Ahh yes... the P38 Walther... Dear ole Dad carried and used this gem during his time in the east... for the duration of that time, regardless of the severity of conditions it never failed him. As he used to say it was the only thing as reliable as his shovel. A great presentation... thankyou.
Remove the stupid mag safety and the trigger is fantastic; my teenage son used an online article as a guide and my Hi Power now has the best trigger out of all of my guns.
That is solely due to overly technical laws. It's a way to get close to one of the most useful close range weapons designed, a sub machine gun, without jumping through federal government paperwork, registries, and waiting periods.
If I had to carry one into a crappy situation like WW2 it would definitely be the hi power based on capacity alone! Thanks for the videos! Been watching since around 2012, and this is one of very few channels that is still all killer and no filler. Keep it up!
My top 5: 1) FN GP35 - Browning Hi Power: double stack 13! round capacity 9x19mm parabellum, duh! (ahead of it's time) 2) Walther P38 - Good design and reliable, great SA/DA action for locked and loaded carry , only 8 rounds (good capacity in 1940) 3) Colt M1911A1 - Great handgun, only 7 rounds but potent because .45 ACP 4) Tokarev TT-33, only 7 rounds but very fast and hard hitting 7.62x25mm, indestructible! 5) Radom Vis 35 - Excellent handgun, 8 rounds single stack 9x19 parabellum
I'm a Canadian soldier and I still use a Browning Hi Power. Many of ours still have the cut out on the pistol grip for the butt. Very reliable. Only thing I don't like is can't carry with a round in the spout. During Afghanistan we had war stock from ww2 pulled for issue. New Browning's in packing grease for 70 yrs!
I was a general machinist/set-up man at Canadian Arsenals - Longbranch in the mid 60's and we were still making those things by the thousands. I don't recall any of those having the butt notch for a stock, or the elev. adjustable rear sight.
"The Luger was not outdated, it was just too expensive to produce" So in other words it was outdated. "The Luger actually did very well in 'in range tv' mud tests" interesting but not a metric to base a guns combat relevance on
I have absolutely no trigger time on either the luger or p38. I understand the luger has outstanding mechanical accuracy and the craftsmanship is very high. But neither of these things matter in a fighting pistol. As I understand the preference for the luger is due to it's pedigree and not it's actual effectiveness. My understanding is they due tend to be a bit more finicky which is partially due to the design and partially due to the manufacturing process.
All nice guns. Clearly 1911 is the winner. ( a lot of people seem to quote 1985 as the adoption date of m9 and 16a2 but but I left the 1/39th FA bde in 1989 we still had 1911s and M16A1s ). Hey man I want to cringe every time I see your poor jeep. Show that jku some love and get lift kit and steel bumper for it at least. Those wet spots under it are not leaks they're tears!
About the P08 Luger being unreliable, Karl and Ian over at the InRange channel did a mud test on it and it passed flawlessly. It even outperformed the 1911 deemed the pinnacle of reliability for that time. Great video and keep up the good work!
Meanwhile just getting them to pass the air test (I own several) can be quite challenging. Their mud tests, just like my Gauntlet tests, are more driven by luck and circumstance than scientific testing. The AR15 bested the AK in their testing too, as a matter of fact I believe so far it's the most reliable rifle ever tested. It's for fun, not for people to live or die by when choosing a handgun. If you ever own a Luger, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
That is true. I believe that his P08 was a later commercial production and maybe hasn't been that much used, as a wartime production Luger and I think that he said, that he replaced the spring in the magazine and that made his gun reliable again. I know that this test are not scientific and are more for fun rather than providing usable scientific data. And the guns in your Top 5 list are more of a novelty item, to go on a range shoot a few shoots, not for self defense. Where I live, I doubt that I will ever own a Luger. :)
A modern production P08 (with no hand-fitting) would probably be monumentally reliable. Now someone just needs to make one with ambi controls and a double stack mag.
Military Arms Channel I think it's pretty scientific. Mud and dirt exposes design flaws and potential ingress points. Is it fun to watch? Sure. Should it just be brushed aside as nothing to go by? Not so sure.
The Hi-Power gets my vote. It has proven to be reliable (though most of those pistols are very reliable), has the best ergonomics of the list, and aesthetically is a close second to the Luger
I've said before anyone who thinks the 1911 is the greatest pistol ever produced hasn't used a Hi-Power. Of course I usually follow that by saying anyone who thinks the Hi-Power is the greatest pistol ever produced hasn't used a CZ-75. That said, if I were going into combat with a pistol in WWII and my pleas to be issued virtually any long gun were ignored, the Hi-Power would probably be my choice.
It's funny... I love 1911s, and dislike Hi Powers... but out of the 5, if I were in Europe in 1944.... the Hi Power would be my go to piece, and probably a toss up between the Viz35 and P38 for number 2.
That's not quite correct. The future adoption of the Kalashnikov relegated the pistol to be a handy, light self-defense weapon. The TT was unsuited for such a role, as it was bulky & heavy. Also, the TTs lacked safety & mags were deemed to be too easy to lose. 9x18mm Makarov was selected as the cartridge to replace 7.62x25mm Tokarev because the lower pressure of the cartridge allowed practical straight blowback whilst having good stopping power & low recoil.
@@josharpe5802 I'd say the TT isn't that wife to begin with, it's overall a very small profile pistol given its design. The biggest killer on it is the lack of a good safety
Actually joe sharpe is more correct than anyone. But Aaron is partly right too. Fact is there were several reasons they switched to the makarov design. And many people will tell you that its flavor of the week vibe and simplicity of design was huge in the decision making to replace the tt design. Weight and ease of field repair due to simplicity of parts was a huge reason for the switch. So there were several reasons why they switched.
I own a US Property Remington Rand 1911 (circa 1943) & earlier today, I purchased a Walther P38 (circa 1943). My favorite is the 1911 because I carried one on active duty in the 80s. Great episode as always, thanx Tim & the MAC team.
I too had a 1911 issued to me. Our command didn't like the Beretta, so we continued to carry 1911's. Our Colonel was a Vietnam Vet who had an affinity for the 1911. :) The truth is, Marines clung to the 1911 for a very long time, even after 1985 and the official adoption of the M9.
I was an active duty Marine from 1983 to 1992 and remember when the M9 replaced the M1911A1. While I am not a fan of the M882 9MM ball round, the M9 pistol was far more reliable than the M1911A1. During pistol re-qual details you could not run a single relay with the M1911A1 without an alibi because they malfunctioned so much. The M9's when used with the OEM magazines ran great and they were far more accurate. The only M1911A1's that I saw that ran relatively well there the MEUSOC .45's used by Recon. And they were maintenance intensive. The 2112 at Stone Bay was always working on them, tweaking feed lips on Wilson Rogers mag's, or working on the triggers, hammers, sears, or safety's. The ultimate irony is that when MarSOC / Marine Raiders got their new Colt M45's they only used them about 3 years and punted them in favor of the Glock 19.
Respectfully Todd, you do not have a Remington-Rand 1911. Your pistol is an M1911A1. There are serious differences; it's not simply cosmetic. For instance the M1911A1 has a hardened breehface plug. The Model of 1911 does not.
It's certainly a treat to see these classics brought out for us to see! You can tell that their value is certainly not lost on you. I appreciate you bringing out these timeless pieces for our viewing pleasure!
Thank you. I do treat them with reverence as they represent important history. If we don't embrace history and learn from it, we're doomed to repeat it.
I have all of these guns and I would choose the p38 any day! so user-friendly and the greatest to use fast. I also like the high-power almost as much, but the single action only part is a little bit of a buzz-kill (have to admit, the 8 round mag is a little small although very nice and compact on the p38 but I personally love heel releases, I seem to be one of the few that do).
out of the 6 shown, I have fired 4 of them. For my hands the P-38 is the most instinctive weapon to shoot and accurate. love all 5 of the weapons in the top five list.
Aaaaand, The Yankee Marshall cries because the Enfield No 4 MK 2 or Webley MK IV isn't on the list because, revolvers. Personally, I would rate the Hi-Power as the best as it is the closest to a modern gun as you can get. The rest are close to a four way tie for 2nd.
Milsurp Mike I have been told from officers that the Hi-power had some issues, they have seen it firer from troops stomping their feet. And they didn't like the 9mm. I have never heard about that issue before, so I donno if it's a myth or is in fact true.
I will always go with the Browning Hi-Power. I have owned two, and it saved my life many times. It is utterly dependable and the firepower is tremendous. It is much more accurate than the Glock 17.
I really enjoyed this video. I love the WWII era firearms and the quality of those hand guns! You have quite the collection! Please do another with rifles!
Awesome. Thoroughly enjoy learning about early firearms. That Hi Power is sweet!! I have to say..seeing the 7.62x25 toss some fireballs down range made me chuckle lol. Nice collection Tim, I'm hard pressed to choose just one!
My great-great-grandfather during World War I was a long-time worker at Remington-Rand, according to my grandmother, he still remembered the day they had to switch from building typewriters to 1911’s for the war effort. He was proud of doing his part. He was too old to serve, but too young (and too patriotic) go do nothing. The 1911 will always have a special place in my heart. I bought an insanely over-priced premium example of a WWI production Remington-Rand 1911, just because I know for a fact my ancestor handled it before anyone else. Great video as always! Love the old firearms! Firearms are, I think, one of the best ways to experience an era in this day and age. You can learn a lot about a country and time period from the design of their firearms. Love it.
1911 over a hundred years old and still relevant and carried by many for self defense including myself on occasion. Has stood the test of time and modern ammo keep it rocking.
Browning Hi-Power all the way. It was, for it's time, a modern firearm with all the modern features. Some of them ahead of it's time. It's features alone put it well past the 1911. Double stack mag and it's ergonomics give it bonus points from the get-go. It was like enough that it was used on both sides of the war. The 1911, sure, it had it's advantages mainly in it's caliber. But that would be the end of it in terms of what it has over the Hi-Power. But, of course, the 1911 will win the poll because of all the 1911 fanboys out there. ;)
Thanks for breaking open the safe, what a great collection! I've got a couple of these but not w/ the pedigree these have. I like collecting mil-surp stuff. Great piece of history to connect with and shoot. Love the "push" of the 7.62x25, but went w/ the P-38.
Austin what a nice gun to have your Grandfathers, I have a friend who owns a set of three colt’s one 25 cal. One 38 , and a 1911 his grandpas as a Detroit fireman and also has some choice collectible items. I love his 1911 always ask to hold it when I see him
About the TT33... 1. It's pronounced, depending on your accent, Toke-uh-rev, or To-kar-yev. 2. "CCCP" is actually SSSR -- Soyuz Sovietskih Sotsialistiskih Respublic -- Union of Soviet Socialist Republics -- USSR. 7.62x25 is a tragically unappreciated round. it hits for 50% more than 9x19, 25% more than 45ACP, has more range, flies further, penetrates more, beats armor, recoils less, and is very slender. Additionally, the TT design has simplifications and strengthenings over the Browning source, such as locking lugs all the way around, and a unified hammer-sear assembly. Add that to the 8 round magazine, and you see why I think the TT33 is absolutely the best handgun of WW2.
However here's one thing that neither of you actually have addressed even the M57 have an issue with this which is if you're not careful and you have a loaded round in the chamber and you drop your Tokarev it will probably go off unlike the 1911 which Tim did say something about potentially going off if you're carrying it with the hammer down. I had a friend who was adamant about carrying his Tokarev copy made by Norinco and he ended up getting shot on accident due to the fact that even though that model did have a safety and had the safety engaged whenever he dropped it the firearm discharged and hit him in the leg.
7.62x25 has overpen issues when shooting at soft targets, it's why the Soviets went to the 9mm makarov. They re-issued it the TT to the police im the 90s when there was an uprising of gangs using body armor
@Howard Black TT-33 and most of its clones are pretty reliable,especially M57 and quite accurate(thou not in the top).As for shooting himself...well,considering it did not have a safety and was known to discharge when it drops on the tail,it is his lack of knowledge at fault.Such things were rarity in Yugoslavian army and even among todays volunteers for military service in Serbian army that get to practice with it(I actually haven't heard ANYONE getting injured like that in time of service of my superiors.).Also,most of our M57 in military service(that are not forever put into storage or sold out) are pretty warn out and ...aside from needing a bit of time to get used to fire it and todays training is too short and too little resources are put into to actually learn using it.So that and the fact they are worn out give really bad groups,thou seen seniors put some great groupings. As for over penetrating.Soviets realized it in 50s,but for WWII it was good...Back then,you did not care that much for that and they wanted a flat as possible shooter that could go reliable through obstacles.So they put that in front of what we might call stopping power.Yugoslavian army realized this too in the 60s and Zastava made a few designs to change that (M70A and later M88),but was never adopted.
That "thumb safety" on the VIS-35 is actually a latch to assist with disassembly. It was deleted on later versions of the VIS-35 made under German occupation (called the P-35(p), IIRC) because it is nice to have, but not necessary. The VIS-35's hammer serrations are somewhat "hooked" if you look at them closely. The pistol was designed for cavalry use (or, at least, the Polish cavalry had some say in what features it had) and those hammer serrations are designed to "grab" the cloth of a mounted horseman's trousers as the hammer was cocked on the side of his thigh.
I first carried a 1911a1 when I was an Army Medic. When on Artic training we would ski and snow shoe as rank amatuers we would go flying all over the place we called it the crash roll and burn every time my pistol would go flying out of the holster and without the lanyard it would have been long gone.
I have to agree with you... I made a video for the TTC and asked if it made me a damn dirty commie that I enjoyed shooting it more than my vintage 1911.
Today, all of these guns are outdated. Back in the 30s however, they were top notch. I'd pick the 38, since it's the only odd ball here, the rest are mechanically pretty much the same. I do like the TT, however since it's ammo is hotter and also it's actually very lightweight and awesome to handle, which I just find rather surprising when you look at it ....
Tokarevs are not as cheap as they used to be and you are behind the times there on ammo prices. 7.62x54r is easily going for over 50 cents a round these days even the surplus stuff. 7.62x25 isn't dirt cheap anymore either after the surplus dried up.
They are far and away the cheapest pistols available in Canada, and 7.62X25mm is about half the price of 9mm. So yes, they are popular because of the price. If a TT33 commanded the same price as a P38 or High Power, they would only be seen in museums, or specialist "commie gun" theme shoots.
@5:27 “a 1911 in any other caliber, is just not a 1911”. To be really anal about it . I say a 45 that was not built in 1911 is Not! A 1911..... it’s just a 45. however I got your point.
Some really fine vintage auto-shooters Tim has there. My personal favorites are the .45 1911 and the Tok (because I own both) but the Browning Hi-Power is a thing of beauty and high-capacity as well. I would not feel unsafe packing any of these gats.
Great vid, Tim! I voted for the Colt because it reminds me of my dad back in the day when he was station in Germany. I remember watching him clean it etc...then Starsky and Hutch! Hahaha! Feliz Navidad!
Great Post.You have a beautiful collection, thank you for sharing. I've inherited my Father's and Grandfather's Sidearms. These are Remington Rand 1911A1's. Outstanding pistols. They are COMPLETELY intolerant of hollowpoint ammunition! I also have a Luger P-08. I find it performs more reliably when using heavy loads. I'm sure the available ammunition during it's service was not quite as "hot"..
NedYarbNexus I'm as big of a fan of the 1911 as any but there are probably more clones/variants of the hi-power than anything else. The 1911 was mostly found in US ranks only vs the hi-power and its variants pretty well dominated everywhere else. I do think the hi-power would be improved if it had a thumb safety as ergonomic as the 1911, and no mag safety.
Great show Buddy Nice Vis.......😎👍🤝 I seen them going for $ 2000 CDN Dollars all original matching numbers.. By the way TT33 has a Safety on it....... Pulling the hammer 1/4 back Locks the trigger and slide.
Since you ask for opinions , my favorite of what you list . P 38 always has been my fantasy pistol from that time period , always liked double action first shot . No concerns about having to cock before pulling trigger .
7.62 is a great cartridge but is better suited to SMG's. Feeds reliably at a high rate of fire. TT33 is unsafe because of no safety. The Russians build very practical weapons but speed of manufacture during the war was parramount. Notice they got rid of the damn thing shortly after the war.
That's a sweet old 1911. Very nice. Always good to see a video from one of my fellow countrymen (I'm a displaced Valpo native). Love the channel bro. Cool review.
Browning Hi Power hands down. Only pistol manufactured and issued to both sides during WW2. Still to be found on active service even today. I have small hands, hammer bite has never been a problem for me. Almost near perfect ergonomics for me. You would be well armed with any of the pistols regardless of your personal preference.
Tokarev. Decent gun, awesome cartridge. 1930 designed cartridge that's very similar to modern .357 Sig in performance and uber reliable feeding bottleneck design. I'd rather go to war with 7.62x25mm than 9mm or .45 acp.
Agree. Lot of people complain about the lack of safeties, but the half cock safety is just enough if one use the gun properly. It's a matter of training. Very reliable gun, quite light, small, and a very powerful cartridge, the only one that can deal with some body armor. And some steel helmets.
If only the P-35 high Power had a grip safety and tang like the Colt 1911 it would be my favorite 9MM . I had several over the years and even carried one as a winter time off duty gun until our PD's insurance said we could not carry any single action weapons to include Glocks. We ended up with the SIG-P-220 in 1987 and they are still used by that PD today. My vote is of course the Colt 1911. Enjoy you videos thanks.
Great video, great collection. P38 is the best gun reviewed. Don't get me wrong, I love the 1911. This is what I would want carry in ww2, and I would carry it in condition 2, for both readiness and safety.
From my competition days, even though my heart favoured the 1911 .45, mine was not reliable enough for rapid fire & instinctive position. Of the Browning & 380 Automatic, it was equal - both jammed regularly on rapid fire with the 9mm always seeming to suffer underpower to operate the blowback/feed. For rapid fire instinctive position, I once shot an Olympic standard 590 out of a possible maximum of 660, using a speedloader and full wadcutters at the instinctive position. That's 12 rounds in eight seconds, so empty reload & empty again. All 12 were in the centre bull at 25 yards. The weapon ? Colt Trooper .357. You can't run the risk of a jam in close combat (or competition service pistol), the old 6 shooter revolver came up a winner every time and trounced my Smith & Wesson Combat Magnum.357 every time - deadly accurate.
P38 is my fav hands down, have to say the most practical however would be the hi point with being chambered in 9mm and also the magazine capacity of the weapon. And yes the stock is completely useless on a handgun during this era.
I have the TT33 , my grandfather gave it to my father and now we use it together Its far from perfect but it works I have the Zastava Tokarev 9mm which is very similar For me the sights suck, low capacity, heavy, big, ugly, not so easy to disassemble, cleaning takes time, pretty big recoil, i dont like the grip BUT it simply works all the time even without cleaning it btw i dont shoot it too much but the only time i had any trouble wit the gun was when using cheap ammo It has been our family carry gun for 3 generations and i hope many more to come & yeah LOVE your channel
I love my 1935 TT30 it fits the hand so nicely with its slim grip, but the slide serrations are very smooth and rounded which makes it slip when your hands are wet or sweaty. I also love my Hi power because it fits the hand so well. I find my 1911 a bit of a chunk to hold but then it's a 1980s version and not as sleek as an earlyA1 which I have yet to add to my collection. But I would still vote for my Webley MKIV if I could because it's so much fun to shoot.
Had to pick the Hi Power. My grandfather, who went in D day and made it into Germany and was taken out of action I believe late February, had very specifically said the Hi Power was his favorite. He told a story of having some down time with another group of infantry. They were behind a church target practicing on the carved figurines around the church. Another soldier had the Hi Power, it was the first time my Paw Paw had come across one (we were all raised to hold browning designs in hi regard starting the Winchester model 12's we all learned to hunt with). Well behind the church he and the other soldier were trying to pick out a target for him to shoot, the stone carved figurines were pretty beat down by this point. The soldier suggested the church tower's bell as an acceptable target and Paw Paw as a young man agreed. The way he told the story of how the bell rang out with each shot just seared it in my memory. "BONNGGG!!!" My dad asked him what happened afterwards and if he dented the bell. As Paw Paw put it, once they realized that the ringing bell would draw attention, possibly officers attention they left and as far as he knew the dents were still in the bell to this day.
The .45 ACP is a great round IF you have the time and ammo to practice with it and get used to it. But soldiers do not get the time or ammo to practice with pistols and get used to the .45, and that reduces their value as a military weapon as very few soldiers will have full competence. 9mm weapons are easier to learn to shoot competently and this is the basic reason that 9mm is the NATO standard. Remember, pistols are things to be waived at POWs and as self defence for officers. You don’t want to or really need to be using a pistol in the front line. Even truck drivers and artillerymen got the .30 carbine.
Browning High power is definitely my favorite ww2 pistol👌🏻 I shot the clone model which was a Hungarian FEG clone P9M and only had 10 round mag🔫 but still fun to shoot and train people on handguns👍🏻
My favorite is the Tokarev - I have a 1947 all-original (except the spring and guide rod) without importation marks. Just had it fully serviced. INCREDIBLE firing gun.
As far as double-stack magazines are concerned the Savage 1907 was the first! The Savage 1907 did not have any screws in it! It was held together by snap-fitting parts. Double stack mag and a Buck Rogers Futuristic look to it with no screws anywhere in the gun. And the 1911 is the best and my favorite handgun of all time.
I've owned two (P-35 & 1911) still own two of one (the 1911) and fired three (four counting the P-08). I love the 1911 but for a service piece I'd have to go with the Hi-Power. IMO the capacity and accuracy OF STOCK PISTOLS is there for that one. I disabled the magazine cut-off on mine by removing one spring. BUT, for civilian concealed carry the 1911 (especially Officer's Model) is my choice. Or Grandpa's WWI era 1911 that I keep in my nightstand. Rattles when you shake it but goes off every time and hits hard where two shots are called for.
Two of the men I worked with in the revolver years of police work carried the browning high power. The problem was with the 9mm. The hollow points of the day were little more than fmj with a hole drilled in them. They were notorious for shake off. The .357 was a man stopper. But over the years bullet design improved and nine mm (while not .357 or .45) are not horrible anymore. The high power was ass kicking accurate and the best grip/point of any auto I ever shot..
P38. It fits my hand, double action. Load indicator. Best safety system. Barrel doesn't tilt. Keeps on target. Hi Power is 2: hi capacity, better magazine release. Just feels better than any WWII Browning tilting barrel
All fine weapons ! The Radom vis 35 had a few more features. The designers at Radon "borrowed" features from the 1911,Hi power,and added a few of their own. The vis 35 was designed to be a sidearm for Poland's most elite unit the cavalry. The vis 35 was very strong ,and capable of using the most powerful 9mm. ammo without harm .(sub machine gun ammo) The Germans were impressed enough to use the vis 35 in their own military.
Seriously NICE collection!! I Want all of them, but the 1911 is their grandpap so it is the one! I Would choose 1911, Hi-power, T33, Walther P38 then the Luger.
The Browning HP was the Favorite handgun of The British SAS into the 1980s. Quite an endorsement. Also FBI HRT used Wayne Novak enhanced Hi-Powers These were spectacular, they had a Beaver tail so no hammer Bite, larger thumb safeties, no magazine safety, Novak night sights and a trigger job. At the time a civilian version was $3000 plus your Hi-power! But the 1911 design is still used by Marine Marauders, LAPD SWAT. Amazing for something designed in 1911! The Marines went to just the Glock 19 for special operation units this year. previously MEUSOC and Raiders were issued Glock 19 and Colt M45A1 side by side. Colt exchanged some M45A1s because the cerakote finish didn't hold up to the extreme use by the Marines. These were replaced by M45A1s with an Ion bond finish. Regular marine are issued M9A1s.
@@CPHannigan I wonder if individual Raiders will be given the option to continue to use their new Colts for open carry as some prefer the .45 fmj to the 9 mm FMJ and use the Glock for CCW. USMC has not answered follow up questions by Military.com I don't know any active duty members of MARSOC. What about MEUSOC?
STEVE R Far as I know, all the new Colt M45A1 CQBPs were returned to Colt and sold off due to wear issues. Not sure about MEU(SOC) to be honest. They were passed up by SOCOM in favor of forming MARSOC, so MARSOC has some more funding available for equipment upgrades. I’m sure there are still a few old MEU(SOC) 1911s floating around, but their frames are old as hell by now. 1945 production to be exact. I’d bet most MEU guys are still carrying M9A1s and a few Glocks by now. The 1911 has pretty much died off in SOF now that a younger generation has taken over.
@@CPHannigan Colt exchanged a few M45A1 pistols because the Cerakote finish didn't hold up to the extreme use by the Marines. They were exchanged for new versions with an Ion bond finish. Then Colt put an x through Marine with a lazer on the returned exchange M45A1s So Colt sold less than a 1000 of these returned pistols to the public. On auction sites these sold from $4000 on up! Ion bond Colts remain in Marines inventory. Don't know if more will be replaced and sold by Colt. Per research the M45A1 were issued along with Glocks until last year. Now for 'Logistics reasons' only the Glocks are issued. If I was not working in plain clothes, I would prefer to use the new Ion bond M45A1 in combat.
1' the 1911' , 2' the p-35' 9:mm Browning , 3' the p-38' Walter , 4' the Walter ppk , 5'- the C'96 Mauser machine pistol , ( although the C'96 pre-dates WW-2' it has seen a lot of work )
Ahh yes... the P38 Walther... Dear ole Dad carried and used this gem during his time in the east... for the duration of that time, regardless of the severity of conditions it never failed him. As he used to say it was the only thing as reliable as his shovel. A great presentation... thankyou.
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I have to say the browning hi power in my opinion was the most modern pistol on the battlefield. Double stack mag extremely reliable and accurate
Yep
@GastonGross like a lot of weapons of the time you had to take it to a gunsmith remove the safety and polish trigger
Remove the stupid mag safety and the trigger is fantastic; my teenage son used an online article as a guide and my Hi Power now has the best trigger out of all of my guns.
Still viable and beautiful.
the bhp It was used by a lot nations far after the war
WW2- The idea of a stock that goes on a handgun was dying out.
2020- People love the idea of putting a stock on their handgun.
That is solely due to overly technical laws. It's a way to get close to one of the most useful close range weapons designed, a sub machine gun, without jumping through federal government paperwork, registries, and waiting periods.
@@CantoniaCustoms And for the average person, a stocked pistol in an urban environment is more useful than a rifle.
It's not a stock, it's an ARM BRACE. And if you don't believe me, just ask the ATF :D
Ha ha ha ... so true!
The P38 was used by the Germans up until ‘04. That’s one badass pistol.
It was nick-named "8 missed shots and one disgusted throw" by the German soldiers.
not reliable in the field, more of a staff officers sidearm
The 1911 is still used by a select few groups in the US military to this day
And the PP in Pa-63 form is still used by hungarian police
It is not CCCP, it is written in Kyrilik alphbet - SSSR. Souz of Soviet Socialist Republics. What retard came out with this idiotic - See See See Pee
Browning Hi power. I used this as my main side arm 1979-1986. Great gun.
If I had to carry one into a crappy situation like WW2 it would definitely be the hi power based on capacity alone! Thanks for the videos! Been watching since around 2012, and this is one of very few channels that is still all killer and no filler. Keep it up!
Thank you, Garrett.
My top 5:
1) FN GP35 - Browning Hi Power: double stack 13! round capacity 9x19mm parabellum, duh! (ahead of it's time)
2) Walther P38 - Good design and reliable, great SA/DA action for locked and loaded carry , only 8 rounds (good capacity in 1940)
3) Colt M1911A1 - Great handgun, only 7 rounds but potent because .45 ACP
4) Tokarev TT-33, only 7 rounds but very fast and hard hitting 7.62x25mm, indestructible!
5) Radom Vis 35 - Excellent handgun, 8 rounds single stack 9x19 parabellum
I'm a Canadian soldier and I still use a Browning Hi Power. Many of ours still have the cut out on the pistol grip for the butt. Very reliable. Only thing I don't like is can't carry with a round in the spout. During Afghanistan we had war stock from ww2 pulled for issue. New Browning's in packing grease for 70 yrs!
Marc Lundrigan why can’t you carry the high power condition 1?
@@ryanmuro single action and safety isn't reliable on the ol pistols.
I thought they were out of production
@@NoName-yy4gc he said they new in grease 70 year old pistols.
I was a general machinist/set-up man at Canadian Arsenals - Longbranch in the mid 60's and we were still making those things by the thousands. I don't recall any of those having the butt notch for a stock, or the elev. adjustable rear sight.
That Polish VIS 35 looks damn good. I’d like to have one. Really nice collection👏🏼
Always ....ALWAYS a pleasure to have someone show you their collection, thank you.
The Luger was not outdated, it was just too expensive to produce. The Luger actually did very well in 'in range tv' mud tests.
"The Luger was not outdated, it was just too expensive to produce"
So in other words it was outdated.
"The Luger actually did very well in 'in range tv' mud tests" interesting but not a metric to base a guns combat relevance on
footbalr074 technology wise, it was not outdated, and it was very reliable.
I have absolutely no trigger time on either the luger or p38.
I understand the luger has outstanding mechanical accuracy and the craftsmanship is very high.
But neither of these things matter in a fighting pistol. As I understand the preference for the luger is due to it's pedigree and not it's actual effectiveness. My understanding is they due tend to be a bit more finicky which is partially due to the design and partially due to the manufacturing process.
All nice guns. Clearly 1911 is the winner. ( a lot of people seem to quote 1985 as the adoption date of m9 and 16a2 but but I left the 1/39th FA bde in 1989 we still had 1911s and M16A1s ).
Hey man I want to cringe every time I see your poor jeep. Show that jku some love and get lift kit and steel bumper for it at least. Those wet spots under it are not leaks they're tears!
It has rather less than perfect safety features. Many, many allied soldiers shot themselves with souvenir Lugers just be dropping them.
About the P08 Luger being unreliable, Karl and Ian over at the InRange channel did a mud test on it and it passed flawlessly. It even outperformed the 1911 deemed the pinnacle of reliability for that time. Great video and keep up the good work!
Meanwhile just getting them to pass the air test (I own several) can be quite challenging. Their mud tests, just like my Gauntlet tests, are more driven by luck and circumstance than scientific testing. The AR15 bested the AK in their testing too, as a matter of fact I believe so far it's the most reliable rifle ever tested. It's for fun, not for people to live or die by when choosing a handgun. If you ever own a Luger, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
That is true. I believe that his P08 was a later commercial production and maybe hasn't been that much used, as a wartime production Luger and I think that he said, that he replaced the spring in the magazine and that made his gun reliable again. I know that this test are not scientific and are more for fun rather than providing usable scientific data. And the guns in your Top 5 list are more of a novelty item, to go on a range shoot a few shoots, not for self defense. Where I live, I doubt that I will ever own a Luger. :)
Alot of the time the reliability issues with the po8 lugers stem from weakened springs and underpowered ammo
A modern production P08 (with no hand-fitting) would probably be monumentally reliable. Now someone just needs to make one with ambi controls and a double stack mag.
Military Arms Channel I think it's pretty scientific. Mud and dirt exposes design flaws and potential ingress points. Is it fun to watch? Sure. Should it just be brushed aside as nothing to go by? Not so sure.
The Hi-Power gets my vote. It has proven to be reliable (though most of those pistols are very reliable), has the best ergonomics of the list, and aesthetically is a close second to the Luger
sturmgewehrr you don't get an opinion. You don't have any sandbox habits
Daniel Simmons fuck man you got me there
I've said before anyone who thinks the 1911 is the greatest pistol ever produced hasn't used a Hi-Power. Of course I usually follow that by saying anyone who thinks the Hi-Power is the greatest pistol ever produced hasn't used a CZ-75. That said, if I were going into combat with a pistol in WWII and my pleas to be issued virtually any long gun were ignored, the Hi-Power would probably be my choice.
sturmgewehrr yeah, but I fucking hate the idea of a magazine safety
It's funny... I love 1911s, and dislike Hi Powers... but out of the 5, if I were in Europe in 1944.... the Hi Power would be my go to piece, and probably a toss up between the Viz35 and P38 for number 2.
Quick tokarev fact: the makarov was made to replace the tokarev because the tokarev had too much power and they were concerned on overpenetration
Colt 1911
I didn't know that. Thank you.
That's not quite correct. The future adoption of the Kalashnikov relegated the pistol to be a handy, light self-defense weapon. The TT was unsuited for such a role, as it was bulky & heavy. Also, the TTs lacked safety & mags were deemed to be too easy to lose. 9x18mm Makarov was selected as the cartridge to replace 7.62x25mm Tokarev because the lower pressure of the cartridge allowed practical straight blowback whilst having good stopping power & low recoil.
@@josharpe5802 I'd say the TT isn't that wife to begin with, it's overall a very small profile pistol given its design. The biggest killer on it is the lack of a good safety
Actually joe sharpe is more correct than anyone. But Aaron is partly right too. Fact is there were several reasons they switched to the makarov design. And many people will tell you that its flavor of the week vibe and simplicity of design was huge in the decision making to replace the tt design. Weight and ease of field repair due to simplicity of parts was a huge reason for the switch. So there were several reasons why they switched.
The luger is actually really reliable. It was just expensive, thats why they replaced it.
Battlefield Junky Yes,you are right
Yes the Luger was on top of the list for bring backs. I know it would be on my list. But the 1911 is great.
I love it 💕 .
Yeah but it's fugly
@@josephjones1121 The luger is gorgeous
7.62x25
Personally, I had to vote for the Walther. Though it was a tough call between that and the 1911. Btw, that's a hell of a collection Tim. Very nice!
I own a US Property Remington Rand 1911 (circa 1943) &
earlier today, I purchased a Walther P38 (circa 1943). My favorite is the 1911
because I carried one on active duty in the 80s. Great episode as always, thanx
Tim & the MAC team.
I too had a 1911 issued to me. Our command didn't like the Beretta, so we continued to carry 1911's. Our Colonel was a Vietnam Vet who had an affinity for the 1911. :) The truth is, Marines clung to the 1911 for a very long time, even after 1985 and the official adoption of the M9.
I was an active duty Marine from 1983 to 1992 and remember when the M9 replaced the M1911A1. While I am not a fan of the M882 9MM ball round, the M9 pistol was far more reliable than the M1911A1. During pistol re-qual details you could not run a single relay with the M1911A1 without an alibi because they malfunctioned so much. The M9's when used with the OEM magazines ran great and they were far more accurate. The only M1911A1's that I saw that ran relatively well there the MEUSOC .45's used by Recon. And they were maintenance intensive. The 2112 at Stone Bay was always working on them, tweaking feed lips on Wilson Rogers mag's, or working on the triggers, hammers, sears, or safety's. The ultimate irony is that when MarSOC / Marine Raiders got their new Colt M45's they only used them about 3 years and punted them in favor of the Glock 19.
Respectfully Todd, you do not have a Remington-Rand 1911. Your pistol is an M1911A1. There are serious differences; it's not simply cosmetic. For instance the M1911A1 has a hardened breehface plug. The Model of 1911 does not.
@@Militaryarmschannel marine so never adopted 9mm until the sig
It's certainly a treat to see these classics brought out for us to see! You can tell that their value is certainly not lost on you. I appreciate you bringing out these timeless pieces for our viewing pleasure!
Thank you. I do treat them with reverence as they represent important history. If we don't embrace history and learn from it, we're doomed to repeat it.
That 1911 is a wonderful collector's item.
Or a fully operating firearm.
That was a cool history to go with it.
I have all of these guns and I would choose the p38 any day! so user-friendly and the greatest to use fast. I also like the high-power almost as much, but the single action only part is a little bit of a buzz-kill (have to admit, the 8 round mag is a little small although very nice and compact on the p38 but I personally love heel releases, I seem to be one of the few that do).
out of the 6 shown, I have fired 4 of them. For my hands the P-38 is the most instinctive weapon to shoot and accurate. love all 5 of the weapons in the top five list.
I would have loved to see a Walther ppk in there somewhere!
@@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104 PPK wasn't around in WW2 lol
I agree though, P38 has a very comfortable grip, and is extremely easy to operate
Yes it was, but it was the nazi police that used it.
@@MemestiffGaming The PPK was introduced in 1930. Google is your friend.
That TT33 was spitting some fireballs!
Aaaaand, The Yankee Marshall cries because the Enfield No 4 MK 2 or Webley MK IV isn't on the list because, revolvers. Personally, I would rate the Hi-Power as the best as it is the closest to a modern gun as you can get. The rest are close to a four way tie for 2nd.
Muh 1911
Milsurp Mike I
Milsurp Mike I have been told from officers that the Hi-power had some issues, they have seen it firer from troops stomping their feet.
And they didn't like the 9mm.
I have never heard about that issue before, so I donno if it's a myth or is in fact true.
What year did the hi-power come out?
1935 I believe.
I will always go with the Browning Hi-Power. I have owned two, and it saved my life many times. It is utterly dependable and the firepower is tremendous. It is much more accurate than the Glock 17.
2 1911 clones, a 1911, the next evolution of the 1911, and a p38
Gotta love John browning haha
The TT-33 is hardly a 1911-clone. Iirc it's more like a 198 or 1903
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I like my m57 lol
Browning was an the OG GOAT
Simply the greatest
As a matter of fact, we Vietnamese still produce new TT-33s (or new spare parts) for our soldiers and cops, but in smaller numbers than the Makarov
I really enjoyed this video. I love the WWII era firearms and the quality of those hand guns! You have quite the collection! Please do another with rifles!
Awesome. Thoroughly enjoy learning about early firearms. That Hi Power is sweet!!
I have to say..seeing the 7.62x25 toss some fireballs down range made me chuckle lol.
Nice collection Tim, I'm hard pressed to choose just one!
My great-great-grandfather during World War I was a long-time worker at Remington-Rand, according to my grandmother, he still remembered the day they had to switch from building typewriters to 1911’s for the war effort. He was proud of doing his part. He was too old to serve, but too young (and too patriotic) go do nothing. The 1911 will always have a special place in my heart. I bought an insanely over-priced premium example of a WWI production Remington-Rand 1911, just because I know for a fact my ancestor handled it before anyone else. Great video as always! Love the old firearms! Firearms are, I think, one of the best ways to experience an era in this day and age. You can learn a lot about a country and time period from the design of their firearms. Love it.
1911 over a hundred years old and still relevant and carried by many for self defense including myself on occasion.
Has stood the test of time and modern ammo keep it rocking.
Radom VIS 35
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Na Zdarov'e!
Random VIS is a great gun.
Nothing will beat the 1911 best semi auto ever made You could also use the 45 cap round for the Thomson
ACP
Browning Hi-Power all the way.
It was, for it's time, a modern firearm with all the modern features. Some of them ahead of it's time. It's features alone put it well past the 1911. Double stack mag and it's ergonomics give it bonus points from the get-go. It was like enough that it was used on both sides of the war.
The 1911, sure, it had it's advantages mainly in it's caliber. But that would be the end of it in terms of what it has over the Hi-Power. But, of course, the 1911 will win the poll because of all the 1911 fanboys out there. ;)
Thanks for breaking open the safe, what a great collection! I've got a couple of these but not w/ the pedigree these have. I like collecting mil-surp stuff. Great piece of history to connect with and shoot. Love the "push" of the 7.62x25, but went w/ the P-38.
Hard to choose, fired many different models, but have to go with the 1911 Colt. I'm just partial to it.
Hi power SAS weapon of choice up to the late 90's before switching over to the SIG sauer
1911. i have my grandfathers colt (1913) and Ithaca (1943) 1911 that he used in WWII. Beautiful pistols with lots of history.
You have an original wartime Ithaca 1911 with family battlefield provenance? My friend, that is a rare bird indeed. Never, ever let that bad boy go.
Austin what a nice gun to have your Grandfathers, I have a friend who owns a set of three colt’s one 25 cal. One 38 , and a 1911 his grandpas as a Detroit fireman and also has some choice collectible items. I love his 1911 always ask to hold it when I see him
Jun Bu ew a 38
Austin Monteverde only 7 rounds
Nice !!
About the TT33...
1. It's pronounced, depending on your accent, Toke-uh-rev, or To-kar-yev.
2. "CCCP" is actually SSSR -- Soyuz Sovietskih Sotsialistiskih Respublic -- Union of Soviet Socialist Republics -- USSR.
7.62x25 is a tragically unappreciated round. it hits for 50% more than 9x19, 25% more than 45ACP, has more range, flies further, penetrates more, beats armor, recoils less, and is very slender. Additionally, the TT design has simplifications and strengthenings over the Browning source, such as locking lugs all the way around, and a unified hammer-sear assembly. Add that to the 8 round magazine, and you see why I think the TT33 is absolutely the best handgun of WW2.
Beat me to the explanation of the "CCCP" part ;)
However here's one thing that neither of you actually have addressed even the M57 have an issue with this which is if you're not careful and you have a loaded round in the chamber and you drop your Tokarev it will probably go off unlike the 1911 which Tim did say something about potentially going off if you're carrying it with the hammer down. I had a friend who was adamant about carrying his Tokarev copy made by Norinco and he ended up getting shot on accident due to the fact that even though that model did have a safety and had the safety engaged whenever he dropped it the firearm discharged and hit him in the leg.
I heard they blow up in your hand😂
7.62x25 has overpen issues when shooting at soft targets, it's why the Soviets went to the 9mm makarov.
They re-issued it the TT to the police im the 90s when there was an uprising of gangs using body armor
@Howard Black TT-33 and most of its clones are pretty reliable,especially M57 and quite accurate(thou not in the top).As for shooting himself...well,considering it did not have a safety and was known to discharge when it drops on the tail,it is his lack of knowledge at fault.Such things were rarity in Yugoslavian army and even among todays volunteers for military service in Serbian army that get to practice with it(I actually haven't heard ANYONE getting injured like that in time of service of my superiors.).Also,most of our M57 in military service(that are not forever put into storage or sold out) are pretty warn out and ...aside from needing a bit of time to get used to fire it and todays training is too short and too little resources are put into to actually learn using it.So that and the fact they are worn out give really bad groups,thou seen seniors put some great groupings.
As for over penetrating.Soviets realized it in 50s,but for WWII it was good...Back then,you did not care that much for that and they wanted a flat as possible shooter that could go reliable through obstacles.So they put that in front of what we might call stopping power.Yugoslavian army realized this too in the 60s and Zastava made a few designs to change that (M70A and later M88),but was never adopted.
That "thumb safety" on the VIS-35 is actually a latch to assist with disassembly. It was deleted on later versions of the VIS-35 made under German occupation (called the P-35(p), IIRC) because it is nice to have, but not necessary.
The VIS-35's hammer serrations are somewhat "hooked" if you look at them closely. The pistol was designed for cavalry use (or, at least, the Polish cavalry had some say in what features it had) and those hammer serrations are designed to "grab" the cloth of a mounted horseman's trousers as the hammer was cocked on the side of his thigh.
I first carried a 1911a1 when I was an Army Medic. When on Artic training we would ski and snow shoe as rank amatuers we would go flying all over the place we called it the crash roll and burn every time my pistol would go flying out of the holster and without the lanyard it would have been long gone.
The TT-33 is the best. Hell, I know a guy who uses it as his EDC.
I am in full agreement with u.
Tokarev is a better than OK pistol- but as an EDC today? Hmmm
The tokarev is a favorite. The Hipower is best.
I have to agree with you... I made a video for the TTC and asked if it made me a damn dirty commie that I enjoyed shooting it more than my vintage 1911.
Tokarev's are only popular because they are inexpensive, and so is the ammo. Just like the Mosin-Nagant
Today, all of these guns are outdated. Back in the 30s however, they were top notch.
I'd pick the 38, since it's the only odd ball here, the rest are mechanically pretty much the same.
I do like the TT, however since it's ammo is hotter and also it's actually very lightweight and awesome to handle, which I just find rather surprising when you look at it ....
Tokarevs are not as cheap as they used to be and you are behind the times there on ammo prices.
7.62x54r is easily going for over 50 cents a round these days even the surplus stuff. 7.62x25 isn't dirt cheap anymore either after the surplus dried up.
They are far and away the cheapest pistols available in Canada, and 7.62X25mm is about half the price of 9mm. So yes, they are popular because of the price. If a TT33 commanded the same price as a P38 or High Power, they would only be seen in museums, or specialist "commie gun" theme shoots.
Probably rather bias on this but hi power all the way, we Brits used them for ages after the war. That 1911 though... So pretty
Bunkyboy 91 us Canadians are still using them lol
Shouldn't you be biased towards the Webley?? I'd take the Webley over the P-38, but the Hi-Power over all of them
Five more rounds counts for a lot.
I remember trapping the web of my left hand with that Hi-Power hammer :-)
@5:27 “a 1911 in any other caliber, is just not a 1911”. To be really anal about it . I say a 45 that was not built in 1911 is Not! A 1911..... it’s just a 45. however I got your point.
Has to be the Hi-power. There still used around the world today, and FN is still making them.
+Tom L FN just announced production was ceasing. 🙁
+Military Arms Channel What? When? Also, still wondering where the 5906 video went.
Military Arms Channel 😲 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Military Arms Channel Fabrique Nationale, making one bad decision at a time...
I mean so is the 1911 if you want to get down to it. And is made by an ungodly number of manufacturers
Excellent job all the way around. Accurate and informative and you have the demeanor that people enjoy.
Love your 1911, you look at home deploying it.
Hi-Power was my service pistol in the early 90’s. Best of the bunch here!
Same 1970's
Peter Foxton Wow, in what were you at?
@@gamestycon2239 British Army in Northern Ireland fortunately never had to use it, only on the ranges.
Some really fine vintage auto-shooters Tim has there. My personal favorites are the .45 1911 and the Tok (because I own both) but the Browning Hi-Power is a thing of beauty and high-capacity as well. I would not feel unsafe packing any of these gats.
Great vid, Tim!
I voted for the Colt because it reminds me of my dad back in the day when he was station in Germany.
I remember watching him clean it etc...then Starsky and Hutch! Hahaha!
Feliz Navidad!
I like the Browning Hi-Power.
I had an old cheapo copy of a Hi Power and it was still a great gun I can't imagine how slick a Browning Belgian would be
Great Post.You have a beautiful collection, thank you for sharing.
I've inherited my Father's and Grandfather's Sidearms. These are Remington Rand 1911A1's. Outstanding pistols. They are COMPLETELY intolerant of hollowpoint ammunition!
I also have a Luger P-08. I find it performs more reliably when using heavy loads. I'm sure the available ammunition during it's service was not quite as "hot"..
Concerning the the Walther P38. The Desert Eagle pistol copied the recoil system from the P-38.
1911 got my dad thru the Pacific gets my vote
Donio Peter loser
@@stantheman2387 Toxic.
大清 gun is garbage
@@stantheman2387 As in the m1911 or guns in general. I'll take anything that I can pop a cap in your ass with.
Got my dad through Korea.
Hi-power. It's the only double stack in the group and truthfully a timeless design that is still in use today.
L. C. And the way the Hi-Power dominated the pistol market makes the Glock reign look unimpressive
i don't see how a clone of the REAL timeless design on that table (m1911) is a timeless design itself.
NedYarbNexus I'm as big of a fan of the 1911 as any but there are probably more clones/variants of the hi-power than anything else. The 1911 was mostly found in US ranks only vs the hi-power and its variants pretty well dominated everywhere else. I do think the hi-power would be improved if it had a thumb safety as ergonomic as the 1911, and no mag safety.
K Bob There are different safeties depending on model etc. Are you speaking of its actual placement? I removed my magazine safety disconnect.
Great show Buddy
Nice Vis.......😎👍🤝
I seen them going for $ 2000 CDN Dollars all original matching numbers..
By the way TT33 has a Safety on it.......
Pulling the hammer 1/4 back
Locks the trigger and slide.
Since you ask for opinions , my favorite of what you list . P 38 always has been my fantasy pistol from that time period , always liked double action first shot . No concerns about having to cock before pulling trigger .
Very informative and great to see such good examples of history.
Thanks Mac!
My favorite is the Tokarev TT33 because I like bottleneck cartridges and Russian guns. Also 7.62x25mm is a great hot rod cartridge.
7.62 is a great cartridge but is better suited to SMG's. Feeds reliably at a high rate of fire. TT33 is unsafe because of no safety. The Russians build very practical weapons but speed of manufacture during the war was parramount. Notice they got rid of the damn thing shortly after the war.
@@frittsm6417 tt 33 has safety...
@@giorgi5988 safety is added for USA regulations. From factory, had no safety. Here in Canada they don't have a safety.
@@martinjansen2479 isn't half-cock factory safety?
madara Half cock is not a manual safety.
Browning HI-power is the first 9mm I ever shot when my uncle introduced me to shooting. It's still one of the most comfortable handguns I've held.
The p38 I had fit perfectly into my Beretta's molded hard case.
That's a sweet old 1911. Very nice.
Always good to see a video from one of my fellow countrymen (I'm a displaced Valpo native). Love the channel bro.
Cool review.
Browning Hi Power hands down. Only pistol manufactured and issued to both sides during WW2. Still to be found on active service even today.
I have small hands, hammer bite has never been a problem for me. Almost near perfect ergonomics for me.
You would be well armed with any of the pistols regardless of your personal preference.
hi power wins. its my favorite pistol i carry a belgian '72 every day
Tokarev. Decent gun, awesome cartridge. 1930 designed cartridge that's very similar to modern .357 Sig in performance and uber reliable feeding bottleneck design. I'd rather go to war with 7.62x25mm than 9mm or .45 acp.
Agree. Lot of people complain about the lack of safeties, but the half cock safety is just enough if one use the gun properly. It's a matter of training. Very reliable gun, quite light, small, and a very powerful cartridge, the only one that can deal with some body armor. And some steel helmets.
It's my carry pistol for a reason.
...plus at very close range it can double as a flame thrower! :)
@@sheniloiu5293 the drop in trigger group is nice too...
If only the P-35 high Power had a grip safety and tang like the Colt 1911 it would be my favorite 9MM . I had several over the years and even carried one as a winter time off duty gun until our PD's insurance said we could not carry any single action weapons to include Glocks. We ended up with the SIG-P-220 in 1987 and they are still used by that PD today. My vote is of course the Colt 1911. Enjoy you videos thanks.
Great video, great collection. P38 is the best gun reviewed. Don't get me wrong, I love the 1911. This is what I would want carry in ww2, and I would carry it in condition 2, for both readiness and safety.
My favorite (and always has been) is the 1911
From my competition days, even though my heart favoured the 1911 .45, mine was not reliable enough for rapid fire & instinctive position. Of the Browning & 380 Automatic, it was equal - both jammed regularly on rapid fire with the 9mm always seeming to suffer underpower to operate the blowback/feed. For rapid fire instinctive position, I once shot an Olympic standard 590 out of a possible maximum of 660, using a speedloader and full wadcutters at the instinctive position. That's 12 rounds in eight seconds, so empty reload & empty again. All 12 were in the centre bull at 25 yards. The weapon ? Colt Trooper .357. You can't run the risk of a jam in close combat (or competition service pistol), the old 6 shooter revolver came up a winner every time and trounced my Smith & Wesson Combat Magnum.357 every time - deadly accurate.
P38 is my fav hands down, have to say the most practical however would be the hi point with being chambered in 9mm and also the magazine capacity of the weapon. And yes the stock is completely useless on a handgun during this era.
The P08 Lugar was one of the only sidearms to 'pass' InRangeTV's mud test.
Tt33. I have one and love it super hot fast round
I have the TT33 , my grandfather gave it to my father and now we use it together
Its far from perfect but it works
I have the Zastava Tokarev 9mm which is very similar
For me the sights suck, low capacity, heavy, big, ugly, not so easy to disassemble, cleaning takes time, pretty big recoil, i dont like the grip BUT it simply works all the time even without cleaning it
btw i dont shoot it too much but the only time i had any trouble wit the gun was when using cheap ammo
It has been our family carry gun for 3 generations and i hope many more to come
& yeah LOVE your channel
I thought forgotten weapons proved the P08 wasnt actually unreliable, it was the springs wearing out on the mags
(Browning p 35 hi power 9mm) the (1911a1 45 apc) and (p08 luger 9mm) p(38 9mm) these are my favorites of w.w.ll
Hi power 4 the Win
I love my 1935 TT30 it fits the hand so nicely with its slim grip, but the slide serrations are very smooth and rounded which makes it slip when your hands are wet or sweaty. I also love my Hi power because it fits the hand so well. I find my 1911 a bit of a chunk to hold but then it's a 1980s version and not as sleek as an earlyA1 which I have yet to add to my collection. But I would still vote for my Webley MKIV if I could because it's so much fun to shoot.
Had to pick the Hi Power. My grandfather, who went in D day and made it into Germany and was taken out of action I believe late February, had very specifically said the Hi Power was his favorite.
He told a story of having some down time with another group of infantry. They were behind a church target practicing on the carved figurines around the church. Another soldier had the Hi Power, it was the first time my Paw Paw had come across one (we were all raised to hold browning designs in hi regard starting the Winchester model 12's we all learned to hunt with). Well behind the church he and the other soldier were trying to pick out a target for him to shoot, the stone carved figurines were pretty beat down by this point. The soldier suggested the church tower's bell as an acceptable target and Paw Paw as a young man agreed. The way he told the story of how the bell rang out with each shot just seared it in my memory. "BONNGGG!!!" My dad asked him what happened afterwards and if he dented the bell. As Paw Paw put it, once they realized that the ringing bell would draw attention, possibly officers attention they left and as far as he knew the dents were still in the bell to this day.
The 1911 is THE #1 handgun that all others are compared to. Great video Tim.
Walther p38 is my favorite
Hi power comes in second
1911 third
Tt33 fourth
Lastly because i know nothing about them; the vis 35.
I would have to rank them the same as well, minus a swap between the viz and the tt33 (still recon the tt33 is great though).
1911. If hollow point ammo existed in WWII I'd of voted for the P-38, but ball ammo makes the .45ACP the winner when my life is on the line.
Interestingly, 9mm and .45 Auto create almost identical wounds in ball loadings.
Hollow points did exist. They were just outlawed for military use.
Gren Moyo Nope. The Hague convention covers hollow point ammunition, which the US never signed. Perfectly legal for US military use.
CPHannigan But all their military ammo is still FMJ.
The .45 ACP is a great round IF you have the time and ammo to practice with it and get used to it. But soldiers do not get the time or ammo to practice with pistols and get used to the .45, and that reduces their value as a military weapon as very few soldiers will have full competence. 9mm weapons are easier to learn to shoot competently and this is the basic reason that 9mm is the NATO standard. Remember, pistols are things to be waived at POWs and as self defence for officers. You don’t want to or really need to be using a pistol in the front line. Even truck drivers and artillerymen got the .30 carbine.
Browning High power is definitely my favorite ww2 pistol👌🏻 I shot the clone model which was a Hungarian FEG clone P9M and only had 10 round mag🔫 but still fun to shoot and train people on handguns👍🏻
My favorite is the Tokarev - I have a 1947 all-original (except the spring and guide rod) without importation marks. Just had it fully serviced. INCREDIBLE firing gun.
That Hi-Power is so ridiculously clean. I can’t get over how perfect it is
so how about top 5 battlerifles of WWII and top five SMG of WWII
I'll be really jealous if he owns 5 WWII SMGs to demonstrate for us.
I’d hate to say it’d be no contest but it wouldn’t be a contest
As far as double-stack magazines are concerned the Savage 1907 was the first! The Savage 1907 did not have any screws in it! It was held together by snap-fitting parts. Double stack mag and a Buck Rogers Futuristic look to it with no screws anywhere in the gun. And the 1911 is the best and my favorite handgun of all time.
The Savage would be on my "buy" list if new ones were made!
I've owned two (P-35 & 1911) still own two of one (the 1911) and fired three (four counting the P-08). I love the 1911 but for a service piece I'd have to go with the Hi-Power. IMO the capacity and accuracy OF STOCK PISTOLS is there for that one. I disabled the magazine cut-off on mine by removing one spring. BUT, for civilian concealed carry the 1911 (especially Officer's Model) is my choice. Or Grandpa's WWI era 1911 that I keep in my nightstand. Rattles when you shake it but goes off every time and hits hard where two shots are called for.
VIS 35 9mm Parabellum is my favorite pistol ever.
Browning Hi Power P-35. Double stack. Good 9mm round. Compact. Everything you need, nothing you don’t :-)
All depends on accuracy. I know the Hornady loads are accurate as you can find out to effective ranges. Just how accurate are the Underwood loads?
As nice as those firearms are I was surprised that you did not have the Enfield and Webley revolvers or the M1917 .45 ACP Revolvers
Shit Patton carried a smith model 27 in .357
Two of the men I worked with in the revolver years of police work carried the browning high power. The problem was with the 9mm. The hollow points of the day were little more than fmj with a hole drilled in them.
They were notorious for shake off. The .357 was a man stopper.
But over the years bullet design improved and nine mm (while not .357 or .45) are not horrible anymore.
The high power was ass kicking accurate and the best grip/point of any auto I ever shot..
P38. It fits my hand, double action. Load indicator. Best safety system. Barrel doesn't tilt. Keeps on target. Hi Power is 2: hi capacity, better magazine release. Just feels better than any WWII Browning tilting barrel
I love your 1911 beautiful you should be very proud of that one
Personally I like the hi point cause it’s Canadian. Idk I’m new to guns
@Undefined Variety Channel why be rude for no reason
BUY FAR LOVE THE 1911 thanks for sharing theses
All fine weapons ! The Radom vis 35 had a few more features. The designers at Radon "borrowed" features from the 1911,Hi power,and added a few of their own. The vis 35 was designed to be a sidearm for Poland's most elite unit the cavalry. The vis 35 was very strong ,and capable of using the most powerful 9mm. ammo without harm .(sub machine gun ammo) The Germans were impressed enough to use the vis 35 in their own military.
Seriously NICE collection!! I Want all of them, but the 1911 is their grandpap so it is the one! I Would choose 1911, Hi-power, T33, Walther P38 then the Luger.
The Browning HP was the Favorite handgun of The British SAS into the 1980s. Quite an endorsement.
Also FBI HRT used Wayne Novak enhanced Hi-Powers These were spectacular, they had a Beaver tail so no hammer Bite, larger thumb safeties, no magazine safety, Novak night sights and a trigger job. At the time a civilian version was $3000 plus your Hi-power!
But the 1911 design is still used by Marine Marauders, LAPD SWAT.
Amazing for something designed in 1911!
The Marines went to just the Glock 19 for special operation units this year.
previously MEUSOC and Raiders were issued Glock 19 and Colt M45A1 side by side.
Colt exchanged some M45A1s because the cerakote finish didn't hold up to the extreme use by the Marines. These were replaced by M45A1s with an Ion bond finish.
Regular marine are issued M9A1s.
Marine MARSOC (Raiders) recently removed all 1911s from inventory and replaced them with Glock 19s.
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I wonder if individual Raiders will be given the option to continue to use their new Colts for open carry as some prefer the .45 fmj to the 9 mm FMJ and use the Glock for CCW.
USMC has not answered follow up questions by Military.com
I don't know any active duty members of MARSOC.
What about MEUSOC?
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Far as I know, all the new Colt M45A1 CQBPs were returned to Colt and sold off due to wear issues. Not sure about MEU(SOC) to be honest. They were passed up by SOCOM in favor of forming MARSOC, so MARSOC has some more funding available for equipment upgrades. I’m sure there are still a few old MEU(SOC) 1911s floating around, but their frames are old as hell by now. 1945 production to be exact. I’d bet most MEU guys are still carrying M9A1s and a few Glocks by now. The 1911 has pretty much died off in SOF now that a younger generation has taken over.
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Colt exchanged a few M45A1 pistols because the Cerakote finish didn't hold up to the extreme use by the Marines.
They were exchanged for new versions with an Ion bond finish.
Then Colt put an x through
Marine with a lazer on the
returned exchange
M45A1s
So Colt sold less than a 1000 of these returned pistols to the public.
On auction sites these sold from $4000 on up!
Ion bond Colts remain in Marines inventory.
Don't know if more will be replaced and sold by Colt.
Per research the M45A1
were issued along with Glocks until last year.
Now for 'Logistics reasons' only the Glocks are issued.
If I was not working in plain clothes, I would prefer to use the new Ion bond M45A1 in combat.
Before watching:
Walther P38
Luger P08
1911
Webley
Anything a person could find
hi which webley?
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I love the P38 that 1911 is something else though
1' the 1911' , 2' the p-35' 9:mm Browning , 3' the p-38' Walter , 4' the Walter ppk , 5'- the C'96 Mauser machine pistol , ( although the C'96 pre-dates WW-2' it has seen a lot of work )