@@yugo4855 So tell him to go rap. Move on, man. If it wasn’t for Joe, Royce & Slaughterhouse, no one would even know who him or Joel were. Instead of being bitter that it ended, use it as a springboard. They want to “Temptations” Slaughterhouse, w/ a rotating roster of rappers under the banner... Do you see the members of D12 pulling this shit cause Em disbanded the group? If you got a problem w/ what Joe did, then you better be consistent...
Joe is my all time favourite rapper, but this is insanity. So it's ok for him to have issues with Shady records, hold the group back for a decade, retire & effectively end Slaughterhouse etc. But it's not ok for Joell & Crooked to rap about it ??? As a Slaughterhouse fan, I'm glad Joell & Crooked are giving us closure. Also - for the people who keep asking if Joe Budden is really my favourite rapper, the answer is yes. I said what I said, you can stop asking now. If you haven't heard enough of his music just say that
No, not only are your “brothers” not sticking up for you, after 10 years & both got their own successful solo careers, you still holding on to the past & being bitter, to the point where you essentially do a diss record? Why didn’t y’all do this shit back in 2018, when it was actually relevant? They putting money & feelings over loyalty & respect. Joe never came out & said anything negative about anyone in Slaughterhouse, and everything he did (while some would disagree) was to try & benefit the group. He had a problem w/ the label, & mismanagement of Slaughterhouse’s direction (and rightfully so, cause that album was trash. Not to mention, Griselda, Boogie & Yellawolf all faced the same issues). So for them to pull this outta nowhere, after so many years looks like they either desperate for money, or “slaughterhouse-negroing” on “others” behalf... BTW: Respect to Royce for balancing both friendships throughout this whole situation. That’s HouseGang for life (word to the 🐖 on 🤚🏾)...
@Boy George For real. From Def Jam to Shady Records to Everyday Struggle to Slaughterhouse to the Podcast with Mal & Rory....Joe has a reputation of falling out with people. At some point you have to hold yourself accountable especially if you're the common denominator
@@Messiah_Black They didn't diss him on that track tho. They simply explained why Slaughterhouse is dead & not coming back despite the fans constantly asking for the return. We'll see how the rest of the project pans out
At the end of the day, JOE, YOU retired and you had discrepancies with Shady Records and you even said that another artist could fill YOUR position. Whether or not Joe was being facetious or serious or not, he said that and Royce said no. I’m still wondering why he took the pull up video doing with Crooked he did, that was strange. You can’t fault Joell and Crook for wanting to KEEP rapping. Joe has a history of self sabotaging and self destructing. They haven’t dropped in 10 YEARS! We as fans were left high and dry on the future of Slaughterhouse. They could’ve been the biggest lyrical group of their time but being Premadonnas and egotisticals fucked the whole thing up!
It was a pivot based on options and opportunities and... work! If we have an avenue to hear your opinion on the situation then he can most definitely share his thoughts on his platform. Joe is one of the best A 🎤 s in the game.
@@brandenapexo604 it does matter actually but regardless of it doesn’t matter, it was a good marketing opportunity then anybody would’ve capitalized off of. Royce said he moved on in a 2018 tweet. If the door was closed then what’s the problem? After like 2012, Royce started working with DJ Premier and kept releasing music, etc. lawyers hopped in the mix and SH isn’t apart of the SH brand. Joe never called to confirm.
Joe got some nerve. This man talked about every personal situation he's ever been in in his music. Even made Slaughtermouse. So now Crook and Joel are doing the same thing and its a issue with him? FOH
Idk, after watching some of that Crooked and Joell shit, it seem like they got together to publicly drag Joe and Slaughterhouse, but mainly Joe... I don't listen to the podcast enough to say Joe never came at them sideways on the platform, but I missed it if he did. And if Joe didn't come at them on his platform before they decided to shit on him, then them 2 niggas is lame.
@@Ahijah not at all, bias and ignorant are not the same thing. What I am is ignorant because I don't follow either side enough know, like you mentioned, but I'm not blindly defending either side knowing they did wrong. All I'm doing is giving an opinion based on what I know. But feel free to fill me in, I'm having a hard time getting the full story.
@@SupremeKai_Omniverse I've only ever heard Joe show love on the podcast, obviously we don't know how the phone calls went behind the scenes, but after seeing the live with Royce, Joe and Joell it definitely looks like this whole thing was meant to exploit, and I'm going off Royce line of questions to Joell because Joe was being emotional and adding fuel to the fire like he always does once shit hits the fan
Joe is in my top 10, but I don't understand why someone that is so adamant about never rapping again is so offended by his former group members moving on. And this long drawn out, talking in circles response is ridiculous. Air your grievance clearly...stop talking around it in hypotheticals.
It's strange how Joe and Royce are catching feelings but they don't wanna get in the booth......Joell and Crooked wanna rap, that's what rappers do. Joe said he retired, Royce said he ain't doing a 3 man show so what are them dudes that wanna rap spose to do?
@@irvinpamana They still could have but this is how they chose to market it bc they knew it'll be a headline, smart choice on their behalf btw. Crook and Joell dont really have dynamic personalities/arent that marketable, neither is royce for that matter. Joe was always the most popular/polarizing one, hence why he was able to transition into a successful podcast career.
@@irvinpamana And burning the merch? Was that to let the fans understand or are you gonna keep it a buck and say it was a publicity stunt because Joell and Crook both know nobody outside the slaughterhouse fanbase is checking for their music and this is probably the last and biggest look they're ever gonna have for rest of their careers? It's not Joe and Royce's problem if they put all their eggs in the slaughterhouse basket and their solo careers never went anywhere. It's their problem that they needed slaughterhouse a hell of a lot more than slaughterhouse needed them. "Royce said he won't do a 3 man show without Joe. Joe says he's retired so how's that supposed to go?" You move on with your life my guy and stop pinning all your hopes onto getting the band back together.
Joe is such a hard guy to agree with.. he always put himself first in every situation.. as soon as someone else does it he feels a way and gets in his feelings..
@@flipinfin what does it matter if it’s his podcast? He said they are doing it at his expense yet they’ve been begging him to rap and he won’t. They didn’t do anything at his expense yet he’s making it about him
Not really dawg, that ship sailed a long time ago. Unfortunately, they never had great chemistry on or off the mic, awkward mix like Carmelo and Amare on the Knicks back in the day
@@1CHOZN7 stans*** and I was a fan of their music personally as a group individually but nah, facts are the facts. They couldn't make a great album or many great songs, their lack of chemistry was apparent on and off the mic, their rap styles didnt mix well. Showed great potential at times during freestyles and some song but they werent a great group. In theory/on paper they were and everyone got hyped from the Eminem signing but nah, completely flopped for a reason and it is what it is
@@killabeezle lol what's your point? His pod is trash. His character is barely ok with that massive ego he got from that pod. Music kept him humble. The cameras just show us he's a dick. And that slaughterhouse bag woulda got huge if they stuck with shit
I'm a fan of Joe's music, but let's be honest: Joe for whatever reason wants to have a toxic hold on Slaughterhouse, and he's masking it through his passive aggression and psycho babble, let's keep it funky for a second, if he was that concerned on maintaining the group, he would've at least help push Glasshouse before retiring at least. Now he wants Crook and Joell to wait on him hand and foot? Which made me wonder why Joe feels hurt, because he lost his means of feeding to his narcissistic supply? C'mon now.
He doesn’t care that they are rapping. He had them on his podcast to promote their last album HARRD. Just leave the slaughterhouse stuff behind. It’s been over. This feels like clout. The title is stupid..It is what it is. What is the album proving ?! Nothing. If they want to rap create a new name
How is it that this man can't look in the fucking mirror. I've been following for a long time and HE is NEVER the problem in any of the tumultuous situations he finds himself in. Joe is always fucking right.
This ENTIRE segment was 25+ minutes of Joe saying Joell and Crook are attention seeking, through a thin veil without saying names. This whole situation is disgusting. Can't wait for the Album.
Because he knows better than to try and address the truth and it even worse when you have 2 Co signers who have nothing to do with it running their mouth its gonna be funny when he do the same thing to the 2 beside him now Joe a terrible person why won't the world just accept it
Joe's greatest weakness is self sabotage... His ego gets ahead of him and he's toxic as fuck cause of it. Like in his mind he's never wrong (even when he says he's wrong) and his team just baby him. I think they're stopping him from talking cause he doesn't have a legit reason for half the stuff he's doing. The man is smart but he's like a world class model that harms themself in viable ways
@@flyghtmyleage6041 Royce said he wasn't gonna do it without joe. He was clearly on Joe's side from early. Once Joe retired a 3 man group should have made sense. Can't pander to people like Joe he's a psycho
Joe: I'm retired. Royce: I'm not doing it without Joe. Joel & Crook: Royce & Joe: HOW DARE YOU WHEN DID WE SAY WE AIN'T WANNA DO IT? 😂😂😂😂😂 Gaslighting LEVEL 9000
That's what I am hearing and it's sad...Joe and Royce to me is like listening to God speak when I hear them spit. They really are half this group. But they both play too much and now here we are.
The people wanted closure on one of the best groups to ever grace the mic. Literally a group for hip-hop & rap heads who respect the game. You did it different and then dropped off for 10 years, the fans who help you build that house deserve the closure on it too. Slaughterhouse had a damn near cult following in the music industry and it fell off, the people want to know why.
💯 Joe claims he’s all about the artists and the fans … yet acts like a cry baby when he’s exposed for being too business minded and not being the amazing rap creative that he is. It’s a shame Joe prefers to wear fashion hats over chopping it up with his rap group and do what the cult following fans all have been waiting for over a decade. It’s not a money play … it’s for the culture Joe.
Slaughterhouse is one of the best groups to ever touch a mic? Yikes. I can name 25 off the top of my head that are easily better. I think you meant most mediocre group to make it to the level they did.
Joe, it is your failure, and your failure alone for not being able to work things out with Em/Shady records. Everyone else was good with sticking it out on the label. We now know that y’all were given complete artistic freedom for your 2nd album. But it’s obvious at this point you only cared about yourself. You have NO right to have any issue with what Crook and Joell are doing
They should've stayed independent and not signed with shady Records that was the downfall of the group. Joell ortis said it was the stupidity of management
Alright we already know that it’s your fault the group fell apart Joe. But I’ll listen and see what you’ve got to say. More gas on the fire baby! 😁 Edit: after suffering through this non-discussion discussion, I just have a retort to the whack new cohost: if Joe has nothing to gain by talking about this, then why name the video “What Really Happened with Slaughterhouse”? We’re willing to tune in to hear Joe speak, only to see you all talking in circles and talking about talking.
We all know that Joe was a talented lyricist but as a host to a podcast, he continues to reveal his true self. Everyone who wanted to be close to him have left him because he shows too many signs of being toxic. Slaughterhouse was a monster group and just like everybody else on here, Joe's ego participated in the demise of the group. He wants to have the ability to control everything. What Crooked and Joell are doing is giving the fans what we need. Nobody is going to wait at the bus stop if the bus does not come around to get to a destination. This dude is a joke.
@Jose Martinez He's the classic manic depressive personality, which if left unchecked, untreated, and unmedicated is most of the time going to turn into a destructive force that ends up wrecking everything in it's path (including themselves) that it comes across.
Difference is the niggas you feel exploiting you were passionate about something you all built and because of you're actions you feel "hurt" as if they did something wrong. It's called accountability let your brothers eat and do you and it wouldn't be bad blood on any part. 3 sides to every story remember that.
Joell and Crook were the only ones who cared about moving the Slaughterhouse music without all the politics bullshit, that was clear to me and most true fans from day 1 of it. Now you're sensitive cuz they're officially deading it? It's been dead for years and the same shit you were saying about Summer Walker applies here, the fans wanted it and you can clearly see they still do, they're the only ones WILLING to give closure. I get it you busy podding and Royce being a diva on IG Live. They're stating "their truths" from their perspective, and are still on the table to do some music without all the nonsense, you and Royce AREN'T or else some other project would've come our way loooong ago. "Oh this is for a bag, they're benefitting off my name" is the only corny thing I see here sorry not sorry. I'm more than happy for those 2 to take the equity that the other 2 aren't willing to invest in. Like you said, there's been too many calls but guess what, there's been ZERO action. Now I see the 2 of them taking action after a decade, and from my opinion the 2 who were ready from the get go. They weren't even going at yall, they're just saying what needs to be done. I still pray yall do one project as a group together before yall turn 50 and out of the public sphere. Time's awasting, good on them to get this music out. Long rant, but peace from a Slaughterhouse fan.
Joell & crook look desperate & pathetic. If its been dead for years why talk about it now? Move tf on and make a collab project without using slaughterhouse in the title and without joell sticking his middle finger up saying “fuck you joe” the bum ass slaughterhouse fans dont need “closure” on some shit that only lasted for 4 years especially when the last project (the shady album) was trash
@@Ontheish Why is it only a problem when Crooked and Joell dead it. Royce and Joe said it was done publicly multiple times. Never heard a word from crooked and Joell.
@@Ontheish So putting out music is desperate and pathetic? Yeah whatever gtfoh. Joell was brand new, Crook was still underground, they had way more to lose than Royce and Joe when SH broke up. Joe and Royce had a career and some notoriety before it which they clearly could bank on if things didn't work out. And if you talking about the last album then you clearly aren't a fan, the last mixtape they put out after it was amazing as reconciliation, and Glass House was gonna be more of that. Joell and Crook did work together before this already. Guess what? No Royce or Joe either.
Imagine JOE BUDDEN being mad about someone rapping about something personal. Imagine JOE BUDDEN with a microphone in his face acting like he’s being suppressed.
its not Joell and Crook's fault Joe retired and Royce wants no parts... plenty of bands lose members and don't change their name.. RIP Maurice White, but Earth, Wind & Fire still getting that bag lol Otis Williams still out here eating too 😂😂
As a fan, that “controlling the narrative” argument that celebrities gives is a weak one. We don't care like that. Who rock with you rocks. It's that simple. Unless it's something outlandish. And it's arrogant to think that falling into emotionalism is a “teachable” moment.
I’ve always liked Joe the MC but as a person he’s way to egotistical. He’s very consistent with trying to always prove that his move, point of view, his feelings, or what he says is right and anyone who calls him out on it is wrong regardless if the other did what he’s done to others.
If Slaughterhouse is the Temptations, we know who David Ruffin is, for sure. Make no mistake, I was a huge Budden fan in high school, his Mood Muzik series is one of the best catalogs of fine mixtape material ever recorded imo, but post Mixtape era Joe, is a guy that us real fans just don't know of. He preached about the politics of the industry just to become a politician of the industry. We hate to see it.
@@sirwavydude5435 dude definitely a hypocrite. He on his "I am Joe Budden, and this....is Slaughterhouse" type time. I mean he already was heading there saying "I am Joe Budden from the Joe Budden podcast" Real David Ruffin-ish
I'm glad that most of ya'll in the comments are keeping it 100 about Joe. Between Slaughterhouse, Rory and Mal, his exes especially Cyn, he doesn't realize that it's his mentality that drives people that really care about him away. I know Ice and Ish care about him cause they been around for a long time, but it's weird that they aren't callin him for his shit.
Joe should've been the only one talking on this issue. Crook and Joell got their right to get their shit off and speak their peace. They always was carrying the torch for the group and had the best chemistry. Joe can't be mad that they spoke their minds on it considering he speaks his mind for a living.
Ice & Ish just didn’t want Joe to do a deep dive because they know they will get backlash. They want to protect themselves. Not Joe. Them. Joe is well known for his rants and speaking his truth.
Joe kills me! You don't want to rap, AND you also don't want other members to rap. When is the last time you even had Joell and/or Crooked on the show?
Who's to say they ever asked to be on it as of late? & who said he didn't want the other members to rap? Joe didn't tell Royce "Hey don't continue Slaughterhouse without me" that was Royce's decision to not continue on as a 3 man group.
@@TalentedKamarty does it matter who did what? Joe literally sounding bitter here. We don't hear from Joell or Crooked, ever. They probably just care about rapping, and it's probably a large part of their livelihood. Furthermore, it sounds like this album is them trying to get beyond all this BS
@@JordanClemons yup Joe and Royce don't need the slaughterhouse money, Crook and Joell probably don't need it but it's probably more important to them.
@@Ontheish Ok finally someone who knows what joe was pissed about. Please tell me what them dudes did to joe cuz they wouldn't hardly even let em hint on what the business is. I'm a lil lost
@@B4dafam joell & crook have been trying to convince joe (and royce) for years to reunite as slaughterhouse, but joe has said numerous times that hes retired and enjoys doing the podcast more which should be respected. So after 10 years joell & crook decide to make a documentary and album about how theyre going to kill off slaughterhouse for good, and theyre taking shots at joe while doing so, theyre burning merch in the video etc. Its not joes fault that slaughterhouse was the most relevant time in joell & crooks career and he found a different path in life, now theyre talking down on his name in a desperate attempt to gain hype for this project which is working but its just a hail mary for the bag
They didn’t say anything negative about Joe or Royce. Shouted them out n everything. They told their truth. Joe n Royce are so sensitive SMH 🤦🏾♂️ I don’t see the problem. Crook n Joelle always came off as more genuine n not egotistical as opposed to Royce n Joe. I think they’re truth would be a tad bit more honest than the other half. Joe is a manipulator n Royce sensitive af Lol there always online tryna control narratives. Always talking never rapping. Royce lost points after taking Two Ls from Mickey n Lupe that was sad SMH n Joe was catching jabs from Em n was not tryna step in that ring with that monster. Both these Niggas always got an excuse. They saw that 1.5 million views in a day n got emotional n jealous. That’s really what happened.
Crook & Joell are releasing a project titled 'Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse' March 11. First single is called "Vacancy". They've done 2 webisodes promoting the release thus far with more on the way.
@@tylerschacher3800 what’s this to do with joe tho? Was he supposed to be on it and got taken off? And if so he been said he retired so why is he so passionate bout this? Did they do him wrong or like sneak diss?
Honestly, Royce doesn't get enough blame. I knew when Slaughterhouse joined Shady Records that it was over as a collective. When Royce reconciled with Eminem, it was a wrap. I'm not mad at him because who are you choosing - slaughterhouse or Eminem? You go with the megastar. There is no denying that Royce helped broker that deal because of his and Eminem's history.
@@albertc2390 ok let's say that's the case.... In the words of Crook! "Honor the contract and we can renegotiate" Joe's narcissistic toxicity in fuckin' up every relationship he has business/friends you can't place enough blame on him.
Imma keep it a buck and ask .. why Joe always have falling outs with every single friendship/relationship he is in… I’ve never seen one person literally fall out with every single person they stood side by side with
I've been riding with Budden since '01 but this pod changed him. Money did. He ended slaughterhouse, he copped out on us fans, he let us down. He hid away like a "retired" bitch. Joell and Crook giving the fans closure, giving us their side, giving us more Music, giving us something other than pure bs talk. Budden been a bum for a few yrs now. He was a better rapper and should have retired the pod game instead. Ur mind was more tasteful in lyrics vs conversation
Beyond the politics the fans just wanted a super rap album from 4 top tier lyricist coming together under the shady umbrella. The setup was perfect. If they continued today they’d be mentioned along side other legendary rap groups.
There is nothing on Vacancy that hasn't been said in interviews. In Joe's defense, it was like 6 years from Our House to Revival, for whatever reason they couldn't get Glass House finished.
Joell and Crook burned the merch but Joe burned the group and the fans. Ironically Joe was the one who got the group together on the Halfway House Mixtape. Now the very man who created this doesn't want to link up out of retirement because he despises rapping. As much as I love his music, dude seems to get a demented sense of joy over watching his fanbase suffer/argue and not giving them what they come for. I'd much rather pay $50+ for a new SlaughterHouse album than for a Patreon tier that offers sit downs with Brittany Renner or Nicki Minaj.
"Joell and Crook burned merch but Joe burned the group and the fans." Joe and Royce have a live video on UA-cam where they say they still have merch for their agreed tabled Slaughterhouse project. Crook and Joell literally have the Slaughterhouse logo under fire (funny cuz Crook & Joell are burning relationships to keep warm). Frank Ocean, for example, had the patience to learn, live/experience to help make the right/most profitable/ideal music career decisions (8+years). Artist make music for themselves not us. (Getting on live or anything non musical is for the fans ie. merch). Us Fanatics form our own obsessive interest by definition of the word which means that we have the individual responsibility to hear out what they're (Whatever/whoever you're a fan of) saying and internalize it instead of Staning or being "machismo".
You all ready for this? 1. These dudes talking to Joe like they hold this superstardom where they don't address or aknowledge things publicly need to quit with bs 2. Its a known fact that Joe Budden destroys everything he is involved in. Been like this his whole career. 3. I've opened for Slaughterhouse for almost 10 shows and was suppose to be a opener for the Glasshouse tour. Everytime I was backstage I chopped it up Joell and Crook, once in a while Royce but Joe wanted no business having a convo at all. Was always in his room with the door shut. Taking pictures he wouldnt even pay attention. I don't think he's a bad dude. I just think he personally has other issues he should have corrected. Love him as a artist, I don't hate him but I certainly dislike him as a person.
Budden swears he’s so morally intact, he’s the common denominator in all of these relationships falling out. It can’t be everybody else’s fault and he’s always the victim.
No lie, I relistened to this portion of the pod maybe 2-3 times trying to figure out what or who they were talking bout. Had to find out on twitter lmao so u not alone
@@Roiyaw Entitled. And complacent. Dude was so comfortable with his pay that he was working what 2 hours a day with no side hustle? All of a sudden he became worried about the numbers makes me wonder if he got in some debt thinking the new spotify deal was a lock couldn't get out of it and when he didn't see a split out of the 400k he panicked.
“Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” Alfred TDK
This doesn't explain anything. And from what I cam remember Joe burned some bridges while with slaughterhouse. As it is he turned this into a joke. And Joe was the most toxic in the group.. and I am a fan of Joe, loved his old music. But anyone that followed him and his career cam see where he's made many mistakes. Can't hate on Joel or crooked. Don't even see why Royce is mad when they talked him up, crooked even takes blame for what happened. But Joe made it known over and over he's retired. Don't understand where the lies are in the song.
They also been in the studio and invited Joe and he considered it. Joe also would be more willing to do a Slaughterhouse project if Shady isn’t involved.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WITH COMMON SENSE AND SUCCESS WOULD CONSIDER THIS OLD, CLOUT CHASING AND PATHETIC BUT NOISY NO LIFE/LOW LIFE MOFUKKAZ ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW..I DON'T CARE..
They aren’t going by slaughterhouse the album is called the rise and fall of slaughterhouse. Joe doesn’t rap I don’t see the problem. Its not a slaughterhouse project it can’t be without the 4.
I feel joe, but man I'm a die hard Slaughterhouse fan. I've put many guys on Slaughterhouse. So with that being said, I just wanna hear Slaughterhouse even if it's 2 or 3. So what Crook and Joell is doing that puts a smile on my face still. I could be Royce and Joe I'm still in
@@JDean-oe1ux oh i heard vacancy... which is why "they wrote a confession" is so fucking hilarious Bc thats how joe interpretted it.. given the situation. Its silly to think people didnt listen to a song, when its you who missed out on a joke lmfao. Esp if the song is being talked about in the video.
At what point do you look at all of your situations as a collective and realize that you are the common denominator? Yeah Joe is funny and entertaining at times, but man he moves extremely weird. I might give you the benefit of doubt on the first 5 controversies or so, but eventually I'm going to question why do you have so many falling outs (especially with close friends). I like Joe, but he isn't someone I would trust or rely on if he was someone in my everyday life.
How is it that you are talking as if you know Joe Budden personally? Man you do not know Joe personally nor his life nor what he is going through in his life. So stop it. Stop the assumption
@@FaithfulOverF3w It is crazy that you will actually agree with someone who talks like he knows Joe personally including his life, how he moves and what he goes through in his life. How do you agree with someone like that? Wow. this is crazy
@@ThagreatbigT I don't need to know someone personally to figure out someone treats people like shit if everybody from bandmates, girlfriends, and close friends are all saying eventually he treated them like shit. I mean over the course of his career just look how many bags he's fucked up.
@@MrAfriKa I see you changed your stage name from Nathan Smith to Mr. Afrika interesting how a lot of y'all function on the net to sow some type of seeds and confusion as well as division. Again you just proved my point, you talk like you know him or you are in his inner circle. You really think you know the industry more than Joe? Again stop with the assumption. if you are not in that inner circle nor in New Jersey to go ask him or any of them a question if you are a fan then stop it.
Joe is the PROBLEM. That pull up he did with crook never aired!! Gee I wonder why. The group is no longer with shady and how retired!! If he wanted to come back and do a slaughterhouse album nothing is stopping him. I don't think I've ever heard joe say anything was his fault
Slaughterhouse brand has been dead for a decade now. Joe dipped out with a beef. Everybody has to do what's right for them and that's how you support your brothers right?
So that's it now huh joe , podcasting is more important than expressing ur craft , your feelings, your story , vs talking about bullshit we all know u hate , don't talk about it , make music about it, what last forever more , music or podcasts ,
I fux with Joe, but he needs to take some accountability fam. First Mal and Rory now Crook and Joell? Dudes looked up and realized that 10 years later their bag potential in a particular venture was put on hold. Slaughterhouse has been a dead issue, Crook and Joell just decided to make it an official announcement by way of bars and music for the fans.
Joe already said slaughterhouse was officially dead in episode 160 and he said he was the one to blame for it so wtf is crook & joell saying about “were here to officially kill off slaughterhouse” theyre desperate and its pathetic
@@Ontheish Ok, well if Joe already knew that Slaughterhouse was dead, he shouldn't be upset that a couple of members decided to do an autopsy. Besides you know dead rappers/rap projects get better promotion. Joe and Royce have gotten bags. Let Crook and Joell get theirs. It's rough out here, especially for lyrical MCs.
Joe Budden: Im not doing SH if its on shady records Crooked I: Shady records released SH from the label in 2021 Joe Budden: Still not doing SH Crooked I & Joell: Cool, we'll do it ourselves Joe Budden: 😭 Mad corny
Cut it out man...you're retired!!! We love you Joe but the world don't revolve around you. I would have been even happier if Royce was apart of it too but you guys came together as a group and we loved the group -- not just the individuals. Crook been the main anchor and reaching out to all of y'all to get something final for the fans man. If you wanted to rap, I'm sure the beats were there to contribute. Don't be mad when the show goes on without you.
Why doesnt joe have the right to be upset when joell is sticking his middle finger up and saying “fuck you joe” in the video? And i just watched episode 2 of their bum ass series and theyre taking shots at joe in the songs foh joell & crook are desperate and its pathetic that theyre trying to hold on to the most relevant part of their careers which was 10 years ago
😐Joe is just as involved in the group as the rest. The idea of Joe "not being involved" just shows how much you don't understand Joe and Royce's stance on the matter.
They did a confessional, they burned a pig 😂 Slaughterhouse was supposed to be against the gimmicks and it’s all gimmicks now. Miss me with the Gossip Girl moves.
Joe can't really speak on the issue because he the same dude FIRED AN INVISIBLE RORY AND MAL LIVE ON AIR. LOL Joe preached... Show Must Go On!!! We can't stop the show for ya'll two. Now he want Crook and Joel to stick it out and wait around. SMH Joe got multiple personalities
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I find it funny that Joe is experiencing right here, EXACTLY what Nicki Minaj was going through in 2018-2020 during the hate train. And it’s what she was tryna say when they spoke on their original interview on the JBP podcast (Ps. They have a new interview coming next week)…. She felt like she stayed quiet long enough & then when ppl lie on you & your name for soooo long, there’s only so much u can let go, before u need to defend yourself & your name! But the problem is, when ppl are looking for a response. Any response is a “loss” & seen as a negative in the public eye. That’s why no matter what Nicki said or did, the public wasn’t gonna accept it at that time. It’s said - but Joe is learning the same thing in this moment , & I hope he realizes that & has some empathy for what Nicki was tryna say to him back in that interview.
The positive teaching moment in this is…You been said YOUR part about your reasons why YOU ain’t wanna do the Slaughterhouse anymore…so it’s okay to let the others say how they feel about it…nobody desperate and just tryna get a bag …then two still rap so why wouldn’t they want to be compensated for it…your buddies right there basically saying you’ve already spoke on it enough…. And you can explode all you want too lol….you ain’t the only one grenade like hahahaha…
and I’m a fan of yours Joe…your music got me and I’m sure many in these comments thru some real stuff man…let them do them…you been doing you brother…. I think maybe you are just so far done with that situation, that you don’t wanna hear any aspect of it …Peace.
@@kwanzito562 it's not that he doesn't want them to speak it's that the rollout is based on dissing SH and Joe in particular to get joe to react and give the album more promo. They are trying to exploit that relationship. Joe had both of them on to promote their previous album.
@@PardonMyPresence Nah…that ain’t it ..they are not dissing Joe..they are reminiscing over some times and telling stories that Joe was in…when have you ever heard a Joe story and it not be funny?
I remember when Joe buddens called the cops on ransom telling them he had an illegal gun after he started the beef. Anyone who was cool with him after that deserves everything lol
Joe had beef with Shady then retired. How is he mad they are putting slaughterhouse to bed when it's been over for almost a decade and he was a large part of why the train stopped.
The teachable moment being stop addressing stuff on the podcast. Joe be letting his emotions drive him instead of trying to really fix the situation with people who you considered brothers at one point, he talks about they doin stuff for a bag but the moment he gets on the podcast and tries to address it he’s doing it for a bag because the drama is what makes the view count go up and he knows that.
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That fact that Joe, Ice, and Ish all felt the need to act like Joe has ANY LEG TO STAND ON against Joell and Crook is BEYOOOOND ME🤦🏿♂️
Crook is far superior rapper then Joe let's not start being stupid here
@@yugo4855 who said that???
@@yugo4855 😭😭😭 wtf did you get that out of this man's comment 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@yugo4855 So tell him to go rap. Move on, man. If it wasn’t for Joe, Royce & Slaughterhouse, no one would even know who him or Joel were. Instead of being bitter that it ended, use it as a springboard. They want to “Temptations” Slaughterhouse, w/ a rotating roster of rappers under the banner...
Do you see the members of D12 pulling this shit cause Em disbanded the group? If you got a problem w/ what Joe did, then you better be consistent...
They know he don’t. That’s why they just said don’t say nothing lol
Joe is my all time favourite rapper, but this is insanity. So it's ok for him to have issues with Shady records, hold the group back for a decade, retire & effectively end Slaughterhouse etc. But it's not ok for Joell & Crooked to rap about it ??? As a Slaughterhouse fan, I'm glad Joell & Crooked are giving us closure.
Also - for the people who keep asking if Joe Budden is really my favourite rapper, the answer is yes. I said what I said, you can stop asking now. If you haven't heard enough of his music just say that
Facts!!!!!!!!!!!
No, not only are your “brothers” not sticking up for you, after 10 years & both got their own successful solo careers, you still holding on to the past & being bitter, to the point where you essentially do a diss record? Why didn’t y’all do this shit back in 2018, when it was actually relevant? They putting money & feelings over loyalty & respect. Joe never came out & said anything negative about anyone in Slaughterhouse, and everything he did (while some would disagree) was to try & benefit the group. He had a problem w/ the label, & mismanagement of Slaughterhouse’s direction (and rightfully so, cause that album was trash. Not to mention, Griselda, Boogie & Yellawolf all faced the same issues). So for them to pull this outta nowhere, after so many years looks like they either desperate for money, or “slaughterhouse-negroing” on “others” behalf...
BTW: Respect to Royce for balancing both friendships throughout this whole situation. That’s HouseGang for life (word to the 🐖 on 🤚🏾)...
@Boy George For real. From Def Jam to Shady Records to Everyday Struggle to Slaughterhouse to the Podcast with Mal & Rory....Joe has a reputation of falling out with people. At some point you have to hold yourself accountable especially if you're the common denominator
@@Messiah_Black They didn't diss him on that track tho. They simply explained why Slaughterhouse is dead & not coming back despite the fans constantly asking for the return. We'll see how the rest of the project pans out
Thank you for break down
The teachable moment is for you Joe. You refused the chance. At that point it stopped involving you. THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU.
At the end of the day, JOE, YOU retired and you had discrepancies with Shady Records and you even said that another artist could fill YOUR position. Whether or not Joe was being facetious or serious or not, he said that and Royce said no. I’m still wondering why he took the pull up video doing with Crooked he did, that was strange. You can’t fault Joell and Crook for wanting to KEEP rapping. Joe has a history of self sabotaging and self destructing. They haven’t dropped in 10 YEARS! We as fans were left high and dry on the future of Slaughterhouse. They could’ve been the biggest lyrical group of their time but being Premadonnas and egotisticals fucked the whole thing up!
It was a pivot based on options and opportunities and... work! If we have an avenue to hear your opinion on the situation then he can most definitely share his thoughts on his platform. Joe is one of the best A 🎤 s in the game.
Who cares non of this matters bruh
@@waynebuckley6946 absolutely and I have PLENTY of Joe music.
@@waynebuckley6946 he barely shared his opinion cuz he was stopped by Ish and Ice.
@@brandenapexo604 it does matter actually but regardless of it doesn’t matter, it was a good marketing opportunity then anybody would’ve capitalized off of. Royce said he moved on in a 2018 tweet. If the door was closed then what’s the problem? After like 2012, Royce started working with DJ Premier and kept releasing music, etc. lawyers hopped in the mix and SH isn’t apart of the SH brand. Joe never called to confirm.
Joe got some nerve. This man talked about every personal situation he's ever been in in his music. Even made Slaughtermouse. So now Crook and Joel are doing the same thing and its a issue with him? FOH
Idk, after watching some of that Crooked and Joell shit, it seem like they got together to publicly drag Joe and Slaughterhouse, but mainly Joe... I don't listen to the podcast enough to say Joe never came at them sideways on the platform, but I missed it if he did. And if Joe didn't come at them on his platform before they decided to shit on him, then them 2 niggas is lame.
@@St.CrimsonTweets your being bias without knowing all the facts!
@@Ahijah not at all, bias and ignorant are not the same thing. What I am is ignorant because I don't follow either side enough know, like you mentioned, but I'm not blindly defending either side knowing they did wrong. All I'm doing is giving an opinion based on what I know. But feel free to fill me in, I'm having a hard time getting the full story.
@@St.CrimsonTweets Joe Has Only Bigged Up Crook & Joell On The Pod, So This Does Come Off Hella Lame
@@SupremeKai_Omniverse I've only ever heard Joe show love on the podcast, obviously we don't know how the phone calls went behind the scenes, but after seeing the live with Royce, Joe and Joell it definitely looks like this whole thing was meant to exploit, and I'm going off Royce line of questions to Joell because Joe was being emotional and adding fuel to the fire like he always does once shit hits the fan
Joe is in my top 10, but I don't understand why someone that is so adamant about never rapping again is so offended by his former group members moving on. And this long drawn out, talking in circles response is ridiculous. Air your grievance clearly...stop talking around it in hypotheticals.
Exactly why this makes no sense. His brain needs to be studied in full. Nigga not healthy
@@jdizzle1779 stg I was watching the live wit Royce and Joell like “I think this nigga Joe is a psychopath.”
Fam, he's in my top 5 and I don't even understand what his frustration is when he has said publicly that he is a retired rapper. Smh. I don't get it.
Joe ability to act like the “victim” and be “the bigger man” is impressive.
Vaginal had act like he was admirable.
it's literally all the time, every situation
🤣🤣🤣
It’s called narcissism
Facts
It's strange how Joe and Royce are catching feelings but they don't wanna get in the booth......Joell and Crooked wanna rap, that's what rappers do. Joe said he retired, Royce said he ain't doing a 3 man show so what are them dudes that wanna rap spose to do?
They can rap without bringing up slaughterhouse lol obviously they knew it would be an attention grabber
@@AJGAMEZYT15 But the purpose of the album is to address the issue so that the fans understand what went down.
@@irvinpamana They still could have but this is how they chose to market it bc they knew it'll be a headline, smart choice on their behalf btw. Crook and Joell dont really have dynamic personalities/arent that marketable, neither is royce for that matter. Joe was always the most popular/polarizing one, hence why he was able to transition into a successful podcast career.
@@irvinpamana And burning the merch? Was that to let the fans understand or are you gonna keep it a buck and say it was a publicity stunt because Joell and Crook both know nobody outside the slaughterhouse fanbase is checking for their music and this is probably the last and biggest look they're ever gonna have for rest of their careers? It's not Joe and Royce's problem if they put all their eggs in the slaughterhouse basket and their solo careers never went anywhere. It's their problem that they needed slaughterhouse a hell of a lot more than slaughterhouse needed them. "Royce said he won't do a 3 man show without Joe. Joe says he's retired so how's that supposed to go?" You move on with your life my guy and stop pinning all your hopes onto getting the band back together.
I think it's a genius marketing plan. Rappers stage beefs all the time to market their albums. Good for them. I hope it's wildly successful.
Okay ill say it. This is where Joe needs Rory & Mal the most
Defo... But Joe isn't about to see another person's side of the story let's be real
Damn💯
Yo I was thinking this
I was thinking that, this show got really bad lol these two flunkies just agree with everything lol
That’s mad true and ironic
Joe is such a hard guy to agree with.. he always put himself first in every situation.. as soon as someone else does it he feels a way and gets in his feelings..
Joe grew up an only child. I feel it’s like a defense mechanism for him to sabotage shit when ever he feels like he’s loosing control.
It's his podcast lmfao
Most drug addicts are.
@@flipinfin what does it matter if it’s his podcast? He said they are doing it at his expense yet they’ve been begging him to rap and he won’t. They didn’t do anything at his expense yet he’s making it about him
@@HennyAnderson Well the podcast is based around him 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fans just wanna hear SLAUGHTERHOUSE PERIOD!
Facts we do all of them
Not really dawg, that ship sailed a long time ago. Unfortunately, they never had great chemistry on or off the mic, awkward mix like Carmelo and Amare on the Knicks back in the day
@@AJGAMEZYT15 Not to fans. I loved everything they dropped
@@1CHOZN7 stans*** and I was a fan of their music personally as a group individually but nah, facts are the facts. They couldn't make a great album or many great songs, their lack of chemistry was apparent on and off the mic, their rap styles didnt mix well. Showed great potential at times during freestyles and some song but they werent a great group. In theory/on paper they were and everyone got hyped from the Eminem signing but nah, completely flopped for a reason and it is what it is
Anytime Joe has something good going he fucks it up. Self sabotage at its finest. This podcast included.
Preach!!
Big facts. He should have retired from the pod game instead of rapping. Slaughterhouse was much more palatable over this pod bs.
Yes
@@Here716 remember 'everybody need a bag' Joe never saw anything close to the pod money when he was rapping
@@killabeezle lol what's your point? His pod is trash. His character is barely ok with that massive ego he got from that pod. Music kept him humble. The cameras just show us he's a dick. And that slaughterhouse bag woulda got huge if they stuck with shit
I'm a fan of Joe's music, but let's be honest: Joe for whatever reason wants to have a toxic hold on Slaughterhouse, and he's masking it through his passive aggression and psycho babble, let's keep it funky for a second, if he was that concerned on maintaining the group, he would've at least help push Glasshouse before retiring at least. Now he wants Crook and Joell to wait on him hand and foot? Which made me wonder why Joe feels hurt, because he lost his means of feeding to his narcissistic supply? C'mon now.
Joe wanna be the Kandi Burruss of Slaughterhouse
@@alwaysasmilingface There's always that one Bobby Brown, just one 🤦🏿♂️
You BETTER R.E.A.D.
He doesn’t care that they are rapping. He had them on his podcast to promote their last album HARRD. Just leave the slaughterhouse stuff behind. It’s been over. This feels like clout. The title is stupid..It is what it is. What is the album proving ?! Nothing. If they want to rap create a new name
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 well Crooked and Joell felt the Slaughterhouse fans don't deserve being left on a cliffhanger.
How is it that this man can't look in the fucking mirror. I've been following for a long time and HE is NEVER the problem in any of the tumultuous situations he finds himself in. Joe is always fucking right.
That's a Virgo in a nutshell
Truth.
💯
Lol
Facts!
This ENTIRE segment was 25+ minutes of Joe saying Joell and Crook are attention seeking, through a thin veil without saying names.
This whole situation is disgusting. Can't wait for the Album.
I watched it for like 5 minutes and skipped to the end. Joe needs serious therapy or be on meds daily or something. [×]
It was very disrespectful he compared it to hoe culture
"....25+ minutes of Joe saying Joell and Crook are attention seeking..." .......and they're broke
Because he knows better than to try and address the truth and it even worse when you have 2 Co signers who have nothing to do with it running their mouth its gonna be funny when he do the same thing to the 2 beside him now Joe a terrible person why won't the world just accept it
@@solacenmute4840 People are aware. They just don't care because it doesn't personally or directly affect them.
Joe's greatest weakness is self sabotage... His ego gets ahead of him and he's toxic as fuck cause of it. Like in his mind he's never wrong (even when he says he's wrong) and his team just baby him. I think they're stopping him from talking cause he doesn't have a legit reason for half the stuff he's doing. The man is smart but he's like a world class model that harms themself in viable ways
Yep, what you said is 💯. His music career wasn't bigger because of his own character, not because of any lack of talent
I agree with you but it seems like Royce is sided with Joe so maybe Joe is right about something but it's not bring articulated
@@flyghtmyleage6041 Royce said he wasn't gonna do it without joe. He was clearly on Joe's side from early. Once Joe retired a 3 man group should have made sense. Can't pander to people like Joe he's a psycho
Wait Charlemagne said this for years and everyone said he was jealous and hating...
@@bringinthedope5929 that's crazy anyone would say Catha God was jealous of Joe when he's bigger and more successful than Joe
Joe: I'm retired.
Royce: I'm not doing it without Joe.
Joel & Crook:
Royce & Joe: HOW DARE YOU WHEN DID WE SAY WE AIN'T WANNA DO IT?
😂😂😂😂😂 Gaslighting LEVEL 9000
😂
They are acting like Joel & Crook are some hoes the way they spinning BS
y’all niggas clearly not gettin the bigger picture
That's what I am hearing and it's sad...Joe and Royce to me is like listening to God speak when I hear them spit. They really are half this group. But they both play too much and now here we are.
Not gaslighting. Did Joe see the contract, have his team look at it and verbally tell crook and joell yes or no?
The people wanted closure on one of the best groups to ever grace the mic. Literally a group for hip-hop & rap heads who respect the game. You did it different and then dropped off for 10 years, the fans who help you build that house deserve the closure on it too. Slaughterhouse had a damn near cult following in the music industry and it fell off, the people want to know why.
Tell em again!!
💯
Joe claims he’s all about the artists and the fans … yet acts like a cry baby when he’s exposed for being too business minded and not being the amazing rap creative that he is.
It’s a shame Joe prefers to wear fashion hats over chopping it up with his rap group and do what the cult following fans all have been waiting for over a decade.
It’s not a money play … it’s for the culture Joe.
Exactly!! His cohosts were telling him not to address something that the fans helped make him!
Slaughterhouse is one of the best groups to ever touch a mic? Yikes. I can name 25 off the top of my head that are easily better. I think you meant most mediocre group to make it to the level they did.
Entitlement
7 minutes in and they’ve said nothing. 🙄 Stop being so cryptic. They did this for the fans. Joe’s reputation precedes him. Just ask Rory and Mal.
Joe, it is your failure, and your failure alone for not being able to work things out with Em/Shady records. Everyone else was good with sticking it out on the label. We now know that y’all were given complete artistic freedom for your 2nd album. But it’s obvious at this point you only cared about yourself. You have NO right to have any issue with what Crook and Joell are doing
They should've stayed independent and not signed with shady Records that was the downfall of the group. Joell ortis said it was the stupidity of management
@@The-Endo-SymArmor we wouldve gotten less music from them if that was the case probably
@@user-ib2kt4oo7i yeah unfortunately that's what happened. Budden said it himself. He felt that the group was better off not signing to a lebel
Alright we already know that it’s your fault the group fell apart Joe. But I’ll listen and see what you’ve got to say. More gas on the fire baby! 😁
Edit: after suffering through this non-discussion discussion, I just have a retort to the whack new cohost: if Joe has nothing to gain by talking about this, then why name the video “What Really Happened with Slaughterhouse”? We’re willing to tune in to hear Joe speak, only to see you all talking in circles and talking about talking.
You Know They Don't Control The UA-cam Right Lol.
@@SupremeKai_Omniverse you think Joe would put his name on the channel and not have a say in it? I can't see that happening. bit of a cop out king
Broooo …..all this talking and they ain’t said shit! Smh
Bro you nailed it , you got me 😂🤣😭😭😭😭💀 Let's not respond by responding about not responding 🤣🤣🤣
The truth lives alone. The rest is every one's perspective
Who made this quote?
@@tellmesomething2412 That was not a quote 😊
@@kaysha 😂😂😂
Using this quote for the rest of my life
@@DarrellTron ha ha. It's a great way to think. Our perspectives have to always be taken into perspective
We all know that Joe was a talented lyricist but as a host to a podcast, he continues to reveal his true self. Everyone who wanted to be close to him have left him because he shows too many signs of being toxic. Slaughterhouse was a monster group and just like everybody else on here, Joe's ego participated in the demise of the group. He wants to have the ability to control everything. What Crooked and Joell are doing is giving the fans what we need. Nobody is going to wait at the bus stop if the bus does not come around to get to a destination. This dude is a joke.
💯 stopped watching the pod years ago when I noticed that
@@Unxpekted but did you??
@@kaliefhampton2483 lmaooo😂🤣 how you stop watching years ago but in the comments
@Jose Martinez He's the classic manic depressive personality, which if left unchecked, untreated, and unmedicated is most of the time going to turn into a destructive force that ends up wrecking everything in it's path (including themselves) that it comes across.
@@Zzz-iz1ytbecause this is about Slaughterhouse and I am a fan.
Difference is the niggas you feel exploiting you were passionate about something you all built and because of you're actions you feel "hurt" as if they did something wrong. It's called accountability let your brothers eat and do you and it wouldn't be bad blood on any part. 3 sides to every story remember that.
Joe you're the reason one of the best groups of all time broke up. You can talk around the issue all you want.
I love how Joe only hears what he wants to hear and when is he capable of teachable moments lol, he’s a firestorm
And you're still a fan, tuning in everyday. Your life is a firestorm.
He is truly an enigma!
@@yahmoms8022 You saying he’s a shitshow for tuning in? So why you here too then lol?
Are you able to expound on this thought? What did joe hear that he only wanted to hear? What is it that he chose not to hear?
@@waveybeats 😄
Joell and Crook were the only ones who cared about moving the Slaughterhouse music without all the politics bullshit, that was clear to me and most true fans from day 1 of it. Now you're sensitive cuz they're officially deading it? It's been dead for years and the same shit you were saying about Summer Walker applies here, the fans wanted it and you can clearly see they still do, they're the only ones WILLING to give closure. I get it you busy podding and Royce being a diva on IG Live. They're stating "their truths" from their perspective, and are still on the table to do some music without all the nonsense, you and Royce AREN'T or else some other project would've come our way loooong ago. "Oh this is for a bag, they're benefitting off my name" is the only corny thing I see here sorry not sorry. I'm more than happy for those 2 to take the equity that the other 2 aren't willing to invest in. Like you said, there's been too many calls but guess what, there's been ZERO action. Now I see the 2 of them taking action after a decade, and from my opinion the 2 who were ready from the get go. They weren't even going at yall, they're just saying what needs to be done. I still pray yall do one project as a group together before yall turn 50 and out of the public sphere. Time's awasting, good on them to get this music out. Long rant, but peace from a Slaughterhouse fan.
All this is FAXXXXXXXXXX
Joell & crook look desperate & pathetic. If its been dead for years why talk about it now? Move tf on and make a collab project without using slaughterhouse in the title and without joell sticking his middle finger up saying “fuck you joe” the bum ass slaughterhouse fans dont need “closure” on some shit that only lasted for 4 years especially when the last project (the shady album) was trash
@@Ontheish Why is it only a problem when Crooked and Joell dead it. Royce and Joe said it was done publicly multiple times. Never heard a word from crooked and Joell.
@@Ontheish So putting out music is desperate and pathetic? Yeah whatever gtfoh. Joell was brand new, Crook was still underground, they had way more to lose than Royce and Joe when SH broke up. Joe and Royce had a career and some notoriety before it which they clearly could bank on if things didn't work out. And if you talking about the last album then you clearly aren't a fan, the last mixtape they put out after it was amazing as reconciliation, and Glass House was gonna be more of that. Joell and Crook did work together before this already. Guess what? No Royce or Joe either.
@@oIRONITEo do I think they were saying it was dead to get off of Shady?
Imagine JOE BUDDEN being mad about someone rapping about something personal. Imagine JOE BUDDEN with a microphone in his face acting like he’s being suppressed.
its not Joell and Crook's fault Joe retired and Royce wants no parts... plenty of bands lose members and don't change their name.. RIP Maurice White, but Earth, Wind & Fire still getting that bag lol Otis Williams still out here eating too 😂😂
Shiiiit The Temptations. Not an original member there anymore I believe.
@@JigInsane according to wiki he still active, but still lmao
dont talk about Joe over pulled pork or any kind of brisket
@@Chich_Danza that's like Mike from Boyz II Men, might pop up from time to time. Lol.
But Joel was dissing
As a fan, that “controlling the narrative” argument that celebrities gives is a weak one. We don't care like that. Who rock with you rocks. It's that simple. Unless it's something outlandish. And it's arrogant to think that falling into emotionalism is a “teachable” moment.
whats your point?
What Does This Mean?
I’ve always liked Joe the MC but as a person he’s way to egotistical. He’s very consistent with trying to always prove that his move, point of view, his feelings, or what he says is right and anyone who calls him out on it is wrong regardless if the other did what he’s done to others.
Yeah, same here
Bruh he really thinks hes better than Method Man & Jay-Z. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Slaughterhouse is the Temptations, we know who David Ruffin is, for sure.
Make no mistake, I was a huge Budden fan in high school, his Mood Muzik series is one of the best catalogs of fine mixtape material ever recorded imo, but post Mixtape era Joe, is a guy that us real fans just don't know of. He preached about the politics of the industry just to become a politician of the industry. We hate to see it.
Bruh I'm saying, dude is a crazy Hypocrite and Contradicts his self every pod lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It seems like he would be doing the same thing if he was them.
@@muhammedalli3143 He most definitely would be. They supposed to just fade away since Royce and Joe don't want any parts.
@@sirwavydude5435 dude definitely a hypocrite. He on his "I am Joe Budden, and this....is Slaughterhouse" type time. I mean he already was heading there saying "I am Joe Budden from the Joe Budden podcast"
Real David Ruffin-ish
Word. Like he wanna control what others should rap and when
I'm glad that most of ya'll in the comments are keeping it 100 about Joe.
Between Slaughterhouse, Rory and Mal, his exes especially Cyn, he doesn't realize that it's his mentality that drives people that really care about him away.
I know Ice and Ish care about him cause they been around for a long time, but it's weird that they aren't callin him for his shit.
Main reason is because it’ll affect their bag, Parks already showed his hand with the previous situation.
They had falling outs with joe to, everything he touches he damages.
Its Funny Watching People Talk About Somebody They Don't Know The Internet Is Mad Funny
@@SupremeKai_Omniverse yet here you're commenting about people having opinions 😐
All joe girls got man faces.
Joe should've been the only one talking on this issue. Crook and Joell got their right to get their shit off and speak their peace. They always was carrying the torch for the group and had the best chemistry. Joe can't be mad that they spoke their minds on it considering he speaks his mind for a living.
Agreed. The two yes men opinions aren't valid or needed.
Joe's really hurt cause it's his fault that this happened
Ice & Ish just didn’t want Joe to do a deep dive because they know they will get backlash. They want to protect themselves. Not Joe. Them. Joe is well known for his rants and speaking his truth.
I mean, I wouldn’t want that smoke either 🤣 that’s not their problems
Joe kills me! You don't want to rap, AND you also don't want other members to rap. When is the last time you even had Joell and/or Crooked on the show?
Then they should have done this differently
@@NursePN09 it's been years, they probably tired of the semantics and want to put music out. Joe and Royce be on some bullshit, and the fans suffer.
Who's to say they ever asked to be on it as of late? & who said he didn't want the other members to rap? Joe didn't tell Royce "Hey don't continue Slaughterhouse without me" that was Royce's decision to not continue on as a 3 man group.
@@TalentedKamarty does it matter who did what? Joe literally sounding bitter here. We don't hear from Joell or Crooked, ever. They probably just care about rapping, and it's probably a large part of their livelihood. Furthermore, it sounds like this album is them trying to get beyond all this BS
@@JordanClemons yup Joe and Royce don't need the slaughterhouse money, Crook and Joell probably don't need it but it's probably more important to them.
Ayo, we still miss the shit out of you guys & will never give up hope on the reunion.
Aww man! But Joe you’re retired.. you can’t be too mad
Nah he has the right to be mad, especially when joell sticks his middle finger up and says “fuck you joe” in the video
@@Ontheish Ok finally someone who knows what joe was pissed about. Please tell me what them dudes did to joe cuz they wouldn't hardly even let em hint on what the business is. I'm a lil lost
@@B4dafam joell & crook have been trying to convince joe (and royce) for years to reunite as slaughterhouse, but joe has said numerous times that hes retired and enjoys doing the podcast more which should be respected. So after 10 years joell & crook decide to make a documentary and album about how theyre going to kill off slaughterhouse for good, and theyre taking shots at joe while doing so, theyre burning merch in the video etc. Its not joes fault that slaughterhouse was the most relevant time in joell & crooks career and he found a different path in life, now theyre talking down on his name in a desperate attempt to gain hype for this project which is working but its just a hail mary for the bag
@@Ontheish I think Joey doing this podcast is better for his mental health honestly
Dude what are u talking about. What does him being retired have to do with them dissing him?
You didnt even listen to the song 😄
I miss Rory & Mal, these dudes are such yes men it's absurd. But also speaks on who Joe wants around him. SMH
They didn’t say anything negative about Joe or Royce. Shouted them out n everything. They told their truth. Joe n Royce are so sensitive SMH 🤦🏾♂️ I don’t see the problem. Crook n Joelle always came off as more genuine n not egotistical as opposed to Royce n Joe. I think they’re truth would be a tad bit more honest than the other half. Joe is a manipulator n Royce sensitive af Lol there always online tryna control narratives. Always talking never rapping. Royce lost points after taking Two Ls from Mickey n Lupe that was sad SMH n Joe was catching jabs from Em n was not tryna step in that ring with that monster. Both these Niggas always got an excuse. They saw that 1.5 million views in a day n got emotional n jealous. That’s really what happened.
Ego who’s what🤣🤣🤣
U like a big ego huh ? 😂😂 testys
@@fmjay6419 you never built an empire so you wouldn’t understand
@@mr.solodolo4257 i don’t think you reading “egotistical” right bruh, this mf just said “ego TESTICLE”🤣🤣🤣
@@jctheii 😂😂😂😂 maaaan
So glad OLS3 came out. That song helped me with my newborn and his mother. He now is 14 on the 14th. Life been beautiful to me.
What happened to Slaughterhouse? Joe doesnt answer for 20mins SMH
thats what i said i was so confused when i watched this segment i still don't understand what or who he is talking about
Crook & Joell are releasing a project titled 'Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse' March 11. First single is called "Vacancy". They've done 2 webisodes promoting the release thus far with more on the way.
@@tylerschacher3800 what’s this to do with joe tho? Was he supposed to be on it and got taken off? And if so he been said he retired so why is he so passionate bout this? Did they do him wrong or like sneak diss?
@@kingsosa8671 they dissed him in a video. Ain’t no sneak diss lol
@@jaydell4039 oh alright didn’t know that. Thank u
Joe's the reason why we were robbed of Great SlaughterHouse Music.
Honestly, Royce doesn't get enough blame. I knew when Slaughterhouse joined Shady Records that it was over as a collective. When Royce reconciled with Eminem, it was a wrap. I'm not mad at him because who are you choosing - slaughterhouse or Eminem? You go with the megastar. There is no denying that Royce helped broker that deal because of his and Eminem's history.
No hes not joell confirmed slaughterhouse business was trash that was the real issue
@@albertc2390 ok let's say that's the case.... In the words of Crook! "Honor the contract and we can renegotiate" Joe's narcissistic toxicity in fuckin' up every relationship he has business/friends you can't place enough blame on him.
My bad A.C I was trying to reply to Sontwist'
@@marcuscadiz2012 no problem. I agree with you.
"What do u think of friends exploiting a relationship?" That was hilarious
Imma keep it a buck and ask .. why Joe always have falling outs with every single friendship/relationship he is in… I’ve never seen one person literally fall out with every single person they stood side by side with
I've been riding with Budden since '01 but this pod changed him. Money did. He ended slaughterhouse, he copped out on us fans, he let us down. He hid away like a "retired" bitch. Joell and Crook giving the fans closure, giving us their side, giving us more Music, giving us something other than pure bs talk. Budden been a bum for a few yrs now. He was a better rapper and should have retired the pod game instead. Ur mind was more tasteful in lyrics vs conversation
exactly spot on. Pod Joe thinks hes above ppl especially his former bandmates and the fans. He is severely gassed up
100
Beyond the politics the fans just wanted a super rap album from 4 top tier lyricist coming together under the shady umbrella.
The setup was perfect.
If they continued today they’d be mentioned along side other legendary rap groups.
Joe wanted to get paid/own more and didn't, So he left the group and didn't honor the contract. How is this still a topic?
If only the ppl next to him would say it like that.
I was listening to Joe’s live about it and my 8 year old nephew goes “sounds like he isn’t explaining. He’s just making a bunch of excuses”
There is nothing on Vacancy that hasn't been said in interviews. In Joe's defense, it was like 6 years from Our House to Revival, for whatever reason they couldn't get Glass House finished.
But backstage was some shots thrown
Joell and Crook burned the merch but Joe burned the group and the fans. Ironically Joe was the one who got the group together on the Halfway House Mixtape. Now the very man who created this doesn't want to link up out of retirement because he despises rapping. As much as I love his music, dude seems to get a demented sense of joy over watching his fanbase suffer/argue and not giving them what they come for. I'd much rather pay $50+ for a new SlaughterHouse album than for a Patreon tier that offers sit downs with Brittany Renner or Nicki Minaj.
"Joell and Crook burned merch but Joe burned the group and the fans."
Joe and Royce have a live video on UA-cam where they say they still have merch for their agreed tabled Slaughterhouse project. Crook and Joell literally have the Slaughterhouse logo under fire (funny cuz Crook & Joell are burning relationships to keep warm). Frank Ocean, for example, had the patience to learn, live/experience to help make the right/most profitable/ideal music career decisions (8+years). Artist make music for themselves not us. (Getting on live or anything non musical is for the fans ie. merch). Us Fanatics form our own obsessive interest by definition of the word which means that we have the individual responsibility to hear out what they're (Whatever/whoever you're a fan of) saying and internalize it instead of Staning or being "machismo".
Nino Bless created slaughterhouse. Joe just took his song and idea.
Having followed Joes so long, and loved his music for all these years, I saw this playing the victim thing coming, so predictable 🤦🏾♂️
I don't understand joe's side of this. You don't want to rap anymore you've made that clear.
You have to take everything he says with a pinch of salt!
This "explanation" needed 4 tablespoons of salt
You all ready for this?
1. These dudes talking to Joe like they hold this superstardom where they don't address or aknowledge things publicly need to quit with bs
2. Its a known fact that Joe Budden destroys everything he is involved in. Been like this his whole career.
3. I've opened for Slaughterhouse for almost 10 shows and was suppose to be a opener for the Glasshouse tour. Everytime I was backstage I chopped it up Joell and Crook, once in a while Royce but Joe wanted no business having a convo at all. Was always in his room with the door shut. Taking pictures he wouldnt even pay attention. I don't think he's a bad dude. I just think he personally has other issues he should have corrected. Love him as a artist, I don't hate him but I certainly dislike him as a person.
Microphone is one the best songs period
🔥🔥🔥. Love the instrumental
Onslaught for me
@@mrsaunders9989 that one go hard too
Joe, you fucked up the bag for others, then hopped off and made your own with no concern for the impact on them.
I fully support Joel and Crook.
Joe is right about one thing, there is no therapist in the world that will tell you to hold your feelings in
how to let them out is usually where people fault. nonattachemnt is the way to go
Budden swears he’s so morally intact, he’s the common denominator in all of these relationships falling out. It can’t be everybody else’s fault and he’s always the victim.
You didn’t address it though, you addressed addressing it.
lol, well said
So basically they kind of did to you what you did to Rory & Mal and you feel some type of way about it. You retire, the show must go on.
Wrong, go back to rory & mals channel
True
Wow! This was referring to Slaughterhouse? I watched the whole episode thinking it was about the old co-host.
Lmao! I can see how you would think that fr
No lie, I relistened to this portion of the pod maybe 2-3 times trying to figure out what or who they were talking bout. Had to find out on twitter lmao so u not alone
You’re not alone. I felt like they were talking in Morse code or responding to each other with strictly proverbs for the first 2/3rds of it. WTF
I think they take shots at one another on the low.
If you listen to the song Vacancy I think Joell said it best. No dissing. Just being real.
It's called the universe gives you what you give. Publicly firing Rory and Mal might be some reason for karma.
Look at the end of the day Rory missed a month of work.
Go try that with your job
@@kylegardner9458 Rory got entitled too quickly
@@Roiyaw Entitled. And complacent.
Dude was so comfortable with his pay that he was working what 2 hours a day with no side hustle? All of a sudden he became worried about the numbers makes me wonder if he got in some debt thinking the new spotify deal was a lock couldn't get out of it and when he didn't see a split out of the 400k he panicked.
@@kylegardner9458 Joe asked him to leave.
“Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” Alfred TDK
Talking about not responding while responding is definitely a thing 😂
This doesn't explain anything. And from what I cam remember Joe burned some bridges while with slaughterhouse. As it is he turned this into a joke. And Joe was the most toxic in the group.. and I am a fan of Joe, loved his old music. But anyone that followed him and his career cam see where he's made many mistakes. Can't hate on Joel or crooked. Don't even see why Royce is mad when they talked him up, crooked even takes blame for what happened. But Joe made it known over and over he's retired. Don't understand where the lies are in the song.
They also been in the studio and invited Joe and he considered it. Joe also would be more willing to do a Slaughterhouse project if Shady isn’t involved.
Facts bro
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WITH COMMON SENSE AND SUCCESS WOULD CONSIDER THIS OLD, CLOUT CHASING AND PATHETIC BUT NOISY NO LIFE/LOW LIFE MOFUKKAZ ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW..I DON'T CARE..
@@tcincali9642 but crooked even said that even when slaughterhouse was finally off of shady records, joe and royce still moved the goal post
@@ghostdog6193 correct me if I’m wrong , didn’t crook say they’ve been off shady for over a yr ?
Lol, Joe kills me every time. I feel like he should just let it go... The album is going to be fire with him or without
They aren’t going by slaughterhouse the album is called the rise and fall of slaughterhouse. Joe doesn’t rap I don’t see the problem. Its not a slaughterhouse project it can’t be without the 4.
Exactly
Joe keeps a good YES man or 2.
I feel joe, but man I'm a die hard Slaughterhouse fan. I've put many guys on Slaughterhouse. So with that being said, I just wanna hear Slaughterhouse even if it's 2 or 3. So what Crook and Joell is doing that puts a smile on my face still. I could be Royce and Joe I'm still in
They did a confession, they burned a pig.
Say what you will about this situation... But Joe is fucking hilarious
This is something Joe would say if it was him doing it lmao
The video and song is dope tho, so it's only funny if you never heard/saw it.
True that
@@JDean-oe1ux Facts. The song is fire......and kinda sad really.
@@JDean-oe1ux oh i heard vacancy... which is why "they wrote a confession" is so fucking hilarious
Bc thats how joe interpretted it.. given the situation.
Its silly to think people didnt listen to a song, when its you who missed out on a joke lmfao. Esp if the song is being talked about in the video.
At what point do you look at all of your situations as a collective and realize that you are the common denominator? Yeah Joe is funny and entertaining at times, but man he moves extremely weird. I might give you the benefit of doubt on the first 5 controversies or so, but eventually I'm going to question why do you have so many falling outs (especially with close friends). I like Joe, but he isn't someone I would trust or rely on if he was someone in my everyday life.
Wow well put & I agree man I was a fan but at this point he’s clearly the problem, Mal & Rory, Peter Rosenberg, Joel & Crooked, Eminem
How is it that you are talking as if you know Joe Budden personally? Man you do not know Joe personally nor his life nor what he is going through in his life. So stop it. Stop the assumption
@@FaithfulOverF3w It is crazy that you will actually agree with someone who talks like he knows Joe personally including his life, how he moves and what he goes through in his life. How do you agree with someone like that? Wow. this is crazy
@@ThagreatbigT I don't need to know someone personally to figure out someone treats people like shit if everybody from bandmates, girlfriends, and close friends are all saying eventually he treated them like shit. I mean over the course of his career just look how many bags he's fucked up.
@@MrAfriKa I see you changed your stage name from Nathan Smith to Mr. Afrika interesting how a lot of y'all function on the net to sow some type of seeds and confusion as well as division. Again you just proved my point, you talk like you know him or you are in his inner circle. You really think you know the industry more than Joe? Again stop with the assumption. if you are not in that inner circle nor in New Jersey to go ask him or any of them a question if you are a fan then stop it.
Joe is the PROBLEM. That pull up he did with crook never aired!! Gee I wonder why. The group is no longer with shady and how retired!! If he wanted to come back and do a slaughterhouse album nothing is stopping him. I don't think I've ever heard joe say anything was his fault
Slaughterhouse brand has been dead for a decade now. Joe dipped out with a beef. Everybody has to do what's right for them and that's how you support your brothers right?
"you know what else is trash?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So that's it now huh joe , podcasting is more important than expressing ur craft , your feelings, your story , vs talking about bullshit we all know u hate , don't talk about it , make music about it, what last forever more , music or podcasts ,
I fux with Joe, but he needs to take some accountability fam. First Mal and Rory now Crook and Joell? Dudes looked up and realized that 10 years later their bag potential in a particular venture was put on hold. Slaughterhouse has been a dead issue, Crook and Joell just decided to make it an official announcement by way of bars and music for the fans.
Joe already said slaughterhouse was officially dead in episode 160 and he said he was the one to blame for it so wtf is crook & joell saying about “were here to officially kill off slaughterhouse” theyre desperate and its pathetic
@@Ontheish Ok, well if Joe already knew that Slaughterhouse was dead, he shouldn't be upset that a couple of members decided to do an autopsy. Besides you know dead rappers/rap projects get better promotion. Joe and Royce have gotten bags. Let Crook and Joell get theirs. It's rough out here, especially for lyrical MCs.
This ish is disgusting Joe, take some accountability for your groups breaking up they way they do. There is a common denominator here....
Exactly. Everyone else can’t be wrong
Joe Budden: Im not doing SH if its on shady records
Crooked I: Shady records released SH from the label in 2021
Joe Budden: Still not doing SH
Crooked I & Joell: Cool, we'll do it ourselves
Joe Budden: 😭
Mad corny
Cut it out man...you're retired!!! We love you Joe but the world don't revolve around you. I would have been even happier if Royce was apart of it too but you guys came together as a group and we loved the group -- not just the individuals. Crook been the main anchor and reaching out to all of y'all to get something final for the fans man. If you wanted to rap, I'm sure the beats were there to contribute. Don't be mad when the show goes on without you.
You sound like u dont know whats going on….
If missing the point was a person...
Why doesnt joe have the right to be upset when joell is sticking his middle finger up and saying “fuck you joe” in the video? And i just watched episode 2 of their bum ass series and theyre taking shots at joe in the songs foh joell & crook are desperate and its pathetic that theyre trying to hold on to the most relevant part of their careers which was 10 years ago
Boy ... ch'ass up
😐Joe is just as involved in the group as the rest. The idea of Joe "not being involved" just shows how much you don't understand Joe and Royce's stance on the matter.
Joe the reason The Whole Slaughterhouse situation is fucked up.. The Nerve of this dude....
They did a confessional, they burned a pig 😂 Slaughterhouse was supposed to be against the gimmicks and it’s all gimmicks now. Miss me with the Gossip Girl moves.
I miss Mal & Rory.
Joe can't really speak on the issue because he the same dude FIRED AN INVISIBLE RORY AND MAL LIVE ON AIR. LOL
Joe preached... Show Must Go On!!! We can't stop the show for ya'll two.
Now he want Crook and Joel to stick it out and wait around. SMH
Joe got multiple personalities
Big.Fax
"KNOW WHAT ELSE IS CORNY??"😂😂. Joe is freakin hilarious😂
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It’s so refreshing to see the comment section shining a light on joes egomania
I find it funny that Joe is experiencing right here, EXACTLY what Nicki Minaj was going through in 2018-2020 during the hate train. And it’s what she was tryna say when they spoke on their original interview on the JBP podcast (Ps. They have a new interview coming next week)…. She felt like she stayed quiet long enough & then when ppl lie on you & your name for soooo long, there’s only so much u can let go, before u need to defend yourself & your name! But the problem is, when ppl are looking for a response. Any response is a “loss” & seen as a negative in the public eye. That’s why no matter what Nicki said or did, the public wasn’t gonna accept it at that time. It’s said - but Joe is learning the same thing in this moment , & I hope he realizes that & has some empathy for what Nicki was tryna say to him back in that interview.
Good call back
Ain’t nobody lying on either one of they toxic ass Nikki got caught being a hater and joe mad the show must go on
Sheesh, I remember Joe Budden TV back in the Tahiri days lol.
we need a reunion.
Nah, we don't.
only the real ones enjoyed slaughterhouse album and i dont believe this "retired" bullshit. Ya'll would rather see grown men mad at each other.
"Don't Talk About Me Over Pulled Pork" is Nasty 😭😂
The positive teaching moment in this is…You been said YOUR part about your reasons why YOU ain’t wanna do the Slaughterhouse anymore…so it’s okay to let the others say how they feel about it…nobody desperate and just tryna get a bag …then two still rap so why wouldn’t they want to be compensated for it…your buddies right there basically saying you’ve already spoke on it enough…. And you can explode all you want too lol….you ain’t the only one grenade like hahahaha…
and I’m a fan of yours Joe…your music got me and I’m sure many in these comments thru some real stuff man…let them do them…you been doing you brother…. I think maybe you are just so far done with that situation, that you don’t wanna hear any aspect of it …Peace.
@@kwanzito562 it's not that he doesn't want them to speak it's that the rollout is based on dissing SH and Joe in particular to get joe to react and give the album more promo. They are trying to exploit that relationship. Joe had both of them on to promote their previous album.
@@PardonMyPresence Nah…that ain’t it ..they are not dissing Joe..they are reminiscing over some times and telling stories that Joe was in…when have you ever heard a Joe story and it not be funny?
I get that people don’t like the “burning of the pig “ …but if it’s over…it’s over….price just went up on the merch
Hate to see this for Slaughterhouse but people gotta eat and can’t wait on Joe and Royce.
I get what Crooked was trying to do, but he should've went with a different album name to avoid the controversy.
I remember when Joe buddens called the cops on ransom telling them he had an illegal gun after he started the beef. Anyone who was cool with him after that deserves everything lol
Joell Ortiz impersonation of Joe was so on point its all I hear now
Joe had beef with Shady then retired. How is he mad they are putting slaughterhouse to bed when it's been over for almost a decade and he was a large part of why the train stopped.
But its not slaughterhouse if its just 2 out of 4. they could have renamed the album
Joe said I'll round out the top 5, throw it to me coach 😂😂😂
Joe thinking to himself "the other two would have let me ripped them".
The funny thing is that these current two continued the show when the other two were having a dispute
The teachable moment being stop addressing stuff on the podcast. Joe be letting his emotions drive him instead of trying to really fix the situation with people who you considered brothers at one point, he talks about they doin stuff for a bag but the moment he gets on the podcast and tries to address it he’s doing it for a bag because the drama is what makes the view count go up and he knows that.
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