Hey Jeff, what does the power consumtion look like for this system, minus the drives? This board is very interesting, but for us over here in Europe, eletricity bills are a factor not to be trifled with :) Seeing as it has so many things integrated, I would guess it draws less than a "normal" x99 motherboards + PCIe cards for networking and storage.
the 2680v4 is a 120w tdp chip on it's own, probably often running a bit above that. But yeah the integrated chips should draw less than pcie add in cards. Likely making it better than other x99 boards. But honestly if you're in a country with higher power costs realistically that's a bad comparison, and you should probably be comparing it to slightly more expensive newer components that are way more efficient. And just trying to work with a bit less expandability. Unless you need something this specifically offers. Paying just a bit more for a 10th gen intel i7 or Ryzen 7 3700x or a 12th gen i5 or Ryzen 5 5600 tier chips give you similar multithreaded performance; way more single threaded, and for less power
While not exactly the same spec my C612 based nas with HP Z440 mobo and a 250W 80+ Gold psu and 3 seagate exos x12 12TB consumes 50-60W. Keep in mind that for idle your cpu and ram don't matter much, at least for intel (in case of ryzen the difference in idle power usage between monolithic and chiplet designs is huge).
@@daymianhogue1634 - I think the more interesting potential is if you pair this with a Pi KVM that can physically turn the computer on from a powered off state, by jumping the pins on the motherboard (same as hitting the power button). This means you could leave the server powered off most of the time, and only turn it on as needed. You could have a really beefy, power hungry server for rendering, AI workloads, and automated backups, and just leave it turned off when you're not using it.
@@arthurwintersight7868 even then it's less performance, for more power... And that kind of strategy invalidates it's for a lot of uses, plus again you could add a similar kvm set up to the newer system too to gain the same benefits.
@@aluxannar what chip are you using to have that low of power consumption or is that idle power consumption? And hedt Intel systems usually use only slightly less than Ryzen chiplets at idle due to the ringbus. And it's still often not that much, to the point it really should only be a priority if you know youre gonna be at idle a ton relative to the active power usage differential.
As nother european viewer I'd like to also emphasize the importance of information about power consumption: If the board uses just 30W more than a modern alternative, that difference will cost me more than the price of the motherboard PER YEAR to run. So the cost of running a homelab is incredibly power usage sensitive for us over here.
when I saw those boards months ago I was wondering when I would see your video about it. Good to see a late entry to the "weird 2011 board from aliexpress" series
Weird overbuilt boards like this would be interesting for more power efficient platforms like socket 1151 but i guess we dont have enough pcie lanes for quiet that big of a feature set
That's a really cool motherboard but the coolest thing I took away from this video was "Fractal is still producing the Node 804". Looks like they even updated the logo on the front panel. I love that case, and I'm still using it for my own NAS. Just kinda wish it didn't have an acrylic window.
Thanks Jeff. My EPYC server died and I've been dragging my heels replacing it because everything is so expensive. But even I can afford $115. Power consumption was the only red flag but I can live with 80W idle. I can even use my existing RAM and case.
You mentioned plex. I'd like to see a video series on everything plex, from how to set up a streaming device to send media to an older HDMI supported TV, to VM installation and transcoding, etc. I don't know much about it, but I'd like to learn it.
Aaaaaand bought. This will hopefully replace my "old" (it's only a few months old) server/NAS build which was also a Craft Computing video - the Erying board with a built-in mobile CPU. The board I got has an i7-11700 and it's been good, but this one will allow me to have more RAM and actually be able to utilize one or more of the PCIe slots for a GPU. Not to mention the 2.5 gig networking.
i run same motherboard and buy 2 and put inside Jonsbo N5 case. 2 Node NAS kinda nice for my Home Lab needs. Setup already running 3 month non stop so far works find with my SAS pcie card.
My server is also in a Nod 804!! I love it! Its currently setup with my old Ryzen 5 2600 running proxmox with a truenas vm with 3x 4tb nas hdds on an hba card Im still looking for a slim line Blu-ray drive for the front panel
I have this series of drive. They have a version that don’t require to block pin 3 or do any mods to drive or the PSU they just works I recommend to check them out before buying to make sure you get the right version
thank you so much. This is what I was looking for a long time now. I trust you with this and will replace my electricity hungry DL380. Just one question, is this one enough to host one Enshrouded Server and one Aska Server at the same time? And also a true nas server?
it's so frustrating. on one side there are the older server parts that offer a proper number of pcie lanes but perform poorly and require lots of power compared to modern architecture. on the other side is modern consumer hardware with great performance and performance per watt but chronically skimp on pcie lanes. or one pays an arm and a leg and goes with modern workstation/server hardwre...
this board/cpu at the price is so tempting. was just pricing out a budget am5 nas build which would be new and high power but just overkill for proxmox,plex, truenas
riser cables so the pci 16x fits over the sata cables. or right angle cables etc. and power should be okish, intel idles pretty good most the time. save the cash and get 2x 2x4's and bolt all your parts to that save the money you spent on the case :P. I moved to just bolting my mobo to underside of my desk these days, no dust under there and cheaper anyway ^_^
Okay here's my pitch: My personal holy grail machine, the all in one-er of NAS / Forbidden Router / VM host do everything one-shot home server box! One machine to rule them all.
I could see this being an AMAZING little second pc for streamers, pair it with a b580, capture card and a few tb of storage for recording the stream to later edit the videos or upload the vod at higher resolution
If this board was Full ATX it could move those SATA ports lower and allow at least 1 full length 2-3 slot PCIe card. That & native SAS support would make this board a must purchase for a couple of projects I am working on.
Hello, I am runing a 2683 v4, fells slow in docker containers. Loading times of home pages of radarr, jellyfin are about 3-10 seconds. While using nvme storage and cpu usage is low with more than 16 GB of ram available of 128GB. Is that because low frequencies?
all very interesting. I would like to understand the consumption of this configuration. both in idle and at full load. also you did not talk about optimized software on the nas side perhaps in eco mode if insertable. friend I ask you this because my asrock x99 has performance, normal and eco modes also based on the processor. and the consumption on server h24 we need to understand how to manage all that energy. a second episode where you talk about consumption and network transfer speed would be great, it would be really useful. as well as how to manage firewalls etc. thanks in advance
It's not pretty, but you can clip the side of the sata and power connectors so they fit on a SAS drive. Have done it, and they've been working just fine for 4 years at this point.
currently looking into the 3647 platform, found a few nice deals on used supermicro-boards and the xeon Gold seems to be dirt cheap; wonder how that compares to the 2011-3
I would love a product stack that fit somewhere between consumer ryzen (am4 or am5) cpus and threadripper/low end epyc cpus for homelab and smb uses. I dont need monster core/thread count chips with several hundred watt tdps per socket but I would love a platform that offered ~16 modern cores binned for efficiency with 32-64 pcie lanes and motherboards laid out to properly take advantage of that. My homelab is very well served by an 8 core ryzen 7 with a 35w tdp, but I am absolutely limited by the expandability of that setup
The C612 chipset does support it when using a Xeon CPU while the consumer X99 chipset is more hit and miss. I really depends on the firmware/BIOS of the manufacturer to enable it.
Ide love to see cloud gaming performance on this. My dual e5-26xx nas with a 3060 12gb is abysmall and I cant figure out why. Then moonlight and sunshine stutter/chug a lot :(
Because they won't spin up when Pin 3 is connected. Pin 3 supplies 3.3v off consumer power supplies, while it's only supplied momentarily on server backplanes.
I run the same CPU in my p410 upgraded from the e5-1603 v4. It seems perfect for a rtx 4060 or lower gpu's since I don't see a lot of performance loss compared to a lot of Benchmarks I've watched. It can play pretty much everything at 1440p and recently Dead Island 2 at 4k at 80fps The limitation so far is S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 at 1440p on launch wich is a cpu killer . The p410 with 2680 v4 with a 1060 rog strix cost 250$ for the whole system . Thanks Jeff for the Xeon info , its a great platform for a small budget that decimates any Acer nitro .
I have similar system at home, would love to see what you do with this build. I was looking to turn my NAS-ish machine into a multimedia editing station by adding a quadro P5000 or possibly an AI system with a couple of tesla P4's. Please continue making these types of videos.
I built something smaller from Temu, and passed a NVMe drive (first one or it doesn't boot on proxmox), the usb controllers, an RTX 4060, and the onboard audio card to a windows 11 VM with Proxmox 8.3 running a virtual TPM. Surprisingly windows 11 is not concerned with this, and all seems to be working well. Be interesting if you can rep[licate on your server there.
Great video. Like others have said it would be good to test power consumption but also it would be good if you could test them to see what types of ECC RAM they support (REG, LRDIMM) as well as check whether the reporting works. I have read with some Ryzen boards correct memory errors but don't report them.
How well do those intel arc gpu's handle plex? I have been thinking about an upgrade on my plex server. currently using a 1060 but I no stream much over 1080p
Edit: Would love to see more information about power consumption with that board. Got a couple of 2630Lv3 that'd be perfect for this. To disable the 3rd pin, you can also use a MOLEX to SATA adapter (1x to 4x) since the MOLEX connector doesn't power that pin.
I'm fine with the no IPMI, it's always a bloated and buggy thing even on "big brand" servers. Does this board support serial redirection? That's all I need, I pipe that to a small ARM device with Linux so I can control it through ssh
@@davismccoy77 yeah you wish everything was using redfish. Anwyay I meant the hardware device not the protocol. All servers from Dell/HPE/Lenovo/Fujitsu/Huawei/whatever still have a management device that provides a web interface to control the server.
P.S. Mr. craft im looking to build a multiplatform computer server hogi built . How do I go about getting the large casing-mother board and the needed accsessories to create this bogus machine ? Im willing to buy/purchase .
For a purely NAS budget build, I would consider an ASUS P9-C/4L with a pike 2108 over this; they can be had for under $100 used or just over $100 new on AliExpress. It supports Haswell E3-V3 Xeons and up to Core i7's (up to 8 threads, either way), dual channel ECC DDR3, comes with an aspeed VGA chip, has the option for IPMI (although, if you buy the adapter, at that point you're coming up on the $150 mark), front panel USB 3, etc. With the pike 2108, you have your choice of 6 SATA and 8 additional SATA/SAS capable ports without physically blocking any of the PCIe or PCI slots. The compromises, IMO, are: it is a full size ATX board, rather than mATX, no M.2 support and it doesn't have a POST code display; I can live without those, for the price.
I should have chosen this mobo for my P40 GPU rig build. The AST2400 on this board would have saved me the headache of fitting another GPU just for a video output.
Props. I can't even remember the last time I learned something new about non-gaming hardware from a UA-cam video. I stay pretty current with that stuff. However, I was totally unaware of the 3.3v "feature" on enterprise drives, nor the simple fix for it.
Thanks for the Video. I had this motherboard with the 2680v4 bundle in my Shopping cart for about four months and waited for a good review of it. There is also a Version with 4 2.5g NICs now
This is an interesting board. The listing is sadly not very good though. If you chose mobo+cpu+ram it isnt clear what you get. I THINK youj get 4 used sticks of ram, but not sure if its 4x4gb or 4x16gb. Wish they had an uption to upgrade to 4x32 also!
You stated that 1st gen Ryzen puts the 2680 v4 "on-notice" in multi-threading, then show that the 3700X (4th gen Ryzen) just narrowly beats it in multi-core performance.
Context is important. When the Ryzen 1700 launched, it was only a couple percentage points slower than Intel's 5980X, and it was faster than the Xeon 2667 v3, both of which were 8-Core / 16-thread parts. The comment about the Ryzen 3700X is stating that AMD's Zen 2 8-Core CPU is faster in multithreading than Intel's 14-Core chip, and if you need fast single threaded performance, the 2680 v4 may not be your best bet.
Great build! But that made me remember of the absurd import taxes of my country! I'm better work like no tomorrow, because if I dream of build any these I may pay 92% directly to government. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone!
Currently running a X99-D8 with a E5-2630V3 running proxmox + 5 vms inc Blue iris, Linux, truenas, openwrt and HA. 2 x GPU (1 for pass thru Plex),1 x 10G and 1x HBA, 6 x 3.5" drives and 3xSSD 2.5" drive + 1 x NVME. idles (with my normal workload) @ 130W. Wouldnt take much of an overall power saving to man maths justify a swap - shame I cant buy without CPU or RAM - I dont need a CPU TDP uplift. the X99 D8 has been rock solid but no HBA and an extra NVME......
okie dokie - next video series… now add (1) home brew SFF router with PFsense/OPNsense, (2) DNS service and add-blocker, and (3) 2.5gbe switch. there ya go - desktop homelab and full network mgt and sys-admin playground.
Extreme overkill. Well unless you happen to have an entire crate worth of nvme (you can fit quite a lot in pcie slots, there are even 8 drives expansion cards) and 3.5" drives, that you also actually need to be quickly accessible.
Hey Jeff, what does the power consumtion look like for this system, minus the drives? This board is very interesting, but for us over here in Europe, eletricity bills are a factor not to be trifled with :) Seeing as it has so many things integrated, I would guess it draws less than a "normal" x99 motherboards + PCIe cards for networking and storage.
the 2680v4 is a 120w tdp chip on it's own, probably often running a bit above that. But yeah the integrated chips should draw less than pcie add in cards. Likely making it better than other x99 boards. But honestly if you're in a country with higher power costs realistically that's a bad comparison, and you should probably be comparing it to slightly more expensive newer components that are way more efficient. And just trying to work with a bit less expandability. Unless you need something this specifically offers. Paying just a bit more for a 10th gen intel i7 or Ryzen 7 3700x or a 12th gen i5 or Ryzen 5 5600 tier chips give you similar multithreaded performance; way more single threaded, and for less power
While not exactly the same spec my C612 based nas with HP Z440 mobo and a 250W 80+ Gold psu and 3 seagate exos x12 12TB consumes 50-60W. Keep in mind that for idle your cpu and ram don't matter much, at least for intel (in case of ryzen the difference in idle power usage between monolithic and chiplet designs is huge).
@@daymianhogue1634 - I think the more interesting potential is if you pair this with a Pi KVM that can physically turn the computer on from a powered off state, by jumping the pins on the motherboard (same as hitting the power button). This means you could leave the server powered off most of the time, and only turn it on as needed. You could have a really beefy, power hungry server for rendering, AI workloads, and automated backups, and just leave it turned off when you're not using it.
@@arthurwintersight7868 even then it's less performance, for more power... And that kind of strategy invalidates it's for a lot of uses, plus again you could add a similar kvm set up to the newer system too to gain the same benefits.
@@aluxannar what chip are you using to have that low of power consumption or is that idle power consumption? And hedt Intel systems usually use only slightly less than Ryzen chiplets at idle due to the ringbus. And it's still often not that much, to the point it really should only be a priority if you know youre gonna be at idle a ton relative to the active power usage differential.
imo this is the type of content that brought me to this channel in the first place xD ty for keeping x99 relevant in 2025
I would also chime into the other comments asking for the idle and stress load power consumption. Do you have any rough data?
I appreciate these hardware necromany episodes
As nother european viewer I'd like to also emphasize the importance of information about power consumption: If the board uses just 30W more than a modern alternative, that difference will cost me more than the price of the motherboard PER YEAR to run. So the cost of running a homelab is incredibly power usage sensitive for us over here.
no way 30W! no way 30W will cost 100 quid a year
UK here, 30W would cost about £68 running 24*7*365. But more expensive electricity exists elsewhere.
I have this motherboard my system is using 135W in avage.
I live in Germany and 30 Watt would cost me 123 Euro (128 USD) running 24*365.
It would be like $70 in Poland and that's a lot. As a true central european country, we have eastern wages and western prices :D
12x 12 TB Drives for only $840 ?? You live in paradise man. Here in Sweden those same drives would cost me $1969 with shipping.
Theyre used
@@MrFl0rp still! In Germany: 139€ (~144USD) per old recertified Seagate 12TB Ironwolf or 12TB Enterprise Capacity so close to 1728USD as well
@RawmanFilm wow. Thats crazy.
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The refurbished HDD drive prices are going up after many youtubers started advertising serverpartdeals
I like this kind of hardware. Some people are on a very tight budget. For me it's a wonderful piece of hardware it has everything that i want.
Oh, I have been looking at this for a while. I'm looking at adding a L cpu sku & using it as a media server.
Thanks for the review.
..an idle power consumption is always welcome
I expect this to draw at least 80-90watts idle without any drives, probably more
Yes..if 90wats is correct this is useless for a Server these days
It’ll be AT LEAST 80W. With a 8 core v4 CPU the lowest I can get on an Asus X99 is 80W with 1 DIMM, 1 SATA SSD and no video.
@@zstation64the lowest I've seen is 75w so this lines up with my experience
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when I saw those boards months ago I was wondering when I would see your video about it. Good to see a late entry to the "weird 2011 board from aliexpress" series
Just when I declare X99 a dead platform, they pull me right back in with lower prices and more features!
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Weird overbuilt boards like this would be interesting for more power efficient platforms like socket 1151 but i guess we dont have enough pcie lanes for quiet that big of a feature set
That's a really cool motherboard but the coolest thing I took away from this video was "Fractal is still producing the Node 804". Looks like they even updated the logo on the front panel.
I love that case, and I'm still using it for my own NAS. Just kinda wish it didn't have an acrylic window.
Love your choice of drink! Belgian Quads have a special place in my heart...
Thanks Jeff. My EPYC server died and I've been dragging my heels replacing it because everything is so expensive. But even I can afford $115. Power consumption was the only red flag but I can live with 80W idle. I can even use my existing RAM and case.
A 3900X would kick it into next week with half the power and wouldnt cost much more.
@@mycosys Show me where I can get an AM4+3900X for not much more than $115 which runs under 65W.
Hey Jeff, thanks a lot for the video! This is the content I like most.
You mentioned plex. I'd like to see a video series on everything plex, from how to set up a streaming device to send media to an older HDMI supported TV, to VM installation and transcoding, etc. I don't know much about it, but I'd like to learn it.
Aaaaaand bought. This will hopefully replace my "old" (it's only a few months old) server/NAS build which was also a Craft Computing video - the Erying board with a built-in mobile CPU. The board I got has an i7-11700 and it's been good, but this one will allow me to have more RAM and actually be able to utilize one or more of the PCIe slots for a GPU. Not to mention the 2.5 gig networking.
i run same motherboard and buy 2 and put inside Jonsbo N5 case. 2 Node NAS kinda nice for my Home Lab needs. Setup already running 3 month non stop so far works find with my SAS pcie card.
My server is also in a Nod 804!! I love it!
Its currently setup with my old Ryzen 5 2600 running proxmox with a truenas vm with 3x 4tb nas hdds on an hba card
Im still looking for a slim line Blu-ray drive for the front panel
I have this series of drive. They have a version that don’t require to block pin 3 or do any mods to drive or the PSU they just works
I recommend to check them out before buying to make sure you get the right version
How common is this issue? I have my eyes on some Seagate Exos drives and this is the first I've heard of this problem.
thank you for the info, very valuable
@@AidenPryde3025 I always use exos drives for my home NAS and they last for years without any problem, on Amazon the 8TB is the sweet spot brand new.
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Very common especially on enterprise drive but if WD has version that requires this I think everyone has one
I have the exact same motherboard it have been running my Unraid server for the last 4 months without any problems. So I can recommend it.
Thank you for this! I saw these the other day but didn’t want to roll the dice, think I will now!
Can you bifurcate the PCIe x16 slots to be four x4 lanes? So you can use the four port NVMe card? You mentioned the card but not the layout.
Yes, bifurcation is supported on all three PCIe slots.
Xeon silver and Xeon gold CPUs are getting very cheap, it'd be great if you could make a video about AliExpress motherboards for these newer chips 😃
I don't even need this and its caught my eye.
try xeon e5 2697A v4 if the vrm can keep up with it please
Out of curiosity : Why were the first parts of the HDD barcodes/numbers blurred out?
Did I miss the power usage or was it not shown?
thank you so much. This is what I was looking for a long time now. I trust you with this and will replace my electricity hungry DL380. Just one question, is this one enough to host one Enshrouded Server and one Aska Server at the same time? And also a true nas server?
it's so frustrating. on one side there are the older server parts that offer a proper number of pcie lanes but perform poorly and require lots of power compared to modern architecture. on the other side is modern consumer hardware with great performance and performance per watt but chronically skimp on pcie lanes. or one pays an arm and a leg and goes with modern workstation/server hardwre...
You don't need many lanes to drive HDDs. Especially if it's gen 4
@@vadnegru Many HBAs that still run SAS2008 or similar have PCI-E2.0 8x. if you have one that supports PCI-E3.0, x4 might suffice
The problem is pairing a GPU or literally anything else in one box.
@@badharrow i used 2,5gigabit pci-e 2.0 1x card for this reason, n100 has only a few lanes to spare. But has a nixe decode encode engine
this board/cpu at the price is so tempting. was just pricing out a budget am5 nas build which would be new and high power but just overkill for proxmox,plex, truenas
riser cables so the pci 16x fits over the sata cables. or right angle cables etc. and power should be okish, intel idles pretty good most the time. save the cash and get 2x 2x4's and bolt all your parts to that save the money you spent on the case :P. I moved to just bolting my mobo to underside of my desk these days, no dust under there and cheaper anyway ^_^
Okay here's my pitch: My personal holy grail machine, the all in one-er of NAS / Forbidden Router / VM host do everything one-shot home server box! One machine to rule them all.
im from germany and cant find the board on aliexpress. The Link doesn't work for me. can you provide the unshortened link to the board?
I have a 5820k in a dead board, I wonder if I could repurpose it for this kinda thing.
Although I purchased the BKHD X99 board, this seems like the better option. Those extra DIMM slots and PCIe lanes sure would come in handy.
Power consumption? Happy New Year guys.
I could see this being an AMAZING little second pc for streamers, pair it with a b580, capture card and a few tb of storage for recording the stream to later edit the videos or upload the vod at higher resolution
If this board was Full ATX it could move those SATA ports lower and allow at least 1 full length 2-3 slot PCIe card. That & native SAS support would make this board a must purchase for a couple of projects I am working on.
So is there any odd network traffic calling home to China from any malware that may be baked into the firmware of any of the controllers on board?
That's why it was a relief, not a disappointment, that the ASPEED chip was there only to provide VGA.
Hello, I am runing a 2683 v4, fells slow in docker containers. Loading times of home pages of radarr, jellyfin are about 3-10 seconds. While using nvme storage and cpu usage is low with more than 16 GB of ram available of 128GB. Is that because low frequencies?
Yes. Since a lot of stuff doesnt actually use these extra cores...
all very interesting. I would like to understand the consumption of this configuration. both in idle and at full load. also you did not talk about optimized software on the nas side perhaps in eco mode if insertable. friend I ask you this because my asrock x99 has performance, normal and eco modes also based on the processor. and the consumption on server h24 we need to understand how to manage all that energy. a second episode where you talk about consumption and network transfer speed would be great, it would be really useful. as well as how to manage firewalls etc. thanks in advance
I am still on X99 for my main PC...part of me wants to "upgrade" to a 12+ core v4 CPU and the GPU and use it for a few more years.
Look for the Xeon E5-1681v3 10c cpu
Great Case,
I managed to fit 10 3.5 drives and 2 2,5 SSD within the case.
It's not pretty, but you can clip the side of the sata and power connectors so they fit on a SAS drive. Have done it, and they've been working just fine for 4 years at this point.
currently looking into the 3647 platform, found a few nice deals on used supermicro-boards and the xeon Gold seems to be dirt cheap; wonder how that compares to the 2011-3
I would love a product stack that fit somewhere between consumer ryzen (am4 or am5) cpus and threadripper/low end epyc cpus for homelab and smb uses. I dont need monster core/thread count chips with several hundred watt tdps per socket but I would love a platform that offered ~16 modern cores binned for efficiency with 32-64 pcie lanes and motherboards laid out to properly take advantage of that. My homelab is very well served by an 8 core ryzen 7 with a 35w tdp, but I am absolutely limited by the expandability of that setup
Would this make a good plex server or maybe just a nas storage for the plex server to access?
Cant find that board though
Would love to see PCI risers and any shenanigans you can get up to with those
wow very nice, what is the highest end CPU you could install on that motherboard?
2699v4. 22 core 44 thread. I have just ordered this motherboard with a 2698v4 20 core CPU for my backup unraid server.
@@dieseldes6578 thx
Does it support RDIMM? You could get lots of it for relatively cheap.
The C612 chipset does support it when using a Xeon CPU while the consumer X99 chipset is more hit and miss. I really depends on the firmware/BIOS of the manufacturer to enable it.
So are those normal drives or SAS drives?
Ide love to see cloud gaming performance on this. My dual e5-26xx nas with a 3060 12gb is abysmall and I cant figure out why. Then moonlight and sunshine stutter/chug a lot :(
This is the first I've heard of the pin issue on hard drives and consumer power supplies. How do you know if you need to tape those pins off?
Because they won't spin up when Pin 3 is connected. Pin 3 supplies 3.3v off consumer power supplies, while it's only supplied momentarily on server backplanes.
@@CraftComputing Sorry, should have been more clear. How do I know that any potential hard drives need the pins taped before I buy them?
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I am so here for this.
...but my pihole blocks the s.click.aliexpress link in the description :D
I run the same CPU in my p410 upgraded from the e5-1603 v4.
It seems perfect for a rtx 4060 or lower gpu's since I don't see a lot of performance loss compared to a lot of Benchmarks I've watched.
It can play pretty much everything at 1440p and recently Dead Island 2 at 4k at 80fps
The limitation so far is S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 at 1440p on launch wich is a cpu killer .
The p410 with 2680 v4 with a 1060 rog strix cost 250$ for the whole system . Thanks Jeff for the Xeon info , its a great platform for a small budget that decimates any Acer nitro .
I have similar system at home, would love to see what you do with this build. I was looking to turn my NAS-ish machine into a multimedia editing station by adding a quadro P5000 or possibly an AI system with a couple of tesla P4's. Please continue making these types of videos.
I've considered building something like this, but I want to know what the power draw of the build is at idle, and maxed out.
Great video, thanks Jeff, what is the power consumption like with this combo? Cheers.
I built something smaller from Temu, and passed a NVMe drive (first one or it doesn't boot on proxmox), the usb controllers, an RTX 4060, and the onboard audio card to a windows 11 VM with Proxmox 8.3 running a virtual TPM. Surprisingly windows 11 is not concerned with this, and all seems to be working well. Be interesting if you can rep[licate on your server there.
Great video. Like others have said it would be good to test power consumption but also it would be good if you could test them to see what types of ECC RAM they support (REG, LRDIMM) as well as check whether the reporting works. I have read with some Ryzen boards correct memory errors but don't report them.
You said the 804 wasn't the right solution for SAS drives with SATA power adapters. What case would you recommend for using drives like that?
well, at 36 cents/kWh where i live, this would cost far too much to run 24/7. i guess its an n100 and a 2 drive raid 1 for me...
How well do those intel arc gpu's handle plex? I have been thinking about an upgrade on my plex server. currently using a 1060 but I no stream much over 1080p
fine
Edit: Would love to see more information about power consumption with that board. Got a couple of 2630Lv3 that'd be perfect for this.
To disable the 3rd pin, you can also use a MOLEX to SATA adapter (1x to 4x) since the MOLEX connector doesn't power that pin.
But then you have a fire risk instead.
@ didn’t think about that since I use server backplates I don’t have that problem but that’s true of adapters.
Does this board require ECC ram? I know the CPU can support with/without but not clear from video or aliexpress page
Rather than block pins, I generally use molex to SATA connectors which seems to work well.
X99 for life. i feel like intel could get on track if they got back into HEDT.
I'm fine with the no IPMI, it's always a bloated and buggy thing even on "big brand" servers. Does this board support serial redirection? That's all I need, I pipe that to a small ARM device with Linux so I can control it through ssh
no one uses IPMI commercially anymore. It’s all redfish.
@@davismccoy77 yeah you wish everything was using redfish. Anwyay I meant the hardware device not the protocol. All servers from Dell/HPE/Lenovo/Fujitsu/Huawei/whatever still have a management device that provides a web interface to control the server.
I don't know. My supermicro and Asrock Rack ipmi work great.
No info on power consumption? 😢
P.S. Mr. craft im looking to build a multiplatform computer server hogi built . How do I go about getting the large casing-mother board and the needed accsessories to create this bogus machine ? Im willing to buy/purchase .
Why do you need to blur out the serial num of the drive?
Multiple people who've been sponsored by serverpart deals have done it. I believe it's something they request.
that 3,2,1 Backup shirt is one of the most evil visual puns i have seen
I was gonna say I get the urge to put three P4:s in that one. Oooor... five with two x16 to dual x8 adapters 😛
For a purely NAS budget build, I would consider an ASUS P9-C/4L with a pike 2108 over this; they can be had for under $100 used or just over $100 new on AliExpress. It supports Haswell E3-V3 Xeons and up to Core i7's (up to 8 threads, either way), dual channel ECC DDR3, comes with an aspeed VGA chip, has the option for IPMI (although, if you buy the adapter, at that point you're coming up on the $150 mark), front panel USB 3, etc. With the pike 2108, you have your choice of 6 SATA and 8 additional SATA/SAS capable ports without physically blocking any of the PCIe or PCI slots. The compromises, IMO, are: it is a full size ATX board, rather than mATX, no M.2 support and it doesn't have a POST code display; I can live without those, for the price.
I should have chosen this mobo for my P40 GPU rig build. The AST2400 on this board would have saved me the headache of fitting another GPU just for a video output.
How does this compare to the AMD board you got before?
Where is the idle power draw timestamp?
Props. I can't even remember the last time I learned something new about non-gaming hardware from a UA-cam video. I stay pretty current with that stuff. However, I was totally unaware of the 3.3v "feature" on enterprise drives, nor the simple fix for it.
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Thanks for the Video.
I had this motherboard with the 2680v4 bundle in my Shopping cart for about four months and waited for a good review of it.
There is also a Version with 4 2.5g NICs now
This is an interesting board. The listing is sadly not very good though. If you chose mobo+cpu+ram it isnt clear what you get. I THINK youj get 4 used sticks of ram, but not sure if its 4x4gb or 4x16gb. Wish they had an uption to upgrade to 4x32 also!
They make it pretty clear you get 4x 16GB sticks.
Honestly, the RAM combo isn't a great deal. I'd shop for that on eBay, or another seller on Ali. But the Board and CPU are an amazing value.
You stated that 1st gen Ryzen puts the 2680 v4 "on-notice" in multi-threading, then show that the 3700X (4th gen Ryzen) just narrowly beats it in multi-core performance.
Context is important. When the Ryzen 1700 launched, it was only a couple percentage points slower than Intel's 5980X, and it was faster than the Xeon 2667 v3, both of which were 8-Core / 16-thread parts.
The comment about the Ryzen 3700X is stating that AMD's Zen 2 8-Core CPU is faster in multithreading than Intel's 14-Core chip, and if you need fast single threaded performance, the 2680 v4 may not be your best bet.
This would go well into a ZhenLoong-X86 case.
Great build! But that made me remember of the absurd import taxes of my country!
I'm better work like no tomorrow, because if I dream of build any these I may pay 92% directly to government. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone!
your link for serverpart deals is not working in description
I see computers and belgian beers, proud belgian guy here xD
Currently running a X99-D8 with a E5-2630V3 running proxmox + 5 vms inc Blue iris, Linux, truenas, openwrt and HA. 2 x GPU (1 for pass thru Plex),1 x 10G and 1x HBA, 6 x 3.5" drives and 3xSSD 2.5" drive + 1 x NVME. idles (with my normal workload) @ 130W. Wouldnt take much of an overall power saving to man maths justify a swap - shame I cant buy without CPU or RAM - I dont need a CPU TDP uplift. the X99 D8 has been rock solid but no HBA and an extra NVME......
okie dokie - next video series… now add (1) home brew SFF router with PFsense/OPNsense, (2) DNS service and add-blocker, and (3) 2.5gbe switch. there ya go - desktop homelab and full network mgt and sys-admin playground.
Can I use this as a pure TrueNAS build? Or would that be overkill/dumb?
Extreme overkill. Well unless you happen to have an entire crate worth of nvme (you can fit quite a lot in pcie slots, there are even 8 drives expansion cards) and 3.5" drives, that you also actually need to be quickly accessible.
where do I get this shirt?
My 28 core Xeon cost me $20. I already have a motherboard. Memory was dirt cheap... It ask cost less than a modern AM5 high view CPU
I would go for the latest aoostar box. 550 usd. Only 4 drive slots, but probably more powerful and efficient…
590 usd is a lot to end up with 2011 v3 aca huge power consumption...what you save you pay in powerbill over next 10 y
if i had the money i'd love to have a little hobby machine.
Certainly an interesting board.
Would this board support a 6850K?
Not TheNetGuy first
I'd use it for an unraid nas and media server.