lol. I was successful in installing 16gb on mine. Tested a lot of ram sticks before I found a brand that worked. And it performs great. Everywhere on youtube it said it couldn't be done. lol
I have the windows 11 model stream 14. I slapped an 8gb in there with win 10 2021 ltsc and it's honestly not a bad laptop and is very responsive. FWIW The 64gb emmc read/writes at 300/192mB/s and I don't think it's worth installing an nvme in the wifi slot as you are going to be bottle necked by the pci1 speeds.
2 things I have to disagree with in this video 1) Pointless Upgrade in the title, and 2) You state the "CPU is it's biggest limitation". For folks on a budget a cheap HP Stream can do more then you think!!! For $75 Canadian (guessing your Australian or a Kiwi), you can improve the Stream to run quicker and have ample Storage. Remove the WIFI/BT Module in favor of an Adapter that holds an NVME SSD at 128GB. Swap the Ram to the 8GB, and add a WIFI/BT low profile dongle. The built-in eMMC is it's Biggest Limitation, and it's biggest bottleneck!! The improvement of the Stream is amazing, I know as my 2017 HP Stream has new life as an everyday Laptop but I went over board on it's Upgrade swapping the display for a 1080p IPS panel as well. Anyway my point is with a little work and research you can turn HP E-Waste into a very good Laptop on a budget. So for people on a fixed income, Students, Elders buy a Used Stream, add a little work and cheap additions and save some money !!!!!!!
Even if you install Linux on these machines. The current weight of most web app/web site just eats the CPU anyway. I have an old Dell 6410 and it has a i7 and 8GB of ram. It fine running the desktop, even visual studio code etc. But the moment you open youtube. Game over.
i find there is basically no OS that will make these useful for the internet, i would think its due to a lack of instructions sets and also being such a low wattage
@@rickstechrepairs i bought a Dell latitude 3350 for £30 on ebay I5 3rd gen and runs internet really well can upgrade to 16gb ram and i7 i7 3632qm really cheap the old ivy bridge seems to run better than cheap modern processors. I wouldn't bother with windows 11 as they are still updates for windows 10
@@rickstechrepairs Agreed, I've tried a few different distros and as soon as I try to load youtube the cpu bottleneck shows its face. I currently have Tiny10 running on it after trying Linux Mint for a while, but with the eMMC being so small I was able to fill it up very quickly between Wine and steam/proton, and it wasn't easy trying to setup a steam library on a flash drive as it needed to be mounted with exec permissions to even show up as an option and even then the cpu just doesn't have the power for most games other than maybe 2d games like stardew valley/terraria maybe, and even then it depends on the engine, unity games from what I understand even when they look 2d are really 3d. You could probably emulate older consoles, and run DosBox but newer games especially with 3d are pretty much a no-go. On windows I can install software on external drives easily which helps with the storage limit. I admit I've somewhat curious if the onboard wifi to ssd adapter fix I've seen in another video would help performance at all other than maybe loading speed, it still probably wouldn't help much with youtube, though playback is good enough though it always lags when toggling full-screen.
Linux mint cinnamon runs on this laptop like a beast. Im surprised you even get windows to boot up, usually after updating windows os runs over 4gb ram and wont get me past the blue screen of death XD
@@rickstechrepairs The eMMC is the bottleneck, if it can not fill the RAM quick enough at 4GB it can not fill the RAM quick enough at 8GB either. Once you bypass the eMMC for an SSD then you see the improvement. Yes still a Celeron, still have stutters here and there but a Stream becomes quite useful.
@@BudgetBuildBarry I was just wondering about this, I saw a video on how to use a M.2 adapter to hook an SSD to the wifi card port, and was wondering if it'd make like /any/ difference in performance because the cpu seems to be the bottleneck in a lot of things like streaming videos. Not sure if that's because the cpu is busy waiting for stuff to load from the eMMC or if its just a piece of junk that's the cheapest thing they could put in it that would still /technically/ meet the minimum system requirements for 10. I'm pretty sure if it didn't have /some/ hardware video decoding support it might struggle to play youtube at all. Doing the math it'd be between $80-$90ish dollars to upgrade the RAM, get an adapter and 500 GB M.2 drive, and an external Wifi Adapter because you'd be replacing the onboard one. I'm honestly not sure if it's worth the cost.
I tried Linux Mint, AntiX, and Puppy Linux and while they helped(Puppy Linux was surpisingly /slower/ at loading webpages despite running in RAM probably because it used a lightweight browser that was built more for small resource usage than for speed). AntiX booted very quick and used very little resources but either I caught them at a bad time or they have a bad streak of major bugs in the distro, the first one I tried had a bugged installer that I had to run an update/upgrade before I could install and it took a /long/ time and then the sound was broken. A more recent version the sound works fine, maybe a newer kernal, but I think the repos have broken keys so installing and updating is broken. Mint seems to just work, though not as fast to boot or low on resources as AntiX. The hardware was still a major bottleneck and I easily filled up the eMMC drive with just software, and one of Linux's drawbacks is that unlike windows you can't really install software from the repos to a second drive, it wants all software on the system partition. I used Mint for a while but then gave Tiny10 a try and it surprisingly works halfway decent, not too much slower than linux really though I didn't really do any benchmarking so maybe there is a wider gap than I think. It also was nice that it only used around 10 GB on the drive if I remember compared to a full 10 install which takes like most of the drive.
@@MindCaged Yes it makes things a bit quicker, it is still a Celeron so not at all i3 or i5 like but with out eMMC apps open quicker!!! Things run better. My 2017 Stream went from can't run Win10 to Running Win10 well !!! eMMC is the System Bottleneck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol. I was successful in installing 16gb on mine. Tested a lot of ram sticks before I found a brand that worked. And it performs great. Everywhere on youtube it said it couldn't be done. lol
odd, can be done... not cost effective to be done
I have the windows 11 model stream 14. I slapped an 8gb in there with win 10 2021 ltsc and it's honestly not a bad laptop and is very responsive. FWIW The 64gb emmc read/writes at 300/192mB/s and I don't think it's worth installing an nvme in the wifi slot as you are going to be bottle necked by the pci1 speeds.
even then, this machine i couldn't recommend spending money on upgrading
2 things I have to disagree with in this video 1) Pointless Upgrade in the title, and 2) You state the "CPU is it's biggest limitation". For folks on a budget a cheap HP Stream can do more then you think!!! For $75 Canadian (guessing your Australian or a Kiwi), you can improve the Stream to run quicker and have ample Storage. Remove the WIFI/BT Module in favor of an Adapter that holds an NVME SSD at 128GB. Swap the Ram to the 8GB, and add a WIFI/BT low profile dongle. The built-in eMMC is it's Biggest Limitation, and it's biggest bottleneck!! The improvement of the Stream is amazing, I know as my 2017 HP Stream has new life as an everyday Laptop but I went over board on it's Upgrade swapping the display for a 1080p IPS panel as well. Anyway my point is with a little work and research you can turn HP E-Waste into a very good Laptop on a budget. So for people on a fixed income, Students, Elders buy a Used Stream, add a little work and cheap additions and save some money !!!!!!!
Even if you install Linux on these machines. The current weight of most web app/web site just eats the CPU anyway. I have an old Dell 6410 and it has a i7 and 8GB of ram. It fine running the desktop, even visual studio code etc. But the moment you open youtube. Game over.
i find there is basically no OS that will make these useful for the internet, i would think its due to a lack of instructions sets and also being such a low wattage
@@rickstechrepairs i bought a Dell latitude 3350 for £30 on ebay I5 3rd gen and runs internet really well can upgrade to 16gb ram and i7 i7 3632qm really cheap the old ivy bridge seems to run better than cheap modern processors. I wouldn't bother with windows 11 as they are still updates for windows 10
@@rickstechrepairs Agreed, I've tried a few different distros and as soon as I try to load youtube the cpu bottleneck shows its face. I currently have Tiny10 running on it after trying Linux Mint for a while, but with the eMMC being so small I was able to fill it up very quickly between Wine and steam/proton, and it wasn't easy trying to setup a steam library on a flash drive as it needed to be mounted with exec permissions to even show up as an option and even then the cpu just doesn't have the power for most games other than maybe 2d games like stardew valley/terraria maybe, and even then it depends on the engine, unity games from what I understand even when they look 2d are really 3d. You could probably emulate older consoles, and run DosBox but newer games especially with 3d are pretty much a no-go. On windows I can install software on external drives easily which helps with the storage limit.
I admit I've somewhat curious if the onboard wifi to ssd adapter fix I've seen in another video would help performance at all other than maybe loading speed, it still probably wouldn't help much with youtube, though playback is good enough though it always lags when toggling full-screen.
Linux mint cinnamon runs on this laptop like a beast. Im surprised you even get windows to boot up, usually after updating windows os runs over 4gb ram and wont get me past the blue screen of death XD
even then.. the celeron has no power to it at all
a complete waste of resources
@@rickstechrepairs The eMMC is the bottleneck, if it can not fill the RAM quick enough at 4GB it can not fill the RAM quick enough at 8GB either. Once you bypass the eMMC for an SSD then you see the improvement. Yes still a Celeron, still have stutters here and there but a Stream becomes quite useful.
@@BudgetBuildBarry I was just wondering about this, I saw a video on how to use a M.2 adapter to hook an SSD to the wifi card port, and was wondering if it'd make like /any/ difference in performance because the cpu seems to be the bottleneck in a lot of things like streaming videos. Not sure if that's because the cpu is busy waiting for stuff to load from the eMMC or if its just a piece of junk that's the cheapest thing they could put in it that would still /technically/ meet the minimum system requirements for 10. I'm pretty sure if it didn't have /some/ hardware video decoding support it might struggle to play youtube at all. Doing the math it'd be between $80-$90ish dollars to upgrade the RAM, get an adapter and 500 GB M.2 drive, and an external Wifi Adapter because you'd be replacing the onboard one. I'm honestly not sure if it's worth the cost.
I tried Linux Mint, AntiX, and Puppy Linux and while they helped(Puppy Linux was surpisingly /slower/ at loading webpages despite running in RAM probably because it used a lightweight browser that was built more for small resource usage than for speed). AntiX booted very quick and used very little resources but either I caught them at a bad time or they have a bad streak of major bugs in the distro, the first one I tried had a bugged installer that I had to run an update/upgrade before I could install and it took a /long/ time and then the sound was broken. A more recent version the sound works fine, maybe a newer kernal, but I think the repos have broken keys so installing and updating is broken. Mint seems to just work, though not as fast to boot or low on resources as AntiX.
The hardware was still a major bottleneck and I easily filled up the eMMC drive with just software, and one of Linux's drawbacks is that unlike windows you can't really install software from the repos to a second drive, it wants all software on the system partition.
I used Mint for a while but then gave Tiny10 a try and it surprisingly works halfway decent, not too much slower than linux really though I didn't really do any benchmarking so maybe there is a wider gap than I think. It also was nice that it only used around 10 GB on the drive if I remember compared to a full 10 install which takes like most of the drive.
@@MindCaged Yes it makes things a bit quicker, it is still a Celeron so not at all i3 or i5 like but with out eMMC apps open quicker!!! Things run better. My 2017 Stream went from can't run Win10 to Running Win10 well !!! eMMC is the System Bottleneck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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