Tate Forcier will always have a place in my heart as a Michigan fan. For any Michigan fans who see this and are younger. Go look up Illinois at Michigan 2010. And see the heart Tate put into that game. Wish him the very best wherever he is.
@@Whiskybuckeye honestly, and it pains me to admit this, DPJ would probably have been more successful at Ohio State, the way that y'all develop receivers.
Forcier wasn't a what if, he was a bust. He would be a what if had he shown the amazing potential he had in September of his freshman season then gotten hurt, but that's not what happened. He had plenty of opportunity and playing time but didn't play well, Michigan was loosing a ton of games, and he lost his job because of poor play and poor attitude. Also showing immaturity and lack of leadership by missing team meetings, having a huge ego when his play on the field didn't reflect him having the reason for the inflated ego and then handling his demotion poorly. He was a bust plain and simple, not a what if. A what if is when we were robbed of knowing how his career would have turned out if he didn't get injured or had something out of the ordinary derail his on the field play. Forcier was given ample playing time and opportunities to show he deserved to be the starting quarterback at Michigan, and his on the field play kept regressing to a point where he was no longer the best option on the team at quarterback to give his team the best chance to win. Denard Robinson took his opportunity and the ball and ran with it and never looked back. For whatever reasons Forcier couldn't do what he needed to do to get back on the field after transferring. Sorry to say, he isn't a "what if." We know what happened to him. He was a bust, plain and simple.
@@rdaws73 Or maybe play a power conference team. Wonder why the modern M program is so weak in bowls and against good teams.....hmmmm, real head scratcher. NO COMPETITION
@@RobJaskula Typical M miss judge. M needs more nobody like Haskins who become Jim Browns!! No titles w the McGuf of this world. That's why the teams w most 4/5 stars have all the NTs. One of their 5 stars flames out, several to take his place. Not so at M!
I was just a little kid when Forcier took over but I remember watching the Notre Dame game and my dad and I were both so hyped about him. It’s kind of depressing to hear about his downward spiral because I only really had positive memories of the guy but I guess we can’t all be winners.
I live 45 minutes from Ann Arbor and I remember watching Tate practice. For whatever reason, he chose to complete only 4 of his 11 attempts to open receivers.
Tate's younger brother Chris could have made it if was willing to switch to receiver. Chris was 6'3" and ran a 4.44 forty time. But when Rick Neuheisel switched him to receiver he transferred from UCLA to Fuhrman to keep playing QB.. The Forcier brothers didn't have the arm strength required to make it big at QB.
Not really. Marinovich was very good in college and made it to the NFL. This bum was good for a grand total of 4 games in college against 3 VERY weak programs
I used to have Michigan season tickets and from what I was told by students at the time was he spent more time partying and smoking. Sounds like a kid who was overly controlled by his Father, then when he got out from under him, he lost that focus.
Derrick Green also a big what if. I remember reading somewhere that Brady Hoke was in tears when he committed. But never showed the 5 star potential or at least the coaching staff couldn’t propel him
Which should have been his first indication that he shouldn’t have gone to Michigan. If you have aspirations to be an NFL QB you sure as hell don’t go to Michigan.
@@DisappearingNightlylol true. Before the bad old days of rich rod Michigan was solid for pro QBs. Including the GOAT. Michigan is getting back to that now. But they are also a running team, which scares some QBs away.
@@Rob2068 I think it shocks a lot of people to discover that over the past 40 years, Michigan is among the top five schools in the nation in terms of quarterbacks being drafted by NFL teams. My beef with the statement made in the post I was responding to is that it is, quite simply, factually incorrect.
His red flags were being homeschooled and preparing as a QB his entire life he didn’t learn anything at home and this led to his demise in the college classroom
Idk when he was homeschooled, but went to high school with his brother Chris. Tate ended up getting kicked out of school for stealing detention pads his sophomore year (straw that broke the camel’s back). Ended up at Scripps Ranch for his Junior year. His red flags have been present for a bit before college. Chris was a stud and pretty chill from what I remember
often times not much, home schoolers I've met are seldom dumb, but they have this weird sheltered view of the world that is often held back by their parents
I remember the excitement he brought to the game. It was a bad time for Michigan football and he gave us hope, but felt like he had to carry the team and it was too much for the young man. I wish him well! Go Blue!
Good info, Forcier was truly biggest mystery bust at M. I can still see him against the "tarnished Domers" run the read option, keep it and bust it rt up the middle fr about a 50 yrd run & td. Never heard a rumor even on why he lost it! With Denard and Gardner behind him, he had to produce or else! Or else got him!
I think, like Todd Marinovich, he just didn’t want to be a quarterback. He was beat over the head with it for so many years, non-stop, he grew to hate it. Once he hit a certain age, he rebelled and, in his head, he quit.
Remember Rich Rod and Forcier. The hype was crazy. Tate had brought some insane swag w/ him, but just flopped. Believe that’s when the Denard Robinson experience began
@@brettsullivan907 Maybe. I just remember Tate having mad swag and thinking he was gonna be a cold QB. Then he flopped worse than any hyped QB I seen. And Denard revitalized em. I don’t remember if Rich was still there or not. I imagine not or else he’d prob not have ever lost his job. Think that was Brady Hoke/Hope time. .
I had the privilege of meeting Tate and coach Rich Rodriguez and a couple of cheerleaders they sign my ball and I got pictures with them back in 2009 after the game
@@alberttate8198 I won't argue that but Chad Henne was a complete quarterback and it helped he has very talented teams around him including Braylon Edwards
He was in my class in high school. At least freshmen and sophomore prior to transferring to Scripps. His older brothers were legends and led us to some CIF titles. I remember he was the next one up after his brother Chris graduated but then the sudden transfer out. There were rumors he got in some kind of trouble as the reason but no one really knew
@csnide6702 the browns weren't the problem, didn't help though, his partying was the problem. He'll dallas was gonna give him a shot after being released, then his DV happened...with manziel, I actually think a bigger "What if" would be "what if manziel grew up poor and used his talents as a way out"
@@franquil85conn My only point with Brownies was that NOBODY on that coaching staff was going to get him where he needed to be -- he didn't play THAT bad with them all things considered... but the Brownies just were not patient enough.... but yes-- HE didn't help his cause either and didn't have the fire inside one would need in that situation.
@@csnide6702 he didn't play good at all...I'm a huge aggie fan and I was actually working in canton, Ohio at the time and went to his first preseason game...stadium was entirely behind manziel....I think the coaching staff wanted to be, but dig into it, he was being impossible and that matters....its like T.O....people put up with his bullshit until his numbers dipped....T.O. could have played many more years if he wasn't cancerous.....oh, and thought of another "what if"....What if the NIL was a thing in 2012...if manziel could have capitalized on it, do you think he leaves after 2 years? I mean he could have made millions at A&M
I remembered the name, but wasn’t sure about the time period. And then you mentioned Rich Rodriguez, and the lights came on. That whole era, from the time that Michigan “stole” him from West Virginia, through all of the struggles and potential high points, that turned into low points, Tate was the quintessential cherry 🍒 on top of the total disaster cake 🎂 that Rodriguez baked up in Ann Arbor, with a lot of help from the “we need to find our new Bo Schembechler!!!” crowd in the alumni association. Who knows what could have been 🤷♂️ But it seemed that whatever Rich tried to do, it blew up in his face. But it also sounded like Tate was his own worst enemy. Beginning with how he said he hated the training and discipline his dad made him and his brothers go through from a young age. Another Dad, trying to force his kids to live out “his” dreams. You can’t force someone to love something. And if you don’t actually love it “yourself”, you will never have the drive and grit it takes to be successful. I would say he got out of it, what he put into it. And it sounds like he was in over his head academically as well. Which also says something about what was being focused on in his home life at a young age. U of M is not easy school! They don’t call it the Harvard of the Midwest for nothing. Should have went to a community college first to see if all of that hype was worth it.
Looking back at those years isn't my favorite thing to do. But there were a lot of great players on those teams...shoelace, Gardner, lewan....sucks it didn't work out
Also, on an episode of Monday Morning Quarterback I remember Devin Gardner saying that when parties would happen at Tate's house everyone knew he'd have the best weed. I'm a fan of weed, but sounds like his priorities weren't straight.
@@packisbetter90 Thin skinned Carr sabotaged RR by telling every player to transfer so the cupboard was bare to start with fr RR. Then RRs gaff was not getting a proven D Coord. RRs O Ave over 30/game v puds but 18/game v stud teams. But RRs D gave up over 30!!!!
T.F. story is interesting. His family put up a website that really hyped him. During his time at UM, he uttered the statement that it is impossible to flunk out of UM. You just have to show up at class! Not a wise thing to say IMO. When he was benched at an OSU game at UM in 2009, I was there and viewed TF with a towel over his head. Yikes! This reminds me of the former OSU player who also flamed out: Tate Martell after much hype.
The Rodeguize and Hoke years were a disaster for everyone.. IT got worse with Devon Gardner... who was to big to fail. Insult to injury...Gardner entered the N*L Draft as a wide receiver
“Forcier could have been an amazing talent like Johnny Manzeil and Baker Mayfield but, unfortunately, many felt that his ego got in the way” Yeah…you have to be humble like Johnny Football and Baker Mayfield! Those guys would N E V E R allow their ego to affect locker room chemistry or affect their relationship with their coaches…
They got lucky that Michael Floyd and Armando Allen got hurt late in the game against them. That Notre Dame game was the peak of his career. Those 2 don’t get hurt and he turns into a nobody that went 4-8.
I can’t believe people still talk about me lol. Not sure why but thanks. Even if this 99.999% wrong 🤙 No one will ever know the full story and I like to keep it that way. Forever Go Blue 〽️
This is why you don’t run the spread at Michigan cause it’s in the programs dna to run and running allows the pressure to be off the qb if he is having a bad day and not need to pass as much which keeps the mindset better but just won’t ever have a heisman winner with this system maybe a running back but no qb
Yes and no. Brady Hoke wasn't head coach material and Rich Rod was a near miss... the offense was there but defense was essentially or literally worst in school history.
@@rw7975 please don't defend dick rod ,...but Brady hoke is doing just fine at San Diego st last I looked,...true he was a bit over his head at the time but has emerged a better coach from his days at Michigan ,...dick rod on the other hand is a mess,...
@@gromit0237 WV beat Oklahoma easily in BCS game before he took over; made them a national power. Michigan alum essentially hated him before he even started. Terrelle Pryor chose OSU over Michigan only - came down to the wire, final decision... then who knows. "Doing just fine at San Deigo" I think says it all lol Rich Rod was also relevant at Arizona for several seasons after... a PAC 10 program not 'San Diego' First season was a nightmare and no defense... you like Denard? Thank Rich Rod
@@rw7975 too bad he didn't stay in west Virginia,...and you can what if all day but the fact is dick rod put Michigan back decades ,...ruined traditions and made recruiting impossible,...thank God we have a Michigan man back righting the ship,...
They both sucked. It seemed like Rich Rods teams had good offense with terrible defense and Hoke I remember the offense was constantly shooting themselves in the foot especially the last couple years he coached but the d was usually pretty good. It wasn't pretty
Ugh, I hated this era of Mixhigan footvall. RichRod thought he could bring his spread offense to Michigan Things just never worked out. At least Tate was giving it his all.
Tate was a beast but wer far past those miserable times. I was a senior in hs watching him and litterally been dominated every year by Ohio until 2021 baby
The big problem with Tate Forcier was the academics. He didnt have good study habits and lacked discipline. He had academic problems at all the schools he went to. He was hurt by home schooling. and never developed as a student. I wish him well in his present life.
it really is a sad factor that home schooling often doesn't develop good study habits in kids. Every case is different, but homeschooling doesn't produce kids who are good at following any form of structure. And if you don't have a good homeschooling cirriculum and support system it often ends up with kids who just do what they feel like when they feel like.
Been out of town for the last 3 weeks, but I am back to uploading now! What topic should I cover next?
More Daniel Jones content
Don't you mean Clemson content?
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I personally love these videos of older players who have interesting stories.
Adam Taliafero, A former Penn State player
Tate Forcier will always have a place in my heart as a Michigan fan. For any Michigan fans who see this and are younger. Go look up Illinois at Michigan 2010. And see the heart Tate put into that game. Wish him the very best wherever he is.
Yea, absolutely 💯
Yeah but I don’t give a shit about beating Illinois. He didn’t beat msu or osu
@@kurtiscash8187 so fuck every player who couldn’t beat MSU and OSU right?
*Notre Dame 2009
@@rw7975 i believe the video covered that game, but yes that was another all time tate forcier game
What went wrong was Denard Robinson. They couldn't keep him on the bench.
Denard is one of a very few Michigan players I wished were Buckeyes. DPJ is another.
@@Whiskybuckeye honestly, and it pains me to admit this, DPJ would probably have been more successful at Ohio State, the way that y'all develop receivers.
As a huge Michigan fan I remember him, and remember now that Denard Robinson happened to Tate Forcier.
Forcier wasn't a what if, he was a bust. He would be a what if had he shown the amazing potential he had in September of his freshman season then gotten hurt, but that's not what happened. He had plenty of opportunity and playing time but didn't play well, Michigan was loosing a ton of games, and he lost his job because of poor play and poor attitude. Also showing immaturity and lack of leadership by missing team meetings, having a huge ego when his play on the field didn't reflect him having the reason for the inflated ego and then handling his demotion poorly. He was a bust plain and simple, not a what if. A what if is when we were robbed of knowing how his career would have turned out if he didn't get injured or had something out of the ordinary derail his on the field play. Forcier was given ample playing time and opportunities to show he deserved to be the starting quarterback at Michigan, and his on the field play kept regressing to a point where he was no longer the best option on the team at quarterback to give his team the best chance to win. Denard Robinson took his opportunity and the ball and ran with it and never looked back. For whatever reasons Forcier couldn't do what he needed to do to get back on the field after transferring. Sorry to say, he isn't a "what if." We know what happened to him. He was a bust, plain and simple.
Lmao, amazing potential in September. UM never plays anyone in September unless they are Delaware or Eastern Michigan.
@@johncooper7663 Oh, so schedule them late into the season like Alabama?
@@rdaws73 Or maybe play a power conference team. Wonder why the modern M program is so weak in bowls and against good teams.....hmmmm, real head scratcher. NO COMPETITION
I would always bench him for Denard Robinson in NCAA 11.
Same
Him and Sam Mcguffy were so hyped up lol
Grt catch! Mcguffey another diamond to zircon as was big boy rb Green! Just huge miss judges by coaches!
@@billkramer2994McGuffie ended up becoming an Olympic bobsledder!
@@RobJaskula Typical M miss judge. M needs more nobody like Haskins who become Jim Browns!! No titles w the McGuf of this world. That's why the teams w most 4/5 stars have all the NTs. One of their 5 stars flames out, several to take his place. Not so at M!
Tate's misfortune just lead to Denard going crazy 🔥
he wasn't big enough or fast enough, nor did he have a strong arm...but at least he was turnover prone. Not enough talent to beat out Robinson.
I wish Denard was on this team the last couple years he would have taken off even more...
@@bennytherollinstoner1932 He was a stud and so talented compared to Tate the not great.
I was just a little kid when Forcier took over but I remember watching the Notre Dame game and my dad and I were both so hyped about him. It’s kind of depressing to hear about his downward spiral because I only really had positive memories of the guy but I guess we can’t all be winners.
I live 45 minutes from Ann Arbor and I remember watching Tate practice. For whatever reason, he chose to complete only 4 of his 11 attempts to open receivers.
Remember, Alabama hired Nick Saban only after Rich Rod turned them down. The best non hire ever.
Wow now that's a piece of history nobody talks about.
Wow. I didn't know that Alabama was considering Rich Rodriguez.
@@damienwhited87 not considering. He was offered a contract.
Mannnn, talk ab a WHAT IF!!!
Tate's younger brother Chris could have made it if was willing to switch to receiver. Chris was 6'3" and ran a 4.44 forty time. But when Rick Neuheisel switched him to receiver he transferred from UCLA to Fuhrman to keep playing QB.. The Forcier brothers didn't have the arm strength required to make it big at QB.
As an Oregon fan I thought the same thing about Tate when he was a recruit. His arm wasn't good enough.
Great idea for a video, awesome job. this dude was one of my favorite guys to follow that season.
Forcier was my first QB back in the college days. Still remember people were selling "May Forcier Be With You" T-shirts. Fun days.
I had season tickets those years. Thank you for making a video about this interesting guy
The parallels between Forcier and Todd Marinovich are haunting.
Not really. Marinovich was very good in college and made it to the NFL. This bum was good for a grand total of 4 games in college against 3 VERY weak programs
Marinovich was WAY better......
Well…..he did have Marv Marinovich as a trainer for a while, so theres that……
Tony Boles Story would be a good one👍
I used to have Michigan season tickets and from what I was told by students at the time was he spent more time partying and smoking. Sounds like a kid who was overly controlled by his Father, then when he got out from under him, he lost that focus.
He was that way before he got to UofM. He came in with baggage
😂same thing that his childhood qb coaches son( todd marinovich) did when he got to USC
I loved the kid. I still have his old Michigan shirt that said “May the Forcier be with you. My name is Force so I was pulling for him.
Derrick Green also a big what if. I remember reading somewhere that Brady Hoke was in tears when he committed. But never showed the 5 star potential or at least the coaching staff couldn’t propel him
Added him to my list of videos to make!
Tbh. He wasn’t that good. Even looking at his high school clips. He was just big
He showed up to his first fall camp 241lbs!!!!!
@@WolverineDevotee Green needed a Ben Herbert in his life lol
Tate’s older brother Jason was originally at Michigan for a few years. He was Chad Henne’s primary backup in 2006.
Which should have been his first indication that he shouldn’t have gone to Michigan. If you have aspirations to be an NFL QB you sure as hell don’t go to Michigan.
@@axe2grind244 Tom Brady would like a word with you.
@@DisappearingNightlylol true. Before the bad old days of rich rod Michigan was solid for pro QBs. Including the GOAT. Michigan is getting back to that now. But they are also a running team, which scares some QBs away.
@@Rob2068 I think it shocks a lot of people to discover that over the past 40 years, Michigan is among the top five schools in the nation in terms of quarterbacks being drafted by NFL teams. My beef with the statement made in the post I was responding to is that it is, quite simply, factually incorrect.
@@axe2grind244Tom Brady? And Chad Henne played in the NFL until 2022!
As an OSU fan I miss Tate Forcier… those were some fun years to be a buckeye fan lol
😂😂😂
Tate was ass my dude.
Todd Marinovich should go around to schools and tell his story. Robo quarterback himself could give some good advice. Todd is still kicking around.
His red flags were being homeschooled and preparing as a QB his entire life he didn’t learn anything at home and this led to his demise in the college classroom
Idk when he was homeschooled, but went to high school with his brother Chris. Tate ended up getting kicked out of school for stealing detention pads his sophomore year (straw that broke the camel’s back). Ended up at Scripps Ranch for his Junior year. His red flags have been present for a bit before college. Chris was a stud and pretty chill from what I remember
He should have made it at San Jose State. With him having grade issues I have to question what the hell did he learn while he was home s schooled?
often times not much, home schoolers I've met are seldom dumb, but they have this weird sheltered view of the world that is often held back by their parents
@@DarkKnight-dq7ekyeah, most home schooled kids have terrible social skills
I remember the excitement he brought to the game. It was a bad time for Michigan football and he gave us hope, but felt like he had to carry the team and it was too much for the young man. I wish him well! Go Blue!
I would like to hear you do a video on Jeffery Demps and Chris Rainey but as one video. I think that would be cool. Love your content man.
As a State fan this is the shit I love to see.
Good info, Forcier was truly biggest mystery bust at M. I can still see him against the "tarnished Domers" run the read option, keep it and bust it rt up the middle fr about a 50 yrd run & td. Never heard a rumor even on why he lost it! With Denard and Gardner behind him, he had to produce or else! Or else got him!
I think, like Todd Marinovich, he just didn’t want to be a quarterback. He was beat over the head with it for so many years, non-stop, he grew to hate it. Once he hit a certain age, he rebelled and, in his head, he quit.
Remember Rich Rod and Forcier. The hype was crazy. Tate had brought some insane swag w/ him, but just flopped. Believe that’s when the Denard Robinson experience began
I could be wrong but I do think Denard freshman year was 2010 rich Rodriguez's last year at Michigan
@@brettsullivan907 Maybe. I just remember Tate having mad swag and thinking he was gonna be a cold QB. Then he flopped worse than any hyped QB I seen. And Denard revitalized em. I don’t remember if Rich was still there or not. I imagine not or else he’d prob not have ever lost his job. Think that was Brady Hoke/Hope time. .
my guy finishes his sentences like Mr Garrison lol...good vid
Hey Scott! Can you cover Daryl Clark? I think it’d be a great video.
It seemed like once they had game film on him, he never made then adjustments that were necessary to counter what the defense’s were doing to him.
I’m glad u did this, because I was just thinking about him.
I'm a Michigan fan and I actually ran into him and Denard Robinson once in Ann Arbor.
I had the privilege of meeting Tate and coach Rich Rodriguez and a couple of cheerleaders they sign my ball and I got pictures with them back in 2009 after the game
This is a cautionary tale.
That deke he had on his way to a TD against Norte Dame was awesome
Chad Henne is still to this day the greatest Wolverine quarterback
Chad Henne then Elvis Grbac
Winning-wise I have Brian Griese ahead of them
@@alberttate8198 no doubt!
@@alberttate8198 I won't argue that but Chad Henne was a complete quarterback and it helped he has very talented teams around him including Braylon Edwards
J.j. still has a chance to outshine them all
I was his back up right before freshman year at carlsbad along with Jordan Wyyn.
Tate was more refined than most players coming out of high school but he was already at his peak there wasn’t much up side.
He smoked himself stupid. Maybe he peaked, but he also never had freedom until college.
He was in my class in high school. At least freshmen and sophomore prior to transferring to Scripps. His older brothers were legends and led us to some CIF titles. I remember he was the next one up after his brother Chris graduated but then the sudden transfer out. There were rumors he got in some kind of trouble as the reason but no one really knew
As an Aggie fan, i think the biggest "What If" is What if manziel played 4 full years instead of 2
and didn't go to the Browns.
@csnide6702 the browns weren't the problem, didn't help though, his partying was the problem. He'll dallas was gonna give him a shot after being released, then his DV happened...with manziel, I actually think a bigger "What if" would be "what if manziel grew up poor and used his talents as a way out"
@@franquil85conn My only point with Brownies was that NOBODY on that coaching staff was going to get him where he needed to be -- he didn't play THAT bad with them all things considered... but the Brownies just were not patient enough.... but yes-- HE didn't help his cause either and didn't have the fire inside one would need in that situation.
@@csnide6702 he didn't play good at all...I'm a huge aggie fan and I was actually working in canton, Ohio at the time and went to his first preseason game...stadium was entirely behind manziel....I think the coaching staff wanted to be, but dig into it, he was being impossible and that matters....its like T.O....people put up with his bullshit until his numbers dipped....T.O. could have played many more years if he wasn't cancerous.....oh, and thought of another "what if"....What if the NIL was a thing in 2012...if manziel could have capitalized on it, do you think he leaves after 2 years? I mean he could have made millions at A&M
Merrill Hodge’s draft analysis of Manzel reigns supreme!!
Just like some college QBs aren’t ready for the pros, some high school QBs aren’t ready for college football. It happens.
I remembered the name, but wasn’t sure about the time period.
And then you mentioned Rich Rodriguez, and the lights came on.
That whole era, from the time that Michigan “stole” him from West Virginia, through all of the struggles and potential high points, that turned into low points, Tate was the quintessential cherry 🍒 on top of the total disaster cake 🎂 that Rodriguez baked up in Ann Arbor, with a lot of help from the
“we need to find our new Bo Schembechler!!!”
crowd in the alumni association.
Who knows what could have been 🤷♂️
But it seemed that whatever Rich tried to do, it blew up in his face.
But it also sounded like Tate was his own worst enemy.
Beginning with how he said he hated the training and discipline his dad made him and his brothers go through from a young age.
Another Dad, trying to force his kids to live out “his” dreams.
You can’t force someone to love something.
And if you don’t actually love it “yourself”, you will never have the drive and grit it takes to be successful.
I would say he got out of it,
what he put into it.
And it sounds like he was in over his head academically as well.
Which also says something about what was being focused on in his home life at a young age.
U of M is not easy school!
They don’t call it the Harvard of the Midwest for nothing.
Should have went to a community college first to see if all of that hype was worth it.
If Forcier was the cherry, then Rodriguez begging for his job and the swaying to “You Raise Me Up” is the icing. Even Josh Groban thought it was lame.
Harvard of the Midwest? I thought that was Northwestern.
After that notre dame game I thought for sure he was gonna be the guy who turned Michigan around
When I make my morning diarrhea there is usually one or two turds that don’t break up and float to the top
They all go down the same pipe
He beat Notre Dame and he brought a lot of excitement for a short time.
Looking back at those years isn't my favorite thing to do. But there were a lot of great players on those teams...shoelace, Gardner, lewan....sucks it didn't work out
Another case of a Dad living through his kids, children need a social life and time to play
Every Michigan quarterback is the next great quarterback and could’ve been the greatest player of all time. They’re also all September Heismans.
yup
GO GREEN !
And then there is Michigan's own Tom Brady the 🐐.
@@illusive1181 who only started one year at Michigan and was drafted in 6th round..... QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU KNEW HE WOULD BE A GREAT PRO - nobody did.
I'm a mich fan and I agree 👍
@@csnide6702two years.
I remember seeing him on campus drunk af all the time and he tried to jump out a window or something
Also, on an episode of Monday Morning Quarterback I remember Devin Gardner saying that when parties would happen at Tate's house everyone knew he'd have the best weed. I'm a fan of weed, but sounds like his priorities weren't straight.
I just remember the nickname growing up of Tate Forcedtoplay
Man this guy really was a spark, too bad he didn’t work out, loved this era of michigan football
It was Michigan's worst era of football. The RichRod/Hoke era.
Don't love ANY era in M fball where D stinks as in Rich Rod and Don Brown yrs!
This era sucked lol. The late 2000s until really about 3 years ago was embarrassing
@@packisbetter90 Thin skinned Carr sabotaged RR by telling every player to transfer so the cupboard was bare to start with fr RR. Then RRs gaff was not getting a proven D Coord. RRs O Ave over 30/game v puds but 18/game v stud teams. But RRs D gave up over 30!!!!
If you loved this era of Michigan football then I take it you are a Ohio St fan because Tates era was the worst era in school history
T.F. story is interesting. His family put up a website that really hyped him. During his time at UM, he uttered the statement that it is impossible to flunk out of UM. You just have to show up at class! Not a wise thing to say IMO. When he was benched at an OSU game at UM in 2009, I was there and viewed TF with a towel over his head. Yikes! This reminds me of the former OSU player who also flamed out: Tate Martell after much hype.
The Rodeguize and Hoke years were a disaster for everyone.. IT got worse with Devon Gardner... who was to big to fail. Insult to injury...Gardner entered the N*L Draft as a wide receiver
May the Forcier be with you!!! I remember when him and shoelace were switching drives and I had no idea who was better. Crazy. Go Blue
Who is shoelace?
@peteyprimo7173 Denard Robinson never tied his shoelaces so his nickname was shoelace.
"Mariahnovich?" lol.
Trained by Todd's dad!!???? Ahahahaahahaaaaa classic
This video was like opening a time capsule in my mind
Do a video on Illinois, former quarterback Juice Williams.
The person you need to cover Lawrence Phillips the biggest what if there ever was
Michigan's qb luck has sucked since Chad Henne honestly.
“Forcier could have been an amazing talent like Johnny Manzeil and Baker Mayfield but, unfortunately, many felt that his ego got in the way”
Yeah…you have to be humble like Johnny Football and Baker Mayfield! Those guys would N E V E R allow their ego to affect locker room chemistry or affect their relationship with their coaches…
These Dads and their robo-quarterback sons...smh
Those was rough times for Michigan but Tate was giving it his all
What also went wrong was Rich Rod for the whole program.
I remember the Terrell Pryor hype lol.
Tate and Sam McGuffey were super hyped.
Same thing that happened to Drew Henson......
GO GREEN !
Henson made it to the pros
Henson was way better than Forcier
They got lucky that Michael Floyd and Armando Allen got hurt late in the game against them. That Notre Dame game was the peak of his career. Those 2 don’t get hurt and he turns into a nobody that went 4-8.
Simple, don’t be a child prodigy and go to Michigan. Just ask Sam McGuffy. It’s like aspiring to be an NFL QB and going to Ohio St lol.
I can’t believe people still talk about me lol. Not sure why but thanks.
Even if this 99.999% wrong 🤙
No one will ever know the full story and I like to keep it that way.
Forever Go Blue 〽️
can u make one of these for sam mcguffie?
He was spectacular for a season
Antonio Bass would be my biggest WHAT IF
We played together at my high school. Scripps Ranch high in San Diego
This is why you don’t run the spread at Michigan cause it’s in the programs dna to run and running allows the pressure to be off the qb if he is having a bad day and not need to pass as much which keeps the mindset better but just won’t ever have a heisman winner with this system maybe a running back but no qb
The audio cuts during the voiceovers are really jarring and hard to take
Dick rod ruined more than just this kid, he murdered the michigan football program and set it back a decade if not longer ,..."GO BLUE"
Yes and no.
Brady Hoke wasn't head coach material and Rich Rod was a near miss... the offense was there but defense was essentially or literally worst in school history.
@@rw7975 please don't defend dick rod ,...but Brady hoke is doing just fine at San Diego st last I looked,...true he was a bit over his head at the time but has emerged a better coach from his days at Michigan ,...dick rod on the other hand is a mess,...
@@gromit0237 WV beat Oklahoma easily in BCS game before he took over; made them a national power.
Michigan alum essentially hated him before he even started.
Terrelle Pryor chose OSU over Michigan only - came down to the wire, final decision... then who knows.
"Doing just fine at San Deigo" I think says it all lol
Rich Rod was also relevant at Arizona for several seasons after... a PAC 10 program not 'San Diego'
First season was a nightmare and no defense... you like Denard? Thank Rich Rod
@@rw7975 too bad he didn't stay in west Virginia,...and you can what if all day but the fact is dick rod put Michigan back decades ,...ruined traditions and made recruiting impossible,...thank God we have a Michigan man back righting the ship,...
They both sucked. It seemed like Rich Rods teams had good offense with terrible defense and Hoke I remember the offense was constantly shooting themselves in the foot especially the last couple years he coached but the d was usually pretty good. It wasn't pretty
I was a big fan of his and wish they would of worked through things.
Recruiting during that time was absolutely insane. What we experience now seems tame. Tate was electric
Is there something about the name Tate? Reminds me a lot of Tate Martell, another hotshot that may have done even less.
Considering no Michigan QB has ever won the Heisman they all are September Heismans
I can never remember the white Michigan RB that went off and then was just out of the blue, completly irrelivant
Sam McGuffie
Do Kyle Wright. One of the biggest busts at QB as well. Not sure what happened there…
Reminds me of a certain tater tot at OSU.
the background music doesn't work at all.
Ugh, I hated this era of Mixhigan footvall. RichRod thought he could bring his spread offense to Michigan Things just never worked out. At least Tate was giving it his all.
What happened was Denard Robinson
Wait, did you say he was considered the 120-something best prospect and only a 4* recruit? That doesn't sound very prodigy-y.
Tate was a beast but wer far past those miserable times. I was a senior in hs watching him and litterally been dominated every year by Ohio until 2021 baby
I thought Taint Foreskin did pretty considering the terrible teams he was on, he split duties with Denard Robison
I’m stealing “Taint Foreskin”.
The big problem with Tate Forcier was the academics. He didnt have good study habits and lacked discipline. He had academic problems at all the schools he went to. He was hurt by home schooling. and never developed as a student. I wish him well in his present life.
it really is a sad factor that home schooling often doesn't develop good study habits in kids. Every case is different, but homeschooling doesn't produce kids who are good at following any form of structure. And if you don't have a good homeschooling cirriculum and support system it often ends up with kids who just do what they feel like when they feel like.
Just shows that just because you dedicate your life to something it doesn’t always guarantee success.
Remember McGuffie? That dude was phenomenal then nothing
He point shaved vs. Ohio State, then got beat out by Denard.
That’s how I remember it anyways….. we’ll always have that ND game Tater.
Facts he got a house. It’s well known
Do one on Wilton Speight
Speight wasn’t really a hype recruit. I was at the game in 2017 at Purdue when he got hurt - ended up being his last snap as a Wolverine.
@@torrey88he was in high school I guess lol , knew the guy a bit , very nice family and went to the same high school as Russell Wilson
Cover Summer Projects Tuesday vs Thursday group
Tate Forcier 🤝Tate Martell