This Unreachable Piranha Plant is the Strangest Battle in Paper Mario: The Origami King
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- There's an out of bounds/ inaccessible piranha plant in Paper Mario: The Origami King that leads to a very interesting and slightly glitchy battle. If you start a fight against this piranha plant, you fight against 4 toads in an arena with a blue background and 5 rings. We explore this battle and glitches associated with it in this video!
A big thank you to RandomSauce88 for the clip at 1:40! Go check him out for more Paper Mario/ speedrunning/ glitches!
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In this video, we test out Olivia's hints, items, and some battle mechanics to see if this fight is glitched. As for why we get this specific fight if we run into the piranha plant, something similar happens in the original Paper Mario game, as seen in the clip at 1:40 - in the original Paper Mario game, "800DC4EA" is the address for battle ID, and some of these unreachable enemies default to a certain battle ID that corresponds with fighting a regular goomba. In Paper Mario: The Origami King, the battle ID that was assigned to this unreachable piranha plant made this test battle with a blue background/ 4 toads/ 5 rings appear!
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WHY DO WE GET THIS SPECIFIC FIGHT IF WE RUN INTO THIS PIRANHA PLANT?
Something similar happens in the original Paper Mario game, as seen in the clip at 1:40 - in the original Paper Mario game, "800DC4EA" is the address for battle ID, and some of these unreachable enemies default to a certain battle ID that corresponds with fighting a regular goomba. In Paper Mario: The Origami King, the battle ID that was assigned to this unreachable piranha plant made this test battle with a blue background/ 4 toads/ 5 rings appear!
A big thank you to RandomSauce88 for the clip at 1:40! Go check him out for more Paper Mario/ speedrunning/ glitches!
www.twitch.tv/randomsauce88
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OTHER VIDEOS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
5 Secrets in the Code of Paper Mario: The Origami King - ua-cam.com/video/seGwGZY8-dk/v-deo.html
Why is THIS LUIGI INVISIBLE if we sequence break Paper Mario: The Origami King? - ua-cam.com/video/leuU0WC3bLY/v-deo.html
Fixing this bridge crashes Paper Mario: The Origami King - ua-cam.com/video/LEoFP7Y2sMw/v-deo.html
WATCH THIS STUFF LIVE, WE CAME ACROSS THIS BATTLE LIVE: twitch.tv/ZXMany
Awesome Video
the reason why there toads named (goombas) is because goomba is the default/placeholder name and toad model is the default/placeholder models
@@5FriedFrittersOnAFriday Oh, I forgot to talk about that! I remember that something similar happens in the original Paper Mario also, where there's a default name for enemies, and in some battles there are enemies that aren't named correctly!
I think it might be tutorial battle with Eldstar? I think he might be named Goombario if you edit the game's battle ID to face him if I remember correctly
Thank you for the comment :D
Cough cough BOLIVIA
@@Will-ru2nv that was translated horribly version not normal
Sees Toads attacking
Me: _color splash toads on the train flashbacks_
Me: *my wife left me*
Luigi would never do this to us.
*"MY WIFE LEFT ME"*
@@AzumarillConGafasBv "our" wife left "us"
“My butt is kinda numb!”
“You’re too slow!”
“Hurry up and repair the train!”
“My foot’s asleep, too!”
“GAAH!”
“You’re too slow!”
I think the 5 ring is an animation that is normally comvered up
Yeah, those are exactly my thoughts! It's probably just used as a placeholder for when you move enemies across the board :) Thank you for the comment, have a great day! :D
@@ZXMany it's not a placeholder, the 5th ring mirrors the first ring, and is used to make the shift animation smoother
Edit: note how when you shift a lane it's segment moves foward with the rest of the rings and then a new one appears
Yes! Looking at the geometry of all the other battle areas, the game has geometry covering where the “5th ring” normally is. I believe the 5th ring is present in every battle in the game as a part of animating the ring moves.
@@arekrekas213 Exactly! You said it better than me! It's used to hold the enemies in that place for a moment while they're shifted over during the animation 👍
@@michaelbecker7288 Yeah, that fits with all of the other battles that I've seen! That fifth ring seems to be covered in all of the battles by other textures/ backgrounds that are above it, so the fifth circle remains hidden for every fight
“We can’t find the drain plug!”
Eyesight: -9999999/20
I love this so much 😂 Thank you for watching to the end, I thought that was so hilarious 😂
Just when you thought this game had too many toads, the default enemies are toads too.
That's such a hilarious observation, I love that so much 😂 There are toads everywhere!! 😂
Why are the toads goombas
Kamek is just sitting there like "did I mix up the brownies again?"
I think the five rings are actually normal, and they are just covered in normal battles. I think they are used for the animation when sliding the rings instead if rotating them. They are used so that the rings don't visibly disappear. The visible ring moves to the hidden rings location and the hidden one disapeares instead of the visible one disappearing.
Yeah, exactly my thoughts! Thanks so much for the comment :D
@@ZXMany such a weird battle
Moral of the Story:
Changing Mario's Horizontal Position Is Perfectly Acceptable
Changing Mario's Diagonal Position Can Get You Softlocked
Changing Mario's Vertical Position Crashes Paper Mario
This is hilarious! The fight seems like some weird, interdimensional parallel universe where everything is just not quite right. Almost like something right out of a dream.
Also, it's interesting that the Piranha Plant disappears if you defeat it before the Chain Chomp eats it. I didn't expect the cutscene to use the actual model of that Piranha Plant, I assumed it was rendered as its own separate thing.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! It was really fun to test this out! We came across this during one of the streams, we were all very surprised when this battle came up 😂 Have a great day, I appreciate the support! :D
7:00 the reason why it happens is because you actually knocked off the sticker, then you damaged it a few times before killing it. The sticker is present on all paper macho enemies, but it's invisible on the chain chomp because you aren't supposed to get close enough to knock it off with out being torn to shreds!!! That is also the reason why the chain chomp doesn't scatter confetti when you damage it or have animations for knocking off the sticker, taking damage, or dying, The game never expected you to get behind the chain chomp!!!! (I'm not 100% sure about this but that's what seems most likely)
That's a really good explanation and that makes sense! As we learn more about the game we might be able to confirm this one day! Thank you for the comment, have a great day!
Mario's finally had enough of the Toads' crap.
😂 Too many toads!
@@ZXMany (toad screaming intensifies)
Toads + goomba = goomba toad
This is one of the strangest things I've ever seen. Cool discovery!
Thanks so much for the comment, it was really cool to come across this and share it! Have a great day :D
Agree is just so many strange things happen in this battle like there are 5 rings, toads are enemy, they shrink when they are attacking, using the fire flower just goes to enemies turn, it plays red streamer sound track battle, using the POW block dosen't hit the toads it seems like toads are like flying and got enemies strike on you first or jumping the enemies with spike on it, it just damage the toads instead of Mario got damage.
*But first we need to talk about parallel universes*
I love this reference so much 🤣 Pannenkoek's videos are absolutely amazing!
Is that the one from 3D World episode where I don't know but he says that?
@@arifsudibyo3931 Originally it's from a video by pannakoek12 called "watch for rolling rocks 0.5 A presses" but ZX said it in one of his videos
It's funny to think both in Paper Mario 64 and Origami King, there's a normally unreachable Piranha Plant with a weird battle
Yeah! RandomSauce pointed this out to me too, I think that's such a great observation! It's so funny that it's an unreachable piranha plant in both games! 😂 Thanks so much for the comment, have a great day :D
Nobody's talking about his HP and Coins.
Great observation! 😂
Sometimes I make my HP values 420, or very low, or other random values because I've been testing stuff on other save files! I usually keep my HP/ coins at whatever they are in the save file I'm using is unless there's some reason to change it
ZXMany thank you for doing this vid it was so much... wierd also thanks for letting me enjoy your vids also good job for 10k
I think the fifth ring is for the actual animation of sliding rings in and out.
I didn't think about that
Those are exactly my thoughts! Thanks so much for the comment, have a great day :D
This is Mario's revenge for all those times toad said "Thank you Mario but your princess is in another castle"
That's such a funny reference, I love this comment 😂 Have a great day!
@@ZXMany You too! :)
Piranha Plant is lord of the 5 rings with his 4 friends, toad, toad, toad, and toad. followed by his 2 arch enemies, Mario, and Chain Chomp.
POV: You are being attacked by the toad-goomba mafia because you destroyed their plant.
😂
sephiroth
On a serious note, I wondered about this battle myself. Pretty interesting stuff!
sephiroth!
5 Rings? Why not 7?
Ariana: I got it.
There's something unsettling about seeing the game written in, y'know, cohesive English xD I'm too used to the translated version!
Great video dude, loving all the content. I appreciate how concise yet detailed the videos are!
I feel exactly the same way after being used to the translated version 😂 Really glad you're loving the content, thank you so much for the comment! Have a great day :D
This video somewhat predicted "Paper Mario the origami King, but I swapped Olly and Olivia."
That's really interesting! This video was a premonition of what was to come! 😂
I actually remember seeing some toad animations that used the same prefix as those used for battles while looking at the game's assets. Glad to finally find out what they're for.
Mario uses Earthquake!
*It doesn’t effect the toad.*
I love this reference 😂
*I don’t care if it’s the weirdest battle ever, the toads deserve pain.*
Anyone else surprised and confused why he didn’t show us actually attacking with jumps or hammers?
Great question! The clip at 2:30 is how attacking with jumping works, and hammering works in the same way :D
We found this during a hacking livestream if anyone is interested in seeing more of this live/ all of the experimentation!
Have a great day!
I must apologize for my response. It’s just a crazy battle like this makes me head go wild with questions! I wasn’t sure if the lineup and Jump/Hammer basic attacks work the same as first strikes. Very interesting video and topic regardless. Have a great day too!
@@coolestcartoonist7425 I appreciate you checking out the video, thanks so much for the comment :D
I'm honestly surprised that the Piranha Plant isn't a normal battle. Maybe that's a specific battle for the developers to test how it would work, and figured they'd just assign this battle to the Piranha Plant since it's normally unreachable. Anyway, Nice video as always!
Thanks so much! My guess is that the same thing happens in this game as the original Paper Mario: every enemy is given a battle ID, and since this piranha plant is an enemy (it shoots out fire balls at you), it has to have a battle ID! Instead of creating a brand new battle with a unique lineup/ puzzles for an unreachable enemy, they just used the default battle ID that leads to the test battle, and that shouldn't matter because the enemy is unreachable
I appreciate the comment and the support, have a great day! :D
7:02 LOL. The Chain Chomp is gone.
Yeah, I was so surprised when that happened! 😂 It just disappeared, I was scared that I would Game Over if I got too close 😂
I think you actually defeated it but it had no confetti to scatter and no animations when you damaged it or knocked off the invisible sticker because you weren't supposed to get behind it in the 1st place.
@@waterwraith3334 That's a really good point and it's possible that that's what happened!
Maybe the chain chomp has a certain number (or certain location) of hammer hits required to defeat it! I'd love to learn more about that as we look more into the game
Thanks so much for the comment, have a great day! :D
Now, imagine this, but without music
10/10 nice finding and I love all these things from TOK.
Thanks so much for the comment, I really appreciate that! Glad you thought it was a nice finding, I agree! Have a great day :D
My guess: The fifth ring exists in the normal game but is covered up, and is used so that there is an extra grid available, so that pushes/pulls don't look weird.
I don't have that good programming experience, but with my small experience and knowledge that I have, I think that the toads are placeholders, and the fifth ring is for viewing purposes because you can see that the fourth one becomes the fifth without having an animation.
Edit : I think the fight had to stay because of the game's engine, so they put the fight somewere you *shouldn't* be able to get to it.
I noticed that if you slow down the video to the slowest speed when mario uses the fire flower ( almost at the end of the video ) it says for about a half of a second shiny mushroom instead of fire flower or shiny fire flower
True. Good observation
I wonder what happens if you try cheering on the Toads that would normally be in the audience in this battle. The most likely guess is that it'll just do nothing and the enemies turn will activate.
Plot Twist: The Toads are a self-insert of the developers and that why they can't die
I think you're right about the 5th ring being for animations. I imagine in all the used battle arenas that it's there underneath the edges of the arena.
Yeah, I think that's exactly right! That's what it seems like in every battle :) Have a great day!
@@ZXMany you too! Thanks for all the fantastic content!
@@ElectricFury Really glad you're enjoying it, thanks so much! More to come soon :D
Man, this video has been really interesting!
Really glad you enjoyed it and found it interesting, thanks so much for the comment! :D Have a great day!
Pretty neat video! Thanks for uploading!
You're very welcome! Thank you for the kind comment :D Have a great day!
7:28 i paused as you said that and you said: "he's got a Fanta" i just 😂 like: "wow he has a Fanta, im going to watch his videos rigth now"
This is a really cool video! Didn't know about this before!
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate you checking this out! I was just watching your Origami King video the other day and I really enjoyed it, nice to see you here! Have a great day :D
This person is a great youtuber because they reply to comments often.
I appreciate the kind words, thank you so much! Have a great day :D
@@ZXMany
You too. And keep up the amazing work.
I was naming that Piranha "the impossible enemy" And I guess this is the only way to battle it
That's really interesting! Yeah, I don't know if anybody would've expected this battle from the piranha plant 😂
Paper Mario probably used his uno reverse card to avoid getting hit when jumping on the piranha plant
5:19 ah yes, my favorite Pokémon, *Toad*
6:40 plot twist: it was biting its teeth and it started to bleed. Lovely.
Looks like a test battle of some sorts, likely not as a placeholder but a "test level" battle left in.
I love your videos!! You deserve more subscribers :D
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your kind words :D Have a great day!
Sorry I haven’t been very also if I don’t get a chance just want to say Merry Christmas Zx! It’s been so much fun watching this channel grow and evolve and I am lucky enough to have been part of it so I just want to say thanks for everything
Merry Christmas Cryptic! I really appreciate the kind words, thank you so much, and thank you for being part of the channel from so early on! Hope all is going great for you :D Have an awesome day!
Basically the unreachable piranha plant is not supposed to be battled so when you manage to interact with the piranha plant they must have just made a default battle that was not really thought out since it wasn’t meant to be battled
Yeah, that sounds right to me! They probably didn't add a battle to an unreachable enemy because it, well, shouldn't reached!
Have a great day, thank you for the comment! :D
Np :)
"Fight Toad"-Quote taken from a ytp
I always knew toads were evil
I have an idea for a mod. Paper Mario the origami King, but every character is Mario. That would be funny to see.
I think the 5th ring is there for when you slide the board vertically to create the effect where the tiles come back from the other side and that the 5th ring is present in every battle but is usually covered up
Great comment, exactly my thoughts! Thanks for checking out the video, have a great day :D
@@ZXMany im glad you think the same
I think we may have encountered some sort of enemy that was made for testing, but that's just a hunch.
The fact he's refraining from lining the toads up perfectly as the timer slowly is about to end even though it's the perfect formula for a lineup makes me cringe
If there’s a paper Mario the oragami king iceberg this has to be on it
I've played around 65 hours with it and it exceeded my expectations by a lot. In my opinion it is a much better game than what the internet discussion suggests about it. Even most of the reviews are "it is a fantastic game but it is not RPG and the combat does not give XP, 7/10", which is really strange to me, like most people cannot simply measure this game on its own but looking at how it differs from a 16 years old game.
It is mainly an adventure, puzzle, collectathon game with beautiful graphics and music, clever and funny writing, charming story and characters and tons of unique ideas.
I personally loved the logic puzzle aspect of the combat (especially the bosses) and never got boring or frustrating to me but I can understand if someone feels different about it because it is really unusual and definitely not for everyone.
I am honestly sad that this game gets so much hate on the internet and there isn't really any discussion about it on r/papermario, only memes, because according to my experience with it it definitely does not deserve that. Not the best game of all time of course, but definitely something that adds much value to the Switch library and it's easily worth its price.
This game was bolted and locked up so that you couldn't even sequence break without hacks. This game is built from the floor up.
I'm not close to the chain chomp part, and I'm still scared of it.
It can be a scary part! Hope you enjoy the game :D
1:13 Should have tried using hammer there lol
I wonder how much modding potential there is in this game! :o
There's a lot of really cool things you can do with modding this game! There's really simple things you can do on the surface like replacing models, and I know a few people who are looking at more in-depth stuff like the possibility of custom maps, battles, and partners!
Lol at first I thought the title said “strongest” instead of “strangest”
What a curious situation! I wished I could fight it during my play through of the game, I figured that it would be similar to the out of bounds fights in 64 like you showed off, definitely very bizarre.
Also, since it doesn’t crash after fighting the piranha plant, how does this affect progression in the Musée Champignon enemy display? It isn’t normally factored in, so does anything change? Can it count towards the trophy?
When the toads get so small before they attack I think they where crumbled:)
I tried this! Fighting my club was funny lol. I also noticed a folded soldier chain chomp when going out of bounds. Probably an unused fight for the chain chomp chase I’m guessing. It’s in the origami castle out of bounds. Same with a weird platform and Bobby flying out of bounds of the area he died in. Pretty weird
I’d also think that the game would be better because I would like more enemies
Hey, I’m coming from the Origami King glitch hunting discord. I’m assuming you used similar value editing tools to ZXMany. I was curious on how you managed to find the out of bounds origami chain chomp?
We’ve been trying to figure out how to manipulate the camera using value editing tools, so if you did something like that and know what values to target, please let me know!
@@zaku28 I don’t exactly remember. It’s been 4 months since I did this. My best suggestion is trying the mod “Noclip And Exploits” which lets you noclip into areas
@@meltedcrystals7 hmm, okay I’ll ask around about that mod. Thanks for the quick reply!
Do you remember what general area the chomp was at least?
@@zaku28 it will take you a minute (or 2. Probably 12) to find it. But is very very very very hidden in some corner of the void.
I actually went to explore the void again today and see if I could fight it
It brought me to a fight with king Olly. But when I beat king Olly it took me to handaconda. And it would keep taking me to bosses until I reached the end. It then took me out of the Boss Vr Thing in battle lab. Going to guess it was a possible boss rush mode for the boss vr
The true anti piracy on paper Mario the Oragami king
I think we can call this: The lost toad world
Great name!
Nice christmas hat. Merry christmas!
Thank you so much! Merry Christmas! Have a great day :D
I’m disappointed that UA-cam hasn’t been recommending me you recently...
I’m pretty sure that the five rings are always present and the fifth ring is there for when you scroll the tiles up so you don’t see nothing
Yeah, exactly! I'm thinking the fifth ring is there in every battle, but there are visuals that cover it up so we can't see it there
Darn, I was hoping there was a way to glitch into this fight in vanilla, but no, you have to mod it.
So far there's no way, but if we ever discover something like Thudley jumps in Super Paper Mario, or jump storage in TTYD, or Kooper super jumps in the original Paper Mario, then maybe it could be possible!
Right now we have to edit Mario's vertical position or use a moon jump
I was thinking maybe it uses toads as an original tutorial battle idea but then with bolivia said your friends are here to help, it sounds like she means the toads, probably after you used coins to call them out, some coming on the field, and if you line them up or place them near enemies, they help in some way
also maybe there could have been a harder mode unlocked post game where there is 5 rings making lining up and causing damage much harder and allowing for more combinations and moves
A hard-mode after completing the game could've been a really interesting idea! We've seen that in a lot of classic games like the original Mario and the original Zelda, it would've been a nice throwback to that 😂 Have a great day!
I think that the fifth ring is in every battle, that the animation for sliding rings looks smoother.
Those are exactly my thoughts! Thanks so much for the comment, hope you have a great day :D
Wow, Toads are so op! Guess they don't help Mario in battle as it would be unfair for the enemies.
Just got an ad that said let’s go there
This is a dangerous and mysterious place to go 😂
Take a shot every time he says piranha plant
Does anyone else hate how low Mario jumps in this game? Like come on Mario, you can jump higher than that, we've seen it in Super Paper Mario.
Love the santa hat!
Theory: Maybe the Toads are inside the Piranha Plant. Neither Mario or Kamek are attacking them because they're not enemies, but the Toads are being mind-controled to attack you. By fleeing, you save the Toads and they're back to normal.
That's such a funny idea 😂 There have been theories about "secret stars" and "secret bananas" in Mario and Donkey Kong games, and this game has "secret Toads" 😂
Hey congrats for 7k subs
Thank you so much, I appreciate that! :D
Congrats on 7k subs
Thank you so much 😀
Kamek is glitchy when he runs and jr is behind him also cool video.
Thanks so much, really glad you thought the video was cool! :D I did a bit of sequence breaking to get here, and we got here before Bowser Jr got put back together 🤣
Did this guy legit just make a Normal-Flying Pokémon joke? 🤣🤣🤣 5:09
Yes 🤣 Hope you enjoyed the video!
Wow 😳 Another amazing video! So interesting 🧐 Also, your voice is smoothing!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Have a great day :D
I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes toads in this game. Although, I haven't played sticker star, so there's that.
I think if we coud keep this Battle System in the next Paper Mario, we coude make more Rings to make it more hard. Z.B. The Ice Vellumantal with 7 Rings and Ice Mace!
6:52
*Rated E for everyone*
You know what after a while you get used to you staring straight into the camera and you not always being there is also nice
I think the 5th ring is always there but it’s hidden because it’s not meant to be there
Question: what happens if you use the lamination suit to try and sneak not shogun studios instead of the Goomba mask? (or is the lamination suit not accessible at that point?)
That's a really great question! I'll add that to my list of stuff to test, that's really interesting! If it's not available yet, I can try hacking the game to get it early and see what happens :D Have a great day!
@@ZXMany Thanks! I'll look out for the video! :)
I’m still sad for Bobby.
Take a drink every time he says piranha plant
Sounds dangerous 🤣 Thank you for the comment!
0:06 wait... The Toads are called Goomba?
Nintendo: toad = goomba yes yes
If the game had 5 rings instead of 4, logically the game would be 25% better
Nice one 😂 Hopefully we can have an 8-ring Paper Mario one day, it'll be twice as good as this one!
@@ZXMany the math checks out
Also note how it's red streamer battle theme
He wears a Santa hat
This is literally creepypasta material.
The battle is really strange
The hardest battle in the game.