Here's Why I Prefer Collecting Low Grade Vintage Sports Cards!!

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • "Buy the card and not the grade." It's a commonly stated phrase, but very few people actually do it. If someone is really willing to trust their eyes, and buy quality cards and not worry about the grades assigned to them, you'll have more fun and have more money. It's amazing how many people are hypnotized by the high grades that the grading companies assign. But, if you can look beyond the grade and truly find cards that are eye appealing and bring you joy, I think your enjoyment of the hobby will multiply exponentially. In this video I compare cards from my personal collection to recent sales of cards that have been assigned higher grades. Which cards do you prefer...mine, or the ones with the higher grades? Check it out and let me know what you think.
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  • @ken-pr2df
    @ken-pr2df 10 місяців тому +5

    Great topic and lesson to all people in the hobby!! Most collectors do not have unlimited resources. Through this idea we can still get nice cards of the more popular players without breaking the bank!! This concept will make your card budget go further!!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      For sure. My budget is certainly limited, so I have to get creative.

  • @SimplyAmazuring
    @SimplyAmazuring 10 місяців тому +6

    Great job with an insightful video! In defense of grading companies in general, their job is to assign a technical grade, where “eye appeal” has ZERO consideration. It is indeed the job of the COLLECTOR to decide which cards they like for the value. I agree with your eye and your sensibilities!

    • @vintagecollector5340
      @vintagecollector5340 10 місяців тому

      For me, that's where the problems start coming in: why grade a card if you aren't taking in all considerations of eye appeal? Isnt that part of the process of assigning a numerical grade? Shouldn't they at least add an above-average eye-appeal sticker to their labels? Alot of people would probably argue against it, due to increased value, but I couldn't tell you how many times I tried buying a low grade I thought appeared nice, just to receive it with blemishes/creases I didn't see in photos. That sticker would at least ensure people were getting a nice copy for the grade. If they can't take all aspects of the card into consideration, then why bother? If they're going to do a poor job, I think they should just start authenticating them without any numerical grades. I've seen even faded cards with high grades. Explain to me how that makes sense? Shouldn't fading devalue and lower the grade? None of it makes any sense to me.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I think that's a fair point. It's not always the best eye appeal that gets the best grade. But, I also think my main point is that the focus shouldn't be on the grade, for that exact reason...that is unless someone's collecting preference is to collect the card that looks closest to how the manufacturer originally intended it to look. I just think we've gotten obsessed with grades.

  • @allamerican82nd57
    @allamerican82nd57 10 місяців тому +3

    Always buy the card, not the grade. There are some beautiful lower grade cards. You can save so much by looking. Great video. Please do another one like this in the future. I really enjoyed it.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Awesome. Thanks so much for taking the time to share. I'm really glad you liked it!!

  • @TO-vp3ne
    @TO-vp3ne 9 місяців тому

    I totally agree with you on this topic....alot of people miss the whole reason of collecting cards

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому

      Yeah. Eye appeal is my thing, but understand others differ.

  • @Redneckclector
    @Redneckclector Місяць тому

    Great video on a great topic. The more time I’ve spent in the vintage world, the more I’ve come to appreciate centering over everything else.

  • @GoldenSlumber474
    @GoldenSlumber474 10 місяців тому +4

    I picked your card 8 out of 10 examples. The major differences I noticed overall is that your cards were not quite as vibrant in color but they were better centered & presented better. I have a T206 Piedmont 350 in a well-centered & cornered PSA 1 which I bought 8 months ago & have yet to see any visible flaw on it. I don’t get it either

    • @RandomEsports1
      @RandomEsports1 10 місяців тому

      heck ya!!! the lower gradesa re the best!!!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      As long as we're buying what we like when we see it, we're good. I just don't want people to become hypnotized by the grade on the slab.

  • @bobwhite4671
    @bobwhite4671 10 місяців тому +2

    I agree with you on every card, but the Bob Feller card.

  • @andrewsells5
    @andrewsells5 10 місяців тому

    Awesome cards Graig, you have a great eye for deals and patience to wait until the best opportunity presents itself

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much. It's hard to be patient and find the "right" one. But, it makes it worth it when you do.

  • @stanleystart411
    @stanleystart411 10 місяців тому +1

    Understand that… at Local Card show I picked up a second year Yaz in a 2 for $40… looked nice… fills the spot to go along with my 1960 rookie which is a 1

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Awesome. And...now you have one!!

  • @HOLLYKelley-u3h
    @HOLLYKelley-u3h 10 місяців тому +1

    I LOVE LOW GRADE CARDS, THEY WERE ENJOYED !!!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому

      EXACTLY!! Someone loved them. They weren't just packed away. Part of their story.

  • @StraightRaceCards
    @StraightRaceCards 10 місяців тому

    Great video. Right up my alley. For me, good centering, eye appeal, and registration trump sharp corners all day long!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I'm with you, but didn't always feel that way.

  • @Byrrd51
    @Byrrd51 4 місяці тому

    Preach, brother. I am 100-percent on board with you. Agree, agree. Thank you for posting.

  • @bradturner7327
    @bradturner7327 10 місяців тому

    Love your shows. I totally agree with you on this. Buy the card not the grade. That's what I love about vintage, most people don't criticize for low grade cards. I try to buy mid 2s-mid 3s and I'm totally happy with my grades and the looks of the cards. These are seventy year plus cards and it's just a miracle they are still here in my eyes.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      Incredible that cardboard hasn't fallen apart. Totally agree.

  • @mikegreenpants4885
    @mikegreenpants4885 10 місяців тому

    I have watched your videos for almost a year. This one was your best yet. You do what you say. Love youe opening words. You do buy the card & not the grade. I think collectors tend to follow this thinking. Investors are always concerned with value over eye appeal. I have collected most of my life, almost 74 now. Never did resale value enter the picture. Twice I bought graded cards ,a 1 & a 2 1/2 , cracked em both out. They are beauties & stand up without a number. Collectors , trust your eyes & not some stranger to tell you what to like.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate it. We all live and learn during the collecting journey. We all make good and bad decisions, and that's all part of it. It's like life.

  • @EdgarHernandez-vy2kn
    @EdgarHernandez-vy2kn 10 місяців тому

    I went 9/10 with all your picks, with the exception of 62 perrry… I know those wooden borders are a hard grade!!!! Beautiful cards!!!!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks so much. Appreciate you watching and commenting.

  • @averagejohnsportscards
    @averagejohnsportscards 8 місяців тому

    Great video! As someone new to vintage this is certainly a strategy to incorporate. I don't find myself too concerned with the grade if the card looks good.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  8 місяців тому

      Yes. Eye appeal matters most!!

  • @ALvatar3
    @ALvatar3 10 місяців тому +1

    Your cards are all better centered and I agreed we’re better

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks. I understand why people prefer sharper cards, but I prefer better looking ones. :-)

  • @stevezeppieri
    @stevezeppieri 10 місяців тому +1

    MORE. OF. THIS. PLEASE.

  • @BaseballTimeTraveler
    @BaseballTimeTraveler 10 місяців тому

    Really enjoyed your presentation, Graig. As always, you deliver a clear and concise analysis. Since re-entering the hobby nine months ago, I have only purchased ungraded cards and trusted my own eyes (old as they may be). I have submitted many to SGC (for the usual reasons as a collector, not investor) and my batting average has been pretty solid thus far. Thanks for taking the time to share your spot-on perspective! Well done.
    Take care,
    Rob.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I appreciate the kind words a ton. Thanks!!

  • @s.macintosh-jc9rf
    @s.macintosh-jc9rf 10 місяців тому

    Hi Graig,
    Thank you for the wonderful discussion about lower graded cards. I collect cards from PSA 3-4 almost exclusively. I sometimes splurge and get a PSA OR SGC 5! My collection is very nice but very cost effective. I have some cards that are better looking at lower grades than some I see that are graded higher.
    Have a great weekend and keep collecting.
    Peter

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks Peter. I always appreciate your comments.

  • @ClementeCollector
    @ClementeCollector 10 місяців тому

    I agree! Great video! I do feel corners is a big differentiator for a lot of these. But I agree, centering and color, should be held to a higher standard!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Corners aren't that important to me if the centering is good. If centering is off, then corners matter more. Gotta have at least one of the two.

  • @danielbernier6095
    @danielbernier6095 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for another useful video. I tend towards lower grade cards myself due to affordability. I've been pleasantly surprised with some of the cards I've gotten. I've sometimes ended with higher grades (5 and 6) because of a good deal. I can tell by your picks that centering is important to you. Some of the higher grades had worse centering than yours. I consistently picked yours because of centering. Great video.

    • @RandomEsports1
      @RandomEsports1 10 місяців тому

      yep 9-10 grades are silly

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks. Centering is important, but not the only thing that matters. But, yes...a lot of times I'd prefer a touch on the corners and centered.

  • @KevinKauffman-jf9ex
    @KevinKauffman-jf9ex 10 місяців тому

    Really good video! Feels good having someone share the same opinion in regards to buying. I target a card, look for the most affordable low grade presentable card I can find. Basically, the best bang for your buck. With a budget, it stretches my card buying further. If that makes sense.

  • @WARRENBUFETT
    @WARRENBUFETT 10 місяців тому

    I was 10 for 10. You're absolutely right. Your card were better in every case. For me, centering is the the most important factor -ceteris paribus (all things being equal). Your cards were all better centered. For me the Mantle was the closest to being even, but yours was better. The surface of the card looked newer and brighter. Your Bart Starr looked 2 grades better than that the 8.5 Bart Starr. So that would make yours a 10.5. lol.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I'll take a 10.5 for sure!! That would make the value go way up!! LOL.

  • @shinycardboardaddict6831
    @shinycardboardaddict6831 10 місяців тому

    You've helped me realize that some lower grade vintage cards can have better centering, registration, and color than others that are graded higher. If someone isn't picky about corner sharpness or wax on the back, then they can save a lot of money and end up with a very visually appealing card.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Completely agree. That's usually my focus.

  • @3D80sKid
    @3D80sKid 10 місяців тому +1

    For every card where the grade was at least 2 different I could tell which one was going to have the higher technical grade. But of course > technical grade does not = > eye appeal. another issue with many of the other people’s cards was poor lighting for the photos. Makes it tougher to judge superior eye appeal without equal lighting.
    But for the most part this is the take for all pure collectors who have collections that will be sold by their heirs. Don’t know that this will change anyone with the “investor” mindset.

    • @CitizenX367
      @CitizenX367 10 місяців тому +1

      Totally agree with all points you made. 👍

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      Fair points, no doubt. Next time I'll take terrible pictures of my cards. LOL.

  • @David-fv7zg
    @David-fv7zg 10 місяців тому

    I dont know what made me think of this but I remember reading a book by Tim Kurkjain (My Hero LOL), who I think is the greatest story teller in baseball, about Graig Nettles Your hero LOL. Apparently when he was coaching the Yankees, they had a rule that no one would throw anything that would require the field coaches to pick up after them out of respect. Well I guess Mel Hall didn't ever like to play by the rules so he slammed his helmet after a strikeout, Graig Nettles picked it up down the 1st base line and carried it back to the dugout, where he proceeded to smash it into 1,000 pieces, handing it back to Hall and saying, "Here I picked up your helmet for you."

  • @jamespinette9403
    @jamespinette9403 10 місяців тому

    Great job as usual on this one Graig. Easy to see immediately which card is yours however, since you own it every one of your cards is brighter in color, the others are from a screenshot.
    Agreed on 8 of yours, some of thise are just incredible for the grade, congrats on those finds.Imo, I would take the higher graded Feller and Spahn. The killer on the Feller is the bottom front left corner which is pretty narly to me as well as the paper loss on the back.
    The Spahn cards are pretty similar but the $40 difference in regard to the grades makes me lean to the higher graded card here as well.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Fair points, for sure. Hard to disagree with you on any of that.

  • @returntocollecting
    @returntocollecting 10 місяців тому

    Great video Graig! I 100% agree with you, eye appeal is so important. The comparisons that you did were fantastic! I was checking some of the serial numbers to see if I was the hump who bought the higher graded cards (luckily, I wasn't)😂... Thanks for making this video, its such an important concept when it comes to collecting!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      LOL. I was afraid of that. I don't want to offend anyone who bought the "other" cards in the video.

  • @justinhoyle841
    @justinhoyle841 10 місяців тому

    Great video! I 100% agree with your points here, and practice similar things in my collecting. I also like what you said about the importance of just having the card. I have some pretty rough SGC 1s of rarer cards, but guess what? I have the card and that brings me enjoyment!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Exactly!! There are some cards I just want to own, regardless of how they look. I just want that piece of history.

  • @chadholt1171
    @chadholt1171 10 місяців тому

    Great video. Almost every graded card I’ve purchased over the last few years is bellow a SGC 5. The higher graded examples are cards I submitted myself. I have a lot of cool cads which out breaking the bank.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Definitely is the affordable way to do it!!

  • @scottnyre6158
    @scottnyre6158 10 місяців тому

    Graig
    Love the video as usual, although the funniest part was when you were imitating the arguments that people would have 😜 mostly funny because it was true

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому

      LOL. Glad you enjoyed that. I crack myself up...so I'm happy to hear others enjoy that stuff too. LOL.

  • @williamnorona450
    @williamnorona450 10 місяців тому

    Great insights in this video! Your christy Mathewson is a CLEAR winner!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks so much. It's a great card.

  • @WilliamScott-ug9df
    @WilliamScott-ug9df 10 місяців тому

    Another informative and entertaining video .I mainly collect vintage sets many of which are fully graded .For each set I have a minimum grade .I do not want a set with a lot of different grades. Fully graded complete sets are valued by the grade not by each individual card. I will buy higher grades of the key cards but not a lower grade regardless of the individual card's appearance .(PSA set registry. Back in the day SGC also had a set registry but dropped it).That said I agree 100% that if you are collecting individual cards buy the card not the grade as you advise. Keep up the great videos.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I totally agree with the minimum grade concept, and somewhat do that myself. But ultimately, the look of the card is what makes me decide whether to buy or sell.

  • @MikelineTV
    @MikelineTV 10 місяців тому

    Seems like from all of the examples you showed Graig why the darker imaged cards are a grade or more higher than the lighter imaged versions? Never knew about the 1c and 5c Bowman packs and that the 1c card would have the wax back. Thanks for sharing everything from this video

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks so much.

  • @avsant-c2c
    @avsant-c2c 9 місяців тому

    Great job! I totally agree. I really enjoyed this. Thanks!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому

      Awesome. Super glad you enjoyed it!!

  • @Vintage_Dave_T
    @Vintage_Dave_T 10 місяців тому

    I’m with ya. Lower graded cards are more cost effective. I’d rather have 2 lower grade cards than one higher graded card.

  • @jd66cards
    @jd66cards 10 місяців тому

    Yep side by side not knowing the grades I probably would have taken yours 9/10 with the exception of Spahn. Good info. This is pretty much how I build my collection, best bang for my buck with eye appeal. Although I have some total beaters that were too cheap to pass up.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      Best bang for your buck is how us limited budget guys have to deal!!

  • @fanstream
    @fanstream 10 місяців тому

    I prefer your Willie Mays 5 to the Willie Mays 8 --- the colors pop on the 5 :) I also prefer the Otto Graham 4 (yours) to the 6. Also prefer your Doby.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      The color on that Mays really is awesome.

  • @ACollectorsDream
    @ACollectorsDream 10 місяців тому

    Another great video, your cards look great for the grade. Definitely need to buy the card, thanks for sharing

  • @leehaskins307
    @leehaskins307 10 місяців тому

    agree…. all low grade cards are not the same.. but the better looking ones are ones I also collect….

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      It's the best way to get the most for your money.

  • @mookiechillson
    @mookiechillson 10 місяців тому

    Saturday night midlife!! This is such a useful demonstration, Graig, and a great testament to your decision making as a collector. And BTW - this is a genuinely additive kind of flexing! Eat your heart out, Hans and Franz!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Those guys were cool. I'm not.

  • @rickellsmore8731
    @rickellsmore8731 10 місяців тому

    Great video! The 1958 Mays AS, 1958 Bart Starr, and 1952 Otto Graham were the best examples of the bunch IMO. Your examples were better than the higher graded cards! Congrats!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks. I agree. The 58 Mays has such a great look to it.

  • @marcthesilvershark
    @marcthesilvershark 10 місяців тому +1

    I think I've seen this episode multiple times!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      It's a topic that I think we all need to continue to remind ourselves about.

  • @OWENWASSINK
    @OWENWASSINK 10 місяців тому

    Another great video. Influenced by you I've picked up a number of great PSA 1's-5's the last few months. Keep it up.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Awesome stuff. I'm genuinely not trying to convince anyone to think like me, I'm just sharing how I collect and why. If others change their habits, that's cool. If not, that's cool too.

  • @leehaskins307
    @leehaskins307 10 місяців тому

    u have some great examples of lower graded cards having much better eye appeal them some higher graded cards…. eye apeal means alot…. but yeah the grade still sometimes commands the price..

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      No doubt about it. So, investors and collectors may have different perspectives.

  • @cardboardcheddah3715
    @cardboardcheddah3715 10 місяців тому

    That’s been my main PC focus for a few years. I’ve got some award winning PSA registry sets that are amazing but I just love my low grade rookie collection that tries to tie in the vintage to modern. It’s easy to find low grade vintage but a real challenge to find more modern in low grade.
    It’s also exciting to pick off the low grades that look so much better.
    People often claim the card is under graded but it’s not necessarily the case. A card with all 4 sub grades will get an overall 4. A card with one 3 subgrade and all 10 other subgrade os also an over all 4.
    My first choice would be to have the sub grades on the label to see those variations. Just makes me feel
    Like I’ve won! 🤪
    Experienced collectors won’t pay the same for a centered 5 as they would off centered. When you try to associate he averages, they’re limping in all the sales of all the different factors collectors do and don’t pay more for.
    I’ll pay more for a card with better eye appeal in the same condition.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Same here on paying up for eye appeal. I totally agree on that 100%

  • @RatedRookie
    @RatedRookie 10 місяців тому

    Fantastic episode! Keep them coming

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Thanks so much. Glad you liked it. I will continue to encourage people to look the card over for what they like best.

  • @JucksColletibles
    @JucksColletibles 10 місяців тому

    At the end of the day when it comes to vintage, I just want the card. The biggest flaw that draws me away is when the card has snowing effect or just beat up. I buy the card over the grade. I’d rather have a low eye appealing card over an OC overgraded opinionated high grade. But to each its own.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I totally get that. Having the card is the ultimate goal, for sure.

  • @4TheGame2016
    @4TheGame2016 10 місяців тому

    You are right on! I buy some raw that I know over the years that wouldn’t be that 8 or 9 but a 3-5. Now days they are looking even better some say…

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      The grade is just a number. How we feel when we look at a card is what matters most.

  • @ACD1994
    @ACD1994 10 місяців тому

    I like that you used both examples from PSA and SGC. Some of your lower grades do, appear to be better or just as good as some of the higher grades ones. Christy Matthewson, is most likely scarcity. That card, is over 100 years old, but most of the other examples I do think it, really is just over paying for the grade, itself.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I try to use both from time to time. PSA has larger sample sizes, but SGC is growing in the vintage community. So, I try to use both when I can.

  • @paulkeinrath6235
    @paulkeinrath6235 9 місяців тому

    I was half and half when choosing, however with the internet nowadays if I find an affordable card in a lower grade I look for others in that same grade and pick others in the same grade. However any card post 1986 has to be a 10. Pre 86' grade doesn't matter to me. With vintage I'm more about the color than centering so if centering is a little off I'm cool with that.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому

      I totally get that. Makes sense.

  • @cryptonite8495
    @cryptonite8495 6 місяців тому

    Graig, one thing you neglected to share on your cards is WHEN you bought them. If you paid $50 for a card twenty years ago....

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  5 місяців тому

      I'm doing monthly pickup videos now, so everyone knows exactly when the card was purchased.

  • @larrygitlin6017
    @larrygitlin6017 10 місяців тому

    Before grading came around I bought what was available which was raw. As much as I studied the pictures in beckett on corners and other aspects I usually went with what appealed to me. When grading carme around I depended more on the grade because it was not clear to me how each card got the grade it got especially on high graded cards.. With experience and looking at tons of graded cards it came more clear and I depended more on my own eyes but I will admit I have always looked at the grade and the higher to me the better. You have broken that for sure and these days you are right they are grading so hard a low number means nothing. My last pickup of my 62 Topps Lou Brock Rookie at a SGC 5 is as nice and maybe better than my 7s and 8s and of course I paid a much lower price. Thanks for opening my eyes.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Collecting is a long journey and we learn and change a lot along the way. I'm going through that right now myself.

  • @rodheffern5862
    @rodheffern5862 10 місяців тому

    I enjoy your videos and agree with most of what you’re saying..the only thing that is a deterrent is the length of your vids has gotten longer ..enjoyed them much more when you were more succinct in your opinions and observations.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I appreciate your feedback. Thanks.

  • @PoorMansInvesting
    @PoorMansInvesting 9 місяців тому

    The only grading company I can trust is CACG in coins, but they're so strict I would only recommend cross overs for submission to them.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому

      Interesting. Never heard of them, but I don't have any graded coins.

    • @PoorMansInvesting
      @PoorMansInvesting 9 місяців тому

      @@MidLifeCards They started in '05 as CAC just stickering PCGS or NGC slabs only but started slabbing in July due to popularity.

  • @jlbaseballcards
    @jlbaseballcards 10 місяців тому

    Low grade is my kind of grade too! I just saw on ebay that a 1962 Topps Ernie Banks in PSA 9 sold for $8,800, while a PSA 8 sold for $523! Both cards were sold by the same seller and on the same day 😵

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      Completely out of control. To me, that hammers the point home.

  • @juhosevic
    @juhosevic 10 місяців тому

    Awesome topic and examples. Also agree to buy the card not the grade. However, grader notes (supposedly PSA is adding this at some point) would change how I view a potential purchase to rule out damaged cards at my threshold level. I think we all have some OCD. If a grader with their tools discovered a “well hidden splitting corner” or “well covered, but deep indent” etc etc… I’d never be able to buy certain lower graded cards depending on the finding.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I can't wait to see grader notes. That'll be very interesting.

  • @jga59
    @jga59 10 місяців тому +1

    Why not just find some reputable sellers you can trust and buy cards raw? All this discussion about grading - what grade did I get, or is grading a scam? If you're buying a Ruth or something like that, I can understand wanting a little more verification in this day and age. But overall, It seems to me that grading has become too central to most collectors. I sometimes think one can almost look too closely at a card. When you put cards in a simple top loader and just look at them in the context of others, they just become cards again - which is everything! Sharp corners and centering are WAY overrated. Although, if a card is way off-center, yes, that's a different story. A wrinkle in the "right" spot can even add character to the card. Your lower grade cards are much nicer than the higher grades you showed, although the Feller and Mathewson were tough choices. The other Doby was also nice. If you take that card, as well as the other Warren Spahn, and put those in top loaders and look at them in the context of other '50 and '51 Bowman cards, they are everything that a card should be.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I think that's a fair point. If you have reputable sellers, that would work, if they are common cards. But for some of these cards with very few copies in existence, that's easier said than done.

  • @CitizenX367
    @CitizenX367 10 місяців тому

    Your Feller did have a crease through the Cleveland, but the registration was much better. That Perry and Doby blow my mind. The registration on both of the others were awful! You, like me, are obviously a centering first guy, so I got them all right.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Everyone has different preferences for sure...and I don't expect everyone to like what I like.

  • @vincentcapaccio2033
    @vincentcapaccio2033 4 місяці тому

    What the grades your showing say to me is that the graders lean towards Sharpe corners...I prefer Sharpe corners but, the lower grades look very similar...

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  4 місяці тому

      PSA seems to learn toward sharp corners and SGC seems to lean towards centering in my opinion.

  • @royakard8536
    @royakard8536 10 місяців тому +1

    I haven't been back to this hobby that long at all. It's obvious the grading scene is a train wreck. I absolutely refuse to be a part of it. I will buy a graded card on occasion, but my hobby doesn't need it.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I get that point of view and totally respect it. Grading has been great and awful for the hobby, both at the same time.

    • @royakard8536
      @royakard8536 10 місяців тому

      @MidLifeCards I kinda feel like Mr Mangini.

  • @ACD1994
    @ACD1994 10 місяців тому

    Buy the card not the grade I think, is good advice and something a lot of people say, but not necessarily do. Yes. I would say it, is a combination of ego, for some, and insecurity not really being a good judge of condition and trusting instincts, when it comes to saying, yeah, I can totally see this card, which was assigned a 4...looks just as good or better than a 6 or whatever.. going back again to ego and or insecurity.. it's hard to get there. I don't know if they are right or wrong, but I get it. The thing to keep in mind though, as you mentioned too, is it is your collection, so yeah you got to like it, when comes to reselling however, there's probably a perception, and might be some truth to this, that there will be more eyes and attention on, higher grades. Which could be one of the reason and possibily others as well sells some of the higher graders, the 6's and 7's instead of the 3's and 4's. I don't know. It's late. Haven't been sleeping well lately, hope you understand what am saying. Great video.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Hard to argue with any of that. No question about it.

  • @catfishapperson5250
    @catfishapperson5250 10 місяців тому

    The otto. 1 was a large another was a small. Not really comparable. Good video tho I agree w you.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Interesting that I missed that. I thought I had checked for that.

  • @vintagecollector5340
    @vintagecollector5340 10 місяців тому +1

    I think this video is all the proof anyone needs to convince themselves that grading is a scam. Ive said this before, and I'll say it again: The simple fact that any lower grade looks as nice or nicer than any higher grade is very concerning. That fact alone should concern anyone in the hobby, because it simply undermines the entire purpose of grading. However, it does make perfect buying opportunities for many people and gives them a chance to take advantage of the absurd grading standards. The only reason the higher grades sell for more, is because the hobby has been monopolized and manipulated by these grading companies. When people learn about grading, they are taught that the "higher" the grade, the better. They are told that higher grades have lower pop counts, so they're rarer and more valuable. This simply isn't true, though, because grading companies cannot control true population of a card...only card manufacturers can do that. Its also important to note that in alot of cases, lower grades have lower pop counts. For example, that 1958 Mays all-star has an extremely low pop count in a PSA 1 and PSA 1.5!! Even more rare is there has only been ONE graded authentic copy, which, if we are studying pop counts, should rival any high grade in existence, right? If population count truly matters, then why aren't these lower grades with lower pop counts more desirable and valuable? Looking at it from the lower end of the spectrum from this perspective, do you see how none of this makes any sense? It's simply manipulated with artificial scarcity that doesn't even make any sense when you look at the numbers.

    • @mikegreenpants4885
      @mikegreenpants4885 10 місяців тому +1

      Nice job. Love your post !

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      I totally respect this point of view and you're not alone in that thought process. A lot of people believe grading is a scam. To me, grading is not so much a scam as it is a range. When I see a 5 grade, that means 4-6 to me. When I see a 3, it means 2-4. If someone takes it as the law, then that's where it gets tough.

  • @jasonnugent-vw7cy
    @jasonnugent-vw7cy 10 місяців тому

    What draws you to seem to collect more vintage. We’re about the same age and I prefer to collect players I remember seeing play. But hey, collect what you like.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Well said. Collect what you like.

  • @dacryptkeeper6836
    @dacryptkeeper6836 10 місяців тому

    I think the grade will only be of importance when it comes time to sell; if not by you . . . by your heir!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      Good point. Unless grades become less important to the hobby community.

    • @dacryptkeeper6836
      @dacryptkeeper6836 10 місяців тому

      @@MidLifeCards Given the way the younger generation views grading, I don't see that happening! Even you have more graded cards sitting on your shelf than I have altogether!!!!

  • @mcarp2271
    @mcarp2271 10 місяців тому +1

    If it’s about having the card why even collect graded cards? There are countless beauties out there that are ungraded.

    • @mikegreenpants4885
      @mikegreenpants4885 10 місяців тому

      You are exactly right. Trust your eyes.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Some people don't trust authenticity or that a card has been altered. So, grading does that as well.

    • @mcarp2271
      @mcarp2271 10 місяців тому

      @@MidLifeCards I understand that for BIG cards where someone is dropping big money. Or even super high demand players like Mantles. However, I personally feel like the card altering and counterfeiting paranoia is laughably overblown. The concept that there are all these shops out there modifying or counterfeiting large volumes of vintage hall of famer cards is just not true. Plus the grading companies (PSA especially) have proven repeatedly that they miss altered cards. My view is 1) it’s in the grading industries benefit to continue to help sell the “so many of these cards are altered” agenda 2) many collectors love to convince themselves they are all about the card but really that little number means just as much to them so they can understand the current value or compare there collections to others. There’s nothing wrong with this, I just wish more people would be real and stop saying “buy the card” and they turn around and say “but I only buy graded” cards.

  • @davidwilsing1545
    @davidwilsing1545 10 місяців тому

    That 5 grade in the Irvin is ridiculous. Your 3 is waaaay better than

  • @A.K.1978
    @A.K.1978 10 місяців тому

    I like the 5.5 bart star

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      It's a sweet card. I'm happy to have it.

  • @juliosandoval8244
    @juliosandoval8244 23 дні тому

    Very true iam on that with you

  • @mantlecollector
    @mantlecollector 9 місяців тому

    I dunno about graded cards cuz its subject to one person opinion on what the card grade is. Just cuz one person at psa says the card is a 5 doesn't mean it's a 5. For all we know, the card could be a 4 or a 6. And it shouldn't matter who grades the card, the grade the card gets shouldn't change if it's in the same condition if u send it to psa or sgc or whoever. Just cuz one grading company has different ways to determine a grade that grade should always be the same. For example: 2+2 is always gonna equal 4. No matter who is doing the math 2+2=4. It doesn't change. Same way with grading cards. Unless for some reason the card condition changed like there's a new crease or a ding corner when there wasn't one before then and only then should the grade be different. People pay so much money when buying graded cards when that might not be the true grade of that card. If u sent that card to 5 different grading company and it came back the same grade then I can say that card is a 5.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  9 місяців тому

      I agree with you. I think that's part of my point to this video. Grades are one opinion, not the law. So, I focus on cards that I like the looks of, not that some grader preferred.

  • @jude999
    @jude999 10 місяців тому +2

    They way they are grading is so stupid. A 4 is the new 6. And in thre real world a 7.

    • @CitizenX367
      @CitizenX367 10 місяців тому

      Makes a guy wish he had graded years ago!

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Totally agree.

  • @ryanfitzgerald2816
    @ryanfitzgerald2816 10 місяців тому

    I will NEVER buy most PSA cards period and especially those in the super old 80 million or 90 million series. Every single one of those series I've ever seen are massively over-graded and I'd bet my entire collection that those numbers were specifically reserved for insider/preferred partner grading.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. I get that, for sure!!

  • @mrmjmiller
    @mrmjmiller 10 місяців тому

    Yours was better in every case even the one you didn't think so on. Your picture was more vibrant and centered better in every case. You bought the card not the grade.

  • @michaelhuene561
    @michaelhuene561 10 місяців тому

    You ask "Is that card really worth 3 times mine?" The answer is yes, because people are paying 3 times for it. It may not be to you, but it is to the marketplace.

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Fair point. I guess I should have asked, "would YOU pay 3x as much for it? " Some people would obviously say yes. My answer would be no.

    • @michaelhuene561
      @michaelhuene561 10 місяців тому

      @@MidLifeCards Actually, my answer would be no also!

  • @MrTripcore
    @MrTripcore 10 місяців тому

    I'd rather have centered without sharp corners

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      That's where I'm at now as well.

  • @wilbertmatthews
    @wilbertmatthews 10 місяців тому

    Viewer survey: If you had one very valuable card and you had to sell it in order to pay your kids college tuition. You get one shot, say you have a 52 Mantle PSA 8. You have to choose. Where would you sell it??
    Goldin
    Hunt
    Heritage
    Ebay
    REA
    Other

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Tough question. I think the most eyeballs may be on ebay, but the most marketing would be on another. I don't know if I have a good opinion on that one.

  • @A.K.1978
    @A.K.1978 10 місяців тому

    Ty for explaining this more. Why is a Psa 5 grade different from a SGC grade 5? Should they be the same price ?

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому +1

      Argh. I meant to include this in a Wednesday Q and A video. I will soon.

    • @A.K.1978
      @A.K.1978 10 місяців тому

      @@MidLifeCards ok

  • @vincentcapaccio2033
    @vincentcapaccio2033 4 місяці тому

    Lol...that Bart star card isn't close to yours...great 5.5..

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  4 місяці тому

      Thanks. I'm thrilled to have it.

  • @peanutlover90125
    @peanutlover90125 10 місяців тому

    Hey Graig, another great video. I actually have some cards I'd like to send you if you have a way of getting me your address. I'm not on any social media other than facebook so if you know of a way to get my your address I'd appraciate it.
    Thanks Ed

    • @MidLifeCards
      @MidLifeCards  10 місяців тому

      Wow. Thanks Ed. Email me at midlifecards@gmail.com
      We can connect there!! Thanks!!