Recording Acoustic Guitar with 2 SM57s - Amazing Sound, Easy to do, and Cheap

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  • I've had this one in the queue for a while, but using SM57s is actually a super easy way to use this technique and get (What I think) is an amazing sound, and easy to mix. Sure, it's not as crisp as condensers, but it's also not killing your ears with the brittle high end. This method of using two SM57s is a great method to try if you don't have any fancy gear, but need fancy sounds.
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  • @studiodebras
    @studiodebras 5 років тому +122

    I would have been perfectly happy with just the over-the-shoulder mic, surprisingly nice tone. I suspect the room has something to do with that too.

  • @strongtowermuzik5440
    @strongtowermuzik5440 4 роки тому +9

    Probably the best mic technique I've learned on UA-cam this far. Great job man!!

  • @TTH4245
    @TTH4245 2 роки тому +4

    Tried this tonight and it sounded really really good. Thank you for sharing

  • @Kitzy
    @Kitzy 5 років тому +11

    I was surprised by how much I liked the shoulder mic alone.
    I use a similar technique with a ribbon as a shoulder mic, and a LDC as the front mic. Panning them hard left and hard right sounds huge. Definitely great for a singer/songwriter vibe where the acoustic guitar is the instrumental focus. I’ll have to try this with 57s next time and see how they compare. Thanks for the great idea!

  • @ardobkin
    @ardobkin 5 років тому +7

    I appreciate all the hard work that went into editing this video together! all the different compression, takes, and mics all line up with the video effortlessly... and it certainly isn't effortless! Thanks for all these videos, they've expanded my knowledge exponentially.

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  5 років тому +2

      Thanks Adam. Yeah it takes around 2-8 hours to edit. This one was about 4 or 5.

  • @tommyflowers7098
    @tommyflowers7098 Рік тому

    Clearly presented and a great technique. You have an approachable personality for these demonstrations and explainations. Well done!

  • @garyshirinian
    @garyshirinian 5 років тому +1

    It really sounds good . Thx for sharing this technique on UA-cam.

  • @sfn4702
    @sfn4702 5 років тому

    Your videos are so good, I always learn something! Thanks man.

  • @donbmf7408
    @donbmf7408 Рік тому +1

    That overhead mic is fantastic and the combination even better!!!

  • @elstevious
    @elstevious 4 місяці тому

    I just did this with my old 78 taka 12 stringer and it sounded great. I’ll be using this technique all the time. Thank you

  • @wasabifox
    @wasabifox 5 років тому +2

    The ‘CSL’ micing for acoustic guitars... this will my recording method for acoustic guitars from now on. Thank you VERY much!

  • @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy
    @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 3 роки тому +2

    Really nice video. I'm gonna try this when I get better at guitar (just starting; played piano for years though). I already have one SM57, so half way there on the gear! Cheap and great results!

  • @Tarnith
    @Tarnith 5 років тому +2

    I really like the sound of the stereo pan. It has a very balanced yet interesting spread that I really wasn't expecting. Almost sounds good enough to replace a double track!

  • @JesseWitneyMusic
    @JesseWitneyMusic 3 роки тому

    I'm looking forward to giving this a go. Thanks very much!

  • @merenco
    @merenco 5 років тому

    This is definately worth a shot. Been experimenting with shoulder mics the last few days. Now I will try it with the 57's as well as with a few cheapo condenser pencils. Thanks!

  • @violaobrasileiro
    @violaobrasileiro 3 роки тому

    Great technique and amazing video. Cheers!

  • @TruffulaTreeGTR
    @TruffulaTreeGTR 2 роки тому

    Good work!! Definitely going to test this.

  • @aSpeaker2BlocksAway
    @aSpeaker2BlocksAway 5 років тому

    Saved my life. Thank you. Worked so great yesterday.

  • @resslerartstudios
    @resslerartstudios 4 роки тому +2

    Dude, I tried it. totally awesome! didn't have 2 57's so I subbed one with a beta57a - The beta57a up top, and the sm57 front. same as you did in the vid. still tweekin with positions but like the whole sound I am getting. Thanks!

  • @CamiloVelandia
    @CamiloVelandia 4 роки тому +1

    Wow really digging that top mic position!

  • @zacgrubble9824
    @zacgrubble9824 5 років тому

    Well done and thanks for sharing!

  • @kapitbanda
    @kapitbanda 11 місяців тому

    this is a very good demonstration, thank you !

  • @tedroberts4540
    @tedroberts4540 3 роки тому

    Great job on the technique and the video presentation

  • @rothconrad5428
    @rothconrad5428 3 роки тому

    I think this is really. Just got my first to sm57s and I can't wait to try it!

  • @martinbergmartinberg
    @martinbergmartinberg 5 років тому

    Great method.
    Really helps with a natural recording. Used two small condensers and it worked really nice. I found it gave a lot of room to move for the player without affecting the sound badly.

  • @PEPPERMINT606
    @PEPPERMINT606 3 роки тому

    Makes a lot of sense. Kinda gives you the perspective (acoustically) of what the player hears vs the listener.

  • @lamusicamerodea
    @lamusicamerodea 5 років тому

    Great data as allways. Thanks man!

  • @AdamRainStopper
    @AdamRainStopper 5 років тому

    A new video? A new video! This is exactly what I need right now.

  • @reinaldolopezh
    @reinaldolopezh 5 років тому

    Man! Great tip for recording acoustic guitar... Thanks for sharing

  • @peterjackson9529
    @peterjackson9529 Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @paulstefanowicz4236
    @paulstefanowicz4236 5 років тому

    Great tip; great technique. Thank you

  • @joelolofsson3604
    @joelolofsson3604 5 років тому

    really cool! gonna try this sometime

  • @GarrettGardnermusic
    @GarrettGardnermusic 5 років тому

    The over the shoulder mic surprised me but makes sense. That’s the perspective I hear my acoustic when I’m playing, so it’s a familiar sound. Nice!

  • @Passenger-hn5fb
    @Passenger-hn5fb 3 роки тому

    Cool technique! There's some other helpful gems in here too:) cheers!

  • @Elixirmusiques
    @Elixirmusiques 4 роки тому

    Amazing stuff! Thanks a bunch

  • @catface101
    @catface101 5 років тому +10

    Would love to hear how this compares to using LDCs or pencil condensers in the same configuration.

  • @joshjenkinson1929
    @joshjenkinson1929 Рік тому

    Amazing mics. Sound great on loads of things without any EQ or messing about as long as you place them correctly.

  • @daleonov
    @daleonov 3 роки тому

    Cool! Really liked it both in mono and in stereo

  • @JaneWillowMusic
    @JaneWillowMusic 3 роки тому

    I loved this video Thank you!

  • @dawsonabel6068
    @dawsonabel6068 5 років тому +12

    I'm very impressed with this technique and will definitely be using it myself in the future. It's just more proof that you don't need expensive gear to have a good sounding recording, you just need to be a good engineer.

    • @soulslip
      @soulslip 9 місяців тому

      That’s probably 90% of it. Like what Steve Albini says about using even cheap mic preamps is better than not using them etc.... if you know what you are doing can still make fantastic recordings on cheaper gear

  • @0bjko0
    @0bjko0 5 років тому +37

    Not a big fan of the placement of the frontal mic, but the overhead is incredible. I'll definitly try that.
    I think the front one may be slightly better off-axis. This is definitly worth trying. Great video!

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  5 років тому +12

      Yeah, this was my first and only placement. We filmed about 20 different things yesterday and I also want to stress that this technique doesn't suck with almost no effort.

    • @0bjko0
      @0bjko0 5 років тому +3

      @@creativesoundlab Yeah it's still way better than what we can expect from an acoustic guitar recorded with only 57's. And that's a very good starting point to experience even more with this technic. I'm definitly going to consider trying that for my next recording gig.

  • @huncysound
    @huncysound 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve been recording Acoustic guitars with a ribbon, mid side, and a small diaphragm. This SM57 technique is far better sounding. Nice and tight, even without the compressor. Thank you for putting together this great video. You Sir remind me of a professor I had in school, I think he invented sound, or had a close personal relationship with it. LoL

  • @sebastiancuthbertmusic
    @sebastiancuthbertmusic 5 років тому +1

    Great idea!

  • @earlgmusic
    @earlgmusic 5 років тому +1

    Of course, this is about recording 'rhythm' acoustic guitar. To me, instruments and vocals are equally specific. Here, it depends on the guitar, technique, method of playing (picks, fingerpicks, nails, flesh), and musical context. But your approach is certainly relevant. Thanks for the video!

  • @skipper6528
    @skipper6528 5 років тому +1

    Love this channel

  • @adozensparrows
    @adozensparrows 5 років тому

    That's the next method I'll be trying. Very nice stereo.

  • @CesarBenzoni
    @CesarBenzoni 5 років тому

    Interesting! Great sound

  • @kimhansen6384
    @kimhansen6384 5 років тому

    Very interesting experiment. I wouldn´t have thought that, but I actually liked the agressive compressed version quite much.

  • @johnnyguitwithit2614
    @johnnyguitwithit2614 3 роки тому

    Well done sir

  • @adamkowalski6733
    @adamkowalski6733 5 років тому +6

    I'd never liked acoustic guitars miked with SM57. You've just changed my mind, this technique is awesome. I'll definitely remember it! ;)
    Good job and keep up the good work!

  • @justiceforall6412
    @justiceforall6412 3 роки тому

    Really nice tutorial, thx.

  • @thecamocanoe
    @thecamocanoe 5 років тому +9

    This shall be dubbed the “Ryan Method”. Sounded great.

  • @johnstitt2615
    @johnstitt2615 5 років тому

    Think I will try this

  • @revoxjazz8317
    @revoxjazz8317 5 років тому

    I like things explained in this way. I like the Shure SM57 and I like the sound of a perfectly audible acoustic guitar. I do not know in what other circumstances this setup would work well but from what I realized, this is a very reasonable way to get a decent sound from an acoustic guitar, so I just have to thank you for this suggestion.

    • @fishbake7
      @fishbake7 5 років тому

      What is a huge factor is, how does it sound in a mix?

  • @maldonadocorrea
    @maldonadocorrea 2 роки тому

    excelente, como siempre se aprende mucho

  • @jamaisdirei
    @jamaisdirei 8 місяців тому +2

    Nebraska, de Bruce Springsteen foi todo gravado com 2 SM57 e uma Tascam Portastudio

  • @SatanicJamnic
    @SatanicJamnic 5 років тому +4

    I have never touched guitar. I don't make music. And I like to watch your content, just because it's produced well, and I like how you explain things. Cheers.

  • @RedHeadGuitar
    @RedHeadGuitar 5 років тому +3

    Sounds amazing. The over the-the-shoulder mic sounds a lot like what you hear as a player, that's really neat combined with the traditional mic up front. I've got one SM57 and a AKG P420 (2nd gen, not one of the horrible blue ones). I wonder how this works together. I'm thinking of putting the P420 condenser over the shoulder for some crisp high end and the SM57 up front for it delivers some smooth mid range.

  • @africanviolet4773
    @africanviolet4773 5 років тому

    Hey! Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos. It really helps to those of us that try to learn intricate details online, and you make it so easy for us :) Quick question; I’ve seen you use Warm Audio outboard gear in your previous videos. What is your general opinion on WA compressors and preamps and how do WA-76 and WA-2A compare to the Klark Teknik (?) 1176 and LA-2A clones? Will you recommend other inexpensive stuff like Golden Age Project etc?

  • @amgauctions29musicgearandm31
    @amgauctions29musicgearandm31 4 місяці тому

    Wow !!! Technically excellent guitarist, dynamically adept.

  • @willsmithers3172
    @willsmithers3172 3 роки тому

    Best channel

  • @viveka2211
    @viveka2211 5 років тому

    Great suggestions.... Keep it up

  • @Bills_Place
    @Bills_Place 5 років тому +2

    Surprisingly good, I'm going to try this. I might try the same placement with Rode NT-5s (since that's the only other mic I happen to have 2 of in my "studio")

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  5 років тому +2

      Yeah, go for it. For the NT5, I would gently reduce the highs just so that the lows and mids are stronger. That's actually the mic I talk into.

  • @mikeberk3214
    @mikeberk3214 4 роки тому

    Cool! I tried this before I ever saw this video but I placed 1 mic about 12 inches in front of the sound hole (for bass) and 1 mic the same distance in front of the 12th fret (for treble). also came out great!

  • @Petterballs
    @Petterballs 5 років тому +1

    This might work on a Classical/Spanish guitar. I record a lot of classical music in my school and some rooms are really shitty. This might give that big guitar sound without a lot of room sound. After that, slap a nice reverb and you're good to go.
    Nice vid as always!

  • @HomeStudioBasics
    @HomeStudioBasics 3 роки тому

    Hey man what mic combo would you suggest for acoustic guitar + singing at the same time? Do you think this setup would be good for that?

  • @ChristianIce
    @ChristianIce 5 років тому +20

    There was a huge ring around 600 Hz on the front mic alone.
    Did you notch it out or it disappeared by phase cancellation?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  5 років тому +12

      Um, yeah I noticed that too. I think there was a boost that came naturally at 680. I meant to talk about this, but forgot. I don't think I did any EQ in that frequency range.

    • @MeTuLHeD
      @MeTuLHeD 5 років тому +1

      Comb filtering...?

  • @peddlebreaker
    @peddlebreaker 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing technique and video Ryan, thank you! How did you get 2 57's to sound that good without any noise? What pre's were you using?

  • @saam6768
    @saam6768 5 років тому

    This was one of the best videos you've done in a while. Not that there are any bad ones, but this was just awesome. Do you happen to recall what pre-amps were used with the respective microphones?

  • @kepriworks
    @kepriworks Рік тому

    Pretty Cool

  • @wilo1463
    @wilo1463 2 роки тому

    VERY VERY GOOD

  • @luisadolforoblestorres1552
    @luisadolforoblestorres1552 8 місяців тому

    Great!

  • @TheSimonarne
    @TheSimonarne 5 років тому

    i did a technique you showed but i addded a room mic and i kept the di aswell so. so what i did was i put one mic to the body from the left side when looking at the guitarist and from the 12 fret towards the sound hole and i panned those hard left right and i put the di in until i liked the ratio and did the same with the room mic. i placed the room mic at about the same height as the head of the player behind him and i was pleased with that sound

  • @aSpeaker2BlocksAway
    @aSpeaker2BlocksAway 5 років тому

    Thank you

  • @dinoschachten
    @dinoschachten 3 роки тому

    1:31 I see what you did there. :D Amazing, I never thought SM57s would sound this pleasing on detail-rich, organic instruments - well, let's be honest, individually they don't. All the more remarkable that they can be made to in this configuration.

  • @J-DUB-F1
    @J-DUB-F1 5 років тому +11

    Sounds really nice!. Very natural with no hype in the low or highs.
    A couple questions.
    1- is your recording space really dry?
    2-What pre were you using, and did you have to really gain it up?
    Having a dynamic that far away I've never been able to capture an acoustic, not without cranking the pre up and if there's a comp making up gain there. This of course will raise the noise floor, and if you don't have aq reasonably sound proofed room, it's a big problem.

    • @loudtim265
      @loudtim265 5 років тому +1

      This is a solid question. I think a lot of newer ppl have trouble getting this kind of clarity in general without a good bit of hiss. Get rid of the noise and the source starts to sound a little distant or even grainy (?). The room is certainly a big factor here along with proper gain staging, but it might be worth a walk-thru vid of micing and recording an acoustic instrument from step 0 to hitting the rec button.

    • @chadnathanbenson
      @chadnathanbenson 5 років тому +1

      John Wells +1 to John’s question!! I deal with a similar issue regarding noise floor and micing from those distances.

    • @benoittissier58
      @benoittissier58 3 роки тому +2

      Get a Fethead or equivalent and you'll be surprised how much a 57 can achieve ! It is powered by phantom power and brings 27 dB of clean gain.

  • @SufyMusic
    @SufyMusic 4 роки тому

    I found with headphones the hard panning sounded a bit odd for me but it sounded good still, just not used to that width

  • @stevelaferney3579
    @stevelaferney3579 5 років тому

    Great TY

  • @terrydoylemusic
    @terrydoylemusic 5 років тому

    Great video. I have been doing this with two Cascade ribbons and I call it Glyn Johns guitar :-)

    • @truckerkevthepaidtourist
      @truckerkevthepaidtourist 5 років тому

      find out who the hell knows who Glynn or his late brother Andy even our will be amazing lol

  • @dimitriskorontzis8699
    @dimitriskorontzis8699 5 років тому

    Hello you think it will work the same good as your example if you play something more delicated with the fingers like arpegios?

  • @robertoj.fernandez2189
    @robertoj.fernandez2189 5 років тому

    I had used this techinc recording Mariachi Nylon string guitar to mono tracks and doubled it.

  • @CarloLibertini
    @CarloLibertini 5 років тому

    Very Nice!...

  • @mikesparks3398
    @mikesparks3398 4 роки тому

    wondering if the mics are also inline with the sound hole? since we can't see in front of the guitar it's hard to tell.

  • @yuhreed
    @yuhreed 2 роки тому

    how do you get the mic to record loud but not pick up movement around the room? my sm57 records really quiet and when I compress it to make it louder it sounds really bad and full of random noises in my room. I use a focusrite scarlett solo and record into fl studios with a noise cancellation and a compressor as the bus

  • @Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials
    @Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials 5 років тому +16

    you applied the “recordman” to a guitar☺️

  • @SoundFriendly
    @SoundFriendly 5 років тому

    How much gain did you put on the preamps for each individual mics ? Thanks for answering.

  • @mattuskamusic
    @mattuskamusic 5 місяців тому

    Listening to you switching them between the two it might be effective to use one mic position for the verse and the other from the chorus. Or even change the pan between the two.

  • @raymondlooi
    @raymondlooi 4 роки тому

    Always enjoy your videos with strong informative and proven result! Superb tone! Personally love the moderate compression version! **Shoulder Mic placement, just right the above of (in line with) shoulder or a feet further from shoulder? For the front Mic, just placed right in front of the sound hole?

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  4 роки тому +1

      Shoulder mic is often very close to shoulder. Close enough to kiss it. Haha how else to describe it?! Front mic is usually by the 14th fret or on the neck side to avoid being in front of the hole.

    • @raymondlooi
      @raymondlooi 4 роки тому

      ​@@creativesoundlab Appreciate your reply with patience! 😄 I got your idea and I just did a test on it with SM57 pointed to 12th fret and small diaphragm Mic above shoulder (I didn't kiss the mic, but it knocked on my head 😭). YES, this is the best recording technic and sound so sweet! 😍 Thanks again for your efforts!

  • @AnshYadav-ki9ph
    @AnshYadav-ki9ph 21 день тому

    Really nice video.. Which audio interface should I buy, and does it will affect the tone or audio quality of the Mics ? Should I go for Audient id4 or Volt 276 ?
    Thanks for the informative video it really helps.

  • @goldensleeves
    @goldensleeves 5 років тому +1

    What would you call this stereo micing technique? Also, how far are the mics from the guitar? Also, why does the mic from above sound so good? I would expect that it would not have much detail but it sound clearer than the mic actually facing the guitar. Thanks in advance. Great video. Subscribed.

  • @joshuagutierrez8407
    @joshuagutierrez8407 2 роки тому

    Great video! Wow, you made this sound like a million bucks! At the beginning you said you had been double-mic’ing for other things. Now I’m curious what “Top-End” mics sound like using this technique.

  • @chaoticlove7988
    @chaoticlove7988 3 роки тому

    Any recommendations on mic placement on a pop/rock acoustic song just voice and acoustic guitar? I have a Rhode nt2a , sm57, and sm7b mic?

  • @StantsLOL
    @StantsLOL 3 роки тому

    Hey when I tried recording with a 57 and a condenser, the 57 was so noisy from the preamp. do you use a cloud lifter or something to get these signals up to a level without having to add a crazy amount of gain on the pre? I have a presonus 44vsl and it sounds like trash because of how much noise it takes to get a 57 up to a level to record a softly played acoustic part fingerpicked, any tips?

  • @codking82
    @codking82 4 роки тому

    so what audio interface are you using with the CREME tegeler compressor? and the sm57s

  • @TheOnlineBusker
    @TheOnlineBusker 5 років тому

    Hi, with the mic facing the guitar, did you have to turn the interface gain way up? I found the SM57 to be quite "weak" especially atthat distance, so I bought a Fethead....problem solved.

    • @creativesoundlab
      @creativesoundlab  5 років тому

      Interfaces need about 30-40% more rotation of the gain knob it seems. For me I was about half way up on the external preamps.

  • @robertsomerville320
    @robertsomerville320 5 років тому

    Amazing Sound? I have struggled to find the sound you demonstrated. I have never been able to get the acoustic strumming to sit more prominently in the mix once some drums, bass, keys, and vocal are added in. What would you suggest is the key to not letting the acoustic guitar get buried in the overall mix? (never would have guessed 2, sm-57's... wow)

  • @matthewholme297
    @matthewholme297 Рік тому

    Can I ask the sm57 is just laying on edge of desk and it picks up that sound I want to record my acoustic so hence why I'm asking

  • @pfkmsandiego
    @pfkmsandiego 3 роки тому

    i have the mic close to the acoustic and the knob for the channel input CRANKED and i can barely get my clarett 8pre to register the sound... wtf am i missing? u have the mics really far away compared to how i see most acoustic guitar recorded. seems really cool but i can't get my sm57 to register much sound... help?

  • @allendean9807
    @allendean9807 3 роки тому

    If i substituted one mic for a 58, where do you think it should be placed? High or low?

  • @anterdogan
    @anterdogan 4 роки тому

    Recently I wanted to record a Turkish Cura. I used one SM57 and placed it really closely to the instrument because I barely could get any signal into my interface. So when I saw your mic-placement, I was wondering whether you cranked up the gain on your interface or if you used a preamp in this recording. It would be great if you could give me an answer :)