WATCH IN LIKE 1.5X SPEED! Cuz I talk slow..... and Honestly this just started as us going through the tier sets on stream, but I decided to give them a "Ranking", and I have NO idea about healer stuff. Enjoy fighting with me here in the comments!
*Paladin gets mega buffed, straight up 10+ different mega buffs* *Other classes eating crumbs, some classes are given crumbs and have their actual food taken away* Average Paladin: "But what about second breakfast?" undisputed most miserably, shamelessly greedy playerbase in the game. blizzard could give paladin actual 100% immortality and paladin players would complain that the visual effect is not good enough.
ive been following you since p1 wotlk. thanks for all the info you give out. appreciate your content. Whenever it comes to tier lists, updates, or "cheese." I always look for your videos first.
The Ret set is easily S tier. It allows you to run the 2 speed 2h weapons so you don’t have to choose between twisting and spamming exorcism. Absolutely broken.
As a Ret Paladin 12:40 I am really looking forward to this and curious more than anything on how it will play out. I am also happy that Holy is getting more love and Prot feels solid overall. Ofc more things can be done and I wish we had a gap closer for PVP scenario, overall more testing to be conducted. LOCK IT IN AMIGO 🔒🔒🔒
hey jello!!! dont forget since exo is base kit now u can rune a weapon swap macro to use avengers shield again to gap close!!!!... honestly they should just make avengers shield usable regardless if 2h or not
heal priest set is not an A. that's a B- borderline C+. its going to force healing priests to run circle of healing and hardcast only prayer of healing to get aegis procs and instant flash heals. hard casting anything else will be an act of futility and penance is going to be considered griefing outside of dedicated tank healing. its also going to eat away at the priests mana pool insanely hard, so be prepared to bring tons of mana pots just to function. druids are also going to basically have to reserve any and all innervates solely for the priest. not a fan tbh... the 2 set bonus is also a massive joke... 0.1?? lmao bro might as well have put nothing there.
You should've done this with the changes to the classes and new runes. Ret Paladin will get +15% str, agi, and ap. Enh Sham got HUGE nerfs to +healing and Mental Dex rune.
Haven't played my ret since phase 1, but now for P4 I'm excited for ret! Removing Martyr from a rune and making it ability is 100% the move i wanted. Now you can use Divine storm as well! SoC was garbo
@@x7zauman910 Enhance was only surviving in PvP because of the self healing. Now that we have 33% less health and armor than Warriors, we are basically a garbage version of Warrior.
@@rumbleshakes I dueled warriors on the PTR test, and they are really, really bad. With my prot paladin in Phase 3, I had fun fights against enhancement shamans that could go either way. When I played a rogue on the PTR and dueled arms warriors, they literally died in two stuns. I'm not sure if the rogue's damage is high or if the warrior is squishy, but we're talking about plate armor, for goodness' sake.
The 6 piece feral bonus is a nice quality of life but I dont see myself ever using it over going 4pc t0/4pc t1. Ferocious bite still sucks ass and will never be pressed so those combo points can simply be used on SR, 40 energy regen on a 6% proc is too good to pass on.
Been a main holy priest true the Sod and last classic. Guess it's time to find something else to play. That Priest sett Bonus will do nothing in most cases. If you go disc priest you will most likely be spamming Shield all fight and gain 0 from sett. You go Holy and you gain some crit to COH. Flash heal and greater heal is in most cases not even used. We go oom if we use it. We are 100% going to be needing resto druid to innervate us all boss fights now.
its a season of discovery, that has already been confirmed to be something tdifferent than classic. They should just make pally's and shaman available to each faction
While I hate stance dancing (even though you can macro everything and do it passively), I feel like this set fits with the new runes. With Sudden Death, Executes dumping all your rage, and it seems to proc around once every 10 seconds (more for glad stance as devastate counts as two hits), so the play seems to double swap before the fight starts to get 10% damage and 10% crit, then gain rage until Sudden Death procs, dump rage with your execute, then swap back and forth really quick. This would keep the buffs up around 100% of the time (since the % damage runes we had to keep up got removed) with minimal loss of rage.
I see the ranged hunter rotation being: Aimed shot > trap > 2x Chimera > frenzy and multi-shot rinse and repeat. Unless they buff the ever live hell out of aimed shot and nerfing chimera into the ground I dont see aimed overtaking chimera.
I like the way ranged hunter is looking in terms of rotation. They really doubled down on increasing the skill ceiling but it will still be solid for players who can’t maximize the rotation. That being said I don’t understand the Giantstalker set bonuses. They just don’t seem to be of any real use especially with chimera still being so strong. The tracking thing is just another thing to keep in mind on top of an already complex rotation. All and all I’m still super hyped for P4 with my ranged hunter and with my rogue.
That feral Bear set is trash. 20% threat bump? Bro I’m 65% ahead of everyone already in threat. Lacerate is God Tier threat at the moment, literally all of those set bonuses are total trash, Bear will probably just use off pieces with better stats
It‘s always the same with feral tanks… they dont really get any good gear or other stuffs… tanking is not bad but would wish some love from blizzard like shamans or warriors
Warrior dps set seems awesome for pvp. With focused mind it means you start every fight with 25 rage (40 with charge) and can now use sweeping strikes in berserker stance (at least for the next 6 sec after swapping stance) which means you dont have to loose your rage when in zerk stance
stance swapping for overpowers was already a thing on single target if you wanted to be a good parser in classic era so this is prob just gonna add a higher damage bonus for doing that it will be interesting for sure im not gonna say good or bad yet lol
I think what wasn't menition is that Melee hunter 6pc also lets you Mongoose on Misses. Assuming a DW hunter gets special hit capped they still have like 19% auto attack miss chance? This means you can use Mongoose a lot of the time. Furthermore, the new chest rune adds 40% of attack power to it as damage, and if I've seen how bloodthirst scales with attack power it could be pretty solid. It then feeds into melee specialist gfiving you more Raptor resets which in turn gives you more of everything. The 6pc bonus *Might* make DW melee hunter decent.
A lot of people are forgetting the amount of aoe fights that exist in mc. Half the fights are cleave fights... and this iteration of starfall is from wrath, not cata. Wrath starfall is broken asf
The seal twisting thing only made sense if they kept our mana regen from SoM, the way it is now paladins will literally oom within 10 seconds of a boss fight if seal twisting and going full rotation, unless they just want you to twist SoW with SoM so ur constantly getting mana back, idk. Mana costs need to be fixed over all, 1kmana for the new heal is expensive as fuck so it wont be used over flash of liight spam lmao.
that might set for warriors is so annoying, the 4 set where you can use abilities after you change, means you now how to remap all your keys so all abilities are either on global bars or on the new stance bars, i'll just go prot/gladiater till wrath, just seem way too annoying, and yeah also my shaman ofc, might try ele this time round.
Man I really liked playing melee hunter.. But the changes to raptor strike and the fact it's pretty much a dead class now destroys the motivation I had for phase 4.
Wishing the Spriest changes were implemented as a base with the MF 6 piece bonus, prior to getting that set bonus and after we replace we are back to square one. Also i see comments about the OP of us in PvP of course, no brainer BUT the rune move of VP to boots is going hinder us immensely, no defensives and VP hardcasting plus it ticking for 150 doesn’t equate to the nerf of losing a major part of the toolkit
The rune move feels pretty bad for both pve and pvp. The tier set will only feel good if they increase the range of mind flay. 24yd range compared to 36 on everything else. Great 6pc bonus but they have to increase the range or, regardless of damage, it’s going to feel awful to play.
@@moroth9541 problem is there is no rune option outside that, stuck with garbage pet cds and keeping up 3 dots to do less dmg than tanks virtually all feedback for the last 2 phases was we want a way to remove utility to do damage
Welcome to classic wow lol. That was one of the things I thought was cool about classic. Sometimes items would last you throughout multiple phases depending on the buff and the classes use of it. It’s nice to not throw away all your gear every time a new phase drops.
Different way to look at I guess. I hated having to wear the Bloodvine set for way too long and that there more than half of the BiS gear in phase 1 of vanilla for Warlocks was from dungeons. Or even green "of shadow wrath" gear. IMO should maximum one or two pieces be bis across several phases. Losing the crit of the bleeds won't be an option even in Naxx I guess.
F for all the Shadow Priest changes... sure the 6-set bonus is nice, but without it, everything for SP is just ass. Another phase where you're the worst DPS. Even lower DPS than all tanks.
80% reduced healing per jump on healing wave is almost nothing, really disappointed. We needed some healing rain/stream buffs. Something uncapped cause we're bottom feeders in HPS rn. With paladins getting 60 min buffs I was hoping we'd get raid wide totems so that healing stream can benefit everyone. Or give us conductivity to replicate a portion of healing done while healing rain is up. This all feels very disappointing
WAIT?!?! Evocation becomes ICEBLOCK?!?!?!? But they are still pushing mage to heal. that is beating a DEAD rotting corpse. mage players dont want to heal!
As a retail player, I am amazed at how much retail is seeping into SoD. Is this what the community wanted for V+? Never thought I’d hear people discuss flex and m+ raids in Classic
Warriors got hosed, less damage immediately now u get to micro manage more for the same and wow i like that GLAD gets the damage buff so now u HAVE to run glad rune....yaaaaaayyy *sigh*
For the love of God, Sarthe, PLEASE tell me what the updated materials are to make Sulfuras. Do we still need 8x of a 30% droprate ingot, that can only drop off 1 boss a week?
Warrior is dead with the changes they made to runes so ye this set means nothing... and getting a 6set will take ages as well. Well GGs to all Warrior players in SOD its been a nice ride in P1 and P3.
Stats on the hunter tier set are awful, no attack power and extra spirit? Looks like they were barely even touched since vanilla, just +1% hit which is underwhelming. And those tier set bonuses for both specs are awful, makes you not even wanna play the class
I don't think it's being old, the stance dancing play style is just dumb and cluncky. granted i haven't played since P3. but this stance dancing bullshit isn't it.
Imo you are a bit biased against shamans and start complaining before reading the bonuses properly. A) Shamans already get the 4-piece bonus in a sense by power surge. B) The chance to proc is 35% WHEN you land a LB crit, which automatically makes this a very low proc (and not 100% of the time as you imply) C) you downplay the fact that by spamming CL you are OOM in 10-15 sec, coupled with the fact that Shamanistic Rage now returns half the mana it used to. I think mana management around this rune is what's going to make this change distinguish the elite from average players as the average guy will hurt their dps more by spamming CL. Initially I see this working as an "execute" phase where you basically dump all your remaining mana when the fight is almost over D) No mention of the flat 120 SP loss from Burn nerf.
Mage and all the clases he thinks are s there all wrong hunter beats them all mage is trash can get beast mastered down warrior sucks lol and hat his choice his thoughts
@@stagnacja1you're playing a dumb down arcade version of the game what do you expect. Also hilarious to see all the hunters complain after being one of the two most broken classes all of sod
@@Hourani95 that’s delusional. So a slight loss in spell power somehow doesn’t get made up for by the new insta root, baseline shamanistic rage, and the absolutely disgusting tier set bonus on the ele tier? lol. Shaman will be even stronger this phase.
Every phase you've been EXTREMELY WRONG, it wouldn't surprise if you're wrong again thsi time.... for example the S tier will be the worst DPS and the D tier will be the best dps, if things go as you're previous ranking.
WATCH IN LIKE 1.5X SPEED! Cuz I talk slow..... and Honestly this just started as us going through the tier sets on stream, but I decided to give them a "Ranking", and I have NO idea about healer stuff. Enjoy fighting with me here in the comments!
Now I'm going to watch at 0.75 speed just to spite your request
Bwauahahaha
I recommend changing the sound of the hammer of righteous to that of a wet noodle, as the damage it deals no longer deserves such an epic sound.
*Paladin gets mega buffed, straight up 10+ different mega buffs*
*Other classes eating crumbs, some classes are given crumbs and have their actual food taken away*
Average Paladin: "But what about second breakfast?"
undisputed most miserably, shamelessly greedy playerbase in the game.
blizzard could give paladin actual 100% immortality and paladin players would complain that the visual effect is not good enough.
@@ZugzugZugzugson Is that a rogue crying? Cheap Shot + Kidney shot kills 90% off classes blud get out of here lmao
@@valorf666 nah i play shaman and priest, but close i guess.
@@ZugzugZugzugson shaman kekw even worse 🤣
The sound of that ability doesn’t sound good to begin with
ive been following you since p1 wotlk. thanks for all the info you give out. appreciate your content. Whenever it comes to tier lists, updates, or "cheese." I always look for your videos first.
The Ret set is easily S tier. It allows you to run the 2 speed 2h weapons so you don’t have to choose between twisting and spamming exorcism. Absolutely broken.
Rogue tank set looking real promising!!!
Yess! I’m so exited about it!
Finally I’ll play on my rogue alt
As a Ret Paladin 12:40 I am really looking forward to this and curious more than anything on how it will play out. I am also happy that Holy is getting more love and Prot feels solid overall. Ofc more things can be done and I wish we had a gap closer for PVP scenario, overall more testing to be conducted.
LOCK IT IN AMIGO 🔒🔒🔒
hey jello!!! dont forget since exo is base kit now u can rune a weapon swap macro to use avengers shield again to gap close!!!!... honestly they should just make avengers shield usable regardless if 2h or not
@@queenmarsia yep but has long has warrior have death grip // melee hunt movement speed ... we could expect some MS too with justice sceal for exemple
@@pegazuss5 you make a good point.... they need to do somthing with seal of justice. at the very least make it so it limits speed like in TBC
heal priest set is not an A. that's a B- borderline C+.
its going to force healing priests to run circle of healing and hardcast only prayer of healing to get aegis procs and instant flash heals. hard casting anything else will be an act of futility and penance is going to be considered griefing outside of dedicated tank healing. its also going to eat away at the priests mana pool insanely hard, so be prepared to bring tons of mana pots just to function. druids are also going to basically have to reserve any and all innervates solely for the priest.
not a fan tbh... the 2 set bonus is also a massive joke... 0.1?? lmao bro might as well have put nothing there.
spazz maticus, a young kind on a mad quest to rule the world
@@smokapopierdolio1157 _dramatic camera zoom_
Non-healing mages: those tier bonuses look great!
Healing mages: all these are trash!
You should've done this with the changes to the classes and new runes. Ret Paladin will get +15% str, agi, and ap. Enh Sham got HUGE nerfs to +healing and Mental Dex rune.
Haven't played my ret since phase 1, but now for P4 I'm excited for ret! Removing Martyr from a rune and making it ability is 100% the move i wanted. Now you can use Divine storm as well! SoC was garbo
They should nerf Ele shaman not Ench
@@x7zauman910 Enhance was only surviving in PvP because of the self healing. Now that we have 33% less health and armor than Warriors, we are basically a garbage version of Warrior.
@@rumbleshakes I dueled warriors on the PTR test, and they are really, really bad. With my prot paladin in Phase 3, I had fun fights against enhancement shamans that could go either way. When I played a rogue on the PTR and dueled arms warriors, they literally died in two stuns. I'm not sure if the rogue's damage is high or if the warrior is squishy, but we're talking about plate armor, for goodness' sake.
@@x7zauman910 How are Frost Mages or Ele Shams?
its like some of these devs have never really played some classes and have no idea how they're played
The 6 piece feral bonus is a nice quality of life but I dont see myself ever using it over going 4pc t0/4pc t1. Ferocious bite still sucks ass and will never be pressed so those combo points can simply be used on SR, 40 energy regen on a 6% proc is too good to pass on.
Holy Paladin's 6 set heals the TARGETS party not just the Holy Paladin's party. Kind of like Druid's wild growth..
Bruh devs are horde enjoyers for sure
scary part of these set bonuses is i feel like youll have to carry them through other p5 tier sets.
Been a main holy priest true the Sod and last classic. Guess it's time to find something else to play. That Priest sett Bonus will do nothing in most cases. If you go disc priest you will most likely be spamming Shield all fight and gain 0 from sett. You go Holy and you gain some crit to COH. Flash heal and greater heal is in most cases not even used. We go oom if we use it. We are 100% going to be needing resto druid to innervate us all boss fights now.
Totally agree, we may as well reroll to resto druid as they are getting even better mana regen and aoe healing.
They need to let alliance play shamans if they want to continue making that class broken
its a season of discovery, that has already been confirmed to be something tdifferent than classic. They should just make pally's and shaman available to each faction
No.
I don't like stance dancing which is why I went Gladiator Stance but I'm wondering how that set bonus benefits us.
While I hate stance dancing (even though you can macro everything and do it passively), I feel like this set fits with the new runes.
With Sudden Death, Executes dumping all your rage, and it seems to proc around once every 10 seconds (more for glad stance as devastate counts as two hits), so the play seems to double swap before the fight starts to get 10% damage and 10% crit, then gain rage until Sudden Death procs, dump rage with your execute, then swap back and forth really quick. This would keep the buffs up around 100% of the time (since the % damage runes we had to keep up got removed) with minimal loss of rage.
I see the ranged hunter rotation being: Aimed shot > trap > 2x Chimera > frenzy and multi-shot rinse and repeat. Unless they buff the ever live hell out of aimed shot and nerfing chimera into the ground I dont see aimed overtaking chimera.
I like the way ranged hunter is looking in terms of rotation. They really doubled down on increasing the skill ceiling but it will still be solid for players who can’t maximize the rotation. That being said I don’t understand the Giantstalker set bonuses. They just don’t seem to be of any real use especially with chimera still being so strong. The tracking thing is just another thing to keep in mind on top of an already complex rotation. All and all I’m still super hyped for P4 with my ranged hunter and with my rogue.
That feral Bear set is trash.
20% threat bump? Bro I’m 65% ahead of everyone already in threat. Lacerate is God Tier threat at the moment, literally all of those set bonuses are total trash, Bear will probably just use off pieces with better stats
It‘s always the same with feral tanks… they dont really get any good gear or other stuffs… tanking is not bad but would wish some love from blizzard like shamans or warriors
Yeah ferals have really good threat, love me some bear tank
Warrior dps set seems awesome for pvp. With focused mind it means you start every fight with 25 rage (40 with charge) and can now use sweeping strikes in berserker stance (at least for the next 6 sec after swapping stance) which means you dont have to loose your rage when in zerk stance
They only did that for overpower being a huge rage waste when switching from berz to battle.
stance swapping for overpowers was already a thing on single target if you wanted to be a good parser in classic era so this is prob just gonna add a higher damage bonus for doing that it will be interesting for sure im not gonna say good or bad yet lol
Can they move priests away from fcking flash heal, it's bullshit they keep tryna give us runes and sets for it
Boomie got so so screwed. THORNS BUFF??! WTF BLIZZARD?! IT DOES ZERO DAMAGE AND WE AREN'T EVEN MELEE! Weak set for us all around honestly.
I think what wasn't menition is that Melee hunter 6pc also lets you Mongoose on Misses. Assuming a DW hunter gets special hit capped they still have like 19% auto attack miss chance? This means you can use Mongoose a lot of the time. Furthermore, the new chest rune adds 40% of attack power to it as damage, and if I've seen how bloodthirst scales with attack power it could be pretty solid.
It then feeds into melee specialist gfiving you more Raptor resets which in turn gives you more of everything.
The 6pc bonus *Might* make DW melee hunter decent.
Warlock tier set is ass. 😂
Warlocks can max out at 100% dodge chance as well with demonic grace and their boots rune. I'm sitting on 85% right now without world buffs
Rogue is not supposed to attack prot pala from in front
How does one see the logs from test realm?
Holy Shield not having charges is insane for maintaining crush immunity.
I stuck out playing Boomkin for THESE tier bonuses. FML
A lot of people are forgetting the amount of aoe fights that exist in mc. Half the fights are cleave fights... and this iteration of starfall is from wrath, not cata. Wrath starfall is broken asf
The seal twisting thing only made sense if they kept our mana regen from SoM, the way it is now paladins will literally oom within 10 seconds of a boss fight if seal twisting and going full rotation, unless they just want you to twist SoW with SoM so ur constantly getting mana back, idk. Mana costs need to be fixed over all, 1kmana for the new heal is expensive as fuck so it wont be used over flash of liight spam lmao.
that might set for warriors is so annoying, the 4 set where you can use abilities after you change, means you now how to remap all your keys so all abilities are either on global bars or on the new stance bars, i'll just go prot/gladiater till wrath, just seem way too annoying, and yeah also my shaman ofc, might try ele this time round.
Man I really liked playing melee hunter.. But the changes to raptor strike and the fact it's pretty much a dead class now destroys the motivation I had for phase 4.
melee hunter definitely dead feel bad for y'all
Get over yourself it’s ptr
SO you loved spamming 1 button?
Im glad its getting reworked, ranged hunter is 100x more fun
@@3driba its 2 buttons :)
Yeah cos ele shamans really need a boost to their dmg when it comes to pvp.. Blizzard sayin they will balance things was a late april fools joke
Literally ptr chill out 😂
Wishing the Spriest changes were implemented as a base with the MF 6 piece bonus, prior to getting that set bonus and after we replace we are back to square one. Also i see comments about the OP of us in PvP of course, no brainer BUT the rune move of VP to boots is going hinder us immensely, no defensives and VP hardcasting plus it ticking for 150 doesn’t equate to the nerf of losing a major part of the toolkit
The rune move feels pretty bad for both pve and pvp. The tier set will only feel good if they increase the range of mind flay. 24yd range compared to 36 on everything else. Great 6pc bonus but they have to increase the range or, regardless of damage, it’s going to feel awful to play.
DPS rogues are 100% going 4 and 4 with .5 and nightslayer.
Tranquility bonus worse then it sounds since its only party wide in vanilla
honestly a pure tank bear will tank i still think will have the most dmg mitigation.
what do u mean Enhanc have to drop WF? Get a feral in grp and drop AGility totem is % more dmg
Can you share the log link here too plz
AMAZING, i agree with the entire video
i'm sure every phase sarthe gives spriest high ranking while spriest disc is in depression over how shit it is
@@moroth9541 problem is there is no rune option outside that, stuck with garbage pet cds and keeping up 3 dots to do less dmg than tanks
virtually all feedback for the last 2 phases was we want a way to remove utility to do damage
Where can I find this Datamined warlock tank weapon? I can't find it anywhere :( Would appreciate the help.
Doesn't it seem like the feral 4 piece bonus is so good that you don't want to lose it in later tiers? Being stuck with old gear feels bad.
Welcome to classic wow lol. That was one of the things I thought was cool about classic. Sometimes items would last you throughout multiple phases depending on the buff and the classes use of it. It’s nice to not throw away all your gear every time a new phase drops.
Different way to look at I guess. I hated having to wear the Bloodvine set for way too long and that there more than half of the BiS gear in phase 1 of vanilla for Warlocks was from dungeons. Or even green "of shadow wrath" gear. IMO should maximum one or two pieces be bis across several phases. Losing the crit of the bleeds won't be an option even in Naxx I guess.
F for all the Shadow Priest changes... sure the 6-set bonus is nice, but without it, everything for SP is just ass.
Another phase where you're the worst DPS. Even lower DPS than all tanks.
There has to be way more coming for priests
And yet you dominate pvp. What did you expect
80% reduced healing per jump on healing wave is almost nothing, really disappointed. We needed some healing rain/stream buffs. Something uncapped cause we're bottom feeders in HPS rn. With paladins getting 60 min buffs I was hoping we'd get raid wide totems so that healing stream can benefit everyone. Or give us conductivity to replicate a portion of healing done while healing rain is up. This all feels very disappointing
Have they reverted the pvp damage nerf ? If so ill come back! I was enjoying warrior.
Its not that war will be complicated its that idk if we will ever know what is bis sudden death tho idc if its not bis the animation auto makes it bis
Shamans gonna f up pvp also in the next phase, gj blizzard
We don't have world buffs?
What you mean noone gonna play as melee hunter . is it that bad?
WAIT?!?! Evocation becomes ICEBLOCK?!?!?!?
But they are still pushing mage to heal. that is beating a DEAD rotting corpse. mage players dont want to heal!
as a warrior main, i am happy i quitted p4
being mega forced to stance dance would made me quit anyway
They really butchered hunter huh? Atleast ferals are lookin nice, happy for you guys.
this is the third boomkin set thats entirely useless wtf
As a retail player, I am amazed at how much retail is seeping into SoD. Is this what the community wanted for V+?
Never thought I’d hear people discuss flex and m+ raids in Classic
hope the money is worth destroying the playerbase sarthe, not too late to turn back on SoD
Warriors got hosed, less damage immediately now u get to micro manage more for the same and wow i like that GLAD gets the damage buff so now u HAVE to run glad rune....yaaaaaayyy *sigh*
FERAL DPS HYPE!!!!
For the love of God, Sarthe, PLEASE tell me what the updated materials are to make Sulfuras. Do we still need 8x of a 30% droprate ingot, that can only drop off 1 boss a week?
"someone playing druid" you will need someone playing sod 1st 😂😂😂
I'm playing and allot of people are. You got be a retail Andy.
@@AaronVanAlstine-f7y true sukers will play sod 🤣🤣🤣
@@AaronVanAlstine-f7y wish u the best when pug from those "allot of people", I know you enjoy it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@whoo2975 why are you watching these videos?
@@AaronVanAlstine-f7y why are you replying my comments? btw hows them "allot of people"- fast pug going?
Warrior is dead with the changes they made to runes so ye this set means nothing... and getting a 6set will take ages as well. Well GGs to all Warrior players in SOD its been a nice ride in P1 and P3.
Mained feral phase 1 and rogue phase 2 and 3. Hmmm should i switch back to feral?
Why not both?
@Sxndri with my job and responsibilities, it's hard to main two characters. I like focusing on one
Please no world buffs in instances /raids
These devs just don’t play war…
Wow. Shamans will be once again broken. And warlock set is fail. What a surprise
Why is melee hunter dead btw?
They do 1/3rd of the damage they did at level 50, don’t provide any raid buff and their rotation is now a clunky mess. It’s just not a thing anymore
@@zdubzz1280 spamming 1 button was a rotation?
@@3dribaidk Man ask mages, muti rogues, ele shams xD
Did you ever play ele sham ?
This community has a tendency to think if your class isnt #1 its useless and dead, and shouldnt be played
Any heal enjoyers in chat?
Resto sham restu dudu and disc rdy to be lvld 🤣
Stats on the hunter tier set are awful, no attack power and extra spirit? Looks like they were barely even touched since vanilla, just +1% hit which is underwhelming. And those tier set bonuses for both specs are awful, makes you not even wanna play the class
He said like 5 times that stats are not updated/accurate, just the setbonuses are.
@@chocrikir655 thnx that changes things significantly. too bad the class skills got nerfed to the ground anyway
I'm getting to old to play warrior at a high level.
I feel you
I don't think it's being old, the stance dancing play style is just dumb and cluncky. granted i haven't played since P3. but this stance dancing bullshit isn't it.
@@Feneckou It will for sure feel like ass to play at the start, maybe it can be engaging enough to make Molten Core fun again
Rise my Boomie brothers, only 2 more Hours and we are back. ( we didnt make D tier - we re viable now ) /s
massive rogue hype
warrior is dead now, i really dont want to stance dance that is so a bad playstyle
Warrior set was screwed over
They really hate hunters.
Imo you are a bit biased against shamans and start complaining before reading the bonuses properly. A) Shamans already get the 4-piece bonus in a sense by power surge. B) The chance to proc is 35% WHEN you land a LB crit, which automatically makes this a very low proc (and not 100% of the time as you imply) C) you downplay the fact that by spamming CL you are OOM in 10-15 sec, coupled with the fact that Shamanistic Rage now returns half the mana it used to. I think mana management around this rune is what's going to make this change distinguish the elite from average players as the average guy will hurt their dps more by spamming CL. Initially I see this working as an "execute" phase where you basically dump all your remaining mana when the fight is almost over D) No mention of the flat 120 SP loss from Burn nerf.
wtf is that ranged hunter set man... so sad
This is the most boring P4 Updates for real
Just as I was starting to like the class changes… holy hell those warrior sets are lazy af.
season of shamans are still going strong. Ill stay away from this mess
Shadowpriest OP in pvp... lets buff again ... and NERF HUNTER ALREADY!
GG Hunter is Meh looks like Cata it is...
NOT fun CHANGING stance all time..this is stupid..its nOT pvp..
Mage and all the clases he thinks are s there all wrong hunter beats them all mage is trash can get beast mastered down warrior sucks lol and hat his choice his thoughts
Vanilla > sod. We wanted classic plus not retail minus
Hunters butchered to bottom dps phase 4. Good work blizzard for making the class unplayable
Ranged hunter will be very good
@@brandonwilson4740 trap - chimera - trap - chimera spam ? no thnx
@@stagnacja1you're playing a dumb down arcade version of the game what do you expect. Also hilarious to see all the hunters complain after being one of the two most broken classes all of sod
@@Keyy7787 what you write i know you never play as a hunter .
Are there rlly still people that care about sod?
THIS is why I wont be coming back to SOD...Shamans. FFS nerf them already
Cry more
I bet pvp situation going to get worse in p4.
@@tonysopranope4268lmao, sod is all you got cuz you are a loser irl. 😂😂😂
pvp sham are dead in the water, mental dex and burn runes nerfed bigtime.
@@Hourani95 that’s delusional. So a slight loss in spell power somehow doesn’t get made up for by the new insta root, baseline shamanistic rage, and the absolutely disgusting tier set bonus on the ele tier? lol. Shaman will be even stronger this phase.
Sarthe why tf u even playing sod lol u do know cata is out right? 😅
Every phase you've been EXTREMELY WRONG, it wouldn't surprise if you're wrong again thsi time.... for example the S tier will be the worst DPS and the D tier will be the best dps, if things go as you're previous ranking.
lol hella dumb, no wonder SOD fell over.