This is a shady sponsorship my friend: With the exception of Product Key Cards (PKC’s) distributed with COA’s, Microsoft does not distribute products keys as standalone products. - If you see a listing on an auction site, online classified ad, or other online page advertising product keys for sale, it’s a good indication that the keys are likely stolen or counterfeit. - If you were to purchase and use a stolen or counterfeit product key to activate Windows installed on your PC, the key may not work for activation, may already be in use on another PC, or it might be blocked from use later by Microsoft when the key is reported stolen.
There's no perfect TV but I think it's fair to say Bravia 9 is truly remarkable progress for MiniLED. Sony sprinkled magic dust on the backlight masterdrive (increase in zones and 22 bit precision) and it is just wonderful!
All this to do a 50% brighter picture over OLED. And still small highlights unfortunately dimmer. 🤷♂️ much easier with self emissive pixels. Can’t believe they don’t offer 97”. They offer poor x90L but not their flagship.
Sony rests on their laurels as a company but when they decide to innovate they definitely come out swinging, I don't think anyone expected a TV that looks almost as good as a $30k mastering monitor and trades blows with OLED in dark room performance.
@@Mike-jm5wt they can do indeed but I’m afraid they will lose the game. TCL is smashing in mini led space and with bigger better models available will definitely overtake that space. Whereas Samsung and LG already get close in processing to Sony, close enough that usually big price disparity doesn’t justify the difference. There will be only die hard Sony fans. I can see Sony selling its business down the line.
@@whitecrowuk575 sony will sell TVs even if profit isn't good, think of how valuable it is to have that Sony logo in front of people day in and day out. Also if the Chinese brands get too good watch governments suddenly label them as CCP spyware like they did to Huawei
The Bravia 9 is literally going to shock the world. It's going to win the King of TV's shootout this year (beating out both OLED and QD-OLED TVs) and that's going to make people heads explode all over the world! Yeah, I just saw it for the first time today and it's THAT good. You won't even believe it when you see it.
Best less than 17 minute video of all time! Your discussion covers the most important attributes of these very nice premium TVs. Thank you for being the great partner you are, and for your support to the video industry.
Hi Robert!, I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved to another State (I left it in my parent’s house). Do you think the 85” Hisense U8N or the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 will be somehow in the same level as the Sony Z9D or should I just save up and wait to get the 85” Bravia 9 or the 85” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and some shows, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month in my living room. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙏🏽
I asked fomo I similar question a while back . Ashamed to admit I ignored his advice and bought a sony xr85x95j. Mainly use tv for football and movies, had to return tv ( dse & vignette) got 77inch lg c1 and never looked back. Even on this video you can see grey area on pan video ( Lucy army of d) the panel lottery is so much harder with large led tvs , and that's exactly what fomo originally told me.
I’m a LG CX owner and have been looking at the S90D as a replacement, I went to Best Buy to look at OLEDs, walked over to Sony to check out the A80L & A95L, and was blown away by the Bravia 9 that was next to the Sony OLEDs. I never thought I’d leave OLED. If you haven’t seen it in person, please do. It’s REALLY good. Now I’m researching Bravia 9.
Did you look at the Lg G4 ? That tv looked incredible when I went this week. I don’t know if the Bravia 9 was on display. I’ll be going back to compare the two.
That sounded like my experience. I was looking at a 8k and the best buy worker was real with me and told me I didn't need it. Showed me the bravia 9 and I was blown away. Did some lricing and found it at sony with my military discount and got the 85 inch for $4700
I just received my new Bravia 9 yesterday and absolutely love it ❤I’m a SONY man and always get the new model. I haven’t messed with the settings yet but thank you for the recommendations. Love ur videos 😊
Have been a longtime fan of Sony myself, having had 3 landmark Sony TVs between 1989 & the Sony OLED we still have now, including a 35" Sony 198 lb. tabletop CRT MONSTER that the TV review magazines, in late 1997 & early 1998, were calling the best TV for squeezing the most picture quality out of the then NEW video format: DVD.
I have it already, it's great except be prepared for blooming. There absolutely is blooming and it's worse than the TV I just replaced, my 2018 Samsung Q8FN with only 40 dimming zones. Samsung at the time was prioritizing blooming control over everything so highlights were not spectacular however there was absolutely no blooming on this q8fn. Black level is insanely good and I prefer this kind of an algorithm. The Bravia 9 prioritizes blindingly bright highlights over blooming control and it really shows, I see quite a bit of blooming which is disappointing. That said it's not terrible.
@@TonyDAngelo-ot7ny I've owned WOLED - an A80K and C3 and I did not like either of them. I do not like how WOLED uses a white subpixel. I find it gives the image an inescapable blue push along with diluted looking color production. They also have terrible brightness stability. I like HDR and QLED provides a much more impressive HDR experience. I considered buying a Samsung QD-OLED, but they also have bad brightness stability and no OLED has impressive peak brightness despite the deceptive marketing in that regard.
Bravia 9 is crazy expensive in the UK., the 65 inches not available, while the 75 inches is considerably more expensive than in the US. As a result it is going to be out of reach for me and the majority of video enthusiasts. Sony’s marketing policy is alienating its own potential customers, congratulations Sony!
@@Buzza235 wait for a sale next year mate. I paid £3300 for my 77inch c1 , put it up for sale at £1250 - these bigger tvs are hard to shift both private and in store here in uk .
Hurts my feelings a bit to know that the Bravia 9 costs 1000 USD less in the States compared to where I live, but after this video I am convinced that it will be worth every single dime. I just pulled the plug on the 75 inch one. I don't think I have seen this much hype for a Sony TV ever.
Coming from a 2017 Samsung 60" LCD, I only stream, sports and Blu-ray, NO GAMING and In the tropics with five 5' windows in living room. I also don't watch TV in the dark - minimum is with ambient light. My room size is 13' x 13 - no off angle issues expected. I will be buying the 85'' Sony Bravia 9. This choice is based on the wisdom I got from you, and Brian - consider ones "Use Case". Thanks a million FOMO. Big up yaself sametime!!
A calibrated 85" Z9K Owner from V.E. One thing that really sticks out to me is the cost ... the 85" B nearly half the cost of the Z9K. What size TV's were used in your review? Gotta say the old standby continues to hold true and that is what is the light environment where the TV is depends on what TV tech to go with. Both techs improve year by year that in real life viewing it comes down to one's personal preference. Those torture test comparisons are coming to the point of splitting hairs. Great Review. T.Y. 👍😊
Sony Bravia 9 &8 I bought both of them from value electronics. Thank you Robert for your advice. It worked out very well for me. Please buy from value electronics.
Thank you! We enjoyed working with you too! We have a friendly discussion with every customer to learn about their use-case and environment so we can make the best TV recommendation(s) that best match their application.
@@CaBdosdos Looks like Sony has permanently lowered the prices on all screen sizes of the BRAVIA 9 QD MiniLED TV, 85" 4,799, 75" $3,499, 65" 2,999. with free Nationwide delivery, and we have promotions on all of Sony's perfectly matched audio and headphone products with very nice bundle discounts.
Great video, all information in a compact 15 minutes video. Thanks! I went with the S95D, replacing my old KS9590 LED. Love it! Never had such a clean panel before -with zero banding!
Honestly, if you're rich, the Bravia 9 is the best of both worlds. It has everything i like about LCD with the strenghs of a OLED. AND its a Sony TV, so it also has the best color accuracy and processing on the market. Truly outstanding.
Yeah, but it's missing OLEDs main strengths. Edge to edge brightness, dark color performance, pixel refresh time to name a few. Things it seems LCD will never overcome at this point.
I have the 75" Bravia 9 and I absolutely love it! Best TV I've ever owned, and funny enough not the most expensive. I love it so much more than any OLED I've ever had, including the A95L!
In terms of colours, Sony's TV's usually knocks it out of the park. I bought a ZF9 master series TV back in 2019 and now I can only buy Sony TV's because no other TV is capable of matching the colours of a Sony TV (and they look the most true to life to me). I'm not a Sony fanboy, I don't even have a PS5. I had their first wireless earbuds with noise cancelling, but did not opt to get a new Sony one because they tend to have battery issues (I don't know what it is with Sony and trash batteries. All of their earbuds have battery durability issues and their wireless controllers also all have battery durability issues).
Read up on quantum dots but the short version is they convert led light into pure white which then gets filtered by the lcd layer to create all the colors, but because the white is so pure the resulting colors are far more vibrant compared to non QD light sources.
@@whitecrowuk575no TCL advocate has ever answered my question on longevity. I buy a TV to last 10 years, will a tcl be as good in 8 to 10 years of heavy usage? My Sony have always lasted 10 years at still a quality colour and picture.
I am guessing that you never clocked that FOMO had the Sony in vivid mode to try and make it appear more pimped out than it actually is? FOMO - you should be way better than this. We don't want clickbait - give us accurate reviews sir, you can't claim anything is better whilst completely pimping out both the product and your camera settings. If you are going to make wild claims - give us the data that backs it all up.
I'm impressed with the B9 when you increased your camera exposure on that star scene. It has near OLED black detail. IRL the lifted black on the QM8 wouldn't be that noticeable though.
I'd take infinite contrast over brightness any day of the week. These OLEDs came a long way. G4 with MLA is extremely bright TV. Still the Bravia 9 is very impressive for a mini led technology
Last year, the 85-inch and 75-inch versions of the X95L model had different display panels, with the 85-inch version having a better panel. Therefore, if you bought the 65-inch or 75-inch X95L, you got a lower-quality panel compared to the 85-inch. How are things this year with the Bravia 9 (XR90)? Does the display quality vary depending on the display size? Are there any differences in sound or other features based on the display size?
I was so sure I was going to get the Bravia 8 this year... but after seeing the Bravia 9 next to the Bravia 8 and A95L at Best Buy, I'm not so sure anymore, lol. I'm about 60:40 in favor of the Bravia 9 now🤣
@partizanbgd0113 Interesting. I bought the A80L last year and loved it so bought the Bravia 8 for a different room recently and love it as well. Definitely plenty bright enough for me. I saw all these tvs in Best Buy and some in Costco (where I bought both of mine), and I can say there is no way I would ever go back to LCD after having OLED now.
I got my B9 few weeks ago, but there is brighten spot on the screen that is about 8" wide shape like a jelly bean located on the center left side of the screen. Contacted Sony and for three days worth of correspondent they determine it is "working within specs". I can't stand it, cause I can see it in dark scenes. So I am returning it back to Sony (bought directly). I have the LG G4 on order now.
Does it almost look like a backlight issue? I know the wide viewing filter Sony uses causes that rainbow effect and on a black screen it looks like backlight bleed. It’s driving me crazy and I’m thinking of just buying a 77 inch g3 for 1200$ less
Only thing putting me off the sony is the grey shadowing on the edges of the screen with army of the dead and lucy. Other 2 tvs are clean , the lcd tv seems to have a grey patch when camera pans ? Why ?
LG G4's price is dropping dramatically, it's already lower than Bravia 9, sony need to reconsider the price, LCD higher than OLED is not right! If Sony can not drop the price lower than OLED, I will consider LG G4. In terms of price, it's now actually G4 challenges Bravia 9.
It’s impressive I’ll say if I’m ever in a situation where the living room has a ton of light coming in in the tv. It’s nice knowing there are oled alternatives ready.
Not for me it wasn't. I returned my A95L after 4 days. It may be the brightest OLED, but nowhere near bright enough for me. The Bravia 9 blows the A95L out of the water as far as I'm concerned!
@Mike-jm5wt It's weird how OLED fans/fanboys are literally everywhere trying to defend OLED. I have a QD-OLED and I'm officially over OLED. This shit is not bright enough and ABL is a no go.
@@DV-ou1yu I think it's because most of them are video gamers and those are some of the most toxic people on the internet whereas LED owners are usually not gamers but rather movie lovers and regular human beings with children and wives and windows in their homes
@Mike-jm5wt Yea, that's a pretty bad take lol I'm a gamer and I do not like OLED like I thought I would, but then again I have a life too and don't have any interest defending a product lol. I think the best way to put it is they are tech snobs who hate light for some reason or are losers wbo waste time trying to tell you why their preference is king
I find in sport my B9 is way better in motion compared to my G4 unless you use Motion PRO or Motion Interpretation but you loose a lot of brightness then on both TV's Bravia is brighter and I find it better in all inputs compared and watching of all content , if G4 was Brightner and had better Motion without sacrificing brightness then it would win 🏆
I would never go back to LCD no matter how good the backlight is... The brightness is not everything. Nothing can beat the OLED until theres a better pixel level LED tech...imo
Sony reference monitor HX3110 is a 30K LCD monitor. So LCD as reference, not OLED. Sapienti sat. And why did you turn off the reference monitor in the viewing angle test at 11:30? I would like to see how the HX3110 performs in that regard. For me, all things considered, the Bravia 9 is a clear winner. Beautiful picture without burn in anxiety. OLED black levels are not worthy getting a burn in and, if you think hard enough, movie theatres equipped with the most advanced projectors also lag behind the OLEDs in black levels and no one is complaining about that.
I’m thinking the Bravia9 is gonna blind you in the basement and you won’t even be able to appreciate the highlights but let the community know how it worked out
@@natemekis3959 You make a very good point. You really think a lot of the brightness would be wasted in a basement setting? Wouldn’t it still however have more hdr impact than an OLED? Or, are you saying since it would be in a basement setting without having to worry about sunlight that OLED would be plenty bright? I’d probably be blown away by the 77” Bravia 8. I don’t wanna spend $5K for the A95L. What would you get for a basement? I do love Sonys processing.
Thanks for asking. I certainly don’t want to tell you what to do or be a know-it-all, but I watch a LG B7 at night/pitch dark besides the tv of course. I keep the brightness down. That infinite contrast will be what gives the image a 3D “wet” pop. Nothing beats oled it the dark. Bright living room Bravia9 all day. If you love Sony processing which I hear it great, A80L 77 or 83. Bravia8 is not a big enough leap for the money. But if you got the cash LG G4 sounds like it has great improved processing and the brightness if you want that hdr pop. I’m waiting til G4 or S90D come into my money range. Cheers.
I have a 77” LG M3 being delivered to my house tomorrow. I initially had purchased the Bravia 9 75” I’m second guessing my decision. Coming from a very old Panasonic Viera plasma which still has phenomenal blacks in dark movie scenes, I gravitated to the M3.
Local Best Buy here in Canada offered me a G4 and B9 65” for the same price. For someone who’s watching mostly Netflix Prime and basketball, very occasional gaming, not sure which one to get. Love the crispness of OLED, but also appreciate more shadow detail of mini led. To all you enthusiasts, which panel would you choose?
Started my journey on the S90D, skipped it to get the S95D because I have a very bright condo, 9 foot ceilings, mostly windows that are floor to ceiling and south west facing. The blinds that came installed in the main living space still let some light through. I didn’t like tizen and the S95D had artifacting/SOE no matter the setting for myself. A loved the finish on the screen however the diffused light could become another issue in itself. After years of hearing about LGs on UA-cam I thought the C line up was the next option, but again skipped those and went to the LG G4. Felt the colours were more accurate for what I like, yes not as saturated as the Samsung but the image just seemed way more clear, I actually don’t mind LGs OS and its motion handling is awesome. The anti reflection coating isn’t perfect as now I have glare but it absorbs most of the light and reflections. As I’m replacing a Sony X900E, I still wanted to try a Sony. The A95L pricing for a two year old tv is a hard sell in addition to its other drawbacks if you game and it’s not quite as bright as the LG too and looking at images and tests the anti reflection wasn’t as strong. So then I landed on the Bravia 9 as, like the G4 it seems like it’s the best all around option. Overall I loved the tv, from the remote, cable management, OS, SOUND, SDR was definitely brighter etc. however…. it has the WORST anti reflection of the TVs I tested. It’s so bad, it was barely better than the X900E I’m replacing. It didn’t get bright enough during the day, even in vivid mode. Directly beside the LG, the LG was way more visible and in most cases brighter in real scenes. The Bravia 9 in test settings with the white boxes will scorch your retinas… but what good is this brightness if it doesn’t translate to real use and the reflections being absolutely horrible. Sometimes I need to use vivid on the LG as well to make it more visible on the super bright days, and it was way more realistic colour wise versus the Sony (very blue). I really really wanted to love the Sony as the technology interests me and I felt safer with mini led long term. However I decided to keep the G4. I think the G4 is hands down the best all around tv in the market today.
While I am quite happy to see manufacturers improving their LCD and OLED TVs year over year, I think we have long arrived at the point, where the quality of the content is holding things back for more than the quality of the Display. Pretty much the same thing as what we can see in terms of Audio. We have all these nice standards and formats, HDR, 4K60 or 4K120 with high clarity, brightness, contrast and everything, but frequently get HDR capped at less than 500nits or even SDR in an HDR container. Hollywood clings to 24p, thus destroying most of the advantages of 4K or even 1080p as soon as movement is involved or adds artificial "digital grain" etc. On the audio side, we are seeing Atmos mixes without actual object based audio, just static 7.1.2 or at most 7.1.4 and very little Surround Sound, let alone Heigt effects. In terms of Music, we get all kinds of high-resolution containers with the audio often having the potential of exceeding what humans can hear by several orders of magnitude but the actual recording being dynamically compressed, badly recorded, mushy and not even using the available bandwidth of something like a good old Audio CD. So yes, modern TVs, AVRs and Speakers are great, but the Content industry is way behind most of the time. Sorry for ranting...🧘♀️
I’ve been saying this for years. Buying $5,000 tvs is stupid when the content itself will almost never justify that. There’s a reason almost all modern tvs look great when you watch Demo footage and footage from HDR Demo channels on UA-cam. Then you watch Netflix and other content a d it never matches that. Then you have a lot of directors you think the world looks dark and drab and no tv is going to make that content look better. Look at how Some scenes in Game of Thrones are shot, where it’s so dark you can’t see anything. A $5,000 fake “4,000 Nit” tv isn’t going to do much better than a $800 1,000 Nit TV.
I watch in a dark, light controlled room, but my budget just isn't there yet for a 77" OLED. Was really planning for an upgrade for my 65X950G in 2024 but may have to wait a year. I don't want to have to settle for blooming.
@@heikoklose84 DSE = dirty screen effect, the clouding and blotchiness that plagues LCD TVs. I assume DTM = dynamic tone mapping. DTM Off - TV uses a static table to map the input brightness of a picture to the real output brightness it is capable of rather than the static meta data provided by the content. Static meta data mostly tells the screen the minimal and maximal peak brightness of the whole movie / TV show episode. DTM On - The TV tries to guess what output brightness would look the best on a per scene level based on both the input brightness, the static meta data as well as by analyzing the scene.
👍TV Deals: Bravia 9 bit.ly/3Vlptpv Sony Quad bit.ly/3XhON2f say Fomo sent you! Sony A95L deals bit.ly/3sSpw1u Sony A80L deals bit.ly/3yYDAt8 LG G4 deals bit.ly/3PqX1QD
Hi Fomo!: I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved out of my parent’s house to another state. Are the 85” Hisense U8N and the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 good options? or should I save up and wait to get the 77” Sony A95L, the 85” Bravia 9 or the 83” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I don’t game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for replying!
@@WildWildDev G4 dethroned it sry, it brings out even more 3D depth, gets brighter and punchier and it has even better clarity. However yes A95L is far superior over the Bravia 9
I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved out of my parent’s house to another state. Are the 85” Hisense U8N and the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 good options? or should I save up and wait to get the 77” Sony A95L, the 85” Bravia 9 or the 83” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I don’t game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for replying!
What does it matter, the aim of the video is not for you to be a follower and buy what someone like but to look at the strength and weakness of each tech and decide whatrs best for you.
@@vcam-g9h do you know as much as your doctor for whatever specialist you go to? No, I don't think so. FOMO breathes this stuff everyday. He has the experience and the eyes. Yes, we do want his opinion.
@@Wileytiger-el6pu The G4 cannot be superior to the A95L because of its inferior white light tech to make things bright which will dilute the color as the tv gets brighter. The A95L QD oled uses OD color which remains bright at high brightness levels.
Well, the Bravia 9 to me looks like the best TV on the market for video viewing.... mainly because the colours just seem to be the most accurate for most part. It's basically closest to the reference monitor in like 95% of the cases. I did read about some 'bad' things related to gaming. But that was mainly from 1 source and just a few guys. Supposedly the response time is like 17-18 ms even in gaming mode when playing at 60 fps... which is only slightly better than my 2018 Z9F and far worse than some of Sony's own TV's from recent years. Well, it isn't a dealbreaker since I don't play competitively anyhow, but it is something to keep in mind at least (ideally it's something they can improve with a software update perhaps if the issue is caused by lack of software optimisation for gaming).
Thanks for the review, but what I really want to know is an 85" BRAVIA 9 worth c. £2K/$2.5K more that the already excellent 85" BRAVIA X95L -- comparison please...
Not from I have seen I seen the bravia 9 in person several times in person , the contrast is no were near oled and off viewing angles weren't great , I will take contrast over brighnesss every time and and oled is better by far when comes to gaming . Waiting on the Panasonic MLA Z95A .
Excellent stuff, it would be nice if you could compare the power consumption at sdr (same brightness ) (what people watch 90% of the time) of these tv. It would be a great reference for people who live in places with very high power prices.
Power usage is FAR lower on LCD TVs with Mini-LED back-lights than with similar size OLEDs! For example, about any model 65" LCD TV with Mini-LED back-lighting sold today, uses UNDER half the power at the same brightness level that any 65" OLED uses. OLEDs have NEVER been efficient in utilizing electrical power to produce a given level of brightness. A 2019 model Sony 77" A9G OLED we use in our basement theater room, has a maximum power use rating that's OVER 2 TIMES the maximum rated power usage of the 2014 Sharp 80" LCD TV (without Mini-LEDs) that I gave to a friend in Sept 2022, as we replaced the Sharp with Samsung's 85" QN90B LCD with Mini-LED back-lights.
@@mrb0775 wow, I knew oleds were inefficient, but I thought it would not be that different to LEDs due to transmission losses through LCD screen. I always wanted to upgrade to qdoled, but now I am thinking otherwise.
Hey, FOMO! Since the largest set our mantle area can support is 55", would you suggest going with the A95L over the Bravia 7? Side-lit living room, too.
same for me, wanted to go for the G4 in 83" and now tend to the Bravia 9 in 85" which is almost 1.000,- € less than thee G4 here in Germany. And we have a very bright living room
I know it's a difficult thing to measure and comment on but one of the most important things for me is the quality control of the tv. How bad is the dse at 85 inch? For us folks in other countries who don't have access to Robert to do quality control we have to play the panel lottery and I just had a terrible experience getting a 85 inch screen replaced due to extreme dse, I hope to never have to deal with that again.
I mean I kno the oled is the best but the mini led’s is damn close and is brighter and has deep blacks and there’s no worries about burn in I’d rather have a tv that’s bright that I can adjust then a dark tv that can’t get bright enough 🤷🏽♂️
I live in the UK and apparently the Bravia 9 officially released to stores today, but no retailer appears to be interested in getting a display model, like what the hell?
Doesn't the Sony have audio that plays through the screen and not or the back, so if you wall mount it you don't have to switch to a sound bar like you would with others [ lg, samsung, panasonic, hisense, tcl ]?
These are the 3 TVs I was between for a new living room tv. I ultimately chose the LG G4 (ordered two nights ago). The reason I chose the G4 over the Bravia 9 was due to better viewing angles (living room with seating from all angles), deeper blacks and better contrast, and faster response time (I watch a lot of sports). I chose the G4 over the S95D because of Dolby vision support, better brightness, and the 5 year warranty covering burn in.
you should have got the sony then for sports. oleds have good response times for games but arent too good for sports cause of abl and stuttering issues. sonys processing alone is a great reason to go with cause of sports
@@vcam-g9h I do understand this and even though the s95d has slightly better color gamut the B9 can display its color volume at a higher brightness for a more impactful picture. I know qdoled is the newer technology but it’s exciting watching lcd TVs with quantum dot layers trying to match oled.
@@EverydayElectronics23 how would you rate the A95L vs the G4 for sports? Sports is my biggest concern. The B9 is out for me for the same reason Dr No mentioned about viewing angles, deeper blacks, and better contrast, so I'm left with deciding between the A95L and G4(77")
Question: can you clarify if Sony Bravia 9 supports 120hz in Dolby? Also if it supports, are you locked in GAME mode? I have an a90J which in order to have 120hz it only supports in game mode (and no game mode)
@@Kaijaron Sad that we can't compare with the TCL flagship since the B9 is the miniled flagship for Sony. The real flagship is not for sale in the US. In China it is called the X11H.
@@rkeith7766 I know, I live in China :) But since the X11H is online for sale online and not in a store, I haven't seen how it performance vs the QM851G.
So are ADS Pro panels only available in 75" and larger? I know the Sony B9 85" is the only one to use it, while the HiSense uses it for its U8N 75". I wish manufacturers put more effort into 48" and 55" sets and we saw these newer generation panels used for these sizes. The B7 55" having such poor viewing angles is unacceptable. Sounds like I need to look at the A95L 55"
Sony does not use ads panels they’re all va panels. Ads panels have very poor uniformity. I sent back the u8n because of bad backlight bleed and clouding
Having rejected an LG C3 i do not want another Oled, the greyscale and banding was very bad then the panel failed after only 2 weeks. that only leaves the QM8 and Sony, but not the Bravia 9, the screen sizes are way too large for me. I am waiting for a review of the Bravia 7 which is more affordable and available in more sensible screen sizes. The 2024 QM8 is not been released in the UK yet, and after my bad experience with Hisense i will be avoiding anything from China, the customer service is dire.
@@MrUpscaleman Thanks for confiming that Sony's are good for lack of banding. I have gone back to my Pioneer Kuro plasma for now, it is far better than the LG was with no banding at all, newer is not allways better.
@@whitecrowuk575 Yes i have one TV left, a Pioneer Kuro plasma that is still way superior to the Led / Oled panels of today. At any resolution less than 4K these recent TV's are hopeless. Newer is not always better.
This is the first of your Videos I’ve seen and, what a great comparison. Thank you for the content . I’m subscribing, because I could already tell your videos are going to be that of a high caliber. I found the quality of your comparison incredibly valuable.
@@RISKYTAP I found Bravia 8 to be a bit dim so I don’t think A80j would be any better. Two different technologies but you may prefer Bravia 9 if there is a lot of light in your room. Bravia 9 still has a great contrast. With that said, in 65” you can find a bright OLED like G4 or S95D and S90d that will do a great job.
Love my bravia 9. But the thing I cant stand about any motion editting is the terrible DSE around images at times. I wouldnt even mind the soap opera effect if it didnt alter the image with DSE so badly. I upgraded from an 8 year old Samsung, and it hasn't improved much in 8 years.
I disagree when someone says that a particular TV is the "best" or the "king of TVs." There isn't a single best TV for everyone; it's all about your personal viewing environment and experience preferences. For example, when someone claims that the Sony Bravia 9 is the best TV of the year, that's based on their own experience. The Bravia 9 is a mini LED TV known for its high brightness, which is great for rooms with a lot of natural light. But if you're watching in a dark room, you don't need a high brightness TV. In such cases, a mini LED TV might not be the best choice. In a dark room, an OLED TV is often a better option. OLED TVs provide perfect black levels and infinite contrast, which makes the viewing experience much more immersive in low-light environments. The self-emissive pixels in OLEDs can turn off completely, resulting in true blacks and stunning picture quality that is unmatched in dark settings. So, when someone asks, "What is the best TV?" the answer really depends on your specific viewing conditions and preferences. There is no one-size-fits-all answer.
This doesnt even come close to OLED in any area other than brightness, which is not even needed. I will take contrast and 1500 nits over 3000 nits and shit contrast, washed out colors etc. Also, humans dont have green fingers @5:20
@@madpistol If you compare them side by side, the difference in contrast is so big, no amount of extra SDR brightness is going to make up for it. Unless you want your eyes soaring. In HDR, in over 95 percent of scenes, the brightness difference is minimal. B9 suffers additional problems as blooming, bad input lag for all gamers, it is more expensive, has bad grey uniformity, lower color gamut, and also has very, very bad viewing angles.
@@nikolajovanovic3647 well then it’s a good thing that I have an LG OLED to compare it against. Actually, I have three. The Bravia 9 beats the pants off all of them.
My 85" finally came in I went from the x90k. So I am very happy. I'm giving the 85 x90k to a family member and I have an 85" x91j which looks better then the x90k. X90k was trash, in my opinion.
If oled is sooooo great, ever heard of burn in? ABL? Image retention. Banding. Pink or green tints. Price. Small size. And no peace of mind when static bright lights are on a couple of hours a day, or even longer while gaming
I have but my 2017/18 LG that I have used for hundreds and upon hundreds hours of gaming , movies and regular tv usage. Haven’t even seen Image retention.. so no unless you has like zero brain and just let CNN run 24/7 this really shouldn’t be a worry. Considering my tv doesn’t even include most of the modern anti burn in features that was added the years after my tv. I wouldn’t worry now
I’ve had my LG CX 65” since 2020 and I game daily , watch movies, my kid plays on it as well. I do have Best Buy geek squad 5 year warranty so really wouldn’t care about issue as I would get a new one, but I’ve had 0 issues with burn in , TV has been 100% solid. I’m tempted to get a B9 or B8 or waiting for A95L to drop in price or stay with LG due to great experience and get a G4 in 77 or 83 if prices drop during Holidays
@@closg9309 I recently upgraded from a CX 55'' as well, 0 issues in 4 years+ with over 2000 hours gaming, there's a reason why people can transition to OLED from mini LED but almost no one goes back from OLED to mini LED
No burn in my E9 - 12k hours on vivid. Banding non issue B9 has much worse DSE btw. Price - G4 77 or s95d 40% cheaper than B9 in UK. B9 is brighter but not where it matters in small highlights in real scenes in dimmer. Also 2.6k nits in 10% and under is not that much brighter than 1500 nits, not night and day difference. You do lose 3D OLED effect which is quite a sacrifice as it prevalent in big portion of scenes. Where it would win is size. But 85” is not enough.
Whats your prediction for the Shootout this year? would you consider REMOVING the Matte Film on the S95D?! or have 2 S95D's. that would be a awesome video. if you would remove the Matte FIlm. ask The Display Guy, if you need help. he knows how to remove the Matte films
It's so difficult to understand people complaining about this so called 'soap opera' effect. To my eyes the smoother the better and I just don't see the issue. I always set my TV to full motion modes 🤷😅
One thing FOMO didn’t do when testing motion is setting G4 to cinematic mode where it adjusts automatically based on movement- best of both worlds- but of soap opera only when needed
PLEASE HELP! Bravia 9 85" or X90L 98".....This is really a tough one for me. The wow factor of the 98" will be amazing but it appears the Bravia 9 is the best TV ever produced.
Looking forward to it! I've heard that the uniformity on the bravia 9 65 is not good. Is this true? Also , if true,wouldn't that mean that the larger sizes will be worse?
LCDs can have DSE, Oleds can have banding.... it's always a bit of a gamble what you will get. Most people buy a panel and see no problems so they are quiet.
The Bravia 9 doesn’t have perfect OLED blacks. What it does is bring out the definition within the blacks. It doesn’t crush out the blacks like an OLED does. Brightness with purpose. My 75 inch Bravia 9 is simply incredible. I had the LG G4 on order and canceled it. Saved me money and it has been more than worth it.
I promise this is the last time I spam this comment haha... Next livestream where you have the TVs all up, can we see the QM851 compared with the HX3110 with the following changes? Black Level at 48 and/or Gamma at 2.3. Like I posted in the live chat, I think that gets you closer to reference with a bit less clouding/blooming based on some feedback AVS users have posted and my own experience with previous QM850 firmware.
Side by sides mean absolutely nothing - especially the subjective and quite frankly wild way that FOMO chooses to illustrate differences in products. Take them all with a large pinch of salt as so many variables come in to play.
👍 Whokeys 30% off Code: SF20 for Windows10($16)biitt.ly/Fh4WJ
Windows11($20)biitt.ly/wvPFz
Windows10 Home ($14)biitt.ly/Tm4ad
Office2019 ($45)biitt.ly/NO6cw
Office2021 ($76)biitt.ly/nG2sb
Visit whokeys.com
This is a shady sponsorship my friend:
With the exception of Product Key Cards (PKC’s) distributed with COA’s, Microsoft does not distribute products keys as standalone products.
- If you see a listing on an auction site, online classified ad, or other online page advertising product keys for sale, it’s a good indication that the keys are likely stolen or counterfeit.
- If you were to purchase and use a stolen or counterfeit product key to activate Windows installed on your PC, the key may not work for activation, may already be in use on another PC, or it might be blocked from use later by Microsoft when the key is reported stolen.
There's no perfect TV but I think it's fair to say Bravia 9 is truly remarkable progress for MiniLED. Sony sprinkled magic dust on the backlight masterdrive (increase in zones and 22 bit precision) and it is just wonderful!
All this to do a 50% brighter picture over OLED. And still small highlights unfortunately dimmer. 🤷♂️ much easier with self emissive pixels. Can’t believe they don’t offer 97”. They offer poor x90L but not their flagship.
Sony rests on their laurels as a company but when they decide to innovate they definitely come out swinging, I don't think anyone expected a TV that looks almost as good as a $30k mastering monitor and trades blows with OLED in dark room performance.
@@Mike-jm5wt they can do indeed but I’m afraid they will lose the game. TCL is smashing in mini led space and with bigger better models available will definitely overtake that space. Whereas Samsung and LG already get close in processing to Sony, close enough that usually big price disparity doesn’t justify the difference. There will be only die hard Sony fans. I can see Sony selling its business down the line.
@@whitecrowuk575 sony will sell TVs even if profit isn't good, think of how valuable it is to have that Sony logo in front of people day in and day out. Also if the Chinese brands get too good watch governments suddenly label them as CCP spyware like they did to Huawei
The Bravia 9 is literally going to shock the world. It's going to win the King of TV's shootout this year (beating out both OLED and QD-OLED TVs) and that's going to make people heads explode all over the world! Yeah, I just saw it for the first time today and it's THAT good. You won't even believe it when you see it.
Best less than 17 minute video of all time! Your discussion covers the most important attributes of these very nice premium TVs. Thank you for being the great partner you are, and for your support to the video industry.
Hi Robert!, I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved to another State (I left it in my parent’s house). Do you think the 85” Hisense U8N or the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 will be somehow in the same level as the Sony Z9D or should I just save up and wait to get the 85” Bravia 9 or the 85” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and some shows, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month in my living room. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙏🏽
I asked fomo I similar question a while back . Ashamed to admit I ignored his advice and bought a sony xr85x95j. Mainly use tv for football and movies, had to return tv ( dse & vignette) got 77inch lg c1 and never looked back.
Even on this video you can see grey area on pan video ( Lucy army of d) the panel lottery is so much harder with large led tvs , and that's exactly what fomo originally told me.
@@iansteventon4221 oh wow! Thanks for the info!
I’m a LG CX owner and have been looking at the S90D as a replacement, I went to Best Buy to look at OLEDs, walked over to Sony to check out the A80L & A95L, and was blown away by the Bravia 9 that was next to the Sony OLEDs. I never thought I’d leave OLED. If you haven’t seen it in person, please do. It’s REALLY good. Now I’m researching Bravia 9.
To everyone that thinks LCD can’t be as good as OLED, listen to this guy. The B9 is amazing. I’m glad more people are starting to realize it.
My grandmother just picked up the G4, she’s loving it
Try g4, that thing is awesome on multiple levels.
Also watching tv is always better in slight dark environment just as in the theatres.
Did you look at the Lg G4 ? That tv looked incredible when I went this week. I don’t know if the Bravia 9 was on display. I’ll be going back to compare the two.
That sounded like my experience. I was looking at a 8k and the best buy worker was real with me and told me I didn't need it. Showed me the bravia 9 and I was blown away. Did some lricing and found it at sony with my military discount and got the 85 inch for $4700
I just received my new Bravia 9 yesterday and absolutely love it ❤I’m a SONY man and always get the new model. I haven’t messed with the settings yet but thank you for the recommendations. Love ur videos 😊
Do you have the A95L if you are a Sony man! How does the B9 compare?
@@gosman949 hah. same question! again! :)
Im curious how it compares to the Z9K in luminance and brightness, which is still a carry over this year.
@@AnythingGoesJoJoBravia 9 has better local dimming with close to 0 blooming. The Z9K does have significant blooming
Have been a longtime fan of Sony myself, having had 3 landmark Sony TVs between 1989 & the Sony OLED we still have now, including a 35" Sony 198 lb. tabletop CRT MONSTER that the TV review magazines, in late 1997 & early 1998, were calling the best TV for squeezing the most picture quality out of the then NEW video format: DVD.
I'm excited. My 85 inch B9 arrives next Monday. Your review will help me set it up.
Enjoy! Can you tell me how the uniformity is? DSE main culprit
I have it already, it's great except be prepared for blooming. There absolutely is blooming and it's worse than the TV I just replaced, my 2018 Samsung Q8FN with only 40 dimming zones. Samsung at the time was prioritizing blooming control over everything so highlights were not spectacular however there was absolutely no blooming on this q8fn. Black level is insanely good and I prefer this kind of an algorithm. The Bravia 9 prioritizes blindingly bright highlights over blooming control and it really shows, I see quite a bit of blooming which is disappointing. That said it's not terrible.
@@armylrs2391 ty for the information. Why not go lg g4?
@@TonyDAngelo-ot7ny I've owned WOLED - an A80K and C3 and I did not like either of them. I do not like how WOLED uses a white subpixel. I find it gives the image an inescapable blue push along with diluted looking color production. They also have terrible brightness stability. I like HDR and QLED provides a much more impressive HDR experience. I considered buying a Samsung QD-OLED, but they also have bad brightness stability and no OLED has impressive peak brightness despite the deceptive marketing in that regard.
Every mini led TV will have blooming.
Bravia 9 is crazy expensive in the UK., the 65 inches not available, while the 75 inches is considerably more expensive than in the US. As a result it is going to be out of reach for me and the majority of video enthusiasts. Sony’s marketing policy is alienating its own potential customers, congratulations Sony!
no 65 in Australia either.
Mate the uk fn sucks ! Everything is priced ridiculous! Does my heed in seeing the prices in usa .
The 85 inch B9 is only 500 quid more than the 75 inch.
@@Buzza235 wait for a sale next year mate. I paid £3300 for my 77inch c1 , put it up for sale at £1250 - these bigger tvs are hard to shift both private and in store here in uk .
@@Buzza235 I've just settled and bought the 85X95K.
The tv is pretty good and I don't need to worry about abl ( or to a lesser extent burn in)
Excellent choice of TVs for this comparison/evaluation! Look forward to watching!
Bravia 9 seems really nice!
I seriously considering coming back to LCD from oled TV in the future!
Hurts my feelings a bit to know that the Bravia 9 costs 1000 USD less in the States compared to where I live, but after this video I am convinced that it will be worth every single dime.
I just pulled the plug on the 75 inch one.
I don't think I have seen this much hype for a Sony TV ever.
same i got the exact same size coming tomorrow and im excited
Coming from a 2017 Samsung 60" LCD, I only stream, sports and Blu-ray, NO GAMING and In the tropics with five 5' windows in living room. I also don't watch TV in the dark - minimum is with ambient light. My room size is 13' x 13 - no off angle issues expected. I will be buying the 85'' Sony Bravia 9. This choice is based on the wisdom I got from you, and Brian - consider ones "Use Case". Thanks a million FOMO. Big up yaself sametime!!
Bravia 9 looks awesome, I think that's my next TV. Thanks for the review, FOMO.
Not sure how you could leave out off-angle viewing from the list of compromises.
A calibrated 85" Z9K Owner from V.E. One thing that really sticks out to me is the cost ... the 85" B nearly half the cost of the Z9K. What size TV's were used in your review? Gotta say the old standby continues to hold true and that is what is the light environment where the TV is depends on what TV tech to go with. Both techs improve year by year that in real life viewing it comes down to one's personal preference. Those torture test comparisons are coming to the point of splitting hairs. Great Review. T.Y. 👍😊
Im really curious how the Z9K compares to the Bravia 9...Bravia 9 hits 2500 nits? But the Z9K already benn hitting close to 4000 nits
Sony Bravia 9 &8 I bought both of them from value electronics. Thank you Robert for your advice. It worked out very well for me. Please buy from value electronics.
Thank you! We enjoyed working with you too!
We have a friendly discussion with every customer to learn about their use-case and environment so we can make the best TV recommendation(s) that best match their application.
@valueelectronics9390 do you know how long the Bravia 9 is on sale for?
@@CaBdosdos Looks like Sony has permanently lowered the prices on all screen sizes of the BRAVIA 9 QD MiniLED TV, 85" 4,799, 75" $3,499, 65" 2,999. with free Nationwide delivery, and we have promotions on all of Sony's perfectly matched audio and headphone products with very nice bundle discounts.
Great video, all information in a compact 15 minutes video. Thanks! I went with the S95D, replacing my old KS9590 LED. Love it! Never had such a clean panel before -with zero banding!
what about that matt screen?
@@gosman949 I like the matte coating! It looks kinda classy and it’s easy on the eyes to watch things during daylight.
Considered the g4?
Honestly, if you're rich, the Bravia 9 is the best of both worlds. It has everything i like about LCD with the strenghs of a OLED. AND its a Sony TV, so it also has the best color accuracy and processing on the market. Truly outstanding.
Yeah, but it's missing OLEDs main strengths. Edge to edge brightness, dark color performance, pixel refresh time to name a few. Things it seems LCD will never overcome at this point.
Bravia 9 looks great. Im happy with my Sony A95K for now and I’ll look into Bravia 9 sometime in the future.
Hell yeah, bring it on.
Still waiting for my 75" BRAVIA 9😭
I have the 75 inch Bravia 9. you will absolutely love it. My only regret is that I didn’t get the 85 inch.
I have the 75" Bravia 9 and I absolutely love it! Best TV I've ever owned, and funny enough not the most expensive. I love it so much more than any OLED I've ever had, including the A95L!
@@vacguy77 what the? Really. Better than the A95L? How is the sound on the Bravia9 compared to the A95L?
@@gosman949 wanna know the same thing as you... is the sound on bravia9 really better then on the A95L?
@@vacguy77 how would you compare the bravia 9 with the A95L? in what ways is the bravia 9 superior to the A95L in your opinion?
I'm still a touch skeptical, but I have to say I was impressed by the colors of the Bravia 9. It was clearly better in that youtube TV tennis match.
In terms of colours, Sony's TV's usually knocks it out of the park. I bought a ZF9 master series TV back in 2019 and now I can only buy Sony TV's because no other TV is capable of matching the colours of a Sony TV (and they look the most true to life to me). I'm not a Sony fanboy, I don't even have a PS5. I had their first wireless earbuds with noise cancelling, but did not opt to get a new Sony one because they tend to have battery issues (I don't know what it is with Sony and trash batteries. All of their earbuds have battery durability issues and their wireless controllers also all have battery durability issues).
It was in vivid. Hence the colors were being pushed hard. But wasn’t shown TCL, which would match it or surpass it (it is brighter).
Read up on quantum dots but the short version is they convert led light into pure white which then gets filtered by the lcd layer to create all the colors, but because the white is so pure the resulting colors are far more vibrant compared to non QD light sources.
@@whitecrowuk575no TCL advocate has ever answered my question on longevity. I buy a TV to last 10 years, will a tcl be as good in 8 to 10 years of heavy usage? My Sony have always lasted 10 years at still a quality colour and picture.
I am guessing that you never clocked that FOMO had the Sony in vivid mode to try and make it appear more pimped out than it actually is?
FOMO - you should be way better than this. We don't want clickbait - give us accurate reviews sir, you can't claim anything is better whilst completely pimping out both the product and your camera settings.
If you are going to make wild claims - give us the data that backs it all up.
I'm impressed with the B9 when you increased your camera exposure on that star scene. It has near OLED black detail. IRL the lifted black on the QM8 wouldn't be that noticeable though.
If you at showroom compare Sony OLED vs miniLED model. OLED black much on background
I like the brava 9 I’m saving for the 85 inch
I'd take infinite contrast over brightness any day of the week. These OLEDs came a long way. G4 with MLA is extremely bright TV. Still the Bravia 9 is very impressive for a mini led technology
Very impressed, short and to the point, thanks FOMO. 1 question, why are we not seeing comparisons to the qn95d?
Last year, the 85-inch and 75-inch versions of the X95L model had different display panels, with the 85-inch version having a better panel. Therefore, if you bought the 65-inch or 75-inch X95L, you got a lower-quality panel compared to the 85-inch. How are things this year with the Bravia 9 (XR90)? Does the display quality vary depending on the display size? Are there any differences in sound or other features based on the display size?
I've seen the 85" X95L next to the Bravia 9 and i think the X95L looks better. B9 is too bright
@@matttafakt
If it’s too bright you should buy an OLED😂
B9 is now down by 1000 for a few hours in Australia, I just caught the flash sale of 10% discount and made the order of 85“
I was so sure I was going to get the Bravia 8 this year... but after seeing the Bravia 9 next to the Bravia 8 and A95L at Best Buy, I'm not so sure anymore, lol. I'm about 60:40 in favor of the Bravia 9 now🤣
I bought Bravia 8 and returned it. Great colour but was a bit dim to my liking. Great TV, but not for me. Look into G4 and Bravia 9.
@partizanbgd0113 Interesting. I bought the A80L last year and loved it so bought the Bravia 8 for a different room recently and love it as well. Definitely plenty bright enough for me. I saw all these tvs in Best Buy and some in Costco (where I bought both of mine), and I can say there is no way I would ever go back to LCD after having OLED now.
I got my B9 few weeks ago, but there is brighten spot on the screen that is about 8" wide shape like a jelly bean located on the center left side of the screen. Contacted Sony and for three days worth of correspondent they determine it is "working within specs". I can't stand it, cause I can see it in dark scenes. So I am returning it back to Sony (bought directly). I have the LG G4 on order now.
Does it almost look like a backlight issue? I know the wide viewing filter Sony uses causes that rainbow effect and on a black screen it looks like backlight bleed. It’s driving me crazy and I’m thinking of just buying a 77 inch g3 for 1200$ less
LG G4 with QD-oled panel is my dream TV. Love that LG G4 motion.
The A95L is available and is a better TV if you really want oled.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 still overpriced and last year's processor.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 Sounds good, do you have a link to the 83" version?
@@alsayedfakhri4597No 83 for me sadly on the a95l
That tv already exists its called the Sony A95L
Only thing putting me off the sony is the grey shadowing on the edges of the screen with army of the dead and lucy. Other 2 tvs are clean , the lcd tv seems to have a grey patch when camera pans ? Why ?
LG G4's price is dropping dramatically, it's already lower than Bravia 9, sony need to reconsider the price, LCD higher than OLED is not right! If Sony can not drop the price lower than OLED, I will consider LG G4. In terms of price, it's now actually G4 challenges Bravia 9.
Not in canada lol
Not in my country either. B9 cheaper than G4.
Is down by $1300 in Australia for a 65 inch
In uk both 77” Samsung and LG 40% cheaper than 85” b9
@@whitecrowuk575 40% wow that awesome. I got 65 inch G4 $4294 with 4yrs extra warranty..... usually $5700ish
The 85inch B9 is my King of HDR TVs this year. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Yhea!
you know hdr is crap right?!
@@grandmasteryoda9893 BOT?
@@ramonzaions7522 not at all. Just know what i takk about. Hdr mode on tv is ugly and useless 99% of the time
@@grandmasteryoda9893 If you have a bad hdr tv yes. But HDR is better than SDR any day of the week
It’s impressive I’ll say if I’m ever in a situation where the living room has a ton of light coming in in the tv. It’s nice knowing there are oled alternatives ready.
Where is the A95L vs B9, my point is Sony is trying to maximize profits by pushing reviewers to push B9, A95L still the best TV
Not for me it wasn't. I returned my A95L after 4 days. It may be the brightest OLED, but nowhere near bright enough for me. The Bravia 9 blows the A95L out of the water as far as I'm concerned!
News flash, not everyone is an OLED fanboy
@Mike-jm5wt It's weird how OLED fans/fanboys are literally everywhere trying to defend OLED. I have a QD-OLED and I'm officially over OLED. This shit is not bright enough and ABL is a no go.
@@DV-ou1yu I think it's because most of them are video gamers and those are some of the most toxic people on the internet whereas LED owners are usually not gamers but rather movie lovers and regular human beings with children and wives and windows in their homes
@Mike-jm5wt Yea, that's a pretty bad take lol I'm a gamer and I do not like OLED like I thought I would, but then again I have a life too and don't have any interest defending a product lol.
I think the best way to put it is they are tech snobs who hate light for some reason or are losers wbo waste time trying to tell you why their preference is king
I find in sport my B9 is way better in motion compared to my G4 unless you use Motion PRO or Motion Interpretation but you loose a lot of brightness then on both TV's
Bravia is brighter and I find it better in all inputs compared and watching of all content , if G4 was Brightner and had better Motion without sacrificing brightness then it would win 🏆
I would never go back to LCD no matter how good the backlight is... The brightness is not everything. Nothing can beat the OLED until theres a better pixel level LED tech...imo
Bedroom TV not living room forever me
Sony reference monitor HX3110 is a 30K LCD monitor. So LCD as reference, not OLED.
Sapienti sat. And why did you turn off the reference monitor in the viewing angle test at 11:30?
I would like to see how the HX3110 performs in that regard.
For me, all things considered, the Bravia 9 is a clear winner. Beautiful picture without burn in anxiety. OLED black levels are not worthy getting a burn in and, if you think hard enough, movie theatres equipped with the most advanced projectors also lag behind the OLEDs in black levels and no one is complaining about that.
75” Bravia 9 will be my basement tv! :)
Basement TV, might wanna OLED instead
@@natemekis3959 Was thinking that but the B9 gets to 95% of OLED blacks but gives you brightness and dynamic range impact that OLEDS just can’t match.
I’m thinking the Bravia9 is gonna blind you in the basement and you won’t even be able to appreciate the highlights but let the community know how it worked out
@@natemekis3959 You make a very good point. You really think a lot of the brightness would be wasted in a basement setting? Wouldn’t it still however have more hdr impact than an OLED? Or, are you saying since it would be in a basement setting without having to worry about sunlight that OLED would be plenty bright?
I’d probably be blown away by the 77” Bravia 8. I don’t wanna spend $5K for the A95L. What would you get for a basement? I do love Sonys processing.
Thanks for asking. I certainly don’t want to tell you what to do or be a know-it-all, but I watch a LG B7 at night/pitch dark besides the tv of course. I keep the brightness down. That infinite contrast will be what gives the image a 3D “wet” pop. Nothing beats oled it the dark. Bright living room Bravia9 all day. If you love Sony processing which I hear it great, A80L 77 or 83. Bravia8 is not a big enough leap for the money. But if you got the cash LG G4 sounds like it has great improved processing and the brightness if you want that hdr pop. I’m waiting til G4 or S90D come into my money range. Cheers.
whats with the wonkey audio
1/3 the price,
YES, i am willing to compromise.
TCL it is.
Some people go out and eat a piece of chicken leg while other people have lobster, buy what you can afford that is the way.
TCL is a Gamechanger so is the Bravia 9
It’s brighter with slightly worse processing. 30% more over B9 for 98”, in few months it’ll be on par with Sony.
@@michael-4k4000 not at all. the briva 9 have more blooming and cost. not good
I have a 77” LG M3 being delivered to my house tomorrow. I initially had purchased the Bravia 9 75” I’m second guessing my decision. Coming from a very old Panasonic Viera plasma which still has phenomenal blacks in dark movie scenes, I gravitated to the M3.
Great video. What about Sony A95l?
Fomo - S90D 77 or Bravia 9 75 for the living room? Medium lighting.
B9
Why compare to lesser brands? Makes sense to compare to a95l
"Lesser brands"😂 Stop smoking 🚬 bad stuff.
@@ADISTOD3MUS the moment he realizes the G4 wins TV of the year at the shootout he realizes the Sony dominance is over.
@TheAntifluencer that comment didn't age well. G4 lost to the A95L.
You didn’t understand the comment
Local Best Buy here in Canada offered me a G4 and B9 65” for the same price. For someone who’s watching mostly Netflix Prime and basketball, very occasional gaming, not sure which one to get. Love the crispness of OLED, but also appreciate more shadow detail of mini led. To all you enthusiasts, which panel would you choose?
Thank you FOMO! I would love to see a Bravia 9 and Samsung 900D comparison!
Started my journey on the S90D, skipped it to get the S95D because I have a very bright condo, 9 foot ceilings, mostly windows that are floor to ceiling and south west facing. The blinds that came installed in the main living space still let some light through. I didn’t like tizen and the S95D had artifacting/SOE no matter the setting for myself. A loved the finish on the screen however the diffused light could become another issue in itself. After years of hearing about LGs on UA-cam I thought the C line up was the next option, but again skipped those and went to the LG G4. Felt the colours were more accurate for what I like, yes not as saturated as the Samsung but the image just seemed way more clear, I actually don’t mind LGs OS and its motion handling is awesome. The anti reflection coating isn’t perfect as now I have glare but it absorbs most of the light and reflections. As I’m replacing a Sony X900E, I still wanted to try a Sony. The A95L pricing for a two year old tv is a hard sell in addition to its other drawbacks if you game and it’s not quite as bright as the LG too and looking at images and tests the anti reflection wasn’t as strong. So then I landed on the Bravia 9 as, like the G4 it seems like it’s the best all around option. Overall I loved the tv, from the remote, cable management, OS, SOUND, SDR was definitely brighter etc. however…. it has the WORST anti reflection of the TVs I tested. It’s so bad, it was barely better than the X900E I’m replacing. It didn’t get bright enough during the day, even in vivid mode. Directly beside the LG, the LG was way more visible and in most cases brighter in real scenes. The Bravia 9 in test settings with the white boxes will scorch your retinas… but what good is this brightness if it doesn’t translate to real use and the reflections being absolutely horrible. Sometimes I need to use vivid on the LG as well to make it more visible on the super bright days, and it was way more realistic colour wise versus the Sony (very blue).
I really really wanted to love the Sony as the technology interests me and I felt safer with mini led long term. However I decided to keep the G4. I think the G4 is hands down the best all around tv in the market today.
While I am quite happy to see manufacturers improving their LCD and OLED TVs year over year, I think we have long arrived at the point, where the quality of the content is holding things back for more than the quality of the Display. Pretty much the same thing as what we can see in terms of Audio. We have all these nice standards and formats, HDR, 4K60 or 4K120 with high clarity, brightness, contrast and everything, but frequently get HDR capped at less than 500nits or even SDR in an HDR container. Hollywood clings to 24p, thus destroying most of the advantages of 4K or even 1080p as soon as movement is involved or adds artificial "digital grain" etc.
On the audio side, we are seeing Atmos mixes without actual object based audio, just static 7.1.2 or at most 7.1.4 and very little Surround Sound, let alone Heigt effects. In terms of Music, we get all kinds of high-resolution containers with the audio often having the potential of exceeding what humans can hear by several orders of magnitude but the actual recording being dynamically compressed, badly recorded, mushy and not even using the available bandwidth of something like a good old Audio CD.
So yes, modern TVs, AVRs and Speakers are great, but the Content industry is way behind most of the time. Sorry for ranting...🧘♀️
I’ve been saying this for years. Buying $5,000 tvs is stupid when the content itself will almost never justify that. There’s a reason almost all modern tvs look great when you watch Demo footage and footage from HDR Demo channels on UA-cam. Then you watch Netflix and other content a d it never matches that. Then you have a lot of directors you think the world looks dark and drab and no tv is going to make that content look better. Look at how Some scenes in Game of Thrones are shot, where it’s so dark you can’t see anything. A $5,000 fake “4,000 Nit” tv isn’t going to do much better than a $800 1,000 Nit TV.
I watch in a dark, light controlled room, but my budget just isn't there yet for a 77" OLED. Was really planning for an upgrade for my 65X950G in 2024 but may have to wait a year. I don't want to have to settle for blooming.
Get the samsung x90d is the best qd oled value for money the s95d is a bit bright but the rest is similar.
What about DSE on the Sony? That's why I got a QD-Oled, perfect uniformity!
wat it DSE and DTM ?
@@heikoklose84 DSE = dirty screen effect, the clouding and blotchiness that plagues LCD TVs. I assume DTM = dynamic tone mapping. DTM Off - TV uses a static table to map the input brightness of a picture to the real output brightness it is capable of rather than the static meta data provided by the content. Static meta data mostly tells the screen the minimal and maximal peak brightness of the whole movie / TV show episode.
DTM On - The TV tries to guess what output brightness would look the best on a per scene level based on both the input brightness, the static meta data as well as by analyzing the scene.
@@boomerscs9193 Thank your!
was für ein Oled haben Sie sich geholt?@@boomerscs9193
Im really curious to see how the Bravia 9 compares to the Z9K, the Z series has been known to hit 4000 nits without clipping.
I agree that would be cool to see how the Bravia 9 can match up with Z9K in terms of raw luminance output
👍TV Deals: Bravia 9 bit.ly/3Vlptpv Sony Quad bit.ly/3XhON2f say Fomo sent you!
Sony A95L deals bit.ly/3sSpw1u
Sony A80L deals bit.ly/3yYDAt8
LG G4 deals bit.ly/3PqX1QD
Hi FOMO, please doing battle QN900D vs Bravia 9
Sony A95L is still the best tv out there. In my opinion.
Hi Fomo!: I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved out of my parent’s house to another state. Are the 85” Hisense U8N and the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 good options? or should I save up and wait to get the 77” Sony A95L, the 85” Bravia 9 or the 83” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I don’t game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for replying!
@@lpromer4796 I would say to save up and get the Sony A95L. If you can. It’s a very expensive tv.
@@WildWildDev G4 dethroned it sry, it brings out even more 3D depth, gets brighter and punchier and it has even better clarity. However yes A95L is far superior over the Bravia 9
I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved out of my parent’s house to another state. Are the 85” Hisense U8N and the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 good options? or should I save up and wait to get the 77” Sony A95L, the 85” Bravia 9 or the 83” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I don’t game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for replying!
حتما حتما bravia9 خریداری کنید
I'm confused. What did FOMO like the best?
What does it matter, the aim of the video is not for you to be a follower and buy what someone like but to look at the strength and weakness of each tech and decide whatrs best for you.
@@vcam-g9h do you know as much as your doctor for whatever specialist you go to? No, I don't think so. FOMO breathes this stuff everyday. He has the experience and the eyes. Yes, we do want his opinion.
He purposely didn’t say. The G4 is the tv of the year barely just making it over the A95L. Those are the facts.
@@Wileytiger-el6pu says who?
@@Wileytiger-el6pu The G4 cannot be superior to the A95L because of its inferior white light tech to make things bright which will dilute the color as the tv gets brighter. The A95L QD oled uses OD color which remains bright at high brightness levels.
We have a 7+ old Sony that has been trouble free and extremely reliable. Definitely would look at Sony for any replacement with newer technology.
Well, the Bravia 9 to me looks like the best TV on the market for video viewing.... mainly because the colours just seem to be the most accurate for most part. It's basically closest to the reference monitor in like 95% of the cases.
I did read about some 'bad' things related to gaming. But that was mainly from 1 source and just a few guys. Supposedly the response time is like 17-18 ms even in gaming mode when playing at 60 fps... which is only slightly better than my 2018 Z9F and far worse than some of Sony's own TV's from recent years. Well, it isn't a dealbreaker since I don't play competitively anyhow, but it is something to keep in mind at least (ideally it's something they can improve with a software update perhaps if the issue is caused by lack of software optimisation for gaming).
@JLT3ch I meant input lag. But it is a bit on the high side for a modern TV (still good though I guess).
Thanks for the review, but what I really want to know is an 85" BRAVIA 9 worth c. £2K/$2.5K more that the already excellent 85" BRAVIA X95L -- comparison please...
X95L is awesome. Nobody will compare theses two because they look the same. Personally, i think the B9 is too bright
Not from I have seen I seen the bravia 9 in person several times in person , the contrast is no were near oled and off viewing angles weren't great , I will take contrast over brighnesss every time and and oled is better by far when comes to gaming . Waiting on the Panasonic MLA Z95A .
You haven’t see it. Run HDR with it and you’ll see it bury Oled
If you don't care about HDR, go for OLED.
@boterhammetpindakaashagelslag Your right I don't
Why do people lie in comments? You have not seen it several times in person. Most stores don't have them set up yet. You are full of it.
I'm trying to order the PANASONIC Z95A in Australia Still got a few places to call with the yes or no answer
Excellent stuff, it would be nice if you could compare the power consumption at sdr (same brightness ) (what people watch 90% of the time) of these tv. It would be a great reference for people who live in places with very high power prices.
Power usage is FAR lower on LCD TVs with Mini-LED back-lights than with similar size OLEDs! For example, about any model 65" LCD TV with Mini-LED back-lighting sold today, uses UNDER half the power at the same brightness level that any 65" OLED uses. OLEDs have NEVER been efficient in utilizing electrical power to produce a given level of brightness. A 2019 model Sony 77" A9G OLED we use in our basement theater room, has a maximum power use rating that's OVER 2 TIMES the maximum rated power usage of the 2014 Sharp 80" LCD TV (without Mini-LEDs) that I gave to a friend in Sept 2022, as we replaced the Sharp with Samsung's 85" QN90B LCD with Mini-LED back-lights.
@@mrb0775 wow, I knew oleds were inefficient, but I thought it would not be that different to LEDs due to transmission losses through LCD screen. I always wanted to upgrade to qdoled, but now I am thinking otherwise.
OLED trying to be brighter mini led trying to have perfect black😂
How does the bravia 9 compare to a QN95D ?
Holy mess, the Bravia 9 won. Happy Day!!!
Hey, FOMO!
Since the largest set our mantle area can support is 55", would you suggest going with the A95L over the Bravia 7?
Side-lit living room, too.
A95L smashes the b7. You're comparing the top of the line QD OLED to a mid-range LED TV
Close too oled and no burn in yeah bravia 9.
same for me, wanted to go for the G4 in 83" and now tend to the Bravia 9 in 85" which is almost 1.000,- € less than thee G4 here in Germany. And we have a very bright living room
I know it's a difficult thing to measure and comment on but one of the most important things for me is the quality control of the tv. How bad is the dse at 85 inch? For us folks in other countries who don't have access to Robert to do quality control we have to play the panel lottery and I just had a terrible experience getting a 85 inch screen replaced due to extreme dse, I hope to never have to deal with that again.
I mean I kno the oled is the best but the mini led’s is damn close and is brighter and has deep blacks and there’s no worries about burn in I’d rather have a tv that’s bright that I can adjust then a dark tv that can’t get bright enough 🤷🏽♂️
I think the darkness was exaggerated.
@@cherylbrantley4736 the qd oled is beast and so is the a95l
I live in the UK and apparently the Bravia 9 officially released to stores today, but no retailer appears to be interested in getting a display model, like what the hell?
Best of both worlds. Sony miniLED
My thoughts as well
A95L Best oled tv in the world
BRAVIA 9 Best LED tv in the world
Doesn't the Sony have audio that plays through the screen and not or the back, so if you wall mount it you don't have to switch to a sound bar like you would with others [ lg, samsung, panasonic, hisense, tcl ]?
These are the 3 TVs I was between for a new living room tv. I ultimately chose the LG G4 (ordered two nights ago). The reason I chose the G4 over the Bravia 9 was due to better viewing angles (living room with seating from all angles), deeper blacks and better contrast, and faster response time (I watch a lot of sports). I chose the G4 over the S95D because of Dolby vision support, better brightness, and the 5 year warranty covering burn in.
you should have got the sony then for sports. oleds have good response times for games but arent too good for sports cause of abl and stuttering issues. sonys processing alone is a great reason to go with cause of sports
Better brightness on white light but the S95D has brighter colors becuase its a more advance panel I dont think you understand this.
@@vcam-g9h I do understand this and even though the s95d has slightly better color gamut the B9 can display its color volume at a higher brightness for a more impactful picture. I know qdoled is the newer technology but it’s exciting watching lcd TVs with quantum dot layers trying to match oled.
@@EverydayElectronics23 how would you rate the A95L vs the G4 for sports? Sports is my biggest concern. The B9 is out for me for the same reason Dr No mentioned about viewing angles, deeper blacks, and better contrast, so I'm left with deciding between the A95L and G4(77")
@@bcorr42 I would go with a95L all day
Question: can you clarify if Sony Bravia 9 supports 120hz in Dolby? Also if it supports, are you locked in GAME mode? I have an a90J which in order to have 120hz it only supports in game mode (and no game mode)
Will the 2024 qm8 be in the comparison?
Yea i believe so and i can't wait like to see which is better bravia 9 or 2024 qm8
@@Kaijaron Sad that we can't compare with the TCL flagship since the B9 is the miniled flagship for Sony.
The real flagship is not for sale in the US. In China it is called the X11H.
It did make an appearance.
@@spyofborg TCL TV's in China are 1 year ahead of the rest of the world so you will get the X11H in the US next year under a different name.
@@rkeith7766 I know, I live in China :) But since the X11H is online for sale online and not in a store, I haven't seen how it performance vs the QM851G.
Nice video but I honestly wish you tested upscaling too.
So are ADS Pro panels only available in 75" and larger?
I know the Sony B9 85" is the only one to use it, while the HiSense uses it for its U8N 75".
I wish manufacturers put more effort into 48" and 55" sets and we saw these newer generation panels used for these sizes.
The B7 55" having such poor viewing angles is unacceptable. Sounds like I need to look at the A95L 55"
Sony does not use ads panels they’re all va panels. Ads panels have very poor uniformity. I sent back the u8n because of bad backlight bleed and clouding
@@EverydayElectronics23 The 85" Bravia 9 DOES use an ADS Pro panel.
Having rejected an LG C3 i do not want another Oled, the greyscale and banding was very bad
then the panel failed after only 2 weeks.
that only leaves the QM8 and Sony, but not the Bravia 9, the screen sizes are way too large for me.
I am waiting for a review of the Bravia 7 which is more affordable and available in more sensible
screen sizes.
The 2024 QM8 is not been released in the UK yet, and after my bad experience with Hisense i will
be avoiding anything from China, the customer service is dire.
My A95k and my A95L are the absolute cleanest panels I have ever seen in my life, and I'm SUPER sensitive to vertical banding.
@@MrUpscaleman Thanks for confiming that Sony's are good for lack of banding.
I have gone back to my Pioneer Kuro plasma for now, it is far better than the LG was
with no banding at all, newer is not allways better.
@Barbarapape call Robert at Value Electronics and pay for the QC, break in and calibration service. Worth every penny. You will get a top notch set.
Bad experience with oled and bad experience with led so you have no TVs left
@@whitecrowuk575 Yes i have one TV left, a Pioneer Kuro plasma that is still way
superior to the Led / Oled panels of today.
At any resolution less than 4K these recent TV's are hopeless.
Newer is not always better.
This is the first of your Videos I’ve seen and, what a great comparison. Thank you for the content . I’m subscribing, because I could already tell your videos are going to be that of a high caliber. I found the quality of your comparison incredibly valuable.
Thanks FOMO.
Should i buy 2024 Bravia 9
Or 2021 Oled A80j? Please tell
Bravia 9
@partizanbgd0113 it's not OLEd? Will i see white background in Black Or dark scenes like in my current 1080p Monitor?
@@RISKYTAP I found Bravia 8 to be a bit dim so I don’t think A80j would be any better. Two different technologies but you may prefer Bravia 9 if there is a lot of light in your room. Bravia 9 still has a great contrast. With that said, in 65” you can find a bright OLED like G4 or S95D and S90d that will do a great job.
The LG just looks so good.
I ordered the g4, just hope I don’t miss the color.
Love my bravia 9. But the thing I cant stand about any motion editting is the terrible DSE around images at times. I wouldnt even mind the soap opera effect if it didnt alter the image with DSE so badly. I upgraded from an 8 year old Samsung, and it hasn't improved much in 8 years.
So you’re saying Bravia 9 still has DSE?
Sony B9
Sony Bravia 9 - 75 vs LG Oled C4 - 77 . What is better to buy?
I disagree when someone says that a particular TV is the "best" or the "king of TVs." There isn't a single best TV for everyone; it's all about your personal viewing environment and experience preferences. For example, when someone claims that the Sony Bravia 9 is the best TV of the year, that's based on their own experience. The Bravia 9 is a mini LED TV known for its high brightness, which is great for rooms with a lot of natural light. But if you're watching in a dark room, you don't need a high brightness TV. In such cases, a mini LED TV might not be the best choice.
In a dark room, an OLED TV is often a better option. OLED TVs provide perfect black levels and infinite contrast, which makes the viewing experience much more immersive in low-light environments. The self-emissive pixels in OLEDs can turn off completely, resulting in true blacks and stunning picture quality that is unmatched in dark settings. So, when someone asks, "What is the best TV?" the answer really depends on your specific viewing conditions and preferences. There is no one-size-fits-all answer.
Where is the frame-by-frame comparison between the TCL QM851g and the Sony Bravia 9?
This doesnt even come close to OLED in any area other than brightness, which is not even needed. I will take contrast and 1500 nits over 3000 nits and shit contrast, washed out colors etc. Also, humans dont have green fingers @5:20
Good thing the Bravia 9 offers both amazing color and amazing contrast, not to mention incredible brightness!
This has it all Oled level blacks and 3000nits of brightness. Washed out colors where?
@@madpistol If you compare them side by side, the difference in contrast is so big, no amount of extra SDR brightness is going to make up for it. Unless you want your eyes soaring. In HDR, in over 95 percent of scenes, the brightness difference is minimal. B9 suffers additional problems as blooming, bad input lag for all gamers, it is more expensive, has bad grey uniformity, lower color gamut, and also has very, very bad viewing angles.
@@nikolajovanovic3647 well then it’s a good thing that I have an LG OLED to compare it against. Actually, I have three. The Bravia 9 beats the pants off all of them.
Fomo, if you adjust black level and/or gama on the QM8 does the clouding get any better?
My 85" finally came in I went from the x90k. So I am very happy. I'm giving the 85 x90k to a family member and I have an 85" x91j which looks better then the x90k.
X90k was trash, in my opinion.
Is the 98” QM8 going to perform significantly better on the starfield test compared to a smaller size?
If oled is sooooo great, ever heard of burn in? ABL? Image retention. Banding. Pink or green tints. Price. Small size. And no peace of mind when static bright lights are on a couple of hours a day, or even longer while gaming
I have but my 2017/18 LG that I have used for hundreds and upon hundreds hours of gaming , movies and regular tv usage. Haven’t even seen Image retention.. so no unless you has like zero brain and just let CNN run 24/7 this really shouldn’t be a worry.
Considering my tv doesn’t even include most of the modern anti burn in features that was added the years after my tv. I wouldn’t worry now
But yah always people out experience talking.. Bla Bla bla
I’ve had my LG CX 65” since 2020 and I game daily , watch movies, my kid plays on it as well.
I do have Best Buy geek squad 5 year warranty so really wouldn’t care about issue as I would get a new one, but I’ve had 0 issues with burn in , TV has been 100% solid.
I’m tempted to get a B9 or B8 or waiting for A95L to drop in price or stay with LG due to great experience and get a G4 in 77 or 83 if prices drop during Holidays
@@closg9309 I recently upgraded from a CX 55'' as well, 0 issues in 4 years+ with over 2000 hours gaming, there's a reason why people can transition to OLED from mini LED but almost no one goes back from OLED to mini LED
No burn in my E9 - 12k hours on vivid. Banding non issue B9 has much worse DSE btw. Price - G4 77 or s95d 40% cheaper than B9 in UK.
B9 is brighter but not where it matters in small highlights in real scenes in dimmer. Also 2.6k nits in 10% and under is not that much brighter than 1500 nits, not night and day difference. You do lose 3D OLED effect which is quite a sacrifice as it prevalent in big portion of scenes. Where it would win is size. But 85” is not enough.
Whats your prediction for the Shootout this year? would you consider REMOVING the Matte Film on the S95D?! or have 2 S95D's. that would be a awesome video. if you would remove the Matte FIlm. ask The Display Guy, if you need help. he knows how to remove the Matte films
It's so difficult to understand people complaining about this so called 'soap opera' effect. To my eyes the smoother the better and I just don't see the issue. I always set my TV to full motion modes 🤷😅
Yep i love it....makes it look more real....i even converted a few people over to it.
It looks terrible, you are ruining what you are watching.
Nah at max everything unrealistic and exaggeratedly sped up like a video game. You want the lowest setting that u notice no stutter
Either you see it or you don't. I despise the soap opera effect.
One thing FOMO didn’t do when testing motion is setting G4 to cinematic mode where it adjusts automatically based on movement- best of both worlds- but of soap opera only when needed
PLEASE HELP! Bravia 9 85" or X90L 98".....This is really a tough one for me. The wow factor of the 98" will be amazing but it appears the Bravia 9 is the best TV ever produced.
Did you mean 98” X90L?
@@lpromer4796 yes
Looking forward to it! I've heard that the uniformity on the bravia 9 65 is not good. Is this true? Also , if true,wouldn't that mean that the larger sizes will be worse?
My 85 is amazing
@@NexGenTek ty. No dirty screen effects?
LCDs can have DSE, Oleds can have banding.... it's always a bit of a gamble what you will get. Most people buy a panel and see no problems so they are quiet.
That's the one thing that worries me about the bravia 9
My 75 inch B9 is incredible. Full stop. End of story.
I'll be honest I'm too poor for any of those so I went with the LG C3.. 65-inch.
But im loving it. It will be my TV for the next 5yrs easy
Good tv, has al the basic options people need for series, console games and movies.
Just a little less bright than g series and different chip set.
TCL qm8 will be much better value for 97” later this year. That’s where cinema feel starts
It's crazy how the size of a TV shrinks once you let it move in
@@444chroma indeed it does. 6 years ago i thought its insane to have 65” tv
Value is relative.
It's NOT tied to the cheapest price or the most bang for the buck product.
I’ve got a 85” B9, it’s amazing.
Why can't you just compare it to other LCD's instead of pretending it's something it's not?
Boeoeoeoe... hahaha
Exactly 💯
The QM8 is in there
What? He’s not pretending anything this beast can go up against Oled too and win.
because it costs more than the best oleds...
I wish you would have the TV identification on each screen.
Willing to hear you out.. but unless you have the worst light controlled room. I don’t see it beating out the perfect blacks.
The Bravia 9 doesn’t have perfect OLED blacks. What it does is bring out the definition within the blacks. It doesn’t crush out the blacks like an OLED does. Brightness with purpose. My 75 inch Bravia 9 is simply incredible. I had the LG G4 on order and canceled it. Saved me money and it has been more than worth it.
@@KonaLife you think you made the right decision. Only way to know, is to have bought both and place side by side!
I promise this is the last time I spam this comment haha... Next livestream where you have the TVs all up, can we see the QM851 compared with the HX3110 with the following changes? Black Level at 48 and/or Gamma at 2.3. Like I posted in the live chat, I think that gets you closer to reference with a bit less clouding/blooming based on some feedback AVS users have posted and my own experience with previous QM850 firmware.
Side by sides mean absolutely nothing - especially the subjective and quite frankly wild way that FOMO chooses to illustrate differences in products. Take them all with a large pinch of salt as so many variables come in to play.