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Indian origin of Zoroastrianism -
The Rigveda can be divided into 4 time periods
(1) Pre Rigveda
(2) Early Books of Rigveda (Early Period)
(3) Middle books of Rigveda (Middle Period)
(4) Late books of Rigveda (Late Period)
The Early, Middle, Late Books of Rigveda are composed in Vedic Sanskrit but they are not same. It is observed that for many words Each period uses different vocabulary... the rules of Sandhi are also found bit different for many words.
for example take a word : Night - it is Nakta in Early books of RV, Kshapa in Middle Books of RV and Ratr in Late Books of RV.
In Avesta the world Kshapa was used for Night. That means Avesta is composed after Middle Rigvedic Period or During Middle Late Vedic Period but not before that. (The word Kshapa later becomes Shaba in Persian for Night eg. Shab-e-khair, Shab-e-barat).
Now who is Rishi Zarathusta/Zarathustra (Zoroaster) :
The Hymns of Early books of Rigveda exalts many RISHIS and KINGS as their GREAT ANCESTORS from the DISTANT PAST, Some of them are even revered as the Progenitors the Primordial beings.
In these Hymns These Ancestors are praised as Divine beings and revered as Deities and frequently invoked for guidance and blessings from them.
Here we discuss about only few of them :
ANGARAS
BHRIGU
ATHARVAN
BRIHASPATI
SHUKRACHARYA (USANA KAVI)
JAMADAGNI
ANGARAS was a BRHAMRISHI and one of the SAPTARISHI. His descendants and Pupils are called as ANGARASAS and BHARADVAJAS they are the most powerful Rishis throughout Vedic Period.
Brahmrishi BRIHASPATI was the descendant of ANGARAS.
Maharishi BHARADVAJA was the descendant of BRIHASPATI.
In the Early Hymns of Early Mandalas (Book) of Rigveda it is explained how ANGARASAS and BHARADVAJAS were previously associated themselves with Bhagwan VARUNA.
But after the heroic victory of alliance of Aryan tribes in a major war with opposing Aryan tribes who's alliance was lead by King VRITRA and his brother VALA. The Allegiance was gradually shifted from Bhagwan VARUNA to towards Bhagwan INDRA who was a young deity in comparison to Old VARUNA
It was the war of survival and the victory was not that easy after facing several setbacks in several smaller battels the ANGARASAS decided to invoke Bhagwan INDRA for help for Victory, INDRA a younger deity in comparison to Bhagwan VARUNA.
ANGARASAS and BHARADVAJAS gradually replaces Bhagwan VARUNA with Bhagwan INDRA as their Tutelary Deity.
BHRIGU was a BRAHMRISHI and one of the SAPTARISHI, His descendants and Pupils are called as BHARGAVAS / BHRIGUS and ATHARVANS. His descendants also call themselves as Sons of VARUNA.
The Primordial Maharishi ATHARVAN was descendant of BHRIGU.
Maharishi ATHARVAN was the first person who Instituted the FIRE YAJNA Rituals.
The Great Maharishi SHUKRACHARYA (USANA KAVI) was also the descendant of the BHRIGU.
The Maharishi JAMADAGNI was descendants of Bhrigu from Maharishi Chyavana Line. His Son RAMA JAMADAGNI also famously known as PARASHURAMA was the author of RIGVEDA X.110.8
How RAMA JAMADAGNI become PARSHU RAMA and his connection with PARSU people, is another story to tell.
BHRIGU and his Clan BHARGAVAS / BHRIGUS and ATHARVANS were distinct from other Rishis in their dress style, they only wear WHITE cloths. That is why they are also called as SVETAMA (Vedic Sanskrit) or SPITAMA in (Avestan).
BHARGAVAS and ATHARVANS were associated themselves with Bhagwan VARUNA and revered him as their Tutelary Deity. In Many Hymns BHRIGU was mentioned as BHRIGUVARUNE.
MITRA ,VARUNA, INDRA, BHAGA, VAC, RUDRA, AGNI, VISHNU, USHAS, ARYAMAN, PARJANYA, SAVITR, TVASTR, APAM NAPAT, AREDEVI SURA ANAHITA (AARADHYA DEVI SHAKTI), MARUTS are the OLDEST PRE VEDIC Deities they are mentioned from the oldest layers of Rigveda, From Early Mandalas to Late Mandalas.
In the Early Books of Rigveda we can see that in some Hymns Deities MITRA, VARUNA, INDRA, VISHNU, RUDRA, ARYAMAN, AGNI, ASHWINS, USHA, APAM NAPAT, ANAHITA etc. were in some Hymns invoked as ASURA and in some Hymns invoked as DAEVA. This trend continued till Middle Books of Rigveda. But in Late Books there is hardly any reference of any Deity as ASURA.
Bhagwan VARUNA was the Oldest GOD of Sanatan Dharma. He was the earliest God who has all the attributes of Supreme deity.
Bhagwan VARUNA was Giver and Keeper of Cosmic Order RTA, One who Regulates, Control And Preserve the Laws of Universal Order, Laws of Natural Order, Laws of Social Order, The God of Night Sky, One who controls Rivers and Oceans, who is Guardian of all the Directions, who is cause and effect of All, God of Intellect and Consciousness and because of these attributes he was venerated as Chief of Asura's thus got another name i.e. ASURA MAHAT in Vedic Sanskrit or AHURA MAZDA in Avestan meaning the great Asura.
Prior to the Bhagwan INDRA, Bhagwan VARUNA was worship as the Supreme Deity of the Sanatan Dharma.
Bhagwan INDRA was the Chief of DAEVA’S, he is a Creator Preserver Sustainer and Protector God, A attributes which was in Later Smriti and Puranic Scriptures bestowed upon to Bhagwan Vishnu. Bhagwan VISHNU is the younger brother of Bhagwan INDRA.
Bhagwan INDRA is revered as Supreme deity, as the most important deity of Vedas, The Supreme Power, All Mighty and Powerful, one who directs Natural and Celestial Forces, Guardian of all the Directions, One Who grants Wishes, Accommodating and Easy to Please.
ASURA - are the class of Deities who Represents the INNER --> Reality, Nature, True Self, Embodiment, Personification, Expression, Essence, Manifestation, Intellect, Wisdom, Intelligence, Thoughts And Its Relation with the Outer World.
Amarakosa, the Sanskrit Thesaurus called Asuras as Purva Deva (Former God). So the ancient scholars knew that the connotation changed slowly.
Statistically- Asura is used in a positive sense 59 times in the Rig Veda & only 12 times in a negative sense- that too only in Late Book of Rigveda.
DAEVA - are class of Deities who Represents the OUTER --> Reality, Nature, Creation, Manifestation and Its Relation with our Nature and Existence.
In Ancient times People are Called ASURA and DAEVA according to their Tutelary Deity. In a Family one can be Asura or Deva depending upon his or her Chosen Tutelary Deity, Many Tribes, Clans, Families and Schools have their own Tutelary Deity according to which they were described as Asura and Deva.
In Vedas There were many King's and Rishi's in the same Lineage who are Asura or Deva depending upon their chosen Tutelary Deity.
After the Battle of Ten Kings, The ANGARASAS BHARADVAJAS became very powerful and as they try to assert their domination over the entire Vedic Geography and Society.
The old rivalry between ATHARVAN BHRIGUS and ANGARASAS BHRADVAJAS blown into major conflict.
This conflict between the two major Vedic group eventually resulted in the Fallout and Separation of Atharvan Bhrigus from Its Vedic Branch and their migration towards far west.
This conflict was not mentioned or recorded in the VEDAS but clearly recorded in the AVESTA further the absence of Atharvan Bhrigus from family books of Rigveda proves the case.
Zarathustra was the descendant of this separated Atharvanas Bhrigus Branch, and thus he wears white cloths. And because of this he was also known as Spitama Zarathustra and Atharvan Zarathustra.
Zarathustra a.k.a Zoroaster, Founded the worlds first Monotheistic sect (later became religion) an Offshoot of Vedic Philosophy known as Mazdayasna (VARUNA = ASURA MAHAT = AHURA MAZDA worship) or Zoroastrianism.
This further led to the Acrimony between Vedic Branch and its Offshoot Zoroastrianism. And this reflects in late Books of Rigveda and Post Vedic Texts and in Entire Avesta. The Demonization of DAEVA'S by Zoroastrians and Demonization of ASURA by Hindus.
The Cause of Conflict between these two major Vedic Groups:
1. The rise of Indra the king of Daevas and the steep decline of Varuna the Asura and his eventual eclipse in the Vedic pantheon had lot to do with widening the rift between the Angaras and Bhrigu clans.
2. The shabby treatment meted out to Varuna the Asura Mahat, the watering down the laws of Varuna the Rta offended the Bhrigu clan greatly. Bhrigus hailde themselves as sons of Varuna.
3. Varuna in the early Rig Veda was a highly venerated god. He was hailed as the sole sovereign sky-god; the powerful Asura, the King of both men and gods, and of all that exists. He governed the laws of nature as also the ethical conduct of men. But with time, Varuna was steadily stripped of his powers one-by-one and relegated to a very minor rank. Further, one of the most fundamental aspects of Varuna the Rta, which signified the greatest good not merely ensured the physical order but also the moral order in the universe, was given a go by.
4. The Bhrigus followed the doctrine of the ancestors (pitris) or the older gods (Asura). The Supreme Asura the Father -Varuna the Asura Mahat (the mighty Asura) was highly venerated by the Bhrigus. The Bhrigu cult which adopted monotheistic approach wholly favoured the worship of the invisible Asura the Father Varuna through the medium of the formless fire Agni that lights the path of the Fathers (the fire does not have much of a form-at least not a static one). They dis-favoured icon worship. The Bhrigus strived to abide by Rta the physical and moral laws of Varuna. And, insisted on sharp distinctions between the good and evil.
5. Rivalry - That rivalry went far back into the Pre-Vedic Past. During the times of the Early Rig Veda the Angarasas were regarded the dominant priests, while the Bhrigus and Atharvanas who were synonymous with fire-priests were on the fringe.
With its roots in Vedic religion, the Zoroastrian insight into the unity of the Godhead as Ahura Mazda anticipates the later development of monotheistic currents within Hinduism.
can u sent the link of this information.
Thank you sir . Great study
I think Asur and Deva is not Good Evil but the concept for Winner Loser that may be reason for Sometimes Indra varuna mentioned as asura
Wonderful analysis. Who you are and what you do? I would like to know more about this kind of work.
@@aryadharmasanatanam Deva are mentioned as Evil because they eat animals which are used for farming and Asur are not able to do farming and also Devas are liquior piss person's which is also metioned
Zorostrians Worship Fire just as Vedic People.
@@NativeVsColonial Sure it is
Zoroastrians worship in infront of the fire... Not fire itself like in vedic yagnas..
They don't worship fire. They consider fire as a symbol of divinity.
@@prakharprabhat585 fire is divinity for us too
@@chaitanyavarada6737 Ways differ Not The Holy Fire.
A very interesting fact :- The Zoroastrians perform the Yagya with water instead of fire as we see in Sanatan Dharma, shows rebellion I guess.
Agni and Varuna Deva-s were originally Asura-s but they consumed Amrit during The Great Churning, hence became Immortal Deva-s.
@@atharvbaghel2658 I literally don't get it
No they perform Yasna with fire.
@@atharvbaghel2658 lol not at all. dont speculate. go read actual scripture.
@@vivashvanbhushan3422 Tu padh jake gadhe
Thank you for this simple, clear and understandable explanation of the origin of Zooastrianism. When you described him as the first prophet with the first revealed religion, all sorts of things fell into place in my mind. Thanks!
Where are you from?
@@sarbeshmallick6452 The surname Avakian ends in ian, which most likely means he is from Armenia.
Please read my comment for more information
The very reason Fredrick Nietzsche named his book 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra'
Thank you for this intersting video. As an Iranian, I'm very curious about the origin of our race and religion from the perspective of Hindus. because personly I believe the most realistic and near to truth story comes from east instead of west.it would be great if you reveal more information about Iranian and Indian relation.
Same people, same religion and language even DNS is same.
Hey bro.
Read an interesting book ( it has got some genuine links with fictional story)
Book name - Magicians of Mazda.
Ahura mazda (persian) and (rigveda)
has common texts.
Author - Ashwin Sanghi.
Thank me later 😀
Indian origin of Zoroastrianism -
The Rigveda can be divided into 4 time periods
(1) Pre Rigveda
(2) Early Books of Rigveda (Early Period)
(3) Middle books of Rigveda (Middle Period)
(4) Late books of Rigveda (Late Period)
The Early, Middle, Late Books of Rigveda are composed in Vedic Sanskrit but they are not same. It is observed that for many words Each period uses different vocabulary... the rules of Sandhi are also found bit different for many words.
for example take a word : Night - it is Nakta in Early books of RV, Kshapa in Middle Books of RV, Ratr in Late Books of RV.
In Avesta the world Kshapa was used for Night. That means Avesta is composed after Middle Rigvedic Period or During Late Middle Vedic Period but not before that.
Now who is Rishi Zarathustra (Zoroaster) :
The Hymns of Early books of Rigveda exalts many RISHIS and KINGS as their GREAT ANCESTORS from the DISTANT PAST, Some of them are even revered as the Progenitors the Primordial beings.
In these Hymns These Ancestors are praised as Divine beings and revered as Deities and frequently asked for guidance and blessings from them.
Here we discuss about only few of them :
ANGARAS
BHRIGU
ATHARVAN
BRIHASPATI
SHUKRACHARYA (USANA KAVI)
JAMADAGNI
ANGARAS was a BRHAMRISHI and one of the SAPTARISHI. His descendants and Pupils are called as ANGARASAS and BHARADVAJAS they are the most powerful Rishis throughout Vedic Period.
Brahmrishi BRIHASPATI was the descendant of ANGARAS.
Maharishi BHARADVAJA was the descendant of BRIHASPATI.
The Maharishi JAMADAGNI was descendants of Bhrigu from Maharishi Chyavana Line. His Son RAMA JAMADAGNI also famously known as PARASHURAMA was author of RIGVEDA X.110.8
How RAMA JAMADAGNI become PARASHU RAMA and his connection with PARSU people and that is another story to tell.
In the Early Hymns of Early Mandalas (Book) of Rigveda it is explained how ANGARASAS and BHARADVAJAS were previously associated themselves with God VARUNA but after the Heroic Victory of Aryans over King VRITRA and his brother VALA, after invoking INDRA for Victory. ANGARASAS and BHARADVAJAS gradually replaces God VARUNA with INDRA as their Tutelary Deity.
BHRIGU was a BRAHMRISHI and one of the SAPTARISHI, His descendants and Pupils are called as BHARGAVAS / BHRIGUS and ATHARVANS. His descendants also call themselves as Sons of VARUNA.
The Primordial Maharishi ATHARVAN was descendant of BHRIGU.
Maharishi ATHARVAN was the first person who Instituted the FIRE YAJNA Rituals.
The Great Maharishi SHUKRACHARYA (USANA KAVI) was also the descendant of the BHRIGU.
ATHARVANS were distinct from other Rishis in their dress style, they only wear WHITE cloths. That is why they are also called as SVETAMA (Vedic Sanskrit) or SPITAMA in (Avestan).
BHARGAVAS and ATHARVANS were associated themselves with God VARUNA and revered him as their Tutelary Deity. In Many Hymns BHRIGU was mentioned as BHRIGUVARUNE.
MITRA ,VARUNA, INDRA, BHAGA, VAC, RUDRA, AGNI, VISHNU, USHAS, ARYAMAN, PARJANYA, SAVITR, TVASTR, MARUTS are the OLDEST PRE VEDIC Deities they are mentioned from the oldest layers of Rigveda, From Early Mandalas to Late Mandalas.
In the Early Books of Rigveda we can see that in some Hymns Deities MITRA VARUNA INDRA RUDRA ARYAMAN etc. were sometimes invoked as ASURA and in some Hymns invoked as DAEVA. This trend continued till Middle Books of Rigveda. But in Late Books there is hardly any reference of any Deity as ASURA.
God VARUNA was the King of ASURA’S thus has another name i.e ASURA MAHAT (meaning Chief of Asuras) (AHURA MAZDA of Zoroastrianism) , He was Revered as Giver and Keeper of Cosmic Order RTA, One who Regulates, Control And Preserve the Laws of Universal Order, Laws of Natural Order, Laws of Social Order, Morality, Truth and Justice. Lord of the Rivers and Oceans Whereas GOD INDRA was of the King of DAEVA’S. Lord of Natural and Celestial Forces, The Supreme Power, All Mighty and Powerful, The Creator and Sustainer God, Who grants Wishes, Accommodating and easy to please.
Just as the VEDIC MITRA is virtually inseparable from VARUNA throughout the Vedas, MITHRA is closely linked with AHURA MAZDA in the AVESTA. This suggests that Ahura Mazda is then a compound divinity in which the favorable characteristics of MITRA negate the unfavorable qualities of VARUNA.
ASURA - are class of Deities who Represents the INNER --> Reality, Nature, True Self, Embodiment, Personification, Expression, Essence, Manifestation, Intellect, Wisdom, Intelligence, Thoughts And Its Relation with the Outer World.
Amarakosa, the Sanskrit Thesaurus called Asuras as Purva Deva (Former God). So the ancient scholars knew that the connotation changed slowly.
Statistically- Asura is used in a positive sense 59 times in the Rig Veda & only 12 times in a negative sense- that too only in Late Book of Rigveda.
Asura, as a term for God, is preserved in the following branches-
Avestan - Ahura
Assyrian - Assur
Akkadian - Ashur
Babylonia - Anshar
Sumerian - Ashur
Mittani - Asura
Hurrians - Assur
Hittite - Hassu
Norse - Aesir
Germanic - Aesir
Runic - AnsuR
Old Irish - Eissi
DAEVA - are class of Deities who Represents the OUTER --> Reality, Nature, Creation, Manifestation and Its Relation with our Nature and Existence.
In Ancient times People are Called ASURA and DAEVA according to their Tutelary Deity. In a Family one can be Asura or Deva depending upon his or her Chosen Tutelary Deity, Many Tribes, Clans, Families and Schools have their own Tutelary Deity according to which they were described as Asura and Deva.
In Vedas There were many King's and Rishi's in the same Lineage who are Asura or Deva depending upon their chosen Tutelary Deity.
After the Battle of Ten Kings, The ANGARASAS BHARADVAJAS became very powerful and as they try to assert their domination over the entire Vedic Geography and Society.
The old rivalry between ATHARVAN BHRIGUS and ANGARASAS BHRADVAJAS blown into major conflict.
This conflict between the two major Vedic group eventually resulted in the Fallout and Separation of Atharvan Bhrigus from Its Vedic Branch and their migration towards far west.
This conflict was not mentioned or recorded in the VEDAS but clearly recorded in the AVESTA further the absence of Atharvan Bhrigus from family books of Rigveda proves the case.
Zarathustra was the descendant of this separated Atharvanas Bhrigus Branch, and thus he wears white cloths. And because of this he was also known as Spitama Zarathustra and Atharvan Zarathustra.
Zarathustra a.k.a Zoroaster, Founded the worlds first Monotheistic sect (later became religion) an Offshoot of Vedic Philosophy known as Mazdayasna (VARUNA = ASURA MAHAT = AHURA MAZDA worship) or Zoroastrianism.
This further led to the Acrimony between Vedic Branch and its Offshoot Zoroastrianism. And this reflects in late Books of Rigveda and Post Vedic Texts and in Entire Avesta. The Demonization of DAEVA'S by Zoroastrians and Demonization of ASURA by Hindus.
The Cause of Conflict between these two major Vedic Groups:
1. The rise of Indra the king of Daevas and the steep decline of Varuna the Asura and his eventual eclipse in the Vedic pantheon had lot to do with widening the rift between the Angaras and Bhrigu clans.
2. The shabby treatment meted out to Varuna the Asura Mahat, the watering down the laws of Varuna the Rta offended the Bhrigu clan greatly. Bhrigus hailde themselves as sons of Varuna.
3. Varuna in the early Rig Veda was a highly venerated god. He was hailed as the sole sovereign sky-god; the powerful Asura, the King of both men and gods, and of all that exists. He governed the laws of nature as also the ethical conduct of men. But with time, Varuna was steadily stripped of his powers one-by-one and relegated to a very minor rank. Further, one of the most fundamental aspects of Varuna the Rta, which signified the greatest good not merely ensured the physical order but also the moral order in the universe, was given a go by.
4. The Bhrigus followed the doctrine of the ancestors (pitris) or the older gods (Asura). The Supreme Asura the Father -Varuna the Asura Mahat (the mighty Asura) was highly venerated by the Bhrigus. The Bhrigu cult which adopted monotheistic approach wholly favoured the worship of the invisible Asura the Father Varuna through the medium of the formless fire Agni that lights the path of the Fathers (the fire does not have much of a form-at least not a static one). They dis-favoured icon worship. The Bhrigus strived to abide by Rta the physical and moral laws of Varuna. And, insisted on sharp distinctions between the good and evil.
5. Rivalry - That rivalry went far back into the Pre-Vedic Past. During the times of the Early Rig Veda the Angarasas were regarded the dominant priests, while the Bhrigus and Atharvanas who were synonymous with fire-priests were on the fringe.
With its roots in Vedic religion, the Zoroastrian insight into the unity of the Godhead as Ahura Mazda anticipates the later development of monotheistic currents within Hinduism.
@@sapien900 wow, wonderfully beautiful explanation and seemingly very true, as much as I understand. Thank you so much . It made me really happy to know we have same roots. If you have any knowledge about origin of Islam and judisim please share with me. I would be very grateful to you. Thank you again 😊.
@@vivekpuri-08 thank you so much. 🙏
Me after watching your every single video
I am like:Aapke charan kaha hai prabhu??
He really does have the same amount of knowledge as any guru
@@arnavshah2931 yes and I am not jocking at all by saying aapke charan kahan hai prabhu,he is really a guru for us,and we should respect and protect people like abhijit ji
@@rajbhargava7796 Yeah I agree. He is spreading vital truths about us here that we would not know otherwise bc of our shitty leftist-infiltrated education system
@Anant radhe you dumbass, Hinduism allows and even promotes you to have gurus. You need a guide to cross the spiritual forest to enlightenment
@Anant radhe are maine prabhu kaha hai par yahan par uska matlab bhagwan nahi hai!!And I too know that,and I am not blind worshipper
Only if the Islamic Republic of Iran was not so oppressive, scores of Iranians would have openly reverted back to Zoroastrianism.
I have one theory,
I heard in the battle of 10 Kings
Indra also helped Bharat King to Win the war,
So when Parsua clan lost
They somehow thought that Indra was evil
And if Indra is evil
Probably all of the devas are evil
And if devas are evil then may be Asuras are good, I repeat that's not what I think, It's just my assumption like what they might have thought about Devas after the battle of 10 Kings.
And probably that's we still have many things in common.
Yup I think so too.. many incidents/stories portray Indra to be very impulsive in nature, by the time he realises that he was NOT supposed to do/say so, the damage is already done 🤣
@@TruthAlwaysWins nope that is just tv serials . Vedas don't talk about him like that.
@@TruthAlwaysWinsBut which Indra are we talking about, there were many Indras, some were good some were impulsive, Indra is name of the post not name of a Deva, RigVedic Indra was good, he was a good ruler, kind King but when in later times those people who took the role of Indra became proud of themselves and became Impulsive and that's why we see different versions of Indra now next Indra is said to be Maharaj Bali whom Lord Vishnu himself gave boon to be Indra in the next Manvantar, Current Indra is Puranadar.
In the battle of 10 kings we are talking about Rigvedic Indra who Helped One King against whom 9 other Kings were standing, so here you can see that Indra helped the needy one, the one who needs the strength,
Parsua people rebelled against Sanatana Dharma just because Indra was not by their side and declared Indra as false god to destroy the name and Zoroastrinism was formed which later Influenced Judaism which later Influenced Christianity which later Influenced Islam all of them talk about False Gods, So you see how they spreaded the hatred for Sanatana Dharma but they couldn't completely take over Bharat because ultimately Bharat is the Spiritual land where their Mother Religion was born that's why they couldn't completely convert it to an Abrahamic Country even after countless Invasion,
You can spread lies but can not defeat the truth,
Same happened in Battle of 10 Kings where The King Supported by Indra Won and same thing is happening today, The Country Supported by Dharma is still Standing tall,
Asuric powers won't gain total control over this land.
@@zahraa755Actually Indra is a post just like the post of Prime Minister,
Many people took the role of Indra,
Some were good in nature some got impulsive
Vedas talk about the Indra of Good Nature, protector of Mankind.
No, all the groups of people existed even before Kalyug back in Satyug itself. You see in the ages of Treta and Dwapar, Asuras and Patalis like Ravana and Bhagadatt all used to reign over Iran and Iraq right, so both of their cultures might have been easily been influenced by them.
In Zoroastrianism,there is a practice of devotion to fire just like in Hinduism,there is practice of Agni 👍
I'm going through Book, Rig veda and Avesta by srikant talageri. Its actually very beautiful and funny at the same time. You can see the rivalry turned into mythology later in the wars between DEVAS and Asuras. And Zarathustra did record third battle in rig veda at the time of somaka(humayaka) in Avesta. And one of the allies of Zarathustras' people was Manuschitra son of Airyu. In Rig veda hes chitraratha son of Arna. Avesta doesnt know abt Divodasa and Suda battle. So u can imagine how old was Battle of ten kings at the time of Sudas. zarathustra was composer of oldest gathas in Avesta. and the language matches with late books of Rig veda and contemporary people in late books of rig veda are the ancestors or ppl who lived before Zarathustra. so from mitanni evidence and Rig vedic evidence Zarathustra wud be atleast as old as late books of rig veda
The word 'Avesta' or 'Avestan' is very important in Tajikistan
@@loggygaming2112 oh yea. Tajiks are also linguistically closer to Indians iranians. More to Avestan/Persian.
Manuschitra sounds like Manuchehr
@@yaqubebased1961 very interesting.
@@souventudubanned persians? They were not budhist but vedic hinduism or zoroastians.
In a language where s and h are interchanged, where mas (month) becomes mah, ahura mazda is actually asura mahada (mahadev)!
woww...didnt think about that at all
Then... Ahura becomes Asura, Mazda becomes Mahada. Asura Mahadev. Interesting
It isn't. It is Asura Medha. The zh is derived from Dha. It means the knowledgeable god. He is supposed to be omniscient
The hyme OM is not actually OM it is chanted as
AUM ( AHURA MAZDA )that is the combination of a male and a female crafted by the force of nature
Don't play with religious words the way you want.
What you said should be backed by strong evidence especially when it's the matter of divinity.
He is the Next Rajiv dixit 🙏🇮🇳❤
They became wealthy by helping the British East India company in the Opium trade that impoverished Indian farmers & collapsed Chinese economy. Most of them identified themselves as outsiders to be in the good books of the British and prefer to live in UK
Are you referring to Parsis?
No most of parsis in the world are living in India .they consider very much patriotic towards BHARAT .Tata and Vikram sara bhayi are examples
@@chitranjankumarkushwaha4259 She is correct that Parsi took part in Opium trade. However, a lot of that money was used to build great institutional buildings in Bombay.
One group of parsis came 1000 years ago, another group came to India when the British were in power and they were very loyal to the British. Parsi community remained a faceless community in India for a very long time. They saw British Raj as an opportunity to become rich and affluent. Therefore there is a saying that never trust outsiders.
@@mator2339 my dear Biharis were banned from entering armed forces after 1857 till 1941 and many bhumihars were soldiers of this regiment. All the communities which you mentioned have produced freedom fighters too if they worked for the British. What about Parsis? And one particular group of Parsis came to India from Iran who were very loyal to the British as the British government gave them shelter in India.
The question why did Zoroaster became first Prophet and declared a Prophecy and created concepts of eternal heaven and hell always intrigued me. This concept has caused the most destruction in past few thousand years.
Why did he created this? Why did he created rebellion against Dharma/Hinduism? Why did it spread so quickly and was accepted by people?
These questions are always intriguing and it's just sad how history of the world changed because of this Zoroaster. 😒
We need Time Machine.
@@vaibhavvishal7865 i need it, I'll go to Dwarika to see Shri Krishna 😍
@@ILLUTIX no
The zoroastrian books are composed by westerns they have added xtian centric narrative and made it averse to Vedic dharma
@C!a!R!n!A!g!E that I know but why they opposed Hinduism?
Sir, you're my biggest inspiration ❤
Please include an episode on demise of Tippu sultan father Haider Ali after his ransacking of Tirupathi temple… he could not cross the border also died with typhoid …this would be an answer for athiest who say our gods cannot save themselves
Thank you Abhijit sir for clearing this. This same question was stuck in my mind for a long time and I was not able find an answer.
We are some and Blood brotherhood. For ever 🇮🇷❤ 🇮🇳
where are you from?
لطفا
قسشعر نباف
هندی ها از لحاظ ژنتیکی ژن بسیار زیادی از استرولوئید های سیاه دارن که اونا رو از ما دور میکنه
But even in the Vedas, the line between asura and devas is not water tight. One of the most revered vedic deities, Varuna is called asura in the Vedas.
Asura are not evil in hinduism….samudra mathan lead to the narrative.
Traces of Zoroastrianism still can be found in Tibetan Buddhism like the Ka Puja and other various rituals
If I can add, the Asuras aren't actually evil per se in the Vedas, it is the role that they have been ascribed to from our perspectives, we being followers of the Devas. There is a duality in everything, no black and white, only grey. These people just happen to be on the side that lost the war, and as we know the winner always writes the history.
Same thing is found in the Mahabharata wouldn't you say? Were the Kauravas truly wrong? Did the Pandavas not do despicable things too?
You are correct. In early Vedic Sanskrit, Asura meant lord.
No kauravas were evil
Also he said asuras are somewhat evil not completely evil..asuras have their own role in the world
No everyone pays for their sins..you and me and even pandavs.
I kinda agree with the Mahabharat point, the pandavas too did some pretty bad things, but then again they had to pay for their sins
We Hayastani people were also Zoroastrian until 330 AD. Hayastan had suddenly a stupid King Trdat who converted to Christianity and ordered all Hayastani people to convert to Christianity but 50% of us said NO WAY and escaped Hayastan and went to Yazd and Isfahan. I wonder if we are mixed in there in India with the community??? Unfortunately my family cinverted to Christianity and I was born a Christian but at 15 rejected it. Now I don't know what I am
I am Iranian, interesting observations
As GuruDev is linking the all historical social dots, I can draw a clear picture....
You are correct that Zoroastrianism has an Indian origin, Abhijitji.
Iran is also India. It is Just that Iran is 1000 Years Old Pakistan hence we forget to include it into our Subcontinent
The difference is that Pakistan was swperated on the basis of religion .
Iran was separated due to a natural cultural evolution .
@@mrdude9671 NO. IRAN WAS CULTURALLY HINDU THAT IS WHY IT PRACTICED PARSI RELIGION BUT WITH THE ADVENT OF ISLAM IRAN BECAME THE FIRST PART TO BE AMPUTATED FROM THE BODY OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT
@@LoverBoy-dg5jb Dreams Come True . Today we may only dream but after the 3rd world war when the islam will get wiped out majorly then again Akhand Bharat will take place .
@@LoverBoy-dg5jb Y Do U Fear So Much ? Iranis Understand that They are ancient indians . We all are brothers and will unite with Love . We have to Bring Them Back With Love .... Karne se Hoga ...
@@LoverBoy-dg5jb
Real names of prominent persian figures
-Cyrus (the great) : Kurush
-Xerxes : Kshayarksha
-Zoroaster : Zutrashta .
All this are Sanskrit names.
Even persian language comes under Indo-European languages .
And Persians have 97% identical blood to Indians .
Just accept reality and facts because facts don’t care about ur feelings .
Good source of knowledge for free thank you so much i am getting so much interested in studying history.
Beautifully explained
Supreme God of Zoroastrianism i.e. Ahura Mazda is none but Lord Vishnu lol.
Probably it was Varuna
@@gouravdey497 Varuna on a Bird...with a chakra ?? That too called as the "Wise Lord" ??
@Badass guy Yes 😂😂.
@@shakyajitmaulik5579 Varuna is known in RV as an Asura, And moreover Mithra is an attendant of Ahura Mazda, And in RV both Mitra-varuna pair is found.
finally someone not infected by the indologist virus.
Assyrians of Babylonia(ultimate origin in Akkadins) were also worshipping 'Ashura' & predate Persian Zoroastrianism. It needs a thorough comparison actually since Mittani too was in the same region & maybe the shift happened post their defeat.
But it should also be noted that via Egypt & Ethiopia, African languages came into West Asia & actually replaced the Indo-European branches of language present there. Something happened at that time actually, and maybe the african migrations into west asia might have happened at the start of dry phase of Sahara Savannah turning into desert due to Milankovich cycle or Earth's wobble which brought foreign gene pool due to migration & invasion as well as the language branch of which Semitic is one of the biggest one containing both Arabic & Hebrew along with other smaller ones.
Now the same Afro-Asiatic branch motivated tribal religion wants to end Sanskrit in India too like they did with old Persian & other iranian & indian languages in Iraq, Levant & Anatolia & to an extent even in Iran(further destruction caused by turkification of Central Asia, Caucus, to an extent even Iran via the Safavids & Anatolia via the Ottomans)!
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone really knows about this type of information. This should be known and understood by the Iranians.
Exactly
They are not taught all this
iranis be like this is pagen things and we dont care knowing about our past, btw when alexander took over prsia he burnt all of it so we dont know about it . and todays iran lives under islamic rule so ...
Aryan used to live northwestern India to Iran 🇮🇷🇵🇰🇮🇳🇦🇫
Yup, sad truth. Even though "Nowroz" is still celebrated in Iran, it's doubtful how many of them are actually aware of their roots.
Thank you indeed for this information 🙏🏼I am Persian and you brought so much clarity to me 🙏🏼💫I have always been puzzled for my love and gravitation towards Hinduism. My beloved father was born in Yazd ( the center of Zoroastrianism)🙏🏼❤️
Sir it's a request to make a full dedication video on the battle of 10 kings at the vedic time.
In these video sir you have explained so many things beautifully in a very good manner and in the end all doubts are cleared
Sir im brahman from uttar pradesh
My family mention
As in गोत्र system that
Parshu ke mishr
Its refer to parshu clan
Or parshu clan have connection with bhagwan Parshuram ji
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There are certain books by Indian historians written in 1950's which gives detailed information about what happened during time of Jartrustra time and why they followed inverse roll models.
please list some names if you could :)
Kindly spill their names 🙏🏻
Thank you Abhijit. Love your historical reporting!! ❤
The judgement day, hell and heaven concepts were added by western based on xtian fairy tales.
Zarathustra didn't talk about all that absurdity.
He was born in North bharat close to Hindu kush
His family was the first who adopted his new religion.
Proto Parshiyans worshipped devas until he brings new concept.
Once again, this religion is distorted by Germans and Englandish.
It can be reformed if Hindu authority ever decides.
Of course, Hindus can't fix their own mess, i don't think, anyone anymore cares about Parshiyan mystery.
Even in modern times, mlechachas occupy the world
Even Heaven and Hell Concepts were there in Hinduism, eg Naraka/Swarga. Naraka was presided over by Lord Yama himself, who is worshiped by every Hindu. The monotheist mlecchas added the concept of "my" including the concept of "My God" and using these tautological constructions they appropriated everything as the "intention" of their "God"; what could not be appropriated was relegated to the domain of "Satan". Very little concrete tradition can be traced to them and it is usually a mock version/defamatory attack against Hinduism under closer scrutiny.
Actually zoroastrianism gave concepts of heaven, hell, judgement day etc. to Abrahamic religions. Don't forget zoroastrianism is older than Christianity. Zoroastrian mystics had even gone to Jerusalem to see Jesus when he was born. They knew about the birth of Jesus.
@@prakharprabhat585 "jesus" is a well known colonial fabrication which allowed for blood libel to be imparted to the Jews - so that they could be eternally damned. The same damnation was also extended to the Hindus in time.
The Magi story shows Easterners in subservience to the West. Similarly, all the various lands in the mideast were shown as being subservient to this fabricated Western "messiah" at various points in "history". These "prophecies" are all fabricated.
Hindus need to stop importing these Abrahamist corruptions into our genuine traditions. Abrahamist stuff is qualitatively very different than Hindu/heathen traditions. Genuine heathen traditions were colonized/appropriated by the Abrahamists and that is why there are superficial similarities seen. But there is no validity/authenticity to the product of this theft. A thief does not become the owner of something just because he fabricates a tale saying so. The Jews to this day do not recognize any claims of this supposed Jesus.
If you go deeper, you will discover that Christianity is the first blueprint of Orientalism.
@@darkprince2490 no nark isnot permanent
@@prakharprabhat585: "zoroastrianism is older than Christianity."
Zoroastrianism is older than Judaism too.
this was a necessary video! i did not know the connection between persians and indians but they seemed to show up together in the dream world.. makes sense now! they are family.. makes sense connecting anahita to saraswati
Generally the "S" in Sanskrit becomes "H" in Avestan(Old Persian)..and "H" becomes "Z" in Avestan..
Hence ,"Ahura Mazda" (instead of the usual translation of the Wise Lord etc) may be translated to "Asura Mahda"..i.e the Mahadeve of the Asuras , Asuras were not the "bad guys" initially..Hence, Ahura Mazda is essentially Mahadeva/Shiva
Avestan isn't old persian lmao get your facts straight pujeet, it was from a complete different branch of Iranic languages
#askabhijit, the marathas ruled all over india repaired and even built every major temple they restored hindutwa, and hindavi swarajya,but still why no one outside of maharashtra knows about them,even in maharashtra they only knows about shivaji maharaj and sambhaji maharaj, while they knows about mastani and not about pratapsurya bajirav who didnt loose a single battle and his son balaji bajirav who expanded the marathas region till atak pakistan, they are completly wiped out. not just them but the marathas of chattisghar,marathas of odisa,marathas of m.p. how did this happen ?
check out who our first education minister was. you ll get the answer.
Marathas expanded kingdom till afghanistan and they almost took back afghanistan for india ij 1749s something but they died before that or their kings died before that. Then britiahers took over and they seperated afghanistan from india and after that well.. yiu know the british history
Marathas are Scytho Dravidian mixed peoples who were Allied with Britishers e.g low clan Gaikwar
Persians were called "Parama Kambhoja" in Ancient Hindu Text like Mahabharata. They fought on side of Kauravas and were defeated, But we are told that Persian Men were known for their Tall Stature, Bravery and Well-Built Fearues. Their King names are given in Mahabharata. Even today, Iranians call their Kings by the title - "Kambuziya".
Interestingly, as a Persian I did several DNA analyses from reputable organizations, and the results indicated that the Persian people are very distinct genetically from the any Indian groups (including Pakistanis and Kashmiris). Every plot reflected that the Iranian people generally are most closely related to the Azerbaijani, Kurdish, Armenian, Ossetian, and other groups from the Caucasus. However, the Balochi people in the south of Iran seemed to be much more closely related to Indian or Southwest Asian groups.
Just generally speaking with respect to phenotypes as well, I have never been mistaken as Indian before. I have regularly been mistaken for Armenian, Lebanese, Iraqi, or Turkish many times, however.
Are you absolutely sure that the Persians descend from India? None of my research seems to indicate that this would be the case. Having said that, there are some distant linguistic similarities. I came from a Zoroastrian Persian family, so I would be very interested to know!
Abhjit is a delusional pan-Indian who spits out many wrong facts.
Probably Indian genetics have mixed with eastern population, whereas Iran's have mixed with western... However, Indians continue to identify with Vedic civilization
This channel is Indian propoganda. He literally claimed zoroaster to be a "hindu" while narrating a story, withouta shred of evidence, don't believe what he says.
As per the common ancestor question - Indo Aryans(founder of India's vedic/hindu religion) and Iranians come from a common ancestor - indo-iranians.
This common descent was like 4000-5000 years ago, and since then the 2 have drifted quite far off. And this is complete BS tat Persians descend from India 💀 atleast with the current evidence we have.
@@randomturd1415 these pan Indians are almost as worse as pan turks
Bro u have been invaded by arabs what do u think happened during invasions msame thing happened with other countries u mentioned mixing of gentics which created a slighly different
we understand that in old rig veda both asuras and devas were interchangeably used. Only in later rig vedic texts are asuras deemed fully evil. Can we conclude that the Zorastrian culture is one of the new rig veda times. Can any one answer this
#AskAbhijit Sir it is said that there are still many sanskrit texts which are yet to be translated/decipered? and are there more epics like mahabharat/Ramayana? which contain great knowledge?
Wow this is very intriguing, is it true
Sanjiv Sanyal mentioned in his talk that there are approx 3 million manuscripts still to be translated.
Many got destroyed by invaders too.. who is to believe that the Brits didn't steal our scriptures too?
They are trying to steal our yoga too 😂 calling it as Christ yoga
It means Zoroastrian is also an dharmic religion not an abrahamic religion
only 3 religions are Abrahamic as thier firs Prophet or first ancestor is Abraham....i.e. Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
@@fucked_mojito yes this 3 religion consider Abraham as there prophet.
So they are abrahamic religions.
Sage Zarathustra was a disciple of Sage Sukracharya. Sukracharya got pissed off with Devas and Vishnu who supported them when he was not selected as Devas' Guru.
He opted himself to be the guru of Asuras who are against Devas.
He planned that Devas and their human supporters need to be taught a lesson. Being a shiv bhakt, he eulogised Shiva against Vishnu.
Lord Shiva also uses Sukracharya indirectly to speed up the destruction at the end of every chaturyugas and manvantara.
Sukracharya commissioned Zarathustra to be his representative for Asuras ,when the Non vedic people ( among Asuras and humans) were driven out of Sapta Sindhu area by Vaivasvata Manu.
Bharat Varsha was split . Area west of Sindh River was called Aryayana. East of Sindhu river was called Aryavarta.
Asuras ( both Danavas and Daitiyas) went and settled in Aryayana region.
Zarathustra was based at Balkh ( now in Afghan) , Persia which included Afghanistan then.
Zarathustra rewrote the Rig Veda in a mirrored way. Devas were depicted as evils /demons, Asuras as Good. Devendra was depicted as the main villain.
To belittle Devendra, Zarathustra made Mitr- Varuna, the sea God as the presiding deity for Asuras.
Instead of Sun god, moon god was celebrated. Agni was ignored as a deity.
Since Devas do rituals in day time praising Sun and Agni, Asuras were asked to do rituals in night time praising Varuna and Chandra.
He even wrote the mirrored Rig Veda from right to left to show a rebellish attitude to devas way of writing from left to right.
The followers were asked to shave their head and moustache but grow only beards.
Everything was done opposite of Devas practices.
Daitiyas settled in Persia, Sumeria, Northetn Africa ( Sahara was a fertile region then)
Danavas settled in East Europe,
West Europe upto Atala Sagar ( Atlantic sea).
Danavas created a sea like lake in Aryayana and named it after their father Kashyapa as Kashyapa Sagar , now called Caspian Sea.
Danavas mother Denu / Danu is God of Rivers and Cows. Most of the european rivers have the root word of Denu / Danu .
Arctic Circle was Brahma Loka, North Siberia was Jana, Tapa Lokas, Central and South Siberia was DevaLoka / Svarga ( referred as Tartaria by the Greek and Sumerian scholars) Tibet was Upa Deva Loka ( housing Yakshas, Kinnaurs, Apsaras etc) upto Himalaya s
Druids, Hittians, Scythians, all were the descendants of migrants from Sapta Sindhu region.
You can find lots of sanskrit root words in ancient european languages , current Lithuanian language too.
South of Himalayas was Agni Loka or Manushya Loka. Here Agni puja and Havans can be done 24/7/365.
Bharata kanda was spread from Maha Meru in Himalayas upto KuMeru ( southern Meru) from Saraswati Sindhu rivers to eastern sea ( Pacific)
Kumeru is referred as Kumari Kandam in Tamil and the huge land mass is now lying submerged in Indian ocean.
It connected Southern peninsular india to Antarctica ( it was not at south pole then) spread from South East Africa to Australia.
Madagascar, Islands in indian ocean , South east asia , Australia etc are the higher ridges of the KuMeru land.
Ahura Mazda and Allah are actually Sage Sukracharya .
He advised a beduin nomad called Mohammad through Rakshasas what to do. Islam was born.
The Persian word Sukriya is referring to Sukracharya. Muslims consider Sukravar / Friday as the holi day due to his connection.
Sukracharya initially established manyvShiv Peeths across Aryayana. Later he brought all those Shiv Lings to a central place in Arabia called Makkeswaram , which is called Mecca now.
Since Persian tribes damaged the main Shiv ling in Makkeswaram, he installed Chandra murti as the main deity there.
Inside Kabba, the chandra murti is there. Also the broken shiv ling of Makkeswaram is kept intact using silver kavachs.
Muslims circumbulate that only in Mecca. Only difference is thst they do in anti clockwise direction opposed to the clockwise direction oused by devas .
Zarathustra is Zoroaster.
Rebels among his disciples who wanted to continue with Agni worship were Farzis.
Indians and Persians were probably following the same religion once upon a time. Chapter Esther in the old testament of the Bible ( many years before Christianity was created) mentions that the old Persian capitol city of Susa had a large Hindu population and during a coup some were put to death, with their names being - Haman son of Hamedhatha, Marasimha, Vazhudhatta, Adhilya, Arasu, Harbachan and so on ! Of course these names still exist in India indicating the extent of the spread of Hindu population in that region. Thanks to the old Testament !!
Actually asuras in rigveda are also referred for devas not daevas, for eg lord varuna is also called as asura in rigveda 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
yes bc varuna dev has asura ministers in his court.
also in the 101 names of Ahura Mazda there is Varuna which is obvious who that is and we have Prajatarah. which means progenitor. those are blatant sanskrit words.
@@vivashvanbhushan3422 yeah
Varun
Abhijit sir is great in explaining the History but
I don't like how sometimes He tries to Correlate everything
Ok but till now the thing that he has said are all correct
@@bebekhalder4379 Exactly
He is Correct in all Correlations
Yeah I agree with on some topics.... But he is genius man
Both Miraz and Mator here just seem to be butthurt Parsis.
Abhijit ji KO Naman 🙏. Brilliant Analysis.
Also yezdis, regard peacock as holy and light diyas. Their ancestory too can be traced to India. Egypt too worshipped sun god " Ra". Sanatan Dharma in some manner or the other had far reach
The Mayan of America & Aborigines of Australia too have traces of similarities with us.
One can sort of reference this in 'Volga se Ganga', a historical fiction by one of our greatest thinkers, Dr. Rahul Sankrityayana. Kudos, Abhijit for keeping our past alive.
What. Is the meaning of Suras ?
In Tamil Nadu there festival where lord Murugan (kartikeyan) annihilate Suran(Suras)
What books do u recommend on this subject, i am obsessed with these recently
Mee too .
Wow it's very very interesting 🤔
#AskAbhijit What is your view on Dr. B R Ambedkar (on his thoughts, struggle, reservation, Buddhism...).What if Dr. Ambedkar had become the first Prime Minister of India?
He answered Your first question many times... But second one was no got or Imagined...
Ram rajya
Sir what happened to our Gene's?? Maharana pratap 7 feet 5 inches , now the avg height of indians is only 5'4
Food.
@@Nonamam yupp western walo ne gandi aadat laga di
@@malaysinghbisht3103 sodhara neevu yémi raasavo naaku théliyédhu. Dhaya chési sarigga chéppu.
Time-to-time, Average Age and height of human beings declines
Ohh Wow 👍🏼✌🏼🕉️🙏🏻 Jai Maharana Pratap Ree 🕉️🙏🏻
Very Interesting. In modern Kurdish: Zard = Yellow, Wshtr = Camel.
Cyrus is the western pronunciation of कुरुष । pre Zoroastrian were devas but followers of Zoroaster were asuras. They used to worship asura ie ahura
Even now all the Iran people I met like their ancient culture and hate Arabs for invading and destroying it. They accept only Islam but not Arab culture. They still celebrate their new year day which is from their old religious calendar and somewhat coincides with Ugadi Telugu new year in India, maybe other few Indian states new year as well. Those Iran people I know through university hardly do Ramzaan fast and are not orthodox muslims. In fact they feel free in Australia to live they like unlike in Iran now, same with my Afghan friends.
One of the reasons he had an opposite Idea ( NOT REBELLION ) to deva worship was that priest of the Dharma used to consume the HOMA seed during a 🔥 YAGNA 🔥 ceremony which was an intoxication of the body , and revelation to him by AHURA MAZDA ( AUM ) was to not harm the gift of GOD that is the human body made by the force of nature itself by consuming substance as the simple motto of Zorastrians is
HUMATA - GOOD THOUGHTS
HUKATA - GOOD WORDS
HUVARASHTRA - GOOD DEEDS
There may be many others for the split up we may never know as a lot can be DILUTED over time
Karma hit back... kind of... Zoroastrians rebelled against their parent culture, and now it is said if they do not increase their numbers then, once their number falls below 24k people, they will be reduced to a “tribe” in terms of legal status (right now their legal status is “community” like all religions)
Right now, their population is 40k.
They stopped reproducing and marrying because they wanted to contribute in India’s population control. So that’s kind of a noble thought.
Prophet Zoroastr was killed by turyas tribe of old religion ,tur or turyas was turvasha people rigveda
Seriously they are so naive .
@@greaterbharat4175 dont ascribe the word prophet to this vedic religion. It is abrahamic term
@@greaterbharat4175 he wasnt dont lie
@@anantambisht4895 you didn't tag anyone, so don't get who you were calling naive. Can you specify?
A few ancient historians said Persians and Medes were, in fact, Scythians. This can be backed up by the fact the later Alans, themselves descendants of Scythians, called themselves As, Os, and Aesir.. all of these being different ways of saying Asura. The Alans migrated West with Germanic tribes and are likely the reason why all Germanic tribes called their gods Ass, Os or Aesir. This can be seen in many place names (like the Osburg ship burial in which one of the ladies buried insides dna came back as Iranian) all over Scandinavia and England and even names like Oswald, Osborne, etc.
Even if Devatas do Adharm,
And Asuras do Dharma, Hindus will praise Dharma and for that Even Asuras will be supported. Name change doesn't make difference, only some communication gap will be occuring.
Dr. Chavda, we love to hear from you. It is quite eye opening and enlightening at the same time. However, you should also quote sources, so that all the great knowledge you are passing on becomes more authentic. As a scientist you most certainly know of this fact. 🙏
#AskAbhijit can you shed some light whether there was any cultural similarity between the jews and the Hindus in the past.. The story of mathsya avatar of Lord vishnu and Noah's arc are very similar to each other?
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Bible is a copied text , I have read it , it is more like a political propaganda, You will find many discriminatory and things which is against humanity in Bibble
@sourav thanks for information
@@AdityaRaj-xo9tg bible and both quran are discriminatory texts
@@AdityaRaj-xo9tg they are plagiarized
Sir kya aap hindi version bhi bana sakte he mujhe English samajh nahi aati 🙏
Congratulations 🎉
This is a unique video-as far as I know-which has evoked most positive comments from the viewers.
Fun fact; Freddie Mercury's parents were Indian Parsees
True. His birth name was Farroukh Bomi Bulsara. Also persis Khambata was parsee and Erick Avari is parsee
He went to school in Mumbai
Zarathustra claimed that deva are evil. Is "Devil" the corrupted version of what we call "Deva" or "Deviya"? And is Devine also an incorrect pronunciation of "Deviya"?
What about Hindus claim? Vaasudev😂
During times of paigambar Zarthustra a lot of dark practices were being carried out. Not the satvik practices but mainly kala jaadu. His message was to worship only one pious God (embodiment of Truth). It had nothing against Hinduism but in that time the abolishment of such cruel acts (strayed from the original sanatan way of life) was needed. We still strongly believe in karma and cycle of life. And being religious means nothing if you are not a good human being.
Zardasht is a Kurdish prophet of the Medes-Kurdish Empire❤☀️💚
This idea that Zoroastrianism is monotheist/revelatory is a colonial Indological fantasy - it traces to the instance in the Bible where "Daniel" secures the obeisance of the Persian King to the monotheist "God". That is typical colonial monotheist history falsification (foreshadowing / predestination / "prophecy") and divide and rule tactics. Asura is, in fact, a name for Vedic Deities in the Veda - it is not used often but important nonetheless. Plus,there is no basis for stating that there was religious conflict between Zoroastrianism and Vedics. It was just fighting between kingdoms as we usually see. It's common to see alternate heroes taken up in Hinduism. There are, for example, temples to Duryodhana and Ravana. Even entire lexicons can be interchanged: Vaishnavas refer to Lord Vishnu as Supreme while Shaivas refer to Lord Shiva as Supreme. Each has their Sahasranama, many of which overlap. Lord Shiva is shown at the feet of Kali. All these "conflicts" are usually taken in the vein of Lila. Same applied to "Zoroastrianism". Hinduism is deep enough and varied enough and ancient enough that this is to be expected and entirely normal.
By default, we should always expect colonial mischief-making and projection in these situations
I agree all these separate religion can be easily categorised under an common umbrella Hinduism.
Exact
Even zangues) changes Khan Mangolian was fire worshiper.
I wish Iran to be Secular Again.
I think, this has more to do with Indra-Vritra conflict, Vritra's defeat and murder by Indra. Also, the gradual fading of ancient Vedic deity Varuna to backstage has something to do with rise of this new religion. Also , what happened to Raja Bali? Was he expelled after Vaman Dev divested him of all his possessions and where did he go? Also, it has something to do with Shukracharya (Ushna Kavi) who was Guru of Asuras. As far as Asur word is concerned, it means possessor of Asu (power). So Asur can also be used for Devatas and it has been used in RV.
#AskAbhijit where do you see India in economy and military in 2047?
in gutter
Can you please answer my questions
Humans began to move from Africa to other contents. The first place they settle was Middle East and after they moved further east which is India and China and…
If the first settlement was Middle East, and first civilization began in modern day Iran/Iraq, also first monotheistic religion began in Iran. How are the Persians the same as hindus that were kicked out of India and created a rebellion religion against Hinduism? How come is not the opposite view? The hindus were Persians and they created a relegion against Zoroastrianism.
@NIT K , Suratkal Incorrect both were in the same time period between 1000-1500 bce
@@multiverse2533 this history of indo- Iranians ancent civilised branch of indo Europeans indo -iranian starting call them self to aryas because they are invented farming first time world and begain society system and gaind nobelity
Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Judaism are the oldest cultures in the world.
All ancient, rituals can be bracketed as Hinduism as in Nabatean-paganism, Greek, Roman paganism and even Scandinavian Norse paganism all have correlations with Vedic Hinduism. However, there are shamanic societies of Central Asia, North and South America, Africa and southern India which are non-vedic-Hinduism.
"Bro history" at its finest.
Am sorry to say sir but you don't know the first thing about ancient Persians. Just to take a word 'deev' and spin narratives around it doesn't seem fair. There are more similarities between Zoroastrians and Hindus than differences. Both are sister communities and an example of one the best and most successful collaborations in history.
@@sanaksanandan Anyone can 'talk' but this is completely baseless. What proof is he presenting here?
@@LoverBoy-dg5jb caste system? Hindusim dont have caste system
@@LoverBoy-dg5jb mulla spotted
Sir can you tell us a bit about the origin of bhumihars and kayasthas...thanks🙏#Askabhijit
Do you mean Purus ? I tried to research a little and there was no parshva king in the 10 king battle, though there were Purus who were actually exiled towards present day Iran.
#Askabhijit - mine question is that whether the Hinduism and Sikhism belongs to same community years ago or not.???
Is Sikhism is originated from Hinduism or not??
Pls make a video on that's
Sikhism came from Mars bro. The pagdi dropped from the sky some day and fell on a random punjabi.
was it an act of rebellion? Or is it that the Parshvas always worshipped Vishnu and the vedic tribes worshipped Indra? And by extension what it meant was that they continued the same worship. Zarathurstra's main innovation wasn't inversion of Hinduism (asuras vs Daivas) but that he made their faith essentially mono-theist by elevating Vishnu to the role of primary god.
Read the Parsian names of all Parsian kings like Xerexas and Darius and Cambyses. They're all Hindu Indian names.
Sanatan Dharma is THE scientifically evolved and a true religion for mankind.
Bharat is the cradle of human civilization and it's a fact that the different tribes were continuously at war with each other (it is in length written like Devasur sangram and various other wars) and the tribe that lost were kicked out of the mainland and they had to explore newer land/avenues to settle themselves.
This is how in prehistoric times the Indian tribes spread in most of the land and one finds Hindu culture and values in every continent.
Name similar to zarasand
#AskAbhijit
Can you please tell us that why Hinduism got replaced by Abrahamic or monotheistic religions like Zoroastrianism?
Sorry for not writing in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Pakistan. I had really forgotten it.
Hinduism never got replaced 🤣🤣🤣
This question is funny.
Parshiyan people are today at their native home rescued by Hindus
You meant to say how some hindu rejected their culture and became monotheistic like Zoroastrians? Well it's call cult all the people were monotheistic their god have origin in polytheistic culture but they picked one of diety maded him / her as divine creater
Hey @Ardeshir you are a parsi as well I guess, seems from your name why don't you research or ask around your elders ,scholars and magis for earlier sources and texts and share it with abhijit ji and all of us would be interesting to know our shared ancestry and heritage
@@koaslful nope it's a fake name
#AskAbhijit What's the history of surname "ROY/RAY"
Bengali accent
Also surname pilot
same with Rout/Raut
It's not entirely correct to call their religion "Hinduism" at that early point, unless you mean "any polytheistic priestly Indian religion." "Vedic Religion" eventually became part of Hinduism, but only through exposure to Dravidian elements and the philosophical revolutions of the 7th-4th Centuries BCE. And obviously there was no monolithic political entity called India at that time.
I'm a Zoroastrian @abhijit can you please state the source of your reasoning/information?
@@LoverBoy-dg5jb He emits that he needs unquestionable evidence to prove it, in his videos on proving Aryan Migration Theory false, take a look at his videos from Sangam Talks disproving it.
Well real thing is there is not much evidence of that time so people have their theories based on existing facts but none is accepted as exact truth but aryan migration is not true for sure
@@LoverBoy-dg5jb there in no evidence for your claim either
i have all evidence of it
Isn't it possible that Ahura Mazda was a way of saying Asura Marda (which means destroyer of Asuras)? Maybe it was not an inversion if that was the case
#askabhijit Mughal empire is never ruled whole india except few states but why indian school history books considered them as ruler of india ?
Idk. For i know mughals never set foot on uttrakhand , himachal north east , and south india.
@@anantambisht4895 gujarat also
The enlargement and propagation is in response and reaction is possibly due to a major climatic event. This would explain the lack of detailing and narration for this to occur.
so as now i am understand we are just like old times: dev vs asur where asur win to humans, then shivaji come as duth of good who destroyed them and now we are in a society where human and asur live together an like other rigvedic story we are going to revive and asur will lost
note: all my perspective
Yes
Asuras were not Fictional, They were the Assyrians of history.The Babylonians were probablt the Devas. History is full of tales of conflict between Babylonians and Assyrians.
The deity is back