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- The Moscow Police Department gives an update on the investigation into the murders of four University of Idaho students. Full news conference on 11/23/22.
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The best question was from the guy asking the law enforcement how are they. This entire incident is very tragic and the law enforcement deserve so much appreciation and thank you from the public especially the people in Idaho for keeping them safe.
People tend to forget police are humans and cases like this hit them very hard. They see and hear things that would make our stomach turn.
@@Sbamabelle exactly, what pains me is when people say well “that’s their job”. Of course it’s their job, but it’s not fun and it’s traumatizing for them to see and experience then update us ahh
The sad thing is this happens every day in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, St Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, all run by Democrats for decades
It’s so sad. The police, first responders and even the roomies are heavily burdened by what they saw and the public have only judgment and criticism for them.
@@faxoxo2306 it is their job though they signed up for it knowing things like this would be part of it
MPD and LCSO are incredibly corrupt and incompetent
Very disturbing how a crime of this magnitude has no suspects yet.
I think if they don’t have a suspect now they may not find whoever did it. Someone planned this out and left after.
@@Sara-et4et yeah. Someone was interested in one or all of the girls.
What? The bigger the crime, the bigger investigation.. jeez give them time to process all the evidence and information they've spent a days collecting! It's a big house and multiple victims.
@@TheVAULTofHORROR it’s been over a week. You’re kidding, right?
@@sconni666 nope. Give it time, ya nut.
Dear Lord you know who did this, please let them be caught so no one else is hurt.
God gives free will if you knew anything about the Bible you wouldn’t open your mouth with bullshit
@@andrewcurtis6105 Very logical.
@@andrewcurtis6105 you aren’t privy to God’s “plan” or “intent” but surely you’re not suggesting that this crime was of His doing. Those who don’t believe in the power of prayer and God’s mercy and only those sadly ignorant with no faith would ever “blame” such horrendous events on God. I feel sorry for you and your tiny, shriveled mind. If you never had or never regain your faith, then walk on the side of evil, which is the real origin of this crime. Because evil always delights in those who believe in it. I can imagine your disappointment in life and the anger you must be feeling. We all are. But I hope you have a change of heart because this is not something most any of us can deal with. You are not alone in your anger and frustration but aim that energy to where it comes from. And not towards God.
@@MaureenKo1 reading such arrogant and condescending crap will surely convince anyone to choose faith.
Thanks.
Okay son
This entire thing seems sooo wildly suspicious.
I don't understand how 4 people can be stabbed to death, and other members of the home do not hear the screaming bloody murder.
Plus, how does not a single area have cameras. Wild.
I wish stalkers would be taken more seriously by all parties.
Thank you to the police for working so hard on this.
I was thinking about this, if the murderer put a pillow over the victim's face, it could be difficult to hear them - maybe music was on? the other 2 housemate said they heard "something" but didn't look into it and locked their doors? I was strangled in my home by a stranger who broke in to and was hiding in my apartment years ago - the TV was on - I was trying to scream Help Me and was kicking the floor and my downstairs neighbors did not ...hear...or notice..or maybe thought I had a boyfriend over??? I was lucky another neighbor coming home from the bars, passed my door and called the police. I obviously survived - but when you are being attacked it's difficult to scream as loud as you might think you can..
Yes stalkers almost always turn into killers.
Also something I’ve been wondering, why did the 911 caller say “unconscious” when the corner said there was a lot of blood at the crime scene. Unless they might of been breathing still or the roommates were too afraid to check.
@@susanhartline7539 I’m so sorry you went through that, that makes total sense. Fighting off your life is pretty exhausting I’m sure. My mother was attacked in her home too and no one heard or saw anything 😢
It is possible no one heard anything. We have to consider the lay out in the house
Also they were sleeping imagine you are surprised stabbed awakened by that and much more frightening if you know the person then you are taken by fear by shock by pain necessarily you would not scream…
Now what I can’t understand is calling my crew before calling the cops if in fact I encounter my friends my room mates or room mate butchered in pools of blood.
But yah I’m with you.
I learned nothing new from this.
I am very glad I don't live there. How terrifying. Something similar happened in my community many years ago. I was terrified, the whole town was terrified. They did get the murderer pretty quickly, but the fear while he was at large was intense.
A missed opportunity by the police to respond about the pubic being vigilant. These people were asleep at home. They had been with other people and not on the street alone where they were killed. Being vigilant today means curtailing your use of social media of all kinds. Young people are so trusting of the internet and people on it. It is a highway for bad players of all kinds. People need to protect their privacy. Stop publishing where you are and where you live, work and go to class.
I dont think its trusting ....everything has the positive n negative
Its the IN thing to do ...the negatives come with it
It so happened in this case....
Even ur location is on ur fone ....snapcht etc....unless turned off
Sooo i think its the tech nowadays is advanced ....
We must use it to solve murders
Good point. Some of these people put their every move on social media seeking attention. Well guess what, the wrong people also end up paying attention. Mix that with not guarding your privacy at home either and you greatly increase your risk of becoming a victim of something.
@@shireenramnarain4005 it’s not only about your location in your apps, it’s about the posting as well. Constant posting where you are, what you’re wearing and it’s often not much, who you’re with, the layout of your home and every little detail that can help a predator find you and get access to you. Very dangerous and these girls especially do it daily like it’s harmless.
@@rockstarofredondo yes very true
It could even be close families ,not unknown people, they become sooo jealous of u cos u having a goood time ...partying ,education, friends ,holidays ....name it ,they will check everything u doing n posting ...
I think people r sooo fake nowadays....
And when I think of vigilance, I think he may be speaking of, doors locked, maybe have a alarm system, the dogs should be near door entrances, watching your surroundings, prayer, and he may also mean have a weapon of your own to quickly fight back. Have cameras, and definitely stop trusting strangers, being careful about being too friendly to the word. What you don't know can hurt. People focus too much on my kids are happy, they need wisdom
It was a serial killer! Period!
LISK?
@@pirateradio00 no
Kudos to the lady reporter that waited so long and appeared to be ignored for sometime, she had great questions.
I know I was rooting for her lol poor woman had her hand up the entire time.
I know! I was getting pissed off that they were ignoring her. They saw her damn hand...
she was incredibly rude and obnoxious and needed to wait her turn instead of shoving her hand in their face.
So someone can’t tell if a person is unconscious, violently stabbed to death…
I don't get that either. People are speculating that the doors were locked (but I never heard the police say that), but then why did the roommate say they were unconscious. How did she even know they were in there if the door was locked? Why didn't she just think they were still sleeping, why say unconscious? Did the person she called for help break the door down? If there was no locked door there is no way she wouldn't have seen all the blood. I am surprised it wouldn't be running out under the door.
@@dracojackson1535 I asked the same thing and someone explained that the “unconscious” part was just more of the police language- not necessarily the actual words used by the 911 caller, because the victims weren’t breathing but they don’t declare deceased until police and ME can confirm it.
@@AmandaE33 Okay, thanks.
@@dracojackson1535 Also, the doors couldn't have been locked, since there was nobody alive in the room to lock it once the killer left.
I think what keeps people so gripped to this tragedy is in a way it feels like it stole all our own breath away. I feel like once there’s a solid case to be presented and there are conclusions released people who are following this case will begin to breathe easier again
Ppl are gripped because there is no suspect in custody. Because of that, it lets our imagination run wild and we are intrigued by mystery... Could it be a local, could it be a school faculty member??? That is what keeps ppls attention.
Like in the middle of a real life game of Clue and everytime you guess something someone else has that card. What three cards are in that envelope?
Huh I don't feel that way. This has happened before in several serial killer cases. This is not the 1st time this has happened at all. Ppl sure didn't rip the Police and demand those cases be solved in a day back when they happened though. Ppl allowed the Police to do the investigating and the cases were solved. This ferver acting like this has never happened before is not helping this case be solved any faster.
@@c-mobucks4930 It's been a week! This expectation that they have somebody in jail for something like this already is absolutely ridiculous and these ppl need to listen to what the ISP Captain said about everyrhing this involves. All of the evidence has to be tested in labs etc. Science does not happen in an hour! Ppl need to back off and let these ppl work this case, and certain ppl need to stop interferring.
@@Liberty6010and9 We know how long it's been. This is 2022 and other mass killings this year like the Colorado one or the Virginia students recently, we knew who the suspect was the day after the incident so the curiosity factor dropped significantly and we moved on to the next inevitable tragedy. In this situation we're still hooked because it is open ended.
God bless the families and friends and especially the investigators who are working meticulously through this horrific crime. May He guide them to finding the answers all of us are seeking in the name of the unfortunate victims. This is such a very tragic, awful time for Idahoans.
I heard one of the victims' parents say that if anyone in this direct area has internet, the killer/killers phones could be picked up on the neighbors' routers. If this is the case, is this being looked into? Prayers for everyone involved.
If the killer was clever enough to do it in such a horrific way but managed to escape, I don't believe he/she wouldn't carry a phone 🙄
Maybe he turned his phone off.
You also wouldn't need wifi. Your spy device pings every 90 seconds so the govt can track you at all times.
@@devra5186 or just turn it off
Disappointing.... it sounds like they don't know anything, and still refuse to answer any questions. I wonder why they kept on ignoring the lady in the front for so long, they clearly looked at her.
The lady in the front row was incredibly rude and obnoxious and I am glad they delayed responding to her unprofessional behavior.
@@phatbtmgurl3913 Literally everyone in that room of reporters was putting their hands up if you watched other versions of this, she was no different than the others. She also had one of the best questions. The police chief has messed this case up since day one, and it's obvious he doesn't want to answer any questions that are intelligent and thought out.
@@reneel3043 I agree with her, best questions…especially the part of have they considered the murderer maybe a female. My theory. A jealous hateful rage toward a sorority type.
The killer is probably watching the media. Maybe you have a message for him/her. Tell them to turn themselves in. I know it sounds crazy,but this person may be so unstable and wants to come forward.
that's a good idea. worth a try at least.
That's what I've being saying I would definitely think so maybe this why they ain't saying much then they have.
lol
The police should go back and talk to the people who’s dog was skinned. They should find out every detail about it. How far is it from the student’s house. They always say serial killers start with torturing and killing animals. Whether related or not, there is at least one or more, total psychopaths in Moscow.
If not mistaken doggie (Buddy) was found about 3 miles? Away from his house and one mile from those kids’ place. Something along those lines I’ll see if I can find that link
I hope the two roommates who were not injured will never go back to that house. Too bad the house had no cameras.
I’m sure they haven’t been back.
The killers sometimes return to things like Candlelight Vigils, hopefully the FBI and undercover agents will be THERE WATCHING THE CROWD. This is so HORRIFIC I hope they catch him soon...
They already have behavioral analyst special agents in the area, probably for that exact reason.
This monster blends in and has been walking amongst them all for more than a week now. The police need to recognise that the killer may not have any visible injuries to to his hands, since on line access to the more elaborate style blades (sword-like handle bars) makes it all to easy for the killer to be confidently showing his hands in public! Man' is disturbed.
Oh they definitely will be. Hopefully he goes so he can be caught
@@reeva5735 I agree I think he is blending in with the students
Gut feeling::::
Recheck all the students that lived in the same building and _their_ closest friends or the ones that visited the most . Recheck every student in every _close_ _building_ around the murdered students building.
Recheck food truck owner and this employees that worked there. They've hopefully found and checked the guy that hugged one of the girls that late morning...
1 a.m. in front of the food truck standing with the overweight guy that put his arm out to _seperate_ the guy that was hugging the girl and picked her up while hugging her...that was a little odd , him kidding around but trying to separate the hug.
No cameras in the entire neighborhood?
Jesus, butter, football, diabetes, and Trump. What else do you need in life?
@@joelwillis2043blaming trump yet a lgbtq club in Colorado just got shot up? Have some respect. This is an issue of gun violence not trump bad land
Yeah, I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't been reading about this until just now and I heard there was NO cameras ANYWHERE and I was flabbergasted that NO ONE had that in this day and age of Rings and other security cameras and devices?????
@@chillsmusic8982 I think he’s just trying to sum up Idaho
I find that hard to believe.
If anyone that lives in the area has ring or security please submit your footage for that night. Please don't wait it can be as simple as a guy riding his bike or a car driving fast away. It doesn't hurt to just give it.
This was a targeted and relatively well planned attack…
I will agree with speculation that the killer is unlikely a student, but is someone around the victims age range; early to mid 20s. It’s an individual everyone in that house had either met or at the very least seen before in passing..
Mass stabbings such as this are uncommon for many reasons. They definitely walked away from the scene covered in evidence, certainly with some sort of visible injuries. Which may indicate they're single, don’t have particularly close ties with anyone in the community and/or has a job which doesn’t require a lot of direct interaction with others. There’s a possibility they are not originally from this town, but they've been a resident there long enough to be familiar with the area. Maybe even a delivery driver of some kind? (Or any job that requires driving to throughout the day..)
The most telling evidence, the multiple stab wounds and defensive wounds found on the victims. Showing a lack of mercy, built up rage, and resentment towards the victims. I’d say the biggest emotion the killer is feeling right now is an adrenaline based high fueled by a false sense of superiority over law enforcement and mocking the community. But that’ll turn into fear/paranoia imminently, if it hasn’t set in already. If the killer has not physically returned to the crime already, they’re glued to all updates as they come in.
This is a young, delusional individual..The more days go by without them feeling acknowledged increases the likelihood of them doing something rash to make themselves known.
Important questions to ask right now: “Who do we trust even though we don’t know them?”, “Who passes through unnoticed wherever they go?”
This may be the best summary I have read so far.
Agreed, also he probably stalked or fixated one or two of them
Maybe another student?
correct. they need to look at the people they had contact with no matter how small or insignificant. its one person. white young male could not be like them filled with rage. he took their joy from them because he could not get it for himself.
I would dare to say that Slasher is some one very close to victims and family this person is loved and revered by the community this person might have acted along but I thing is a pawn from some one else meaning some one else saw this faulted spirit and instigated slowly but surly this Zero this coward allowed his his delusions to manifest. This coward will get cough will pay for this massacre and the butchering of that little dog/rabbit. Slasher decided to cross that line of no return yonder! Beyond the pale!
Be aware too of any persons loitering around the crime scene…
Just a thought ... Hear me out.
I'd look into who Kaylee was dating on her break from her ex bf ... i believe she was the one targeted ... NOT a planned target tho.
Say the group gets home at 1:45 am, they are eating and bs'ing, and it's a party house right ? Well people will randomly stop by at night. Kaylee is back in town and the person she was dating hears that she is back in town and shows up.
If she dated this person a few times, and the group KNOWS HIM, and is familiar with him, they just let him come in like plenty of times before.
He could even be talking with her as all the others go to bed. Alot of people you can become at ease with in a year of college partying and dating, w/o really knowing them.
She tells him she's getting back with ex bf, he rage snaps, he kills her, now he has to kill Maddie, Ethan and Xana because they already know he was there in the house.
He's already in the house so no forced entry, the dog knows him so thats not a problem, i assume they were all drinking so probably all crashed pretty fast ... the two sleeping down stairs never actually see him so he just splits out the sliding doors without having to deal with them. Even with the possibility of noises, there has been people over partying before so the 2 survivors couldve just figured people came over ...
i bet they probably know him too.
Also, It's hunting season in alot of States, lots of hunting knives out there
Just a theory.
Jack was already in the home, hiding under the bed , he left his phone home so it wouldn’t be traced or ping there
@@queencleo8308 he wouldn't need to hide ... he would just go over there
Pretty good theory!
Your theory makes a lot of sense.
They were drunks and whores.. and allowed there lives to be open landing strip for Satan to sift them.. you say hear me out.. have you not read and heard what God said???? Listen the fact is there burning in hell . They died in there sins and it's known they were drunk that night and where habitual having sex out of marriage " FORNICATION" the answer to you is are you on the naughty list here? Are you asleep and think God is not mocked? Not religion or money in a chicken bucket when passed around or church attendance.. are you saved and living holy ? Are you ready to meet your maker? Has this case made you examine yourself to Jesus Christ or are you asleep like this town that promotes SIN, SIN SIN.. YOU NEED TO REPENT QUICKLY SIR..
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
It’s a neighbor & he’s probably watching this whole investigation. He might insert himself in it. He’s not in their circle but he wants to be, but he’s done it before. Or dreamed of doing it. He didn’t know the other roommates were there. Crazy
totally!!!
Could very well be
This is exactly what I think too
This sounds like we have a serial killer on our hands, methodically killed 4 people and didnt leave a trace not good
Yep and another town near by had a similar unsolved murder not too long ago.
@@EmmaDee I haven’t heard that mentioned yet have you?
Not true they said the killer was sloppy
What town?
@@NoticeMeSenpaiii across the border in Oregon. I don’t know the name.
No way this was the killers first murders. People like that don't start out by stabbing 4 people to death. He's likely killed before or committed other violent crimes.
Have you read about the 4 college students in Canada that were stabbed to death? It was years ago but they had an end of school party at someone's home. Someone that was invited stabbed all of them because of a total eclipse. He thought they were werewolves. He had a psychotic break. Really far out. I went on line to read about it. It was this guys first time. Never had trouble before with the law. Not even a parking ticket. Kicker was he was the Sheriff's son.
Matthew de Grood "clearly was psychotic" and suffered from schizophrenia. He heard a demonic voice he believed to be the sun god saying "kill them all before they kill you." I don't think this killer is schizophrenic just a psychopath.
@@dracojackson1535 Probably not
Man some of these reporters need to find other jobs they are not in the correct field
Some of them also need to take some herbal mood pills from the health food store. Rude people.
Pretty disgusting that people make things up like them being tied up just for clicks and views. Making up things like that hurt cases like this, and that is EXACTLY why they are being so tight lipped in the Delphi case. People truly are unbelievable. Not all care about Justice and safety. This is just entertainment for them. Sick.
Thanks for the info
The police dept is well meaning but too small and probably lack the experience for a crime like this. It's time to pass this case up to the State/FBI level before it becomes another 'Delphi'.
I agree. They need more help asap.
I agree. They are in way over their heads. Reminds me of the Jon Benet case in Bolder. Police botched that one royally.
They listed tons of other people that are there helping them including the FBI.
There are about 150 investigators working on this. You sure that's not quite enough? They have the State Police and FBI there helping them. What more can they do??
Sounds like they have nothing. Absolutely nothing. No yellow tape until yesterday?! Crime scene has been contaminated and unpreserved for days/weeks. They should’ve called the FBI from day 1. ie: small town LE investigating the Quinton Simon case called in the FBI day 1. This entire situation is tragic. Who tf is gonna want to attend that college now?! I hope they catch the murderer or a whole community might be impacted economically
Following from Kentucky, my deepest condolences to the families. Things like these should never happen to anyone.
Some of these people dont understand that the police have to keep alot of information classified in case the suspect is watching the news. The classification of the info could even lead to more murders or attempted murders.
Hopefully, this incident will be solved quickly. The crime is horrific and horrible.
Hope the evil monster who is responsible for evil act is caught so we can bring some closure
Miss Stella, this reminds me of the student murders that happened at UF, Gainesville, FLorida, years ago.
Danny Rollins also was a stalker, and killed with a knife. I, too, had a stalker some years later, when I moved back to an a town very close to the University. Fortunately, for me, most of the deputies I called were serious and very helpful. It took nearly a year, but they caught him. At first-ever I did not take this seriously, but eventually, as it continued, I becamenvery frightened. My little dog would wake me every time, and I would call the Sheriff. They did catch him, but it took awhile. I was lucky, I know that. I moved to another city anyway. Now I live in a totally different state. Also, In response to another post on here, both men (Danny Rollins and the man who stalked me)--I was 50, not a young women! So bizarre, but they were both Caucasian men. The man who stalked me, was from a rich family in New England--it was said that his family sent him money to keep him away. Danny Rollins, the Gainesvile murderer, was, I think, from the South. At any rate, NEITHER, was from Mexico, or Venezuela!
They did not cross the border, as they were both born and bred in the USA! I was shocked by such an attitude I read in these comments. I do suggest though: Women--or Men, if you believe you are being stalked or followed, please do not hesitate. Contact the police. Sure, a very few were rude, (I was 50!) but because of what Danny Rollins had done, they mostly took me very seriously. I also had a little dog who alerted me EVERY time he was in my yard (I had fences, gates! He climbed over them. Very athletic). A dog is good for a single woman. My little Maggie was my protector until she died at 19. Don't forget: a stalker--and a murderous one, may be home grown. Mine was. Glad I contacted the authorities, happy I had a dog. I might not be typing this.
So sorry for these families. Glad you had a a good dog and stayed safe. A good dog is one of the best alarm systems. Please everyone stay caution of your surroundings.
@@samantham4351 Good, Samantha. I moved to my mother's house in a other town. Eventually, I left the entire state. The last time I saw him (they couldn't keep him forever. They were supposed to tell me when he got out. They didn't) was at a fair or a town celebration or something. He saw me and made his hand into a gun, laughing, while pointed his hand to me as if he were shooting me. I am far away now. Good luck and be vigilant.
Yes!
@@kathybates1751 yes!
@@kathybates1751 Thank you for reading. I would love it if I never again had to hear about a woman being stalked or murdered. I know a that a young man was killed in Moscow, but I don't think he was actually the prey, just as one man was murdered at UF. In both cases, the murderers were going after women. The men happened to be there. Maybe I'm wrong, I admit, I don't know everything.
Check who sold her the car and if it was transferred or still in the owner name. Was it fully paid for.Targeted means a hit
So what if was a love triangle that went bad ? Both girls called the dude ? That doesn't mean he was the culprit BUT we ve all seen relationships go south for various reasons . I live in a college town where breakups have caused suicide by many involved. I am convinced that this was a crime of passion by a person that knew the house and individuals. The dude and his gf were collateral damage .
Definitely gonna be somebody they know or somebody that's been over their partying friend of a friend.
If not going out alone and staying in groups, and letting people know where you’re at, we’re all it took to be safe, these four young adults would still be with us. Let’s say locking your doors, closing your curtains so others can’t spy on you, owning a gun,Those might have kept them alive.
OMG, they were in their own home likely all sleeping. Who said their doors weren't locked and their curtains weren't closed? Maybe they all had guns. Stop with the pointing fingers and victim blaming FFS.
They lived a lifestyle filled with strangers and being drunk constantly.. they also posted seductive pictures constantly and lead lives with fornication.. now tell me is locking your door, going in groups or telling someone where you are going to be effective in these situations? People need to wake up and see that they lived in sin and didn't obey God.. God is no respector of person, he CALLS ALL men everywhere to repent.. why? Because his ways are best and true.. when people say they are cute and had there lives ahead of them, there just doing what college students do.. NO THEY ARE IN DANGER, THEY DIED IN THERE SINS AND ARE NOT IN HEAVEN.. THIS IS SERIOUS.. GOD IS SERIOUS.. AND WONT BE MOCKED.. LOOK IT UP..1 OUT OF 3 COLLEGE STUDENTS HAS AN STD.. NOT A PHD.. YOU WANT THESE GIRLS TO OWN A GUN.. ??? GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE.. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.. IN THERE STATE OF MINDS ON A CONSTANT BASIS, THEY WOULD SHOOT THE WRONG PERSON OUT OF THERE DRUGS AND DRINKING.. OUT OF THERE EMOTIONAL IGNORANCE, 1 GIRLS MOM SAID SHE ALWAYS CALLS PEOPLE MULTIPLE TIMES IN A ROW, SHE IS DEMANDING AND CALLED HER A BRAT.. PLEASE WAKE UP.. THESE PARENTS ARE BAD BABYSITTER'S.. THEY PAY A LARGE SUM TO PIMP THERE CHILDREN AND APPLAUD THERE SEDUCTION AND PARTIES.. THIS IS NORMAL AND HEALTHY? NO IT'S DEMONS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.. MY GOD IS ANGRY WITH THE WICKED EVERYDAY.. ARE YOU READY TO MEET HIM? ARE YOU READY TO ANSWER OR DO YOU THINK YOUR OK AS YOU THINK THESE PEOPLE WHERE GREAT AND AN ASSET TO THIS WORLD? EVERYONE ALWAYS SAYS WILL KEEP THEM IN OUR PRAYERS?? WHO ARE YOU PRAYING TO SINNERS? WHY DONT YOU INSTRUCT THE COMMUNITY TO REPENT WHILE THERE'S STILL TIME? FOOLISH COWARDS THAT ARE PLAYING GAMES WITH THE LIVING CHRIST.. WOE TO YOU.. NONE OF THEM MADE IT TO HEAVEN AND THAT SHOULD CONCERN YOU.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@@WildnUnruly Yeah, her last sentence literally ends with "those might have kept them alive." It's horrible grammar but the victim blaming is clear. She can suck it.
@@WildnUnruly I agree. I cant refrain from commenting that if they were armed one of them could have perhaps stopped the killer from proceeding. Lesson here arm yourself and your loved ones it doesnt have to be a gun but some to stop an attacker. A dog to alert you is a great idea if they dont attack your dog before you
@@makeupchick9544 a journo asked that question to the cop. How can people stay safer? This isn’t victim-blaming he’s answering a question that was asked.😂😂
The person who made the 911 call on roommates phone baffles me. Why not use their own cell phone?? And, I was wondering if the basement has its own kitchen and bathroom with shower??
Tyler palmer, we are crying with you, that was so very touching. It was so nice to hear that something ANYTHING big or small helps you all right now because its so important to those of us farther away to help in any way possible. We are shattered for these beautiful souls and their families. Stay united University of Idaho and everyone involved in seeking justice for this heinous crime, stay connected, leaning on eachother will be your biggest strength right now, stay vigilant and lastly but most importantly stay ALERT. ❤️❤️❤️
Can we just remember that people on police forces of most kinds DO NOT make a huge salary. They are serving the public. 👏🏻🖤💙
the FBI is on it now they should be getting on it. and to it. get the profilers in on it too. this small town sheriffs dept. is not equipped for this. but a go getter seasoned detective FBI agent should be able to get this going.
@@tribaldiana1470 the BAU is already there along with 22 FBI agents on scene and 20 more assisting in other states. Dozens of LEOs from 4 agencies in Idaho are also assisting since day 1. This “small town inept police dept” is doing everything right so far.
Yeah the public is who pays them
Love the question about the time passing
Was this really necessary
I appreciate all the hard work the police have done---however these updates could just be a recording of the previous updates.
So what does that tell you? Give them time to process the evidence and information that took them a week to collect and stop spreading misinformation and making them give updates just to clear stuff up. Clearly they are still working on it.
People in that community are probably very scared.
@@BeachButterfly22 they are informing Moscow of how many resources are being thrown at this, and it’s a lot. You could just say thank you.
So strange the press is asking these kinds of leading questions.
Those two other roommates need to be interrogated… something is not right.
My thoughts as well. How did the police so quickly “rule out” the two people who were in the house when the murder occurred? I haven’t seen an alibi or any evidence showing how it couldn’t be them.
They know who did it. They are acting dumb to the public to lull the suspect into a false sense of security while they get sufficient evidence. This is a high profile case, so the police are being very circumspect in their media relleases
I hope so. There's no way the assailant could walk away with so much blood on them. Also, the assailant definitely left some of their own DNA.
At some point I do agree.
How can there not be CCTV somewhere that shows the perpetrator . I do not know the community but surely in this day and age there would be plenty of CCTV the police have not really drilled down into this. Unless the murders took place by someone inside?
Too much talk at these conferences and not enough action. The first 48 hours are crucial in a murder investigation. Nothing new here.
I’m confused why someone would ask if it’s a murder-suicide when the murder weapon hasn’t been located…
The cops should spend more time investigating and less time doing press conferences🤨
I disagree. The families appreciate updates, and it is comforting to know that there are people who really care.
It's not one person. The cops ARE investigating, but they have a face doing the press conference. Did you really think everything stopped because, "Hey, I'm on TV!"
I went to WSU in Pullman WA (literally across the tracks; I would go to the Palouse Empire Mall in Moscow and walk there). The community is small. Small enough that we didn't even have a Pizza Hut, Dominos or a McD. We had Pizza Pipeline. That's how tiny the community is. I suspect the person will be found shortly.
@VibesAndChaos Disingenuous. If I club you, it's because you needed clubbing. You can care for the well being of another while taking into account the well being of others. Sometimes, it takes more; other times, it takes less. But, yes, comfort and care will catch criminals. If I focus on the victim and not the perpetrator.
@@urfaes6878 These cops said “there is no threat to the community” for the first 3 days after the bodies were discovered. Now they’re on T.V. every few hours🧐
Helter Skelter...the killers are making a statement. About what I have no idea. It stands to reason it was incels trying to punish beautiful girls who would never date them.
I think the ball was dropped when the surviving Witness call their friends over when they realize one of them was still alive and then call 911 and when the police officer got there it was people in the house
I wonder if the police think that the killer/s entered the house while all six of the women were out, hid somewhere, like the furnace room or a rarely used closet and waited for the victims to come home? I remember reading about the BTK Killer breaking into a potential victim's house and waiting for her to come home to kill her only she didn't come home that night and he got tired of waiting and left.
It's possible but Police said no sign of forced entry.
@@Jacen777 no every neighborhood locks their doors, hell, I don't and I live in a not great neighborhood but I have dogs.
@@ThePainkiller3666 Dogs are the best security system on the planet, short of a fully kitted, in-house tactical team.
@@Jacen777 Kaylee’s dog was in the house when the attack occurred.
@@Jacen777 most dogs are worthless as home protection. Even if they bark they aren't going to stop someone from attacking. There's not much anyone or anything can do about someone that really wants to come harm you, especially when unexpected
Crime prevention , is better than crime investigation, no security cameras, no college campus safety rules to follow, or inforcement of strict safety policies bý college authorities, no police checks, to safe guard lives
killer feeling pretty good right now id imagine, they have literally nothing
what is wrong with these press people, asking ridiculous questions that you are asking. Give all these police people a brake. Sit down and relisten to what they have said. Give them a break. Not all police are involved with every single bit. Shut down and give them a break
Oh, still nothing yet...
It takes a tremendous amount of strength to subdue four people and then stab them all to death. So there were either multiple offenders or these were cold calculated murders aligned to the killer’s developed or developing MO. Sick sick sick.
They were all asleep and had been out drinking as well.
@@jenleigh342 Some had defensive wounds. They didn’t specify which.
@@LaciASMR Xana's father said she did which would make sense if she was in the same room with Ethan. They would kill the guy first so she may have woke up while Ethan was being stabbed.
@@dracojackson1535 Oh, okay thanks for the info I will have to follow up on that. Yes definitely makes sense-take out the threat first.
Light is stronger than darkness
We'll be patient. Keep at it. We understand, your success is in our prayers.
Geez- with all those people investigating and such a horrible murder it seems like they could find the person
Luke 12:2-3 and Luke 8:17 teaches us that whatsoever is either said or done in secret will be revealed in the light.
I pray these Scriptures over these senseless murders whereby I decree and declare that by the word of the living God, these crimes shall be solved and the guilty shall be brought to justice, in the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Amen!🙏😢💔
What if I was someone watching them not been in the house before? cause they didn't realise that their was bedrooms in basement! So what if the killer was the one who was calling Jack?? Strange the girls called him that many times and he didn't answer was he really home ?
Does this campus have security driving around all the time to keep an eye on all the students they should have had
Sorry to say but “university students?” cannot differentiate between a deceased person and an unconscious person!! Next point: instead of calling 911 “University Students aka roommates” call friends? 😮 RIP Angels 😢
Please stop acting like finding a criminal is a 2 day thing..stop expecting them to tell you everything because by telling you, they’re telling a criminal where they’re at..
This has a Charles Manson feel… as in, it wasn’t done by 1 person. Multiple people did this. My heart goes out to the victims loved ones.
I was thinking this from the beginning! So sad..
Carrie, I commented on the page above you. I thought what you typed is true! I have believed that for the last week. I think the killers are transient "serial killers" living in that very rural area. This was not someone that committed their first murder!
It seems that is true. Super weird if one person could kill four people all at once but I guess it is possible if they were sleeping. But it seems they would have woken up very quickly although if they weren't armed maybe there was really nothing they could do.
@@mikejelinek1413 Are you sure this roving band of serial killers aren't vampires as well?
no it was one person. profile of killer. one male, white younger knew them to some degree. followed them knew the layout to some degree. hate and anger, its .personal.not random.
Thank you for your diligence.
At lease we're getting updates.
Tyler Palmer....I. cried with you during this....bless you. ❤
We're their doors locked after the killer exited the rooms?
Why not release the 911 call. Very odd
It must have details the police do not want to become public and risk jeopardizing their case. Not odd.
@@rockstarofredondo true although with the ability to censor they could release snippets
I pray 🙏🙏 that they find that Killer ASAP praying for the families and the community please stay safe Everyone
Your police department sucks! They have a presser and say they are giving new information. They haven’t said anything we haven’t known for days. It’s because they suck & are incompetent and botched this case. They will never find the killer. Feel so bad for the families!!! Then they say to the public stay in pairs, be vigilant and careful/ everything those kids did and were still murdered right in the middle of that town with no fear at all from an incompetent police force. A bunch of incompetent bums!
Family and friends of the victims: please don't be intimidated into thinking law enforcement ur only option. Have ur own press conference or town meetings and use "go fund me" monies to pay for gps processing and other forensics. . The more people, the more ideas.The Law said themselves how overworked and tired they are. No one is more consumed, driven or committed than y'all.Passion will always trump a paycheck . I realize ur prob being told to hang back and let them do their job. Doesnt mean u cant do ur own investigating. We r taught to be respectful of authority and listen but the reality is they r just people getting a paycheck.
Had similar situation and a friend told me what im telling you and when i took control back from strangers (law) i realized they put pants on just like me. They make mistakes, they don't think outside the box and when their day ends ur loved one is no longer in the forefront of thier mind.. My heart aches for y'all. Godspeed
I’m afraid the murderer might end his life, before they find him/her. I can beat my head, one of their roommates aren’t innocent.
seriously they need to have somebody from the fbi also speak along side these guys...im not sure the local police can manage this case very well
This is the VERY SAME investigative strategy that was used by Law Enforcement in Delphi, Indiana. Good luck LE you guys are NOT going to find shyt
I wonder if they are clearing the inner circle too quickly ... as well as nearby residents.
I hope that the local police really are taking full advantage of outside department help. There's just no way that a town like this can possibly investigate a crime like this properly they just don't have the experience....
Or resources. The fbi has dna testing that is rated some of the best in the world.
Targeted... gotta watch who you piss off. You never know.
It is the stalker his parents own a place that makes bread not far from one of their jobs that’s where he seen her
Drugs! My money is on the other roommates or friends know what happened. The police state the scene was bloody, yet the roommates had to call other friends to come over before calling 911 because they couldn't wake up their dead friend.
You’re dumb, the roommates only found out what happened when they called a friend over before even leaving their bedrooms
Isn't it weird no questions regarding drugs came up?
This is a historic case
Unfortunately it is man
Wow people really should go back to the beginong and listen to these news release and press conferences to compare then and now this has proven to me that the suspect that was arrested in connection to these crimes aka bryan kohberger really isnt the person or persons who did this thanks for this it was very infprmative
Poor police chief, you can see the stress reflected in his face😢
Best of luck to these officers because they really do not seem confident at this stage. It has been said that the killer will have injuries to his/her hands. But with all the tactical gear available on line nowadays, I mean a pair of tough leather gloves and a heavy duty knife with those handle bar type features (to prevent users hand from slipping onto the blade) and his/hands may be free from injury. No sexual assault took place. But WHY murder 4 specifically whilst leaving 2 others unharmed?? The killer made the decision to spare those 2 lives.. the monster is known to the house mates!! And no doubt is walking amongst the investigators and the media alike! I do hope they probe the owners and staff of the steak house where 1 of the victims worked,.. perhaps the killer does not have an infatuation with knives as opposed to just having the access to them!! A truly disturbed individual who will be feeling excited due to the lack of any real progress being made! These officers need more intelligence bringing in.
Maybe it is a creepy predator neighbor?
I feel that the Idaho Moscow police are inept to handle this case. They do not have the expertise to determine what evidence they have and who the suspect is/are. They need outside help and sooner the better.
22 FBI agents on scene, 20 FBI staff assisting out of state, the state police and 3-4 total agencies already involved with dozens of LEOs taking part since day one. At least 80 total persons, possibly over 100 working on this case already. Labs involved already as well. This “inept” police dept brought all of this help in and seem to be doing everything right so far...
@@rockstarofredondo the fbi got involved because MPD kept making mistakes and multiple times misspoke and backtracked they have all those ppl working on this and our community is still not safe there is a sick and twisted killer most likely in our community and nobody is safe right now here
@@rockstarofredondo I cannot verify the information you listed but I don't believe they are doing everything right, because this case is still unsolved with no leads. Either they had some missteps in the first 24 hours or they have missed many key evidence or there's internal bureaucratic politics. This looks like it's going to be a case of unsolved mystery.
Ethan was not a small guy. The killer did not know he was going to be there. The killers goal is to do it without being caught. You wouldn't take that chance with a guy of Ethan's size, who looks like he could put up a hell of a fight.
This department seems ill equipped to handle this investigation. The poor families with zero answers. Time for the FBI to take the lead.
Did you not listen to how many FBI and other resources are already on this?
One person comes in and kills four adults, with a military knife? That doesn't sound normal or plausible, unless this person was a highly trained assassin of some type or really knew who these people were in the house! This case makes absolutely no sense and the fact that The weapon of choice is a knife, are the families sure that this wasn't a targeted killing because of one of the family members like the parents of the children? IDK something just really weird for all these kids to be taken out with one knife!
Wouldn't you have locked your bedroom door from the inside going to bed.
Dear God, PLEASE help us find this person(s) and get them off the streets before he/, she does it again! This horrific crime was senseless and ruined those students/ their families lives, for what????
Rev Donna had a good reading. She said the killer works at a bread place or a place that sells bread close to where one of the girls work. He would try and talk to one of them while they sat on a bench outside her job. His parents own the place he works. She was spot on with jj and tylee before there bodies were found. Also if you find an apple it has his dna on it.
Someone mentioned that an ex who lives nearby has dyed his hair from Red to brown
He just at 4:31 the call was made FROM SURVIVING ROOMMATES PHONE. I thought previously they said a call was made from the victims phone??
No, the police never said that.
Notice the cops say person or persons, which is normal in the beginning. BUT if they keep using that phrase, like they did in Delphi, then it's likely multiple suspects.
The Enforcers are very puzzled and you should be questioning the FBI, if they are around they are actually obtaining evidence at this point and building the cases.