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BBB - Have you seen the statements made by Lucy's team? What do you think about Dewi changing his statements? - Do you think he should be facing perjury charges (to stop this from happening (so called experts giving flawed or just false evidence (because it fits their bias))
Isn't this a breach of the Data Protection Act? They appear to be saying "We hold information that you should have a licence but you haven't got one" Since this person doesn't need a licence, and has told them so, the information they are holding is wrong, and they know it is wrong. Isn't it illegal under the Data Protection Act to continue to store false data after being notified that it is false?
Well there's 23 million who still pay, 500K have canceled. Alarming for them, sure, but they're still rolling in it and splashing their cash about. More people need to cancel.
My mate is a postman, he's been doing it years. He said the amount of "red" letters he is posting nowadays is well up on previous years. The BBC are hemorrhaging subscribers it would seem.
One of our neighbours put up CCTV around his property. My feeling is that it also protects me! Before he turned it on, he put a note through all the neighbours that might be covered by the cameras, telling us when it was going live and where exactly the cameras were pointing. He asked for comments and explained how he would be happy to share the images if any of us had any problems. Job done. Everyone is happy and the cameras now protect most of the street!
I watched a video a few years back of a UA-camr who got so fed up with receiving these threatening letters from Capita and RAPP that he found the home address of the local Capita boss and went around to her home to return the letters and tell her company not to contact him in the future. Within hours of him returning home, she had made a false complaint regarding Harassment to Police, who immediately sent a van-load of cops around to his house to get his details and do their usual 'Door-Step Intimidation and Lies' in order to warn him off. When he stated his case, the threats rose to possible arrest and charges. Capita and RAPP are trash, but they are simply hired Lieutenants in the war that the BBC is raging with the citizens of the UK. The real enemy is the BBC, that haven of criminals and Government propagandists. The reputation of the BBC as 'the truth in journalism' died years ago along with their Auntie BEEB name. They are a Woke parasite and need to be torn apart and rebuilt.
@ Unfortunately they are the Governments mouthpiece. But true what you say and such aggressive behaviour to the public is a disgrace. At the moment I’ve not bothered opening any of there threatening letters, and left them in a pile. Did you see Lee Anderson ripping up one of his letters and his comments on UA-cam channel? Was interesting 🧐
I thought this was some nonsense..but just a quick Google shows 3 cases of Christians being arrested for claiming to be Christian by West-Midlands and Dorset..
Very true and the argument I always use,in no other industry are you obliged to pay for a service you may not use or even want to use,when you try and explain this system to foreigners,particularly Americans they are completely gobsmacked,it’s actually like Tesco demanding a shopping licence fee even if you only shop at Sainsbury’s,how it’s allowed beggars belief.
@@robertmansell3667 Even government departments like DVLA don't harrass non-drivers for not have license, registration and insurance documented. FFS if DVLA can be competent and do things right, then Crapita and BBC Licensing should be required to not deluge non-customers with constant threat-o-grams.
I've personally been on the receiving end of the TV Licencing harrassment campaign. I complained in writing via email to TV Licencing, explaining I don't need a licence and why, and that they were to stop harassing me. Their response was that they can do what they want, and will harass me as much as they want and there's nothing I can do about it. All this was in an email, which I sent to my MP as an escalation and asked for his help. I got assurance from my MP that it would stop, which after his intervention it did initially. I then received a cheque in the post for £50 from TV Licencing. No explaination, just an envelope with a cheque enclosed. This can only be compensation for their behaviour. It all started again 2 years later, and I simply forwarded straight to said MP who stopped it immediately. As you've called out, the wording in their letters is threatening.
How strange,I just received the exact same letter yesterday. I told them so many times I don't even have TV and don't watch BBC Iplayer and am happy for them to send someone to investigate.
The letter should read " If you watch live TV you are required by law to have a TV Licence. If you do not watch live TV then please ignore this letter" Oh dear, if only.
"Live" is an interesting term as sooner rather than later, TV schedules will start to go away and so nothing will be "live". I always thought live really only referred to things like sports games or things happening as they're broadcast. Watching soaps or bargain hunt isn't live.
Told them to come and view my property voluntarily and I’ll open the door, if it stops the threatening letters. Explained I had a projector and played games consoles. Less than 5 yrs later they added bbc iPlayer to games consoles and included recording devices, this was just at the end of the VHS and CD days.
I had an enforcement officer turn up at my door a few years ago, I don’t watch TV but had a broken one in the inglenook. He said he wanted to see it as he saw it through the window, so, I picked the TV up and gave it to the enforcement officer outside, he was quite shocked when I said he can keep it, he did not know what to do when I closed the door on him and said ‘ that saves me taking it to the dump. I have never heard from them again.
@barriewilliams. Serves ‘em right for being so feckless. I don’t know which of those three categories I despise most. I myself am a vulnerable, naive, unlicensed 74 year old.
I do not watch TV..I haven’t for years. I used to buy a license religiously until I stopped needing one at which point I rang TV licensing and informed them. Since then I have been sent these letters regularly and they get more and more threatening. Even though I know I’m ‘clean’, my tummy twists each time. I have CPTSD so anything stressful has a detrimental impact upon me. These people are bullies and need to be stopped!
Yes. I find TV Licensing extremely threatening even though I haven't owned a TV for over twenty years. I really hate having to let them know that I still don't own a TV every two years. It's as if they can't imagine that someone might actually not watch their boring programmes 😡
It doesn’t surprise me they spend more time on harassing people for money over the license fee, than they spend money vetting their staff for sexual misconduct . A freedom of information request would be interesting reading
Most of the people they prosecute are single women. Virtually none of those were caught watching TV. Almost all of them foolishly admitted to watching TV. There is no TV detector van or technology that can detect people watching TV. Though they can check records to see if you have watched live TV say on Sky.
Disciplinaries are always private and confidential. You definitely can't get that on freedom of information. At my place of work, we can post certain information on this. Asking for a freedom of information on somebody's post shouldn't be allowed, and I'm glad it's not 😂
The license fee is managed by the private company Capita. The exclusive contract awarded to Capita was negotiated by the previous conservative government. The BBC have no control over Capita whatsoever.
Yeah, that is their default stance, which on average is probably true, but also worth remembering that the are lowly paid employees of Capita where a chunk of their salary is commission based.
Unfortunately they have no right to your details. So create a temporary email address then email them with the number on the letter, state you do not require a tv license and also state "i am removing your right if access to this property". As you have already removed their right of access to your property then straight up it won't be just a normal tresspass. 👍
If there's one tiny positive thing, (noting how the comment can't spell the actual word) raises awareness of the way this platform continually stops us from calling a spade a spade when it has to be done.
I have not had a TV licence since the year 2007. I do not have a TV set capable of receiving digital signals and follow ALL the rules religiously. Yet I receive a monthly threatening letter to get me to purchase a licence! I have kept these letters unopened and marked them when received. This would be a right joke if not downright criminal for the harassment, alarm and distress they cause to unsuspecting people. I am amazed and flabbergasted how this has been allowed to continue unchallenged in the courts. These people are attempting to obtain money by menaces and threatening behaviour, from innocent people.
@@along4990I do not know at the moment. I was thinking of printing out return labels and posting them back all at once, but that would cause me work. However, I have shown the bunch of unopened letters to my neighbour and he has a habit of visiting and talking to other neighbours with a view to cancelling their own TV licenses.
@ Ive got around 40 now and when i get a day off work and im bored im gonna make a paper mache statue of jimmy saville and send it to em explaining where i got the paper from 😃👍
@@carlvaz as long as you dont address the letter from yourself. Thats what theyre waiting for, a signed response from you, then they have you. My Grandad keeps his in a folder and we laff at them every now and then
My dad died in January 2024. I'm still in the process of sorting out his estate. In the pile of letters that arrive to his house, there must be AT LEAST 6 from the tv licencing people. Obviously the licence was cancelled after his death... I find it perplexing how he's still getting letters; he's under investigation now apparently... what a terrible organisation if you ask me!
I am I currently in the process of sorting out my dad's estate. The amount of letters is absurd. Final final x 3 warning. Red letters, poorly worded letters etc.
My elderly mum forgot to change the TV licence into her name when my dad died. She continued to pay the annual fee, but it was some time before she requested a name change on the account. When she made the call, she was told very unsympathetically that what she had been doing was fraud and further action may be taken. It made her feel stressed, and no condolences were offered to her about my dad's passing. We sorted it eventually, but for a brief time, mum was left terrified, thinking she may be prosecuted/fined for fraud.
At the age of 70 I don't give a jot . If the BBC wants to threaten me bring it on . Starmer and the BBC are flushing pensioners down the pan. Huge thank you for all your sound advice. Hopefully you will empower more worried people. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
DWP received my pension claim 1st July, reached pension age end of September, still not received anything yet, they claim it’s a 6-month processing time over the phone.
TV licensing couldn’t take ANYONE to Court without their name, surely ? That letter is addressed to ‘Legal Occupier’ ! If they don’t know the addressees name and haven’t found out who they are dealing with, how can they try to enforce ANYTHING ?!
Over the last 20 years I've received many letters from TV Licensing, threatening me to buy a license when not required. They have affected my mental health and they need to leave me alone. I feel victimised and it must stop.
My deceased mother was pushed into mental torture by one of these letters. She had been a sufferer of fears for many years. The idea of anybody entering her home sent her ovr the edge. Theyd double licensed her on the system. So one got cancelled...the other didnt. She didnt have a phone so couldnt do it. Ie sort it out.
I became fed up with these letters and decided to make a claim under the Small Claims Court rules for compensation for the time wasted in opening these letters and disposing of them, given the persistent and increasing threats from the licensing authority responsible for sending these letters to me. I eventually completed the claim and sent it to the licencing authority charging £150 per hour for my time and the amount was around one thousand pounds. They responded with an apology and the letters stopped coming from them.
This is the reason that TV Licencing/Crapita address the letters to the 'Legal Occupier' as if they continue to send it in your name it would be considered harassment/stalking!
@@mikehipperson Not true because if they have your name, they do use it. Being addressed to the "legal occupier" just means their investigation hasn't even got as far as finding out who that is. That is why folk shouldn't do the licence not required declaration, because you have to give a name on it. Also never buy a brand new TV or anything containing a television tuner, such as a freeview recorder or usb TV stick. When you buy new you have to give a name and address and TV licencing are notified of the purchase. If you have to buy new, pay in cash and give details of a friend or family you know to be licenced.
Unacceptable and a waste money. They send these regularly to my 93 year old former neighbour. Each letter gets more threatening - next will be 'you're going to get an enforcement visit'. Shameful and upsetting for the elderly who no longer have good enough sight to watch tv. Neither do they have internet to 'go online' and register that they don't need one.
Someone of that age doesn’t need a license - if they receive Pension Credit. And that’s the rub on’t. Anyone who’s worked hard, paid National Insurance, and perhaps contributed to a private pension scheme (remember, everyone is supposed to have an approved government one!), won’t get Pension Credit. Extrapolate that: I’m sure you can figure out who, in addition to the longterm sick, disabled, carers, and stay-at-home mothers, receives a free tv licence.
@@clogs4956 I am long term sick and don't have a free TV licence! I gave up watching TV in 2010 approximately, I don't have a licence and just fill out the declaration that I don't need one, whenever a letter is sent. As far as having a free licence, I don't think anybody wll qualify soon, as the wait for pension credit is ever increasing, due to the Gov lack of interest in the UK citizens. I am appalled at the tone of these letters being highlighted by you BBB, they seem to me to be corporate overreach to say the least!
I got arrested for not having a liscence. There was a point in my life when i had a breakdown, for a year i couldn't pay my bills, my wages were less then my wages, then i lost my job, landord but my rent up afterwards, and then evicted me. Once i moved, i got my head together, i started payomg my bills and paying what i owed on utilities including tv liscence. However because I'd moved, apparently they put a warrant out for my arrested. When they caught up to me in my new place they arrested me at my home. Sat in a cell (I've never been arrested before) a few hoirs later i saw a case worker and explained everything, when i went to court id told them everything again, including that i was paying for me tv liscence and that i was paying the backlog. The judge actually said that she didn't know why i was arrested in yhe first place because it was a waste of the courts time, she wrote off what i owed, which was a FU to the BBC!!! Thank you for doing these
Hi Daniel, at 80 years of age and having lived here for over 45 years I have had many letters. They used to be polite asking if I had a television and then about the licence. The answers were on a simple form to post back. Since retirement I used to send the reply part back without a stamp as I objected to having to pay to prove my innocence. Now the forms are of the nature of fear inducing in telling me that I am commiting a criminal offence. For over 2 years I just threw their letters in the recycling. Then came the letter in red, I consider this to be a public notice that I am a criminal. I find this not only to be objectionable but intimidating and to me as a lay person a direct assault on my honesty. I hope that through your channel things can change.
Hi Robert , you are of an age where you are Not required to have a TV license in order to watch BBC programmes, so tell them your age & they should Never send anymore threatening letters 😊
@@Bournie-d4y Not any more, that dispesation was removed some 3 years ago. Even then I still got those letters, so much for being innocent until proved guilty. Capita has been called Crapita before on this subject.
@@robertfisher7723 I was unaware of this. I only found out about it around 2 years ago, informed from a licence "officer". True, guilty until proven innocent these days!
@@andywharam59 Only if one is over 75 AND in receipt of Pension Credit, does one get a 'free' TV licence. I'm eligible for one - but I won't get one. I don't need one, so why should I give that bunch of dishonest fools my personal details?
Haven't needed a licence for over 20 years as I don't watch TV. A man came to the door and told me I needed a licence if I have a TV capable of showing live programmes. I looked at him and said, 'I am happy for you to switch off the service'. He was astounded and said that was not possible. I told him that was not my problem. Then he said I was obliged to inform them that I do not need a licence. I told him that if I informed every company in the UK whose services I neither wanted or needed, I would not have time to do anything else. They left me alone for a very long time after that, but I have just received that very same letter highlighted in this video. TV licence can do one.
You don't need to have a TV licence to own a television. It's what you use the television for depends on whether a licence is needed or not.😊 Whether it's capable of receiving live broadcast or not is irrelevant.
@Cader-ce6bv Thanks for that reassurance. The bullying way they behave makes you feel that you must have one. I have a tv but never watch it. When I did previously it was only ocasionally youtube or netflix. I only watch youtube on my phone these days. I really resent paying for a licence but suffer with anxiety so couldn't bare continuous threat letters
Just checked....had 46 letters since December 2019. Eight of these stating "no alternative than proceeding with the final stages of our unvestigation", yet the very next letter after each of these stating " no alternative than to begin an investigation"!!!!????.....and they are still addressed to "The Legal.Occupier"!!!!If this isnt Harassment then what is?????......If I were the BBC, I'd be sacking Capita if after five years & eight " investigations", they still dont know the name of the occupier.!!!!!!😂😂😂
I was advised by Citizens advice when questioned about if I needed a TV licence when filling a form on my behalf, she said it was law I had to declare I did not need one, I told her she was wrong and to do her research she said that is what they are told to say. Heaven help us with that kind of info.
thats nothing! I had a email correspondence with the BBC's own data protection officer. They incorrect said the only legal standing is a: you are on their no licence needed database or b: you have a licence. I told them there is c: i dont have a licence or go on their no licence needed database...... they didnt agree.... they are wrong.
they not working in your interest trust me they are not your friend .if they cant send you down the wrong track they lie to prevent and take your time up,or if you realy got some thing .they kickk you out the door before finalising and steal your paper work then ban you.
I am glad you mentioned this. I have not had tv since 2020 and registered this online with TV licencing. Two years later I received a reminder so I registered again that I did not need a licence. Then this year I received another reminder in the post. Again, I registered online that I still did not need a TV licence. Yet a month later another reminder arrived in the post, threatening action. So I registered AGAIN and the online confirmation actually stated that I had already registered. Yesterday, another threatening letter arrived, telling me I must go online and register again. This is HARRASSMENT! There is NO email, postal address or contact telephone number on the letters so I have no way of contacting them other than following the same old registration process until another threatening letter arrives. Imagine every company requiring potential customers to declare that they do not need their products and to send out threatening letters if they didn't register their declaration of no interest! How is TV licencing getting away with this legally?
A friend of mine’s mother died in her eighties in April 2024. My friend updated the website and and informed them formally of her passing away. My friend continues to open threatening letters directed to her mother. My point being it really doesn’t matter what you tell these people they will never leave you alone.
What a disrespectful move by BBC when your friend coping with profound grief Possibly a derogation, with the tone of presumption of guilt...why an earth such extortionate outdated tax existed for over half of the century ?
I'm fairly sure that (a) the letters pick dates that have nothing to do with the goons scheduled (b) they use a very unsophisticated random date picker
Yes I do believe they are harassing me. A letter every couple of weeks, threatening people coming to my home. That is harassment. What they should have learnt is, I don’t want or require one from the dozens of previous letters I haven’t responded to. The wording is aggressive and quite frankly I feel we should all get together and take them to court over it. They harassed my elderly father leading up to his death. He was in his mid 70’s at the time and didn’t require one anyway. Now they are harassing me. I wouldn’t pay them even if I did watch live TV or iplayer or what have you. It’s just wrong, paying a bunch of wrong-un’s, for what? Defund the BBC everyone
My bills and letters, etc, are overseen by my professional carers. One carer trusted the BBC and got really scared on my behalf because I don't have a TV licence (I don't need one). They contacted the BBC and it all got really complicated...the threats are really nasty. As well as being disabled I have cPTSD and the BBC letters trigger it. Horrible people.
What ever happened to the retired Scottish solicitor who was on TV only a few years ago stating the exact same thing only he said on TV that he was taking them to court for harassment, but nothing 🤔
Some years ago I went to buy a dvd player from a nationwide grocery store. Went to pay and they said to me they would have to notify TVL of my purchase along with my address because of 'licencing laws.' I left the store without making the purchase.
I bought a new TV within the last 7 years and was expecting the shop to ask for my address but they didn't. But the previous occasion, some years before, they had wanted the information in order to notify TVL. So things have changed in that respect.
I have finally waved goodbye to my TV licence, mostly in disgust to their (TV licencing) way of working. My partner is in the process of clearing her mother's estate. She contacted TV licencing to inform them that the resident had past away and therefore no license was required. Guess what, a few weeks later there were letters at the door threatening visits and legal action. They are an absolute disgrace, and I believe they should be taken to court and made to answer for their heavy handed and threatening approach.
I suffer severe anxiety and even though I do not watch TV or any BBC products for more than 10 years, I recieved a considerable number of such TV letters that I fell very ill. I can't handle mail of any kind most times due to mental health problems and I dont know how to handle forms. The stress and strain I have suffered can't be imagined. I fell really sick. They have not even a shred of evidence that I have a TV set or watch anything to do with TV, yet the threatening letters wrecked my health.
My elderly father who was suffering from mental illness related to COPD had a letter saying "if you don't want a visit from us, pay your licence" written in block capital letters as a header To say that I was enraged is an understatement.
A few weeks ago I received a letter to say my ‘case’ had been passed to an enforcement team. This letter and previous ones, don’t even have my name on. They’re addressed to ‘The Occupier’. I haven’t replied to any letter so far as I don’t need a licence. But yes, I do find them menacing and upsetting. Your video has put my mind at rest. I shall carry on ignoring their increasing threats and bullying.
I cancelled my TV license, called them up to do it, they've harassed me for years ever since. Insisting I need a license, that they'll escalate to the enforcement team. I can't even afford the heating and I go cold throughout the winter and yet these foul people continue to pester me for money I don't owe, I am not a customer, they're just bothering me.
I get these letter on a very regular basis. I save them al throughout the year. I keep meaning to send BBC a thank you letter for all the winter fire kindling and keeping my house warm during the winter months.
@@robertbrown3413Not quite. The actual drop is 500,000 per year, which equates to about 1.7% of tge UK's households per year. Still, it is clearly an un-sustainable loss of revenue, year on year. Which is why they want to put it on taxation.
3 years ago I was in hospital 3 months and asked TV licence for a refund those 3 months. Sent proof I was in hospital. Their reply is we cannot prove you didn't use your TV during these dates as its impossible to monitor and TV activity so we cannot issue a refund. I send same request to virgin and they said yep we see you didn't use your broadband so issued me 3 months credit. The moral of the story is they cannot monitor anyone using a TV. I then cancelled my license and only watch catch up TV now and Netflix no live TV or BBC iPlayer content. I now 3 year licence free 👍
I worked in Credit for many years, mainly business to business. We had to be really careful in the wording of our letters to the extent that you cannot do something that causes alarm, distress, or threats. Equally, you could not suggest that legal action had been taken when it clearly hadn't. What the BBC do is the most basic form of bad practice that was stopped many years ago, i. e. harassment and harm. If you've had one of these letters, flag it to them, keep all correspondence and litigate.
I had it out with TV Licensing about this very thing at my last property. I said they were harassing me and I repeatedly asked to be moved from their mailing list. They said that in order to stop the letters for the timebeing (only) I should go to their website and complete a declaration that I don't have a TV. But they reserved the right to enquire again in the future. So even if you comply with their "rules" they still won't leave you alone permanently. The letters have just started at my new home so it's time to start the battle again. I even said to them at one point that the DVLA do not write letters to every house in the land to threaten people and accuse them of potentially driving without a licence, so what gives TV licensing the right to do that? I think it's time we all get together and take them on as a group. Happy to get involved in co-ordinating something
After a quick glance to make sure I haven’t won something, (what?! It could happen!) I toss any letters addressed to “The Occupier” in the bin…. Harassment over.
Thank you for raising this issue. I have not had a television for over 20 years. I have been subject to a series of threatening letters. Eventually I yielded and wrote back to them confirming that I did not have need for a licence. It seemed so inappropriate. I do not see why I should share my details with someone I do not have a business relationship. I would certainly support a class action against this organisation.
I got this letter addessed to the 'legal occupier'. One was already there when I moved in, another one with another 10-day window arrived a few days later. It definitely generates a sense of harrassment, which prompted me to try and declare a 'dont need a license' but the website then continues to pressure you into believing that you need one. (see declare questionnaire). Now I just feel helpless. I want this to stop so I can live in peace which is my right, no? Im neurodiverse.
We have terminated our TV licence and we have no dialogue with the BBC or their TV licencing officers. I recently had one of their officers knock on our door and on identifying himself I said "no thank you" and closed the door. I advise no communications with these bullies. Period.
I notified TV Licensing that I did not require a licence and received acknowledgment. However I have been receiving these letters for months and months. Apart from the unpleasantness of their tone I am mortified with embarassment that the local post workers and regular postman who, in a rural area, is known to the neighbourhood, get to see these letters which have a window showing text that implies I am some kind of criminal. Maybe it's generational thing but as an elderly law abiding lady, I find this humiliating and unreasonable.
It is a deliberate and disgraceful ploy. Postal workers are not at all influenced or persuaded by such tactics. Ask yourself, what other organisation dares to disrespect the public in such a way in order to raise funds? None! Would you do such a despicable thing? No! Therefore, the BBC is contemptible and beneath you. Dear old Auntie Beeb excels at pretence, all the while abusing its audience & society in general, in any which way it chooses. It is they who rightfully should be mortified, embarrassed, humiliated and recognise their unreasonableness. But they don't! Instead, they persist in employing strong-armed methods to extort money. BBC licence fee revenue for 2023, £3.4 Billion. BBC total income for 2023 ~ £5.7 Billion. Respectfully: Three thousand,four hundred Million pounds. Five thousand, seven hundred Million pounds. Year after Year after Year after Year . . . . . How much more do they want? And what for, exactly?
I don't have a tv, don't watch brit Tv, and told them, but still letters kept coming. I ignored them. Then one day an actual tv guy turned up. It was hugely annoying. I knew I didn't have to let him in, but just to get these people out my face, I let him in to show him I had no tv, although I did have a pc which I expressed had no BBC i player or whatever its called. They haven't bothered me since. Still annoys me, I don't like people snooping in my home cos they won't believe me.
@MartinOReilly-mb4um It is indeed insulting. My offer to TV Licensing was that I was legally without a licence and they were welcome to inspect the situation for themselves at any time. However my fee for the inconvenience and degree of intrusion involved would be £35. They seemed unwilling to comply with that. Too bad; I offered them the opportunity.
The letter I received asks me if I'm going to be in on 25th December (large blue across the top) Has a red "stamp" at the bottom "enforcement visit approved" with a signature. "Our officers visit an address every 10 seconds. Day. evening. Even weekends" It is blatantly scare tactics.
@Bridenal yeah, even though I know deep down the letters mean nothing, being housebound & just me, adds that feeling of "what if they actually turn up" 😬
I stopped buying a licence about 5 years ago. I filled in the online form and was acknowledged. 3 years later I started getting these letters so I filled it in again and was acknowledged again. They have started again, first by two separate visits. I told them I did need a license. I then started recieving letters so I posted one back writing on the envelope not needed. The letters kept coming saying that I am under investigation. I ignored these but I have kept them. They are aggressive and in red ink. I'm waiting for the day a law firm take the BBC to court over this harassment. I don't watch live TV or iPlayer.
Same here. My tv aerial blew up in a storm in 2020 (thank goodness) and my family have not had tv since. (wonderful to miss out on all those brainwashing press conferences with Bojo). I registered online with Tv licencing that I did not need a licence and they largely left me alone until this year when I have received repeat threatening letters from them despite me registering again that I do not need a licence. I got yet another red letter yesterday. Is some computer spilling them out uncontrollably?
The problem is that now with internet they just have your word really cause you can watch live tv everywhere. I'm not saying people do it, I'm saying that them visiting your house makes no sense. What they should do is enforce companies to add a feature for uk residents that automatically disable any live content that's broadcasted by a tv network for people who declare they don't have a licence. But to have that burden on companies like Google / UA-cam etc. isn't fair so the next logical step is to do what Netflix and all other services do and go the subscription route
@VirtualDarKness the license fee is only required by the BBC. All other UK networks are paid for by advertising, so why would they care about unpaid licenses? It would be very easy for providers to lock BBC content behind a pay wall and require a passkey forming the valid license number, done.
I dislike letters like this because I know that if I use language and threats like this I’d have the police knocking on my door for harassment. Why should it be any different for Capita/BBC? So how about you taking a collection of pro-bono cases for harassment and totally reaming out the BBC? You should be able to collect a few dozen and after winning one, using that judgement for every other case. Maybe with a few hundred of these cases you could collect a few million in the way of fees. As a byproduct, maybe you could also launch a private prosecution against these unpleasant organisations.
Ultimately It's extortion with threats and menaces, and those who have paid up when they have no need to (because they don't watch live TV etc) have been extorted.
Yes I have had a threatening letter like this from TV Licensing - you then have difficulty getting through to them on the phone............it is a frightening experience. Thank you for this information it is very helpful. People should not be harassed like this.
When I cancelled my tv licence 3 months ago I called them and told them I no longer watch tv spoke to a very nice lady on the phone she asked me why I don't watch tv any more I said there is nothing worth watching I do not want to watch reality shows and also I was disgusted at what huw Edwards and done and no way was I going to support the BBC anymore and she did say in a years time I might get someone on my doorstep wanting to check and I said good luck with that one never heard from them so far
She was probably trying to get you to contradict your claim that you did not need a licence. Never, even, engage with them. It is not their business why you do anything.
My son is in first year of University in halls of residence, every flat (without a license registered to that flat) is receiving threatening letters from BBC enforcement. Given the majority of 18 year old students don't watch live TV, mostly Netflix and youtube. And if they do watch live TV on a device (laptop, iPad or phone) so long as it's not plugged into the mains at the time, the license at their parents address includes this use. Unfortunately, I get panic phone calls every time one of these letters arrive as the letters are threatening, and do exactly what they are intended to do - scare the students. My son wants me to buy him a license so he doesn't have to worry - I used to work at the BBC and now I'm ashamed of the BBC and these tactics
I would tell your son to watch Chillie John Carne and blackbelt barister for education on the subject so he does not need to worry. Getting a license only gives in to the bullying.
Son at uni gets regular letters and has had 2 visits. He's well versed not to speak to them, nothing good will come of it. As others suggest, tell him to watch ChilliJonCarne on here.
The letters are from the private company Capita, they are not from the BBC. Capita was awarded the exclusive contract by a previous conservative government. The BBC have little, if any, say whatsoever over the entire process.
Gives me so much anxiety. I don't need a licence cause who watches live TV! They have the audacity to tell me to contact them and tell them I don't need need one and still harass me every few months.
I once cancelled a TV licence and moved out but still they took me to court for not paying 😂 at the address I wasn't living at. Ridiculous. A total waste of resources and court time.
These look nearly exactly like bailiff letters too. If you’re dealing with a bailiff at the same time this adds monumental stress of only on opening. I got 6 of these in the month our declaration that we weren’t watching TV expired. We told them at the time we weren’t using TV and would tell them IF that changed.
Hey it's Scott Robson! He's a busy bee! He's been my local enforcement officer for about 8 years - in every hours I've ever owned - from London to Norfolk to Yorkshire.
My late mother had a black and white TV and when it died, she bought another one because she was honest amd bought a license-but for a b&w TV- because she couldn't afford a colour one. (I offered to buy it for her but she refused). They harassed her because they couldn't believe she was watching a b&w TV. She ended up having a massive heart attack and even after we buried her, they still sent letters.
I feel totally harassed...Years of monthly threatening letters.... Twice I've been online and told them that I don't have or watch a TV.....but the letters keep coming, with worsening threats of investigations, visits, inspections, police search warrants etc. They are harassing me
If you contact the BBC and fill in the form saying that you don't need a tv licence you have to tick a box saying you don't watch u tube, if you don't tick this box you are informed that you do need a tv licence, which of course is rubbish. Don't contact the bbc whatsoever
I got one and we all laughed and quite frankly treated the letter the same as all the others, straight in the bin. If I don't have a car do I have to tell DVLA I don't need insurance or to pay road tax? No, so why does the BBC think I need to tell them I don't watch TV or need a licence. I have been receiving letters for over three years and never had a visit or felt alarmed. I don't watch live TV.
Spot on, but I've had 4 visits over 20 years of not having a TV. The licensing officers are pleasant enough so long as you know they have no right to enter your house without a warrant. No need to give your name either. Then shut the door and enjoy the BBC's / Capita's failed high-pressure tactics.
They did a sneaky visit from me under the false pretences of a government survey about the arts. I was working at the time so said I don't have time but try my neighbours. When they said it was me specifically cos of my circumstances and were really keen to book another time I got suspicious and politely asked them to leave. I researched the questionnaire online to find it did exist but some of the "watching TV" questions were too specifically worded to be coincidence. Be wary as they don't always turn up as TV Licensing!
I DON'T GO FISHING, I DON'T HAVE A DOG, I DON'T GO SHOOTING, no one asks if i need a licence for any of these so why should the British Bias Company? shame on you TV licensing.!!!
@@blunderingfool it's one of those things that just gets called the wrong name all the time, like Adrenaline Junkies and Radiators, they don't exist either
There’s no law stating that you have got to talk to Capita or the BBC or the TV license Board. So basically when their GOONS come knocking at your door, you are not oblige to answer the door. If you do answer the door, just ask them who are you and when they say “I am from the tv license company “ just reply “ Sorry but no thank you “ then shut the door.
Thank you for your great information, which helped give me confidence to cancel my licence, which I did the other day by filling in the on-line form. On my phone and my tablet it wouldn't let me fill in the licence number, but my son in law managed it on his phone. I'm nearing 70 years old and in poor health, so hoping I don't get this kind of harassment for staying within the law. Thanks again
Why did you even need to do that ? You do not need to communicate with them AT ALL. Just cancel your DD or just don't purchase one. There is no real concept of "canceling" a license: you either have one or you don't.
If you do please let your son in law deal with it. If they send you letters again , write the date on them and give them to him. Don't worry If someone rings your door bell and you don't expect anyone , don't open the door. If you decide to ask who is at your door, do it through the closed door or a window and if it would be those tv licence ppl, just say politely no thank you I don't need one (you officialy cancelled it because you don't need a tv licence). Dont have discussions ith them. Again inform your son in law to deal with it. Let him inform Black Belt Barrister. He may be able to sue them for haressment for you and others in the future. Have a very 🎄Merry Christmas ✨🎀with your family Marta🎄☃🎄🎁🎄
Just to re-iterate others - if you do get a visit , do not engage in conversation with them and under no circumstances sign anything. You have no obligation to talk to them and they have no right of entry.
I threw my TV out seven years ago and I still get these letters every few months. I always tell people just to renew their statement these letters always look terrifying.
I know people who don’t have have never paid them, you can open the letters or do what you want as they don’t mean anything useless you’re stupid enough to have given them your name. I wish more people knew what a long running scam this is by the BBC, but they prey on the uninformed and gullible people (usually elderly). They have been making close to 4 billion a year with the TV licence scam. At least people seem to be catching on more now, so there is some positive.
To start with, its address to the 'legal occupier', in other words, they dont have an individual to attempt to prosecute. All they have is an address noted without a license. No named individuals, nor evidence of any actual offence. Bin it!
Thankyou for this Dan, it means a lot when you says it’s on the verge of harrassment, as a barrister you have a fair view, so coming from you is very important! Love you Dan 🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️
Yep I haven't had a TV for probably over 30 Years. I still get all the letters! Even after filling in the not needed thing on their website. I return to Sender their Letters now, because I'm so fed up with them. Strangely they have not come to visit though.
Oh! it will! On the 25th, an enforcement officer will drop down your chimney, dressed in red, and nick your biscuits and milk while checking to see if you have been watching live TV. or am I confusing them with someone else?
I’ve had 4 of these letters in the last 6 months. I just laugh at how desperate the wording is. The first letter had very different wording, and each letter since has progressively gotten more threatening, and now apparently I have an officer coming to my door at a random date. Mongs
I’ve been getting those letters for many years. Not watched live tv for about 30 years now. I did once have an agent come to my door and I let him in because although I did have a monitor to play games on and to watch my own DVDs it was clearly not connected to an aerial or set up to watch live tv in any way. The agent lied and I was taken to court. I was furious and eventually won my case. Since I’ve moved, I still get letters addressed to the resident. I laugh and throw them straight in the bin. If they came to my door, they most certainly will not be let in and I will be telling them why. If they persist and get some kind of warrant, I will take them to court for harassment for sure. They really have got a nerve.
Until recently, if you had a device capable of displaying live tv, you needed a licence. But now you don’t necessarily need a licence just because you have a tv…
@@richardkelly9156 not quite sure what you mean Richard. I’m not making any claim for harassment. I’m just ignoring them because I don’t watch live tv. I’m sure if I opened the letters it would stress me out, due to their obnoxious wordings, but I don’t open the envelope. It’s just put straight in the bin.
When we moved into our new house 11 years ago we received our first letter which we responded to. Two years later we received another letter which we ignored, apparently on average people move house every two years, this is why we were sent another letter. We did nothing with it. For the next two or three years we received a letter every two weeks which I filed away for the day the came to visit us, they never came. We got so fed up that we finally advised them that a license was not required. the letters stopped for about two years but just this month we received another letter, so I have sent it back “return to sender” unopened and “no change” written on the envelope. We have certainly be harassed,,!
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@Only_x_Boredand of course if they show up at your door, just tell em to do one/sling their hook(points thumb backwards)
BBB - Have you seen the statements made by Lucy's team?
What do you think about Dewi changing his statements? - Do you think he should be facing perjury charges (to stop this from happening (so called experts giving flawed or just false evidence (because it fits their bias))
Isn't this a breach of the Data Protection Act? They appear to be saying "We hold information that you should have a licence but you haven't got one" Since this person doesn't need a licence, and has told them so, the information they are holding is wrong, and they know it is wrong. Isn't it illegal under the Data Protection Act to continue to store false data after being notified that it is false?
no one needed a tv license to watch the royals get married live. how is it law, law don't turn on and off no one is above the law ?.
isnt it a breach of data to include the address in your screen capture 52 h+++++++++ drive
They're getting desperate because people are cancelling their tv license
But if you cancel your license they still insist on a visit!😂😂😂
Well there's 23 million who still pay, 500K have canceled. Alarming for them, sure, but they're still rolling in it and splashing their cash about. More people need to cancel.
Keep shutting folk,we've got to get this pile of sh#te out.
And losing viewers but those ones are frightened to cancel license
My mate is a postman, he's been doing it years. He said the amount of "red" letters he is posting nowadays is well up on previous years.
The BBC are hemorrhaging subscribers it would seem.
I have received these letters for years and did feel HARASSED, frieghtend, until I researched the law. This activity MUST be stopped
Really did you figure out just tell them you don't watch LIVE TV?
It's all deliberate. They do this to intimidate people.
@@personalunderstanding7055have complied with what they want but still get these letters.
@@personalunderstanding7055 You really think that will work? Btw it won't.
@@tancreddehauteville764 How stupid do you need to be, to know how to stop the letters with a phone call and don't.
One of our neighbours put up CCTV around his property. My feeling is that it also protects me! Before he turned it on, he put a note through all the neighbours that might be covered by the cameras, telling us when it was going live and where exactly the cameras were pointing. He asked for comments and explained how he would be happy to share the images if any of us had any problems. Job done. Everyone is happy and the cameras now protect most of the street!
W neighbour
It is bullying. And needs to get filed in the bin.
I open all my letters stood next to the re cycling bin outside. I dont actually open these ones; they go straight in.
Or black out your address and send it back
I watched a video a few years back of a UA-camr who got so fed up with receiving these threatening letters from Capita and RAPP that he found the home address of the local Capita boss and went around to her home to return the letters and tell her company not to contact him in the future. Within hours of him returning home, she had made a false complaint regarding Harassment to Police, who immediately sent a van-load of cops around to his house to get his details and do their usual 'Door-Step Intimidation and Lies' in order to warn him off. When he stated his case, the threats rose to possible arrest and charges.
Capita and RAPP are trash, but they are simply hired Lieutenants in the war that the BBC is raging with the citizens of the UK. The real enemy is the BBC, that haven of criminals and Government propagandists. The reputation of the BBC as 'the truth in journalism' died years ago along with their Auntie BEEB name. They are a Woke parasite and need to be torn apart and rebuilt.
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Unfortunately they are the Governments mouthpiece.
But true what you say and such aggressive behaviour to the public is a disgrace.
At the moment I’ve not bothered opening any of there threatening letters, and left them in a pile.
Did you see Lee Anderson ripping up one of his letters and his comments on UA-cam channel?
Was interesting 🧐
@@colinpryor4290 I wouldnt say rebuilt. I would want a clean slate, a new boss....Elon Musk?. Call the new station Z
So this level of harassment is allowed to go unchecked, whilst people are arrested for praying in their head? What a sick society we have become.....
I thought this was some nonsense..but just a quick Google shows 3 cases of Christians being arrested for claiming to be Christian by West-Midlands and Dorset..
As someone that works with vulnerable adults the way TV licensing conducts themselves is frankly disgusting
BBC needs to be shut down.
Couldn’t agree more 👍
Yeah, let's just have media owned by billionaires, who obviously have the best interests of ordinary people at heart.
@@andreasstavrinides6980oh, the irony...if only you understood it
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I completely agree
Imagine Tesco mailing you saying you have 10 days to buy groceries or tell them you don’t need any groceries, it’s ridiculous.
10 days before Christmas 😂😂😂 pure marketing
Very true and the argument I always use,in no other industry are you obliged to pay for a service you may not use or even want to use,when you try and explain this system to foreigners,particularly Americans they are completely gobsmacked,it’s actually like Tesco demanding a shopping licence fee even if you only shop at Sainsbury’s,how it’s allowed beggars belief.
@@robertmansell3667 Even government departments like DVLA don't harrass non-drivers for not have license, registration and insurance documented. FFS if DVLA can be competent and do things right, then Crapita and BBC Licensing should be required to not deluge non-customers with constant threat-o-grams.
That's because the BBC like to make stuff up. In reality they are impotent
No no no. Tesco saying you have 10 days to subscribe to their annual plan or you will be arrested or banned from shopping anywhere else.
I've personally been on the receiving end of the TV Licencing harrassment campaign. I complained in writing via email to TV Licencing, explaining I don't need a licence and why, and that they were to stop harassing me. Their response was that they can do what they want, and will harass me as much as they want and there's nothing I can do about it. All this was in an email, which I sent to my MP as an escalation and asked for his help. I got assurance from my MP that it would stop, which after his intervention it did initially. I then received a cheque in the post for £50 from TV Licencing. No explaination, just an envelope with a cheque enclosed. This can only be compensation for their behaviour.
It all started again 2 years later, and I simply forwarded straight to said MP who stopped it immediately.
As you've called out, the wording in their letters is threatening.
How strange,I just received the exact same letter yesterday. I told them so many times I don't even have TV and don't watch BBC Iplayer and am happy for them to send someone to investigate.
And yet they continue. It’s beyond me that no one has taken them to court to stop these letters - in general.
send their letters back to them. This is what I do. (also dont pay for it. RM will make them pay for it.)
The letter should read " If you watch live TV you are required by law to have a TV Licence. If you do not watch live TV then please ignore this letter" Oh dear, if only.
"Live" is an interesting term as sooner rather than later, TV schedules will start to go away and so nothing will be "live". I always thought live really only referred to things like sports games or things happening as they're broadcast. Watching soaps or bargain hunt isn't live.
Actually it now includes watching tv programmes on-line after their broadcast date.
this licence review cycle they're going to request streaming be added to the requirements i'm guessing.
Told them to come and view my property voluntarily and I’ll open the door, if it stops the threatening letters.
Explained I had a projector and played games consoles. Less than 5 yrs later they added bbc iPlayer to games consoles and included recording devices, this was just at the end of the VHS and CD days.
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Already have I think.
I had an enforcement officer turn up at my door a few years ago, I don’t watch TV but had a broken one in the inglenook. He said he wanted to see it as he saw it through the window, so, I picked the TV up and gave it to the enforcement officer outside, he was quite shocked when I said he can keep it, he did not know what to do when I closed the door on him and said ‘ that saves me taking it to the dump. I have never heard from them again.
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They cannot peer through windows ,letter boxes
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@@flashman2....oh but they do.....
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I have never payed for a TV licence and I never will. I do not fund criminals.
The worst bit about these letters is the fact that the people that will be frightened by them will be the naive, the vulnerable and the elderly.
Well summed up. That's what they're counting on.
And those are the ones dragged off to court. :(
@@jasonuren3479 But Stammerer and Rachel Theives are trying to kill off us elderly so where are the going to get the TV Tax from then?
@barriewilliams. Serves ‘em right for being so feckless.
I don’t know which of those three categories I despise most.
I myself am a vulnerable, naive, unlicensed 74 year old.
@@martinandroid2538worse, prosecuted in their absence usually.
Fed up with being basically called a liar
Yeah it's rude isn't it?!
I feel the same, BBC are a discrace.
I do not watch TV..I haven’t for years. I used to buy a license religiously until I stopped needing one at which point I rang TV licensing and informed them. Since then I have been sent these letters regularly and they get more and more threatening. Even though I know I’m ‘clean’, my tummy twists each time. I have CPTSD so anything stressful has a detrimental impact upon me. These people are bullies and need to be stopped!
Yes. I find TV Licensing extremely threatening even though I haven't owned a TV for over twenty years. I really hate having to let them know that I still don't own a TV every two years. It's as if they can't imagine that someone might actually not watch their boring programmes 😡
Same thing happened to me, turns out you have to do it every year. What a joke.
It doesn’t surprise me they spend more time on harassing people for money over the license fee, than they spend money vetting their staff for sexual misconduct .
A freedom of information request would be interesting reading
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Most of the people they prosecute are single women. Virtually none of those were caught watching TV. Almost all of them foolishly admitted to watching TV. There is no TV detector van or technology that can detect people watching TV. Though they can check records to see if you have watched live TV say on Sky.
For what, do you actually know what you can apply for on a FIA ? No personal information on employees.
Disciplinaries are always private and confidential. You definitely can't get that on freedom of information.
At my place of work, we can post certain information on this. Asking for a freedom of information on somebody's post shouldn't be allowed, and I'm glad it's not 😂
The license fee is managed by the private company Capita. The exclusive contract awarded to Capita was negotiated by the previous conservative government. The BBC have no control over Capita whatsoever.
I've not had a licence since October 1998. 26 years. My TV works fine and I use the money to pay for my Triumph Bonneville insurance. Marvellous.
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@@spartacus09ful Very nice. 600 is the perfect size today imo 👌
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Excellent! Well done that man! 👍🏻
The goon who came to my door told me I needed a licence. Amazing assessment from the doorstep with no evidence.
Yeah, that is their default stance, which on average is probably true, but also worth remembering that the are lowly paid employees of Capita where a chunk of their salary is commission based.
Unfortunately they have no right to your details.
So create a temporary email address then email them with the number on the letter, state you do not require a tv license and also state "i am removing your right if access to this property".
As you have already removed their right of access to your property then straight up it won't be just a normal tresspass. 👍
I wiped my arse on the TV licensing letter and got a paper cut. Can I sue?
If the programme is being watched live then yes.
You shouldn't wipe with tv licensing letters, they come pre-covered in sh!te........
You might need to display the evidence. I hope you are keeping it safe in the fridge.
Inconsiderate basterds should be using softer recycled paper for their threatening letters! Yes - Sue the crap out of them!
The skidmark of truth...😁
This letter is really bad for someone with anxiety and even depression. It could lead to self-deletion. TV Licensing are a disgrace.
If there's one tiny positive thing, (noting how the comment can't spell the actual word) raises awareness of the way this platform continually stops us from calling a spade a spade when it has to be done.
this is very true, letters like this can and do push some over the edge
I have not had a TV licence since the year 2007. I do not have a TV set capable of receiving digital signals and follow ALL the rules religiously. Yet I receive a monthly threatening letter to get me to purchase a licence! I have kept these letters unopened and marked them when received.
This would be a right joke if not downright criminal for the harassment, alarm and distress they cause to unsuspecting people. I am amazed and flabbergasted how this has been allowed to continue unchallenged in the courts. These people are attempting to obtain money by menaces and threatening behaviour, from innocent people.
what do you plan with all the letters received?
@@along4990I do not know at the moment. I was thinking of printing out return labels and posting them back all at once, but that would cause me work. However, I have shown the bunch of unopened letters to my neighbour and he has a habit of visiting and talking to other neighbours with a view to cancelling their own TV licenses.
@ Ive got around 40 now and when i get a day off work and im bored im gonna make a paper mache statue of jimmy saville and send it to em explaining where i got the paper from 😃👍
@@carlvaz as long as you dont address the letter from yourself. Thats what theyre waiting for, a signed response from you, then they have you. My Grandad keeps his in a folder and we laff at them every now and then
Surely because you've kept them all, you could accuse them of stalking or coercive control.
My dad died in January 2024. I'm still in the process of sorting out his estate. In the pile of letters that arrive to his house, there must be AT LEAST 6 from the tv licencing people. Obviously the licence was cancelled after his death... I find it perplexing how he's still getting letters; he's under investigation now apparently... what a terrible organisation if you ask me!
That is a lawsuit in the making. Harassement and alarm and distress.
I am I currently in the process of sorting out my dad's estate. The amount of letters is absurd. Final final x 3 warning. Red letters, poorly worded letters etc.
The rest is silence
My elderly mum forgot to change the TV licence into her name when my dad died. She continued to pay the annual fee, but it was some time before she requested a name change on the account. When she made the call, she was told very unsympathetically that what she had been doing was fraud and further action may be taken. It made her feel stressed, and no condolences were offered to her about my dad's passing. We sorted it eventually, but for a brief time, mum was left terrified, thinking she may be prosecuted/fined for fraud.
That's shocking! I'm so sorry. 😿
At the age of 70 I don't give a jot . If the BBC wants to threaten me bring it on . Starmer and the BBC are flushing pensioners down the pan. Huge thank you for all your sound advice. Hopefully you will empower more worried people. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
DWP received my pension claim 1st July, reached pension age end of September, still not received anything yet, they claim it’s a 6-month processing time over the phone.
It was the Tories that took away the free TV licence.
You'll get a warm prison cell, with TV, a gym, three meals a day, and you'll get to see a GP same day. You'll also have lots of company. ❤
@Britephartt but Labour hasn't returned them.
pensoiners voted for the tory i can fully understand his view you need to go.you dont care for people future ,you deserve it,
TV licensing couldn’t take ANYONE to Court without their name, surely ? That letter is addressed to ‘Legal Occupier’ ! If they don’t know the addressees name and haven’t found out who they are dealing with, how can they try to enforce ANYTHING ?!
Yes is that the case ?
They can't which is why people should just ignore them
Over the last 20 years I've received many letters from TV Licensing, threatening me to buy a license when not required. They have affected my mental health and they need to leave me alone. I feel victimised and it must stop.
Agreed
Use a letter. Write to the person in the letter. Be kind and polite but with heading CEASE & DESIST. It works.
you certainly need legal advice, sue them if you threatened by such harassments
that's trespassing for sure!
My deceased mother was pushed into mental torture by one of these letters. She had been a sufferer of fears for many years. The idea of anybody entering her home sent her ovr the edge.
Theyd double licensed her on the system. So one got cancelled...the other didnt.
She didnt have a phone so couldnt do it. Ie sort it out.
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Just don’t open them is what I do and that way I don’t no the contents of them
I became fed up with these letters and decided to make a claim under the Small Claims Court rules for compensation for the time wasted in opening these letters and disposing of them, given the persistent and increasing threats from the licensing authority responsible for sending these letters to me. I eventually completed the claim and sent it to the licencing authority charging £150 per hour for my time and the amount was around one thousand pounds. They responded with an apology and the letters stopped coming from them.
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Love it 😂
Well done indeed. But shame on the bullying TV LIcensing dept.
Did they pay up? :)
Never mind their apology, did they settle your claim?
I haven't had a TV for about twenty-five years and I really resent having to tell TV Licensing that I don't need a licence. 😡
@@ClaireGarrard why tell them?just let em keep wasting their money on stamps and letters i do! 😃👍
IMO the judicial system is so far gone that i don't think they would ever recognise that these letters are 'harassment'...
Exactly. You can't sue a company the government endorses 😂
This is the reason that TV Licencing/Crapita address the letters to the 'Legal Occupier' as if they continue to send it in your name it would be considered harassment/stalking!
Unless you are of a certain demographic. 😯
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@@mikehipperson Not true because if they have your name, they do use it.
Being addressed to the "legal occupier" just means their investigation hasn't even got as far as finding out who that is.
That is why folk shouldn't do the licence not required declaration, because you have to give a name on it.
Also never buy a brand new TV or anything containing a television tuner, such as a freeview recorder or usb TV stick.
When you buy new you have to give a name and address and TV licencing are notified of the purchase.
If you have to buy new, pay in cash and give details of a friend or family you know to be licenced.
Unacceptable and a waste money. They send these regularly to my 93 year old former neighbour. Each letter gets more threatening - next will be 'you're going to get an enforcement visit'. Shameful and upsetting for the elderly who no longer have good enough sight to watch tv. Neither do they have internet to 'go online' and register that they don't need one.
Someone of that age doesn’t need a license - if they receive Pension Credit. And that’s the rub on’t. Anyone who’s worked hard, paid National Insurance, and perhaps contributed to a private pension scheme (remember, everyone is supposed to have an approved government one!), won’t get Pension Credit.
Extrapolate that: I’m sure you can figure out who, in addition to the longterm sick, disabled, carers, and stay-at-home mothers, receives a free tv licence.
@@clogs4956 I am long term sick and don't have a free TV licence! I gave up watching TV in 2010 approximately, I don't have a licence and just fill out the declaration that I don't need one, whenever a letter is sent. As far as having a free licence, I don't think anybody wll qualify soon, as the wait for pension credit is ever increasing, due to the Gov lack of interest in the UK citizens. I am appalled at the tone of these letters being highlighted by you BBB, they seem to me to be corporate overreach to say the least!
I got arrested for not having a liscence. There was a point in my life when i had a breakdown, for a year i couldn't pay my bills, my wages were less then my wages, then i lost my job, landord but my rent up afterwards, and then evicted me. Once i moved, i got my head together, i started payomg my bills and paying what i owed on utilities including tv liscence. However because I'd moved, apparently they put a warrant out for my arrested. When they caught up to me in my new place they arrested me at my home. Sat in a cell (I've never been arrested before) a few hoirs later i saw a case worker and explained everything, when i went to court id told them everything again, including that i was paying for me tv liscence and that i was paying the backlog. The judge actually said that she didn't know why i was arrested in yhe first place because it was a waste of the courts time, she wrote off what i owed, which was a FU to the BBC!!!
Thank you for doing these
Hi Daniel, at 80 years of age and having lived here for over 45 years I have had many letters. They used to be polite asking if I had a television and then about the licence. The answers were on a simple form to post back. Since retirement I used to send the reply part back without a stamp as I objected to having to pay to prove my innocence. Now the forms are of the nature of fear inducing in telling me that I am commiting a criminal offence. For over 2 years I just threw their letters in the recycling. Then came the letter in red, I consider this to be a public notice that I am a criminal. I find this not only to be objectionable but intimidating and to me as a lay person a direct assault on my honesty. I hope that through your channel things can change.
Hi Robert , you are of an age where you are Not required to have a TV license in order to watch BBC programmes, so tell them your age & they should Never send anymore threatening letters 😊
@@andywharam59I was going to write the same. I forget whether it's retirement age or around 70-74 but yes, there's no need to pay.
@@Bournie-d4y Not any more, that dispesation was removed some 3 years ago. Even then I still got those letters, so much for being innocent until proved guilty. Capita has been called Crapita before on this subject.
@@robertfisher7723 I was unaware of this. I only found out about it around 2 years ago, informed from a licence "officer". True, guilty until proven innocent these days!
@@andywharam59
Only if one is over 75 AND in receipt of Pension Credit, does one get a 'free' TV licence. I'm eligible for one - but I won't get one. I don't need one, so why should I give that bunch of dishonest fools my personal details?
Haven't needed a licence for over 20 years as I don't watch TV. A man came to the door and told me I needed a licence if I have a TV capable of showing live programmes. I looked at him and said, 'I am happy for you to switch off the service'. He was astounded and said that was not possible. I told him that was not my problem. Then he said I was obliged to inform them that I do not need a licence. I told him that if I informed every company in the UK whose services I neither wanted or needed, I would not have time to do anything else. They left me alone for a very long time after that, but I have just received that very same letter highlighted in this video. TV licence can do one.
You don't need to have a TV licence to own a television. It's what you use the television for depends on whether a licence is needed or not.😊 Whether it's capable of receiving live broadcast or not is irrelevant.
@Cader-ce6bv Thanks for that reassurance. The bullying way they behave makes you feel that you must have one. I have a tv but never watch it. When I did previously it was only ocasionally youtube or netflix. I only watch youtube on my phone these days. I really resent paying for a licence but suffer with anxiety so couldn't bare continuous threat letters
Just checked....had 46 letters since December 2019. Eight of these stating "no alternative than proceeding with the final stages of our unvestigation", yet the very next letter after each of these stating " no alternative than to begin an investigation"!!!!????.....and they are still addressed to "The Legal.Occupier"!!!!If this isnt Harassment then what is?????......If I were the BBC, I'd be sacking Capita if after five years & eight " investigations", they still dont know the name of the occupier.!!!!!!😂😂😂
I don't know how many that I have but I have had so many final notices that I suspect that have no clue what the words mean
I told them any further communication would be considered harassment a few years ago and they've been very quiet ever since.
Sounds right, I get one every 4 weeks on average, they don't get opened
I was advised by Citizens advice when questioned about if I needed a TV licence when filling a form on my behalf, she said it was law I had to declare I did not need one, I told her she was wrong and to do her research she said that is what they are told to say.
Heaven help us with that kind of info.
thats nothing! I had a email correspondence with the BBC's own data protection officer. They incorrect said the only legal standing is a: you are on their no licence needed database or b: you have a licence. I told them there is c: i dont have a licence or go on their no licence needed database...... they didnt agree.... they are wrong.
@robtheplod
Wow you would expect them to know, but guess they try it on and see who obeys their lies.
It is not law you have to inform TV licence that you don't need a licence if you don't watch live TV.
Citizens Advice are useless. My cat knows more
they not working in your interest trust me they are not your friend .if they cant send you down the wrong track they lie to prevent and take your time up,or if you realy got some thing .they kickk you out the door before finalising and steal your paper work then ban you.
It's disgusting how they can scare/bully people into buying a TV license!
It's called coercion.
Having to 'up' the threatening tone of their letters, suggests to me that it's not working with most people anymore
I'm 74 yo. They are wasting their time if they think they can scare or bully me.
It’s a protection racket!!!
I am glad you mentioned this. I have not had tv since 2020 and registered this online with TV licencing. Two years later I received a reminder so I registered again that I did not need a licence. Then this year I received another reminder in the post. Again, I registered online that I still did not need a TV licence. Yet a month later another reminder arrived in the post, threatening action. So I registered AGAIN and the online confirmation actually stated that I had already registered. Yesterday, another threatening letter arrived, telling me I must go online and register again. This is HARRASSMENT! There is NO email, postal address or contact telephone number on the letters so I have no way of contacting them other than following the same old registration process until another threatening letter arrives. Imagine every company requiring potential customers to declare that they do not need their products and to send out threatening letters if they didn't register their declaration of no interest! How is TV licencing getting away with this legally?
Return To Sender 😅
Why register in the first place? Do you also phone up the local Police to let them know you haven't broken any Laws recently?
A friend of mine’s mother died in her eighties in April 2024. My friend updated the website and and informed them formally of her passing away. My friend continues to open threatening letters directed to her mother. My point being it really doesn’t matter what you tell these people they will never leave you alone.
AI doesn't care for death or the living !!!
Why does she open the letters?
What a disrespectful move by BBC when your friend coping with profound grief
Possibly a derogation, with the tone of presumption of guilt...why an earth such extortionate outdated tax existed for over half of the century ?
She should not have paid, she was in her 80s.
Not until you go to their houses instead.
Threatening to knock at your door on Christmas Day (25th Dec) over a licence issue, sounds very much like work of the anti-christ.
Typical bloody anti-christ behavior! He'd probably poop on your doorstep, and trample your flower beds at the same time.
Yep 18th can’t wait to ask the tv licence bloke about Jill Dando
Knock on my door politely tell them FO
Intimidating the weak willed
I'm fairly sure that (a) the letters pick dates that have nothing to do with the goons scheduled (b) they use a very unsophisticated random date picker
I've been ignoring these letters for 4-5 years. Shame people will feel pressured by them. The BBC will be history soon.
Yes I do believe they are harassing me. A letter every couple of weeks, threatening people coming to my home. That is harassment. What they should have learnt is, I don’t want or require one from the dozens of previous letters I haven’t responded to. The wording is aggressive and quite frankly I feel we should all get together and take them to court over it. They harassed my elderly father leading up to his death. He was in his mid 70’s at the time and didn’t require one anyway. Now they are harassing me. I wouldn’t pay them even if I did watch live TV or iplayer or what have you. It’s just wrong, paying a bunch of wrong-un’s, for what? Defund the BBC everyone
Like the Mafia.
Bunch of wrong uns 😂😂😂😂
Have they threatened to send people round, or have people turned up? I've been getting these letters for years.
@@Neil_down_south Same here, but been 5 or 6 years since a goon actually knocked.
@matthewjenkins1161 I've not had a licence in about 20 years but never had one visit. I have moved house every few years though.
My bills and letters, etc, are overseen by my professional carers. One carer trusted the BBC and got really scared on my behalf because I don't have a TV licence (I don't need one). They contacted the BBC and it all got really complicated...the threats are really nasty. As well as being disabled I have cPTSD and the BBC letters trigger it. Horrible people.
Evil.
SACK THE CARER
Report them to the police.
I’d report them to the police,
And then the police sides with them.....
What ever happened to the retired Scottish solicitor who was on TV only a few years ago stating the exact same thing only he said on TV that he was taking them to court for harassment, but nothing 🤔
Some years ago I went to buy a dvd player from a nationwide grocery store. Went to pay and they said to me they would have to notify TVL of my purchase along with my address because of 'licencing laws.' I left the store without making the purchase.
I bought a new TV within the last 7 years and was expecting the shop to ask for my address but they didn't. But the previous occasion, some years before, they had wanted the information in order to notify TVL. So things have changed in that respect.
@@francespike9780just give them your local Labour voters address
That send name and address to TVL buying a TV was killed off years ago.
@francespike9780 yes, same here 👍
@@robredzIf so, it's because they want those Benjamin's! 💷💷💷💷💷💰
I have finally waved goodbye to my TV licence, mostly in disgust to their (TV licencing) way of working. My partner is in the process of clearing her mother's estate. She contacted TV licencing to inform them that the resident had past away and therefore no license was required. Guess what, a few weeks later there were letters at the door threatening visits and legal action. They are an absolute disgrace, and I believe they should be taken to court and made to answer for their heavy handed and threatening approach.
I suffer severe anxiety and even though I do not watch TV or any BBC products for more than 10 years, I recieved a considerable number of such TV letters that I fell very ill. I can't handle mail of any kind most times due to mental health problems and I dont know how to handle forms. The stress and strain I have suffered can't be imagined. I fell really sick. They have not even a shred of evidence that I have a TV set or watch anything to do with TV, yet the threatening letters wrecked my health.
I would only be worried by a letter like this if my name was "Legal Occupier" 😂😂😂
Not known at this address 😂
Knock on the door? Tell them to do one. Do not engage in conversation and they have no right of entry.
My elderly father who was suffering from mental illness related to COPD had a letter saying "if you don't want a visit from us, pay your licence" written in block capital letters as a header
To say that I was enraged is an understatement.
A few weeks ago I received a letter to say my ‘case’ had been passed to an enforcement team. This letter and previous ones, don’t even have my name on. They’re addressed to ‘The Occupier’. I haven’t replied to any letter so far as I don’t need a licence. But yes, I do find them menacing and upsetting. Your video has put my mind at rest. I shall carry on ignoring their increasing threats and bullying.
I cancelled my TV license, called them up to do it, they've harassed me for years ever since. Insisting I need a license, that they'll escalate to the enforcement team. I can't even afford the heating and I go cold throughout the winter and yet these foul people continue to pester me for money I don't owe, I am not a customer, they're just bothering me.
Did you get rid of your TV radio and car radio?
@wonderland1985 what's the connection, genius?
@@wonderland1985 You don't even need to get rid of your TV without a TV licence, so why get rid of radios which aren't covered by the TV licence?
If you listen to radio1, 2 or 4, for example, you need a TV licence.
@Lena. No you don’t, where on earth did you get that idea?
I get these letter on a very regular basis. I save them al throughout the year. I keep meaning to send BBC a thank you letter for all the winter fire kindling and keeping my house warm during the winter months.
A letter like that could flip someone over the edge, ie someone suffering with depression, that letter really could do a lot of damage.
I love your work. Why not setup a class action law suit and shut this down once and for all. This bullying should stop.
exactly talks the game as a barrister but isn't doing anything really
are there no court cases against the TV Licensing yet?
That's because they are running out of money with more and more cancellations from households!
Absolutely
I heard the licences are dropping 6% every year.
@@robertbrown3413 thats not enough
Bill Gates gave them £54 million one year I looked so he'll just have to give them a bit more.
@@robertbrown3413Not quite. The actual drop is 500,000 per year, which equates to about 1.7% of tge UK's households per year.
Still, it is clearly an un-sustainable loss of revenue, year on year. Which is why they want to put it on taxation.
3 years ago I was in hospital 3 months and asked TV licence for a refund those 3 months. Sent proof I was in hospital. Their reply is we cannot prove you didn't use your TV during these dates as its impossible to monitor and TV activity so we cannot issue a refund. I send same request to virgin and they said yep we see you didn't use your broadband so issued me 3 months credit. The moral of the story is they cannot monitor anyone using a TV. I then cancelled my license and only watch catch up TV now and Netflix no live TV or BBC iPlayer content. I now 3 year licence free 👍
Good on Virgin.
@@markrainford1219 WELL DONE THIS NEEDS PUBLISIZING JUST SO EVERONE IS AWARE:)
I absolutely felt harassed receiving these letters. I panicked and pointed it out to my wife at the time.
I worked in Credit for many years, mainly business to business. We had to be really careful in the wording of our letters to the extent that you cannot do something that causes alarm, distress, or threats. Equally, you could not suggest that legal action had been taken when it clearly hadn't. What the BBC do is the most basic form of bad practice that was stopped many years ago, i. e. harassment and harm. If you've had one of these letters, flag it to them, keep all correspondence and litigate.
If you can afford to!
I had it out with TV Licensing about this very thing at my last property. I said they were harassing me and I repeatedly asked to be moved from their mailing list. They said that in order to stop the letters for the timebeing (only) I should go to their website and complete a declaration that I don't have a TV. But they reserved the right to enquire again in the future. So even if you comply with their "rules" they still won't leave you alone permanently.
The letters have just started at my new home so it's time to start the battle again.
I even said to them at one point that the DVLA do not write letters to every house in the land to threaten people and accuse them of potentially driving without a licence, so what gives TV licensing the right to do that?
I think it's time we all get together and take them on as a group. Happy to get involved in co-ordinating something
After a quick glance to make sure I haven’t won something, (what?! It could happen!) I toss any letters addressed to “The Occupier” in the bin…. Harassment over.
@@longjonwhite That French bloke had to leave because of that.... Theo C. Cupier went back to Nice.
Stop engaging with them. Full stop.
It's not a battle. Just ignore them. They are impotent
@@MichelleMcDines count me in
I have colleagues who have advised that they do not require a tv license who still get harassed. I ignore them now.
Just wait until they send the Spirit of Jimmy Savile around!
Jimmy, you give them all your weirdo letters.
"Ow's about that then guys and girls oOoOoOoO!"
He is why I don’t pay my tv licence..
@@LisaKLivlaughlove
Jingle jangle jewellery Euheuhehue
If only there was a laughing Emoji :)
Thank you for raising this issue. I have not had a television for over 20 years. I have been subject to a series of threatening letters. Eventually I yielded and wrote back to them confirming that I did not have need for a licence. It seemed so inappropriate. I do not see why I should share my details with someone I do not have a business relationship. I would certainly support a class action against this organisation.
You folded
@@MikeEves folding would be paying for the licence
I got this letter addessed to the 'legal occupier'. One was already there when I moved in, another one with another 10-day window arrived a few days later.
It definitely generates a sense of harrassment, which prompted me to try and declare a 'dont need a license' but the website then continues to pressure you into believing that you need one. (see declare questionnaire). Now I just feel helpless. I want this to stop so I can live in peace which is my right, no? Im neurodiverse.
We have terminated our TV licence and we have no dialogue with the BBC or their TV licencing officers. I recently had one of their officers knock on our door and on identifying himself I said "no thank you" and closed the door. I advise no communications with these bullies. Period.
Calling them an officer is very generous. More like a entitled salesman
Agreed. Spot on. Nothing more than a door to door salesman. If we realize and remember this, they have zero intimidation effect.
I notified TV Licensing that I did not require a licence and received acknowledgment. However I have been receiving these letters for months and months. Apart from the unpleasantness of their tone I am mortified with embarassment that the local post workers and regular postman who, in a rural area, is known to the neighbourhood, get to see these letters which have a window showing text that implies I am some kind of criminal. Maybe it's generational thing but as an elderly law abiding lady, I find this humiliating and unreasonable.
I don't think anyone will think ill of you. In general people know the score with TV Licensing and will attach no significance to these letters.
It is a deliberate and disgraceful ploy.
Postal workers are not at all influenced
or persuaded by such tactics.
Ask yourself, what other organisation dares to disrespect the public in such a way in order to raise funds? None!
Would you do such a despicable thing? No!
Therefore, the BBC is contemptible and beneath you.
Dear old Auntie Beeb excels at pretence, all the while
abusing its audience & society in general, in any which
way it chooses.
It is they who rightfully should be mortified, embarrassed, humiliated and recognise their unreasonableness.
But they don't! Instead, they persist in employing strong-armed methods to extort money.
BBC licence fee revenue for 2023, £3.4 Billion.
BBC total income for 2023 ~ £5.7 Billion.
Respectfully:
Three thousand,four hundred Million pounds.
Five thousand, seven hundred Million pounds.
Year after Year after Year after Year . . . . .
How much more do they want?
And what for, exactly?
Why on earth would you declare you don't do something. Absurd
I don't have a tv, don't watch brit Tv, and told them, but still letters kept coming. I ignored them. Then one day an actual tv guy turned up. It was hugely annoying. I knew I didn't have to let him in, but just to get these people out my face, I let him in to show him I had no tv, although I did have a pc which I expressed had no BBC i player or whatever its called. They haven't bothered me since. Still annoys me, I don't like people snooping in my home cos they won't believe me.
@MartinOReilly-mb4um It is indeed insulting. My offer to TV Licensing was that I was legally without a licence and they were welcome to inspect the situation for themselves at any time. However my fee for the inconvenience and degree of intrusion involved would be £35. They seemed unwilling to comply with that. Too bad; I offered them the opportunity.
The letter I received asks me if I'm going to be in on 25th December (large blue across the top)
Has a red "stamp" at the bottom "enforcement visit approved" with a signature.
"Our officers visit an address every 10 seconds. Day. evening. Even weekends"
It is blatantly scare tactics.
Haha I received the same letter. Makes me laugh
@Bridenal yeah, even though I know deep down the letters mean nothing, being housebound & just me, adds that feeling of "what if they actually turn up" 😬
I stopped buying a licence about 5 years ago. I filled in the online form and was acknowledged. 3 years later I started getting these letters so I filled it in again and was acknowledged again. They have started again, first by two separate visits. I told them I did need a license. I then started recieving letters so I posted one back writing on the envelope not needed. The letters kept coming saying that I am under investigation. I ignored these but I have kept them. They are aggressive and in red ink. I'm waiting for the day a law firm take the BBC to court over this harassment. I don't watch live TV or iPlayer.
its a data mining tactic they want to you keep putting in your data to "check" when all they do is mine data and sell them on. bbc is a vile company.
Same here. My tv aerial blew up in a storm in 2020 (thank goodness) and my family have not had tv since. (wonderful to miss out on all those brainwashing press conferences with Bojo). I registered online with Tv licencing that I did not need a licence and they largely left me alone until this year when I have received repeat threatening letters from them despite me registering again that I do not need a licence. I got yet another red letter yesterday. Is some computer spilling them out uncontrollably?
Yes@@SylviaLaidlow-Petersen
The problem is that now with internet they just have your word really cause you can watch live tv everywhere. I'm not saying people do it, I'm saying that them visiting your house makes no sense. What they should do is enforce companies to add a feature for uk residents that automatically disable any live content that's broadcasted by a tv network for people who declare they don't have a licence. But to have that burden on companies like Google / UA-cam etc. isn't fair so the next logical step is to do what Netflix and all other services do and go the subscription route
@VirtualDarKness the license fee is only required by the BBC.
All other UK networks are paid for by advertising, so why would they care about unpaid licenses? It would be very easy for providers to lock BBC content behind a pay wall and require a passkey forming the valid license number, done.
I dislike letters like this because I know that if I use language and threats like this I’d have the police knocking on my door for harassment. Why should it be any different for Capita/BBC? So how about you taking a collection of pro-bono cases for harassment and totally reaming out the BBC? You should be able to collect a few dozen and after winning one, using that judgement for every other case. Maybe with a few hundred of these cases you could collect a few million in the way of fees. As a byproduct, maybe you could also launch a private prosecution against these unpleasant organisations.
Ultimately It's extortion with threats and menaces, and those who have paid up when they have no need to (because they don't watch live TV etc) have been extorted.
@@Dylstardeluxdefrauded could also apply .
Yes I have had a threatening letter like this from TV Licensing - you then have difficulty getting through to them on the phone............it is a frightening experience.
Thank you for this information it is very helpful. People should not be harassed like this.
When I cancelled my tv licence 3 months ago I called them and told them I no longer watch tv spoke to a very nice lady on the phone she asked me why I don't watch tv any more I said there is nothing worth watching I do not want to watch reality shows and also I was disgusted at what huw Edwards and done and no way was I going to support the BBC anymore and she did say in a years time I might get someone on my doorstep wanting to check and I said good luck with that one never heard from them so far
She was probably trying to get you to contradict your claim that you did not need a licence. Never, even, engage with them. It is not their business why you do anything.
My son is in first year of University in halls of residence, every flat (without a license registered to that flat) is receiving threatening letters from BBC enforcement. Given the majority of 18 year old students don't watch live TV, mostly Netflix and youtube. And if they do watch live TV on a device (laptop, iPad or phone) so long as it's not plugged into the mains at the time, the license at their parents address includes this use.
Unfortunately, I get panic phone calls every time one of these letters arrive as the letters are threatening, and do exactly what they are intended to do - scare the students. My son wants me to buy him a license so he doesn't have to worry - I used to work at the BBC and now I'm ashamed of the BBC and these tactics
Yea, they definitely go hard for the young students who don't know anything.
I would tell your son to watch Chillie John Carne and blackbelt barister for education on the subject so he does not need to worry. Getting a license only gives in to the bullying.
so a doorbell camera and a shredder :)
Son at uni gets regular letters and has had 2 visits. He's well versed not to speak to them, nothing good will come of it.
As others suggest, tell him to watch ChilliJonCarne on here.
The letters are from the private company Capita, they are not from the BBC. Capita was awarded the exclusive contract by a previous conservative government. The BBC have little, if any, say whatsoever over the entire process.
Gives me so much anxiety. I don't need a licence cause who watches live TV! They have the audacity to tell me to contact them and tell them I don't need need one and still harass me every few months.
They have sent these to my Father. He has been dead for two years. Can’t wait for them to call.
I once cancelled a TV licence and moved out but still they took me to court for not paying 😂 at the address I wasn't living at. Ridiculous. A total waste of resources and court time.
These look nearly exactly like bailiff letters too. If you’re dealing with a bailiff at the same time this adds monumental stress of only on opening.
I got 6 of these in the month our declaration that we weren’t watching TV expired. We told them at the time we weren’t using TV and would tell them IF that changed.
Hey it's Scott Robson! He's a busy bee! He's been my local enforcement officer for about 8 years - in every hours I've ever owned - from London to Norfolk to Yorkshire.
My late mother had a black and white TV and when it died, she bought another one because she was honest amd bought a license-but for a b&w TV- because she couldn't afford a colour one. (I offered to buy it for her but she refused). They harassed her because they couldn't believe she was watching a b&w TV. She ended up having a massive heart attack and even after we buried her, they still sent letters.
I had a situation like that once. It really is like they can't believe anyone still had a B/W tv.
I feel totally harassed...Years of monthly threatening letters....
Twice I've been online and told them that I don't have or watch a TV.....but the letters keep coming, with worsening threats of investigations, visits, inspections, police search warrants etc.
They are harassing me
If you contact the BBC and fill in the form saying that you don't need a tv licence you have to tick a box saying you don't watch u tube, if you don't tick this box you are informed that you do need a tv licence, which of course is rubbish.
Don't contact the bbc whatsoever
Like a finding out someone you know is a psychopath. No contact ever.
They can not even check your pc or mobile phone they can only check tv equipment so are screw with that one
I got one and we all laughed and quite frankly treated the letter the same as all the others, straight in the bin. If I don't have a car do I have to tell DVLA I don't need insurance or to pay road tax? No, so why does the BBC think I need to tell them I don't watch TV or need a licence. I have been receiving letters for over three years and never had a visit or felt alarmed. I don't watch live TV.
Spot on, but I've had 4 visits over 20 years of not having a TV. The licensing officers are pleasant enough so long as you know they have no right to enter your house without a warrant. No need to give your name either. Then shut the door and enjoy the BBC's / Capita's failed high-pressure tactics.
They did a sneaky visit from me under the false pretences of a government survey about the arts. I was working at the time so said I don't have time but try my neighbours. When they said it was me specifically cos of my circumstances and were really keen to book another time I got suspicious and politely asked them to leave. I researched the questionnaire online to find it did exist but some of the "watching TV" questions were too specifically worded to be coincidence. Be wary as they don't always turn up as TV Licensing!
I DON'T GO FISHING, I DON'T HAVE A DOG, I DON'T GO SHOOTING, no one asks if i need a licence for any of these so why should the British Bias Company? shame on you TV licensing.!!!
Just a quick note, road tax hasn't existed for years, roadworks is supposed to come from council tax now, I believe.
@@blunderingfool it's one of those things that just gets called the wrong name all the time, like Adrenaline Junkies and Radiators, they don't exist either
There’s no law stating that you have got to talk to Capita or the BBC or the TV license Board. So basically when their GOONS come knocking at your door, you are not oblige to answer the door. If you do answer the door, just ask them who are you and when they say “I am from the tv license company “ just reply “ Sorry but no thank you “ then shut the door.
One letter was only the start of it!
Did you get to milk a cow blindfolded?
Now you done it didn't fix for you.
I had a letter to ask if I would be in on the 19 December, yes I will I can't wait😂
😂😂
I suggest some booby traps,😊 but they won't visit you!
Normally, no one turns up.
I had that one, they didn't show. It's probably another letter that gets close the harassment come to think of it.
When they fail to turn up, give them a call and tell them you took the day off work.
Yes I feel harassed, 10 years of these letters. I don’t have the time or inclination to respond. I just wish they would stop sending their threats.
Thank you for your great information, which helped give me confidence to cancel my licence, which I did the other day by filling in the on-line form. On my phone and my tablet it wouldn't let me fill in the licence number, but my son in law managed it on his phone. I'm nearing 70 years old and in poor health, so hoping I don't get this kind of harassment for staying within the law. Thanks again
Why did you even need to do that ? You do not need to communicate with them AT ALL. Just cancel your DD or just don't purchase one. There is no real concept of "canceling" a license: you either have one or you don't.
Bad luck Martha. They absolutely WILL continue to harass you I’m afraid.
You are an inspiration. I'm of a similar age and will give it a try myself. I've long lost faith in TV.
If you do please let your son in law deal with it. If they send you letters again , write the date on them and give them to him. Don't worry If someone rings your door bell and you don't expect anyone , don't open the door. If you decide to ask who is at your door, do it through the closed door or a window and if it would be those tv licence ppl, just say politely no thank you I don't need one (you officialy cancelled it because you don't need a tv licence). Dont have discussions ith them. Again inform your son in law to deal with it. Let him inform Black Belt Barrister. He may be able to sue them for haressment for you and others in the future.
Have a very 🎄Merry Christmas ✨🎀with your family Marta🎄☃🎄🎁🎄
Just to re-iterate others - if you do get a visit , do not engage in conversation with them and under no circumstances sign anything. You have no obligation to talk to them and they have no right of entry.
It is outrageous that we need a BBC TV Licence to watch live material supplied by others!
I threw my TV out seven years ago and I still get these letters every few months. I always tell people just to renew their statement these letters always look terrifying.
Not paid tv licence for 6 years. Never open any letters and never answer the door to unwanted guests. Bingo!
Why not just go to the website and complete the declaration that you don't need a licence ?
I know people who don’t have have never paid them, you can open the letters or do what you want as they don’t mean anything useless you’re stupid enough to have given them your name.
I wish more people knew what a long running scam this is by the BBC, but they prey on the uninformed and gullible people (usually elderly).
They have been making close to 4 billion a year with the TV licence scam.
At least people seem to be catching on more now, so there is some positive.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 Because you don't have to.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 Because you are engaging with them by doing that. Complete silence and ignorance is your friend.
You don’t have to and if you do, then they’ll have your name and will continue to harass you.
To start with, its address to the 'legal occupier', in other words, they dont have an individual to attempt to prosecute. All they have is an address noted without a license. No named individuals, nor evidence of any actual offence. Bin it!
Why on earth would I need a tv licence to watch UA-cam or Amazon Prime, none of the licence fee goes to them.
You don’t for you tube , don’t know about amazon prime , as long as you are not watching live tv on any channel, you don’t need a licence
You don't need a licence for any streaming site, except BBC iPlayer. That's the only one.
@ I have received a letter from tv licensing, stating that I do need a licence to watch UA-cam or Amazon Prime along with all the mainstream channels.
Thankyou for this Dan, it means a lot when you says it’s on the verge of harrassment, as a barrister you have a fair view, so coming from you is very important!
Love you Dan 🌹♥️🌹♥️🌹♥️
If I received this letter it would go straight in the bin!
I don't open them anymore. That's exactly what happens
I will be sharing this episode with my sister who has got stack of these letters and showed me because it was beginning to get her stressed. 🙏🏻
Yep I haven't had a TV for probably over 30 Years. I still get all the letters! Even after filling in the not needed thing on their website. I return to Sender their Letters now, because I'm so fed up with them. Strangely they have not come to visit though.
Chalk your reply on a piece of slate...nice and substantial..who says you've got to use paper?
In 10 days absolutely nothing will happen!
Oh! it will! On the 25th, an enforcement officer will drop down your chimney, dressed in red, and nick your biscuits and milk while checking to see if you have been watching live TV. or am I confusing them with someone else?
I’ve had 4 of these letters in the last 6 months. I just laugh at how desperate the wording is. The first letter had very different wording, and each letter since has progressively gotten more threatening, and now apparently I have an officer coming to my door at a random date. Mongs
I’ve been getting those letters for many years. Not watched live tv for about 30 years now. I did once have an agent come to my door and I let him in because although I did have a monitor to play games on and to watch my own DVDs it was clearly not connected to an aerial or set up to watch live tv in any way. The agent lied and I was taken to court. I was furious and eventually won my case. Since I’ve moved, I still get letters addressed to the resident. I laugh and throw them straight in the bin. If they came to my door, they most certainly will not be let in and I will be telling them why. If they persist and get some kind of warrant, I will take them to court for harassment for sure. They really have got a nerve.
Its abuse of process. It cannot be harassment in a claim..due to privilege of process
Until recently, if you had a device capable of displaying live tv, you needed a licence. But now you don’t necessarily need a licence just because you have a tv…
@ that can’t be right. I checked at the time, I’m sure of it. I won my case so I must be right.
@@richardkelly9156 not quite sure what you mean Richard. I’m not making any claim for harassment. I’m just ignoring them because I don’t watch live tv. I’m sure if I opened the letters it would stress me out, due to their obnoxious wordings, but I don’t open the envelope. It’s just put straight in the bin.
@@hArtyTruffle CPS are wrong all the time
When we moved into our new house 11 years ago we received our first letter which we responded to.
Two years later we received another letter which we ignored, apparently on average people move house every two years, this is why we were sent another letter. We did nothing with it. For the next two or three years we received a letter every two weeks which I filed away for the day the came to visit us, they never came. We got so fed up that we finally advised them that a license was not required. the letters stopped for about two years but just this month we received another letter, so I have sent it back “return to sender” unopened and “no change” written on the envelope. We have certainly be harassed,,!
I have anxiety and if I got this letter, I think that would be the end of me. This is absolutely disgusting threatening or pensioners.🇬🇧