In the mid-70's, I started running through Newcastle (seen in several of these at the depot) for BN. Back then, there was no over-pass for the highway. The semi's hauling fuel used to cross the tracks right there at the depot. There were so many times we almost hit fuel liners going through there. I was a very young man then....but, the fear of that crossing aged the shit out of me in a hurry.
On the locals, we used to have to switch out cars there at the west switch by the crossing. I would be using a fusee to attempt to stop traffic....and the fuel trucks would totally ignore me and almost run me over. They did NOT want to be stopped at the crossing. Several times, I literally threw my lit fusee at their windshield on the truck. It was NOT funny stuff.
Take note of two things, Luck was with you during the making of this video. You were able to find two lese Super 7's and one of C&NW special logo GE's. IN addition, the main reason for why the C&NW coal train at 3:31 had it's lead Dash 8's door opened was that half of them and half of BN's SD60M's didn't come equipped with air conditioning. So crews often left the front door's opened for ventilation.
The LMX Dash8s back then were super common, and the CNW AC44s with the "special logo" as you put it, isnt special at all. All of CNW's 35 AC44s had the Operation lifesaver loco. (CNW 8801-8835)
@@Railroadfan5383 Thanks. B.T.W. those LMX dash 8'S as you described are actually GECX Super 7 rebuilts. When I mentioned the C&NW special logo GE, I was actually taking about their last C40-8 delivered in 1991.
North American freight trails are really impressive, 'specially to a Brit. like me. That big loading gauge really allows for seriously big locomotives. (Ours have to fit the C1 loading gauge which is really a bit too small). Looking forward to coming over and seeing the Big Boy in the flesh when UP have restored X4014. What a great gesture. Don't ask me to describe how magnificent Big Boys are. (There just aren't adequate words available for it in the English language.)
Train at 1:00 I noticed something. The coal cars are marked with RWSX reporting marks. The loco is an NS SD70. The RWSX is a power plant in Western Georgia, in which coal they run over NS track. Looks like UP/CNW was probably going to drop them off to NS
Thanks so much for such a quality video. All those engines, all those paint jobs !!! Utterly fascinating. Green was never a favorite. And yet BN always seemed to be the best looking.
@stellarartwars07 Yes, most British coal trains consist of 2000 tons gross, east European or Australian coal hauled by a single Class 66 EMD JT42CWR. The track layouts do not allow for longer trains.
Generally Horsepower per ton is around 1 to 1.5. Back in the day, these trains required 4-5 SD40-2's and or C30-7's for the grades between the mines and Alliance, NE.
Good old days before union pacific and BNSF took over. It gets kind of boring when all you see is just one big railroad I would love to see those days.
Trains should always use their horn. Especially in urban areas. In urban areas, more people tresspass and do stupid things. By removing the horn, you remove the engineer's most import safety mechanism (to people off of the train). The horn is also used for communication between the engineer and brakeman/conductor if needed or to warn any railroad workers near the tracks. And personally, I think horns sound cool. Besides, you moved near the trains, they didn't move to you. You'll get used to it.
Great Video. I can tell this video is from the mid 1990s right before santa fe and Burlington northern merged and union pacific and southern pacific merged. Today most of those trains are pulled by the orange BNSF GEVOS AND AC4400S and UNION PACIFIC LOCOMOTIVES. I Love this video.
good stuff... this was when there was a interesting mix of power... the older gen C30s mixed with the then NEW dash 9s and everything in between... just a nice mixture of old/new... now it's just kind of "meh", all wide cabs, blah blah blah
when i was a kid i use 2 go dwn 2 the milwaukee road & chicago & northwestern depots all the time. they were a block apart & sometimes the milwaukee road guys would let me ride in the cab 4 the day. those were the days
@Rocketboy1950 Er, I meant the coal is Australian, not the trains. Margaret Thatcher began the process of shutting down British coal mines to reduce the power of the unions. Now we import coal. The main advantage of larger trains is fewer crew per ton. There are a lot of passenger trains in the UK and so it is not worth changing things to make freight a bit cheaper.
From memory, ditch lights have been a legal requirement since 1992. So BN should have had ditch lights on pretty much all its locomotives before the 1995 merger. (Technically, as I recall, it's not literally _required_ to have ditch lights, but a train whose lead locomotive doesn't have ditch lights is restricted to something like 20mph through grade crossings, and the Class Is really don't want to be running their trains at 20mph.)
@@CVisionProductions1 that's cool(no pun instead) If I was a secondary driver/engineer I would go on the railing in front or sides to take a video of the beautiful views I see
2:50 Wow, I'm surprised that those barely-visible strobe were legal as ditch lights. I'm actually pretty surprised to see that. BN, historically, had a problem with their locomotives being hard to see, and the whole point of the "whiteface" paint scheme was to make the front-end of the locomotive more visible. So it's bizarre that, having gone to all that effort to make this locomotive more visible, they've put such terrible ditch lights on it.
Look at 1:38, watch that General Electric lead unit fish tale/blubber around as it goes over the east switch. I HATED my time in those bastards as they did this so often on rough or not even rough track. It was unnerving to have that 200 ton loco do that crap. That steel platform would do that side shimmy really quite hard. They would do that when in dynamic brake on long downhill curves in the winter when it was -20 F. And, you NEVER knew when that rail might crack or bust apart. The experience of that always made my tailpipe pucker!
Wow. Great perspective on the ride of those engines. I never knew they were that bad. Neat to take video of, but obviously horrible to ride in. Thank you for sharing!
hi there! im making a christmas video for my dad who is obsessed with trains and im using clips i find on youtube. do you mind if i use this one? Let me know! thanks!
@TheDylanJoyce I'd love to have a coal-burning fireplace again. I love the look and the smell, and it keeps the house nice and toasty. Great fuel, coal.
I noticed about 3 or more style of coal cars in this video, some old models and some new one that look like the top of the car was covered are they trying to do away with the old style of coal cars? some of the trains had five units on the front was all of the units powered up and pulling or was they powered up as needed? Thanks for an out standing video.
I don't get why heavy coal routes in usa are not electrified. In Europe Alpen routes are electrified to enable running heavy trains uphill, sweden uses IORE for heavy iron ore routes as do many other railroads with they heavy freight. Why in USA multi (4 or more) diesel units are used instead?
It easier to use multiple units then to use electricity from above because you just couldn't generate enough electricity that's required to move all the tonnage and diesel LOCOMOTIVES make their own electricity on board so in a way trains are electrified just not from overhead wires.
In the mid-70's, I started running through Newcastle (seen in several of these at the depot) for BN. Back then, there was no over-pass for the highway. The semi's hauling fuel used to cross the tracks right there at the depot. There were so many times we almost hit fuel liners going through there. I was a very young man then....but, the fear of that crossing aged the shit out of me in a hurry.
Wow! Thanks for sharing! That is one of my favorite spots to watch trains. I haven't been there for 13 years, but I hope to return soon.
On the locals, we used to have to switch out cars there at the west switch by the crossing. I would be using a fusee to attempt to stop traffic....and the fuel trucks would totally ignore me and almost run me over. They did NOT want to be stopped at the crossing. Several times, I literally threw my lit fusee at their windshield on the truck. It was NOT funny stuff.
I love anything that has to do with transportation but trains have always been my first love.
Same here....same here
Exactly.
Trains and trucks
Trains, Planes & Boats for me.
Mines too
That C&NW is real heritage units & I gotta love EMD SD40-2 Short/Long Nose & GE Dash 8-40C.
Now these are good looking engines. One person thought something was wrong with me for saying that Amtrak engines were ugly.
Awesome video It's sad to see that the Coil keep going down hill!!
and I love the BN and the CNW!!!
Take note of two things, Luck was with you during the making of this video. You were able to find two lese Super 7's and one of C&NW special logo GE's. IN addition, the main reason for why the C&NW coal train at 3:31 had it's lead Dash 8's door opened was that half of them and half of BN's SD60M's didn't come equipped with air conditioning. So crews often left the front door's opened for ventilation.
The LMX Dash8s back then were super common, and the CNW AC44s with the "special logo" as you put it, isnt special at all. All of CNW's 35 AC44s had the Operation lifesaver loco. (CNW 8801-8835)
@@Railroadfan5383 Thanks. B.T.W. those LMX dash 8'S as you described are actually GECX Super 7 rebuilts. When I mentioned the C&NW special logo GE, I was actually taking about their last C40-8 delivered in 1991.
Love Trains
Oh wow
lol
10 years later my guy
Same
12 years later my guy
North American freight trails are really impressive, 'specially to a Brit. like me. That big loading gauge really allows for seriously big locomotives. (Ours have to fit the C1 loading gauge which is really a bit too small). Looking forward to coming over and seeing the Big Boy in the flesh when UP have restored X4014. What a great gesture. Don't ask me to describe how magnificent Big Boys are. (There just aren't adequate words available for it in the English language.)
It is a f-ing lot bigger than anything I get to see!
***** The earth doesn't move or make the same noises a train does.
earth: 1 train: 23435443
*****
Like the 'noises' comment. I hope to hear a volcano one day.... but it's not going to happen in Surrey, UK!
I can't enjoy them if I can't hear them.
Trains are meant to be heard.
No, and if your going to insult me make sure you can spell.
I miss the burlington northern and the C&NW. I do still have an AHM C&NW SW1 and a Tyco Burlington Northern GP20!
NO tier 1,2, or 3 emissions locos in this video. LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!
Those C30-7's were beasts. Wouldnt mind getting the entire show
love the horn and paint on 9234
Me too! Miss the days of pure BN!
If you really like this preview, you are sure to like the whole video on DVD! Look for Wyoming Coal Trains on our web site at www.cvptrains.com!
For 5 minutes and 31 seconds my son was not crying. He really loves trains.
Love Burlington Northern. My first h train set when I was a kid.
At about the 2:20 mark, those BN SD70MAC's right out of the box, sure looked sweet! Not too many got the flashing ditch lights either
remember yall,.......
"coal keeps the lights on"
and releases a shit ton of carbon dioxide.
and that is what "everyone" is worried about.
Train at 1:00 I noticed something. The coal cars are marked with RWSX reporting marks. The loco is an NS SD70. The RWSX is a power plant in Western Georgia, in which coal they run over NS track. Looks like UP/CNW was probably going to drop them off to NS
You must have a eagle eye for that LOL
Man, I wish BNSF still painted their engines with BN and Santa Fe colors, A rainbow fleet would be so cool to see.
I couldn't agree with you more!!
Nice variety of catches! Heavy loads!
Thank you! Even more in the full video of this title (also on UA-cam).
I remember getting them old BN ge units on coal trains to Detroit. Rough riders; good pullers!
And they sounded great too!! Thank you Roger!
Glad we got the full version on here.
I hope you enjoyed it!
Nice video. Raw power and giant size are always a winning combo.
Finally,The train video that raised me.After all these years!
Glad you found it! Thank you for returning to watch it again.
Those C30-7's were beast. My favorite of the Green Monster
Lovely shots
Thanks so much for such a quality video. All those engines, all those paint jobs !!! Utterly fascinating.
Green was never a favorite. And yet BN always seemed to be the best looking.
+Ted Cartwright Love the BN Cascade Green. I wonder if they have all been repainted or scrapped?
@@alcampbell6832 still some here in the Pacific Northwest, mostly switchers though
I live in wyoming and see these coal trains every day. We have so much coal you could supply all the coal used in the USA for a 1000 years.
Born and raised there. Over 200 trains at any givin time of the day. You get used to hearing locomotives and horns.
Looks great Chris!! Nice to see action from BN and CNW!!
I remember watching this as a toddler. Up until now; an older me. Man those good ol’ days!
Wow! Thank you for the story!!! I hope you still enjoy watching it!
@stellarartwars07 Yes, most British coal trains consist of 2000 tons gross, east European or Australian coal hauled by a single Class 66 EMD JT42CWR. The track layouts do not allow for longer trains.
I remember watching this as a kid
me too
@the Florida railfann and gamer SAME
Me two year old and I are watching this video right now..she loves it!
wow back when BN SD70MAC's and BN sd40-2's and sd60m's had strobe and flashing ditch lights!! and some with no ditch lights like the BN C30-7's!!!!!!
But the MMA upgraded the ex BN C30-7s with ditch lights
If this was filmed before, during or after March of 1996, ditch lights were not mandated by the FRA until the end of 1997 I believe.
I love this video!!!
I always watched this video when I was a kid
Thank you! I appreciate your comments!
Me Too When I Saw This I Was Just A We Lad I Rewatched Over & Over Again Because Of The Shots The Locomotives Hard At Work
Great video in this one. Thanks for sharing
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
1:20 FIVE locomotives!! I wonder if the number of locomotives on a train line determines how long the line of cars is?
Generally Horsepower per ton is around 1 to 1.5. Back in the day, these trains required 4-5 SD40-2's and or C30-7's for the grades between the mines and Alliance, NE.
I like our shooting style! I learned some cool things here!
almost to 2M views. Great job!
Thank you!!! It is a great honor!
Good old days before union pacific and BNSF took over. It gets kind of boring when all you see is just one big railroad I would love to see those days.
Me three.
Brilliant production. Most enjoyable viewing
3:31 is my favorite making the fast CNW Coal train
Thank you! We now have the full length video available on our page.
CNW always seemed to have the best horns on their engines
great video lots learned thanks for the hard time and efort I injoyed the video added it to my favorits and playlists. great video
I watch this when I was like 4 years old wow
Thank you for watching again!!!
Thanks for a very good video a lot of trains. some good scenery too. Thanks
Sweet BN SD60M Strobe ditch lights!
I'm sorry about the "dislikes"! My baby was pushing buttons. He actually loved this video!
Very nice footage, thanks.
Trains should always use their horn. Especially in urban areas. In urban areas, more people tresspass and do stupid things. By removing the horn, you remove the engineer's most import safety mechanism (to people off of the train). The horn is also used for communication between the engineer and brakeman/conductor if needed or to warn any railroad workers near the tracks. And personally, I think horns sound cool. Besides, you moved near the trains, they didn't move to you. You'll get used to it.
Great Video. I can tell this video is from the mid 1990s right before santa fe and Burlington northern merged and union pacific and southern pacific merged. Today most of those trains are pulled by the orange BNSF GEVOS AND AC4400S and UNION PACIFIC LOCOMOTIVES. I Love this video.
Cool trains well filmed. Thumbs up! :)
Absolute amazing
Thank you!!!
Cool train video
Dunkirk NewYork Thanks! www.cvptrains.com
If this is in '95, when did the FRA start requiring a majority of road trains that wanted to go in excess of 20mph to have ditch (auxiliary) lights?
1997
Nice and steady!
I never thought I'd see my 2nd favorite locomotive. NS #2505
good stuff... this was when there was a interesting mix of power... the older gen C30s mixed with the then NEW dash 9s and everything in between... just a nice mixture of old/new... now it's just kind of "meh", all wide cabs, blah blah blah
I so agree with you! It just isn't the same today as it was in the BN/CNW era. Thank you for your comments!
god I miss ridin freight trains... love that sound.....
Nice SD60M triclops at 2:47
magnifique locomotive très belle vidéo merci éric de france
when i was a kid i use 2 go dwn 2 the milwaukee road & chicago & northwestern depots all the time. they were a block apart & sometimes the milwaukee road guys would let me ride in the cab 4 the day. those were the days
@Rocketboy1950 Er, I meant the coal is Australian, not the trains. Margaret Thatcher began the process of shutting down British coal mines to reduce the power of the unions. Now we import coal.
The main advantage of larger trains is fewer crew per ton. There are a lot of passenger trains in the UK and so it is not worth changing things to make freight a bit cheaper.
BN 9234 has little strobe lights on the cab never seen that before
WOW!!!! I never new that Burlinton Northern used ditchlights on there units before the BNSF merger! I thought it was just a CSX thing!!!
From memory, ditch lights have been a legal requirement since 1992. So BN should have had ditch lights on pretty much all its locomotives before the 1995 merger. (Technically, as I recall, it's not literally _required_ to have ditch lights, but a train whose lead locomotive doesn't have ditch lights is restricted to something like 20mph through grade crossings, and the Class Is really don't want to be running their trains at 20mph.)
Wyoming coal trains .. almost as long as BC coal trains by the CPR.
Impressive shot at 3:11- 3:31 ..
@princenoah21 Yes, I believe all of the new ones do now.
I miss the CNW days.
As do I. Big time! Thank you for your comments.
Holy crap! A C30-S7 @4:30!
4:30
I have 5 videos from you guys and they are all great. I was also wandering what happend to the original narrator like the one in this vid
Nice Video
Thanks
Superb video
Like the best BN locomotives today and now this is BNSF as BN + ATSF = BNSF based railroad made history.
3:31 i wonder why the front door to the cab is open?
Those locomotives did not come with air conditioning as far as I remember. So the crews occasionally would open the door for ventilation.
@@CVisionProductions1 that's cool(no pun instead)
If I was a secondary driver/engineer I would go on the railing in front or sides to take a video of the beautiful views I see
Nice work. If I wasn't so lazy I would be marketing DVD's myself. Hardly worth the trouble with the much smaller audience down under.
2:50 Wow, I'm surprised that those barely-visible strobe were legal as ditch lights. I'm actually pretty surprised to see that. BN, historically, had a problem with their locomotives being hard to see, and the whole point of the "whiteface" paint scheme was to make the front-end of the locomotive more visible. So it's bizarre that, having gone to all that effort to make this locomotive more visible, they've put such terrible ditch lights on it.
Yeah, they were pretty weak. But soon changed to the full ditch lights a couple years later.
I remember this video a long time ago
Now we have the full length version up on our UA-cam page! I hope you enjoy it again!
Great moving footage
It looks amazing!
Great vídeo
Thank you!!! Glad you enjoyed it!
BN is now the BNSF, and CNW was absorbed by the UP!
Look at 1:38, watch that General Electric lead unit fish tale/blubber around as it goes over the east switch. I HATED my time in those bastards as they did this so often on rough or not even rough track. It was unnerving to have that 200 ton loco do that crap.
That steel platform would do that side shimmy really quite hard. They would do that when in dynamic brake on long downhill curves in the winter when it was -20 F. And, you NEVER knew when that rail might crack or bust apart. The experience of that always made my tailpipe pucker!
Wow. Great perspective on the ride of those engines. I never knew they were that bad. Neat to take video of, but obviously horrible to ride in. Thank you for sharing!
Video looks great. BN is my favorite railroad all time.
Question: Is different footage used for this and the "Newcastle' video?
Yes, it is. Sorry it took so long to reply.
I don't know - I just clicked on one clip months ago, and now UA-cam is recommending Burlington Northern clip after Burlington Northern clip for me.
Here in South Florida, they have a quiet zone. Wish I could help do something about it...
Great video. Liked it.
I FINALLY FOUND THIS VIDEO!!
Glad you found it! I hope you enjoyed it!
@woodscritter Yes, I meant exactly what you wrote. Multiple units working like one big locomotive with one control station and brigade.
Awesome videos :)
hi there! im making a christmas video for my dad who is obsessed with trains and im using clips i find on youtube. do you mind if i use this one? Let me know! thanks!
@TheDylanJoyce I'd love to have a coal-burning fireplace again. I love the look and the smell, and it keeps the house nice and toasty. Great fuel, coal.
I noticed about 3 or more style of coal cars in this video, some old models and some new one that look like the top of the car was covered are they trying to do away with the old style of coal cars? some of the trains had five units on the front was all of the units powered up and pulling or was they powered up as needed? Thanks for an out standing video.
Nice BN lash up
I don't get why heavy coal routes in usa are not electrified. In Europe Alpen routes are electrified to enable running heavy trains uphill, sweden uses IORE for heavy iron ore routes as do many other railroads with they heavy freight. Why in USA multi (4 or more) diesel units are used instead?
It easier to use multiple units then to use electricity from above because you just couldn't generate enough electricity that's required to move all the tonnage and diesel LOCOMOTIVES make their own electricity on board so in a way trains are electrified just not from overhead wires.
NS 2505! omg that loco is awesome.
god do i miss that old burlington northern paint scheme!
I like that 5 engine lash up
0:11 1:55 3:12 im still trying 2 find what trains those r
Anyone got ideas
That’s the SD70MAC. You are welcome
Thx