Yes and only at the low cost of the same amount of gas used to get a full pound of metal melted. You wasting time and money by remelting slag. It’s not like by throwing it away it kills the environment. It’s a nature found compound. Just aluminum
@@metalcastingguyormatt.1461 While you may be using the same amount of gas to get less pure salvageable metal. There is something to be said for reusing what you already have. It takes time and resources to constantly have fresh metal to melt every single time. If you're doing ok financially and you have the time, then why not re-melt slag? Aluminum may be a natural product but why waste something if you don't have to? It's not like there is a major propane shortage at the moment. Not only that, but the metal industry in general has a long history and historical precedent of reusing and recycling metal.
@@metalcastingguyormatt.1461 Actually this is much more economical and environmentally friendly then refining ore into pure aluminum. You have no idea the time and energy and chemicals that goes into doing that. Recycling will always be a better option. Sure if you have access to lots of cheap or free scrap it might be cheaper than gas. But if you don’t and have to buy your aluminum then it is definitely worth it. You can’t actually buy aluminum at scrap prices in most places. You end up paying 10 times that at least. I’d happily pay 15-25 dollars just for a pound of aluminum. That’s really good pricing compared to what I have available to me locally. And unless you are going to buy it by the ton from China really good pricing compared to what you can find online too. Also if you just add slag to a bunch of metal you are already melting then it wastes no gas at all. It takes no more gas to melt slag then it does normal aluminum. Because you aren’t actually melting the slag it stays solid you are just melting the aluminum stuck to the slag. Melting a small amount in a large foundry is wasteful but if you have enough it wastes nothing.
It is - the outside of the house is the same, the tatoos are the same and he's got an aluminum Australia on his metal shelf - I think this is just an old Bigstack video.
Slags in Vegas , I was thinking your were going another route with this vid? oh well metal melting still gets the job done. I was glad there was a some molten metal under all that ,.well slag. Awesome little bars matey im loving those little cast iron molds. 👌😃
I dig your channel. I'm Dan, I've been working with metal my whole life. I was in business with my Father for many years owning and operating a bronze foundry for casting our artwork just outside of Price Utah. Just wanted to say that your channel is awesome and captivating and I'll be building a forge/furnace and doing some casting again along with the metal sculpture. Take care and keep having fun bro
Not bad there! all that Aluminium (Aluminum) from the dross is good going, I would have just thrown it into the scrap bin! Another great episode by ArtByAdrock and looking foward to next weeks episode. Keep it up mate, I think I would go Crazy without these videos!
Glad you enjoy 👍🏻 new projects in the works that should be super cool but I’ve been really busy and working long hours so I’m trying to get them done. 😉
@@ArtByAdrock I always enjoy the episodes you, BigstackD and Vegoil Guy Produce oh and how can I forget AlumiTube as well. I am hoping in a few months to set up my own with a small electric furnace hopefully making small bullion bars and selling for charity over here in the UK, and changing my channel name to Made-in-Wales.
@@ArtByAdrock Thank you and I will. at the moment I have been practising with the Smith little tourch melting E scrap and Copper, but I find that the tourch may a little to hot for aluminium (Aluminum)
That's actually how they smelt it industrially; they use cryolite, an aluminosilicate, and melt the alumina in it, then extract the molten aluminum metal from that. You want it all to melt down and not complex with more oxygen and turn into aluminum oxide again!
Nice. You should do another weapon. I've been doing several now that the printer is up and running. When I melted my Dross I got about 25% back, but, I Forgot to weigh it before I started. Had about 6lbs after it was remelted and about 2lbs of ingots I believe.
Love the videos Paul from Paul's garage tried a similar experiment but I can't remember what it was that he used to help him get more aluminium from the slag. It might be worth a look to see what he tried & if it might help you out in the future 🔮. Keep up the great work
I just throw slag into bucket of weak murratic acid. Then when no more reaction use baking soda to drop it out. And then no more oxidized aluminum so you can dry it and melt it k
Most of the material of that slag is just straight alumina, or aluminum oxide. Just need a stronger heat to melt it. Instead of trashing it, sell/give it to a metal recycling plant.
I cant wait till the rubber duck... metal duck vid and can we get another live stream soon? :) allso keep up the god work and i would love to see you do like a gold coin casting but thay would cost to much
I’m still working on it my friend. I’ve been sooo busy I haven’t had much time. I still need to create a model first and I’ve been working 12-14 hour days at my full time job so it’s taking away from my art but I’ll get there 👍🏻 you’ll be the first to know though 😉
From what i can see the amount recovered doesn't justify the cost. Here is a idea i been playing with for aluminum dross. Making a hydrogen generator by mixing the aluminum dross with sodium hydroxide it creates pure hydrogen gas. That gas can then be captured and compressed to be used for many projects and has real value. It could even fuel your furnace at faster higher heat.
@@XtreeM_FaiL that is part right but care must be taken if adding sodium hydroxide to aluminum dross/oxide. That reaction creates highly flammable hydrogen gas. If a vessel for collecting the hydrogen can be done hydrogen has a great many uses. I have a few ideas on a collection system just for this process. But i am still in the process of building my shop so as to have a place to do various projects.
Nice mingots (mini ingots). 👍 The mixed slag melt is going to be interesting. What's the best flux to use, so that the aluminum separates and the dross is mostly dry contaminants? I've tried the 20-mule stuff with mixed results.
@@minecraftfan3455 my understanding was that salt just makes an easier pour, with a poorer metal quality. Sdweeb has a mini course from Bob Puhaka on his channel. I'm pretty sure he said gas is the only way to really get the oxide to float up.
It sounds weird but I have been using regular table salt to aid in separating the slag from the aluminium. It takes the heavy slag like you appear to be getting and separates the aluminium so the slag is more powdery almost ash like and very light and crumbly once it cools. It doesn't take much table salt and it seems to work really well.
I add the salt near the end. I've tried at different points in the melt and it seems that at the end us the most effective. I melt a lot of pop cans and I gave run the slag through a second time (first time without salt) with salt and I can recover enough aluminium that it seems worth while to add the salt.
I have not tried borax yet as I am also experimenting with other aluminium sources. I just acquired a whole bunch of extrusions from many several different sources so it will be interesting to see how the different alloys behave.
I think you should do a rubber duck also! You said the slag was melting fast, I don't do anything like this, so how fast is fast? Like from the time you put the crucible in to when it's melted and you're pulling off the slag again? And then, do you think it'd make much difference if the slag you were going to re-melt, was almost like a powder? Like if you put it in a blender to make it as fine as possible? Just thoughts. I enjoy watching your videos!
You can take your dross and slap to metal yard they pay for it. There is usable material in it still but most home and small shop foundries cannot process it fully. Just like other scrap you get by the pound.
I cast a lot of lead bullets. Starting with clean ingots.Slag covers the top of the melt,scrape it off and it comes back. I save the slag and remelt much like you did but I add carbon to the melt. Sawdust is what I use. The carbon hooks up with the extra oxygen atom from the lead oxide and turns to C02 and floats away. I can reclaim some 75-80 % back as pure lead. I bet this will work with your Aluminum oxide in that slag.
I think carbon would add considerably to the porosity if any castings from aluminium. My understanding is that you want to avoid as much carbon (and hydrogen) as possible.
@@JointerMark True if you did a direct cast from slag to casting. But to make clean ingots it should work. In remelting any ingots for a final product I would use a flux and degaser prior to pouring
I would like a diamond shaped paperweight...lol 😅 Not like on a playing card. One that's in the actual shape of a gemstone. 💎 Maybe done in aluminum if that's the easiest metal to sand down. Just a bit smaller than the size of a balled up fist. I think you, BigstacksD and Veg oil guy should do it as a challenge. I believe all 3 of you have belt sanders so you guys should be able to sand all of the facets smooth and shiny along with the table on the top. If you look at an image of a diamond you'll see what's called the girdle which is a circular band around the widest part of a diamond. Again the image, from top to bottom would be the table, the crown(facets above the girdle)and the girdle itself next. Then below the girdle would be the pavillion which is longer facets that should come to a point or a tiny cut(called a culet)at the bottom where the facets come together but a culet isn't necessary. I know this would be quite a challenge for the 3 of you to try to make but I also think the final results would be interesting. Although I would love to have one I know it would require a decent amount of skill along with being a lot of work. If you guys come up with a successful example it would be something you all should be proud to display on your shelves. I've mentioned it on BigstacksD's channel and I think the Veg oil guy to or maybe even to you. This is the first time I've proposed it as a challenge for the 3 of you. BTW... this could be done easier for those who have a 3D printer. If interested, please discuss it with the guys. I'd love to see it. Thanks Adrock 😀
Let me see what I can do and get printed. I don’t think it would be that hard to make at all. Just time consuming to finish it and clean it all up 👍🏻 it’ll take some time though as I have a lot of projects in the works and hundreds of people suggesting things to me on a daily basis. Don’t worry though I won’t forget about you. I’ll add it to my list of things to make 👍🏻
Is that slag remelt consider pure aluminum or still slag. Is it possible to get something else out of it. A different metal? If not what what is slag aluminum worth? Nothing?
Help me understand. Genuinely, I'm not talking shit... Why bother collecting slag if most of it seems to be pure aluminum? Does it not make more sense to just stir better in the original process, and maybe use more of it up-front? Am I missing something? (Tryna learn, not start shit.)
Would placing the hot crucible directly onto firebricks (like with the metal moulds) keep the melted metal inside the crucible any hotter, for slightly longer, than placing the hot crucible directly onto the cooler concrete slab garage floor? And also, if the crucible were not exposed to sudden temperature changes, such as the cooler concrete slab garage floor, would the crucible perhaps last longer?
I got some things in the works for sure but with work I’ve been so busy I haven’t had much time to get things done but some cool stuff will be out soon for sure 👍🏻
Yes they do. It depends on the alloy you’re melting but if you dunk them in water that should help release but obviously don’t use that mold again until you dry it out. If it’s steel and copper fuses you’ll have to heat up the entire mold again until the copper melts back out. 👍🏻
I've melted like 500 pounds , using wood and a blower, I melt like 60 pounds at a time. I skim of the slag from the top of the mold. Most of the slag stay in my large metal melting pot, very little flows into the molds. . I try to remelt all the slag several times, Each time I get some more aluimum out of it. Try not skimming the slag off, looks like you woud gain more from each melt, scrape the mold for slag not the pot. I use a fork on the molds to remove any slag I all floats to the top.
I know it's a hobby but it's onlt worth like .70 a pound. I only melt when I think I have 60 + pounds of it. I burn off all the excees wood on this ranch in my burn pit ste up. Not this time of year it's to hot and dry. There is like 19 fires burning in my state of Aridzona. I'm not taking any chances this time of year.
Thanks 🙏 I bought the molds online and I’ll it said was 500grams. Not sure what metal they were talking about 🤷🏻♂️ I thought they would be bigger when I bought them but oh well.
It's a good thing you make the effort to reduce waste as much as possible, but one would be better off using a dross like salt in the first melt so that the amount of aluminium residues in the slag is reduced as much as possible. Trying to get Al out of poor slag is not cost-effective, but yes, it can be done. Good try, anyway.
So the question needs to be asked. The time of your efforts, and the cost of propane, is it really worth the 1/2 lb of Al? You are talking about a savings of less than $2.
price around me right now i think you might get $.65 a pound. let's get crazy and say you get a buck a pound, that's a whopping $.54, lol. gas is economical, but still probably have more than $3 in gas (just guessing on that based on another video). is it worth it? not if you like wasting money, not so much, lol.
If you don't preheat the mold and pour molten metal into it cold, the mold will experience "thermal shock" undergo accelerated "thermal erosion" resulting in cracks and peeling in the mold, destroying its service life.
@@ArtByAdrock I understand. I just started my channel and I don't know how you guys juggle life and filming and editing much less actually answering comments. I was impressed with your work BEFORE I knew just how much goes into it, now I'm just in awe. Thank you for the entertainment and inspiration. I'll silently be hoping you get the time to do an opener.
It’s all good haha.. if you used the tank, simply line it with kaowool and use rigidizer to seal it. It works perfectly for what I need and melts copper in 15 minutes 👍🏻
Tbh i would love to receive copper slag, it looks so pretty i wanna keep it in a glass jar... label it "a star's tear" and make future explorers confused Or just look at it like my other lil findings from nature
dont you do stuf with bigstackd from time to time? also, im trying to figure out how to get less dross when melting aluminum. any pointers?? i have a devil forge that is my main melter.
Yes I was just with him for a week melting last month. For less dross it depends on what you’re melting. Mortons lite salt will help with impurities but I would recommend degassing as well. The source of metal will play a big role in the amount of dross. When I melt cans there’s always a lot. Just depends on what it is your melting. Hope that helps.
Degassing will help remove hydrogen that is stored in the aluminum. When you see little holes that is typically the cause. It could also be the air when pouring if the sprues and gating is not done correctly. But with cans there will always be a high amount of dross. I’ll try and explain more on my next can melt 👍🏻
ArtByAdrock hi do you reckon if you have time you might be able to check out me and my mates channel its called RT melt, we are going to get a 3d printer soon and we have petrabond sand to cast with 3d printed models, but some of the things we have done I think you might like seeming we have only just started 13 or 14 weeks ago. Cheers if you do.
Have you seen NurdRage's video, Remove Coke Can from Coke? ua-cam.com/video/X1pB6O6AYMU/v-deo.html It might be of interest to you when you are melting cans.
Dang. There was a lot of slag in that slag. Who would've thought
Yo dawg...
That’s awesome how you were able to squeeze another half pound out of the slag when most people would have just thrown it away. 👍
Yeah I was happy to get that extra bit. Don’t want to let that go to waste 👍🏻
Yes and only at the low cost of the same amount of gas used to get a full pound of metal melted. You wasting time and money by remelting slag. It’s not like by throwing it away it kills the environment. It’s a nature found compound. Just aluminum
Metal casting guy, or matt. True lol
@@metalcastingguyormatt.1461 While you may be using the same amount of gas to get less pure salvageable metal. There is something to be said for reusing what you already have.
It takes time and resources to constantly have fresh metal to melt every single time. If you're doing ok financially and you have the time, then why not re-melt slag? Aluminum may be a natural product but why waste something if you don't have to? It's not like there is a major propane shortage at the moment. Not only that, but the metal industry in general has a long history and historical precedent of reusing and recycling metal.
@@metalcastingguyormatt.1461 Actually this is much more economical and environmentally friendly then refining ore into pure aluminum. You have no idea the time and energy and chemicals that goes into doing that. Recycling will always be a better option. Sure if you have access to lots of cheap or free scrap it might be cheaper than gas. But if you don’t and have to buy your aluminum then it is definitely worth it. You can’t actually buy aluminum at scrap prices in most places. You end up paying 10 times that at least. I’d happily pay 15-25 dollars just for a pound of aluminum. That’s really good pricing compared to what I have available to me locally. And unless you are going to buy it by the ton from China really good pricing compared to what you can find online too. Also if you just add slag to a bunch of metal you are already melting then it wastes no gas at all. It takes no more gas to melt slag then it does normal aluminum. Because you aren’t actually melting the slag it stays solid you are just melting the aluminum stuck to the slag. Melting a small amount in a large foundry is wasteful but if you have enough it wastes nothing.
I can't belive how much this guy reminds me of BigDStacked
It is - the outside of the house is the same, the tatoos are the same and he's got an aluminum Australia on his metal shelf - I think this is just an old Bigstack video.
I wish I could say I’m Bigstack but I’m not however he is a friend of mine. I live in Las Vegas 👍🏻 I’ve heard that numerous times though
@@seanfoltz7645 tats are similar but different ink. This guy also has a nice sleeve. First video I've seen from him will be watching more.
Slags in Vegas , I was thinking your were going another route with this vid? oh well metal melting still gets the job done. I was glad there was a some molten metal under all that ,.well slag. Awesome little bars matey im loving those little cast iron molds. 👌😃
Thanks brotha! Yeah I’m gonna order some more and I’ll get you some since I can get them for cheap 👍🏻🍺🍺
You guys related?
No not related just friends 👍🏻
I thought you guys were the same person. I watch both channels
I dig your channel. I'm Dan, I've been working with metal my whole life. I was in business with my Father for many years owning and operating a bronze foundry for casting our artwork just outside of Price Utah. Just wanted to say that your channel is awesome and captivating and I'll be building a forge/furnace and doing some casting again along with the metal sculpture. Take care and keep having fun bro
Lol this is awesome we talked the other day I asked u what u did with all that slag and now I know thank u sir
Wow, you convinced me. Tell now iI assumed the quality in cans was not worth remelting the slag.
I always thought there would still be good metal left in the slag
Don't know if it's really worth it myself. I got a cookie sheet full and keep looking at the shiny bits in it
Not bad there! all that Aluminium (Aluminum) from the dross is good going, I would have just thrown it into the scrap bin! Another great episode by ArtByAdrock and looking foward to next weeks episode. Keep it up mate, I think I would go Crazy without these videos!
Glad you enjoy 👍🏻 new projects in the works that should be super cool but I’ve been really busy and working long hours so I’m trying to get them done. 😉
@@ArtByAdrock I always enjoy the episodes you, BigstackD and Vegoil Guy Produce oh and how can I forget AlumiTube as well. I am hoping in a few months to set up my own with a small electric furnace hopefully making small bullion bars and selling for charity over here in the UK, and changing my channel name to Made-in-Wales.
Good to hear 👍🏻 once you get started you won’t want to stop. We’re here to help so feel free to always ask questions
@@ArtByAdrock Thank you and I will. at the moment I have been practising with the Smith little tourch melting E scrap and Copper, but I find that the tourch may a little to hot for aluminium (Aluminum)
Try adding some regular salt to it. I find it get a heck of alot more out from the slag.
I'm surprised he didn't add any. It was almost like he had no clue what he was doing but Amazon enables
That's actually how they smelt it industrially; they use cryolite, an aluminosilicate, and melt the alumina in it, then extract the molten aluminum metal from that. You want it all to melt down and not complex with more oxygen and turn into aluminum oxide again!
VERY COOL!! MAKE A MIJOLNIR/THORS HAMMER from brass and Slag Next please!!
Paul's Garage used some salt to help separate the aluminum from the slag. It worked great for him.
Nice. You should do another weapon. I've been doing several now that the printer is up and running. When I melted my Dross I got about 25% back, but, I Forgot to weigh it before I started. Had about 6lbs after it was remelted and about 2lbs of ingots I believe.
Sometimes the slag seems to amalgamate with the aluminum on the top, making aluminum get caught in the slag.
I knew he would remove slag from the slag.
Once you figure out time, fuel and effort, was it really worth it for 3 ingots at half a pound?
probably, possibly, maybe, nah yeah
i doubt it.
but in result he could've made this video.
its worth yeah.
Love the videos Paul from Paul's garage tried a similar experiment but I can't remember what it was that he used to help him get more aluminium from the slag. It might be worth a look to see what he tried & if it might help you out in the future 🔮. Keep up the great work
Salt like morton's light or Borax? help with the dross.
I really like those small ingot molds :)
They’re fun sized 😉👍🏻
The neighborhood looks lovely!
Hey ArtByAdRock, what place is that and where can I find those type of neighbors. I love how it looks and it would feel amazing.
I live in Las Vegas 👍🏻
Oh no wonder 😅 Las Vegas is way buitiful than over here in Texas, Houston
I just throw slag into bucket of weak murratic acid. Then when no more reaction use baking soda to drop it out. And then no more oxidized aluminum so you can dry it and melt it k
Most of the material of that slag is just straight alumina, or aluminum oxide. Just need a stronger heat to melt it. Instead of trashing it, sell/give it to a metal recycling plant.
I cant wait till the rubber duck... metal duck vid and can we get another live stream soon? :) allso keep up the god work and i would love to see you do like a gold coin casting but thay would cost to much
I’m still working on it my friend. I’ve been sooo busy I haven’t had much time. I still need to create a model first and I’ve been working 12-14 hour days at my full time job so it’s taking away from my art but I’ll get there 👍🏻 you’ll be the first to know though 😉
I would LOVE to see the rubber duck! Shoot, I'd probably try to buy it to mount on my truck!
Haha it’s gonna happen one of these days. Just need to find time 🤷🏻♂️
oh ... just commented on a video, and i now realize you have another one explaining my question! xD
5:29 ABOUT TO PICK IT UP WITH HIS HANDS 😱
Love ur videos bro you do amazing work
Thank you 🙏 glad you enjoy
From what i can see the amount recovered doesn't justify the cost. Here is a idea i been playing with for aluminum dross. Making a hydrogen generator by mixing the aluminum dross with sodium hydroxide it creates pure hydrogen gas. That gas can then be captured and compressed to be used for many projects and has real value. It could even fuel your furnace at faster higher heat.
Ken Jett Isn't dross is mostly aluminum oxide?
If it is then the reaction with sodium hydroxide produce sodium aluminate and water.
@@XtreeM_FaiL that is part right but care must be taken if adding sodium hydroxide to aluminum dross/oxide. That reaction creates highly flammable hydrogen gas. If a vessel for collecting the hydrogen can be done hydrogen has a great many uses. I have a few ideas on a collection system just for this process. But i am still in the process of building my shop so as to have a place to do various projects.
Nice mingots (mini ingots). 👍
The mixed slag melt is going to be interesting.
What's the best flux to use, so that the aluminum separates and the dross is mostly dry contaminants?
I've tried the 20-mule stuff with mixed results.
the best flux for aluminum is salt
@@minecraftfan3455
my understanding was that salt just makes an easier pour, with a poorer metal quality.
Sdweeb has a mini course from Bob Puhaka on his channel.
I'm pretty sure he said gas is the only way to really get the oxide to float up.
Almost 250 grams of clean aluminium, great job! They can now be used in one of your cool projects.
Should have weighed the slag first and figured out how much fuel you used to determine if the time/fuel was worth it.
It sounds weird but I have been using regular table salt to aid in separating the slag from the aluminium. It takes the heavy slag like you appear to be getting and separates the aluminium so the slag is more powdery almost ash like and very light and crumbly once it cools. It doesn't take much table salt and it seems to work really well.
I haven’t tried regular table salt but I’ll give it a shot and see what happens next time 👍🏻
When do you add the salt? I.e. beginning, middle, or end. Do you add anything else like borax to the molten aluminum?
I add the salt near the end. I've tried at different points in the melt and it seems that at the end us the most effective. I melt a lot of pop cans and I gave run the slag through a second time (first time without salt) with salt and I can recover enough aluminium that it seems worth while to add the salt.
I have not tried borax yet as I am also experimenting with other aluminium sources. I just acquired a whole bunch of extrusions from many several different sources so it will be interesting to see how the different alloys behave.
I think you should do a rubber duck also! You said the slag was melting fast, I don't do anything like this, so how fast is fast? Like from the time you put the crucible in to when it's melted and you're pulling off the slag again? And then, do you think it'd make much difference if the slag you were going to re-melt, was almost like a powder? Like if you put it in a blender to make it as fine as possible? Just thoughts. I enjoy watching your videos!
Once it’s red hot it melts in only a few seconds. By the time I put the lid on, most of it is already melted and I have to take it back off 👍🏻
You can take your dross and slap to metal yard they pay for it. There is usable material in it still but most home and small shop foundries cannot process it fully. Just like other scrap you get by the pound.
3:13 The slag of slag
What type of sand paper do you use to make the ingots shine
I'm wondering how much that stuff weighed before you started, the weight of the bars after as well as the weight of the dross left afterwards
I cast a lot of lead bullets. Starting with clean ingots.Slag covers the top of the melt,scrape it off and it comes back. I save the slag and remelt much like you did but I add carbon to the melt. Sawdust is what I use. The carbon hooks up with the extra oxygen atom from the lead oxide and turns to C02 and floats away. I can reclaim some 75-80 % back as pure lead. I bet this will work with your Aluminum oxide in that slag.
Haven’t tried it but I will 👍🏻
@@ArtByAdrock Let us know how it works
I think carbon would add considerably to the porosity if any castings from aluminium. My understanding is that you want to avoid as much carbon (and hydrogen) as possible.
@@JointerMark True if you did a direct cast from slag to casting. But to make clean ingots it should work. In remelting any ingots for a final product I would use a flux and degaser prior to pouring
do you care about eficiency? Fuel cost? maybe at certain volume remelting slag would be worth it? What would that volume be?
Brass UA-cam Play Button?
How about at 10k I’ll make that 🤔
How many cans to melt 100 oz?
Wow. You can look out your window and feel right at home in your neighbors living room.
What if you took a small bar and made a pool before adding your slag then use borax to Flux it
Get your buddy to make a half of a diamond shaped mold . Buffed up that would look sweet
How high is the ceiling in your garage? How do you keep from scorching it?
That "Muzac" has to go. Feels like the dental drill is about to come out while you get the dental dam ready.
Can you melt those left over from those slag even further ? Is it worth to remelt those already remelted slag ?
May i ask what kind of wax you use for polishing aluminium?
You really need to redo that furnace or make a new new one.
Yeah I’m re-lining it and fixing it just been busy 👍🏻
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I would like a diamond shaped paperweight...lol 😅 Not like on a playing card. One that's in the actual shape of a gemstone. 💎 Maybe done in aluminum if that's the easiest metal to sand down. Just a bit smaller than the size of a balled up fist.
I think you, BigstacksD and Veg oil guy should do it as a challenge. I believe all 3 of you have belt sanders so you guys should be able to sand all of the facets smooth and shiny along with the table on the top. If you look at an image of a diamond you'll see what's called the girdle which is a circular band around the widest part of a diamond. Again the image, from top to bottom would be the table, the crown(facets above the girdle)and the girdle itself next. Then below the girdle would be the pavillion which is longer facets that should come to a point or a tiny cut(called a culet)at the bottom where the facets come together but a culet isn't necessary.
I know this would be quite a challenge for the 3 of you to try to make but I also think the final results would be interesting.
Although I would love to have one I know it would require a decent amount of skill along with being a lot of work. If you guys come up with a successful example it would be something you all should be proud to display on your shelves.
I've mentioned it on BigstacksD's channel and I think the Veg oil guy to or maybe even to you. This is the first time I've proposed it as a challenge for the 3 of you. BTW... this could be done easier for those who have a 3D printer. If interested, please discuss it with the guys. I'd love to see it. Thanks Adrock 😀
Let me see what I can do and get printed. I don’t think it would be that hard to make at all. Just time consuming to finish it and clean it all up 👍🏻 it’ll take some time though as I have a lot of projects in the works and hundreds of people suggesting things to me on a daily basis. Don’t worry though I won’t forget about you. I’ll add it to my list of things to make 👍🏻
Is that slag remelt consider pure aluminum or still slag. Is it possible to get something else out of it. A different metal? If not what what is slag aluminum worth? Nothing?
Help me understand. Genuinely, I'm not talking shit...
Why bother collecting slag if most of it seems to be pure aluminum? Does it not make more sense to just stir better in the original process, and maybe use more of it up-front? Am I missing something? (Tryna learn, not start shit.)
I wonder how much more you could get from doing it the chemist way instead of melting it.
You could save you slag each tone can be worth 35 bucks it’s not a lot but it adds up
Would placing the hot crucible directly onto firebricks (like with the metal moulds) keep the melted metal inside the crucible any hotter, for slightly longer, than placing the hot crucible directly onto the cooler concrete slab garage floor?
And also, if the crucible were not exposed to sudden temperature changes, such as the cooler concrete slab garage floor, would the crucible perhaps last longer?
I LOVE slag remelts. Do you still do them sometimes? Haven't seen one in awhile.
Did you add any flux?
How did you make the crucible?
Over 8 oz!
Hell yeah buddy!
Shiny bars for the shelf!
Now, how about a brass bell?
A nice 10lb-der!
Thanx for the cool vid Adam! :D
Maybe even a challenge for the fellas?
Perry too?
A bit of a 4-way?...
I got some things in the works for sure but with work I’ve been so busy I haven’t had much time to get things done but some cool stuff will be out soon for sure 👍🏻
@@ArtByAdrock Sweeeeeet! :D
What grit is on the hand grinder
Do ingots ever get really really stuck in the molds? What do you do if so?
Yes they do. It depends on the alloy you’re melting but if you dunk them in water that should help release but obviously don’t use that mold again until you dry it out. If it’s steel and copper fuses you’ll have to heat up the entire mold again until the copper melts back out. 👍🏻
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I'm just getting started in this. I'd love to know the crucible sizes and ingot sizes your using. As I'm not sure what sizes to buy
Make some kind with a handicap sign
I've melted like 500 pounds , using wood and a blower, I melt like 60 pounds at a time. I skim of the slag from the top of the mold. Most of the slag stay in my large metal melting pot, very little flows into the molds. . I try to remelt all the slag several times, Each time I get some more aluimum out of it. Try not skimming the slag off, looks like you woud gain more from each melt, scrape the mold for slag not the pot. I use a fork on the molds to remove any slag I all floats to the top.
I know it's a hobby but it's onlt worth like .70 a pound. I only melt when I think I have 60 + pounds of it. I burn off all the excees wood on this ranch in my burn pit ste up. Not this time of year it's to hot and dry. There is like 19 fires burning in my state of Aridzona. I'm not taking any chances this time of year.
Yep
get a rock crusher i reckon to make it alot quicker/easier to break alot of the slag up to smaller bits to fit more in
Where did you buy your crucible
I usually by them on amazon. The procast ones seems to work the best and last the longest 👍🏻
Hey I loved the video, I'm getting into melting what size molds are those?
Thanks 🙏 I bought the molds online and I’ll it said was 500grams. Not sure what metal they were talking about 🤷🏻♂️ I thought they would be bigger when I bought them but oh well.
@@ArtByAdrock I have the same problem of mold sizes. Thank you
No prob.. pictures can be deceiving sometimes. I think I’ll make my own in the future 🤔
@@ArtByAdrock that would be a cool video to make your own custom molds
I just might do that. I’m not the best welder in the world but I’ll make it work haha 😂 might not be pretty looking but oh well
Have you ever used potassium nitrate when you melt the cans to help with the dross?
I haven’t no. One of these days I will though and I’ll put a video out to show the difference 👍🏻
feel me like you should donate your slags to Codi's Lab and have him extract golds from it.
make one massive cartridge case
Hmmmm 🤔 I wonder how hard that would be 👍🏻
It's a good thing you make the effort to reduce waste as much as possible, but one would be better off using a dross like salt in the first melt so that the amount of aluminium residues in the slag is reduced as much as possible. Trying to get Al out of poor slag is not cost-effective, but yes, it can be done. Good try, anyway.
So the question needs to be asked. The time of your efforts, and the cost of propane, is it really worth the 1/2 lb of Al? You are talking about a savings of less than $2.
That question has been answered a hundred times. Watch my other videos and you’ll see why 🤦🏻♂️
ArtByAdrock which video?
Would the slag from the slag just be waste?
Yeah I end up just throwing that all out
price around me right now i think you might get $.65 a pound. let's get crazy and say you get a buck a pound, that's a whopping $.54, lol. gas is economical, but still probably have more than $3 in gas (just guessing on that based on another video).
is it worth it? not if you like wasting money, not so much, lol.
Maybe a slag fork instead of spoon. The spoon is going to get a little in each scoop.
What happen if you dont pre heat the molds?
If you don't preheat the mold and pour molten metal into it cold, the mold will experience "thermal shock" undergo accelerated "thermal erosion" resulting in cracks and peeling in the mold, destroying its service life.
Got more out of it then I expected. Will you be participating in the #2019openersopen bottle opener "challenge" ?
I’d like to but I’ve been so busy lately I’m not sure if I’ll have time but we’ll see 👍🏻
@@ArtByAdrock I understand. I just started my channel and I don't know how you guys juggle life and filming and editing much less actually answering comments. I was impressed with your work BEFORE I knew just how much goes into it, now I'm just in awe. Thank you for the entertainment and inspiration. I'll silently be hoping you get the time to do an opener.
Yeah it’s very time consuming. But when your passionate about something it’s worth it 👍🏻
Will Borax help you recover more from the slag?
Couldn’t you turn that slag into aluminum oxide
Couldn’t you turn that slag into aluminum oxide
Where did you get all the brass?
I have a sponsor that gets me as much as I need 👍🏻
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Has anyone tried a slotted spoon or something like it to skim off the slag?
4:12 keep away hot slag from gas pipe
I was thinking about buying a furnace from devils forge but I think I like yours better. What was used inside ?
Suppose I should look at previous vids to see before I ask but I'm new lol. I have spare tanks laying around. Just need some tips
It’s all good haha.. if you used the tank, simply line it with kaowool and use rigidizer to seal it. It works perfectly for what I need and melts copper in 15 minutes 👍🏻
@@ArtByAdrock thanks I appreciate your reply. Glad I subbed thanks again. I owe ya one
No prob 👍🏻
If my ins company saw me doing that in my garage they would drop me for sure. JS
Tbh i would love to receive copper slag, it looks so pretty i wanna keep it in a glass jar... label it "a star's tear" and make future explorers confused
Or just look at it like my other lil findings from nature
dont you do stuf with bigstackd from time to time? also, im trying to figure out how to get less dross when melting aluminum. any pointers?? i have a devil forge that is my main melter.
Yes I was just with him for a week melting last month. For less dross it depends on what you’re melting. Mortons lite salt will help with impurities but I would recommend degassing as well. The source of metal will play a big role in the amount of dross. When I melt cans there’s always a lot. Just depends on what it is your melting. Hope that helps.
@@ArtByAdrock yes i melt a lot of cans so thats my main concern. so i can use salt to help. can you explain what degassing is?
Degassing will help remove hydrogen that is stored in the aluminum. When you see little holes that is typically the cause. It could also be the air when pouring if the sprues and gating is not done correctly. But with cans there will always be a high amount of dross. I’ll try and explain more on my next can melt 👍🏻
@@ArtByAdrock please do! im subscribed and ringing the bell hahah
Copper is like about $2.00 a pound. More money in it.
i thought he is big stack in its earlier day, no devil forge.
dang.. i should keep my slag and remelt... Hey are you in Vegas?
Yes I am
1:00 *caustic from apex legends* BREATHE IT IN
Goes to show how more aluminum you can get.
try to remove the oxygen from the surface of the metal you want to melt into the crucible
add borax man. helps 1000 %
where do you get the ingot molds from ?
eBays usually where I buy them from 👍🏻
ArtByAdrock cheers mate, i'll go check it out
ArtByAdrock hi do you reckon if you have time you might be able to check out me and my mates channel its called RT melt, we are going to get a 3d printer soon and we have petrabond sand to cast with 3d printed models, but some of the things we have done I think you might like seeming we have only just started 13 or 14 weeks ago. Cheers if you do.
you know the best way to get a LOT of aluminum is at the car scrap yard engine block or heads
Every time you put something in that vice I cringe 😬.... GET A SMOOTH JAW VICE! You’re gonna pressure mark something and regret it
Have you seen NurdRage's video, Remove Coke Can from Coke? ua-cam.com/video/X1pB6O6AYMU/v-deo.html It might be of interest to you when you are melting cans.