For those wondering, I do have a separate video on solo ship arrivals. If you are interested, the link is at the end of the comment. I'm not doing this as self promotion, but to reduce the comments asking about single ship arrivals, such as the Pegasus's and Enterprise E's. The video: ua-cam.com/video/9tstmBYdTTk/v-deo.htmlsi=tNLzst_DidNXkdMK The link to part two of ship arrivals: ua-cam.com/video/vQYjpZhc9dY/v-deo.htmlsi=kq_es69guSmNiHyu
only ones worth it for me personally was the the rebal fleet at endor,minbari fleet help B5 and Delenn famous words "Be somewhere else", and then the fleets agianst the reapers but where was the geth fleet ?, and finally the firefly reaver fleet, the rest didnt exacly do anything for me
My question for you is why is the fleet that arrives to safe Picard from the romulan fleet in the Picard show not on here? ua-cam.com/video/XsM6eJSsiF4/v-deo.htmlsi=PgppVfu5kb-3MEkQ
I got to see that scene first run, which was back before all the internet spoilers. When the Minbari and Deleen popped in I remember shouting "YES" loud enough my downstairs neighbor asked the next day if I was ok.
@@saberridge6867 I also got to watch it happen. Similarly, I remember screaming with joy and getting teary eyed at the Enterprise rescuing Picard on the final episode of TNG, "All good things".
the massive Minbari fleet entrance in the babylon 5 movie "in the beginning" is awesome, especially given how old the movie is. Theres basically enough of them to encircle the entire earth and they all jump in as one. Thousands of blue jump vortexes fill space dropping thousands of heavy cruisers who immediately open up on the defenders
B5 is easily the top 1-3 scifi series of all time. I would like to revisit it, but maybe it is just better to let it go. There is no way to replicate the frantic atmosphere of the B5 universe.
@@leonfairhurst7597 Sorry, I meant a new B5 universe series. I enjoy watching most of the originals and the movies. Even if they are not 4K the stories are always compelling.
Whether people thought it was a sub-par movie or not, and while not technically a reveal/arrival, I'm a huge fan of the final fleet scene in the Ender's Game movie.
Funny how "starships" are being used as fighters in Star Trek for example. They're thrown around as if they're nimble fighters. How can huge Starships deal with that stress on their frames?
The truth is you could probably make a top ten just from Babylon 5 ...i love the one here but my fave from the series is Ivanova facing down the shadow Earth force fleet..
Man, I peg the Serenity fleet arrival as number one too simply for how the up-til-now cool-as-a-cucumber Operative completely loses his shit as soon as the Reavers appear.
@@elijahtourtillott7550 It's not that they _outgun_ the alliance fleet (they don't, all they have is converted civilian ships and they're up against actual warships), it's that thanks to the Operative's decision to park right at the edge of the cloud _they're already in knife-fight range_ which is where the alliance a.) can't really bring its tech superiority to bear and b.) the reavers' crude weapons actually stand a good chance of hitting something.
@@GaldirEonai I was thinking they were outgunned because we know that the reavers have a tendency to just ram everything in dust so by tonnage I would consider this fight being "outgunned" because their ships are also weapons
For me, Mass Effect 3 will always be the best Fleet Arrival scene out there. maybe it is because I did not just watch this, I put around 80 hours of work behind this. Every single time.
The music also boosts it to. 1 shot to win and we got everyone ready to fight. Reapers gonna get hit with the full might of the Milkyway and the last of the Protheien Empire.
Same, 3 games and hundreds of hours went into assembling the best fleet. I also think the Alliance Fleet coming in to save the Destiny Ascension shoulda been on the list. Say what you will about the Council, but I personally think that scene has the same energy as the Ride of the Rohirrim.
@@Capt_Dango "Destiny Ascension. You are all clear. Repeat - You are all clear." Yes, that's also a great moment, but I must say that this moment was ruined in some localizations. In german for example Joker says: "Sie sind gerettet. Ich wiederhole: Sie sind gerettet." Which translates to: "You are seved. I repeat: You are saved." That sounds a little... well, obvious, I think and therefore stupid. But the whole german localization of the first part was... mediocre at best.
And also probably the only one on here that loses the battle(not counting Shepard and the Crucible that they didn’t even know how to use), getting absolutely wrecked for their trouble.
The Klingons coming in via the Z axis to save the fleet was so badass, i remember watching it as a kid, jumping around my living room, that's how bad ass it was
Not just that but coming out of the sun. My head canon is that some solar emissions masked their approach or something but it definitely was a callback to WW2 dogfighting tactics.
I fist pumped. I figure they probably were all cloaked, and probably approached from a direction where that many cloaked ships approach would not be detected easily. (a large group of cloaked ships would cause one weird distortion)
Thank you for including the Minbari ships defending B5. The perfect victory, making the enemy leave without firing a shot. The scene from Serenity is indeed one of my favorite fleet arrivals.
My fave are the Rebel Alliance arriving on Scariff and Riker commanding the Federation Fleet facing off against the Zhat Vash over Gulion 4. Close seconds are Janeway commanding the void alliance as they jointly escape the void in Voyager and the Seperatist fleet arriving over Cristophsis as well as the Keylon fleet joining the Union vs the Moclan-Krill alliance.
I am going to recommend another one. The Shadow attack on Quadrant 14 seen in Babylon 5 "The Coming of Shadows". It's only 3 ships but in the span of 90 seconds we finally got to see the absolute horrifying power the Shadows have.
I was thinking that or the Battle of the Line; just seeing a wall of jump gates pouring out dozens of Minbari cruisers- each one able to splash any Earth capital ship with near impunity- pouring out with Luna in the background...
@@Sephiroth144 I saw many people on this video recommend the Battle of the Line from In the Beginning. That is why I did not recommend that one. I did not see anyone recommend the Q14 attack. It looks like you and others agree might with me. Until that moment, we only saw glimpses (a few seconds at best) of Shadow ships. They came and disappeared like ghosts. The attack on Q14 was exactly what we expected it to be: mortals trying to fight gods. You could not help but watch in horror as the Narn get wiped out. This feeling is repeated at the end of the Narn-Centauri War with the Battle of Gorash 7. Except in that battle, you watch in horror and sadness as the entire remaining Narn fleet is wiped out.
@@brianwhedon8442 For me, anyway, the arrival of the Shadows at Q14 doesn't have the same impact as the arrival of the Minbari fleet does over Earth. I don't think Q14 really solidified the Shadows as "God Tier"; it could have been a surprise attack by a superior force; we only saw the Narn fighters respond against Capital ships. (I mean, the initial hit was three capitals against a civilian space station that had a cruiser docked with it; not really a challenge foe with the element of surprise) Gorash VII, however, when it showed the utter futility and "godhood" (or Ancient-ness) of the Shadows compared to the younger races- a complete Narn battle group, alert and ready to fight, getting toyed with like a cat with a mouse... that, to me, demonstrated the power differential much more effectively.
@@Sephiroth144 I think the Battle of the Line from In the Beginning is definitely up on the list and worthy of being in this video. That moment was one of the rare times on TV where the visuals matched the foreboding. We spent 3 seasons of Babylon 5 where characters referenced back to the BotL as being a massive space battle where humankind was fighting to just save some of itself from extinction. No chance of winning whatsoever. And that fleet jumping in all at once was exactly as shocking to see as it was to watch. We now knew why the characters that survived that battle were so traumatized by it.
My favorite was when the entire Rohirrim fleet came in to attack the Uruk-Hai assault ships invading the Gondor system. Then my next favorite is when they maneuvered to face the much more formidable mercenary Haradrim Dreadnought flotilla despite the massive tonnage disadvantage.
There's in Star Trek TNG when Picard is trying ti get the Romulans to be reasonable in the Neutral zone. He caps he argument when Klingon Ships decloak. The Romulans then decide that diplomacy is a better course of action.
Seconded. Picard - "Are you prepared to die today, Tomalok?" Tomalok - "I expected more from you than an idol threat Picard." Picard - "Then you shall have it. Mr Worf" Worf - Aye sir. (Klingon theme music playing) "Klingon Warships, armed and ready sir."
Thank you for including the Mass Effect scene. It had so much impact after building up that group of allies for multiple playthroughs of three games, it deserves to stand with the others. Delenn also can't be beat even if her fleet is small.
You know you've played Mass Effect too many times when you look at that clip and your first thought is "Hmmm, looks like Shepard didn't save the Citadel Council in ME1 in this playthrough..." 😆
Loved it. Nice someone finally put this together. I still say that the Babylon 5 one is the best. "If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" ,..maybe you had to be there when it first aired. I was :P😃❤ Also always loved that Stargate Atlantis one too.
I love all these but I think my personal favorite is #4, only because Delenn is so badass in this scene - "If you value your lives, BE somewhere else." Edit: After reading though some of the comments, I am glad I am not the only one who loves this moment.
yep. we all felt the same. Such an emotional build up in that episode, then when it looked like the gamble failed and the battle was lost, Delenn storms in.
I almost forgot the Fleet fight in Serenity! I completely agree with this list! Epic Fleet engagements! Canceling Firefly was on of the biggest Tv show blunders of our time!
An interesting comparison here. Serenity had a 40 million dollar budget (and spent 39 million of it), a year of production time, and has at least a dozen different ship types in clear view. The Rise of Skywalker, with a 400+ million dollar budget, 2 years, and a fanbase with scads of high resolution ship designs they'd gladly sell rights to use, had to reuse assets for the primary enemy ships (old Imperial 1's scaled 50% bigger because they made a model for Rogue 1), and extensively copy pasted ships to fill out the count, including ships that made no sense but they had models for, like Han's cargo hauler, and kept most of them at arms length.
With Serenity, they all actually *cared* about it. Disney may have the money, but they don't give a shit about the production beyond their bottom line.
Yeah, I definitely would _not_ include the Rise of Skywalker one. Not simply for the cheesy cut & paste, but that moments before, it was supposed to be difficult to make it through to where the Empire was. (Having stated that, I wouldn't have included the Imperial ships as that was just copy pasta over and over.) I miss when ships were models and not CGI.
I don't think that matters here though; this ranks the presentation of the fleets, not their composition. But yes, Disney went _extremely_ lazy on ship designs. They should've just given the _last movie_ at least another year to finish.
Not just the copy paste on the reinforcements but the criminally tiny amount of actual fighting shown. We have a huge fleet show up and it does almost nothing on screen. it may as well have been a matt painting of a fleet
While it was an amazing entrance of a single ship, the definition of a fleet that was provided was 3 or more ships excluding fighters, the Pegasus was the only ship in that instance and therefore doesn't qualify
That pan out of BSG getting pummelled and then you hear the whoosh, whoosh as rockets/missiles and guns fire then that big beautiful bastard soaring past with all batteries firing. God. Damn.
This was a good list, with lots of great memories, but was surprised my favorite sci-fi fleet arrival didn’t even get a mention. Final episode of the Orville, the Kaylon wedding party. Easily my most memorable.
4:45 there's an animated version of this, in Tartovsky's 2003 clone wars, which is even more epic. The camera pans up, into space, showing hundreds of stars, and then zooms in, revealing that the "stars" are actually thousands of ships slugging it out in orbit.
The increadible Battle for Sol in Mass Effect 3 demonstrates why I hate the Battle of Exogol despite them being very similar in concept. The combined fleets in ME were put together after months of diplomacy, fierce fighting, planning and co-ordination. So the pay-off from seeing the results of your dozens of hours in game, is amazing. Very satisfying. The 'Galaxy Fleet' in RoS on the other hand was basically put together in an afternoon and brought in as a completely unbelievable shock reveal. Just feels hollow. There's only so much I can suspend my disbelief...
Destiny 2's Excision mission features the Coalition Fleet deploying troops, but I don't know if it counts here as the players have seen it over the Last City since Lightfall.
My main issue with it is two things 1) no way all those ships came in at the same time because of hyperdrive speeds 2) THEY HAD THE BEST CHANCE TO SHOW SOME GOOD QUALITY SHIP VS SHIP COMBAT AND WASTED IT GAH
Great scenes but that Firefly ones wins in my mind. That fear that suddenly replaced that smug smile when the reavers can out of the clouds was perfect. But that line from Delen was pretty damn awesome. She was such a powerful character in that show.
9 was the most excited I ever got watching Sci-fi you never saw task forces like that in Star Trek until that episode it got me excited. That being said 4 was probably the most badass fleet arrival in Sci-fi.
For me, the arrival of the "Galaxy fleet" in Star Wars 9 was the stupidest thing. For one, the logistics of it simply don't make sense. To have a fleet arrive simultaneously means they would have had to gather the fleet somewhere else, like the Rebel Fleet did in Episode 6. And they made such a huge deal about how difficult it was to reach Exogol even with a small ship and suddenly, tens of thousands of ships of all sizes arrive there at the same time?
Not only was that the stupidest thing, but where is the huge battle that should evolve from that massive fleet? It's nowhere reflected in the movie. Yes, there is some action after the arrival, but none of the grand scale with so many ships. Such a waste..
the defiant joining the fleet always cracked me up, because if i remember correctly this happens at the end of a season? and at the start of the next season the opening ~10 minutes is bashir talking about how many ships they've lost lmao
Well I don't really care the ones complaining. This is a really good compilation of what you believe are the best fleet arrival scenes. The one where Poe has just started to give up hope and then Lando chimes in always elicits an emotional response from me. :) You have earned a new subscriber today.
I have to ask how do you not have the Rebel Fleet arriving at Scariff? One of the all time epic fleet arrivals. Also, Prometheus (with escort craft) arriving in Antarctica is a great fleet arrival moment. Not a fleet, but worth two worth honorable mention: Pegasus saving Galactica; The Apollo saving the Agamemnon.
"Apollo to Agamemnon, we have monitored the situation. Hold on to your hats..." Awesome moment! But just one ship saving one ship whereas this video is featuring "fleets" so I see why they left it off.
@7:10 For all its many flaws, this moment, this single beat, was the peak of the sequel trilogy. The most meaningful, important and beautiful thing it had to say. "There are more of *us* ." "They have no navy." "It's not a navy sir, it's just...people."
That would have been true if the people navy was in any way earned, explained, or built up to, or made any logical sense whatsoever as to how it could have been rallied, coordinated, assembled, and traveled there.
Coolest Star Trek tng moment ever was when the enterprise is met by Romulan war birds and Picard asked if they were prepared to die today as the Klingons de cloak and are surrounding them. Such an amazing moment.
star wars pretty much sucks at everything fleet space battle. One of the best entrances of all time IMO is Delenn arriving in a Whitestar with three Minbari battlecruisers to protect Babylon 5. 'Only one human captain has ever survived battle with the Minbari. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else.' Humans destroyers leave....
I am a huge B5 fan to the core. But before I was one, the Battle of Endor was my benchmark of epic space battles that was only demoted after watching Sheridan's fleets fight the Shadows and later both Shadows and Vorlons.
Some of the Battlestar Galactica remake space battles deserve a mention too. Some great fleet reveals in that when the Cylons appear and launch their attacks!
Yeah there's a half dozen or so fleet reveals from BSG and The Expanse that would bump out the majority of this list, surprised to not even see one included from either show.
Nice list. :) I would like to submit another candidte for consideration. From Babylon 5: Episode "Walkabout"...with the White Star in threat of destruction by a group of Shadow Vessels, even as a Minbari Cruiser with Telepaths attempts to prevent the Shadows from destroying them, G'Kar, having been spurred to action by an outraged Security Chief, gathers a fleet of ships from the Non-Aligned Worlds, as well as a Narn Cruiser, to even the odds.
@@kevsecker3182 It sucks the show was always on the cutting block. For 5 seasons they never knew if they were going to get anther season. So JMS had to write according this is the last season. So even though he took chances with getting renewed. He knew season 4 was the last and that was it. So he rushed the Shadow War and Earth War to its conclusions. You know full well if he had a 5 season already green lit he would have waited and drawn out the conflict. But man season 4 finishing up all those storylines. It's such a great fucking final season to go out on. Season 5 not so much but B5 is peak Scifi seasons 2-4.
I searched the comments to see if another B5 fan would have mentioned this. This is a great moment, the G'Tok jumps in and opens up both batteries and that kills the Shadow cruiser. When Sheridan says thanks to G'Kar for saving them, he chuckles "I am not on board the G'Tok captain..." and the jumppoint forms and out comes a bunch of Narn fighters and ships from 3+ League races. The music shifts so well and you see Lyta on the bridge of the Whitestar looking out at the fleet of ships and she hears the voice of Kosh clearly say "...And so it begins"
Nobody talks about Wing Commander movie version? I grew up watching the movie, i know it gets hated for not being game accurate, but the storyline and movie-verse on its own are quite awesome and well-made to me.
Yeah, we don't talk enough about the Wing Commander movie. It's been a while, though, and I don't remember it very well. I do remember liking the scene where the enemy fleet arrives one at a time, and they get ambushed as they arrive.
Saw this Reaver Scene (Serenity) at least 10 years ago last time.....Still rrmember this Scene😂.....Still be Clearlest moment I remember from the movie...akong with couple others....literally moment the Bad Guy realizes how Screwed/Fucked he is
Technically, by 20th Century large navy standards (USN, RN, IJN) a division of ships is 2-5; a squadron is two or more divisions; a flotilla is two or more squadrons; a fleet is two or more flotillas for about 32+ ships. By 18th-19th Century standards a “full” fleet had three squadrons, the Van(guard), the Center, and the Rear(guard) commanded by a Vice (Van) Admiral, an Admiral, and a Rear Admiral, usually with about 4-8 ships under the direct command of each, for about 12-24, although there might only be two squadrons (and admirals, of various grades). Suffren’s “fleet” in the Indian Ocean was really nothing more than a squadron of about 4-8 ships-of-line. Public knowledge has plummeted so badly in the last 50 years that even reporters (who should know better) have taken to calling anything gray that floats a “battleship” and more than one a “fleet”. Science fiction and space fantasy have perverted terms out of all recognition with the label “battlecruiser” slapped on ships haphazardly with little awareness that such a ship was fast, heavily armed and WEAKLY protected. Star Wars perverted the term “destroyer” from an escort (“torpedo boat destroyer”) into a capital ship. The term “dreadnought” has lost all meaning as well, having originally meant a capital ship with a uniform armament of the heaviest weapons available with no intermediate sized weapons between that calibre of weapon and purely defensive armament. Post-WW2 glorification, and historical misinterpretation of Taranto, Pearl Harbor and Kuantan has also imbued the term with an air of obsolescence that belies the fact that these ships were the ne plus ultra of the early 20th Century. Also lost is the fact that at Kuantan and even as late as 1944-1945 it was taking the effort of an entire fleet of carriers to bring down the largest modern ships of the type. Taranto and Pearl Harbor proved nothing other than any ship of any type can be sunk at anchor or at pierside, especially if taken by surprise. Kuantan proved 80 peasants could overwhelm 2 knights…especially if the knights were armed only with daggers and the peasants with spears, which would be a fair analogy for the relative effectiveness of the two capital ships AA in the battle…which distinctly contrasted with the AA firepower of modern American battleships less than a year later.
Perhaps you're taking all this a little too seriously. A naval officer will be expected to fully understand all these terms: for laymen a fleet is a few ships.
You’re completely misunderstanding the carrier vs. battleship matchup. The fact it takes a ridiculous amount of aircraft to sink battleships is irrelevant because the battleship can only defend itself and has basically no offensive capability against an aircraft carrier, simply because it can’t get close enough to open fire. THAT is why battleships are obsolete and why carriers rendered them obsolete. Surviving is not the same thing as actually doing your job. Your peasants vs. armoured knights analogy is misleading for that reason: what it ACTUALLY shows is that armoured knights vs. Peasants armed with long-range weapons and horses of their own will at best result in the armoured knights surviving but without being able to kill any of the peasants.
In the sci-fi Pentalogy I'm writing, I am relatively picky about my terminology for groups of ships, and ranks. Of course, some of my definitions of smaller ships (scouts & corvettes are a little squishy), but I am fairly picky also about the naming convention for different levels of ships. (If you know the naming convention, you could see the name of a ship and know whether it is a battleship, cruiser, destroyer or other)
Regarding the 20th century ships types. Yes that are the post-Second London Treaty definition. Arguably even after that Treaty, those definitions were not exactly adhered to. But anyway, by that point, the originals meanings had been warped as much if not more than in Sci-Fi. Starting from battlecruisers, Imperial Germany built them as basically faster battleships, with armour and guns scaled down in numbers or weight (ergo thickness and diameter) to allow it. Meanwhile, the Hood was laid down as a battlecruiser, but by its sinking had been defacto uparmoured to fast battleships standards. And this was a ship class that had by that point, existed for barely more than 30 years. Destroyers were slightly older, but as you pointed out, their name came from their original role as "torpedo boat destroyers". Yet as open ocean warfare became more viable thanks to radar, outside the operating range of said boats. As torpedoes became more advanced and longer ranged. Destroyers evolved to outright replace torpedo boats in fleet actions, requiring a new class, light cruisers, be concieved to hunt them down. As aircrafts and submarines became the new threat to larger vessels, destroyers returned to their screening role, but now with completely different weapons and requirements. Today, destroyers are as large as old cruisers, to escort carriers (for most fleets) or battlecruisers (for Soviet fleets) on long voyages, as well as to carry all possible weapon systems to fight any conceivable threat or theater. However because submarines and aircrafts are just that insidious, the term Frigate, abandoned after the transition to ironclads. Was resurrected. Except instead of being the smallest ship with the supply necessary to cruise alone through oceans. Ergo defacto a London light cruiser. It was applied to a whole new type of ship, one meant for anti air but especially anti submarine escort or hunting work alone.
A couple of years back I watched a list of creepiest music videos where basically everything was boring so you'd never believe they'd be right about the number 1 spot but they absolutely were.
I have to mention because I would hate myself if I didn't the arrival of the wave motion gun fleet in space battleship Yamato 2202 during the battle of Saturn and I also just for fairness the arrival of the Gamilan fleet a little while later at I think earth itself or maybe it was mars. I can't remember off the top of my head which defense line they were at but most likely it was mars.
Good list, but personally,. the Lower Decks sequence, which had heart to it, is FAR better than the Rise of Skywalker sequence which was just big for the hell of it.
Your missing one of the best ever: Clear Skies 3, the end epic battle: JR - Sasha, it’s time! Evil villain - Time for what? *Sasha decloaks and opens a cyno (music spools up to Paul Van Dyk’s ‘Nothing But You’ at about :26 second point-so epic…)* Calderi Fleet Commander - JUMP!!! Evil Villan - ROURKE, what have you done!? Look it up and add it to your list. You’re welcome! 😊
I can't get behind anything Starwars Disney Trilogy. Picard S1 and S2, Just no. STD is trash except the Binary Star arrival. MORE quantity and MORE flash, is not usually better. CTRL C CTRL V is lazy.
Rogue One, when Admiral Raddus jumps in to help the team stealing the Death Star plans. It had a great "the calvary has arrived" sense to it. Followed closely by Darth Vader jumping in to stop them.
The very best was not in a sift movie or TV show but in The Longest Day, You know those Three Thousand Ships You said the Allies don’t have, Well they got THEM! ✊🏽👍🏽🇺🇸🇬🇧
You need to watch the Battle of Balun from Space Battleship Yamato 2199, And then the Battle of Saturn from Space Battleship Yamato 2202. And re-asses.
My personal #1... The arrival of the allied fleet at Earth in Babylon 5 when President Clark turns the defenses on the planet. "Delenn, we need you." "We are there John." I would also add an honorable mention from the original Space Battleship Yamato. 2nd Season, the Earth Fleet at the Battle of Saturn.
Your #1 is a solid choice, but I put your #9 right there. That was the first time we really saw a Starfleet armada of that size. It marked a HUGE change in storytelling and was a tease for everything that followed during the Dominion War. It was also bittersweet, because they lost the station, but promised a fight to get it back. And it was an incredible cliffhanger which ultimately culminated in Sacrifice of Angels, arguably one of the best episodes of Trek ever.
wonderfull compilation, with my personal highlight: Delenn and the white star. But let´s be honest... the appearance of the "reaper-fleet" was epic! I miss Serenity and Babylon 5.
I thought you gave Ambassador Delen short shrift, but then you made it up with Firefly! (Yay for replay statistics also placing B5 at #1and Serenity at #2).
An honorable mention I would have included: Battlestar Galactica: Razor in the flashback scenes; once Husker forms up and they head back and you see actually fleet on fleet combat, even if only a few capital ships- twas nice. Might even throw in the Frontier Day fleet in Picard- starting with that look at the on-screen Odyssey-class Enterprise-F and then all the Starfleet ship types... can have reasonable issues with the stories and still acknowledge it was a pretty fleet (and varied, as it should be)
everything is so well chosen. BUT ... (lol) ... without a doubt, Babylon 5 is as much a love story with The Chosen One, John Sheridan, and Satai Delenn. Sheridan is the Chosen One, and so much of the story revolves around him. The two of them become lovers and marry, and Delenn relinquishes much of her control on Minbar, the Grey Council, and even the religious caste, to devote her time to understanding John and human marriage. John Sheridan wages war, and saves the innocent, and defeats the Shadows. But there are some times when John is vulnerable, and beaten, and near defeat. Delenn is there, to back her man, with power and compassion and grace, and saves John and prevents bloodshed with the power of her words and her wisdom... and the power of her fleet.
The arrival of the fleet of Particular Justice over Reach deserves an honorary mention, it's always chilling to hear "Slipspace rupture detected" over and over.
"It's just, people." Had me actually get a bit emotional. Something about a huge amount of people just rising up and telling the Empire to go fuck itself was really cathartic at the time. It's also fairly realistic as most autocracies of all stripes end up losing to the massed people they had been oppressing.
Id like to mentin 2 more that should of been in honorable mentions Both from SBY 2202 The EDF wave motion fleet arrival And Ambassador barrels fleet arrival
If you look closely at the Battle of Exegol, *NONE* of the reinforcement ships actually participate in the fighting. There is not one scene where any of these ships actually fire on an identifiable target.
For those wondering, I do have a separate video on solo ship arrivals. If you are interested, the link is at the end of the comment. I'm not doing this as self promotion, but to reduce the comments asking about single ship arrivals, such as the Pegasus's and Enterprise E's.
The video: ua-cam.com/video/9tstmBYdTTk/v-deo.htmlsi=tNLzst_DidNXkdMK
The link to part two of ship arrivals: ua-cam.com/video/vQYjpZhc9dY/v-deo.htmlsi=kq_es69guSmNiHyu
only ones worth it for me personally was the the rebal fleet at endor,minbari fleet help B5 and Delenn famous words "Be somewhere else", and then the fleets agianst the reapers but where was the geth fleet ?, and finally the firefly reaver fleet, the rest didnt exacly do anything for me
Was about to say where is Pegasus arriving to save Galactica 😂
@@christopherwaltercheetham5905 oh yeah i totaly forgot about Galactica some cool scenes in the show
I think you should add The Expanse to the list they do have some awesome fights
My question for you is why is the fleet that arrives to safe Picard from the romulan fleet in the Picard show not on here?
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"If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" Thank you Ambassador Delen!
RIP Mira Furlan. Gone too soon. Like so many of the B5 cast.
That is never getting old.
Always bring Delenn to a fight.
I got to see that scene first run, which was back before all the internet spoilers. When the Minbari and Deleen popped in I remember shouting "YES" loud enough my downstairs neighbor asked the next day if I was ok.
@@saberridge6867 I also got to watch it happen. Similarly, I remember screaming with joy and getting teary eyed at the Enterprise rescuing Picard on the final episode of TNG, "All good things".
the massive Minbari fleet entrance in the babylon 5 movie "in the beginning" is awesome, especially given how old the movie is. Theres basically enough of them to encircle the entire earth and they all jump in as one. Thousands of blue jump vortexes fill space dropping thousands of heavy cruisers who immediately open up on the defenders
B5 is easily the top 1-3 scifi series of all time.
I would like to revisit it, but maybe it is just better to let it go. There is no way to replicate the frantic atmosphere of the B5 universe.
That sounds cool, I'm definitely going to check it out if I can find it.
revisit, believe it or not, it gets better each time
@@leonfairhurst7597 Sorry, I meant a new B5 universe series. I enjoy watching most of the originals and the movies. Even if they are not 4K the stories are always compelling.
@@SkywalkerFilms1927 It's called the Battle of the Line
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"It's the.... Oakland??"
I'm guessing the Los Angeles got stuck in traffic
Whether people thought it was a sub-par movie or not, and while not technically a reveal/arrival, I'm a huge fan of the final fleet scene in the Ender's Game movie.
Feel free to remove the Rise of Skywalker one and replace it with the arrival of the Rebel Fleet in Rogue One
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Serenity made me give you a like. Well done.
No rebel fleet arriving on scariff feels a bit criminal
Funny how "starships" are being used as fighters in Star Trek for example. They're thrown around as if they're nimble fighters. How can huge Starships deal with that stress on their frames?
"Do not force us to engage your ships."
"Why not?" _excellent_ choice for a moment there. B5 was phenomenal.
Excellent choice, absolutely. Definitely don't piss Delenn off. :) Only quibble : "Minbari"
I always thought it sounded more like he was pleading cause he reallllly didn't want to have to fight them
Captain Picard: "If the cause is just, and honorable, my crew will give their lives."
Captain Drake: "When you put it that way..."
The truth is you could probably make a top ten just from Babylon 5 ...i love the one here but my fave from the series is Ivanova facing down the shadow Earth force fleet..
And they say men don't like strong women in Sci-fi. Horseshit.
Glad to see the scene from Serenity there! "They won't see this coming. " Later: "Somebody FIRE!"
"Sir! They defeated it with a fleet of California-class ships!"
"....A WHAT of California-class?! A fleet of WHAT NOW?!"
"Sir, California class! And... they were all firing Avocado-Toast torpedoes and HOA violation beams!"
Having them all named after California cities is hilarious, i shudder to think of the ambient temperature of the Fresno class is.
Captain WHAT?
He went from cooking in high-end kitchens to ships now?
Wondering how pimped out the USS Beverly Hills would be...
No matter how many times I watch it, Delenn's arrival in Severed Dreams to save Babylon 5 will always brings me to tears.
How is this not #1.
Not a large fleet but her line is pretty hard to top "if you value your lives be somewhere else"
Great Lady. Great line.
Agreed, Babylon five is 30 years old and still holds up today, A great episode with the best of finales.
Ha, I can't even begin to count how many times I've watched that clip over the years
Man, I peg the Serenity fleet arrival as number one too simply for how the up-til-now cool-as-a-cucumber Operative completely loses his shit as soon as the Reavers appear.
That's what makes them Reavers.
how calm would you be when the armada of space cannibals shows up and they outgun you
@@elijahtourtillott7550 It's not that they _outgun_ the alliance fleet (they don't, all they have is converted civilian ships and they're up against actual warships), it's that thanks to the Operative's decision to park right at the edge of the cloud _they're already in knife-fight range_ which is where the alliance a.) can't really bring its tech superiority to bear and b.) the reavers' crude weapons actually stand a good chance of hitting something.
@@GaldirEonai I was thinking they were outgunned because we know that the reavers have a tendency to just ram everything in dust so by tonnage I would consider this fight being "outgunned" because their ships are also weapons
And this is why on my list of reinforcements arrive/hail Mary's
It's number 2
Solely because you see that man panic
i am a leaf in the wind. watch how i soar.
still Too soon. Love Alan Tudyk as an actor.
Don't 😢
One moment Zen, next shish kebab
@@sabrevanson4412 How DO reavers clean their spears? - still way too soon dammit
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For me, Mass Effect 3 will always be the best Fleet Arrival scene out there. maybe it is because I did not just watch this, I put around 80 hours of work behind this. Every single time.
Exactly! We earned every ship of that armada
The music also boosts it to. 1 shot to win and we got everyone ready to fight. Reapers gonna get hit with the full might of the Milkyway and the last of the Protheien Empire.
Same, 3 games and hundreds of hours went into assembling the best fleet. I also think the Alliance Fleet coming in to save the Destiny Ascension shoulda been on the list. Say what you will about the Council, but I personally think that scene has the same energy as the Ride of the Rohirrim.
@@Capt_Dango "Destiny Ascension. You are all clear. Repeat - You are all clear."
Yes, that's also a great moment, but I must say that this moment was ruined in some localizations. In german for example Joker says: "Sie sind gerettet. Ich wiederhole: Sie sind gerettet." Which translates to: "You are seved. I repeat: You are saved." That sounds a little... well, obvious, I think and therefore stupid. But the whole german localization of the first part was... mediocre at best.
And also probably the only one on here that loses the battle(not counting Shepard and the Crucible that they didn’t even know how to use), getting absolutely wrecked for their trouble.
The Klingons coming in via the Z axis to save the fleet was so badass, i remember watching it as a kid, jumping around my living room, that's how bad ass it was
I remembered that too. I was alone watching it in a basement TV when it aired. It was so awesome, but wasn't able to share that moment with anyone.
Not just that but coming out of the sun. My head canon is that some solar emissions masked their approach or something but it definitely was a callback to WW2 dogfighting tactics.
I fist pumped. I figure they probably were all cloaked, and probably approached from a direction where that many cloaked ships approach would not be detected easily. (a large group of cloaked ships would cause one weird distortion)
Same fam!!
@@jutau it was a long mission, but now it is completed. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for including the Minbari ships defending B5. The perfect victory, making the enemy leave without firing a shot. The scene from Serenity is indeed one of my favorite fleet arrivals.
Delens ultimatum is the most badass one in Sci Fi history.
As far as ultimatums go, for sure. My personal all-time shock entrance is still Giles’ “I’d like to test that theory.”
rival: Ivanova, with the Wrath of God, Death Incarnate.
The four Ori Toiletships bulldozing the combined fleets of the entire Milky Way is an excellent villainous counterpoint to this stuff.
lol, i also always thought they look like toilet seat ships.
What are Ori Toiletships?
@@lordzaboem Ori battleships shaped like toilet seats. Big oblong U's.
Mass Effect 3 still the best because of its emotional weight seeing that fleet you'd worked for.
Arrival of the Alliance reinforcements from ME 1 is also nice paragon route of course. Also Sovereign him self had quite the entrance too.
Im Commander Shepard. And this is the full power of the Milkyway *destroys the Reapers*
..too bad that 2 lines are missing : "Quarian fleet reporting, Geth fleet reporting" Incomplete !
My fave are the Rebel Alliance arriving on Scariff and Riker commanding the Federation Fleet facing off against the Zhat Vash over Gulion 4. Close seconds are Janeway commanding the void alliance as they jointly escape the void in Voyager and the Seperatist fleet arriving over Cristophsis as well as the Keylon fleet joining the Union vs the Moclan-Krill alliance.
I'm wondering if the California Class fleet is a nod to that last episode in Picard when Riker commands the copy/paste fleet against the Romulans.
At Guilan 4 the copy and paste fleet arrival was meh. But Acting Captain Will Riker commanding the USS Zheng He.....pure Goosebumps.
I’m glad some one else said scariff, probably the best space battle of the modern Star Wars films
I love in serenity how quickly that smile was wiped off his face 😂
Also that line
"SOMEBODY FIRE!!!"
that babylon 5 scene has always been a favorite and is probably one of the best lines ever spoken ever to force an enemy withdrawal
I am going to recommend another one. The Shadow attack on Quadrant 14 seen in Babylon 5 "The Coming of Shadows".
It's only 3 ships but in the span of 90 seconds we finally got to see the absolute horrifying power the Shadows have.
I was thinking that or the Battle of the Line; just seeing a wall of jump gates pouring out dozens of Minbari cruisers- each one able to splash any Earth capital ship with near impunity- pouring out with Luna in the background...
@@Sephiroth144 I saw many people on this video recommend the Battle of the Line from In the Beginning. That is why I did not recommend that one.
I did not see anyone recommend the Q14 attack. It looks like you and others agree might with me.
Until that moment, we only saw glimpses (a few seconds at best) of Shadow ships. They came and disappeared like ghosts. The attack on Q14 was exactly what we expected it to be: mortals trying to fight gods. You could not help but watch in horror as the Narn get wiped out. This feeling is repeated at the end of the Narn-Centauri War with the Battle of Gorash 7. Except in that battle, you watch in horror and sadness as the entire remaining Narn fleet is wiped out.
@@brianwhedon8442 For me, anyway, the arrival of the Shadows at Q14 doesn't have the same impact as the arrival of the Minbari fleet does over Earth.
I don't think Q14 really solidified the Shadows as "God Tier"; it could have been a surprise attack by a superior force; we only saw the Narn fighters respond against Capital ships. (I mean, the initial hit was three capitals against a civilian space station that had a cruiser docked with it; not really a challenge foe with the element of surprise) Gorash VII, however, when it showed the utter futility and "godhood" (or Ancient-ness) of the Shadows compared to the younger races- a complete Narn battle group, alert and ready to fight, getting toyed with like a cat with a mouse... that, to me, demonstrated the power differential much more effectively.
@@Sephiroth144 Yes I agree. Both battles book-end the Narn Centauri War. One with awe and the other with despair.
@@Sephiroth144 I think the Battle of the Line from In the Beginning is definitely up on the list and worthy of being in this video.
That moment was one of the rare times on TV where the visuals matched the foreboding. We spent 3 seasons of Babylon 5 where characters referenced back to the BotL as being a massive space battle where humankind was fighting to just save some of itself from extinction. No chance of winning whatsoever.
And that fleet jumping in all at once was exactly as shocking to see as it was to watch. We now knew why the characters that survived that battle were so traumatized by it.
“Somebody fire !!!” 😂😂
GREATEST. LINE. EVER!
Serenity is the Star Wars movie we deserved from that era.
My favorite was when the entire Rohirrim fleet came in to attack the Uruk-Hai assault ships invading the Gondor system. Then my next favorite is when they maneuvered to face the much more formidable mercenary Haradrim Dreadnought flotilla despite the massive tonnage disadvantage.
This is a funny comment, and I would watch the shit out of that
I see what you did there. (At least in the first half of your comment)
Vulcans=Elves, Romulans=Drow, Klingorks.
"I am a leaf on the wind"... "if you value your lives, be somewhere else"... two of my favorite lines in science fiction
There's in Star Trek TNG when Picard is trying ti get the Romulans to be reasonable in the Neutral zone. He caps he argument when Klingon Ships decloak. The Romulans then decide that diplomacy is a better course of action.
“I expected more than an empty threat from you, Picard.”
“Then you shall have it.”
Picard to Romulans: “Shall we die together..?”
Romulan Captain: **flinches**
Riker grinning like a fool in the background.
Now THAT was a better fleet moment than the DS9 stuff. It's not about battle or numbers, it's about using them well.
@@Ryvaken Apples and Oranges. But yeah it is a very, very good scene. Even had the Klingon theme creeping up on you🤘
Seconded.
Picard - "Are you prepared to die today, Tomalok?"
Tomalok - "I expected more from you than an idol threat Picard."
Picard - "Then you shall have it. Mr Worf"
Worf - Aye sir. (Klingon theme music playing) "Klingon Warships, armed and ready sir."
Thank you for including the Mass Effect scene. It had so much impact after building up that group of allies for multiple playthroughs of three games, it deserves to stand with the others. Delenn also can't be beat even if her fleet is small.
You know you've played Mass Effect too many times when you look at that clip and your first thought is "Hmmm, looks like Shepard didn't save the Citadel Council in ME1 in this playthrough..." 😆
@@subsidizer292I was legit looking for this 😂
Loved it. Nice someone finally put this together. I still say that the Babylon 5 one is the best. "If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" ,..maybe you had to be there when it first aired. I was :P😃❤ Also always loved that Stargate Atlantis one too.
I was hoping it would be there. Only 4 ships but Delenn’s statement had more power than any of those larger fleets.
Of them all Delens arrival will always be the greatest flex.
It doesn't matter how many times I complete the game, that Alliance fleet arrival in ME3 never ceases to give me goosebumps. Simply epic.
I love all these but I think my personal favorite is #4, only because Delenn is so badass in this scene - "If you value your lives, BE somewhere else."
Edit: After reading though some of the comments, I am glad I am not the only one who loves this moment.
yep. we all felt the same. Such an emotional build up in that episode, then when it looked like the gamble failed and the battle was lost, Delenn storms in.
The Nova Corps arrival in Guardians of the Galaxy always gives me chills, worth an honorable mention at least. Wish we saw more of them.
I almost forgot the Fleet fight in Serenity! I completely agree with this list! Epic Fleet engagements! Canceling Firefly was on of the biggest Tv show blunders of our time!
An interesting comparison here. Serenity had a 40 million dollar budget (and spent 39 million of it), a year of production time, and has at least a dozen different ship types in clear view. The Rise of Skywalker, with a 400+ million dollar budget, 2 years, and a fanbase with scads of high resolution ship designs they'd gladly sell rights to use, had to reuse assets for the primary enemy ships (old Imperial 1's scaled 50% bigger because they made a model for Rogue 1), and extensively copy pasted ships to fill out the count, including ships that made no sense but they had models for, like Han's cargo hauler, and kept most of them at arms length.
With Serenity, they all actually *cared* about it. Disney may have the money, but they don't give a shit about the production beyond their bottom line.
Yeah, I definitely would _not_ include the Rise of Skywalker one. Not simply for the cheesy cut & paste, but that moments before, it was supposed to be difficult to make it through to where the Empire was. (Having stated that, I wouldn't have included the Imperial ships as that was just copy pasta over and over.)
I miss when ships were models and not CGI.
I don't think that matters here though; this ranks the presentation of the fleets, not their composition.
But yes, Disney went _extremely_ lazy on ship designs. They should've just given the _last movie_ at least another year to finish.
Not just the copy paste on the reinforcements but the criminally tiny amount of actual fighting shown. We have a huge fleet show up and it does almost nothing on screen. it may as well have been a matt painting of a fleet
The Rise of Skywalker scene also looks like visual vomitus. There's a lot going on, but it's all very ugly.
That B5 scene with Deleen still gets me every time...
Not having the battlestar Pegasus jumping in to save the galactica is criminal 😢
Single ship (and fighters), this is explicitly about fleets.
While it was an amazing entrance of a single ship, the definition of a fleet that was provided was 3 or more ships excluding fighters, the Pegasus was the only ship in that instance and therefore doesn't qualify
@@GaldirEonai still a better scene than almost all the ones given in the video.
@@MrSMLEWeebstill in a seperate vid he made: check the pinned comment
That pan out of BSG getting pummelled and then you hear the whoosh, whoosh as rockets/missiles and guns fire then that big beautiful bastard soaring past with all batteries firing. God. Damn.
This was a good list, with lots of great memories, but was surprised my favorite sci-fi fleet arrival didn’t even get a mention. Final episode of the Orville, the Kaylon wedding party. Easily my most memorable.
I love the operatives, his calm demeanour goes right out the airlock when Mel brings the reaver fleet to the party.
4:45 there's an animated version of this, in Tartovsky's 2003 clone wars, which is even more epic. The camera pans up, into space, showing hundreds of stars, and then zooms in, revealing that the "stars" are actually thousands of ships slugging it out in orbit.
The increadible Battle for Sol in Mass Effect 3 demonstrates why I hate the Battle of Exogol despite them being very similar in concept.
The combined fleets in ME were put together after months of diplomacy, fierce fighting, planning and co-ordination. So the pay-off from seeing the results of your dozens of hours in game, is amazing. Very satisfying.
The 'Galaxy Fleet' in RoS on the other hand was basically put together in an afternoon and brought in as a completely unbelievable shock reveal. Just feels hollow.
There's only so much I can suspend my disbelief...
Destiny 2's Excision mission features the Coalition Fleet deploying troops, but I don't know if it counts here as the players have seen it over the Last City since Lightfall.
My main issue with it is two things
1) no way all those ships came in at the same time because of hyperdrive speeds
2) THEY HAD THE BEST CHANCE TO SHOW SOME GOOD QUALITY SHIP VS SHIP COMBAT AND WASTED IT
GAH
@@omega13whitelucario95 They Probably didn't have any money left, other than that i agree.
@@jamesrichardson8484 listen regardless, it was a cool scene that just was so wasted
One inclusion Babylon 5, when the Vorlon fleet arrives to take out the Shadows. And also when the Shadows arrive to take otut the Narns in Gorash VII
And the Battle of the Line, when the Minbari fleet jumps in
ok, that was not Bad, but i miss Yondus Funeral... Sad and beautiful...
Little bummed we didn't see the Fleet arrival in the Battle of Antarctica in SG1. That was such a bad ass show of force from the Tau'ri.
Great scenes but that Firefly ones wins in my mind. That fear that suddenly replaced that smug smile when the reavers can out of the clouds was perfect. But that line from Delen was pretty damn awesome. She was such a powerful character in that show.
"If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
Amazing how many Earth Alliance Captains suddenly remembered they'd left the stove on at home.
Damn I forgot about that master piece in Serenity.
9 was the most excited I ever got watching Sci-fi you never saw task forces like that in Star Trek until that episode it got me excited. That being said 4 was probably the most badass fleet arrival in Sci-fi.
For me, the arrival of the "Galaxy fleet" in Star Wars 9 was the stupidest thing. For one, the logistics of it simply don't make sense. To have a fleet arrive simultaneously means they would have had to gather the fleet somewhere else, like the Rebel Fleet did in Episode 6.
And they made such a huge deal about how difficult it was to reach Exogol even with a small ship and suddenly, tens of thousands of ships of all sizes arrive there at the same time?
Not only was that the stupidest thing, but where is the huge battle that should evolve from that massive fleet? It's nowhere reflected in the movie. Yes, there is some action after the arrival, but none of the grand scale with so many ships. Such a waste..
the defiant joining the fleet always cracked me up, because if i remember correctly this happens at the end of a season? and at the start of the next season the opening ~10 minutes is bashir talking about how many ships they've lost lmao
Well I don't really care the ones complaining. This is a really good compilation of what you believe are the best fleet arrival scenes. The one where Poe has just started to give up hope and then Lando chimes in always elicits an emotional response from me. :)
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@@MultiGamingNetwork03 thank you! I will say that it is impossible to make everyone happy, as the ones that some love, others hate.
cant have a top 10 fleet arrivals without the OG Star Wars Endor arrival
I have to ask how do you not have the Rebel Fleet arriving at Scariff? One of the all time epic fleet arrivals.
Also, Prometheus (with escort craft) arriving in Antarctica is a great fleet arrival moment.
Not a fleet, but worth two worth honorable mention: Pegasus saving Galactica; The Apollo saving the Agamemnon.
"Apollo to Agamemnon, we have monitored the situation. Hold on to your hats..."
Awesome moment! But just one ship saving one ship whereas this video is featuring "fleets" so I see why they left it off.
I couldn't be more disappointed when that Exogal one happened, what a fucking awful arrival it is, worst space battle in Scifi.
@7:10
For all its many flaws, this moment, this single beat, was the peak of the sequel trilogy. The most meaningful, important and beautiful thing it had to say.
"There are more of *us* ."
"They have no navy."
"It's not a navy sir, it's just...people."
That would have been true if the people navy was in any way earned, explained, or built up to, or made any logical sense whatsoever as to how it could have been rallied, coordinated, assembled, and traveled there.
Coolest Star Trek tng moment ever was when the enterprise is met by Romulan war birds and Picard asked if they were prepared to die today as the Klingons de cloak and are surrounding them. Such an amazing moment.
star wars pretty much sucks at everything fleet space battle.
One of the best entrances of all time IMO is Delenn arriving in a Whitestar with three Minbari battlecruisers to protect Babylon 5.
'Only one human captain has ever survived battle with the Minbari. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else.'
Humans destroyers leave....
I'm going to have to disagree on the first point. The Battle of Endor is a masterpiece.
Rogue One’s fleet battle also whips
I am a huge B5 fan to the core. But before I was one, the Battle of Endor was my benchmark of epic space battles that was only demoted after watching Sheridan's fleets fight the Shadows and later both Shadows and Vorlons.
Some of the Battlestar Galactica remake space battles deserve a mention too. Some great fleet reveals in that when the Cylons appear and launch their attacks!
Yeah there's a half dozen or so fleet reveals from BSG and The Expanse that would bump out the majority of this list, surprised to not even see one included from either show.
Going into this, I hope there is the Shipmaster scene from Halo. "They outnumber us 3 to 1!", followed by, "Then it is an even fight."
I'll do one better with three words
"Slipspace rupture detected."
Small pedantic correction, that isn't Cardassia, that's the system Chintoka in your honerable mentions.
Thank you for confirmation. I was also surprised to see the battle of Chintoka there. 😅
Nice list. :) I would like to submit another candidte for consideration. From Babylon 5: Episode "Walkabout"...with the White Star in threat of destruction by a group of Shadow Vessels, even as a Minbari Cruiser with Telepaths attempts to prevent the Shadows from destroying them, G'Kar, having been spurred to action by an outraged Security Chief, gathers a fleet of ships from the Non-Aligned Worlds, as well as a Narn Cruiser, to even the odds.
So many great fleet battles… the vorlon shadow final showdown… the fleet arriving at earth to end Clarkes reign…. Top series.
@@kevsecker3182 It sucks the show was always on the cutting block. For 5 seasons they never knew if they were going to get anther season. So JMS had to write according this is the last season. So even though he took chances with getting renewed. He knew season 4 was the last and that was it. So he rushed the Shadow War and Earth War to its conclusions. You know full well if he had a 5 season already green lit he would have waited and drawn out the conflict. But man season 4 finishing up all those storylines. It's such a great fucking final season to go out on. Season 5 not so much but B5 is peak Scifi seasons 2-4.
I searched the comments to see if another B5 fan would have mentioned this.
This is a great moment, the G'Tok jumps in and opens up both batteries and that kills the Shadow cruiser. When Sheridan says thanks to G'Kar for saving them, he chuckles "I am not on board the G'Tok captain..." and the jumppoint forms and out comes a bunch of Narn fighters and ships from 3+ League races. The music shifts so well and you see Lyta on the bridge of the Whitestar looking out at the fleet of ships and she hears the voice of Kosh clearly say
"...And so it begins"
Nobody talks about Wing Commander movie version? I grew up watching the movie, i know it gets hated for not being game accurate, but the storyline and movie-verse on its own are quite awesome and well-made to me.
Yeah, we don't talk enough about the Wing Commander movie. It's been a while, though, and I don't remember it very well. I do remember liking the scene where the enemy fleet arrives one at a time, and they get ambushed as they arrive.
Saw this Reaver Scene (Serenity) at least 10 years ago last time.....Still rrmember this Scene😂.....Still be Clearlest moment I remember from the movie...akong with couple others....literally moment the Bad Guy realizes how Screwed/Fucked he is
Im surprised the High Charrity fleet arriving at Delta Halo didn’t show up on this list, but excellent choices!
I may not agree with the ranking on all of them, but I thoroughly enjoyed remembering these scenes.
You could make a whole video on mass effect space battles! I get SUPER PUMPED watching that or Star Wars…!
Technically, by 20th Century large navy standards (USN, RN, IJN) a division of ships is 2-5; a squadron is two or more divisions; a flotilla is two or more squadrons; a fleet is two or more flotillas for about 32+ ships.
By 18th-19th Century standards a “full” fleet had three squadrons, the Van(guard), the Center, and the Rear(guard) commanded by a Vice (Van) Admiral, an Admiral, and a Rear Admiral, usually with about 4-8 ships under the direct command of each, for about 12-24, although there might only be two squadrons (and admirals, of various grades). Suffren’s “fleet” in the Indian Ocean was really nothing more than a squadron of about 4-8 ships-of-line.
Public knowledge has plummeted so badly in the last 50 years that even reporters (who should know better) have taken to calling anything gray that floats a “battleship” and more than one a “fleet”. Science fiction and space fantasy have perverted terms out of all recognition with the label “battlecruiser” slapped on ships haphazardly with little awareness that such a ship was fast, heavily armed and WEAKLY protected.
Star Wars perverted the term “destroyer” from an escort (“torpedo boat destroyer”) into a capital ship. The term “dreadnought” has lost all meaning as well, having originally meant a capital ship with a uniform armament of the heaviest weapons available with no intermediate sized weapons between that calibre of weapon and purely defensive armament. Post-WW2 glorification, and historical misinterpretation of Taranto, Pearl Harbor and Kuantan has also imbued the term with an air of obsolescence that belies the fact that these ships were the ne plus ultra of the early 20th Century. Also lost is the fact that at Kuantan and even as late as 1944-1945 it was taking the effort of an entire fleet of carriers to bring down the largest modern ships of the type.
Taranto and Pearl Harbor proved nothing other than any ship of any type can be sunk at anchor or at pierside, especially if taken by surprise. Kuantan proved 80 peasants could overwhelm 2 knights…especially if the knights were armed only with daggers and the peasants with spears, which would be a fair analogy for the relative effectiveness of the two capital ships AA in the battle…which distinctly contrasted with the AA firepower of modern American battleships less than a year later.
That is a detailed breakdown of the definition of a fleet; thank you for posting it.
Perhaps you're taking all this a little too seriously. A naval officer will be expected to fully understand all these terms: for laymen a fleet is a few ships.
You’re completely misunderstanding the carrier vs. battleship matchup. The fact it takes a ridiculous amount of aircraft to sink battleships is irrelevant because the battleship can only defend itself and has basically no offensive capability against an aircraft carrier, simply because it can’t get close enough to open fire.
THAT is why battleships are obsolete and why carriers rendered them obsolete. Surviving is not the same thing as actually doing your job.
Your peasants vs. armoured knights analogy is misleading for that reason: what it ACTUALLY shows is that armoured knights vs. Peasants armed with long-range weapons and horses of their own will at best result in the armoured knights surviving but without being able to kill any of the peasants.
In the sci-fi Pentalogy I'm writing, I am relatively picky about my terminology for groups of ships, and ranks. Of course, some of my definitions of smaller ships (scouts & corvettes are a little squishy), but I am fairly picky also about the naming convention for different levels of ships. (If you know the naming convention, you could see the name of a ship and know whether it is a battleship, cruiser, destroyer or other)
Regarding the 20th century ships types. Yes that are the post-Second London Treaty definition. Arguably even after that Treaty, those definitions were not exactly adhered to. But anyway, by that point, the originals meanings had been warped as much if not more than in Sci-Fi.
Starting from battlecruisers, Imperial Germany built them as basically faster battleships, with armour and guns scaled down in numbers or weight (ergo thickness and diameter) to allow it. Meanwhile, the Hood was laid down as a battlecruiser, but by its sinking had been defacto uparmoured to fast battleships standards. And this was a ship class that had by that point, existed for barely more than 30 years.
Destroyers were slightly older, but as you pointed out, their name came from their original role as "torpedo boat destroyers". Yet as open ocean warfare became more viable thanks to radar, outside the operating range of said boats. As torpedoes became more advanced and longer ranged. Destroyers evolved to outright replace torpedo boats in fleet actions, requiring a new class, light cruisers, be concieved to hunt them down. As aircrafts and submarines became the new threat to larger vessels, destroyers returned to their screening role, but now with completely different weapons and requirements. Today, destroyers are as large as old cruisers, to escort carriers (for most fleets) or battlecruisers (for Soviet fleets) on long voyages, as well as to carry all possible weapon systems to fight any conceivable threat or theater.
However because submarines and aircrafts are just that insidious, the term Frigate, abandoned after the transition to ironclads. Was resurrected. Except instead of being the smallest ship with the supply necessary to cruise alone through oceans. Ergo defacto a London light cruiser. It was applied to a whole new type of ship, one meant for anti air but especially anti submarine escort or hunting work alone.
I agree with #1. Still one of the best large space battle scenes.
the very first time i've agreed with the number 1 spot
A couple of years back I watched a list of creepiest music videos where basically everything was boring so you'd never believe they'd be right about the number 1 spot but they absolutely were.
The Orville ha d a great fleet scene.
That was arriving to a wedding!
Yes! There are more than one. I forgot them in my comment. Thank you for that reminder!
I am a bit disappointed Ender's game isn't included but these in the video are also pretty memorable so I am not as disappointed
I was going to make a similar comment... but did a keyword search for "Ender" and saw you got it. Thanks for mentioning hopefully channel will see it.
I have to mention because I would hate myself if I didn't the arrival of the wave motion gun fleet in space battleship Yamato 2202 during the battle of Saturn and I also just for fairness the arrival of the Gamilan fleet a little while later at I think earth itself or maybe it was mars. I can't remember off the top of my head which defense line they were at but most likely it was mars.
I know, it is not a fleet as mentioned in the video. But the uss enterprise saving spock in his time ship ....
Good list, but personally,. the Lower Decks sequence, which had heart to it, is FAR better than the Rise of Skywalker sequence which was just big for the hell of it.
The Ori arrival and destruction of the fleet is a heartbreaking scene
Your missing one of the best ever: Clear Skies 3, the end epic battle:
JR - Sasha, it’s time!
Evil villain - Time for what?
*Sasha decloaks and opens a cyno (music spools up to Paul Van Dyk’s ‘Nothing But You’ at about :26 second point-so epic…)*
Calderi Fleet Commander - JUMP!!!
Evil Villan - ROURKE, what have you done!?
Look it up and add it to your list. You’re welcome! 😊
I can't get behind anything Starwars Disney Trilogy. Picard S1 and S2, Just no. STD is trash except the Binary Star arrival. MORE quantity and MORE flash, is not usually better. CTRL C CTRL V is lazy.
Rogue One, when Admiral Raddus jumps in to help the team stealing the Death Star plans. It had a great "the calvary has arrived" sense to it. Followed closely by Darth Vader jumping in to stop them.
Babylon 5 is wonderful to see and I love her blatant threat, but I think I agree with #1 spot just for the line of "SOMEBODY FIRE!"
The very best was not in a sift movie or TV show but in The Longest Day, You know those Three Thousand Ships You said the Allies don’t have, Well they got THEM! ✊🏽👍🏽🇺🇸🇬🇧
“There are more of us Poe, More of us”
how did they even get that many ships lol
You need to watch the Battle of Balun from Space Battleship Yamato 2199,
And then the Battle of Saturn from Space Battleship Yamato 2202.
And re-asses.
My personal #1... The arrival of the allied fleet at Earth in Babylon 5 when President Clark turns the defenses on the planet.
"Delenn, we need you."
"We are there John."
I would also add an honorable mention from the original Space Battleship Yamato. 2nd Season, the Earth Fleet at the Battle of Saturn.
Your #1 is a solid choice, but I put your #9 right there. That was the first time we really saw a Starfleet armada of that size. It marked a HUGE change in storytelling and was a tease for everything that followed during the Dominion War. It was also bittersweet, because they lost the station, but promised a fight to get it back. And it was an incredible cliffhanger which ultimately culminated in Sacrifice of Angels, arguably one of the best episodes of Trek ever.
wonderfull compilation, with my personal highlight: Delenn and the white star. But let´s be honest... the appearance of the "reaper-fleet" was epic! I miss Serenity and Babylon 5.
I thought you gave Ambassador Delen short shrift, but then you made it up with Firefly! (Yay for replay statistics also placing B5 at #1and Serenity at #2).
An honorable mention I would have included: Battlestar Galactica: Razor in the flashback scenes; once Husker forms up and they head back and you see actually fleet on fleet combat, even if only a few capital ships- twas nice.
Might even throw in the Frontier Day fleet in Picard- starting with that look at the on-screen Odyssey-class Enterprise-F and then all the Starfleet ship types... can have reasonable issues with the stories and still acknowledge it was a pretty fleet (and varied, as it should be)
everything is so well chosen. BUT ... (lol) ... without a doubt, Babylon 5 is as much a love story with The Chosen One, John Sheridan, and Satai Delenn. Sheridan is the Chosen One, and so much of the story revolves around him. The two of them become lovers and marry, and Delenn relinquishes much of her control on Minbar, the Grey Council, and even the religious caste, to devote her time to understanding John and human marriage. John Sheridan wages war, and saves the innocent, and defeats the Shadows. But there are some times when John is vulnerable, and beaten, and near defeat. Delenn is there, to back her man, with power and compassion and grace, and saves John and prevents bloodshed with the power of her words and her wisdom... and the power of her fleet.
Ima pass on that Exegol scene...but I'll watch the rest.
Also, the Cali class one is my favorite. Now I just need to watch all of Lower Decks.
This ship is full of misfits and dysfunctional team second to the USS Cerritos.
Star Trek Prodigy ( I may have gotten quote wrong )
Allied fleet? It's the gorram galaxy.
"Stand fast, stand strong, stand together. Hackett out."
The arrival of the fleet of Particular Justice over Reach deserves an honorary mention, it's always chilling to hear "Slipspace rupture detected" over and over.
"It's just, people." Had me actually get a bit emotional. Something about a huge amount of people just rising up and telling the Empire to go fuck itself was really cathartic at the time. It's also fairly realistic as most autocracies of all stripes end up losing to the massed people they had been oppressing.
Id like to mentin 2 more that should of been in honorable mentions
Both from SBY 2202
The EDF wave motion fleet arrival
And Ambassador barrels fleet arrival
No anime? I suppose Capt Yammy on the Andy showing up at Saturn doesn't qualify? #SBY2202
If you look closely at the Battle of Exegol, *NONE* of the reinforcement ships actually participate in the fighting. There is not one scene where any of these ships actually fire on an identifiable target.