How expensive is it to own a 2007 BMW 525d (E60/E61)? Total cost of ownership [TCO]
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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Are BMWs really as expensive to maintain as the horror stories would imply? Let's see how this sensible, Diesel family wagon has fared in that regard.
This 2007 BMW 525d Touring with a 3l M57 Diesel engine seems to be the perfect family car. But the family needs to have a bit of money left over to afford the maintenance on the car.
Warranties on old BMWs. Totally worth it!
Sarcasm? 😂
I own two old BMW's and I am the warranty!😒 Seriously though, listen to Mario, don't buy an old BMW without warranty, unless you like constantly fixing stuff and possibly being stranded.😄
As a BMW owner, I'm not surprised at all by these costs. You know what the funny thing is? I'm actually happy, 'cause I've owned several Audis that were even worse.
Hahaha
Thank you for sharing this
When buying an Audi - just get some 1.9 TDI manual :P I have 4 lol
Bro this same car in Eastern European countries is like 10 times less expensive to own 😂 Here, instead of replacing the turbo, they repair it so it's much cheaper. For the diesel particulate filter, they just drill out the stuff inside and code the sensor to not give an error. Labor is also cheap. Plus OEM parts are also cheap since there's a ton of companies out of Poland/Romania/etc that make them. For eg. I owned an E46 for about 6 years, drove it 60k km and I only spent like 3-4k in repairs + service. Shit tier countries have their perks I guess 😂
Just buy a Toyota
This warranty is a minor miracle. They usually know how to make fat profits. Hard to imagine that other BMW of these model years are any better.
I love these TCO videos! If you can do more with other people's cars that would be great!
Yes they are really great also for car shopping. They give you a feeling on how expensive certain cars are. To make a TCO analysis you need to open s car first!
I really like that analytic approach to the total costs. If you would ask most people what it costs them to drive 100km with their car probably no one would say that it's 100€.
These old cars really need a lot of money. I drive an Audi A4 3.0tdi that is around ~13ct/km in repairs, ~8ct/km insurance+taxes and ~13ct/km in fuel (around 10l/100km) over the last 55000km. TCO = 34ct/km.
I've done everything myself except for a timing chain job and try to use good quality third party parts, so the repair costs are relativly low.
OMG, the differential breaking down is frightening. It shouldn't be that weak! My 2007 Lexus GS300 that I owned from last November onwards and with wich I've done 13,000 km has cost me under 2000€ in maintenance : rear complete brake job, water pump and accessory belt, Michelin tires, an A/C inspection, some instrument cluster and door panel clips replaced because of rattles, and one big service including engine oil, differential, transmission, cooling and braking fluid, air filter, cabin filter and spark plugs. Plus I've added LED bulbs everywhere and a Bluetooth audio HiFi kit. And most of these items are going to last between 5 and 10 years. God I gotta love my car even more that I did! It has about 200,000 km on it and I thought it was a lot of maintenance, I'm reconsidering the situation 😂
To be fair, I went to the Autobahn with some friends. The Lexus was the most powerful and yet struggled the most because as any good pre-2010s car primarily design for Americans, its suspension is insanely soft, I had to slow down too much in corners. I caught back thanks to long straight portions but that was my only joker. The fastest all-around was the Polo GTI and the one with a Mégane was still more efficient than me and that makes me want quite a bit a BMW 5-Series or a MB E-Class but if the maintenance looks like this... I think I can live with it 😂
Very good idea to do these TCOs on friends' cars. I love them and it is an opportunity to have more of that content.
Wow, that warranty was a bargain!
Hi Mario, another very nice video from you with a Swiss detailsm and accuracy ... You always got me reminding how high maintenance & running costs in CH.
Except the yearly insurance (!) and recently increased fuel prices (!), my brain always tends to delete those costs such as oil changes, small repairs, tyre changes.. I think i need to do some spread sheets as well :)))
The main part of why it's so expensive is Switzerland - and I guess everything had to be done 110% perfectly. In Eastern Europe we wouldn't do half of these things, use replacement non OEM parts, and the labor would be 4-6 times cheaper.
So, it seems that after 100k km the car starts to throw you a lot of expensive maintenance. Perhaps a good idea is to sell the car before it turns 100k km OR buy one with 150k km that got all the receipts of the work done like this one from your friend ;-)
Staggering costs
I don't know, sounds rather insane. You'd think that a run off the mill, middle class car wouldn't beat high performance cruisers in the maintenance department, but apparently it does. I'm fairly surprised, gotta admit. On the other hand I don't understand why it always has to be a dealership shop, without it he probably could have cut that cost in half. Did the insurance he bought required this or did he just wanted to do it this way? Especially if he intends to keep this car, he could have chosen a general mechanic. Thus my opinion is simple. You convince him to use normal mechanics for any future repairs, he saves a lot of money in the process and we split the saves franks three ways, one third for him, one third for you and one third goes to me as the guy who had this idea in the first place.
He is a very particular individual, even brings his motorbike to the BMW dealer. The main dealer is just part of his jive. They are expensive but even a good indy won't be *that* much cheaper. But I will forward him your proposal. 😉
no surprise there, lots more of those sold than the hi-perf/hi-end ones and so more milkies to milk dry for them on the long term. 😏
We own a 2005 audi a3 with the 1.9 tdi engine and the total amount we spent on repairs and labour between 2010 (since we own this car) and now 2023 is 4000€ in Germany. We bought it with 80.000km and it has 320.000km on the clock right now. First turbo, first clutch, first dpf. The only things we replaced were the suspension items, thermostat, and the usuall interval pieces lime the waterpump. I cant imagine owning such a shitbox and spending 5k every year. A turbo should last a lifetime of the car.
Wow that is ironic I paid the same price in dollars for my M5 😬
Oh no the comments give me a bad feeling about this.
There's something missing on the video, u haven't spoken about the faulty changing lane signal manual switch.......that most bmw drivers don't know exists anyway 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
damn i wanted buy bmw. but after this i maybe stick with my honda jazz. in 4 years 40k km i spent just 400 euros for maintainance
Genuinely, in Ireland this amount of work would never been done, this car would have fixed a lot cheaper or probably scrapped!
I was wondering the other day where all the e60 BMW’s had gone!….
Yes that warranty definitely worth it's money. And after all, this car is too expensive for own. Maybe because bmw dealership is an expensive place, or maybe Switzerland is expensive overall. But 1500$ for window is too much, so as astronomical price for turbo. But on the other side, people in a normal country can afford such expenses
A diesel turbo gave up at 125k? yikes
It's a cute car I like it , but I would get pissed at spending 6 grand on a turbo for a freaking diesel engine that's supposed to be robust.
In my opinion it's ok to spend a lot of money on a car if it's your hobby but this one is too expensive and not fun enough to justify.
I'd prefer a Volvo v60 (probably cheaper to run, about the same HP, manual, diesel) or if you want something that would be really special that fills about the same spot as this car a V70R (it's a petrol tho).
Great review man!! i don t know how you guys in that country can aford cars, what salary you have there? 🤣🤣
Never enough. 🥲
Great video. Better to buy a newer car I think.
Horrendous costs for a quite boring car ...
I don't understand how can Swiss people afford cars.
Salaries are relatively high compared to other countries.
@@swisscarguy I have heard, but not that super high either.
I don't get this. If You can spend that much money on car, why buy old car for 12 grand, but not nice for 100?
Jesus, are you able to do anything by your self?????
Just buy a Toyota
Terrible car
I think this guy is LOADED! This car depreciaties more than BTC! 😎
Intergalactic mileage: cheers from my 2012 F11 530d X-drive. Just pasts 339’000 km this weekend.
Well , maybe i do my "total cost" video on my Phaeton W12 in Czech Republic , right now in servis for new starter motor .
Nice job as always !! Thank you
I expect it to be cheaper than a V10 TDI Phaeton. 😉
That would be amazing! Or deeply traumatic. 😅
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Yea , V10 TDI here selling for 2000Euro , nobody want pay 1000Euro for fuel injector , ....x10 , lol
@@swisscarguy Maybe not , maybe both options , but when I think about the prices of some parts, I say, "how is that even possible" and yes I have an old AMG Mercedes S class, but I wasn't ready for the Phaeton, lol😄
man ... diesel ... wagon ... for the price of a brand new car or 10y petrol enthusiast model
this is a true fan , thumbs up for the channel
Crazy costs! Makes you wonder if leasing is not a better option, or buying 1-2 year old with 2 years warranty (eg BMW Premium Selection) and then sell after 2 years
The right choice is to stay away from bad cars ;)
@@jakubzbroda BMWs are bad cars?
On a new-ish BMW 5-Series depreciation alone will be in the neighborhood of CHF 10k/year (these cars are so expensive!). So, I think it's very unlikely to be cheaper than an older car. Sure, repairs suck, but so does depreciation.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 A car which ticks all the boxes (speed, handling etc), but is notoriously unreliable, is a bad car in my opinion. You might have other priorities and that's fine. With a 2007 car you know what you're going into as there's a lot of data online. I won't generalize which brand and model is good and which is not - consumer reports are doing better job at it than a random guy in youtube comments like me.
TCO on my 2011 VW Passat CC 2.0tdi is currently about 18 cent per km. €2,688 for aporox 15,000 km over the last 18 months
That is awesomely cheap. I wonder if you had any large repairs. Usually one large repair could bump averages up.
@@swisscarguy no big repairs, insurance 685, motor tax 270, maintenance including inspections 630 and approx 1,100 on fuel. 0 depreciation so far as the cheapest comparable is currently about 500 more than what I paid 18 months ago but wanted to be conservative so left at zero. When I bought the car I budgeted about 30 to 40 cent per km and in the long run expect it to end up around that
Sounds expensive but a new one might cost 50k Euros+ lol :-)
A new BMW 530d can cost over 100k it's insane.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 That makes the 2007 525d seem brilliant value :-)
I just looked it up and the most comparable modern powertrain is the 520d with 190 PS and it starts in Germany at €55.900. In Germany it's also probably the cheapest you're gonna get worldwide.
@@AndrewKNI Just for fun I configured a fully loaded 520d xDrive and it costs €102.410. Phew.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Yes, in the UK the 'cheapest' 520d Touring starts around £44,000 in addition to many options no doubt lol :-) This is quite close to your figure.
I was thinking of buying an E70 X5 3.0SD. It will for sure be more expensive to maintain than that 5 series, especially consumables. I'm thinking again.
Maybe I should become a mechanic in Switzerland... Atrocious. Just replacing my Audi A4 stabilizer links (myself) for 10€ each + ~1 hour of work per side :D
800€ battery wtfffffffffffffff - for that you get like two Lithium-batteries lol
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Buying a 10 year old BMW with 100k Km on the clock for 12k CHF is sketchy, how many hands?
I think it was from the first owner. But in Switzerland because of privacy you never know how many owners a car has had if it's not from the original owner.
Vogliamo il TCO della 500 😄
Schrott 😅