Your Ticket to Top Tier Jets | F-5C War Thunder

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • This plane is one of the most popular premiums of all time. Lets dive in, and see how it performs shall we?
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    Outro composed by Lucas Ricciotti
    Source: • Morning Stars - Summer...
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  • @fishy702
    @fishy702 Рік тому +25

    pin me

  • @Boris_The_Turtle
    @Boris_The_Turtle Рік тому +54

    I feel like legitamately learning the F-5C trains inexperienced players for high tier jets in a way.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +25

      No 30G missiles to serve as a crutch

    • @Boris_The_Turtle
      @Boris_The_Turtle Рік тому +3

      ​@@GeneralLee2000 Exactly

    • @JeremiahPTTN
      @JeremiahPTTN Рік тому +11

      It trained the hell out of me and by the time I got to play the F8E I had learned a boat load and really enjoyed the F8E

    • @totalnerd5674
      @totalnerd5674 Рік тому +8

      I mean... the derivative T-38 jet is considered the best trainer in real life...

    • @bpmgaming3351
      @bpmgaming3351 11 місяців тому +2

      I can confirm this. Prior to buying it, I had rank 5 jets with hardly any missiles to deal with. At the start, I was a premium Timmy bc I didn't play realistic before, only arcade. Died over and over learning how high tier jets work, making all the noob mistakes. Now I'm a F-5E main who proly plays too much 😂. The fundamentals learned in the F-5C certainly played into my much better kd in the E.

  • @SkinkUA
    @SkinkUA Рік тому +8

    "The guns are easy to aim when you spray where they're gonna be" Lee 2023

  • @Statink
    @Statink Рік тому +38

    All CC : don't use f5c with bombs
    All my teammates : bring f5c with bombs and let me 1 vs X the enemy team ( i got a WT burnout because of them )

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +3

      So true!

    • @HakcerCD
      @HakcerCD Рік тому +4

      that's why you play USSR specifically the Su25 in this meta. Half the enemy team will be down low bombing and then try to head on your 30mm + 2x23mm gunpods. Seriously, it's just absolute fun. Almost like playing the KV1B. Almost.

    • @cookiecraze1310
      @cookiecraze1310 Рік тому

      You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

    • @Ryan-go6id
      @Ryan-go6id Рік тому

      You’re welcome ☺️

    • @Rkay25
      @Rkay25 8 місяців тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 Sorry not true. There have been so many games where i successfully bombed a base and then turn around and get a couple of kills. To say the F5-c is useless for bombing is just wrong. I ground out the majority of the American air tree this way so I'm pretty confident that bombing is quite useful in the F5-C. @Statink Your burnout comes from you expecting your team to play the way you want to play. Remeber people buy these planes to grind out the trees because maybe they don't have enough time in there lives and a premium just helps them do it faster. How about trying to escort your bombers, that should net you a few kills.

  • @ashleyhamman
    @ashleyhamman Рік тому +7

    It sounds like the 5C's missiles put it in pretty much the same handicap as the 5E in uptiers. Personally I find them best saved for targetting someone who isn't doing a rate turn, but is jinking enough that guns are a waste of ammo in a near-knifefight.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +2

      They basically only hit slow, crippled or unaware planes

  • @macmac0712
    @macmac0712 Рік тому +4

    the timing of this vid. i just bought it yesterday lmao, got tired of grinding

  • @thetexanbuzzsaw3145
    @thetexanbuzzsaw3145 Рік тому +4

    also Lee your gameplay is insanly good

  • @duskycotw8404
    @duskycotw8404 Рік тому +10

    Even though I grinded 95% of the U.S. tech tree with this thing, I'm not too fond of it. The energy retention and turns are great and all but the lack of good missiles, weak engines, low top speed, and mediocre guns at best don't fit my play style maybe if the f5c got 4 aim9e's and got moved to 10.0 away from mig-23's I'd like it a lot more. If anyone is thinking about getting it I'd recommend the av8b instead, lower br very good acceleration and great missiles make the grind a bit more bearable even if it is not as competitive in dog fights.

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp Рік тому +5

      The dogfighting ability is kind of its selling point. Playing the airframe, it feels almost like cheating sometimes. Proper positioning at the start of games (don't just send it head-first) can net you plenty of kills even with the Aim-9E's and set you up for plenty of gun shots. If you catch someone slow and get on them with allot of energy, there is no escape... Feels like a fantastic 10.3 but that could just be having way too much time in-game against noobs talking...

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +9

      I'm not a massive fan of it either, purely because of the lackluster damage of the guns. A dogfighting plane with guns that don't do consistent damage doesn't sit right with me. AV-8 is a reliable grinder but boring

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 I can definitely see the inconsistent damage part. Sometimes it takes a good burst to score a kill. Found good results with Armored Target belts scoring tons of internal damage with a good burst and turning me into a flying arson charge though

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      @@Registered_Simp yeah, I use armored targets. Only issue with that is if you don't hit vitals when it punches through

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 Yep. Though it makes me feel better about the guns when I try and play a Draken with HE belts. Got so many times where it takes 8-12 solid hits just to get a good crit in. Sometimes even 20 hits to kill

  • @ianb3866
    @ianb3866 Рік тому +2

    Btw instead of running away as soon as you see the mig 23 under belly in the rate fight then you reversal and try and get him to over shoot

  • @Mista_Spicy
    @Mista_Spicy 11 місяців тому +3

    POV Every dog fight in the F-5 be like: Shoots at enemy. Crits enemy. Sets enemy on fire. Enemy plumets to ground. Either Harrier or A-10 Shoots a missile at Enemy. They steal your kill.

    • @Mista_Spicy
      @Mista_Spicy 11 місяців тому

      we all hate when that happens...

  • @jacksonmccarty6957
    @jacksonmccarty6957 Рік тому +2

    keep up the griind see u next stream

  • @kerotomas1
    @kerotomas1 Рік тому +4

    With the current ridiculous Su25K/A-10/A-6E spam Gaijin might as well reduce it's BR back to 10.0, there is no reason to still sit at 10.3. At least by doing this it could avoid 11.3 uptiers.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +2

      I would rather they just move the A-10/A-6/Su-25 up instead personally

    • @kerotomas1
      @kerotomas1 Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 i feel you i want them uptiered too but let's be real they are the biggest cash cows of Gaijin they will never be uptiered - they already came up with the excuse that these planes are slow (even though they are still manouverable, has good acceleration, kind of okay energy retention, overpowered 4 all aspect missiles at 9.7/10.0, crazy good gun with the vulcan its russian counterpart and the world's all flares)

  • @emmanue224
    @emmanue224 Рік тому +6

    I kills lot of f5 and mig 21s on low fuel In my f4e lol like a lot I think people underestimate how crazy the phantom on low fuel is because of those big engines

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +1

      Low fuel F-4E is scary 💯

    • @fsendventd
      @fsendventd Рік тому +1

      Even the F-4C is nuts on low fuel, get it below 7 minutes and it's an absolute monster. No slats means better energy retention (at the cost of some AOA), and if you're that low on fuel you've probably used your Sparrows so you're super light. I outrate MiG-21s on the regular and actually beat them in a scissor with a little luck. Phantoms are great.

    • @cookiecraze1310
      @cookiecraze1310 Рік тому

      F4S gaming. Downtiers are a dream since (in America v America matches) the F5C's are oblivious to how to dodge 7F's and just dump flares.

    • @Attack_The_D_Point
      @Attack_The_D_Point 8 місяців тому +1

      Literally me in the F-4F

  • @halucinator1
    @halucinator1 Рік тому +5

    Glad you could show us the mig-28. 🤣 Anyways, good video. Do you have anything about how you switch back and forth between controls like you do? Like going from mouse aim to sim controls?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      The control is called "switch control mode" AFAIK

  • @rstebnicki
    @rstebnicki Рік тому +4

    The best plane for lev 15 player!

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +1

      He has made so many bomruns you don't even know!

  • @AJ.Arciniega
    @AJ.Arciniega 5 місяців тому

    I had already gotten to the f-5e before buying this but that feeling of I don’t belong here has been holding me back even though I do and have the skill to perform

  • @thetexanbuzzsaw3145
    @thetexanbuzzsaw3145 Рік тому +2

    Lee: *gets 2k subs*
    Me: Congration you done it

  • @bruhmoment3741
    @bruhmoment3741 5 місяців тому

    I grinded the usa ground tech tree, but after getting absolutely demolished by CAS and american top tier tanks being less than favourable i decided to buy the f5c scince it was on sale. Scince then, ive learned how to turn without my pilot blacking out every second, how to properly dogfight and of course attack from suprise. It also made me more situationally aware, and is generally a great aircraft. It isnt really reliable, but one kill per match is usually enough to grind a tier 5 jet in a day or two. Would reccomend, 8/10

  • @evangalinsky2499
    @evangalinsky2499 Рік тому +4

    Ah yes, the F-5C. The aircraft with flares that shouldn't have them but does because it's premium and it's gaijin.

  • @trotta1300
    @trotta1300 Рік тому +2

    Another masterpiece

  • @jhonnybee6434
    @jhonnybee6434 Рік тому

    Great Vid 👍👍

  • @SaltySaiyan98
    @SaltySaiyan98 8 місяців тому +2

    I played five games in the F-5C and I'm not going to play it anymore. Top tier jets is simply too hard for me. I regret wasting my money on this plane.

  • @GuyThatsAlone
    @GuyThatsAlone 5 місяців тому

    Why do some people hold s when premorfing a turn at such high speeds?
    Im lvl 20 so i wouldnt know
    Also what colour do u use for the aicrafts hud (speed, altitude all that stuff)

  • @RedFail1-1
    @RedFail1-1 11 місяців тому +2

    I played it until the free repairs ran out. Didn’t learn anything. Rarely ever got a kill. Did not like it. Haven’t played it really since. I got it after I already had tier V jets, so it’s not like there was a huge disparity between my skill and the rank it is. I just don’t like it. Now with the MiG-23, F4S, Kfir, Sea Vixen. I can do alright. I get at least a kill a match, survive more than I usually do in lower ranks. Just something about the F5 I don’t like, and I refuse to learn an entirely new play style just to be good with it. Especially since I have the 4S now and don’t need it at all lol

  • @overpricedrl6789
    @overpricedrl6789 8 місяців тому

    my f5cs aim 9e missiles dont lock on from the sides or head on anymore only from the back... did they change something about them???

  • @stellasolaris
    @stellasolaris Рік тому +2

    The 20FPS experience in the background is pain lol wish I can buy that new laptop sooner rather than later...
    And also yes Lee is a very pog pilot

    • @stellasolaris
      @stellasolaris Рік тому

      Also F-8E video where now that it has RWR and stole the best spot for best 10.3 US jet smhhhh

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      Saving it for now, is planned tho

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      RIP, new laptop gaming hopefully soon ™️

  • @apieceofart130
    @apieceofart130 11 місяців тому

    Turkish National air force livery for the F5-C is clean

  • @maxstonecro1
    @maxstonecro1 Рік тому +3

    I didn't know the MiG 28 was in War Thunder.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +1

      MiG-28 best MiG

    • @besty453
      @besty453 Рік тому

      Imagine devs to bring another f-5c but in ussr tech tree, bruh xd

  • @nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666
    @nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666 Рік тому +2

    a buddy of mine does well with bombs and gets consistent sl from it but he also gets a kill as well a game but yeah i my self dont run bombs with this because speed issue

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      If the F-5C had a better TWR I wouldn't mind, but the acceleration just isn't good enough as is for reliable bomruns in most cases. I kill so many bombing F-5Cs haha

  • @lostxistenz1547
    @lostxistenz1547 Рік тому +2

    Do you keep vertical targeting on or off and if you do what targeting distance

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      I don't keep vertical on, but I use 500 meter convergence

  • @ryry8390
    @ryry8390 Рік тому

    Ok, Thats how we do it

  • @deckpogi2680
    @deckpogi2680 Рік тому +3

    Any chance you can do vids on the prem Phantoms from UK and Japanese??

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +2

      I will at some point. Not a high priority for now though

    • @deckpogi2680
      @deckpogi2680 Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 thank you

    • @cookiecraze1310
      @cookiecraze1310 Рік тому

      UK one: it's eh. It can grind top tier but the missiles are worse than the 4S for the same price (and both get dragged into 12.0 anyways). It's still an Aim 7E-2 with PD do it'll get work done but going to be getting any carries.

    • @deckpogi2680
      @deckpogi2680 Рік тому

      @@cookiecraze1310 i've bought the UK Phantom prem back when I posted this then bought the F4S after it got added.
      I'd say both Phantoms are fun to use been racking up kills with it lowest would 4 and max would be 7 sometimes 2 of worse getting swarmed but neither way its a fun aircraft to play just have to play smart and know what to do in engaging an enemy and choosing to play defensive.

  • @LenfredDueck
    @LenfredDueck Рік тому +6

    I just can't seem to get this plane to work for me. Skill issue I know. I prefer the A10 to the F5C as I can usually get more kills plus better at ground pounding. I'm using the A5C to grind the F16 for China and its much more fun to fly than the F5C. great power, excellent missiles and phenomenal energy retention as well as CCIP for all your ordinance at a lower BR than the F5. the guns let it down and top speed let it down but over all much more fun than the F5.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +3

      The A-10 does get the AIM-9L which is an exceptional missile, and plenty of ammo for the gun. It's slow, but if you do get past the fighters it racks up lots of ground units... and the 9Ls are basically guaranteed kills if the enemy doesn't have flares. I think the F-5C teaches you better. A-5C is also easy to use, it has a LOT of thrust and magics ahaha

    • @LenfredDueck
      @LenfredDueck Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 right. I think the A5 has ruined jets for me. But I'm sure if I put as much time into the F5 as I have into the A5 I'd get it to work.

  • @TheDAWinz
    @TheDAWinz Рік тому +2

    f5c ol reliable!

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +1

      Feels strange for it to be old now but it kinda is haha

  • @podcastler
    @podcastler Рік тому

    I've been eating mig 21s like breakfast,since I got this thing

  • @oscarpascarau2537
    @oscarpascarau2537 Рік тому +4

    As a mig21 mf player I avoid these like the plague they are unbeatable in a dogfight for me

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +2

      The lack of energy retention doesn't help the MiG-21

    • @oscarpascarau2537
      @oscarpascarau2537 Рік тому

      Biggest drawback of the mig21 indeed

    • @moldypotato4656
      @moldypotato4656 Рік тому

      You have to get then into a close range 1 circle fight to abuse your AoA and kill them quickly. The Mig21 can point its nose insanely well with proper rudder inputs and pull off some bs shots even when its practically stalling out. The issue arises when you try to follow an F5 in a sustained turn because you'll bleed off speed quicker and end up stalling out for them.

  • @hoover2666
    @hoover2666 Рік тому +1

    can we get an A5C video next? would be nice

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +1

      Probably not next, but I will make one at some point

    • @Boris_The_Turtle
      @Boris_The_Turtle Рік тому

      ​@@GeneralLee2000 Make a MiG-19 video, the dogfights in that thing are always entertaining.

  • @grivass
    @grivass Рік тому

    Is there any chance we get Saab35 video in the near future?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      Probably in march, I'll be making a JA37D video soon for sure

    • @grivass
      @grivass Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 thank you love your vids btw

  • @coco--7978
    @coco--7978 Рік тому

    The under skin is very cool we’re can I get it

  • @kovacsdani8160
    @kovacsdani8160 Рік тому

    Bro belive me bombing in this thing is really nice if u r careful!

  • @WalvisYT
    @WalvisYT Рік тому +5

    Why are you using the F-5C for dogfighting?!?1!! Clearly it is a strategic bomber, just look at the bombloads you can carry. Also, just incase you don;t know you can create custom loadouts which allow you to bring bombs as well as missiles. You should play it like a bomber, trust me I get like 30K RP every single game. I have a winrate of 69% and I played this game alraedy for a long time (2 months, just saying this so you know I am a good player.) Sometimes I teamkill on purpose just so I don't make to much SL, I just say 'haha oops'. Here is a video as proof that bombening better: ua-cam.com/video/o-YBDTqX_ZU/v-deo.html

  • @nikolassmith7381
    @nikolassmith7381 Рік тому

    How do I become a member for your channel?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      There should be a join button next to my name after you subscribe, if you'd like to join my membership

    • @nikolassmith7381
      @nikolassmith7381 Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 there’s not. Is there a different spot I should look

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      @@nikolassmith7381 Not that I can see. Apparently it's not visible on the app for some reason, you might need to use a computer or use your browser and go into desktop mode

  • @AnWildPig
    @AnWildPig Рік тому

    bababooey

  • @sus_asf2948
    @sus_asf2948 Рік тому

    dub

  • @1updylan
    @1updylan Рік тому

    Link to the MIG-28 skin?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      Unfortunately it's a preorder skin for the F-5C, not one on warthunder live 😅

    • @1updylan
      @1updylan Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 Ohhh dang

  • @Satrus-Popeye
    @Satrus-Popeye Рік тому +1

    with the F-15 *should* come the SU-27

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      I want F-15 by itself first. I know it would be fair for them to come together but I adore the F-15 ahaha

    • @Satrus-Popeye
      @Satrus-Popeye Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 I'm not even a Russia player in WT I just love the Su-27 due to DCS World

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      @@Satrus-Popeye understandable. I play everything so I'm ready regardless

  • @CaptainLegionary
    @CaptainLegionary Рік тому

    What user skin is that?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +1

      This isn't a user skin, it was the preorder bonus for the F-5C!

    • @CaptainLegionary
      @CaptainLegionary 11 місяців тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 oh, oof

  • @scythezy9959
    @scythezy9959 Рік тому

    NEED A10 PLEASE

  • @milbin1795
    @milbin1795 9 місяців тому

    das not a mig - 28

  • @tobi2233
    @tobi2233 Рік тому

    Well you can’t efficiently get to top tier

  • @queencinn4964
    @queencinn4964 Рік тому

    No su 25?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому +1

      Want me to cover it?

    • @queencinn4964
      @queencinn4964 Рік тому

      @@GeneralLee2000 it would be awesome, I suck at guns on kills in realistic jets, I can get it if I’m lined up perfectly but that’s a blue moon that your opponent doesn’t evade. I think just a video about getting gun kills at angles, and with one cannon/ not much ammo

  • @Themenace.
    @Themenace. 5 місяців тому

    If your new please don’t buy this plane it’s a waste of money but if your decent with jets and want to grind the American tree get this

  • @AussieRoberts
    @AussieRoberts Рік тому

    can never get a missile kill in this, they are so bad

  • @tobi2233
    @tobi2233 Рік тому

    Aim 9E is actually a good missile

    • @amazingjarl7147
      @amazingjarl7147 Рік тому

      it really isn’t, it’s a hell of a lot better than the 9B tho

    • @tobi2233
      @tobi2233 Рік тому

      @@amazingjarl7147 yeah of course it’s better since E comes after B😂
      But it’s still a good missile because it ignores flares on some aircraft and it’s Range is nice.
      You shouldn’t use it like an Aim9 J tho

    • @amazingjarl7147
      @amazingjarl7147 Рік тому

      @@tobi2233 it does not at all ignore flares, it has slightly less range than a 9J
      it’s not at all a viable missile at 10.3

    • @tobi2233
      @tobi2233 Рік тому

      @@amazingjarl7147 Did I say it has more range than the 9J? Nope.
      It ignores flares on some aircraft buddy I’ve seen it myself so stop saying bullshit.

    • @Deathwing21
      @Deathwing21 Рік тому

      ​@@tobi2233 You are the one saying bullshit bro, aim 9e is trash

  • @TapczanZaglady
    @TapczanZaglady Рік тому

    I hate this plane, I had many battles in f4e or f5e with only f5c as team and in enemy team was alo usa and other nations

  • @pootytang46670
    @pootytang46670 Рік тому

    f

  • @SPFLDAngler
    @SPFLDAngler Рік тому

    It 100% is not. Everyone who says it's a good grinder is someone who's already good enough at top tier Jets. Every single time I take it out I can't get guns on anyone, can't get any missile kills, and can't make it to a strategic base before the enemies are already there. I literally have not killed a single person in it and haven't been able to get any RP other than what you get for just playing the match and dying.

    • @SPFLDAngler
      @SPFLDAngler Рік тому

      It is also not good for ground targets like you say in this. I tried that. It takes too many rounds to pop a tank, even with ground belt. Maybe if you stick to gun emplacements but those are usually where the enemy players are so...

    • @seekerpro486
      @seekerpro486 Рік тому

      Tbh I think the A-10 is the best grinder. It’s just point click free kill. And unlike the A6E if you get to know the gun or survive the match it’s free ground kills

    • @moldypotato4656
      @moldypotato4656 Рік тому

      @@SPFLDAngler air target belts are actually better for soft ground units. HE will one-tap AA and artillery. The F5C is a really good plane once you already understand the basics of top tier jets: maintaining speed and situational awareness, proper flaring techniques, how to avoid radar missiles with chaff and notching, getting lead on supersonic targets, etc. An important thing to learn is to avoid pulling too hard in a turn. You can pull 13-14g in a turn but you really should be pulling like 10g at most to avoid bleeding all your speed.

    • @Hadgerz
      @Hadgerz Рік тому

      You can see here he is very clearly flying the f5c and doing very well in it, showing off what you should and shouldn't do in it.
      You got an ill skissue my guy. Watch and learn instead of just saying 'no ur WrOgn'

    • @Attack_The_D_Point
      @Attack_The_D_Point 8 місяців тому

      Lvl 3 players should not play jets. Don’t buy a top tier premium unless you are lvl 75+

  • @Bandit0313
    @Bandit0313 Рік тому +1

    You see…I’d get the F5-C to grind, but acted countless hundreds of hours I still can’t land bombs without my green circle. So no CCIP/CCRP is a bust for me

    • @Bandit0313
      @Bandit0313 Рік тому

      After*

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  Рік тому

      F, fighter mode is what this does best anyways

    • @Bandit0313
      @Bandit0313 Рік тому +1

      @@GeneralLee2000 If I had gotten it, I would’ve just been using it for base bombing. Given it’s payload and destroying bases makes the most RP and lions