2021 Kia Sorento review & buyer's guide | Auto Expert John Cadogan
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- After driving the 2021 Kia Sorento for a week now, I have a question for you: How do the premium German brands differentiate themselves, into the next decade?
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If you are an actual car-buyer … someone with cash and the need for seven seats, the new Sorento is good. Not perfect, but really good. Certainly far better than the notion you might have in your head when someone says ‘flagship Kia’. If you last looked at Kia in about 2010 (or even earlier) it’s time for you to re-calibrate.
In this report I’m going to lay out exactly what I like about the new Sorento - and there is a lot to like about this vehicle. But there are imperfections too, and some things it does poorly - right at the end of this report I’ll address those shortcomings.
This review is independent. Everything I say here is my honest personal opinion about the vehicle, and the company selling it.
This is the fourth generation Sorento - and all-new platform, updated diesel, all new transmission for the diesel, new interior and exterior, new infotainment OS, etc.
The diesel is a 2.2-litre turbo - an evolution of the predecessor. It’s got an aluminium block now, which shaves almost 20 kilos off the bathroom scales, and delivers hybrid-like fuel economy - 6.1 litres per 100km on the official combined cycle test, and 5.3 on the highway.
You really should consider the diesel, but if you’re a ‘petrol-only’ kind of dude or dudette, there’s a V6 petrol in the range as well.
If you’re an average sort of driver looking for a versatile SUV with five seats and a large cargo bay, or seven seats and modest cargo capacity, then Sorento V6 is a definite starter.
The diesel is definitely better - it’s smoother and more composed thanks in part to the all-wheel-drive powertrain, and also because the diesel just makes more mid- and low-rpm power. It’s also a lot more fuel efficient, but more expensive.
Sorento diesel AWD is compatible with dirt roads and easy fire trails and driving of that nature - but if you throw properly difficult terrain its way, you’ll probably break something. It’s just not designed for that.
All-wheel drive is a real plus for family camping. Like, if it rains overnight and the dirt road you drove in on turns to mush, you stand a far better chance of fronting up for work Monday morning, with AWD. If that’s you, buy the diesel.
There are four specification grades. Starting at the bottom is the ‘S’, then the ‘Sport’, ‘Sport+’ and (topping out the range) the GT-Line. And there’s an $18,000 gap between the V6 front drive ‘S’ poverty pack at about $47k drive-away, and the range topping diesel AWD GT-Line at about $65k. So, how do you make sense of that?
I’d suggest it’s like this: Bottom of the range is there to appeal to beancounters - specifically the kind of beancounters who buy vehicles by the dozen for corporate fleets. They strip out almost everything they can to get the price low.
If you’re buying for yourself, on a tight budget, take one step up because Sport is a lot better than S - and it’s only $3000 more.
Sport+ is the smart choice on value - it’s a $4500 step up. You get a proximity key with pushbutton start, power tailgate for juggling the groceries, leather, remote start, heated seats and USBs in the back.
GT-Line is the works burger - also diesel only - and it’s going to cost you about $6500 more than Sport+. It’s got everything - premium instrument cluster, blind view monitor, you can park it remotely, you get a 360 camera, and premium sound. This stuff is all nice, but can you live without it in Sport+? Yeah. Absolutely.
The wife swapped her vw alltrack for a Sorento Platinum, and I swapped my BMW for a Optima GT, best decision we have ever made, cheap to service and really surprised me with the comfort and tech. Very underated brand.
the car has engine problem. do not buy them.
Yeah u swapped 10yo bmw.
@@saauuzza Actually, I bought the Optima GT when the warranty ran out on the BMW, during the time I had the BMW, it spent a total of 46 days in the dealership getting repairs to a plethora of problems. The GT comes with a full 7 year warranty, and after 86000 km, it has only been in the dealer for routine servicing, and new tires. The same with my wifes Sorento which has 98000 km has given us zero problems, except a electronic handbrake replacement, and also has a 7 year warranty. So we are both very happy with our purchases.
@@BC-cp5vr and what bmw this might be
@@saauuzza 328i
I have been watching your car reviews since 2015 with interest, and I am happy to say you haven't been bought out by any car maker(s). I like how you point out the weaknesses and the imperfections in every car, not just those you don't like. A sensible, unbiased, and independent appraisal test drive by a reputable independent reviewer, gives me some idea what to look for, and what to expect prior to a test drive. Obviously, my perception maybe different in various aspects of any particular vehicle, but greatly appreciate your honest personal opinion, and independent assessment of the cars you review, and recommend.
Byron Nightingale I agree.
I watched the Kia Sorento review that John did for the previous model in 2018 and was a big reason why I ended up buying one.....BEST decision I made. Looked at everything else, couldn't compare and saved a heap. Thanks John, comedy AND common sense in your reviews..keep it up!!
Good to know David - thank you for watching.
I have a 2019 Kia stinger gt its absolutely fantastic! The way Kia treats their customers is fantastic as well!!
KIA HYUNDAI engine catch fire.
Your brain was caught by fire too.
Apersonal BMW 5 series engines are more famous for catching fire in the middle of road.
So I’m the guy that buys the GT model yesterday then watched this review Hahahah. Well done great video. Confidant about my purchase now.
Confident not dant.
Yeah im that guy too ordered a black GT model and now watching the review..... next 3 months are gonna go by so slowly
@@VictoriouzBIG had mine for 6 months now and we love it! Wish they had 2.5 tone towing tho, only feedback really! You’ll love it.
@@BlazRobar Thanks dude, Luckily im not gonna be towing anything with it. What kind of options did you have when choosing the kia, I wanted captain chairs with beige/ cream interior and black rims but Kia Australia doesnt offer those options here.
Anyone else seen the captain chairs?
@@VictoriouzBIG we just got the sidesteps, tow ball and the rubber insert mats and cargo Matt. The rubber mats are a good choice for kids as easy to clean. Haven’t seen the captain chairs tho.
Great review! We took your advice and bought a Seltos Sport+ AWD late last year for my wife. Ripper of a car, very torquey little turbo engine. I’m leaning towards the Sport+ Sorento AWD diesel for myself now. Don’t really need a large SUV but the car looks like a winner. I think KIA’s next step needs to be a few performance SUVs. They’ve certainly got the engines in the Hyundai/KIA family to do it.
Your reviews are excellent! I traded my 19 SPORTAGE for a 21.Sorento LX last week. It feels very refined and the space is great.
Thanks John
It's always nice when someone tells it like it is.
Thank you JJ.
The words 'tell it like it is' with that comment profile picture, nice.
@@Riley-mz5kj Your point being?
@@Riley-mz5kj Give you a bop with a lollipop. 😀
Yes! Yes! Yes! I was thinking Audi Q7 or Volvo CX90 but.....100% Kia Sorento is my top choice. Thanks for your honesty review you deserve a ward! Your review make me save more than $40k. Thank you again🙏
No problem. Perhaps I deserve two 'wards?
@@AutoExpertJC two wards being the psych ward and on release an adult guardian, making you their ward. Just kidding
The profit margins of the "premium brands" is insane.
It's not their fault.
People will pay extra for the badge.
The bulk of people that drive mercs, audi etc there on lease though a business drive them for 3 to 4 years then hand them back get a new one and repeat the experience all over again. The ones that are silly enough to use there own money not only do they pay for the badge. When they dispose of them 5 to 7 years they pay again huge deprecation the 100+ k suv ends up being a 20k pos nobody want I mean demands not exactly high for a used euro with 100000 +, km
@Salt & Pepper Regarding the ladies. I would hire with the money I save a professional instead of getting an amateur.
Also I've learned some time ago from Shania Twain - "That Don't Impress Me Much".
@Salt & Pepper It's your money. You can spend it on what you want. As long as you are happy with the choices.
Salt & Pepper brilliant comments. Agree 100%. Just make sure you never forget Dr.Dre’s advice back in 2001..
KIA HYUNDAI engine catch fire.
I just purchased a Kia Sorento 2020 1.6h GDi, similar to the one you're driving, but less tech, in the UK, and I actually like the warning sounds. I get about 5L/100km. I had a few premium German brands before, but this car is the best one I have had in the last five years.
When it comes to German cars, Kevin Bloody Wilson had a song about that,
"You can stick that frackin car up your frackin garage, you're supposed to drive, not break down every time"
I got over the Kimchi squirm some years ago when I purchased a Sportage CRDi. It has been in my growing family since the end of 2011 and any sense of trepidation about ‘made in South Korea’ disappeared within weeks of ownership. We love our Kia.
However, the growing family dynamic meant that at some point we needed more room - 2 kiddies in carseats plus one a bit older meant we went searching and in spite of loving Kia - we could have gone with Soreent, we couldn’t ignore the value and slightly bigger boot space of the Skoda Kodiaq. One of its selling features was the fact that the Czechs managed to provide more room, more personality (neat little extras like umbrellas in the doors) than their German cousins on the same platform. We think both marques provide great value but overall the Kia has my wife’s heart, the Skoda has our trust.
Mate where r u from?
I love your reviews in your own plain way of talking and anger i love that...and I drive 2018 KIA carnival platinum and has bought after seeing your review back in 2018 ..no regrets...its a perfet car for family and uber xl...who ever got into my car always appreciate me for that spacious seating and luxuriousness and im driving my car as Uber driving and other ride sharing..KIA's that lane departure alert and blind spot detection alert specialy on hiway help me a lot...and 360° Cam fantabulous.while parking car or taking out of close packed car parking those sensors helped me a ton with my real time experiences...help me a lot thanks to KIA....KIA's cars worth money payed..I will never buy anothet car from other car manufactures...will upgrade 2021 KIA carnival for sure... and you said turn all automated options off but other side helped lots of of other people Johny.....
Simply the best and most comprehensive review that I've seen for qite some time. John does a great job of making the review both informative and enjoyable to watch.
The vehicle review was irrelevant for my area, yet I watched the whole thing for the comedy and wisdom. Moar!!! Hehe
Thanks Mike - I appreciate it.
@@AutoExpertJC yessssss🤟
He’s so funny! Was great to have laugh, the crickets rooting 😂😂😂
@@melissadoherty4370 He's a self-important windbag, but 'cricket Caligula' was quite amusing...
@@AutoExpertJC 😂😂😂
Dear John, I purchased the Kia Platinum Sorrento 2017 on your review, I do not regret it as it was a winner after checking out the Santa Fe and Mazda Offerings. Looking at your review, it almost seems you are not as enthusiastic about the new Sorrento as with the model it replaces. Maybe just me, and as I was thinking of trading in on the new model I feel it may not be worth the massive changeover price. Cheers.
The new hybrid model due out in 2021 might be worth your interest?
This is "A REAL " REVIEW, HONEST
THANKS 👏👏👏
What the other reviewers Don't tell you!
If I was in the market for a new vehicle, it would definitely be this car. More bang for your buck as they say. Excellent review John!
just brought a Kia platinum based on your reviews so I thank you very much for your service to Australia car buyers I couldn't afford this 😭 but we got a MY15 platinum so far we couldn't be happier 👍
Sadly I recently lost my left leg (lost the right one about three years ago) and am no longer able to drive my 2017 Sorento Platinum. I held off putting her on the market in the hope I'd be able to become mobile enough to drive again but it looks like that may no longer be possible. All I can say is whoever buys her is going to get the bargain of the century as she's had all of her scheduled services done yet only has about 2,500 km on the clock. I'm hoping to get about $40,000 for her (she was over 60k new) so we'll see. I shifted jobs in 2007 and worked selling parts for Kias since then so I have become pretty familiar with the marque and I can honestly say that if they were as crappy as some of the bogans would have you believe I wouldn't have shelled out the cash to buy two (my first Kia was a 2011 Sorento). Oh well, looks like I'm not going to get the chance to drive one of these.
You need to get the hand twist accelerator/brake package that pushes down on the brake pedal that comes up from the floor like an old stick shift, at comfort level to your dominant Hand. Had a friend in a wheelchair, paralyzed from T-6 down and he drove a Cadillac Seville for ages that way.
Don’t they have such driver aids in ‘Stralia?
Howdy from the Cranky Yank!
Thinking about buying either GT Sorento or Palisade Highlander. Amazing Guide John. I have watched quite a lot of reviews for Sorento GT Line and I can confidently say, your is by far the best. 43 mins of sensible and usable information. I think I can easily educate the salesman on some of the feature now. Keep up the good work. I would love to see Sorent GT Line vs Palisade Highlander detailed guide (not just review) from you. Thanks again.
Ohh also there are hardly any reviews/guides on Sorento GT Line 2021 Off Road capabilities. Just some food for thought.
Outrage? Challenge accepted. How dare you make sense and use facts!
It is quite old-fashioned of me...
Engineer with tool in hand not necessarily have all the facts. 😋
You don't happen to be a political advisor for the US president by any chance?
@@Deevo037 no. I could never support Cheeto dust. (He really does look the giant polinoid worm! But that is a insulting the worm)
I bought a 2004 Kia Sorrento from new, best car I ever had , just got rid of it last year as I was given a company car to keep.It had the same battery exhaust and most component parts , I had it regularly serviced and didn’t fail a yearly government test
The Mercedes GLE it’s short for Generally Lacking Everything
I knew it must mean something...
Lol, generally lying everything for alternative?
@@AutoExpertJC well then Kia must be Kudos in Auto !!
Damnit I thought it was "Great, Lost Everything". They say you learn something new every day!
@@wburger2178 Generally Loser Enamoured. Great - Lost Equity. Glamourously Lacking Equipment. Guaranteed Loser Ego. Etc. We could do this all day...
I am in no way interested in buying one of these great new Kia Sorentos. However, I enjoyed this review from John immensely, just like I do most of his stuff. It is a real testament to his professionalism, sense of humour, presentation expertise, industry knowledge AND simply his ability to present without a conflict of interest ANYWHERE that sets him apart from other so called 'journalists'. I watched this just to see what Kia was up to but 90% to be entertained by the best motoring source of info in Australia, ABOUT Australia. Even though i wasn't right into this review of this car i usually learn something from John and today was no different. A very rare breed for a Phil Collins gnome type entity :-) Thanks for a great 43 mins of zero BS John! Dunno what I'd do without ya!
Hey Brian, thanks very much mate. Great to know you enjoyed the report. MALS or death!
I'm always amazed at how rich people settle for the crap service from the Chermans. Maybe the coffee is really good in the showrooms.
Me too. I am also amused at how average the cheaper models from the premium carmakers actually are.
But they may have better Ming molls?
@@GuitarsRockForever Yes - the calibre of former fluffer in a Merc dealership is quite high.
@@GuitarsRockForever The difference between a German Ming moll and a Korean one may come down to a matter of taste.
@@steved3702
I want a Korean German Ming Moll😁😁😁
The only car review channel we need for normal day-to-day cars.
Thank you very much.
About 4.5 years ago we bought a Kia carnival premium which was just over $60k. I remember my wife saying at the dealers that she didn’t want to spend $60k on a Kia. But 4+ years down the track and she lives her car. We have had no issues with it and it is so versatile. The quality is great and equipment levels are awesome. Like many things in life, the price is forgotten long before the experience. If you asked us exactly how much we paid, I couldn’t tell you. Sow as it too much “for a Kia”? No. It was a good price for a that meets our needs without paying a premium just for a different brand name.
Yes - I think your experience is quite typical. It's just that in some camps, perception lags behind reality.
@@AutoExpertJC sure is. I speak to heaps of people about their cars and what they have encountered as an owner. Everybody in my family own Kias or Hyundais bar myself. I purchased a 2005 Getz and traded it for a pile of junk mazda in 2016. I will never take my car to a mazda dealership and will only consider Kia or Hyundai as a highly recommended car with great service to others and warn everyone not to be fooled that mazda make a great car these days. All the Kias and Hyundais in my family are far superior in most areas and heaps better at customer support.
It's like the time I forked out for a $1000 per hour hooker, at the time it seemed expensive, but looking back now, as you say, the price has long since been forgotten, but the quality of her rack will never be:)
@@AutoExpertJC A lot of these German cars don't seem to be as good as they should be, a family member (who works for VW) got a new Golf 8, big mistake, they hate the all touch screen controls and the car has an annoying habit of trying to take command of the steering!!! The car will be gone in 6 months they say for something BETTER!!
"I've been driving this car for one week now" an it's gearbox is still working.
I've been driving my Japanese made Toyota for 3 decades now and its gearbox is still working fine.
Yes John, I know, it's not new, it's not fancy, it's not cool, it's not a machine gun style double clutch change thingo.
It's just the factory gearbox that still works perfectly 30 years on.
The little old lady next door drives around in a 1985 AE85 Toyota Corolla, with original engine and transmission. It's not the fasted or flashiest car in the neighborhood but everyone thinks she's cool.
My friend works at the HMC R&D and he told me that THAT 8-Speed DCT mated on the i30N FL and others to come is just LEGENDARY. He tests 'N's at the Nuerburgring and he is covinced that Made in Germany is shocked period.
Yeah - I heard that too.
@@AutoExpertJC a few beta versions at production start up did fail though. Some bastards at Hyundai Powertec failed to follow protocols. They claim that they were watching an Australian media auto expert blowing the shoot out of electric Jesus in Straya. Problems were found on the DCTs mated to the all-new Sorento HEV (48V mild-hybrid).
Test drove one as a loan car while my VF SV6 Wagon was in getting service and I absolutely loved it, love having a bigger car and the Sorento would be a great replacement.
Good review, you actually clarified a big issue for me. The 3rd row.
I'll most likely wait for the new carnival to come out
Same!!!
Picked up a new VW 2 weeks ago. Been buying same model for 20yrs. Found by mistake than many of the infotainment options can't be adjusted while the care is moving!!! New for this year. At least Android auto works well this year.
I swapped to the Korean's about 5 years ago from the Germans, best move I ever made. I now own 2 Genesis. I did provide Benz an opportunity last time around when I was in the market for a four wheel drive with mid level capability and was stunned when I asked if I could order the 'off road package' and if it would be warranty'd if I went off road and informally told no. Wow, just wow. Sell a car that claims to be four wheel drive capable but if you use it there is no warranty. Meanwhile my Santa Fe went everwhere (very offroad in fact, the footage is on UA-cam) and it had a diff issue 3 years in. No biggie, diagnosed on the service, replaced 2 weeks later. The Germans are slowly moving into history I'm afraid, only those who feel the need to distinguish themselves through brand choice see them as relevant anymore methinks.
Still slightly better than Jeep.
True story: we all know Jeep does all their TV ad as "outdoor going into the wildness" car. They even show their piece of shit on top of mountain. Someone bought one and it broke down as soon as it left the highway. Jeep refused to repair it under warranty because they don't cover any "off-road" drive.
@@GuitarsRockForever hahahaha It's just amazing what crap these companies will pull.
I think they'll still have a place, but they're jammed from below because everyone has the same access to tech now, and also cars are becoming less aspirational to the population generally.
Your comment is ridiculous. Some people like myself buy because like how they drive. I've driven all the Genesis lineup except the GV80 and they are great. But they cant touch my BMW's for driving experience. Especially on a twisty road. Ever wondered why Hyundai hired ex BMW engineers?
@@mr.c3939 Get over it Chad - I was not talking about you. Talking about population trends generally. They're called 'facts' and you don't have to like them. Just a little big egotistical to extrapolate from your own experience to 'everyone' mate...
Glad to see that the comments are available. Love your videos.
Honestly John it was easy to stick with you. I live in the Melbourne metro zone. What else do I have to do?
My advice, Tim: watch twice, at half speed.
I watched all the way until the end for the Ming moles... My lockdown blues continue.
@@shanea9613 I've really had enough mate. The best job to get after the lockdown will be in mental health.
@@Lazy_Tim agreed.
@@shanea9613 Yes, I have noticed, M/Benz probably made noises re Swastika's, and some moralistic type in power, cautioned him on overt sexual innuendo.
The Sorento is A1 on my list of cars - the Hyundai equivalent is second. The value proposition for a car that I'd keep for 10-12 years is excellent.
Can’t wait to next week when Kia gives the engine specs for the US model, I want to get this or the Telluride SX with Prestige package
Expect the Sorrento to have 277hp with 311lb ft out of the 2.5t
i seen the New Telluride Nightfall edition with the black lettering that thing is BEAUTIFUL.
Thank you John, I've just bought a Kia Sorento Sport plus after taking your advice regarding Sport plus or GT line and find myself very happy with the vehicle. Cheers!
I looked at the run time and thought 'too long, no thanks' then in a mad moment took it front on. Glad I did. Top effort there John.
Thanks for watching. I know it seems daunting up front.
Kia`s and Hyundai`s are just no brainer. Servicing is almost free and they never brake in the first place
@Truthisstrangerthan Fiction Same with my Hyundai Elantra. Their gasoline engines do consume more gasoline than German or French cars but in return they never brake. P. S my drive belt service and water pump was like 200USD with labor. Cant service cheaper than that
Thanks John for another real world review - I've been following the coverage of this car and have consumed the local Australian reviews available on UA-cam - you're the only one who didn't devote half their video to the self-parking party trick and focused on what's important to the average consumer. Looking forward to your review of the 2021 Santa Fe when it's available for comparison.
I’ve heard a rumour that Kia is considering bringing the Telluride to Australia.... one can only hope.
I thought they were staunchly not bringing the telluride to RHD. Hyundai have the Palisade releasing at the end of the year though
I don't think kia will need 4 suv in Australia
Nah mate it just a rumour, even in the US waiting period is more than six months to get a Telluride...or pay a few grands more to get it earlier
Fantastic review John. I nervously watched all the way to the criticisms as I have signed on the dotted! I was relieved to find that your concerns do not impact my decision, so I am so looking forward to taking delivery of my new Sorento. cheers Linda
Was waiting for the AWD petrol with the 2 captains chair in 6 seat configuration. Not coming to OZ i gather.
Nope - not a starter for Oz mate.
I've been watching quite a few of his videos, no comments allowed a few years back. One thing I noticed, he raves about adaptive cruise control and heads up display on the windscreen available in the 2017 models; I have enjoyed both of those on my Lexus RX350 since 2009.
Great review as always! (Long time viewer, first time commenter) To be honest I had never really thought about Kia previously until I saw the New Sorento (I like this design over the previous model, I also like this interior compared to current Santa Fe ). I've seen a lot of overseas reviews on this (and have been waiting for your review as you always tell it like it is... ) It is a shame we wont get the 2.5L Turbo version here though. That would of been a winner.
As I will be in the market shortly for a new 7 seater I think I'll be tossing up between this and the Skoda Kodiaq (possibly RS).. what are your thoughts? (I know its part of the company that shall remain nameless) But I'd like to hear what you think about Skoda or even see you review the Kodiaq RS
Great review John , and I'm totally sure you won't get that level of detail and truth from some of the others and most definitely not the great humour. Cheers.👍
Thanks very much, Luke.
We purchased a new KIA Telluride S model which is a mid optioned model in the Dark Moss exterior and what I call an ebony and ivory interior as we have raised our family and it’s just us two again so we went for the contrast without fear of crayons, markers etc. lol. We have never owned a Kia this is our first and I must say the ride is very smooth and quiet, lots of room with true 3 row seating ( yes I’ve actually ridden back there and at 5’10” and 200ibs it was easy in-easy out and I had plenty of head and knee room. I was surprised at the positive comments I got from strangers and notably present and former Kia owners satisfied with the reliability of there Kias . While we were initially drawn to this vehicle by its looks and I must admit I am not the SUV type, a fella parked next to me one day nailed it with his comment, he said that is a Handsome vehicle and I’d have to agree. I enjoy your content and the way you poetically assault the English language lol! Thanks again !
Brilliant reviews thanks . I need to decide between spots + or GT now 😏
What did you get?
@@bateupchris I'll be getting the Gt later in the year 👌
Loved your video, straightforward, honest and professional. Value for money, that’s the motto at these days. Also had some laughs, despite the not always easy to understand Aussie accent of yours! Congrats from Madrid.
Thank you very much Gonzalo.
This John bloke has got a lot of suggestions.
The message is loud & clear my man !
Highly appreciated !
Well done.
Sharp looking SUV. Might upgrade from my Sportage.
Same .....looking to go to the GT Sorrento
If I ever go to Australia, I will be really disappointed if I don’t find a bunch of funny dudes like you and Ozzyman.
I will never understand why people still have this misguided belief that because its from a German brand (VW, Audi, Skoda, BMW, Merc etc) its somehow superior to the Japanese and Korean options?
That said, there are still industries where appearance matters to people. If some rich guy was paying thousands of dollars to a high-flying lawyer and that lawyer showed up in a Toyota Corolla or a Kia Sorrento, that rich guy might think less of them than if they showed up in a nice BMW or Merc or Audi. Same as if they showed up wearing jeans and a T-shirt instead of a fancy suit.
Justifying!! I am guilty myself. 😂
With much spanner swinging done in my life people often ask me for advice on what car to buy. Yet when I utter the words, Kia, Hyundai and Mitsubishi Triton I am looked at like I had just sworn at them. I often wonder why they ask.
For what it's worth, Daniel, I have been an industry insider for 20-something years, and I own a Santa Fe Highlander (2019) and a current Triton GSR, so I hear you mate...
Looks like a great detailed review. Unfortunately way too much talking for me and hard to figure out the main points. Maybe a summary table of pros and cons at the end would make it more accessible?
Try concentrating...
It’s the first time watching your video and I am subscribing cause you are so real and that gives me joy👍
Driving home in silence after an argument that didn't matter....sounds like you're speaking from life experiences lol
Lol
Surprise twist
Probably the best video you’ve made John. Much clearer & concise than other videos. Excellent. 👍👍
1-Which Lexus SUV is comparable to this Kia Sorento GT? 2- which of the two do you recommend? 3-Do you have a video comparing the above two?
Thank you. 🙏🍻
Thank you John for a great in-depth review very much appreciated 👍👍👍👍👍
Great review John. We bought the GT Line in January and so far so good, we love it. So I only checked out your review following our purchase, but appreciate and totally agree with your comments, especially the phone thing. I religiously connect my iPhone and use CarPlay and it works a treat. The rest all made sense and I’ll keep your comments in mind. Thanks again.
I don’t like the seats not comfortable at all
This DPF thing is kind of counter productive if the best way to keep them running right is to drive longer and therefore create more pollution.
oo0Spyder0oo , my sentiments entirely . I have a 2017 Focus 1.5 diesel and encountered poor running and a total failure because of its DPF . I now drive it more miles than I need to just to eliminate DPF issues , crazy isn’t it and this is progress apparently !
@@kennethhume8628 Add to this that some systems inject fuel into the exhaust to create a furnace, ie, using more fuel to make it work, it probably shouldn't have been given the green light at all.
What's more counter productive is having to get your diesel SUV towed because the DPF light comes on (during your commute to work) and needs a diesel specialist to diagnose the fault, all because it wasn't properly maintained. A stitch in time...
@@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars No one should be expected to do more than drive their vehicle as normal, adding the dpf and expecting people to drive for another 30-45 minutes because of a warning is unacceptable.
Mate, That was a fantastic vid, I'm lining up to buy a new Sorento and this is just the info I need. Cheers
I like how you sat there and analysed the pros and cons of this vehiclem, making comparison with Mercedes. It's like my grandpa telling me better go with PlayStation instead of Xbox, and I did and I never regret.
Love the reviews and articles John. Particularly love the comparisons between value for money when comparing the Asian brands against the European brands.
Early last year I bought a Cerato GT after doing the comparisons, test drives and research with similar European cars. The Cerato won easily when things like price, standard equipment, performance and handling and warranty were taken into consideration.
Did the same exercise when I traded that in and got my Stinger GT. Half the price as an European equivalent yet still a superb supercar with exceptional quality for the price.
Kia and Hyundai / Genesis are making great cars and if one overlooks badge snobbery, a great car can be had for half the cost of an European car.
thanks john for another informative and highly entertaining review,,,i wonder how many people miss the innuendos such as the fluffer making the video comment,,,,i always look forward to your reviews in my inbox regardless if im in the market for a vehicle or not,,as i know i will be entertained and informed,,,,,thanks again for the laughs ,love your work cheers from a mexican lol
Hello Alan - thank you. I think a lot of people miss that stuff. To me, it's half the fun - batting over many heads (but not yours, clearly).
We need plug in hybrid
John I thought you moved to India already for good.
Welcome back
John, thank you for expert tire inflation procedure.
Have never heard this in the states. It works!
I had a 2013 SORENTO 4cyl. And now have a 2018 4cyl. Here in the u.s. they don't offer a diesel but you can get A.W.D. in both engine size. You can also get a 4cyl. Turbo.
Consider quoting real time fuel economy alongside the official figures. Great review mate.
Due to protection for modern diesel engine equipped with high pressure CRDI, diesel quality is so essential for keeping good condition of high pressure fuel pump. I'm sure that KIA already have known this fact, so that they export diesel car to AUSTRALIA. I could guess AUSTRALIA's diesel quality is reliable as Korea's.
Agree John, why would you spend $115k on a Poverty Pack Benz only to have to spend another $15k to option it up to the Kia's already standard gear?? Is a German Badge worth that amount?? I'd take a diesel any day over the petrol. The diesel will account for about 75% of its total sales anyway. Its an excellent vehicle.
I love ur creative aspect of auto naration.
Thank you, Munish.
Just picked up our first Kia. The Seltos 4 banger AWD. At 4000 km in, its surprisingly good for $26 grand.
Seltos is pretty good also.
thorough Review, thoroughly entertaining, thoroughly thorough :)
Glad to see that you mention any negatives and not just the positives. However I didn’t see any comment about the performance of headlights. My 2015 Tucson Highlander has pathetic high beams. Just wondering how they are on the new Sorento?
Also would the ride quality be improved with 19” or even 18” wheels? It seems that modern car manufacturers are obsessed with fitting low profile tyres to top of the range models. Some of us regional dwellers would like a bit more rubber under the rim.
Finally, how will Kia live with the fact that the diesel Sorento now has better fuel consumption than the diesel Sportage?
Your the best Jonh, every thing you say aplies world wide, even her in fish country Portugal. Thank you and keep it up.
Wonderful reviews always. A breathe of fresh air in amist of generic same old same old reviews on utube.real world testing at it's best. please keep it up. Subscribing from today.
All those chimes and vibrators would be a deal changer for me if you couldn't turn them off.
The "blind spot" warning should say "If you can't see the car on your right/left, your mirrors aren't properly adjusted. Please pull over as soon as it's safe to do so and fix them."
I didn't see any vibrators...
John,
Great review and thank you for all your reviews.....always tell friends to listen to you...and I did,....bought a 2019 Sorento GT diesel early this year and it hasn't failed to satisfy.(your mention of electrical/voice warnings also apply to 19 model..lol)...and really surprised at its performance on std dirt roads (not serious 4wd'ing just regular dirt ), it is really surprising ( have owned Landcruiser and Patrol). When I am ready to upgrade, I will be in line for another Kia...providing your review is still positive. By the way I consistently get better fuel consumption than the official stats.
Thanks again for your continued efforts a keeping the Aussie car industry honest!!!!
Great review, longish but no punches pulled. Interested not so much in a 7 seater but the Kia SUV range which is looking increasingly good.
I dropped my wife's A250 Sport for a service I was given a current model GLC-300. OMG this thing was bloody annoying with the amount of senors that were triggered driving home. If you drifted in the lane on the highway you were confronted with hepatic steering wheel feed back. If you exited the highway in the 2nd lane with a vehicle to your left, you would get audible and display alerts and a power cut! It was soooo annoying!
It's ANCAP appeasement - and, yeah, it's as annoying as shit.
Thanks John. Had trouble staying awake in this one. I still have my 2010 XM Platinum 2.2 CRDi AWD. 178 kks. For the extra 20kgs I will have a cast iron block any day. It meant my warped aluminium alloy head only needed a shave instead of a throw away engine. Saved me thousands. My biggest complaint is lack of ground clearance (160mm) under sump which limits you or at least reduces your confidence on many offroad tracks which the car is otherwise very capable of handling. Doesn't look any better on this latest version. I purchased regardless of crap resale because of the badge. I am hanging onto it as a consequence.
I am told the FWD V6 burns rubber at upslope intersections and hammers the tyre wear. At least in previous models.
I am also curious John. How does a good long highway run 'purify' the oil? I can understand the filter helping to clean the oil but that should be working at any speed. Is there some special 'oil purifying at speed' tech device going on here which I have missed?
Excellent video and plenty of laughs, keep up the good work .
Well, we over hear in "Merica" buy more AWD cuv's & Kia have given us 2 4cyl engines a hybrid & plug in hybrid, all available with AWD. 🤙
Not to mention the Telluride.
John, you didn't mention things like ACC, auto light and wipers. In my car, (a mumble) when I lock the car the windows go up and mirrors fold. If I hold the unlock down the windows go down (great in summer to get the heat out). I just love the tech stuff. Enjoyed the video.
Mate, great in depth review. Great points about testing out smartphone compatibilities. Lots of stuff I've overlooked but now considering. Might actually get a Sorento now.
Enjoyed your recent reviews out of the studio. Entertaining and really relevantly informative but not too crude that is not so polarising as your normal vids. Good cars too. Cheers.
Great review John. Put my order in couple weeks ago here over the ditch in New Zealand for the Sports+/Deluxe model. Now waiting for the October shipment, very impatiently.
I'm sure you'll be quite pleased with it, Leon.
John, after all the desert i have seen in pictures surprised to see green trees and grass.
The badge the badge the badge, please Kia get the new badge out ASAP. Very happy owner (6 years) of diesel Sorento here.
What's wrong with the badge? I don't think that new one we saw years ago is ever going to surface...
Auto Expert John Cadogan I just think it needs an update, looks dated and bit cheap and especially on the Stinger it just looks out of place... totally thought new badge was on the way, think I heard it on Asian Petrolhead’s channel...
@@AutoExpertJC Killed in Action!
Always the voice of practicality and common sense. People will pay way more for the popular myth. As a Hyundai owner they are good vehicles. Like the deal so long live the myth of others being better. I never got the hype.
Top! Top review... Came for the facts subscribed and liked for the smart, funny comments and wisdom... 👍🏾
Everyone needs an uncle like cadogan
What I like is the start engine with out been in the car waiting for it to warm up before hitting the road with a cold engine
Sensory overload is explained quite accurately. Only sounds I wish to hear during driving are the engine, the wind and the tyres.
And moaning - from the passenger's seat.
I don't want to hear the tires or the wind or the engine. Just my favourite music blasting through the speakers.