The New Waves BB TUBES Saturation Plugin - Is it any Good?

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  • Опубліковано 5 лис 2024

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  • @cvader7
    @cvader7 Рік тому +11

    This is the finisher I always searched for...Many plugins come out/go out..But this right here is an instant classic, in it's own class! This is pure magic on any sound!

    • @artgod2890
      @artgod2890 Рік тому +2

      I have to agree.

    • @cvader7
      @cvader7 Рік тому +2

      @@artgod2890 Definitely! That's the "like a record" type of sound that I craved for!

    • @HOBBITSODYSSEY
      @HOBBITSODYSSEY Рік тому +3

      You really should watch Paul Third video on it lol

    • @Il-Cane
      @Il-Cane Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JE1UBfMOmmw/v-deo.html

  • @thebarbaryghostsf
    @thebarbaryghostsf Рік тому +4

    Alright after using this thing for 2 months, I can safely say that this was a MASSIVE game changer in all of my productions! Suddenly I was doing the "big system/nightclub" sound test (as I work as a club DJ), and that saturation really shows, especially on those huge speakers. Everything was just glued together so perfectly, I wanted to tear up lol. All of my old tracks went from sounding thin and hollow, to full and colorful. I don't like linking to self-promo, but if you are curious look up "The Expedition" by Profondo Delle Tenebre. I love Waves in general, but this one was a total VIP (Very Important Plugin) for me.

  • @skeletonmodel
    @skeletonmodel Рік тому +26

    For all new producers that make the same mistake as we all did by buying a lot of Waves during sales: Your plugins will not be updated to work on new systems or macOs. If the version you buy now still works, great, but if it needs an update, you will have to pay a yearly fee to Waves. This fee is a percentage of your plugin price. Not the sale price, but the full amount. They will usually still work after an update, but a fair warning.
    Waves has a lot of people push this plugin to shake off their dusty image, and ofcourse the quality is great, but do some research to be sure. Im not saying its a bad thing, and there is a case to be made for developers that have to be paid to update the plugins, but know that.
    To not have ridiculous sale prices and free updates is for me personally a better model, where I dont feel like my plugins/projects are taken hostage

    • @Triumphinchrist1
      @Triumphinchrist1 Рік тому +5

      I always avoid Waves for their sales policies!

    • @HOBBITSODYSSEY
      @HOBBITSODYSSEY Рік тому +6

      Never had a problem on windows....Ever.

    • @jeremythornton433
      @jeremythornton433 Рік тому

      If I'm not mistaken, they sometimes offer a free time limited update. I could be wrong though. I bought this latest plugin and I rarely do because I hate it when they stop working,

    • @onzkicg
      @onzkicg Рік тому

      They actually offer 2 year equivalent... I purchased one during Waves Central v.12.. now after a year upgraded free to v.13. Yes they are not perpetual so you have to get your mind ready that you are buying a plugin that is good for 5 years my estimate, it takes me 5 years or more to upgrade to new laptop or system. My advise is to wait for big discounts happening in a year (many) I would say it is during Black Friday-Cyber Monday.
      If you are in a good profitable music business, IMHO it's okay.. just like charging it to a maintenance cost.
      If you are like me that is just home use/self study music production as hobby, IMHO I just use those limited time as my motivation to learn music, because a $30 plugin for 3 years (36mo.) is like I am paying $0.833 per month.
      Just have to bear in mind that at the end of the day this is all still business as usual.. like buying clothes that useable only for some time. With exception to pair of Levi's 501 that takes me 10 years before buying new one lol, If not my wife begged to change it, I will keep it for 15yrs! But those jeans they lasted more than my washing machine!
      Yeah, in today's digital age time, really that's just how it is.. buying something, whether gadgets or software that lasts only for 2-5 years or so, then obsolete.

    • @Il-Cane
      @Il-Cane Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JE1UBfMOmmw/v-deo.html

  • @jenslempke7883
    @jenslempke7883 4 місяці тому

    Like an exciter, compressor and eq in one when all settings are used properly. I love it on bass and drums.

  • @DavidDavis-FA-photog
    @DavidDavis-FA-photog Рік тому +2

    Hey Chris, I went back put this on some of my previous mixes and it totally altered the mix to make it much better.

  • @Fwuzeem
    @Fwuzeem Рік тому +4

    Is it a bit like Triode and Pentode in Blackbox?

  • @thomaswhudson
    @thomaswhudson Рік тому +1

    I got this plug today, very impressed so far.

    • @Il-Cane
      @Il-Cane Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JE1UBfMOmmw/v-deo.html

  • @DjLeoZero
    @DjLeoZero 9 місяців тому

    sounds great - nice and controllable and precise.... the bass relief and the tone setting sounds particularly useful - love it.

  • @jaymanley3198
    @jaymanley3198 Рік тому +5

    The bass relief, over sampling and saturation meter are nice features. However, there are a lot of good saturation plugins on the market. As for the sound quality, how does this one compare to others?

    • @JamesBeck-yl4sx
      @JamesBeck-yl4sx Рік тому

      It is very natural sounding and not at all 'fizzy'. It is also very versatile in that you can add a little 'something' to the source to give it some character and slight warmth to really driving it hard (again without it sounding digital and fizzy) and everything in-between. Like you say, there are lots of plug-ins that do this kind of thing but this one in particular actually does 'clean' up the source. I know that sounds weird but when used very subtlety, you can add a kind of expansion that works really well in the mids! You can then, on the other hand drive it and get a lovely 70's kind of saturation (you know the sound, the one we all want from this type of plug-in) and that tends to start midway. There is still a fair way you can push it past the pleasing 'tape' saturation and you can start exploding synths, guitars or single instruments and it stays together very well, clean with very pleasing harmonics. Being able to select the two different circuits is also great as you can use the it on several sources in the same mix and make them distinctive. Even when pushed aggressively, there are no audible artefacts or waywardness and it sounds robust. It is one of the best, if not the best type of these plugins that I have used. You are kind of tempted to use it on everything when you first start using it and that is always the sign of a good plugin! Hope that helps and I would absolutely recommend it as once you have it, you really won't need another plugin to achieve this kind of effect.

    • @lX-NDR
      @lX-NDR Рік тому

      decapitator and tilljanuary the free radiator plugin are awesome! give me better results. but then again i use in my my last insert a plugin where i can control the harmonic distorbtion, if you dont have that bb tubes can give you some good results if you trow your music online ;)

    • @jaymanley3198
      @jaymanley3198 Рік тому +2

      I have these already so i will pass for now:
      Super VHS - Baby Audio,
      TAIP -Baby Audio,
      HG-2 -Black Box Analog,
      Vinyl - Izotope,
      Tape Face -Kiive Audio,
      IVGI2 -Klanghelm,
      V76U73 -NEOLD,
      Tape,Saturation Knob -Softube,
      SSL X-Saturator, SSL Fusion Transformer, Fusion Vintage Drive -
      Solid State Logic,
      LO-Fi-AF, Needlepoint -Unfiltered Audio,
      J37 -Waves

    • @lX-NDR
      @lX-NDR Рік тому

      @@jaymanley3198 ssl x saturator 💪

  • @Edizonstudio
    @Edizonstudio Рік тому +7

    It felt good but I also feel like it's littlebit overexaggerating some of those low muddy frequencies. On the bass I loved it but combining it with EQ It's gonna be 100%. Thanks for the demo! =)

  • @jcpuga
    @jcpuga Рік тому

    I've been looking into saturation plugins and can't find anything that gives me this vibe. Any suggestions? I hate to be tied down to the machine that is Waves....ever since that subscription fiasco. BUT, I do like/use their plugins lol

  • @97warlock
    @97warlock 10 місяців тому

    Can you record on this? or this would go Before the Audacity I use to record with. I take this vid as basically trying to promote it to increase sales. Im more into amatuer small time vids that try it out & are critical. But observe it in an overall way.

  • @makucevich
    @makucevich Рік тому +2

    This looked just like what I want. 27 seconds into this video I looked up the price and I was all in in until I looked up the requirement specs. BB Tubes runs on MacOS 10.15 and up. I am running 10.12. Can someone explain why Waves of other software companies don't make their plugins with a little more backward compatibility?

    • @zarlok5294
      @zarlok5294 Рік тому +1

      Another issue is their V 14 requires I 7processors. You can get this in V 13 I think. Better call,before buying

  • @NisGaarde
    @NisGaarde Рік тому +1

    I got this one pretty much immediately. Love it. Awesome on the drum bus.

    • @Il-Cane
      @Il-Cane Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JE1UBfMOmmw/v-deo.html

  • @TracingFlares
    @TracingFlares 7 місяців тому

    just got it... sounds amazing.
    Good track of yours there😊

  • @kingslaphappy1533
    @kingslaphappy1533 Рік тому

    Just bought it earlier today, thanks for explaning it so well.

  • @johnhowarthmusic8706
    @johnhowarthmusic8706 Рік тому +1

    Just bought at $24.99 but cannot activate. It appears that it will not work in Cubase 11 Pro, even though I use other V14 Waves Plugins OK! So, as 'Horseofthedog' warns, they sell cheap, then it costs more to update, either my Cubase (which is not that old!), or wait until they catch up and allow me to use it in CB 11 Pro? When I purchased this, all my Waves Plugins were updated to V14 for "free" but seem to be working OK....

    • @johnhowarthmusic8706
      @johnhowarthmusic8706 Рік тому +1

      Waves Tech just reinstalled Central and BB Tubes works on CB 11 Pro.

  • @bebicemale3016
    @bebicemale3016 Рік тому

    Nice video. The bass sounds awesome! Did you record it with real bass or you used a plugin? If plugin, can you please tell me which plugin? Thx a lot.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому

      Thanks! That's a real bass that I recorded for this song :-)

  • @maxhirsch7035
    @maxhirsch7035 10 місяців тому

    I'm sure that one's final mix/master would sound even better with real tubes in the signal path.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  10 місяців тому

      That all depends what you work with, and how you work with it. Talent over tools imo :-)

  • @thebarbaryghostsf
    @thebarbaryghostsf Рік тому

    thanks for this, I just picked it up on Monday. Love that demo track you were working on too!

  • @mawot_music
    @mawot_music Місяць тому

    on master is gold, too

  • @PashaMulya
    @PashaMulya Рік тому

    Excellent! I liked the sound of the drums! What drums did you use?👍

  • @kickmusicmikeyjones9788
    @kickmusicmikeyjones9788 Рік тому +1

    Yes, liking it on the bass guitar. Proper beastly 80s vibe. I may well invest in it - what a beauty!😆👍

  • @rundajulesproductions7735
    @rundajulesproductions7735 Рік тому +1

    I haven't used it yet, but it seems like they copied "The Oven", a little, with the abstract names of the saturation. I did get the Little Tube and Little Radiator freebies lately, as well as the Black Box giveaway earlier this year and Audio Acustica's Smash the Pumpkin freebie at Halloween. AA also just released a Luca P saturation plug in last week that I'm really liking. It has an oversampling option, as well. All that being said, I still think Softube's emulation of the Overstayer Mas is the best saturator I've come across. But it is pricey!
    Thanks for the video. I'll bet trying these in conjunction with that new version of Waves Rack (whatever it's called!) could help you really target the saturation in really precise and creative ways!

  • @iamtygar
    @iamtygar 6 місяців тому

    wish it had an autogain feature... otherwise I love this plugin, i use it on everything

  • @didcomusic
    @didcomusic Рік тому

    Great saturation, easy to use. Love it.

  • @jakestoneshow
    @jakestoneshow Рік тому

    Amazing tutorial. Thank you SO much for explaining this plugin for me

  • @neilold6804
    @neilold6804 Рік тому

    Isnt it the same as rhe
    Spl twin tube?

  • @thomassicard3733
    @thomassicard3733 Рік тому

    Gotta drive it a harder for us to perceive the diff between type A & B with the drums.

  • @melissashannon2968
    @melissashannon2968 Рік тому

    Nice. I love that track too.

  • @PatrickKCompton
    @PatrickKCompton Рік тому +1

    Hey Chris, just got my copy of this before seeing your video. lol Just played with it a bit and think it's going to be a really useful tool. Take care!

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +1

      Glad you enjoy it :-). Thanks for watching!

  • @trevord4243
    @trevord4243 Рік тому

    Great demo Chris. I just purchased this plugin at the weekend. Was really impressed at its simplicity, but awesome power as you demonstrated here. I wanted a simple goto for my Drums and Bass. I can only record my kit as a stereo mix from my mixer. I can give the kit some individual compression and EQ at the mixer channels. This just allows a really good tweak in the contextual feel of the overall. Love the plugin and love this demo. That bass sounded sweet. Thank you.

    • @Il-Cane
      @Il-Cane Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JE1UBfMOmmw/v-deo.html

  • @ErixSamson
    @ErixSamson Рік тому +2

    The UI is nice

  • @Shablagoo7861
    @Shablagoo7861 Рік тому

    5:25 beat iiiittt

  • @Dprincewillz
    @Dprincewillz Рік тому +1

    Everyone saying the same thing when a plunging saturation is released. Which one is correct? Buy all? Try them and pick the d best😂? But hold on a sec, what do u considered as the best? My rock guitar might not be your 808 bass.

  • @upnhere8513
    @upnhere8513 Рік тому

    louder sounds better, but that is not exactly perceived loudness as you said b/c you did not match the output.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +3

      The cool thing about plugins like this, is that you can download the demo for free and try it out for yourself, then it won't matter if my output was matched or not ;-)

    • @blakpmusic
      @blakpmusic Рік тому +1

      Period ! 😂

  • @lukesuperflyjones
    @lukesuperflyjones Рік тому

    Waves cookies me. It does seem nice. It’s on sale $25 for 40mins…No pressure lol

  • @mcdan2696
    @mcdan2696 Рік тому

    I am convinced!

  • @presetreveal
    @presetreveal Рік тому

    it sound really good

  • @matthewblue7839
    @matthewblue7839 Рік тому

    Yes.

  • @austinsmithofficial
    @austinsmithofficial Рік тому

    I am really considering picking up this plugin. Ever since I got Neutron and Nectar I am just not sure what to buy anymore as both plugins feel like a jack of all trades, HOWEVER I dont like the hefty weight it seems to place on my cpu after using multiple instances of these plugins. This seems like a fantastic plugin to take my bass players already fantastic tone to the next level.
    How does this plugin work on vocals??

  • @ufox77
    @ufox77 8 місяців тому

    I’ve yet to see a you tube reviewer pay any attention to the fact their input gain is massively overloading when using this plugin!

  • @Y42
    @Y42 Рік тому

    "Its a gain changer" - Its funny for me how the wording coming from Waves is mentioned in EVERY video about this! :D
    also yes I am aware they wrote: its a game changer :D

  • @espedale
    @espedale Рік тому +1

    Perceived loudness? Yeah, because it is louder! Look at your meter. Turn down the output to match the original gain. But you already knew that, right?

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому

      😂😂😂 So I'm a sellout? If a like a plugin that I work with, I will talk about it. It cost me way more to make a video like this one than the affiliate commission I get, trust me. My business model is not based on affiliates I can tell you that.

    • @espedale
      @espedale Рік тому +1

      @@mixdownonline I don't know if you are a sellout or not, but you are clearly a talented mix engineer who knows better than to judge the effectiveness of a plugin without compensating for gain increase. I will modify my comment to reflect this.

  • @wadecottingham
    @wadecottingham Рік тому +1

    new Waves plugins won't install on a 2017 iMac i5..

    • @levondarratt787
      @levondarratt787 Рік тому

      may wanna upgrade your 5 year old OS. It's free ! :)

  • @StereotacticMusic
    @StereotacticMusic Рік тому

    love it

  • @OmarBonifacino
    @OmarBonifacino 5 місяців тому

    Great friend. Hi

  • @antonystannard3333
    @antonystannard3333 Рік тому +9

    Maybe watch Paul Thirds video before buying this...

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +6

      I watched it. Paul is a smart guy. For my part, what counts is what a plugin gives me when I mix, does it helps my workflow? Does it make my mix sound better? The rest I don't care much to be honest.

    • @lastwarning1
      @lastwarning1 Рік тому +2

      @@mixdownonline You don’t care that it’s a glorified shelf EQ/volume knob with oversampling that doesn’t work? Way to go. I’m sure it’s all about the music for you. Nothing to do with you being compensated by Waves.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +6

      @@lastwarning1 first of all YES it's just about the music for me, what can I do, I like to serve my clients well. As far as Waves goes, I'm not paid by Waves to make videos, I get affiliate commissions if people use my link to buy Waves plugins, and that's not a lot trust me. It cost me way way more to make a video than the tiny return I get. So for me to make a video on a Plugin, I need to like the plugin.
      BTW, PT never claim the OverSampling didn't work, he said that apparently the bug is between 4x to 8x. So no, that doesn't bug me. That can be fix on a quick update, no big deal

    • @Tut-Judah
      @Tut-Judah Рік тому

      Its good 👍

  • @arash5550
    @arash5550 Рік тому

    try on vocals too...

  • @heddshot87
    @heddshot87 16 днів тому

    Cleaner means "more clean", saying more cleaner means "more more clean"

  • @heavyvibrationstudiopl3256
    @heavyvibrationstudiopl3256 Рік тому +1

    Does world needs a new saturation plugin after tones of it?

  • @victorbicudo1374
    @victorbicudo1374 Рік тому +1

    the hype is real!

  • @boldstreetlad
    @boldstreetlad Рік тому

    I am guessing given the layout and function of this plugin, BB actually stands for Black Box..

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +1

      Not sure, maybe... Not the same type of processing than the Black Box though

    • @Mike_Benz_
      @Mike_Benz_ Рік тому +1

      Sounds nothing like it in my side by side testing

    • @mattbang1072
      @mattbang1072 Рік тому

      Honestly I think it actually is their take on the Black Box. Haven’t used the plug yet, but based on the demos it sounds more like the hardware than PA BB. After using plugin for a couple years, I was surprised by how aggressive the actual hardware is. This seems closer to it.

  • @grahamhughes2025
    @grahamhughes2025 Рік тому

    Dang nabbit. I jumped in and it wont run on my system oS 12.6.1, Intel.....Cubase. I hate that, whether its my own stupidity (we are out there) and there's no BUT WAIt you will need this. I

  • @petervogl9072
    @petervogl9072 Рік тому

    Not sure it actually does anything at lower settings other than higher gain…..once you get levels equal pretty hard to hear or see a difference. Try some analysis on this plugin and show me…..

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +1

      My goal when making plugin videos is not to sale the plugin or to convince anyone to buy it, but to share my experience with it. So I don't need to add more to what I already shared. From this point, you can download the demo and try some analysis an make your own conclusions :-)

    • @petervogl9072
      @petervogl9072 Рік тому

      @@mixdownonline I have …and so have many others at this point because this plugin is becoming a meme…if you’re experience is positive by all means use it and promote it. Have to ask yourself about credibility at some point.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому

      @@petervogl9072 no, no, I think I'll just continue using it, It's not my job to promote it

    • @Il-Cane
      @Il-Cane Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JE1UBfMOmmw/v-deo.html

  • @harrypridmore460
    @harrypridmore460 Рік тому +1

    Wow - a saturation plugin.

  • @DavidCastoExperience
    @DavidCastoExperience Рік тому

    Why cubase?

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +1

      Why not? I've been working with Cubase since 2002

    • @DavidCastoExperience
      @DavidCastoExperience Рік тому

      @@mixdownonline “because”. I’m asking why genuinely but great reply 👍

    • @skeletonmodel
      @skeletonmodel Рік тому +1

      @@DavidCastoExperience I think a lot of people that have been mixing a long time (before a Pro 1, ableton and others getting more serious) had a few options: ProTools which needed actual hardware to run, Logic that was Apple and Cubase. Cubase being a stable serious platform was an obvious choice for people who stuck with it. Nowadays I'm sure he couldve gone either way. All platforms are great and take desirable functions from eachother. It will be 5 years till they do the exact same without any
      differences

    • @DavidCastoExperience
      @DavidCastoExperience Рік тому +1

      @@skeletonmodel I remember those day shoot I used to have cubase back then but wonder if they see benefits in not switching

  • @JohnnyMilkwater
    @JohnnyMilkwater Рік тому +3

    God loves you all! The Father sent the Son to die for you and your sins so that you could experience freedom to the fullest! Believe in Christ's death and resurrection (which sealed the work done on the cross) for your salvation and the forgiveness of sins! God bless you all, I will keep you all in my prayers!

  • @evilschaeferhund
    @evilschaeferhund Рік тому +1

    Nobody needs another Saturation Plugin.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +1

      I agree, but like restaurants, nobody needs another Burger place, but somehow there's always a new Burger place that blows my mind every time ;-)

    • @evilschaeferhund
      @evilschaeferhund Рік тому

      @@mixdownonline 😎

  • @5amJones69
    @5amJones69 22 дні тому

    Skip to 4:00 for audio. Jesus christ mate.

  • @uzvardsvards
    @uzvardsvards Рік тому +1

    Be careful before you buy this plugin. Chek suppurted DAWs! For example Wavelab is not supported!

    • @levondarratt787
      @levondarratt787 Рік тому +2

      Wavelab is NOT a DAW dude. It's an editor, like Audition. For sound correction and mastering. You cannot produce a time based song in it.

  • @Mix3dbyMark
    @Mix3dbyMark Рік тому +1

    put it through the doctor

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому +1

      I'd rather put it through my ears ;-)

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому

      What I expect from a Plugin review are real examples from an actual mix. That's the best way to hear how the plugin sounds like and if it's a good fit for the viewer.

    • @Mix3dbyMark
      @Mix3dbyMark Рік тому +1

      @@mixdownonline Look, I trust my ears and my room.
      But things like Plugin Doctor and True Balance are great tools for seeing what your ears can and can't hear.

    • @mixdownonline
      @mixdownonline  Рік тому

      @@Mix3dbyMark Absolutely

  • @saren6538
    @saren6538 Рік тому

    Fancy looking plugin, I have some tube stuff and this doesn’t sound nothing like real tubes
    A plug-in can’t emulate real vacuum tubes.. this sounds like a saturation plug in

  • @lX-NDR
    @lX-NDR Рік тому

    im sorry chris but i dont like the plugin. i think its snake oil. if you truly understand saturation this plugin will be not for you. i do agree it makes certain things clear. in my opinion the free radiator from soundtoys is better on the drumbuss. decapitator from soundtoys of the stock saturate plugins from cubase give me better results. im no expert on how plugins are build but i do see videos pop up the levels aint matching the presets?

  • @kjsilent
    @kjsilent Рік тому +2

    Wave plugins.. always feel like they do nothing. I don't hear any difference.

    • @spitefulcrow5026
      @spitefulcrow5026 8 місяців тому

      It's subtle saturation. Gives the signal that nice analog warmth were all chasing

    • @BukanIbuMu
      @BukanIbuMu 3 місяці тому

      Check your ears

  • @catarinomedina9557
    @catarinomedina9557 Рік тому

    I like your videos except this one ..tired of saturation plugins...I have only from uad ...the Fatso