TONY BANKS INTERVIEW 1 :"SUPPER'S READY","LAMB LIES DOWN", EARLY GENESIS SOUND, MUSICAL INFLUENCES
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TONY BANKS, the GENESIS co-founder, composer and keyboard player, talks to Director John Edginton in the first part of this 2014 interview.
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** THE 2014 GENESIS REUNION INTERVIEW PART ONE with PETER GABRIEL, TONY BANKS & MIKE RUTHERFORD. is here • Video
In PART TWO they were joined by PHIL COLLINS & STEVE HACKETT... now available here :
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PART THREE is here : • Video
PART FOUR here : • Video
I think this is one of the better interviews with Tony Banks and at times he can be a bit contradictory but here he was not at all. Love the Gabriel era of Genesis and the album's Trespass - The Lamb are never that far away from my turntable so to speak even today.
Steve Is The Fucking Man! He truly kept to the sound and developed it in such a strong way. A
I’m always amazed at what lengths Tony, Mike and Phil - and for that matter Peter Gabriel, are almost dismissive of Steve Hackett’s enormous contribution to Genesis - both during his tenure with them, and in keeping the bands music so alive in the public consciousness in the past 10 years! He is an absolutely integral part of their story - whether they like it or not, and they should be far more vocal in acknowledging him!
I totally agree. Steve's contribution is so underrated. His playing is so emotional and Genesis would not have been the same without him.
I don’t think you know how much Steve honestly contributed 😂
I'm always amazed by people on the internet who know nothing about who wrote what feel the need to chime in and make bold claims about who made what contributions as if they know more about it than the people in the band.
Steve actually didn’t do a lot of writing for the band. He and Phil were mainly used for their musical expertise in the early days and Tony, Mike and Peter did the bulk of the songwriting. It wasn’t until Trick and Wind, after Peter left, that Steve was really allowed to contribute as a writer and even then he only contributed a couple of songs with Tony and Mike doing most of the writing. Also, sound-wise Steve contributed, but Genesis was never a guitar-driven band in terms of sound. Unlike many bands, their sound has always been dominated by keyboards, which of course is Tony. And Mike obviously was a guitarist too, and some of the sounds people attribute to Steve, particularly the 12-string stuff and a lot of the rhythmic playing was actually Mike. Steve handled the solos, some of which, like FOF were reinterpretations of keyboard parts. So I disagree that Steve is underrated. He gets the credit he deserves for the 6 years he was in the band. He was part of the sound but certainly not THE sound, just as he was part of the band but not THE band, and chose to leave by his own free will to pursue a solo career.
@@studioannur221 While I would agree with your comment in general, I wouldn't call his contribution insignificant. He came up with their first hit "I know what I like" and "After the Ordeal" on SEBTP, as well as the iconic "Horisons" on Foxtrot. In many ways, I would agree that Mike's contributions are somewhat more overlooked than even Steve's. But to me, and I daresay many other fans, the most popular Genesis lineup is Gabriel, Banks, Rutherford, Hackett and Collins for a very sonic reason.
I'll just say this...Tony is so good. I sort of think he's really the spinal column of this, my favorite group. I take NOTHING away from the other classic four in that line-up...all musical giants. But something special about Tony. Thanks Mr. Banks; Fantastic songs and playing from ALL you Genesis guys. Tony
I agree that Fly On a Windshield is one of the best tracks on Lamb.
I would love to see these interviews in their entirety in one clip. Thank you so much for sharing your work. These are gems.
Thanks for your appreciation! More to come... !
Tony seems like a very selfless and empathic person, I would imagine him being helpful and supportive in any musical collaboration. Not a total narcissist at all.
He's grown a lot as a person, but back in the early days he was responsible for many arguments and power plays at recording sessions. It usually broke down to him and Mike against either Peter or Steve. Phil usually took their side because they did the majority of writing. That's a major reason why both Peter and Steve left the band. They were frustrated from having their contributions shot down. Steve definitely had strong material for W and W, but he had to let songs like Wot Gorilla and the bloated 6 minute, Your Own Special Way take precedence over Inside and Out and Please Don't Touch.
I think Tony finally sees how overbearing he was when he considered Genesis 'his band'.
Without equal. Great talent. Very underrated.
Your questions are good and all the band members provide answers that really flesh out the music itself. Genesis always make the effort to do that, which is not typical. I've read quite a few musician biographies lately and most are about events, but much less about the creative thought process. (I'd say Macca is another exception to that.)
We absolutely loved it….. stories delivered through music… real music not copied….oh more please ( Genesis) 😅🎉
Just have to mention after relistening to this after a year that Tony should get more credit for that 'loud bit...quiet bit' thing. That was always part of classical music, but certainly not popular music, usually at most there is a growing crescendo of music as more instruments are added as the song goes on.
But Husker Du and then the Pixies and some other bands picked up on this in the eighties and a lot of the 'grunge' bands really jumped into the 'loud bit...quiet bit' in a VERY big way. I think the documentary on the Pixies was literally called 'loud quiet loud'. His standout example is always Pharoahs (I'll leave that to diehard fans to figure out what song that is), but I think Musical Box is likely my favourite, but Suppers Ready is pretty spectacular. Until he mentioned it about 'the first bit of Musical Box is a strong bit..but then it never comes back again" I had forgotten that I used to pick up the needle (yes, I'm that old) and relisten to the first part, and be pissed off that it 'never comes back again'. That kind of 'artistic integrity' where you are almost openly taunting the audience is really what makes music 'artistic'. Another example of that I've noticed is the beginning of 'Silver Rainbow" where the rhythm is just slightly off and jarring. It would be like abba doing a concert and halfway through the disco it switched to atonal blues. It just 'fucks' with your brain a little bit, and its that kind of thing that really helps you notice what Captain Beefheart talks about with his music "I'm trying to break up the catatonia, and rock is becoming that". I think THAT is what really separates early from late Genesis, later on they were just writing songs for the audience, where the earlier stuff you can tell they were writing for themselves, much like Monty Python says they were mostly just making one another laugh. In conclusion, 'their likes will never be there again'.
Its kind of odd that Tony is always seen as the most kind of stoic and straightforward guy, and yet it was him who thinks of sticking the insane WIllow Farm onto Suppers Ready, recognizing that it was becoming the same as Musical Box. Those are the kind of interesting artistic insights that would be nice to have more detail on. Ironically, had Suppers Ready been shorter pieces, it wouldn't have suffered what it did...beign too long to play in concert or on radio. For those who are fans of Apocalypse in 9/8 they should listen to Marillions Grendel, which has a section which was clearly lifted from that.
I wasn't familiar with "in held twas I" - good recommendation. I love Matt Fisher's Hammond playing with Procol.
Have you heard Pilgrims Progress on Salty Dog? Great song, organ and vocal.
Hogweed! Love that one
It might be because you loved The Day of the Triffids 😊😊😊.
Heracleum mantegazziani.
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Tony IS Genesis: if you asked him what the third chord he played on Can-Utility and the Coastliners (and what inversion he used), I bet he could tell you... 😉 Brilliant.
Tony is one sharp dude. I especially enjoyed the bits where his eyes light up. I’m going to get that Procul Harum album (my original lost in the mists of times gone past).
I found what he said about PH and In Held Twas In I interesting also. I recently got it on CD and listened to it a lot on vinyl in the 60's. It absolutely is a blueprint for Suppers Ready, and the song Twas Teatime at the Circus plays the same role as Willow Farm. I wonder how deliberate the similarly was.
We know, Tony.
Speaking wise he reminds me of Nick Mason..
Great interview, as others are saying - thanks!
I LOVE that edit where the Mellotron is suddenly a bit flat. A magical and mystical moment - no matter that it was an error, an equipment problem - a happy accident. Real pity they corrected it for the remix - but I dislike pretty much all of the remixes, they lost a lot of the feel of the originals, and the brittle over-emphasised treble is unlistenable to me.
That error in "Foxtrot" was corrected on the Definitive Edition remasters also. Funny how people can have such opposite impressions about the same item! I dislike the originals of "Foxtrot" and especially "Nursery Cryme." I originally thought something was wrong with the equipment when I played "Cryme" on LP. The "Foxtrot" Definitive Ed. CD cleared some of that up, but "Cryme" remained muddy till Nick did the remix and then the sun came out! It's a similar story with the Chicago II (silver cover) LP, which has 3 extant remixes all of which sound better to me than the original stereo, though some fans have real affection for that compressed "AM radio" sound.
A good interview. Quite typical of Tony. I have to admit that I was a bit thrown by the Stereo image on this video. It's backwards. Tony is on camera, in the left channel, and John, off camera, to the left, is in the right channel.
hmmm... sometimes things don't go quite according to plan!
Such disregard for Steve Hacket
Always nice to hear Tony Banks interviews, but hate to be critical but I couldn't even understand most of the questions.
Is the audio level too low or is it the actual wording of my questions ? If the latter, please give examples.. I'm genuinely interested . Thanks!
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES No, I couldn't for the life of me figure out what you were asking. He seemed to just answer 'in general', around what the question or comment seemed to pertain to. I'll relisten to it again later after work and give some examples.
@@mikearchibald744 Hi Mike. thanks. I understand..Think of it as an informal conversation. That's my general approach with making documentaries..not to get into over-speciific questions but to have a more relaxed discussion with the subject. In this case Tony was pretty tense about the "interview" and hoped we could get it all over with as quickly as possible. We eventually talked for 2.5 hours as he warmed to the whole feel of what we were doing... and he opened up much more as a result.
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Fair enough, good job then.
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES That's the secret of a good interviewer John. Tony is a very 'diificult' and complex man.
Thanks for posting these interviews John
My pleasure!