Replacing the engine in our 200 Series Landcruiser (Part 2/3)
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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Following on from Part 1, we've decided to replace the engine in the 200...no small feat, but worthwhile, and I can't wait to get back on the tracks again soon.
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Happy, Safe Adventuring - Cheers Graham.
I've had too many friends spending a fortune on VDJ200 engine problems in the last 12 months
Thanks for such an honest video
Full credit to old mate swinging the spanners, no mechanic likes working with the customer breathing down his neck like you were. A lesser man would have crumbled and told you exactly where to go!
Thanks for sharing. Not an easy decision and such a complex engine. All the best. I ruthlessly serviced my 40th anniversary from new and it was still running well at 400,000k. Only stopped when it was borrowed and rolled! You should have a good vehicle from now. Cheers
After replacing a dusted engine, did Toyota warn you to only use a genuine aircleaner box and filter to protect the warranty?
That'd be pretty rich!
What’s your plans to stop it happening again? Air filter / air box wise?
DieRunning1 Nothing... He's going to suck dust again but thinks it's ok because the Toyota warranty" will save the day 😂😂😂.... I'm lost for words. This nice but clueless character might want to do some research into so called toyota warranty claim situations re dust entry because of the airbox design... We're is easy to see Toyota will bend you over again without lube and ram you hard with all they have. But hey toyota are the only real 4x4 you must have if going bush... Just a shame with such pedigree they couldn't make an airbox to keep dust from your 30k engine... There needs to be a high end legal class action taken to these pricks for selling such a f*ck up and screwing over the hundreds of thousands customers who are dusting engines many of whom would have no idea they are doing it
Hahaha love your response Dave - watch Part 3/3 👍🏻
Felt your pain and witnessed your despair but wow on your mechanic .However you were in a lot of footage being a bonnet emblem and how he didn't tell you to F off out of his office is a credit to him .
Well, he's being hamstrung by the guy for 30k in repairs over what could either be a worn piston ring or even a head gasket. Both are very easily repaired.
200 series overpriced over rated
Todd Lambert True!
Rubbish - you obviously want one, but can't afford it!
@@rodneyrowell7743😂😂😂
The only thing we're keeping off the old engine is the intake.....
Bugger, gotta wash my face... just went out and kissed my diesel 80 series :)
Man what a piece of crap the 200 series is. Spend all that money on it, being expensive asf off the bat, then having to spend even more dollars to fix a design flaw to get it running again. Over rated asf seems toyota is just making a livin off the name not the product it puts out.
Why would you put the stock airbox back in again, i know you mentioned warranty in the video but 30k replacement is to messed up to run the same exact setup again.
That airbox is the root cause of this engine failure. I also cant believe they put the factory airbox back on the vehicle. They are totally inadequate.
@@hansschutte5654 i agree. Hard to think warranty on the engine would be knocked back if an aftermarket air box is installed that lets in zero dust what so ever and delivers the required air flow the engine requires what would toyota complain about. Putting the stock one on for the warranty year period is playing Russian roulette again.
Oh what a feeling....
krump 7 yep the 200 series is what’s keeping the value of my hdj100 high due to the fact that out of warranty they are like owning a bmw or Merc come time to even do minor maintenance items on them like injectors costs a fortune. Once the value hits $20k on them a set of injectors will be 1/3 the value of the car and if the engine gets dusted then it’s over the cost of the vehicle to repair which will have them sent to the wreckers.
Bizarre he never said anything about it... They order the engine but not a decent air box situation 🤣.
30k on a long engine in this... Got to be proper stupid.... Bonkers
Thanks man, You have helped me quite on a L200 i am working on with your videos.
Any plans on getting rid of the factory air box when that was a failure point for ingesting dust into the motor?
Good question? Or what else you are going to do to ensure it didn't happen again?
Keep an eye on your air filter. It's 4 clips and it's out.
I hope you ordered a "40K in engine repairs because Toyota can't design an air filter box" rear window sticker.
Hahahaha - I’ll take it up with someone I know
@@great_offroad_adventures What brand air filter were you running?
"We" made good progress.
Only one bloke there was working.
And damn I made a good video after all my hard work that day 😂😂😂
@@great_offroad_adventures filming doesn't contribute to physical work on the vehicle. I've done up a couple cars now and have never stolen anyone's thunder. I know what I have done myself and I know what I've had help with. And thats exactly how I explain it to cunts.
That y62 in the background but 😍🥰
Hahaha - few nice ones go through AMV, even the owner has a nice one (super charged too)....don’t tell him I think it’s nice 😂
Love old mate in the background raise his eyebrows when you mention the engine being in the car 'in the next day or so'.
Hahaha - that was the Thursday afternoon, it went in Friday morning & drove it home on Monday......so I wasn’t too far out on my prediction at the time.
For what kind of job was the Y62 in the workshop? Sparkplug change?
Even for a Toyota minded guy like me it's unbelievable people keep pouring money into these 200 series. When it isn't the airbox, it's an injector, the starter, the DPF, a piston, the turbo's ...
Dunno - probably getting supercharged or something? AMV see plenty of them & build plenty for them.
makes me want to buy an 80 series or even a 105 and drop a barra in it.. with a custom airbox .. $1 petrol soon =D
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If everyone knows that dusting is an issue for years now why not install an aftermarket air box first instead of other upgrades?
AMV are fantastic. Would love to see a tear down video of the old engine and see the damage. Curious to know if rings, bore or both and severity of either. May help a future person to decide a repair option. Great work AMV Auto
I got a MQ Triton I flag the shit of it full on deep mud water crossing barigton top 4wd, Fraser, Moreton etc... It's been to hell it's rusty as hell but never had a failure I mean before I even put a snorkel I had sand all over my air box and surprisingly no damage was done the all prep with the price of the car cost me around 45k... And we talking about a solids build from winch to air locker all round protection catch can... I mean cheap isn't the best solution but look never had any issues
"'My Mamma used to say: Stupid is, Stupid DUST.....!!!😂😂😆
why would dust attack individual cylinders? I would expect the airflow and dust be equally distributed. It would be interesting to see the rings and bore...
I'd be heartbroken mate
I've been thinking the same especially just 1 cylinder, maybe a dodgy injector has washed the bore and caused this issue, also if the motor is dusted I would like to see the turbo vanes for wear, I know that the intake are aluminium so there would be obvious signs of wear.
It's a very expensive exercise and hopefully all us 200 series owners get some useful information from this to prevent this happening to us.
@@mrovensy337 Definitely would want to see the turbo vanes, one of the first things I did was boroscope the turbos. It was a very cheap option considering the cost of the other options available on what is a complicated/difficult engine to work on.
What does it cost to replace the starter motor? I've never seen one buried inside the block like that. Geez. Not an easy job
$500-600 for a genuine starter & 2days labor at best.
it costs nothing,dont buy the v8 td..there shit..
so .. brand new 200 series..
rip the Airbox out slap in a good snorkel and a Custom Sealed Air Box ___ got it ;D
Was there a reason you did't pressure wash the engine bay before you started taking the engine apart ?
Was thinking the same thing and giving the pieces reused on the engine a hot tub bath as well.
Because it would have made a mess on the floor - by the time we got the engine out, batteries etc were all out which meant the car wasn’t movable (steering lock etc).
And I made an owners call in regards to washing the reused parts.....what’s the point? It’s no show pony? Give it a month it’ll all look the same again & honesly once the engines reinstalled, with engine cover over the top, you can’t even see it’s new & shiney.
Anyone who pressure washes their engine bay has rocks in their head! high pressure and seals and electrical connections dont mix.
Your engine bay must look like shit , i pressure wash mine all the time after going off road. Just have to be careful . And as far as seals are concerned he was rebuilding the engine
@@stephenpwilks what you are saying makes no sense. you pressure wash to make it apparently cleaner than my hand-washed one where i take more time and attention to detail? if anything, you are the one not taking care of your engine bay. just blast the top with water and you are good to go hey mate. i bet you are the type of fella who says " free carwash " when you go through a water crossing haha.
Great to see it back Graham .
What are you going to do about the engine air filter?
Replace it i would think.
Is there much difference between the old and new engines? Any Toyota design mods since yours was produced? Also, are you able to do a full cost breakdown as part of the video? A few of us may have to make similar decisions in the future.
Yes mate, they drop the rings at 180,000 now. They weren't selling enough replacement engines.
hope those turbos are upgrades .. not stock.. and a brand new custom alloy airbox
300kw and 600nm
Why would you not keen engine bay and old part's before install????
Because the car was immobile in the workshop….which meant either wash it and flood the whole workshop….or not wash it.
Remember it’s a 4WD, not a show car….within a week of having the new motor in, we were away camping, travelling and making everything dirty again.
Congratulations Graham,good to see ya smiling again mate 👍
Should of just put a turbo Barra in it.
Plenty of power and cheap and plentiful parts.
Did you look at doing a rebuild to your old engine? Was doing a ring and bearings rebuild assessed? Cheers
I remember the days when diesels were reliable. They were good times.
Whish u all the best mate with your new engine looking forward to the next adventure
Good to it's back on the road.
Was actual fault/cause diagnosed or just went with the dust only going to one cylinder theory ?
Given other Toyota common rails have known injector issues and even with "good scan results" ?
Haven’t pulled the old motor apart yet - definitely showing dust damage 2,4,5,8 all are down, number 2 could be something else as it’s so much worse like you said....will update once we have more info.
@@great_offroad_adventures thanks for the up date.
I'm curious on what your air maintenance had been.
Do you like to inspect and "clean" often especially while off road, or only inspect and replace ?
I know the vid is 12 month's old but why the hell would you put it back together with the factory air box
I love how convincing this video was…..It never moved a meter on the new motor with the old airbox…i put in the moonlight airbox and it’s been completely dust free (I’ll have a video on it soon).
Legend Neil
Kick it the guts Neil
Thanks for sharing mate 👍
Thanks for the support 👍🏻
Is this a known fault with the 200 series?? If so it shows a lack of R&D on Toyota's part. Also as others have said, if the factory air box was not sealing then why are you re-using it?? Have you come to any conclusions as to how the air box failed??
All the info about the airbox & what’s happening next is coming in next weeks video.
Wow that is ridiculous! That's almost as much as a new truck here. I can't get over some of the stupid things Toyota does, like where they put the starter. You need a Ford!
30k jeez man that’s commitment,good luck
What has been your air air filter solution so far
Good on you matey thanks for the progress videos.
Did you decarbonize the egr valve or replace the whole thing?
Bloody awsome mate im so happy for you 👌
Cheers mate - appreciate the support!!!
Might as well go a 100 series. Can buy one second hand, rebuild the engine, put heaps of fruit on it and still have more cash left over for spares and repairs. Plus 100 FTE is more reliable and stronger than the 200 motors
Do you plan on changing the factory airbox out for an aftermarket brand now?
Great advertisement for NOT buying a 200 series.
Sorry if I missed it but what prompted you to check compressing in the first place? Did you have a noticeable problem or was it just routine inspection that uncovered it?
Was down on boost & power, blowing moderate amounts of black smoke....we all thought turbos which is why I went in, but also decided to do compression check before doing turbos, on the off chance it was something hidden.
Turbos were needing replacement as well - but obviously also found the compression problem.
for me the land cruiser is like the top of the line toyota product that you can buy, i hope toyota treat those owners well
Just done a brand new donk in 2012 200 series i never removed starter and i takw until i had the old enginw out and on the fround. Heaps easier
I also left ac condenser in and mine had converter on the back of engine still and old engine was seized
Must be a great 4wd if your willing to spend the money for another motor and I know 280 plus KS doesn't seem much but you obviously spend a lot of time off road so pretty good had it had an aftermarket air box done or spent its time in the city could you have seen a lot more?
So have you done anything to prevent dust ingestion again? Thanks for the videos.
Its a real pitty the newer toyotas are so unreliable compared to the older models
Sure is 😢
WISH FURTHER NEW ENGINE AS HIGH COST TO REPAIR THEM.
THANK YOU FOR SHARE THE VIDEO
Take the old engine apart so viewers can see whats inside, when a 4x4 wrecker showed me one in pieces i couldn't believe what a piece of crap it was, he said he does not have any problems selling those engines.
do you get anything back on the old engine. Must have some value to it
Their is some value to it - just finding the right person who wants to take it away to rebuild it.
Only 1mechanic on a job like this wow this guy know how to save money man.
Best of luck mate, watched part one of this and really felt for you guys. Hope you don’t run into any troubles second time around
What and where is the secret plug please.
I'm about to do the same once my new radiator gets here.
Thanks
Literally here looking for it too
Pretty sure it’s injector pump which is where oil cap is
Just sick that you had to go through this . It’s just not right!!!!
Thanks mate - appreciate the support 🙏🏻
serves him right for buying a mall car as a 4wd..
Good video man! What’s the fuel economy on that car? Mines runnin about 16lts per hundred on 110kph
This is insane ... how come you did nothing to prevent .... then a new engine? what for ... as a Mechanic i just cant believe this ... anyhow and then the price ..for this cash you can pay a new basic FJ cruiser here in Saudi Arabia hehe... living in the desert for ages never came across such a thing like watching the dust eating up your engine :))
Yeah hard decision that one imo.
I think you said it had done 280k which means g/box, diffs and everything else have also done that much work as well so hopefully all those bits are more reliable and long lived than it appears their motors are.
Was chatting to my brother just now and mentioned your video. He has mates who have just traded their 200 series in for this reason and got..........wait for it.............Hiluxes.
Seriously if I spent that much money on one of these things and it broke from a known issue there is no way I would be buying another one of their products.
My brother has a Pajero which he uses very hard, off road stuff and towing big weights very regularly. The only thing he has had to replace is shocks on this one at 160k when he finally managed to destroy one.
Other than a battery it is the only part he has replaced and it looks like it will go for a long time yet.
Don't know why people persevere with these things tbh. He has towed stuff with a 200 series that his mate owns and reckons the Pajero does a better job and uses less fuel.
Obviously not as big though.
pajero are better choice,but hilux,??,there just as bad as the 200.people are brainwashed into toyota,s..ill keep my f series,strong,never break,roomy,multiple petrol/diesel choices for any new/old model.parts from 1965 are still interchangeable,unlike toyota that change every 6 months.
Spending £2000 on a new (65 k miles on it) engine (fitted) for my sprinter van seems so cheap now.. took water in the air box and bent a rod.
As a Toyota owner after accidentally coming to watch this video. The hand grenade joke is on us now☹️
Unfortunately these things do have their achilles heals
@@great_offroad_adventures
Sure do. Cant believe how stupidly inadequate the air intake system is.
toyota are a joke..over priced under powered,too much tech for what they are..garbage..
Did you find the 10mm?
Did you see that on my IG story?
Any comments on low coolant??
Is it possible to remove the turbos with the engine in?
Yes it is, it’s a prick of a task though, needs to be done through the wheel arches and on one side, you need to remove the studs rather than just the nuts. Because the motor was out, was easier for us just to swap them outside the vehicle.
make sure you change that air box. the factory ones are crap. good luck with the new motor.
Cheers mate - it’s on the cards the day warranty expires.
@@great_offroad_adventuresbe carefull of that Toyota warranty I have been burnt in the past by Toyota that's why I refuse to buy another cruiser or deal with them.
Well done in making all the effort!! I’m a new subscriber, so apologies for asking, but what killed the old engine?
Thanks for subscribing - dust killed the motor, bypassing the seal.
So no one from Toyota was prepared to assist at all?
You mention my local Toyota Dealer at Galleria Toyota, who supplied the new crate motor, were they able to help at all with any discounts on parts?
Been dying to buy a new 200 Sahara from them this year before they go to the V6 next model year, but not now after watching this!
Trip in a van had something catastrophic with his 79 series at just under 100,000 kms - so still under warranty.
Had to get it towed from NT to Cairns along with his van etc to have it all fixed.
Back in the early 90’s when there were issues with big end bearings on the 80 series diesels - Toyota used to come to the party on labour costs to swap the big ends shells every 100,000 kms even outside warranty kilometers.
That was part of the reason Toyota built its cult like following, but not any more it seems.
Once upon a time “saving face” to the Japanese owners at Toyota meant something, but no longer.
Won’t be buying a cruiser it seems, better stick with the 7.3 F250 a bit longer.
Galleria were immensely helpful in gathering parts & due to the enormity of the job, they did give me a good discount on parts.
Yeah the trip in a van family cooked the engine in their BT50 when a hose failed....that could happen to any vehicle in all honesty.
Loving the W.A videos or your trips. What exactly happened to the old engine?
Вот это сервис, у нас лет через 30 только начнутся появляться.
New airbox (sealed)????
Never say go over the top as this vehicle is used in remote areas. You have to have a fleet mentality. If something is at end of sercice left. Change it.
Was it an option to rebuild your engine? You could probably solve the problem by new a piston or even piston rings.
It was, but the time involved to do that was going to cost just as much as putting in the new engine.
Why would you not pressure clean this entire engine bay before working on it? Opening up common rail injection systems must be done in clean as practically possible work environments and here this lot are transferring visually dirt covered components on to a new engine! WTF dude.
Are you going to get a better custom air filter?
Yeah I will be - I’m not going to risk the second motor....but I have to run the factory setup whilst this engine is under warranty.
Must have been an amazing feeling driving it out of the workshop!
Oh what feeling 30k down lol
I Rex Hunt get the dog!
@@Phil_McAvity bust up on old mates wallet
Ouch! That doesn’t sound good, I’ll watch it tomorrow morning once it’s live.
What a nightmare....
That is a heavily loaded vehicle. Paid the price.
Surely you are looking to replace the airbox with an aftermarket one that will actually seal? Unless that means your warranty on the new engine is void? Catch 22....
Just smashed the nail on the head mate - in that catch22.
Engines barely done 2500kms, until I’m happy everything is copacetic or the parts warranty expires I’m using Toyota box & filters......the day I can swap to aftermarket, I will.
Bugger, just gotta keep an eye on it until then. Glad you are back on the road mate! Look forwrd to the next video.
Cheers mate - exactly!!! Taken all the preventative measures....I’m sure we will be alright until we can change the airbox over 😉
any vehicle warranty is worth nothing..buy sensible,not toyota.
why didnt you clean the engine bay first,instead of working in dirt/dust.
Because it was clean, all the dirt & dust was unseen & covered by trim panels etc....couldn’t clean it once engine was out, as the car was immobility without batteries etc all in.
slap a $1000 on a number in roulette. You will have $5000 left over for beers
Good deci
We’re the injectors ever replaced on the previous motor ?.
Best of luck on the new motor, look forward to the next videos.
Always scanned and never were worse than +1.6 or -2.1 and spec is +/- 3.0....so never felt the need to change them.
Should have brought a y62!
Mmmm - a charged one would be nice.....maybe in a few years (decade).
I agree the Y62 is underrated
If they weren’t so ugly
@@JimBob-vb8oz 2020 models isn't so bad although Australia missed out on the interior upgrade... bastards
To coin a phrase, "BUGGER" you paid Toyota their random money.
Yep - “bugger”
How the hell did you get all that for $30k? I have to replace the motor in mine, the long motor alone is $18k from toyota. You mentioned new turbos ($6k), new fuel pump, new cooling system, new pumps etc - all that is way, way over $30k.
Shop around - I got my motor for $16K, both turbos for $3K, etc etc.
@@great_offroad_adventures thanks.
Why not just fix the old engine ?
Costs the same to rebuild it as it does to fit a new one - quicker turn around to fit a new one & new one comes with a lot of new parts easily over looked.
Yeh mate, spent all day cleaning & waxing after taking her out. Nah mate, haven't bothered cleaning the engine bay or underneath since i got her😂
i thought i knew that river crossing in the intro, that's the blackwood river XD ask me about the bent pole on there
I knew there would be a story behind that pole 😂
The vdj is known to have poor cylinder cooling causing issues
First person to ever say that mate - how many more people have had issues with dust?
Should have bought a Patrol!!
I’d be suing Toyota for the repair bill and the inconveniences you’ve had to endure. The design or the lack of sealing of the air filter and or air box has caused this problem, then Toyota is liable.
Knowing the weaknesses of this model of Toyota, l wouldn’t buy one. A mate of mine has the same model, it is now up for sale, before the same happens to his vehicle. These modern vehicles are a nightmare to work on, just not worth buying anymore. Better you than l. These mechanical repair shops must be making a “killing” fixing these modern day money pits. Good luck with it in the future.
I bet Toyota give him a good deal. Because of bad advertising for Toyota. Toyota's always have had bad air filter system
Toyota don’t want to know about it out of warranty - sadly....and I don’t have the time or money to start a legal battle with them. Besides my local dealer helping me out with pricing on parts of which I still paid $24K of parts - I got zero help from Toyota.
AMV did all the labor which was another $5K and again, there was a small discount from them, due to them sponsoring the channel....hard to say they are making a “killing” considering the time involved.
They are great. It just wasn't taken care of. I've been working in these motors since they were released. They have had issues in the earlier engines. But they are tough. The problem is. This whole scenario wasn't required. A whole lot of wasted money.
ttomred4000 what do you suggest should have happened instead?
@@buffomarinus17 taking Toyota to court would be idiotic. What are you going to get out of it? A 200 series duster with high ks. Ridiculous. Simple steps you can take to avoid doing this. If you'd like I can show you you in a vid. Dm me
30k on a old car. You are not well man.I think I heard it had done 280,000km already in another video but might be mistaken?
Correct it’s done 300K now - goes like a trooper.....$30K to fix this or $70K to buy a new one & rebuild it back to this same standard.....go figure.