You're right guys, this is applicable to any endeavor in life. We have to take responsibility for our own failures and our own success. Failure gives us the opportunity to grow and boy, there's nothing sweeter than tasting the success we built ourselves. Fantastic reminder!
such great advise, and the argument about how to redirect those feelings of frustration in to music and create something positive from it, and that may help to move someone in deep ways, not by being angry but just by , well, being positive. There is probably no better medium than music that can turn negative emotions into positive ones.
that example Marty mentioned about the guy who was holding onto those ten songs so defiantly tells me how much emotional investment we can put into our songs, which may be a great subject in how it can not only help us but also hinder us from being creative.P.S. I've got a habit of commenting directly after a point has been made without waiting to see if it gets addressed at some point further on. So please excuse my impulsivity, though I will leave my comment but just to let you know. (there's a self mocking/knowing wry smile on my face as I write)
As a guy, if you ever walk into a room with a beautiful woman, no one is looking at you, when they are looking toward you - they are looking at her. If you walk into the room alone, chances are, no one is looking at you. As a songwriter, if I walk into a room with a great song, no one is looking at me, they are looking at that song, because its not about me, its about the song. If I want to be noticed, I'd better walk into the room with a great song. So I work hard towards walking into the room with a great song and not asking to get invited into that room without one. If you want to get noticed in the room, its about the girl...uh, I mean the song...
Here is a future topic to discuss. This is a true story. As a lifelong songwriter with several cuts, I find this story to be sad and shocking and worthy of sharing. I wrote a song with two other well-known and established songwriters in Nashville. The song was eventually pitched to an independent artist who recorded it on his own dime. The independent artist contacted me to tell me he was cutting my song and wanted my publisher's information. Then, He tells me he took it upon himself to rewrite one of the verses. (It seems he didn't like our original). He also said that he was listing himself as one of the writers. I laughed and said, you're joking? He assured me he was serious. I replied, "So, why not write a new verse to "Yesterday" and claim you're also a co-writer. He hung up on me. He eventually released the song and then uploaded his information to ASCAP, and ASCAP has listed this guy as one of the writers. I sent an email to ASCAP, and they have yet to reply. ASCAP has the original listing of the song with the three original writers. They also have this newly uploaded listing with this guy as the 4th writer. So, here is a question for you songwriters. If you pitched a song to an independent artist without your knowledge, they rewrote the verse, would you accept this practice? and if the song did in fact get famous over social media? What are your thoughts?
Man that really sucks. Legally someone needs permission of the original copyright owners to change a copyright. But people will try anything. So then, is it worth it to take legal action? I have a friend that wrote a big Elvis song. A new artist cut it an added a new bridge and wanted credit. My friend had to fight to keep them off the copyright, but won. Hate that that happened to you. ~CM
@@SongTownUSA The ignorance of people is shocking. The nerve of this behavior is mind blowing. In your example, the fact that your friend had to go to court to keep this other writer off the copyright is unreal. Perhaps, you should do a segment on this and educate the people that are tuning in. Thanks for writing back.
@@jonmichaels3113 Let us know when ASCAP replies. Interested in hearing their reply..Make sure they know the artist had no permission to change the copyright. Oh, and did one of your co-writers or publisher okay the new version?
Folks... the old business model of Music Publishers and Record Labels developing songwriters and artists has been over for a very long time...writers and artists gotta' get traction on their own by writing great songs that people will give a crap about, just sayin'.
Why Pitching Your Songs To Publishers Doesn't Work (Do This Instead!) ua-cam.com/video/GHGhV2d206Q/v-deo.html
Great video Clay & Marty, Super great advice. You 2 are the best !!!!
Love hearing that. We’re glad it’s helpful to ya!
You're right guys, this is applicable to any endeavor in life. We have to take responsibility for our own failures and our own success. Failure gives us the opportunity to grow and boy, there's nothing sweeter than tasting the success we built ourselves. Fantastic reminder!
Yes! I’ve learned was more from my failures! Write on Katy! -CM
Great perspectives thx!
You’re welcome. Write on! -CM
such great advise, and the argument about how to redirect those feelings of frustration in to music and create something positive from it, and that may help to move someone in deep ways, not by being angry but just by , well, being positive. There is probably no better medium than music that can turn negative emotions into positive ones.
Yes!
Great message, love it 💪
Write on!
Thanks guys 🌴🎶💪
Write on Jimmy!
Thank you 🙏
Thank you for watching. Write on!
Submitted songs to a publisher back in 1976. He being myopic said, 'It's not Kris Kristofferson' 🤣 FOOL. Have been self-published ever since.
that example Marty mentioned about the guy who was holding onto those ten songs so defiantly tells me how much emotional investment we can put into our songs, which may be a great subject in how it can not only help us but also hinder us from being creative.P.S. I've got a habit of commenting directly after a point has been made without waiting to see if it gets addressed at some point further on. So please excuse my impulsivity, though I will leave my comment but just to let you know. (there's a self mocking/knowing wry smile on my face as I write)
Glad to have you here! Yes, holding on too tightly can cause us to lose the things we are clutching to. Write on! ~CM
As a guy, if you ever walk into a room with a beautiful woman, no one is looking at you, when they are looking toward you - they are looking at her. If you walk into the room alone, chances are, no one is looking at you. As a songwriter, if I walk into a room with a great song, no one is looking at me, they are looking at that song, because its not about me, its about the song.
If I want to be noticed, I'd better walk into the room with a great song. So I work hard towards walking into the room with a great song and not asking to get invited into that room without one. If you want to get noticed in the room, its about the girl...uh, I mean the song...
Write on!
You have to push,,,rule number one,,,
#truth
yes, publishers aren't gonna write the songs for you. and blaming others for your own failures is a recipe for further failures.
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Here is a future topic to discuss. This is a true story. As a lifelong songwriter with several cuts, I find this story to be sad and shocking and worthy of sharing. I wrote a song with two other well-known and established songwriters in Nashville. The song was eventually pitched to an independent artist who recorded it on his own dime. The independent artist contacted me to tell me he was cutting my song and wanted my publisher's information.
Then,
He tells me he took it upon himself to rewrite one of the verses. (It seems he didn't like our original). He also said that he was listing himself as one of the writers. I laughed and said, you're joking? He assured me he was serious. I replied, "So, why not write a new verse to "Yesterday" and claim you're also a co-writer. He hung up on me. He eventually released the song and then uploaded his information to ASCAP, and ASCAP has listed this guy as one of the writers. I sent an email to ASCAP, and they have yet to reply. ASCAP has the original listing of the song with the three original writers. They also have this newly uploaded listing with this guy as the 4th writer.
So, here is a question for you songwriters. If you pitched a song to an independent artist without your knowledge, they rewrote the verse, would you accept this practice? and if the song did in fact get famous over social media? What are your thoughts?
Man that really sucks. Legally someone needs permission of the original copyright owners to change a copyright. But people will try anything. So then, is it worth it to take legal action? I have a friend that wrote a big Elvis song. A new artist cut it an added a new bridge and wanted credit. My friend had to fight to keep them off the copyright, but won. Hate that that happened to you. ~CM
@@SongTownUSA The ignorance of people is shocking. The nerve of this behavior is mind blowing. In your example, the fact that your friend had to go to court to keep this other writer off the copyright is unreal. Perhaps, you should do a segment on this and educate the people that are tuning in. Thanks for writing back.
@@jonmichaels3113 Let us know when ASCAP replies. Interested in hearing their reply..Make sure they know the artist had no permission to change the copyright. Oh, and did one of your co-writers or publisher okay the new version?
Folks... the old business model of Music Publishers and Record Labels developing songwriters and artists has been over for a very long time...writers and artists gotta' get traction on their own by writing great songs that people will give a crap about, just sayin'.
yeah, There are still good publishers that can help your career, but what's the saying...publishers help those who help themselves ..lol
Only a life raft will save you,,,