Investigation Finds Employee’s Harassment Claims Against LTT “Were False”
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That wasn’t a threat lmao. It’s a natural progression of events. If someone raises claims against a company and those allegations are found to be false the natural next step is to proceed with a defamation lawsuit. That they specifically went out of their way to assure that they did not intend to follow through with a defamation lawsuit shows a great deal of mercy.
It's not mercy to realize the cost of litigation would massively outweigh the practical gain of a successful suit. Court of public opinion would change very little and she definitely doesn't have the money to effectively compensate.
That is why they are not suing . They just mentioned if she wanted to defame them more then they might sue .
It was a threat. And if you believe otherwise, I have a bridge to sell you.
It's stupid that people think she has the right to do all this stuff, but she should be protected from consequence. That's why fake victims keep happening, there is no recourse for false allegations. I TRULY hope LMG files defamation, as a matter of precedent.
@@adilhameed7607 As they absolutely should. She should face repercussions. Accusers shouldn't get away with lying and hurting lives.
People on the internet often like to forget the fact that bad employees can exist. Same with employees who take advantage.
Employees? You mean people. She is bad people.
At least 70% of young people fit this bill!
@@werewolflover8636I mean people in general just suck, but this is a severely boomer take
@@werewolflover8636as gen z, I found this funny and unfunny at the same time
just by stats and demography, there's a hell ton more bad employees than employers.
I know, I've worked with those, from snowflakes, crazy, and plain lazy. We call them the Salary Thiefs.
That money should go to someone better.
"who thought it was a good idea to threaten a broke, immature girl with a defamation lawsuit" well maybe the broke immature girl should've thought about that before making shit up. Who would've thought defaming someone would earn you a difamation lawsuit.
Bro, imagine having that woke, loser take on an innocent person being accused of something this big.
They should sue her just for the injustice of it all.
Exactly, and as with every case like this. It only hurts real victims when people make this stuff up. She knows what she did.
Just because it's hard to prove doesn't mean it didn't happen.
@@SynthiaVanan independent investigation by a third party did months of investigation… a law firm that has the legal duty to report their findings. She over exaggerating so she could get more views for her stream.
She is more than just some nobody broke girl, she has a sizeable following and reputation and the things she says has an impact on others.
I don't follow LTT closely however I think having an external independent investigation that was quite detailed and specific is a good example of how to deal with these kinds of issues.
It is refreshing to see this type of situation handled with appropriately, as opposed to “she is a liar only looking for fame, and I am the real victim”.
@@alexanderrobins7497 yeah it's important to do properly and I think it should be properly reported on by news channel who covered the initial story. The LTT team seem to have done an excellent job and should be an example of what to do in these kinds of situations.
Wonder how much it costs though
@@user-lp2op9uu1w I suspect it wouldn't cost any more than it would if you had to go through a legal fight with employment lawyers. Ultimately you're going to end up doing a similar job to what an external firm would do anyway in the event you have this kind of problem/allegation but if you have an external firm do the review to start with it could offset a lot of that cost or prevent it becoming a legal battle.
So external they paid for it out if their own pocket…
I hope this part gets just as much attention as the original unfounded allegations
I hope this gets even more attention, because the damage done was massive.
It honestly really pissed me off how all the simps immediately took her side and believed everything she said.
As someone who dealt with a toxic gf for 4 years. I saw right through her. And it annoyed me so much.
Just randomly got recommended this today -- it did NOT get any attention and noone when googling this has covered it. This is why I hate the news and internet, zero people do followups... unless its really bad for someone.
@@joerad4722 same lol randomly seeing this on my feed, and yepp this didnt get the same amount of attention
@@joerad4722 well yeah i mean what do you want world wide news coverage, i am sure the people in Alaska care.
When the news first came out everybody was on the girl's side. I had an argument with my fellow PhD colleague who was also on her side. I was like you don't even know the whole story and something doesn't add up. Now look who's the clown. Most people lack the ability to analyze critically and believe whatever they are told. And yes she should absolutely absolutely be penalized and at least taught a lesson - that deframing someone is not without a consequence, and that if you can be legally accused you are not innocent.
That's... concerning. You'd think someone with a history involving a PhD would be very accustomed to critical analysis of information.
This is not something where you can be for one side or the other. You simply don't have enough meaningful information.
She's a modern woman, she's incapable of learning responsibility, and in all likelihood just use any defamation suit against her as "proof" that she's the victim.
@@netneo4038 Considering that you have people with PhD's running around claiming that mutilating a child's genitals changes their gender, it's entirely predictable.
Please reread the last part of your statement. According to your statement, everybody that gets accused of something is guilty. So, why do we need courts?
Ltt should have sued for defamation. Tbh shes more ignorant and idiotic than immature and releasing a statement just puts in place boundaries that any defamatory statements against ltt will not be tolerated. Anyone having a problem with boundaries need to refreshed and or educated.
100%
especially when her tweets are all still up
The girl who got a free 5k pc and a job claimed this 🤦♂️
If U throw sht at someone, best be sure that if they throw it back at you, you take it like a champ. If you blame someone for something don't be hesitant to face the consequences if you're wrong
She needs to take tips from Megan Hall, who was caught lying and misappropriating work time, but definitely took it like a champ.
Plain and simple, not sure how one could have a contrasting view. All these women and their false accusations
Great, one more clout chaser ruining it for actual victims.
This is literally the only other channel covering the investigations, and it's no more than 3 and a half minutes.
of course it's perfectly fine to mention the defamation, not only does it warn the individual about the consequences of causing more damage (than what she already has done) unless she wants to go to court over it (vs straight up taking her to court without any warning instead)...but it also benefits the community (and themselves) by deterring people from making up or misrepresenting claims for clout and simply thinking that there's no consequences for it and "why not try?"
But the female accuser could never possibly be the bad guy. /s
Bring back the 18 minutes of black screen and silence
Ong bro...
They stole our soul with that 18 min we need it back
The number of people that jumped on LTT over this without knowing any facts, only allegations. I'm surprised this wasn't a Nancy Grace special.
thats how it works sadly, thats why so many people raise false claims, they know they can do damage to the people/company, before they are found not guilty and maybe even get some money out of it.
When I first heard it happen, during the gamer nexus debacle, I was immediately a little skeptical.
It seemed very opportunistic to hit LTT while they were down.
It’s actually quite suspicious how many people tried to cancel LTT all at once
Because basically nobody claims this publicly without it being true.
This follows people, and people know that, and don't want to risk that. Madison knows this too.
How would her claims even be substantiated? A written email of harassment? Yeah, basically never happens at any workplace ever -- unless theirs video 24/7 of all employees and good audio.
@@1337GameDev??? Wrong? Plenty of people would take the opportunity to damage a person or group with false accusations publicly. Do you live on Mars?
Madison was always immature and flakey. That's why people wanted Linus to give her a job. They thought a flakey person would be fun to see around him.
This case is an insult to the millions of harassment victims worldwide who can't even muster the courage to stand up for themselves. Pathetic liars such as these are the reason why real victims are hesitant to come forward.
Great take
The only thing making real victims hesitant to come forward is the insane difficulty in proving their word and vague threats of SLAP suits like on the statement covered here.
She was never scared of Linus to begin with. She tweeted about workplace harassment immediately after leaving. I remembered it from earlier, and was surprised when people started defending her by claiming that she was too scared to open up until Steve tore LTT a new one..
No, she merely took advantage of the elephant in the mud. And all she achieved was to completely sideline the actual victim: Billet Labs.
I get where your coming from but she clearly has other issues going on as cutting oneself is not a sign of work problems it's a sign of mental health problems. Hopefully she getting the help she needs and learns from this mess she created.
I think it’s a very generous warning. If that girl wants to ruin her life, they can oblige. They totally didn’t have to do this, could’ve straight up sued and made an example out of her.
They could have made no statement at all. It could have been not public until "Hey, guess what, we sued Madison for everything she has, and now she can't even afford to stream anymore."
My life was ruined (registered, etc.) over lies like this. I'm disappointed to see mercy.
@@kagesong Disappointed to see mercy? My man, this wasn't about you.
@@gachibassunlimited3930 everybody wants the world to be more fair one way or the other
Defamation should be mentioned for a corporate entity like LMG. Otherwise they are opening themselves up for round after round of opportunists.
It was so obvious she was lying. Her allegations were way out there. She went too far. She caked it on too much. Yeah fake fake fake. I hate this women like this should be put in jail
The parts of the allegations I as a viewer could verify were taken wildly out of proportions. Like for example the company OF account. Yes, she set it up, but there wasn't a single photo on that OF page that was anything more than suggestive, and most of it was within the boundaries of what you'll find on their UA-cam and Merch Store. It was a joke, and in my opinion, it was not taken too far.
Those people saying there isn't grounds for a defamation law suits are probably not lawyers and have no clue what they are talking about
YOU'RE KIDDING?!?!?!?!
The saddest thing about this is that no one who dragged LTT through the dirt back then seems willing to apologize, or even acknowledge that they turned out innocent. Everyone is always willing to point fingers and condemn others but by the time the actual investigation is finished they’ve all conveniently forgotten about the situation and moved on to other bits of drama.
Just wait
Guilty until proven guilty. Especially when accused by a woman.
Hey if she lied they are well within the right to sue
I do believe the mention of the lawsuit as a “reminder of consequences” was definitely fair, I do think they should’ve really hammered down that they are not pursuing the lawsuit. I say this because that’s such a big thing to mention and it obviously overshadowed that they said they weren’t going through with it
I think they should file the suit. As a matter of principle and precedent.
@Nobodycares392 One they would absolutely win two even if she defaults which she won't because she's not broke has a following that gives her income as a matter of principal and precedent to say that people cannot fake being a victim without consequence we need to set precedent that says you cannot victimize others by pretending to be a victim yourself I think that pretending to say that someone did something illegal to you and it being found untrue should lead to jail time if not actual prison I think that these people should be met with the consequences that they are trying to falsely lay on to other people
@Nobodycares392 Yes she has a wage that can and should be garnished by a lawsuit that's how that works
@Nobodycares392if the allegations are actually false she deserves to be held accountable tho lol
@Nobodycares392 I mean, emotional damage is the price to pay in my experience with the law. As for his image, I think anyone that would look at him sideways is already on the other side of that fence.
And then there's Activision Blizzard with there own investigation....(If you didn't know the investigation team they hired were either their own or it was strongly connected to them).
Linus is too much of a square to be nefarious.
I agree, the only sexual misconduct being done in LTT is sexual assault to nvidia graphics cards.
@@th5160
🤣🤣🤣
To be fair some of his staff I can see being absolute creeps though. Anthony comes to mind.
@@wahhnopfp transphobic muich? anthony seems nice, james seems alot more creepy
@@jeremytinecalling someone creepy is not transphobic, unless you’re referring to the deadnaming which should be overlooked cause it’s not like it was a big announcement or anything on the main channel and I bet most people don’t care enough to know Emily transitioned.
If she broke the law, they should have made an example of her.
this is the longest 3 minute video i have seen in a long time ;)
It honestly really pissed me off how all the simps immediately took her side and believed everything she said.
As someone who dealt with a toxic gf for 4 years. I saw right through her. And it annoyed me so much.
Those eyes, that look. It gives me ptsd of my now ex gf. 😂😂
I knew she was full of it.
Man this is sad. Madison's first video with Linus was so much fun.
As far I'm concerned, ppl are made of wet paper and forget consequences exist. That "immature girl" cost linus hundreds of thousands of subscribers, tens of thousands in legal fees, and a forever marred reputation that will absolutely have lasting negative effects on their subsequent income. She almost destroyed not only linus, but so many of his employees that got tied into the story as well.
She should alrdy be held accountable period for the false sexual harassment claims. Linus is being gods gift by not making her dig her own grave as we speak.
I hold Linus and LMG in an even higher standard than before, for one, through this. They have not only remained respectful beyond what most people would ever be, but call for respect and mercy from their community (a call I will ignore for very personal reasons that I have to fight).
@kagesong I 100% agree but too many ppl see allegations and assume guilt no matter what.
@@gamer8622 Including the courts, at least in the US, sadly.
Gonna hold my hands up here, saw what was said, immediately unsubbed and haven’t watched Linus said, what a knee jerk reaction that was…..
Stating that you have sufficient evidence for a strong defamation case isn't a threat, it's just another way of demonstrating how conclusive the investigation was. You don't say that if you're not confident there was no wrongdoing. It is weird that the same people who earlier would (rightly) demand full transparency in the investigation, now want them to quietly sit on part of their findings.
Real ones know this is a reupload
Always remember that if you play stupid games...
Sounds alot like she was asked to actually do her job and she didn't like that. So she chose to make up a heap of crap
The threat was deserved. She did harm the reputation and possibly lost the LTT channel money and loyal followers.
LTT shill much ??? Why you are defending big company ???
I'm not a Loyal followers I kept following linus lol. It's a big company there are going to be some scum bags in there.
plain jane went for million dollar lawsuit now she has to deal with her infamy for the rest of her life.
And people are freaking defending her. It's sick.
LTT handled this awesomely by having an external source conduct an in-depth investigation over this. Well played.
"Who thought it was a good idea to threaten a broke, immature girl with a defamation lawsuit..." It wasn't a threat. It was just a statement saying that they do have a substantial amount of evidence to build a defamation case with. Maybe that broke, immature girl shouldn't have made an outright false statement against a multi-million dollar company and its employees. Just because she's broke and immature, doesn't excuse her from any sort of consequence for her ill-intentioned actions.
Just a reminder that actions have consequences. Should be a wake up call for her. Unfortunately now if she ever has a legitimate complaint against a future employer this isn't going to help her.
Actions should have consequences. Whether you are a famous rich UA-cam millionaire or a broke misguided girl. I think LTT should have sued Madison. Out of principle. They are being too Canadian here by not suing. Broke immature girls need to learn than their actions have consequences too
All for clout. The defamation Suit is Justified. these days people think they can say or do anything to a big name company and think nothing will happen. They need to be reminded that their actions bear consequences. Who thinks otherwise? Comment below. Let's hear your take
LMG is definitely carry on the defamation lawsuit.
The whole thing was bogus and honestly in my view GN wanted views. He didn't have to cover the LTT stuff and on top of that who made him the journalist police? I don't watch his channel at all; I watch LTT and Jayztwocents for my tech updates. The employee basically set a firestorm and got burned by it. Maybe next time she will think twice before doing that at her next job.
This 304 needs to be charged and thrown in jail.
The defamation "threat" was more so "don't do this again or we'll sue you" - a warning if you will.
False claims should be addressed and dealt with. If they want to sue her, good!
thats a defamation. several youtubers made videos surrounding this and criticizing LTT over false allegations. he needs the defamation law suit so that she cant get away with her deceit
No it's not! Defamation is when you lie, while knowing you are lying and with intent to cause harm. 1) the statement didn't disprove many of her claims 2) those that it did could be legitimate misunderstandings, miscommunications and misremembering of those experiences.
@@TealJosh thats defamation. she wasnt sexually harassed. shes lying about to everyone to cause harm and damage and she is full well aware of it. he lost lots of fans from that and many people made criticizing videos of him. everyone can clearly see that she is a liar. in her statement, she said that she had to move many countries and "give up her visa" just a lot more lies to pander to her toxic liberal audience. we know shes that sort to be involved in that toxic BDS tactic used only by unhinged liberals. its a big lie. everything she says is a lie intending to harm people
@@TealJosh did you even watch the video? The third-party investigation destroyed her claims. You don't just "misremember" the whole situation when filing for workplace harassment.
@@RogatkaWR I have seen the allegations from the original source and I have seen the ACTUAL report on LTT reddit.
"You don't just 'misremember' the whole situation when filing for workplace harassment" - well, has workplace harassment claim been filed? And no, not doing is not evidence that it didn't happen. Grand majority of victims of abuse don't report it to appropriate authorities. Including ME.
@@TealJosh a defamation suit is about a person spreading lies that can damage the brand. and she could have completely destroyed ltt. that is the very definition of defimation.
I feel that LMG bringing up the defamation suit was basically a “We’re assessing the situation”. They’re not planning to at the moment, but it’s not completely off the table either.
I think they should go for it. Too many people these days don’t seem to understand that there are consequences for making false accusations. Largely, because society has taught them that, but there needs to be a point where consequences begin.
Yeah No… Telling the public that the investigation not only proved no wrong doing on LMG’s part, but that their independent investigation showed possible malicious intent by the former employee, who may have even been attempting to extort a settlement out of LMG if they felt the need to clarify the extent in which this entire thing was fabricated… It sure feels like people feel comfort attempting to extort settlements out of companies and public personalities… I personally think that knowing the distinction between the lack of evidence for harassment, and intentionally fabricating that harassment, sorry that’s a very important distinction!
My question is how much did LMG "paid" Roper Greyell a large VANCOUVER-based law firm, to conduct this investigation?
So, she lied and built her following on it... they should sue her for lampooning their reputation
We had an ex employee threaten us with a lawsuit because the office we set up for her to take photos in didn't have it's own AC and she liked to close the door to make a darker space to take the photos. Like babe, just open the door. She also tried the sexual harassment thing and it really didn't make sense. The worst part was having to hire lawyers to confirm for us that it didn't make sense. Maybe that was her intent, idk.
"Like babe" is this some type of self report?
@@subzerosanijs No it's not lmao. I work at a job that deals with these types of people often. They're delusional and overreact to petty issues. The issue here is that social media has made these people think that their grievances have merit when in reality they're just massive cry babies.
Anyone saying 'like babe' sounds like the sort of person who has a sexual harrassment lawsuit coming for them eventually
@TyQuinn My guy. Saying that on the internet vs saying that to the person's face are two entirely different things.
You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. It's people like you who make stories like this a reality.
@@TyQuinnSo… half of all teenage girls have a lawsuit coming?
It really makes me curious how investigations like this is even conducted. Just bc I feel like everything would be spoken by word and not documented. Probably didn't have video evidence or if they did thats still thousands of hours of stuff to look through. It really makes me wonder how the whole process is conducted to actually see if it was legit or not.
"Probably didn't have video evidence or if they did thats still thousands of hours of stuff to look through." You are correct, which is why it took so long, and why any good system, software or not, has an audit trail. Though with the digital era it made it a lot more simple as every message, email, account access is logged and stored. Though the second, video and in person calls are often a way to get around everything being tracked. The best way to address this is, A record your video calls if you can, or B send a follow up email summarizing the call/chat (aka create the paper trail yourself). Even if its something that isn't something that you can send to someone else like harassment, keep a detailed log of who, what, when, where, etc.
You look through all the cctv footage, look through any records of complaints, interview employees to see if there's any stories of rumors and if they match. It takes a long ass time.
People forget that LTT essentially onboarded her because the community WANTED them to. At the time everyone had "Maddy fever" with her edgy humor being used against Linus in the build video. So messy, such a shame. Couldn't temper her chaotic nature properly, so not surprised it blew up this bad.
I knew Maddison was a red flag employee when I saw they hired her. The way she was behaving in Asus's video clearly showed she is not fit to be an employee.
This is why ninja from fortnite Don't work with woman
I think she should be sued. If these findings are true, then the damage she caused should be considered. This will make future claims to be seriously considered if they arn't true, if you know you might get sued in reverse if the claims are false. False claims are just as harmful as if the Harassment had happened. Only, instead of it affecting one victim, it now affects an entire company (of innocent people). These kind of claims are not a zero sum benefit to the claimant. People need to start getting in trouble for the actions they do if it was done with false pretext.
Even when the "victim" turns out to be the one who acted in bad faith, there are always people who try to defend them. I think its fine for LMG to mention that they could launch a defamation suit, but are willing to be decent about it and not pursue one.
False allegations should have serious consequences, because the harm they can cause can be just as irreparable as any trauma an actual victim may experience.
Mentioning defamation as a suit is absolutely justified. She made claims of SA, bullying and other extremely serious crimes and the findings were that she either lied or exaggerated, and that all issues were addressed. In all likelihood (as long as findings were accurate) she did this on purpose. So having the counter play of a lawsuit is extremely justified. If you lie, better make sure you can’t get sued.
if you cause trouble and suddenly get backlash dont complain about it
All Im seeing from those folks is "No, we shouldn't be reminded that in the real world, our actions have consequences! Thats unfair!"
One of the biggest problems with our current generation: people being unable to take responsibility for their behavior.
It's good to not listen to anyone in twitter. Just brainrot of a website
Especially people with blue check marks next to their name. The people who actually pay Twitter to have their tweets amplified are the worst of the worst.
I had a bad feeling about her the first time she cropped up on that PC build vid.
I tried warning them years ago, via their forums, that their internal political leanings would only lead them to trouble.
They went woke anyways. A shame.
I unsubscribed from LMG over the whole thing after it all went down, not because of the allegations, but because of how they responded to them at the time. Releasing a "serious" video that made light of the situation, forcing jokes during the video was in poor taste that should have been handled differently.
The fact linus did an apology video to something that didn't even exist? Linus will always be top dog
The apology video did not includean apology this incident. They simply acknowledged the situation and hired an external company to investigate for potential issues of such nature.
The apology was for members of their team trying to claim superior data accuracy compared to other news outlets, specifically calling out GN (even if they didn't intend it to come out like that) when they've made their fair share of mistakes. GN fired back, and that's where the controversy started. Also selling/auctioning that prototype waterblock.
The whole thing unveiled a bunch of unprofessional practices in their workflow, to which they apologized and took a week off to improve their workflow and add more consistent workflow steps to try and prevent errors like these from occurring again.
Dude the threat is very founded hahaha that f did she expected to happen
So was she just mental?
The people complaining about the defamation part are the same type of people who rushes to consider the alledged offender to be guilty until proven innocent. However, when the tables turn, we should have respect and understanding for this poor woman who is just a victim of her own immaturity.
People that were upset that they mentioned a defamation suit are part of the problem. First that they could get upset by such a simple comment, which is probably what happened to Madison and then you can add that people need to watch what they do. I know it s a big company now but its something that Linus, his family, and the long term employees have put A LOT of time into just to be shot down by some childish person... They have a right to be pissed about what they went through.
Wtf .. this is the 3rd version of the same video now in the last 10 mins 🤔 Am I tripping or did anyone else notice this? Shyt .. I might have smoked too much
Personally, I would have been straight to the lawyers office and straight to the courtroom. I think the fact that they mentioned that they could have but aren't currently planning on suing her for defamation is more than fair, especially as they've already got the evidence to use in such a case.
Definitely should have a defamation suit. It doesn't matter here if she's broke or rich. It's not about the message, but to show actions have consequences. She was probably never held accountable or took responsibility for anything.
Wish they would went in with the defamation lawsuit. I know people that had been abused. That had been harassed sexually. Its not funny. Not something to get hype on. Its shamefull its a crime. If it was a false claim indeed she NEEDS to be punished for it.
I would sue this chick for EVERY SINGLE CENT she has.
Sorry, but consequences for criminality should ABSOLUTELY be the over riding consideration here. If every 20 year old worker can get away with blatant lies that hurt a companies ability to exist, and therefore threatening the livelihoods of all employees, then that person should basically have to give up their future, too.
And then get ready for every under 25 employee (just to be safe) to be considered un-employable because NO company will want that liability.
Want to play childish games as an adult then PAY THE PRICE!
100%
Played the victim card, and failed. Smh.
Madison is just mad the audience didn't like her.
Alot of
Simps liked her. I thought she was annoying.
Not to defend LMG but a few people who work for a companies and who were later laid off or fired for whatever reason would actually say bad things about that company even though it's not true simply because they are angry for being laid off or fired. We are all human, and nature tend to be petty when it comes to these things. This is why we have defamation laws.
The independent investigation is only as good as the information and corroboration LMG provided them. Much of what Madison mentioned was stuff that occurred in the background behind closed doors, and from people she worked with or worked under. And what company committing such acts would accurately log them for third parties to find? "Hey today Mike the manager asked Madison 'how do you like to be fucked?' and Madison never brought it up so we did everything right". These things by their nature are very hard to prove, think back to bullying in school, if a kid called you a slur and said he was gonna beat you up when you were out on the playground away from others, there is no way for you to magically prove that to your teacher, all you can do is tell and hope the teacher catches it the next time, but if you keep reporting this over and over again, and the kid keeps on his best behavior, now suddenly you get meetings and sit downs. Its very easy to believe that she may have reported stuff early on, didn't have enough evidence, and that LMG investigated those things as best as they could, but couldn't find evidence, so they had to move on, and this could have a very negative effect on Madison reporting things even though LMG did everything right.
LMG could have done everything right by the legal or corporate standards, and these things could arise, anyone who's ever worked for a major company has seen shit like this happen.
Note that the report said the claims were "unsubstantiated" as in they had no paper trail or evidence, that does not mean the same thing as "false" or "lies". They did say that they made errors in the on boarding process which Madison also stated, so she's vindicated in that regard. People are laser focused on a few of the things she stated and acting like that was all she said, she talked about inappropriate comments from some workers about her sex life, she also mentioned people calling her work shit, or talking down to her when she asked for help with the workload of managing their social media, and meetings after she reported poor behavior where they asked her questions that seemed threatening, and that the workload itself was just too much, which is believable for their size and publishing cadence.
I don't think Madison Suop was out to get something, or make something up by making false claims, they confirmed there were problems with how she was onboarded, she left LMG very abruptly and has been doing her own thing quietly for a long time now, nor did she pursue any legal action against LMG. She also mentioned that it was a dream job, and that there were fantastic people at LMG. I don't see the evidence of someone making shit up for personal gain, she didn't gain anything by divulging this stuff, I don't think that what she said was 100% what happened and exactly how LMG meant to behave, I think its how she perceived it, and how the system they had handled things. Its a big company, I'm sure they have assholes and creeps, and no matter how good of a system you have, people like that can skirt by responsibility.
Record every interaction with female coworkers if your state allows it without notifying other parties, stick to business and niceties. Always keep the door open to your office. Gonna anger some of the usual suspects in the comments, but I don’t care. 😉
its really sad that this had to be a take away from the metoo thing.
There's a lot of unfortunate truth to what you're saying. Granted it's not all (or even most women) who act like this. It's only a particular subset of people who behave like this.
They should’ve sued her.
everyone carefully wording their responses and comments. Bottomline is that Madison lied. LMG/LTT should sue her.
People should stop taking stances until any allegations are proven... many people make false allegations nowadays taking advantage of internet rage.
At this point Harassment both regular and sexual are getting pass the point where its going backwards and ruining the true victims of it
A law that is long overdue. Bringing a false accusation against someone, group or business, the person should get the exact penalty that would have been placed on the accused. How many peoples lives have been ruined by others making false claims.
That chick was always crazy
LMG should sue ... period. Just strengthens their position and shows even further that the claims by Maddison were false.
Nah all the investigation did was absolve them of any legal recourse; like "you can't prove any of it, so you can't sue us!" Emily (Anthony) still liked tweets talking about some of the stuff Madison said that went on there, and she just quit LMG last night.
Defamation is completely reasonable if your entire life is on the line over some bs
I'm registered, because I was molested by a female, to keep that brief. Defamation should be the bare minimum consequence.
I started here at the beginning of the UA-cam timeline, and made it all the way around to the beginning again.
I discovered that UA-cam must be a sphere.
nuh-uh, it's flat.
Could have told you all this from day 1. Oh wait, I did. lol.
She was clearly making sh*t up from the get-go and trying to dogpile.
Defamation is defamation, if she can make up lies and potentially make a business collapse then she can get her life ruined by the legal system, simple as that I'm afraid.
So Madison tried to be an amber heard and me-too LTT. Probably cuz she’s a woke millennial with no accountability.
I agree that they should have released the findings without comment. Even hiring a law firm to do the investigation is pushing it. Lawyers are perceived to be advocates for their client (the paying customer) . It's very easy to see a conflict of interest in this situation. This isn't exactly a PR slam dunk, even without the passive-aggressive comment.
see that's where your wrong, if they didn't hire a 3rd party they could just pull a "we investigated ourselves and found no wrong" 3rd party keeps them liable, most people iv talked to knew that's what it was for
@@thenombinary9099 They still should have kept their mouths shut; and a law firm, specifically, is still a dodgy choice. It sounds just as gaslighty to say, "The law firm we hired says we might have a case for liable. But, unlike our former employee, we're not going to make a big deal out of it!"
The third party investigation and dealing with this costs money. They should pass the bill to the person defaming
It's their decision what they do with it. I personally would've sued her in return regardless of what some simps would be thinking of me. But then again I don't run such a business and it's not my choice to make.
At the time, the mistakes and time crunches were believable. The harassment was surprising.
People today are just moronic children... Don't threaten her with a lawsuit? After she lied about everything, that could have ruined the company and many people's lives? They should 100% go after her for defamation, there's a growing trend of people lying for clout and money and when it comes out as false nothing happens to them. That's why it'll continue, there is no risk to lying.
Yeah, how dare they threaten a lawsuit against a woman who blatantly lied about extremely serious allegations that could have caused substantial financial damage to the company. What were they thinking....
It's such a shame to see people want to defend themselves, or take fair repercussions against, women that tell lies. Don't we know that women get to say whatever they want because they're weak and frail?
Sue her.
what about the cost, these investigation are not cheap so does the person making these faults reports get away scot free?
I love that people are just believing that LTT isn't possibly lying they tweeted it not the third party that investigated