What is Incelcore? (Gen Z Grunge)
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- You've probably never heard of it, but Incelcore is probably the most original thing concerning music in the 2020s. Is it just a sh*tpost? Or is there more to this style? I do not make any money from this channel, so donations are appreciated. ko-fi.com/whatsinameme
Songs Used: Life is an RPG and I F*cked up my Build by Negative XP. Dead by 30 (Feat UhOhSlater) and Numbers on Screen Go up by Fried by Fluoride. Please be Patient I Have Autism, Internet Buzzwords, and Defect by NEET. Blowing My F*cking Head Off and Blackpilled Again by UhOhSlater. I Don't Speak to Wh*res, Video Game Abortion, and Loser by Gezebelle Gaburgably. Debaser by Pixies. Stop Talking by Hard Christ. Clown World by Cyborg9K. Kurt Cobain Says I Don't Have A God in Come As You Are Because The Song Is About Selling Your Soul, Barbaric Weapon, Hard Headed Woman (Elvis Cover), Calender Girl (Neil Sedaka Cover), 1965 (Bowling For Soup Cover/Parody) Scott Pilgrim Vs The World Ruined An Entire Generation of Women, Kyle, Negative XP, and Go Flex (Post Malone Cover) ALL by Negative XP.
Thanks
te amo
Did you get demonetized for that?
@@growmiezhomiez8760 Never was monetized to begin with
@@shitai_6040 lo amamos
They all sound closer to Weezer and mid-late 90s pop punk than Nirvana.
Yeah but it sounds like all the bands that nirvana ripped off. Dinosaur jr, flipper, the pixies.
Right? I was about to say, no WAY Pinkerton isn't the definition of Incelcore
Maybe some of it resembles Pinkerton in terms of the Weezer influence. But hell some of the incelcore songs sound damn near like it came right off bleach. Pop punk is literally defined by its pop sensitivities which incelcore has none of. Grating lyrics, Grating vocals, chaotic noisy guitar. Lacking any real melody and representing of a group of generally outcasted losers with superiority complexes. Sounds almost exactly like grunge to me.
@@joshuacyrus8812 that is the most brutally honest take on grunge I’ve ever heard 😂
I couldnt help but think of Choking Victim/ leftover crack when hearing the clips in this.
A very interesting genre that seems to be equal parts: “Edgy Shitpost from Chronically online people” and “Expression of the genuine desires of a generation.”
isnt the whole fuckin generation chronically online now
@@toddberkely6791 you don't say
Yet they still pick up their instruments and express themselves. Music is a healthy outlet even if you're lyrics are about being depressed.
you forgot the similarity to black metal of everyone being a virgin
Lmao
Below the belt
Bruh...i mean black metal does have a fair dose of negativity and even autism, but at least there are some great bands with thought provoking lyrics."Incelcore" is just crap through and through
@@user-dl1iz1vo2m theyre the same except one is on r/satanism and one is on r/atheism
@@AdolfStalin it's not like they'll need it 💀
When I saw the title, I misread it as “Intelcore” and thought it was about building computer or smth
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some song about building a PC by one of these artists to be fair.
So did I. Thought it was the genre for people who just make music on the computer and can't actually play.
same
Incel Inside™
I hope thats a thing lmao
This “new genre” sounds exactly like every random handful of bands playing literally any college town basement show since the 80s
Basically yeah
But it resonates more brainrot
Cause 80s had less brainrot
It’s sounds like the cliched and tired versions of that stuff
Incelcore is the voice of a generation, thanks for giving it a fair shake. As corny as it sounds incelcore speaks to my soul.
Facts
it really does. us young 20 something men are more connected than we think
It is truth, it points out the flaws in our society blatantly and the utter collapse of the American dream. literally, everyone who hates this genre every day, dark and twisted nepotistic self-righteous hypocrites poisoned by goyslop and attacks and snuff out anything that doesn't conform to a corrupt form of morals ''''they''' have and doesn't have a corporate jewishFatCat stamp of approval. it's the only thing this lost generation has that speaks to us on a deep level people like you are trying to take that away...
@@yeeyee52yall 20 something men
millenial boomer chiming in. speaks to me, too :^)
ah yes. weezer.
Weezer is millennial grunge
Failednormiecore
@@Journey_Awaitsindustryplantcore
@@GabrielGabeRodriguezbut still incelcore
@@GabrielGabeRodriguez[insert weezer riff]
I was never talented or edgy enough to call myself a part of the wave back in 2019-2020, but just being distantly aligned while those dudes were making these songs was fucking awesome. Everyone at that time KNEW this was something entirely new and real, and I’ll always look back with a smile.
Your shits pretty good man keep practicing at the very least if you did a song a week about a hour a day you would rise soon enough just trust in the process. Took nxp years to pop up in mainstream
Do you think 2019 and 2020 are a long time ago? lol.
Kinda feels like it no?
I was part of that scene too but I was listening to gloomier, post-punk influenced wave of Russian garage music around 2020, I was the only one who was listening to something like that and could not find a way to communicate it to others, how the new music was the expression of our generation - , gen z desires
you're exactly spot on. the genre explore the generational apathy. we can see the problems in society, but at the same time we're powerless and we dont care anymore.
I hate being 24 because I get the worst of both being a millennial and a zoomer
@k try being 30
@@__k9So relatable.
every generation since jesus was a kid says this
@@agentsmith110111 thats cap how tf can boomers especially say that when they were young around the time where they could buy and house and a car with a minimum wage job
I found the "Grunge could only dream of this level of cynicism" part very profound. It's like this anger has been building and building for years and then you finally explode and begin thrashing and lashing out only to find you have nothing to hit, that even at your most strong willed and passionate, there's nothing. So you stop, sink, and finally give in for any sense of feeling agency, only to still feel nothing. Fighting does nothing. Participating does nothing.
Whereas grunge could eek some sense of meaning out of the solidarity of apathy, we're long past that and the novelty of admitting everything is hopeless isn't shocking or motivating, it's just met with "...and?"
I want to say your worldview can't get more cynical than this, but I know for a fact that I'd be putting my foot in my mouth in only like 5 years.
I just think that it's way more melodic and fun than any other music coming out right now.
Unironically yes
this is just objectively false
@@jeremywaygay idk to me it seems there rise in shoegaze, skramz, and lo fi indie rock duster-type music has generated a lot of music made just for aesthetics. And the pop music scene is at an all time low definitely
@@judd5662 well sure there's a lot of that, and they get a lot of engagement in algorithms, but that's not even close to all there is. that's like one subset of rock. The last couple years there's been a lot of stuff in pop punk, riot grrrl, punk rock, pop rock, etc that have been fuckin awesome. hell, even from mainstream rock artists there's been some great stuff. Mychem's song from last year was awesome and written insanely well. and outside of rock or pop, i mean, c'mon. there's a shit ton of gems out there. You just gotta know how to look.
@@jeremywaygay In my experience those genres breed a bunch of songs that sound the same which works for people new to that kind of music but not for me. Incelcore has some pretty great diversity in sound tho. Gjallarhornit has a sound closer to alternative rock and deathrock, negative xp has a more blunt and punk sound, and gezebelle garburgably has her own snailcore sound going on. To each their own but the most important things I look for in music is melody and identity.
Top tier content here.
Didn't know incelcore existed but I'll be damned if it doesn't speak to me on a visceral level. I'm not blackpilled or incel or anything like that, but it really cuts to the core of how difficult things feel when it comes to forming genuine human connections. Feels like real punk / grunge that's supposed to piss people off.
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It was proposed to give it the alternative name of Epunk so as to not throw people off lol
the music has a message that many people can agree with without being an incel or blackpilled, most songs are about being depressed and hating everyone and thing
@@cecilsmith2061 epunk is cope, i love the name incelcore, fuck bedroom punk!
I’m a Gen Xer and I quite like some incelcore, it’s got a ramshackle charm to it. The absurdist humour and sarcastic lo-fidelity makes it the soundtrack to societal collapse that postmodernism is a sign of. The rock’n’roll elements are a call for a return to tradition, whereas most early rock’n’roll was optimistic about a better future.
the purest form of punk. foids COULD NEVER
also normgroids cant into beyond entry level incelcore
Mate, punks punch nazis and tell the establishment to fuck off, not become misogynists because you’ve got no game
@@stantorren4400punk is not left leaning nor right leaning
@@dillydally3051 Punk is fucking left wing. Always has been.
This is basically just punk music with internet themed lyrics
Yup. Literally nothing new, this sound has been happening at basement/DIY show for decades already
@@destroyerjazzYou’re definitely missing the point if you think that the overall sound is supposed to be unique or the focus of the genre
@@lumen101 Nope, and seemingly lots of people agree with me. Just rebranding the same ole shit with a new name
@@destroyerjazz So what if it doesn’t sound new?
I watched another super popular video on incelcore and honestly I think you did like a 200x better job at grasping the essence of the genre and explaining it to the viewer.
Well done, keep it up, brah!
I would never imagine someone actually talking about any of this bands, really shows how dedicated you are to music. I'm glad they got some recognition. This videos are so good man
It’s so over
go outside
its ovER @@fishgaming280
I get goosebumbs when I have my favorite genres broken down by you, great stuff love the unescessary overxplaining together with thoughtful critic
I’m 42 and this takes me back to 1993 for sure. I’m feeling this.
"Please be Patient I Have Autism" is honestly a pretty good song and "Low T" By HARD CHRIST is just hilarious lol.
I hate the fact that foids are trying to parasitize even the incel comunity, they can't see a group without trying to join it to gain attention
Incel core has so many different sounds in it, but it doesnt feel out of place to listen to anhero, gezebelle gaburgably, and preripped all in the same playlist
This channel is a hidden gem. Thanks for your work.
Sounds more punk than grunge. I understand what you’re getting at because the sad themes
So punk-grunge are garage-grunge
its also called epunk so yeah youre right
Incredible, have been listening to incelcore since i was 14 (18 now lol), even though i'm not from a english speaking country i felt in love with the genre
zoomer pride worldwide!
Based pfp. Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait.
Real
Same bro.
This was actually the best description I could find about the genre, summed up perfectly💯
Epunk/Incelcore is just 70s Punk + Emo + any random genre (every artist is different, Fried by Fluoride adds surf, Negative XP is indie, Gezebelle Gaburgably is experimental/noise rock, etc.)
Yeah, this “new genre” sounds like countless bands I’ve seen play countless basement shows all over the country in random small or college towns. Thinking this is new is very laughable
Honestly Incelcore sounds like something I wouldn't mind listening to more, if it was you know, actual music level production.
The subject matter is too funny to ignore.
There is actually a song that exists that sounds like a precursor to Incelcore, but is entirely unaffiliated with the genre, if you can call it one.
"Creep" by Radiohead
nah I think creep is about some autistic dude that can't approach his oneitis (crush in normal language), incelcore is mostly about ugly subhuman dudes that have nothing going on for them and their approaches to women have always failed, and know they are done for
I think the fact that so many people take offense to these guys is what keeps them making music. It's meant to be absurd; it's meant to make you rewind the song and listen to the lyrics again to make sure you heard them right. That's why the Pixies (one of the best bands ever, by the way) wrote so many songs involving incest and heads getting smashed. That's why Sid Vicious claimed to have killed a cat and Glenn Danzig sang about killing a baby and Death played a song about necrophilia. They're all considered classic acts now, but they were probably just as controversial in their day as NegativeXP is now, even if they didn't get the insane amount of exposure that comes with the internet.
And just like back in the day, I think the kids like it a lot more than the adults. 13 year olds showed up to catholic school with a black sabbath sticker on their bike, and now days incelcore seems to appeal to the zoomer and alienate the millenial and older generations. I've seen so many people in their late 20s and 30s trash negative XP as if their messages are meant to be taken completely seriously and they are literally the devil. I think incelcore really appeals to the 16 to 20 year old college crowd.
I envy zoomers. This is way better than the emo pop-punk of my era.
I envy zoomers because it’s way easier to make music now than ever before
@@Not_Sal you're not too old to make music bro
@@jakeola10 I’m not too old I’m just too busy and don’t have the time to make music
We are living in the worst era though
Don't worry. They have modern hip-hop and pop music to balance it out.
This channel is my favorite way to find new music
I wonder how we will look back on the music come 10 - 20 years? Will it be generation defining? Or will it fade into complete obscurity?
Fair question. All of these artists are pretty obscure, and the popularity of the Scott Pilgrim song is most likely for the lulz of the subject matter, rather than an indication of a Negative XP fanbase. But who knows, maybe someone will tweak the style just enough to be more radio friendly, and create a sensation. Though probably not, as Rock isn't what it used to be.
its up to you to to share it, its embarrassing sure. but life affirming, some songs by these artists are comparable to Daniel Johnston (kurt cobains favourite musician)
This comment sucks
@@readuth1488 lol
hi readuth
Well, this has officially made it to the community, cuz i’m seeing it now. I don’t entirely agree with everything said, but i’m always glad to see this stuff shared. knowing a lot of these guys, i have a lot of respect for them. I also think there’s a lot of (in a relative sense) smaller artists in the community that could use more attention. As apathetic and poorly produced a lot of the stuff is as a style, there’s some genuine gold in there.
I actually really like this stuff. Didn’t know it was called incelcore. I just like the raw lofi noisiness of it but I’m also a fan of other more stripped back rock styles like the aforementioned grunge, Indie/alternative like pixies and Sonic Youth, both 60s and newer garage rock and classic punk and hardcore so this just feels like a natural progression to me and I’m not even Gen Z. I’m a millennial born too late for Grunge and too early for this lol
Good vid man, I am really glad that this type of music is getting a bit more recognized cuz I'm kinda like a rock in a hard place whenever i bring up music with some friends.
This is an amazing video for an amazing genre of music. Great job, man!
Love this new series you be cooked up, I find it better than the previous metal videos cuz they sorta dragged on, they were just as high in quality tho, keep up the work g
awesome unbiased commentary on just the music
We're so back
been listening to the genre (incelcore/bedroom punk/ loser core as i prefer to call it) for a few years, and you’ve pretty much hit the nail on the head. i think the song “collapsing “ by neet and dethtech is the most emblematic of the genre. good vid
now the MOG videos are starting to get to the point where I just wonder: is this a real thing?
this is so hard and you are so real for this 😭😭😭😭
Been listening to Gezebelle Gaburgably for years now, shes honestly super talented
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@@kmayn3675 If you are joking I get it, but shes a girl my friend lol
>she
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WOMAN?????
i love your videos a lot, you're like...every frame a painting, but with music. which fucking rules. thanks for the new music recs.
This channel is severely underrated
I've listened to this type of music for 2 years and i didn't even know the name of the ganre, this really helped me understand the music and themes so now i can explain it to people better. Thanks and keep up the good work
Thanks for enlightening us. Definitely going to start binging this genre now
I’ve been listening to negative xp and hard christ 4 a while and I think it’s cool that ur covering this 👍👍
This is about as good a video as someone could make on the genre. Good shit as always, dude.
I didn't even know this was a genre.
Any crustox fans here? He's so unheard of and he's quite under the radar but he's so good lmao.
He’s similar size to a lot if the other big artists on spotify, yet seems to hardly be brought up in discussions on the genre. Sox is a talented guy, i like him.
@@Punk0341 ikr😔
Love crust
His Reddit song is brilliant
Saw him in Bancdcamp but ive never heard
I loved turkey toms video on this. I found it very wholesome
Oh boy, we really messed up didn’t we lol
Incelcore: "Is that a bottle of Doompills?", "Just 1 everyday for maximum dooming?" *Takes whole bottle *Becomes Thanos...
I unapologetically love Gezebelle Gaburgably. Even my wife listens to her.
I’ve been waiting for this. This is what I’ve been doing and always wanted to do.
i love how these all pretty much sound like theyre recorded over cod voice chat, really adds to the atmosphere
I get it. I get it now. As an art form, I respect it.
sounded like weezer or the pixies at first based, but this genre is way more based than all the rest put together 🔥 go zoomers!
This guy's playing all my favorite songs 😂
The bit is so deep I think this is fantastic! They should stay away from my playlists! With love and respect for the craft.
Amazing video. I hope I'm not too late to make my comments. Actually I thinking the "incelcore" is more related to those late 90's hardcore bands, who could be called melodic, or "real emo" (v.g. Falling Forward, 88 Fingers Louie). Not only Sunny Day Real State, but even early Green Day material can be related to incelcore. If you see Dookie, Nimrod or Insomniac albuns the lyrics are very similar (v.g. The Grouch, Geek Stink Breath). And even some early melodic bands like Husker Du and Descendents or even some Black Flag works (v.g. Depression, Fix Me) are very relatable, as both those bands and the whole incelcore niche are talking about facing life with bits of indifference, and realize we're not playing to win, songs about feeling out of place in society, about being unable to social interaction.
So, my point of view, as the name can indicate, incelcore is more like "another level" of those introspective melodic Hardcore bands than some "washed out" Grunge.
Yup. This is just a new version of a sound that’s been going on for decades and for some reason people think stumbled upon on a new genre😂
I've never heard of this style of music.
I kind of like it man it sounds pretty good
Its a kind of hopeful nihilism, apathy that desires change.
I think thats one of the things i like the most about the genre, the songs are about peoples and societies problems but done in a way that implies a desire to change them, some of the artists even sing so gs encouraging others or themselves to change. Its negative but in a positive way, like self reflection.
I'm someone whos established niche tends to be around the alternative emo, indie, and midwest emo genres and honestly I see a lot of parallels between the destitution of all these types of music. My favorite band is the New Jersey band The Front Bottoms and I would say a lot of their discography can be described as wistful yet mostly upbeat. Incelcore/Epunk is just far less introspective and vague about the sadness the "narrator" is talking about. It's generally angrier with a more modest sound and I very much enjoy that. It makes me feel as if I can make music that people can connect with or laugh at and ironically gives me hope. Thanks for making this video and being one of the few people who don't shit on this genres entire existence on the basis that the label it got stuck with is something people shame.
Good video with a nice coverage of all bases
incelcore is the soundtrack of the Kaliyuga
Amen to that
kali yuga uber alles
I love this series of videos.
When you mentioned Thall, I thought that's the genre your going to discuss, but you decided to cover THIS instead.
Your a genius
I think a genre should be a bit different then only be defined by a guitar playing style. I still think Djent is not a legit "genre" in terms of what the definition of a genre is. It is for me a playing style of groove (metal) und thall for me is a playing style of djent guitar, defined by a very few bands that mostly want to sound like vildhjarta. But nonetheless i'm excited for the MOG video!
@@antares4975 um, yeah dude. Highly distinct playing style and characteristic aesthetic? Sure Djent is a genre. But I agree- Thall Isn't really much of a genre other than the way Meshuggah played Djent
the amounf chronically online internet knowledge to know about any of this is insane
Used to adore incelcore back in the day, love to see moar talking bt it
Huh, you may have unlocked a new genre for me.
You left out tzarbombah (probably the most punk type incelcore band)
How haven't I known about this genre up until now? This music is made for me!
How did this end up in my timeline 😳😳
I unironicly enjoy this music it kinda slaps plus it kinda just melts my brain
I grew up in the 90's with grunge. This is spot on (especially the Pixies compaison), and i have a new current favorite genre of music. Thanks
i love incelcore its EPIC
Been listening since 2019
Great video, but IMO you understated the influence of electronic music and 2000s “scene” revival. Artists like XO_willow don’t sound like grunge at all, being closer to hyper pop than anything, and yet were part of the MSG group and just as popular if not more so than artists like hard Christ.
Negative XP's live stream showing his process inspired me to make music and Im still doing just that almost 4 years later. Though my "incelcore" project was about drinking piss
"Metal is all about extremes, even if in this case, that means extremely pathetic." lmaooo. Great line
I can't believe I've been listening to black metal for 21 years and found a genre that makes me want to say, "Oh come on, kids, lighten up - life is not that bad".
The Melvins is back
Good vid bro
at least this music makes other people feel less alone for feeling unable to form connections or despairing about how the world’s been for a while; cant say i havent felt those feelings despite not listening to this genre
I can’t decide if I like more the overproduced vocoded epics like A7x or the voice memo in a school bathroom style but at the end they both conclude with a primal scream so what does it matter right.
So, this is the genre that keeps rock n roll alive. Hm...
And I love that the MSG (MK Ultra Support Group) combines many Incel Core artists together and has about 5 wonderful collab albums
thanks for introducing me to gez
yooo this exists?? super cool they get to express themselves in musical ways now
I've heard of the scott pilgrim song for quite a while now, but funny enough I don't think I've really delved into this particular genre.
I will say that it does resonate with me on some level. not "literally me" levels. Im not some blackpilled incel or doomer or whatever lmao, but the common topics you hear in these types of songs has a certain rawness to it that I haven't really seen anywhere else.
I do genuinely think the name "incelcore" really does fit. Not because people who make this or listen to it are literally "incels", as in more than just a label they give themselves, but because I think it perfectly encapsulates that feeling of resignation from a careless society that this genre of music tries to convey.
again, you (as in the listener,) (realistically) arent actually an Incel by definition, you aren't some blackpilled misogynist with zero hope for/genuine desire to change the future, you just feel disillusioned with society as a whole, and in fact you may even want to "be the change you want to see" in some way, but whats the point in calling yourself anything else when people are just gonna disregard you as an "incel" anyways?
In that regard, I genuinely think its a perfect name, and moreover why the name "e-punk" never really sat correctly with me, it just feels like giving into the people you criticized in some way, or that you let them get to you, I dunno. It'll be interesting to see which name sticks.
I mean this in the most respectful way I can towards these artist (as I think this might be the point of the music) but I think this was the first video where I didn't like a single song presented from the genre lmfao. Maybe the snail one was alright, the instrumentals and shit actually sounded interesting in the snail walking video.
Random factoid that may or may not be related to anything here, but the Cyborg 9000 was a prototype paintball gun made by PVI that was based on the original Shocker electropneumatic. Paintball has a very large and nostalgic fan base. Might be a tiny bit relevant here. We all wish for the old days.
Pretty based video dude. Been listening to the scene on and off whenever I wanted to listen to something more modern. I always thought Incelcore artists were basically the new modern punk, as punk has basically died in the last 10-20 years. I'd kill for something like this, even washed down 90 percent, became somewhat mainstream. Too many people in the incelcore scene go AWOL and never post again.
Thank you for this video, I might not end up getting super deep into incelcore, but I do find it at the very least interesting. I've been needing something different to listen to.
The catcher in the rye if it was a music genre.
7:19 yes, dissonant death metal and atmospheric progmetal
"Internet buzzwords have ruined my brain"
@@readuth1488 lol nah but really those arent buzzword, maybe atmospheric progmetal is a bit of one but I can't call Iotunn's music differently than that. For dissonant death metal, look into Gorguts' discography
@@user-gd1no3gf6d I don't understand a word you are saying
@@readuth1488 then watch more videos from this channel to understand a bit about metal or use google translate