I like your gar cage, it works well, nice little invention to remove the nylon cord. I am going to make one, appreciate your ingenuity. I will be fishing for gar on the outflow of water from Lake Okeechobee on the Caloosahatchee river in my new Twin Troller. Thanks again a real practical solution for a good lure, and removal system. Fast Eddy, retired.
Great idea with that gar holder! Is that gar spinner that you made good for blindly casting for gars much like a regular spinner is for bass? A slow, steady retrieve is best I assume.
Thanks! I know this would be decent for blind casting, but probably be frustrating because with this set up you are dedicated to gar only (knot on hook would keep bass from being able to bite it.) And yes, I find a slow and steady retrieve to be the best. If site casting, or casting into a group of porpoising gar, a slow retrieve (just enough to keep the spinner action moving) works pretty good. Thanks for the comment! Doug
holy moly that gar basket is genious! definitely gonna try it one day. How do you loose the nylon string from their mouth? Is it possible to remove them without killing it so you can release it again?
Hey Iron Gear! With the gar in the trap, you simply cut the nylon out of it's mouth. so Yes the animal is fine. I just cut the rope as close as possible to it's jaw and pic it out with the scissors until enough is gone that they can move easily.
Hey there, I usually use rope that’s a 1/2” or so in diameter. The important part is the twisted vs the braided. Braided is hard to work with. Good luck! - Doug
Sorry for the delay. Once you get the fish to the boat, I use heavy duty scissors to cut the line from around the teeth. I kind of pick it out until they can open their mouth. Once they can open and close their mouth, they are good to go. Thanks for the comment! Good Fishing! Doug
Doug, Thanks for the video. Please what is the exact name and brand of the lure you recommended, I am having a hard time finding one with a closed hookup locally so I may have to check online. Thanks
Hey PetMemorial - to be honest I'm not sure what brand that lure was. I just walked down the isle until I found one that was closed at the connection. Doesn't need to be expensive either. Good luck! Doug
Look at my comment above, I fish for gar using live cut bait if you cant find his rig. His rig will work ALOT better for longnose gar tho, I have found you usally only hook about 1 in 10 longnose gar without a rig like this
So the actual hook on the original spinner doesn't even need to go in its mouth? It's all the little peices of rope, I got big gar by my lake house and I'll get them to hit a live minnow but if I don't set the hook good it'll pull out of their mouth
The steel leader is the most important part of any gar rig lol all my gar ive caught with cut brim with steel lead on 20lb test, ive caught a pretty big guy that was about 4 foot he was a great fight
Sorry for the delay. Usually after they fight (it's a hard fight, but short) they will pretty much do whatever you want with them. If they get their second wind, just let them run out 40 or 50 yards and fight them again. After that happens once or twice, they will comply. Thanks for the comment! Doug
I've been trying out the twisted nylon rope lures. The gar come up and eat it but they don't get stuck. I'm using twisted nylon rope that I've unwinded. They just come and bite it and spit it right out. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for the comment. The only advice I can give is to maintain a slow steady retrieve to keep the spoon turning. Once you see or feel the fish take to don't do a heavy set but more of a deliberate increase in retrieve force/speed. If the floss is in their teeth, (and there is enough of it (the floss that is)) you'll be successful. Good luck. Tight lines! Doug
Sorry it took so long to reply. I'm not sure. Once you get the hit, don't set the hook like you would a bass. Just reel them in with a little back pressure. This will lock the rope in their teeth. Make sure you are using nylon rope too. Some of the poly stuff won't work very well. I hope that helps! Good luck! Doug
Hardest part is getting a hook in the mouth especially the longnose gar which is what this rig is for. (pretty much, most other shorter nosed gar swallow the bait whole) Ive caught many with live cut bait, The longnose gar holds the bait in its long snout for a longggggg time before swallowing the bait. leave your drag REALLLLY loose, I usally wait about 30 seconds-1 min before tightening my drag again to reel, try to wait for him to stop moving that is when they will swallow the bait. Once you get he hook in him they are very good at swiming under logs and getting away fast, these fish are without a doubt the fastest freshwater fish in the southeast, Ive seen one of these take my line 100 yards down river in a blink of an eye, before I could even get the pole he already droped the bait and kept flying down river, in the shallow Tar river you can see these things flying around moving the currents
Hey There! No need to upscale this one. I use this lure when I fish and I usually catch 3'-4' fish on it with no problems. You'll need 12 lbs or better test line and of course a steel leader (I'd go with 18") just to be safe. Good Luck and let me know how it goes. Doug
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, catching them when they swallow is pretty hard on the fish too. Usually they die. This is really just a discomfort for them. No big deal. Good luck fishing! Doug
Believe me, I have thought about it. I am thinking about making a gar fishing kit. It would come with the garmenator, some rope lures, gloves, and scissors. What do you think? Maybe offer on e-Bay. Thanks for the comment! Doug
zachmac I don’t have any videos of this thing in action. I bought all the parts at Lowe’s. The green part is a leaf guard that keeps garbage out of drain lines. It’s in the plumbing section.
@@dnejeff Thanks for the reply!!!! Does it effectively control the Gar's thrashing? I caught my first one last week and they are POWERFUL creatures for sure!
@@zachmac Once they are in the pvc pipe, the thrashing stops completely. Even if they try, there is no space for them to move. This makes cutting the nylon rope out of their mouth much easier. The fish can breath air, so no need to feel bad for them being out of the water for a few moments either. I'd love to see some pics. Good Luck!
Hi there. Yes, for the lure that's really it. If you can see the gar cast just in from of them or reel this life past them and they will go after it. They're attracted to the spoon and that's a it takes. I have another (cell phone video) on my page showing a fish going after the lure. Hope that helps! Good luck. Doug
I tried this lure, and caught a nice three foot gar within 10 mins. I didn't realize that I was gonna have to got the string out every time I coughs one, and I didn't bring extra
FaZe Trump the metal leader will prove itself useful if you get an aggressive fish on. Those teeth can rip the line apart, then you lose the lure. Good luck and I'm glad you had quick success! Take care! Doug
worst Hello there. Yes you can eat them and they are very good. Lots of recipes out there for gar balls and Cajun inspired dishes. It's important to note that the row is poisonous to humans so you should be very careful when cleaning. If cleaned properly, you should never enter the abdominal cavity of the fish though. It a white flaky meat that is a little more dense (like chicken lol) thanks for the question! Doug
You could use braided rope if you like, but it will take a lot of time to get it unbraided so it will be hairlike. Using twisted takes 30 seconds to untwist and shake it out. I'd spend the cash and buy twisted. Good luck 😊 Doug
Josh Flori - gotta be the presentation. If they are active at the surface, you should just toss it in front of them and use a slow steady retrieve. That initiates a bite for me 80-90% of the time. You might shorten the floss too. Good luck. Doug
I would say a clear nylon would be best, Ive put these rigs on a regular hook with live cut bait with great success. And you just leave the bait there and wait for them no reel work
They love freshly killed cut bait, I usually catch a few brim and cut them into 1/4s LARGE chunks to cover the whole hook with the nylon hanging free around it
Dude I consider myself a professional gar fisherman and that's fucking genius man.. I got to get the supplies and put one together myself and I will let you know how it goes sir but you definitely need to patent that and get that shitt on the market. If I could come up with any other things to add or make better I will let you know but that looks pretty solid right there.
You should definitely patent this idea! Very innovative and unique!
Thanks Noah, I wish I could.
I like your gar cage, it works well, nice little invention to remove the nylon cord. I am going to make one, appreciate your ingenuity. I will be fishing for gar on the outflow of water from Lake Okeechobee on the Caloosahatchee river in my new Twin Troller. Thanks again a real practical solution for a good lure, and removal system. Fast Eddy, retired.
I looove the contraption for landing the gar! How awesome it would be for kayaking too!
This is pretty darn neat...I'm wanting to do some gar fishing this year and this lure is ideal...the holder is pretty cool too...
Thanks Mike! Good luck with the gar! Tight lines Doug
This is a great video and awesome twist (pun intended) on the rope lure concept!
very smart gar-gadget !
Thanks! I thought so too. 😁 now I need one for sharks.
Highly intelligent..simple but effective...well done
question I have is how long do you have to negotiate with that gar to get him to go into the tube ?
Great idea with that gar holder! Is that gar spinner that you made good for blindly casting for gars much like a regular spinner is for bass? A slow, steady retrieve is best I assume.
Thanks! I know this would be decent for blind casting, but probably be frustrating because with this set up you are dedicated to gar only (knot on hook would keep bass from being able to bite it.) And yes, I find a slow and steady retrieve to be the best. If site casting, or casting into a group of porpoising gar, a slow retrieve (just enough to keep the spinner action moving) works pretty good. Thanks for the comment! Doug
@@dnejeff Thanks for the response and suggestions! I'm gonna make this lure and see how it work on gars.
Awesome. Like the gar fish tube
Thanks 👍
How much do you think I should upscale for a 3 foot long...longnose gar? There's one near me and I die a little every time I see it.
holy moly that gar basket is genious! definitely gonna try it one day. How do you loose the nylon string from their mouth? Is it possible to remove them without killing it so you can release it again?
Hey Iron Gear! With the gar in the trap, you simply cut the nylon out of it's mouth. so Yes the animal is fine. I just cut the rope as close as possible to it's jaw and pic it out with the scissors until enough is gone that they can move easily.
thanks!
Does it matter what size of rope
Hey there, I usually use rope that’s a 1/2” or so in diameter. The important part is the twisted vs the braided. Braided is hard to work with. Good luck! - Doug
@@dnejeff gotcha
Sorry for the delay. Once you get the fish to the boat, I use heavy duty scissors to cut the line from around the teeth. I kind of pick it out until they can open their mouth. Once they can open and close their mouth, they are good to go. Thanks for the comment! Good Fishing! Doug
I use my cutters and just cut the rope, then I pick at it. It comes out with no problem. Thanks!
Doug
Wow thats thinkin outside of the box, nice job.
Doug, Thanks for the video. Please what is the exact name and brand of the lure you recommended, I am having a hard time finding one with a closed hookup locally so I may have to check online. Thanks
Hey PetMemorial - to be honest I'm not sure what brand that lure was. I just walked down the isle until I found one that was closed at the connection. Doesn't need to be expensive either. Good luck! Doug
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Look at my comment above, I fish for gar using live cut bait if you cant find his rig. His rig will work ALOT better for longnose gar tho, I have found you usally only hook about 1 in 10 longnose gar without a rig like this
Just close the top of any spinner bait with a pair of pliers. I do it for trolling with no problems
Do you twist it?
So the actual hook on the original spinner doesn't even need to go in its mouth? It's all the little peices of rope, I got big gar by my lake house and I'll get them to hit a live minnow but if I don't set the hook good it'll pull out of their mouth
Hi there! You're right. The floss gets tangled in their teeth and they are caught. Let me know how you do with them.
Thanks for sharing this with us.
The steel leader is the most important part of any gar rig lol all my gar ive caught with cut brim with steel lead on 20lb test, ive caught a pretty big guy that was about 4 foot he was a great fight
That's a good thing to have, also I think cab be used for pike
That is absolutely incredible
Sorry for the delay. Usually after they fight (it's a hard fight, but short) they will pretty much do whatever you want with them. If they get their second wind, just let them run out 40 or 50 yards and fight them again. After that happens once or twice, they will comply. Thanks for the comment! Doug
I've been trying out the twisted nylon rope lures. The gar come up and eat it but they don't get stuck. I'm using twisted nylon rope that I've unwinded. They just come and bite it and spit it right out. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for the comment. The only advice I can give is to maintain a slow steady retrieve to keep the spoon turning. Once you see or feel the fish take to don't do a heavy set but more of a deliberate increase in retrieve force/speed. If the floss is in their teeth, (and there is enough of it (the floss that is)) you'll be successful. Good luck. Tight lines! Doug
great video
Sorry it took so long to reply. I'm not sure. Once you get the hit, don't set the hook like you would a bass. Just reel them in with a little back pressure. This will lock the rope in their teeth. Make sure you are using nylon rope too. Some of the poly stuff won't work very well. I hope that helps! Good luck! Doug
Hardest part is getting a hook in the mouth especially the longnose gar which is what this rig is for. (pretty much, most other shorter nosed gar swallow the bait whole)
Ive caught many with live cut bait, The longnose gar holds the bait in its long snout for a longggggg time before swallowing the bait. leave your drag REALLLLY loose, I usally wait about 30 seconds-1 min before tightening my drag again to reel, try to wait for him to stop moving that is when they will swallow the bait.
Once you get he hook in him they are very good at swiming under logs and getting away fast, these fish are without a doubt the fastest freshwater fish in the southeast, Ive seen one of these take my line 100 yards down river in a blink of an eye, before I could even get the pole he already droped the bait and kept flying down river, in the shallow Tar river you can see these things flying around moving the currents
Hey There! No need to upscale this one. I use this lure when I fish and I usually catch 3'-4' fish on it with no problems. You'll need 12 lbs or better test line and of course a steel leader (I'd go with 18") just to be safe. Good Luck and let me know how it goes. Doug
There teeth are pointed needle sharp there not like little knifes you don't need a steel leader
Ive used rope before, but the contraption for getting the gar out of the water is a good idea.
Thanks Todd. It works really well. Please let me know if you try it. Doug
thanks for the tip.going to try that
I made one of these rope lures and had a gar on 5 or 6 times but they got off every time before I could land them. What am I doing wrong?
Your a smart man for this idea
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, catching them when they swallow is pretty hard on the fish too. Usually they die. This is really just a discomfort for them. No big deal. Good luck fishing! Doug
Damn MacGyver that thing is awesome
Freaking amazing idea, brilliant!
super cool idea
nice video sweet set up
since the rope kind of sticks to the teeth how do you get it out of its mouth
This is ingenious
Jake Trch thanks! :) D
Believe me, I have thought about it. I am thinking about making a gar fishing kit. It would come with the garmenator, some rope lures, gloves, and scissors. What do you think? Maybe offer on e-Bay. Thanks for the comment! Doug
You don't need a steel leader 20 pound mono works fine
Great video thank you very much
I'd love to see some video footage of your unhooking device in action!!!!!
zachmac I don’t have any videos of this thing in action. I bought all the parts at Lowe’s. The green part is a leaf guard that keeps garbage out of drain lines. It’s in the plumbing section.
@@dnejeff Thanks for the reply!!!! Does it effectively control the Gar's thrashing? I caught my first one last week and they are POWERFUL creatures for sure!
@@zachmac Once they are in the pvc pipe, the thrashing stops completely. Even if they try, there is no space for them to move. This makes cutting the nylon rope out of their mouth much easier. The fish can breath air, so no need to feel bad for them being out of the water for a few moments either. I'd love to see some pics. Good Luck!
so for the lure..that's it? just cast it and reel it like a bass lure. no pencil floats, no live bait anything??
Hi there. Yes, for the lure that's really it. If you can see the gar cast just in from of them or reel this life past them and they will go after it. They're attracted to the spoon and that's a it takes. I have another (cell phone video) on my page showing a fish going after the lure. Hope that helps! Good luck. Doug
That's the most bad ass lighter I've ever seen
How do you get the rope out?
I tried this lure, and caught a nice three foot gar within 10 mins. I didn't realize that I was gonna have to got the string out every time I coughs one, and I didn't bring extra
I didn't use a metal leader and caught it just fine
FaZe Trump the metal leader will prove itself useful if you get an aggressive fish on. Those teeth can rip the line apart, then you lose the lure. Good luck and I'm glad you had quick success! Take care! Doug
Pretty damn cool! Thanks
That gar tamer is awesome. You need a patent.
Can u eat them and if so r they any good
worst Hello there. Yes you can eat them and they are very good. Lots of recipes out there for gar balls and Cajun inspired dishes. It's important to note that the row is poisonous to humans so you should be very careful when cleaning. If cleaned properly, you should never enter the abdominal cavity of the fish though. It a white flaky meat that is a little more dense (like chicken lol) thanks for the question! Doug
Cool vid
"were gonna take out our lighter" *pulls out a mini blowtorch*.
easton dart lol.. anything worth doing is worth over doing :) thanks for the chuckle.
i thought it was funny by the way i subcribed and i will try to keep up with your vids
Seen the rope trick over 30 yrs ago.
.thats a good idea man!!
What's wrong with using braided rope?
You could use braided rope if you like, but it will take a lot of time to get it unbraided so it will be hairlike. Using twisted takes 30 seconds to untwist and shake it out. I'd spend the cash and buy twisted. Good luck 😊 Doug
Doug Jeffries combs work extremely well for braided. also probably for twisted, havent tried
I tried a rope lure and the gar don't seem to care for it in the slightest :( They just look at it
Josh Flori - gotta be the presentation. If they are active at the surface, you should just toss it in front of them and use a slow steady retrieve. That initiates a bite for me 80-90% of the time. You might shorten the floss too. Good luck. Doug
interesting, thanks for the response.
If they are spawning they may not bite on anything. Just toss a net on em.
Genius!
Genius
Clever
Bought one in the sixt
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T was a spoon with nylom string
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That was asome
Works ok I need a drain stop
Hey thanks ibleedblue1101! :)
Try putting it on the back of a chatterbait or something
Just made one
You should make and sell these on eBay.
anyone ever try any other colors?
Yellow red combo
Not Too Sure These Days any luck?
I would say a clear nylon would be best, Ive put these rigs on a regular hook with live cut bait with great success. And you just leave the bait there and wait for them no reel work
They love freshly killed cut bait, I usually catch a few brim and cut them into 1/4s LARGE chunks to cover the whole hook with the nylon hanging free around it
They also seem to like the chunks with the fins more LOL not kidding
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Big big daddy
Dude I consider myself a professional gar fisherman and that's fucking genius man.. I got to get the supplies and put one together myself and I will let you know how it goes sir but you definitely need to patent that and get that shitt on the market. If I could come up with any other things to add or make better I will let you know but that looks pretty solid right there.