Kinahan downfall: It's over - what happens now | Paul Williams
Вставка
- Опубліковано 13 кві 2022
- Crime journalist Paul Williams reflects on this week's extraordinary developments regarding the Kinahan crime group - and the role played by the sport of boxing.
Gillette | #EffortlessFlow
Have you downloaded the OTB App?
- Search for OTB Sports in the Google Play store:
play.google.com/store/apps/de...
- Search for OTB Sports in the app store if you're on iOs: apps.apple.com/ie/app/otb-spo...
SUBSCRIBE to the Off The Ball channels:
- UA-cam | / offtheball. .
- TWITTER | / offtheball. .
- INSTAGRAM | / offtheball. .
- FACEBOOK | / offtheball. .
- WEBSITE | www.otbsports.com/radio...
- We are live on the OTB SPORTS app 24/7
- or if you don't have the app listen on desktop: www.otbsports.com/radio...
PODCAST the show too - we'll timestamp it for you as well
- iTunes: search for OTB AM in your app!
- Spotify: search for OTB AM in your app!
- We are wherever you get your podcast
GET IN TOUCH WITH OFF THE BALL
- WhatsApp: get in touch on 0879180180
- Snapchat: add us and message the show @offtheball1
- Twitter: follow and tweet us @offtheball and @offtheballam - Спорт
Great interview and a very chilling note at the end :)
KUGAN CASSIUS, SAM JONES, BEN SHALOM, TYSON FURY, BILLY JOE SAUNDERS, BEN DAVISON, JOSH TAYLOR……YOUR BOY IS ABOUT TO TAKE ONE HELL OF A BEATING 😂😂
I wonder how he will wash his money once the fighters have to take a step back from him?
And Hearn and Warren, DAZN, sky, BT Sport et al.... None are innocent in this
@@TommyRetailarmy why do people care so much how he earned his money. Living legend tbh 😆
@@amc599 made a YT chanel 10 hours ago just to praise Dan for being a mob boss?? 🤔
@@KRSapphire lmao calm down Kev, why does it bother you so much? Legendary to have made it so far with illicit funds. No drug lord could ever do that. I rate it highly, sold some cain and shot some gangsters. Minor stuff 🤷🏾♂️
Boxing needs cleaning up full stop.This is why l retired early from Training and Management because l will not be owned by no one. It was a pretty easy decision for me to make but it is a terrible shame. Thank God it was not around at this level when l was Training and Managing fighters back in the 90s and early 2000s. 👍🥊🥊💥
Respect
Nothing will change.
Even if they get taken down (which they won't) there will ALWAYS be someone waiting to fill the gap... That's they way it has ALWAYS been
yeah them power vacuums get filled in again real fast, then eventually the Tony Montana-type gets too big and an up and coming player waits then takes over. Edit - haha dude just literally compared El Traperhan to Tony Montana lol, too funny, had me hurting from laughing.
theres loads of drug barons
yet i bet your against legalising
Yup. Someone will fill right in. It’s a merry go round. When they killed Escobar that totally stopped cocain in America right?
Daniel Joseph Kinahan is the second coming of Jesus Christ and will be installed at King of kings all over the world in 2029.
Born on 25-6-77 Kinahan is a sacred man and has been following God the father's instructions as the world narcotics dealer.
He is a great man who has helped 1000s out including Tyson Luke Fury.
It's judgement day and God doesn't forget those who has judged his only son Jesus in this life or his last.
Goodluck.
Worst phone line ever. Dont call him back on a different line line 🙄
I think that was kinahan worst move he could ever made was to try move into the boxing scene in the states.
It's because they've to much money and it needs to be cleaned and how do you do that quick
@@tangerinedreamer50 yes 👍🏼 MTK must have revenue two billion in five years
Bob Aram use to work for the justice department and was in charge of investigating corruption in boxing. True story.
Yer, but it's good for Ireland, and banging these people up in American Jails would get rid of them for life, a massive saving for the Irish Tax Payer,
Keep away from the states they see the money the feds are in straight away he was to greedy this side of the world he wass making 100smil
Tyson Fury, the honest, born again Christian called him a friend and a good man
How do you know he aint
@@thesorrow88 - I was a big Fury fan but I’ve come to realise the man is a hypocrite at least.
The amount of grieving, deaths, withdrawals and so on, is too much for any man to ignore.
Boxing is full of fakers. TF & AJ being two of them.
He also believes in God enuf said
@@jamesodriscoll6748 if god made man why did man make so many gods? 🧐
Boxing is corrupt and rotten,Fury knows exactly where Kinahans get there money.
*_Kinnahan need's to be tried in the U.S because if he was arrested today in Ireland, he'd be free inside of 10 years. I remember Ireland number one crime reporter was shot dead by Brian Meehan who stopped his motorcycle beside her in busy traffic & put 5 of 6 .357 rounds into her head & neck. If she was not a public figure he would have got life, meaning 18 years. But as she was a public figure, he got 40 years upon conviction.[he's due for release this year after serving 26 years of his 40 yrs] His boss, John Glligan, got the longest sentence EVER handed down to a person in Ireland for a non-voilent crime or a crime related to drugs. [he's free now]Even murderers don't get 20 years. My nephew was stabbed to death in 2012 & his two adult killers got 4 & 14 years. [rewarded for co-operating with cops once arrested, despite the fact that a farmer found his body 6mnts after his murder, so if not for this they may never have been caught] My point is that if convicted of every charge you can throw at him, he would still not get double-digit numbers unless they can tie him to murder, then he gets less than And in Ireland, prisoners only serve 75% of their sentence. And then he's free to continue to run the empire Irish prisoners not only keep, but expand while in prison where they can run their operation without the weight of the world. So plz send him here, let us deal with him in the SDNY where El Chapo & other international criminals have been tried. I grew up in Ireland. I served in the U.S army where I know the destruction of ISIS helped europe aswell as America. I love Ireland so much & the taught of it been flooded with the synthetic drugs we have in Ireland is scary. But Kinihan would have no prob shipping them in. So lets try him where sentencing matches the crime & he doesn't get a reward for doing what he ought to._* 🤷♂
U can’t arrest someone whit no proof ? He’s never been charge whit anything there’s no warrants because there’s no proof!!
@@liverpoollegendsteve147 So you think the $5M for his arrest is just to chop it up with him? Come on dude, the U.S don't put the highest bounty legally allowed to be paid out for non-terror targets, just to talk.🤷♂
How can he of served 30 years if the crime wasn't even committed 30 years ago ?
@@KyleInOklahoma Anyone that gives information will go down whit him 😂😂u think 🤔 u can trusth America’s to pay u that bounty ya right they would put u in jail first
Well said. He should be within federal max security for the rest of his life. Maybe he will drop the soap and some big dudes can play with him hahahahhaha
It’s not just boxing. MTK heavily involved with MMA here and with Brave CF over in Dubai.
USA/DEA _does_ _not_ _like_ _it_ when big time traffickers become celebrity figures... Even if you gave Daniel the complete benefit of the doubt, his usage of the spotlight has been anything but beneficial. If he truly wanted to prove complete disassociation from his family's crimes, then it would have been best to spend all public time with utmost transparency.
You also can't go about the old "well I used to live a life of crime and now I don't" story without some kind of dramatic fall. At that point it just becomes painfully obvious that illicit funds were (or are) the source of your newly legitimate ventures. Behind every empire is a crime, sure, but not every empire was built upon international drug trafficking and all that comes with it.
Daniel Joseph Kinahan is the second coming of Jesus Christ and will be installed at King of kings all over the world in 2029.
Born on 25-6-77 Kinahan is a sacred man and has been following God the father's instructions as the world narcotics dealer.
He is a great man who has helped 1000s out including Tyson Luke Fury.
It's judgement day and God doesn't forget those who has judged his only son Jesus in this life or his last.
Goodluck.
Danny boy won't like the inside of a federal super-max! I'm delighted for him
He will never make it to a super max. Guantanamo bay Maybe.
He's innocent being made a scapegoat
@@killerk3925 He can tell that to the judge.
@@killerk3925 he's a mug
@@killerk3925 One question where did he get his money from.He didn't find it on the street.Its the most damning bit of evidence on this issue where did the money come from .
Can you get Paul on as a weekly guest..that was the funniest 20mins I've listened to in a while
He is dirt
SPASTIC
He is a liar with a lot of bitterness.he wrote many unfounded stories and created paranoia and therefore murder because of his stories...he doesn't know what he is talking about he thinks he knows.
@@Irishmush and let me add to that , he wrote B's stories during the drimnagh)crumlin feud which escalated it even more so (just what he wanted by the way). The man is not for the better of Ireland
@@kid--presentable blood on his hands..him and Nicola no tallant
‘Guy on the phone doesn’t stop coughing.’
lol 😆 🤣 😂
I have covid 19 after listening to that
Brilliant
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👍 That gave me a good laugh
The biggest criminals are politicians if you want to about organised crime. Let's talk about Klaus Shawb.
You guys have been saying it’s over for the kinihans for over 20 years now yet they just seem to become more powerful.
Thanks Paul for the info, you and Barry were bang up the money with this man.
Barry mc guigan calling out a crook now there is the pot calling the kettle black , barry should try paying his fighters maybe they might stay then
@@quack437 who payed frampton and Taylor to become world champions from the ground up ? Mcguigan did kinahan the snake moved in when they were world champions
@@denzel1989 who paid them well not mc guigan hence why frampton took him to court.... In the beginning most fighters have jobs to help pay for their training until the get sponsorship deals and make money from competition
@@quack437 fkn glass houses alright.
@@denzel1989 not barry he was robbing his own fighters thats why they left him and won a civil case
Everybodys your friend when your making money and living the high life, the second you have the police onto you and your on a downward spiral youl never be more lonely, there like rats leaveing a sinking ship everybody around you wants nothing to do with you friends, family, associates, you name it there gone
Alan Bond, the Aussie businessman... exactly what happened to him!
He won't even be able to trust his own now 5 million one of his close ones will sell him out 👍lets not pretend the garda are not as responsible for his success, been paid backhanders for years.
Some people would sell out there own mother for 5 mill .
I've been most surprised that they let him near major stars at events considering there are any number of people capable of trying to kill him.
People’s safety is forgotten about when there’s a lot of money involved
@@samjones4323 You know it mate.
That Manchester boxer got shot they thought it was Daniel
@@denzel1989 Jamie Moore boxer shot on the hip.outside D.K apartment..
Yeah I have always been surprised at that as well.
Time to get of the smokes Paul. That was shocking.
I find it hard to listen to this man his ego comes across straight away
My man needs a Covid test asap. 😤
Fury doesn't seem to be talking about his good mate Daniel kinahan anymore, surely he can't say he didn't know what kinahan was upto after the murder at the boxing in Dublin. I hope anyone involved goes to prison even the enforcers like Marvin the one eye
Yeah I didn’t think Marvin been seen lately he’s probably trying to get rid of that number plate on his motor
@Val O'Connell Klitchkos is probably responsible for war crimes
Why would fury need to talk about him its not any of furys business, he was connected via boxing nothing else so what kinahan has or hasnt been doing on that side of things isn't nothing to do with fury.
@@jameskadar6555 agreed
Fury took money soaked in the blood of Irish families. It’s sickening listen to him saying with a smile on his face that it has nothing to do with him. We’re not as stupid as Fury would like us to be! He knows that he’s nothing without a terrifying gang of killers.
Gillette, we will never forget about you painting men as Toxic!
Theres no escaping the long arm of the law. You can run but you cant hide!
You can if you’re a Tory MP or Prince Andrew
@@ck6264 ha
Bitter bitter Paul Williams has being discredit many times here in Ireland 🇮🇪
Paul Williams way over the top here...the modern day high level criminal knows its 100% best lawyers in the business to get you through the situation he's in.
The scarface analogy was mental.
Either way Daniel...Better call Saul.
It's Saul Goodman...
Justice for el chapahan
His entire interview was terrible. It was all over the place and he didn’t seem to be able to finish even the most simple of thoughts. This sounded exactly like someone who is supposed to be an expert but who in reality only know the surface info and can’t be bothered to research what, again, is the only reason he’s being interviewed for.
Not quite sure why such a big deal made of sanctions. Either you arrest someone or not, you don't give them a huge warning that they are being watched
Man has a way with words 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 even got a scarface analogy in there
Kinahan story important but does Maurice McCabe ring any bell?
Paul Williams is a bit of an ambulance chaser
remember kinahan runs mtk a managment company they dont pay fighters fighters pay them to manage there careers
That's generally what managers do but oh well
What's your point?
Ha, you think managers should pay for the privilege to manage someone?
What a stupid comment.
Managers get between 10-20% of the clients earnings. If thenclient makes no money the manager makes no money.
What manager is gonna pay its client and then say wait I want my percentage out my own money too? So silly
No Kinahan was managing alot of them for free
Deleting my comments on Williams , he is not for the good of Ireland, there I have moderated my words , don't attempt to delete this
Pretty sure Ger Gilroy isn't too young to remember the film Scarface.
Paul Williams has a masters degree
Let’s get some money 💰 paid to these poor old age pensioners that’s worked all there life’s and been burgled and robbed by the addicts to this stuff
Irish Barry mcguigan who fought for Britain instead of Ireland was happy getting paid until he was caught stealing money...fact .. with his son Shane cuaght red-handed stealing money..bitterness is his best friend
what are you talking about?
@@perceptortron shows you know know nothing..🤫
Lads why no Andy Lee in awhile? Loved him on the show big fan in general but was always disappointed on his non-verbal around the subject but freely spoke about injustice and integrity on other such issues!
Never bite the hand that feeds you
@@jamesodriscoll6748 seems so doesn’t matter what hand it is😂
Followed Fury for a long time despite all the contraindications.
For people genuine fans of someone like Lee pity to have such an asterisk!
Not the only on though Conlans are prob the worst of the Irish bunch…..Katie seems to be the only one who resisted and can walk around with her head high!
@@briangardiner1814 to be honest it was his comeback and the back story that had me intrigued
@@briangardiner1814 , You got to remember when her dad got shot and another boxer was killed in her dads boxing gym. Its probably connected to what you said.
Andy lee is a yes man
Pablo Escobar never sold Heroin like Kinahan.
IMHO: The Kinahan Cartel have already made the appropriate moves anticipating what these people are talking about here ? Just like El Chapo and the CDS Cartel, someone takes out a top lieutenant and he's replaced in a few short weeks !
The scarface analogy 🤦🏾♂️🤣
One person done over a billion dollar vat scam and still lives in Dubai. UAE ain't gonna extradite its residents
They wont
@@eoinlane6334 yeh not to Ireland. This is the Americans we’re talking about here. If they want him they’ll get him
The Kinahan Patsy's are still singing from the same hymn sheet. Fury can say a prayer for Daniel. Frampton can visit his benefactor. Take him some tobacco.
I dont know if kinehan will find any drug 4 that headache..?!
always wondered who done Jamie...
Since Christi Kinahan speaks fluent Russian - and Russia right now is not in love with the USA - if I were the Kinahans I would go to Russia
Where was Paul Williams when Veronica was doing it all well????
I cant belive williams still gets air time after the role he played in the penalty points scandal
what ya mean? I couldnt be arsed googlin it...
@Val O'Connell Gee , I wish I was as clever as you.
hes not been to court yet ? hes not been nicked for anything but u have him guilt. 😎
Savage mode unlocked lol
Marvin Herbert says that Daniel Kinahan is a good man...I take his word for it...🙄
A role model
Dirty DIRTY MONEY
Money is still money
If he’s finished in the boxing game what are his alternatives?go back to the drug game ?is that what you want smh.If he’s wanted why haven’t the UAE extradited him?
I like fury and all he has done but if what there saying is true about kinahan then fury who claims to be a born again Christian is playing with Gods name! Like if you want to be part of all this with Kinahan then certainly leave Gods name out of it, ive read elsewhere that daniel claims to be a man of God then if this is all true about him then thats mocking God to the highest! Very dangerous game
Paul Williams Should Check out Paddy Brennan Parkwest his Kinahan bagman Fact and bomber Kavnagh right had man the Dry cleaner man Stevens green Town X Drimnagh Head
What use would a European Arrest Warrent be in the UAE ?
America doesn't give a fkuk for all that they will come for him ,nobody can stop them the world's police force .
Have some cough medicine
Boxing was always gangster Don King murdered 2 people
Is this fella calling from a Nokia? Jesus can barely hear him
@@robovac3557 leave him have it..
Nokia 3210/ 3310 were hard to Bate back in the day hi. They’d go for about a month on a single charge and you’d need a wrecking ball to break them. 😂
Paul Williams biggest crook this country ever seen
Another will step into his shoes of course.
You can never decide to stop trafficking drugs and the next day to go ligit
Williams is hard to listen to The man has an ego bigger that the kinahan drug empire,referring to McGuigan like he's some great guy in Boxing. Far from it, he was accused in the High Court of ripping his own boxers off to the tune of millions. Didn't see or hear much oof Paul in Belfast covering that story.
Who funded frampton and Taylor to world champions ? Yes mcguigan payed for everything for them they be nothing without the mcguigan family
There’s a difference. Williams isnt a criminal…..
This Paul Williams sounds like a jealous ex girlfriend carrying round a grudge!
Williams does talk a lot of Rubbish, never hear such nonsense in all my life.
Why don't they arrest him then
They can't. He's in Dubai.
DK Supposedly Never sleeps 🛌 in the same Bed twice 💃💃💃
Say hello to my little friend
*uae CAN'T Extradite daniel kinahan to the US cause uae doesn't have extradition treaty with us. But as we all have seen uae still Extradite people to the US even though uae doesn't have extradition treaty with us*
@Huw Evans *maybe Daniel has already left uae and gone to Russia or North korea or ecuador*
@Huw Evans *you do realise that Daniel kinahan already knew about this 2 or 3 years ago which means he would have already made adjustments and setup other company under different names and id they are very smart one step ahead they already have a head start 3 years ago plan a plan b and c* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Huw Evans *the government is focusing on mtk global, but if he is what they say allegedly? It means that when they focused on one company they have 10 or 20 different company that they don't know about so nothing has changed or effected*
@Huw Evans *it's a spider Web when they think they have one thing. But they really don't* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Huw Evans *if he is what they say he is allegedly is. And has had a 3 years head start. They haven't really done anything cause they are only focused on one company. When it's actually a spider Web of different company's* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is just me or is Paul Williams still time travelling 🤔 ?
Not sure what this means but if you are saying this guy is more than just a little scatterbrained and seems to have only the shallowest of understanding which he has trouble answering some pretty basic questions with more than what one might expect from the average house wife who watched evening news than I agree
Is this guy supposed to have some special insight into this story?
Any cough medicine for Paul?
He could go to russia?
Yeah, kick back with Putin, he hates the yanks.
Ye a gulag in siberia preferably
Dam Daniel 5 million on your head in a country where everyone will be looking to cash in.hate that
What and the WBC President gets to continue his cartel dealings. US doesn't like when their money leaves the country
Paul Williams is this guy not a busted flush? After the Maurice mcCabe stuff. He just is not credible.
He's a great man god bless him
Dan the man
Which god?
@@DeeJay-sk6ue The God off Boxing 🥊🇮🇪🥊
Daniel will just get given up by his family, he can take the rap, end up in a supermax jail.
Impossible 5m a man they are all for the plank
@Anything Goes Videos they’ve no charges, the Americans will find charges, to give him 20 years. Plus 10X100 years on top.
@Anything Goes Videos you think 🤔 proof matter’s, ask saddam.
@Anything Goes Videos no chance Ireland has had chances to nail him ,America won't take any more chances with him like others have said ,they will just come one day yank special forces in helicopters and extract him ,he l never be seen again .
@Anything Goes Videos haven't watched any only clips on news how it goes down .
Fury the biggest cheater n boxing history can put nothing pass him.. Bob is scared of the mob boss Daniel he pay him for fury fights.. They let fury wear no padding gloves again wilder .
Proof?
I hear Moscow is a good spot
Sun tan for 8mths/yr difficult... weather?
@@williamrae9954 south russia by the black sea is hotter than everywhere in western europe.
@@SI-cd7xs same temperature as Glasgow, Scotland, we had 12C last week...hardly 29C Denia Spain, like I had last Xmas
Ben shalom got out of jail with this one
*who knows maybe Daniel kinahan has already left and gone to ecuador or Russia or even north korea*
He's is Dubai.
@@TommyRetailarmy *not really approximately 14 days ago he was in Pakistan there's a picture of him there* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mike brown friend of mine saw him in a golf club in Dubai on Monday
@@keithburke652 *that means his back. But as we speak his gone*
@@TommyRetailarmy he won't get out of dubai
Rather go to prison in Europe then to America, he needs to make a deal. Imagine spending 30 years in an American prison like El Chapo and you can never go ligit. Can't stay in Dubai cause they will send you to America it's all about politics
Never mind the kinehans they should move a little closer to home and arrest the Bidens
The real gangsters are leading the country.
Get a grip you tool .
It's obvious that you don't care about boxing as you say
Don't matter how many times you take a cartel down, another will rise 👍
What’s the answer then
@@vincenthigginbotham8729 fix humanity mindset and stop their ego need to be millionares and have power for whatever it takes taking other peoples lives
To young to remember scar face?….how young does he think those two are 😂
Especially the geezer on the left
@@libbad7419 yeah Paul Williams completely off his box
We never forget we never forgive expect us We Are Legion we recognize no borders we judge we are from the net #bossdarko Ø divided by zerØ
Fury has no shame, Kinihan is pure evil but Williams has no credibility
They get replaced
Paul a mushroom
No respect for Tyson drug money
Paul is a known liar . Facts
This guy is impossible to listen to. He takes 80 words to say something that could be said in 5 and even then he doesn’t complete the thought.
Most terrible interview I’ve listened to in a while. For a “journalists” he didn’t seem to know much about the information he was asked about and tried to talk around what became obvious, he just didn’t do his homework on the subject and it showed.
Kinihan has a Krippled Krainium
#1 Albania 🇦🇱
If the UAE extradite him then many others will leave. Won't happen
The US can apply a substantial amount of pressure on the UAE government and they will eventually break..
@@kevonslims7269 No they won’t lol, UAE supports the US in oil. They’re not going to sever this relationship because of the Kinahan’s
@Anything Goes Videos I think you’re the naive one, the Security of the UAE is the US, they sell them weapons and an intelligence apparatus, the US can simply put the UAE on the terror list and all their tourists will dry up, the can sanction their oil and then what. You have no idea how the world works.. you think The UAE will stick their neck’s out for kanihan?
Ye them presenters look so young to remember scarface wtf one them looks about 50
what an outfit this lot are😮