Ain’t it cool to see the underdog become the industry LEADER when it comes to making phenomenal PERFORMANCE products….And by doing it the “old fashioned” way! Thanks buddy for sharing this with us all. And I don’t know if Lloyd will see this comment or not but as a military veteran and an owner of Lloyd’s products I personally 🫡 you and your whole crew for doing all y’all do.
As a Harley guy, listening to this is like screening your wife's next husband knowing he's going to do things you just can't do. Sounds like one hell of a product for the Challenger/Pursuit folks!
So cool ! Thank you for the update, as I did not get the word from Lloyd'z. Will go looking for numbers now, but surely a increase over Indian/S&S stage 2 cams. Will be waiting for a report from someone who's had them installed.
Great interview. I miss going down to Indian of Charlotte but we’ve both moved away from that area. Coastal Iron in Murrels Inlet, SC is not far from me now and they do a great job there. I think they are affiliated with Lloyd’s.
Would’ve loved to heard more on the horsepower and torque numbers!! But what he said the gains you would get from a stock pipe definitely caught my attention would love to know what kind of gains you would get with aftermarket set up!!!
Stu’s Motorcycles in Fort Myers? They are recently a Lloydz Tuning Center… are they a CAM Source now… and how is the Tune going on for the 2023 Challenger DarkHorse?
I've talked about my two bikes many times on you tube. I own a 2013 Victory Boardwalk. The bike has had lloydz torque tubes, lloydz vm1 cams, timing gear, pcv and long shotgun pipes. I recently installed a set of conquest customs ground pounders and used the map that Mr. Kietzman sent me and this thing flipping thumps. I wanna sell my k1600b and get a challenger just so I can customize and install lloydz cams.
That is a dealer shirt ha was available for the better part off 2022. Ask your local dealer if they’re still available I suppose. I think my dealer is out.
Well we tried to focus on the cams, not sure what you mean by ECU inscription. As far as the intake goes they do recommend the K&N or S&S air filter with the cams.
@TwoIndians what we are hearing is 23 can't take an aftermarket tune because Indian changed the encryption on the 2023 challengers and pursuits according to mad monkey
so, according to "those in the know", it is indeed an issue but its not isolated to Indian/Polaris, it affects all vehicles with BOSCH ECU's. which means that the entire world of automotive and moto-sport technicians is working on it.
Funny Lloyd said the 2019 springs are the same as the old ones. When the stock spring in my 2017 chieftain failed with Lloyd’s 558 cams. I side by side compared the new springs to the old.b They were VERY CLEARLY DIFFERENT. The new ones were heavier. I’m not convinced he is being truthful.
so, according to "those in the know", it is indeed an issue but its not isolated to Indian/Polaris, it affects all vehicles with BOSCH ECU's. which means that the entire world of automotive and moto-sport technicians is working on it.
I reached out to Amanda a few months ago about cams and a tune during Sturgis. She said she hadn’t started scheduling yet and she’d get back to me when she starts scheduling. Never heard back from her again. They’re almost booked full now? Hmm
Ain’t it cool to see the underdog become the industry LEADER when it comes to making phenomenal PERFORMANCE products….And by doing it the “old fashioned” way! Thanks buddy for sharing this with us all. And I don’t know if Lloyd will see this comment or not but as a military veteran and an owner of Lloyd’s products I personally 🫡 you and your whole crew for doing all y’all do.
As a Harley guy, listening to this is like screening your wife's next husband knowing he's going to do things you just can't do. Sounds like one hell of a product for the Challenger/Pursuit folks!
Well, we’ll find out when I get back. Looking to see if there’s a second gear locator upgrade I can do as well. 🤣🤣🤣
It's insane Indian Motorcycle of Sturgis isn't part of this. Great dealership but this would make them phenomenal!!!
My appointment to get the Lloydz cams, CNC'ed intake, and tune is scheduled for the last weekend at Sturgis. Super stoked!
Nice vid B! Looking forward to the ride to Sturgis! 10 days baby! Then 10 days of great riding.
Awesome video Mr. Two.
Great interview very informative.
So cool !
Thank you for the update, as I did not get the word from Lloyd'z. Will go looking for numbers now, but surely a increase over Indian/S&S stage 2 cams. Will be waiting for a report from someone who's had them installed.
I’ll have them on my bike in about three weeks so you will be the first to know.
140+ hp at the tire.
I’ll have my by next Friday done
@UnrulyRider no way? 140????
Great interview. I miss going down to Indian of Charlotte but we’ve both moved away from that area. Coastal Iron in Murrels Inlet, SC is not far from me now and they do a great job there. I think they are affiliated with Lloyd’s.
Extremely cool👍
Brian where do I get the splitter for my adaptive headlight?
Would’ve loved to heard more on the horsepower and torque numbers!! But what he said the gains you would get from a stock pipe definitely caught my attention would love to know what kind of gains you would get with aftermarket set up!!!
I think because every bike is different he’s hesitant to really talk about specific numbers but when I get back you can bet I’ll have numbers for you.
Stu’s Motorcycles in Fort Myers? They are recently a Lloydz Tuning Center… are they a CAM Source now… and how is the Tune going on for the 2023 Challenger DarkHorse?
The 2023 Bosch ecu has not been cracked yet. It’s not just Indian’s ecu, they’re used in a lot of vehicles and none of them have been cracked
Re: Independent shops -- I have found that the local shop is much preferred for quality work over ANY of the Indian dealerships in Houston.
As they say, your mileage may vary.
I've talked about my two bikes many times on you tube. I own a 2013 Victory Boardwalk. The bike has had lloydz torque tubes, lloydz vm1 cams, timing gear, pcv and long shotgun pipes. I recently installed a set of conquest customs ground pounders and used the map that Mr. Kietzman sent me and this thing flipping thumps. I wanna sell my k1600b and get a challenger just so I can customize and install lloydz cams.
Hey your shirt is cool…where did u get it?
That is a dealer shirt ha was available for the better part off 2022. Ask your local dealer if they’re still available I suppose. I think my dealer is out.
How about addressing the elephant in the room. The 2023 ECM inscription? Another question is Lloyd mentioned a an intake, tell us more about that?
Well we tried to focus on the cams, not sure what you mean by ECU inscription. As far as the intake goes they do recommend the K&N or S&S air filter with the cams.
@TwoIndians what we are hearing is 23 can't take an aftermarket tune because Indian changed the encryption on the 2023 challengers and pursuits according to mad monkey
@@johngonzales8224 really? I never heard that. Have you reached out to Lloyds or RVS to verify this? I'll def ask Lloyd about this
so, according to "those in the know", it is indeed an issue but its not isolated to Indian/Polaris, it affects all vehicles with BOSCH ECU's. which means that the entire world of automotive and moto-sport technicians is working on it.
@@TwoIndians RVS posted that on facebook a few weeks ago.
Funny Lloyd said the 2019 springs are the same as the old ones. When the stock spring in my 2017 chieftain failed with Lloyd’s 558 cams. I side by side compared the new springs to the old.b They were VERY CLEARLY DIFFERENT. The new ones were heavier. I’m not convinced he is being truthful.
That is curious. I don’t have enough first hand experience to know the difference so I’ll let you cage match it out like Elon and Zuck
you forgot to ask the question we've all been waiting for... were they able to break into the ECU?
so, according to "those in the know", it is indeed an issue but its not isolated to Indian/Polaris, it affects all vehicles with BOSCH ECU's. which means that the entire world of automotive and moto-sport technicians is working on it.
I reached out to Amanda a few months ago about cams and a tune during Sturgis. She said she hadn’t started scheduling yet and she’d get back to me when she starts scheduling. Never heard back from her again. They’re almost booked full now? Hmm
people have been on a list for over year I guess. egt in touch with her!