Secularism and Ulema in India [Urdu]

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2020
  • Is secularism the same as atheism? If so, why do ulema and Islamic scholars in India defend secularism?

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  • @irfanhabib903
    @irfanhabib903 2 роки тому +12

    Very well explained. Here’s the situation; Muslims, or any other minority in a community, understands the importance of secular values in a society. Even the Muslims of Pakistan support secularism when they migrate to a non-Muslim country. They do it in principle, though they may not be aware of it. Unfortunately they refuse to accept this in Pakistan. I agree though that it is mostly due to their misunderstanding of the term and to some extent their hypocrisy.

    • @burhanahmad2825
      @burhanahmad2825 Рік тому

      False. Just because they "support secularism" in another country in not hypocrisy. Let me divide this into two points.
      1- They don't "support secularism" it's what they get and thus will make sure to get the liberties that it gives (which are inline with the Islamic ideology). This does not mean they agree with the ideology but that they have to submit to it as "the law of the land"
      2- It's only natural that a person would think of his/her benefits. For example any Muslim India would want a secular India over a hindhu nationalist India. But this does not mean they would not want a Islamic India over a secular India. It's just that it's the a realistic possibilty and thus something is better than nothing

    • @YRS24
      @YRS24 19 днів тому

      @@burhanahmad2825so we should forcefully convert all Muslims in non Muslims countries because they have this secret agenda? 🤔

  • @shorthandtricks9643
    @shorthandtricks9643 3 роки тому +9

    Sir assalam o alikum
    I love your videos a lot. I learnt much from this channel. It opened the doors of my brain. It led me to think in a new way. My thinking was radical, anti-development of society, conservative and much more. I did not want to listen and a talk about a single word about secularism, communism, nationalism and liberalism etc. But after knowing their meanings and explanations now I don't debate against them in gathering with friends.
    Sir keep your struggle in the same way. I am enjoying your videos a lot because I am preparing for CSS exam.
    I also request you to make videos on IR Topics. It would help me and other more students.
    Thank you sir.

    • @meetshah1892
      @meetshah1892 3 роки тому +4

      It is very brave of you to admit to your faults. Few people can do that.

  • @manjeevvishvkarma3575
    @manjeevvishvkarma3575 3 роки тому +13

    Great sir...
    Here in india we call it 'positive secularism' or 'Hindustaniat' - secularism & humanism(insaniyat/ manavata) in the land of religions and religious being...
    Thanks sir .. really I love watching

    • @kewalsabharwal4324
      @kewalsabharwal4324 3 роки тому

      K

    • @bhnuc
      @bhnuc 2 роки тому

      Kashmiriyat bhi jod deta isme. Jahan teachers ko hindu sikh hone ke karan alag karke maar diya gaya.

  • @hereticmorte666
    @hereticmorte666 3 роки тому +9

    We need to support people who support pluralism. Indian Ulemas who support Secularism need support.

    • @Historystudent882
      @Historystudent882 3 роки тому

      And those ulema of Pakistan who call islami mulk Pakistan need to be chopped

  • @dafaizi
    @dafaizi 3 роки тому +20

    Taimur saheb, keep this going. We can all be religious, if we want to, but the state shouldn't. Love from Allahabad. Most of the maulvis in India ACTUALLY believe in secularism in my experience. They value the love and harmony between Hindus and Hindis (muslims). I love my Pakistani people but just like the state of Israel, it seems like it was a 'psy-op' by the Brits in order to keep India divided and stressed ad infinitum.

    • @meetshah1892
      @meetshah1892 3 роки тому +7

      The Maulvis believe in secularism because the Muslims are a minority. If Muslims were the majority, these maulanas without any doubt would advocate the implementation of Sharia law. Maulanas are no different from the right wing Hindus, just that in the latter case they want a Hindu state instead of an Islamic one.

    • @RD-pp9ds
      @RD-pp9ds 3 роки тому +1

      @@meetshah1892 secularism for Indian maulanas mean freedom to give triple talak, freedom to have 4 wives, freedom to have sharia courts etc
      Taimoor Rahman is taking whatever these maulanas say at face value and hailing them as preachers of secularism which is extremely stupid!
      Even RSS leader Mohan Bhagwat said that Hindutva is incomplete without muslims. Hence proved RSS is secular!

    • @zainulseema455
      @zainulseema455 3 роки тому

      Read surah maida sir esp ayah number 44 to 47 don't see these so called scholars from jih anf jamiath

    • @mohdshariq5814
      @mohdshariq5814 Рік тому

      It's prayagraj now farooqui ji

  • @sanobartuba
    @sanobartuba 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so very much for covering this topic. Loving more from you in India about India and politics

  • @notzul7138
    @notzul7138 3 роки тому +20

    Secularism in INDIA 💜❤️😘🥰💋💗😇🤩
    Secularism in Pakistan 💩🤭🤢🤮🤧🤕😷😡
    -50 shades of Ullema

  • @creamperson9135
    @creamperson9135 3 роки тому +2

    Great vid as always, sir!
    I was wondering if you planned on making another vid on PTI and economics of Naya Pakistan. I’d love to hear your thoughts now that another year has past.

  • @shafiqrehman4255
    @shafiqrehman4255 3 роки тому +3

    Dear Sir,
    I realized one thing that when u r in a condition with less power then u can make accord with groups which we normally consider a rivalry like in misaq e Medina. But when u r in power then u can implement Islamic codes.

  • @ehrjdjbshfhsh4619
    @ehrjdjbshfhsh4619 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you sir ap ny concept clear kr dea & ap ka smjhany ka mathed bhi exclent hy

  • @syedghiyas9335
    @syedghiyas9335 3 роки тому +20

    Good see that you people are talking about we Indian Muslims.

  • @ghungrooseth1946
    @ghungrooseth1946 3 роки тому +9

    Taimur Sir please start adding keywords to you videos so that more people can find them.

    • @salmanmohsin234
      @salmanmohsin234 3 роки тому +1

      Ghungroo seth🤔😁😄??
      really??hahaha. you are great sir.

  • @andreikalashnikov4861
    @andreikalashnikov4861 3 роки тому +7

    The reason Indian Jamaat is emphasizing so much on secularism and constitutionalism is because they are smaller in numbers. Had they been a majority in India they would have demanded nothing short of Shariya laws. This is just a survival tactic

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +8

      True. But a survival tactic that proves that secularism preserves the freedom of religious worship.

    • @swapanzameen6302
      @swapanzameen6302 3 роки тому +2

      @@Taimur_Laal
      He's a closet Sanghi.

  • @hamzaimran7086
    @hamzaimran7086 3 роки тому +21

    Mullah and hypocrisy are synonymous, they love secularism in India and abhore the same in Pakistan, and their argument in support of their double standards is that Indian constitution is secular whereas Pakistan constitution is Islamic.

    • @shuvadipsinha9513
      @shuvadipsinha9513 3 роки тому +1

      @md kaifiReally Muslim persecution in India?? Look at the persecution of minorities in Pakistan.
      www.uscirf.gov/news-room/releases-statements/uscirf-troubled-denial-food-aid-pakistani-hindus-and-christians
      gulfnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/gulfnews.com/amp/opinion/op-eds/rape-of-5-year-old-marwa-and-a-mother-of-three-in-pakistan-the-cycle-of-unimaginable-cruelty-continues-1.1599826215652?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16018924763648&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fgulfnews.com%2Fopinion%2Fop-eds%2Frape-of-5-year-old-marwa-and-a-mother-of-three-in-pakistan-the-cycle-of-unimaginable-cruelty-continues-1.1599826215652
      www.dawn.com/news/1378009
      www-samaa-tv.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.samaa.tv/news/2020/08/karachi-lyari-pre-partition-hindu-temple-demolished/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16018925767289&_ct=1601892646649&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.samaa.tv%2Fnews%2F2020%2F08%2Fkarachi-lyari-pre-partition-hindu-temple-demolished%2F
      www.dawn.com/news/1098452
      www-voanews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.voanews.com/south-central-asia/pakistani-police-demolish-mosque-minority-ahmadi-sect?amp&usqp=mq331AQRKAGYAfvro6uEorusoAGwASA%3D&_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.voanews.com%2Fsouth-central-asia%2Fpakistani-police-demolish-mosque-minority-ahmadi-sect%3Famp%23referrer%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com
      www.dawn.com/news/791491/125-christian-houses-burnt-over-blasphemy
      These articles are from Pakistani, Gulf and American Newspapers not from Indian sources. Now would you condemn these incidents like we Indians condemned the destruction of Babri Mosque. As an Indian I have the courage to stand out against the injustice done to my people. Would you speak up against the injustice done to Asia Bibi??Does it not break your heart when you hear these incidents in your country?? After all as you just said we are humans at the end of the day I am just asking you.

    • @nitishsaxena1372
      @nitishsaxena1372 3 роки тому

      @md kaifi secularism means the state should be secular, it doesn't necessitates the citizens to be secular in their personal lives.

    • @Xaviergonzalez85
      @Xaviergonzalez85 3 роки тому +1

      @@nitishsaxena1372 what if state forces secularism on you??? That should not happen in india but also shouldn't be happening in Pakistan!!! Balance that.

  • @ChefbyMistake
    @ChefbyMistake 3 роки тому +1

    I am your fan Sir since 5 years good to see you on UA-cam :)

  • @alishbahsaeed2246
    @alishbahsaeed2246 3 роки тому +6

    Great job... good definition of secularism...

  • @MuhammadHassan-mr7uu
    @MuhammadHassan-mr7uu 3 роки тому +1

    Sir please make Playlists . So we can easily find tour videos on specific topic

  • @TheMuslimDuniya
    @TheMuslimDuniya Місяць тому +1

    Oh that was shocking to know. Thanks for give us ilm . ❤

  • @aliasgharjaffri3916
    @aliasgharjaffri3916 3 роки тому +2

    Really liked your new expression with mixed sarcasm 🤩

  • @zainmorgan5241
    @zainmorgan5241 3 роки тому +1

    Fabulous ! Explanation Sir , if I'm not a part of political science but to lesson your's lectures that made my mind very comprehensive and extensive .
    Sir a big groud of appluases for you .
    I'm a literary my mean that , doing English literature .

  • @AhmedAli-nj5pq
    @AhmedAli-nj5pq 3 роки тому +3

    Very good sir, issi tarah videos banaya karein khaas kr css pey, q k hum LUMS mey tou nahi ja saktey. Sir please just focus on css related videos.

  • @JenChaeLiSoo4
    @JenChaeLiSoo4 3 роки тому +5

    ❤️Secularism
    ❤️Indo-Pak Brotherhood
    ❤️Socialism

  • @salmanmohsin234
    @salmanmohsin234 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Sir, thanks for explaining.
    I have a question.
    if definition of 'secularism' is something that you explained then on the base of this, in secular state definitions of majority/minority need to be different. I mean why then we characterise groups on the base of religion and count them as minority and majority, if religion has no relation with state

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +5

      Correct. In a truly secular state religious distinction would become irrelevant.

  • @hameed-kakar
    @hameed-kakar 3 роки тому +1

    Sir plz elaborate the word "independence" in the text that you attributes to the JUH.
    Which independence was took place that time in 1919 at which muslims were supposed to entered upon contract with Hindus???????
    Plz i am not getting the point properly

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +1

      JUH was created in 1919. Independence took place in 1947.

    • @hameed-kakar
      @hameed-kakar 3 роки тому

      Tnx

  • @sohailahmed9580
    @sohailahmed9580 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you and love you from India🇮🇳

  • @naveedyousaf9001
    @naveedyousaf9001 3 роки тому +3

    Sir plz discuss this topic in detail in pakistan context. And how to deal with serious issues as well as the Objective Resolution..we as lay man and being as muslims are unable ti disentangle the intricate relationship between islam, a religion of complete code of conduct of life, and secularism.. How can we make a law repugnant to islamic injunctions. I am not radical Islamist nor i object secularism.

    • @naveedyousaf9001
      @naveedyousaf9001 3 роки тому

      And in India the case may be of the majority and the minority. However in pakistan the case is opposite. Moreover, the Treaty of madina was of wholly different nature.

  • @rimshaaaiza9407
    @rimshaaaiza9407 3 роки тому +2

    Pakistan need more people like you most importantly Muslim needs more people like you

  • @rezwanhadeed1349
    @rezwanhadeed1349 3 роки тому

    Sir G shayri mashriq.nay jo farmaya us k kya...? Qoom mazham say hay mazhab jo nahi tum b nahi ......plz explain...

  • @ishaqyalee87
    @ishaqyalee87 3 роки тому +1

    Please suggest me some best books for lecturer political science please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please

  • @akashmarium6396
    @akashmarium6396 3 роки тому

    Aslam o Alikum sir, Secular subjects konse hoty h jo kise bh islami madarsa mein teach key jty ha?

  • @CSS-in-Points
    @CSS-in-Points 3 роки тому +1

    Very well sir ...outstanding.

  • @tariqfate9350
    @tariqfate9350 3 роки тому +1

    very informatic vidieo

  • @AhmadKhan-js4xh
    @AhmadKhan-js4xh 2 роки тому +2

    Main Di Khan jaise conservative ilake mein rehta hoon yahan agar Maine kah diya ki main secular Hun to log meri jaan hi le lenge 🤣🤣🤣

    • @gujjar-gorsi_2k24
      @gujjar-gorsi_2k24 11 місяців тому

      Dera Ismail Khan & Taank.....
      Agar Panjaab mn rehta to itna conservative naa hota

  • @arhamnasir8317
    @arhamnasir8317 3 роки тому

    Taimur bhai ap ne bari achi tara explain kia ha .way of your speaking is impressive. mera sawal ye ha ke dunyia ki aik maroof secular state ne halia dino ma aik khas mazhab ku target kerte huwe ju initiative lia ha us ku tu aik side pe kerden lakin bad ma France ke PM ka reply ju show ker raha ha ke politics aur religion is not separated yet in France and according to their law all citizens regardless of their origin, race or religion are treated as equals before the law and respecting all religious beliefs. Laws tu hamare ider bhi bohat se bana howe han. muje umeed ha ke ap muje is ke bare ma guide karen gae ke kia masla ha aur kiun kisi bhi ur secular state ne aur kisi secular shask ne ye tak nahi kaha ke ye galat ha aur france secularism ku badnam ker raha ha, take ma un logo ku bata sakon ju ab muj se hanste howe pochte han ke kahan gae secular ?.

  • @madihasohail4990
    @madihasohail4990 3 роки тому +9

    Sir you really know the art of pedagogy and how to elaborate in a humorous way.Thank you for this insight

  • @Smearning133
    @Smearning133 Рік тому

    Thank you sir mind blowing information ❤❤

  • @AzharKhan-jh2ob
    @AzharKhan-jh2ob 3 роки тому +1

    Very Nice Taimur Sir...Please make few more video in Indian Muslims context we lack such voices here.
    Love from India

    • @sagarlohana1989
      @sagarlohana1989 3 роки тому +1

      And what about Pakistani hindus

    • @mul-el3657
      @mul-el3657 2 роки тому

      @@sagarlohana1989 he’s a Marxist. His entire reasoning behind these videos is to educate Pakistanis and establish secular socialist republic. And hey, did you know Pakistani Hindus have grown at a faster pace than Indian Hindus. Here in my city, Karachi (though I’m an ethnic Baloch from Quetta), you’ll find over a 100 Hindu temples? Don’t listen to your times now or Republic TV/Bharat, actually look from the civil perspective.

    • @sagarlohana1989
      @sagarlohana1989 2 роки тому +1

      @@mul-el3657 100 temples in karachi. Please share link (that being said from a reliable source). Anyway let's believe it without link/evidence for now but still I don't even want to start thinking what a horrible condition the mandirs will be in. I've seen images of mandirs in Pakistan or to put it more correctly the renovated mandirs of Pakistan and its just awful. Your talking about 100 so called temples in karachi well not even in a hundred years will karachi have a temple like delhi has a mosque like jama mosque or like taj-ul in bhopal. Just the construction of one (and first) mandir in islamabad shaked entire Pakistan and slogans that 'deen khatrey M hai' and then fake people like you talking big and trying to make out as if Pakistan is just as secular and liberal as most western countries and like India.

  • @sadbergalam
    @sadbergalam Рік тому

    Theek hai phr konsa kanon best hoga? Which one is the best kanon

  • @harmitdhaduk7092
    @harmitdhaduk7092 3 роки тому +3

    Muje urdu jyada smaj nhi aati tabhi sir ki explanation dekhke samjne ki puri kosis karta hu 👍,Me gujarati hu basically

    • @sagarlohana1989
      @sagarlohana1989 3 роки тому +1

      Oh gujarat, the most progressive state of india.. Right😁

    • @ANUP_YADAV830
      @ANUP_YADAV830 Рік тому +1

      Gujarat!
      From Indian🇮🇳 state of Guj or Pak🇵🇰 city of Guj?

    • @gujjar-gorsi_2k24
      @gujjar-gorsi_2k24 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@ANUP_YADAV830gujrati is 🇮🇳 language.
      🇵🇰 Gujrat speaks Panjaabi

  • @saadisial0025
    @saadisial0025 3 роки тому +1

    Love the new dynamic, vibrant way of starting video sir...💞 😊

  • @lol8q
    @lol8q 10 місяців тому

    When minority then demand secularism
    When once majority No secularism 😮

  • @khalidmustafa7844
    @khalidmustafa7844 3 роки тому +3

    Allama Iqbal s famous quote deen e mullah fasaad e fe sabillilah

  • @danishiqbal09
    @danishiqbal09 3 роки тому +1

    Taimur sb, I would nudge you towards Irfan Ahmad's Islamism and Democracy in this regard. That will tell you why we should not be surprised. JIH and similar postures by other organisations is what political theory mandates when it is set in motion in its interaction with the state. I am sure you will also incorporate a more nuanced analysis that has come in the wake of the works of Tala Asad, Saba Mahmood etc Humeira Iqtedar too has worked in the context of Pakistan. thanks.

  • @adv.fidahussainwazir2902
    @adv.fidahussainwazir2902 3 роки тому +2

    You are aware of reality but yeah, it is good way of attracting people.

  • @salimx
    @salimx 3 роки тому +2

    professor sb bhit acchha kaam kar rahe hain allah khush rakhe.

  • @RahatAli-qx2ld
    @RahatAli-qx2ld 3 роки тому +1

    I really want to meet with u sir but I'm from sukkur it's very difficult to visit Lahore 😢

  • @mustafaal-husayni6864
    @mustafaal-husayni6864 3 роки тому +2

    In some of your videos earlier as well you were not able to pronounce Jamiat Ulama e Hind Rather you were saying Jamiat Ulama e 'Ehl' e Hind 😂😂😂

  • @iqrarasool1239
    @iqrarasool1239 3 роки тому +3

    Yes, I have same views but,does secular mean to adopt modernim(western culture) which pollute our indigenous culture?
    Does secular mean to put your religious golden teachings set aside and follow trending and modern clothes, life style and hate religious intelligentsia etc?
    Secular model of democracy in Turkey during Ataturk era, promoted the real meaning but also introduced measures to eliminate the orthodox concept of wearing religious outfits and a man was not allowed to have religious affiliations etc.
    Plz help me to clear my query.
    I will wait for your reply with agog.
    Thanks.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому

      No we don’t have to adopt Western culture. We are not Europeans. We are who we are.

    • @iqrarasool1239
      @iqrarasool1239 3 роки тому

      @@Taimur_Laal Thanks a bunch🤗🤗🤗

    • @71espn
      @71espn 3 роки тому

      Even arab culture is western to us and harmful to indigenous culture

    • @theoutpost3608
      @theoutpost3608 3 роки тому +1

      What happend in Turkey is termed as kemalism which means to develop you need to modernise and westernise both. Definately you dont need to westernise in order to modernise.

    • @theoutpost3608
      @theoutpost3608 3 роки тому

      @@71espn who said that arab culture is dangerous to indigenous culture?

  • @mrhaks2043
    @mrhaks2043 3 роки тому +1

    Great sir❤

  • @funandcolors3459
    @funandcolors3459 2 роки тому +2

    Sir, most of the time, we've listened to the argument that our Prophet (P.B.U.H) connected religion and politics to form the Riyasat-e-Madina. So, what's the counter-narrative for it?

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  2 роки тому +2

      Handing power to clergy in Pakistan today is tantamount to giving power to people strongly associated with the Jagirdari nizam. That will roll back the wheel of history.

    • @kalsoommalik7408
      @kalsoommalik7408 2 роки тому +1

      @@Taimur_Laal thankyou sir

  • @ahmedhussain6298
    @ahmedhussain6298 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir🙏

  • @rajaabro260
    @rajaabro260 3 роки тому +1

    MashAllah great sir 😍😍

  • @sajjadrasool2838
    @sajjadrasool2838 3 роки тому +1

    Love you Guruji..

  • @muhammadtayyab79
    @muhammadtayyab79 3 роки тому +4

    Sir Turkey ki history par lecture upload karay .Thanks

  • @creativeaxis4078
    @creativeaxis4078 3 роки тому +2

    Whaaa Dabur Duz kardiya mulaaO ko💖💖💖😘
    Please tell about Iran
    Make some video about it
    It seems theocratic state
    But it is giving rights to all religion in its parliament they have seats
    Plus we don't see proper capitalism or communism being followed there
    Please put some light on it

    • @heyyo6050
      @heyyo6050 3 роки тому

      Ask the sunni's from Iran or look at the protests against hijab in Iran

  • @maqboollasani5376
    @maqboollasani5376 3 роки тому +1

    Sir bat yeh hy keh yaha secularism ki rejection pe kuch ulema ki dukan chal rahi hy. India me agr aisa na karen to inki being khatre me par jaigi.... Waha us ki acceptance zaroorat hy wqt ki.

  • @zoya4379
    @zoya4379 3 роки тому +7

    Great lecture 👍
    Your definition about secularism is correct but Indian state is not deal with the same concept of French secularism Indian government can interrupt between Religion & state if law & order is concerned, like triple talaq case, Masjids locked due to pandemic etc.
    Today I knew about My Indian Ulemas great thoughts about secularism because of you I still can't believe on My ears🤩 that they are so much liberal.
    Thanks a ton sir 💐😇

    • @meetshah1892
      @meetshah1892 3 роки тому +1

      The ulemas are not liberal. They say this because India is not a Muslim majority state. If they could implement Sharia law in India, they would. They are no different than the right wing Hindus who want a Hindu state.

    • @zoya4379
      @zoya4379 3 роки тому +1

      Comment deleted I don't know why but still I stand with My comment..👍

    • @SkyMonkeyDrum
      @SkyMonkeyDrum Рік тому

      Secularism toh atheism nahi hai mangaya...lekin Modi ko support karna, aur Masjido ko band karne meh khusi manana pakka Mulhideen hai.
      Aise larkiyo ke bacche bhi mulhid hote hai ya kissi aur mazhab ko follow karte hai.
      Aap apne iman ko mazbuut rakkhe

  • @Wasimshah127
    @Wasimshah127 7 місяців тому +2

    We want secularism in Pakistan 👍

  • @geeksatish8010
    @geeksatish8010 3 роки тому +1

    Muslimo minority me hote hai to secular ban jate hai majority me hote hai to kattar Islamist hote hai

  • @awaragardi4462
    @awaragardi4462 3 роки тому +9

    Finally i can relate Quaid e Azam approach pf constitution making. ❤🖤

  • @shahanshahpolonium
    @shahanshahpolonium 2 роки тому +3

    This is why we need UCC in India

  • @asadzee1
    @asadzee1 3 роки тому +4

    I think Taimur issues you raised, btw very well, can only be termed as “Pakistani Islam” a concoction of a class that wants to perpetually rule the poor masses of this artificial country.

  • @rayanahmad4529
    @rayanahmad4529 Рік тому

    Sir, what is your opinion on Ghamidi Sb's view on Secularism?

  • @kamransion4668
    @kamransion4668 3 роки тому +1

    Love you sir g...

  • @ikramahmed9012
    @ikramahmed9012 3 роки тому +8

    hahah in minority they support secularism and majority sharia.

  • @jollyyeholiver1578
    @jollyyeholiver1578 3 роки тому +3

    I understand you put titles in English for search results but could you please add an indicator for the actual language spoken during the video?
    As another question Janis varoufakis is suggesting some kind of global protest about the treatment of Julian Assange. I was thinking peoples of the world could boycott something British and America. Gandhi made salt... what do you think would be an effect area to protest the Assange case? A world boycott of British and American telecommunications services? I'm just thinking the boycott should relate to Assange in some way...

    • @adityamohan7366
      @adityamohan7366 3 роки тому +2

      The language used is Urdu/Hindustani for mainly Pakistani and Indian audiences. Comrade Taimur is from Pakistan so his content usually addresses regional and local issues which in this case is incorrect understanding of Secularism among Pakistani Ulema (religious scholars).

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +1

      I'm sorry about that. I should have made clear the video is in Urdu.

    • @jollyyeholiver1578
      @jollyyeholiver1578 3 роки тому +1

      @@Taimur_Laal it's ok. Do you have any thoughts on an effective Assange Protest? I think its clear only the people organising will be able to save him now. Well what's left of him after the torture and God knows what else the British and American establishments are doing to him.
      I don't want to put you on the spot just idea hunting, I think a global peoples boycott but I'm still not sure what would be most effective....

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому

      @@jollyyeholiver1578 no doubt.

  • @ammarbaligh4901
    @ammarbaligh4901 3 роки тому +2

    Although your analogies are very well thought but direct comparison with across the border is not correct, plus you cannot compare Christianity & Islam , the political aspirations in Islam are not that same as in Christianity

  • @mazharhussainjakhar
    @mazharhussainjakhar 3 роки тому +1

    Sir make videos on Muslim political thought..
    Allama Iqbal, Almawardi, Al farabi , ...

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +1

      Here you go. Follow the series on Muslim Philosophers ua-cam.com/video/ydQ3dS6pBVQ/v-deo.html

    • @mazharhussainjakhar
      @mazharhussainjakhar 3 роки тому +1

      @@Taimur_Laal Thanks a lot sir...

  • @shahhussainkhattak
    @shahhussainkhattak 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting video, but honestly I don't agree with your interpretation of secularism. It is understandable you want to present something in a more acceptable way for Pakistani viewers. But if you want to do justice to the topic, you should discuss all the broader aspects associated with secularism. I would quote two main sources here which can give the readers a true definition of secularism:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism
    Secularism may refer to any worldview or principle which defines the secular at a given context, and prioritizes, justifies or promotes it over the non-secular.[1][2] "Secularism" has a broad range of meaning. While its definition as the separation of religion from civic affairs and the state is the most common,[3] it may connote anticlericalism, atheism, naturalism, banishment of religious symbols from the public sphere and much more. As a philosophy, secularism seeks to interpret life on principles taken solely from the material world, without recourse to religion. It shifts the focus from religion towards "temporal" and material concerns.
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    Secularism may be categorized into two types, "hard" and "soft". "Hard" secularism considers religious propositions to be epistemologically illegitimate and seeks to deny them as much as possible. The "soft" variety emphasizes tolerance and liberalism.[9]
    www.britannica.com/topic/secularism
    Secularism, any movement in society directed away from otherworldliness to life on earth.
    Yes, you can twist the interpretation, make it compatible with religion, but in essence, secularism is in direct conflict with religion or any system based on divine inspiration.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +1

      Of course atheists are secular. But not all secular people are atheists. Hence, my criticism that those who equate secularism with atheism are incorrect stands. Plus I’m not trying to make things palatable. But I am trying to culturally contextualise them.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому

      Oh and appreciate your informed opinion. Please comment more. I want to get your feedback on all my videos. Thanks Shah Hussain. :)

  • @pasmandademocracy734
    @pasmandademocracy734 3 роки тому +1

    Kya aap ki yah video ham apne chainal par daal sakte hain ?

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому

      Sure.

    • @pasmandademocracy734
      @pasmandademocracy734 3 роки тому

      @@Taimur_Laal shukriya sir
      Sir ek baar aap mere chainal ko visit karen PasmandaDemocracy
      ua-cam.com/channels/rBpbi0Amx5ZmyL7fjYElHw.html

  • @syedghiyas9335
    @syedghiyas9335 3 роки тому +4

    At present Sadatullah husaini is Ameer of JIH not Jalaluddin Omeri.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks. At the time of the news report from which I read it was Jalaluddin sb.

    • @sattyashodh5619
      @sattyashodh5619 3 роки тому

      @@Taimur_Laal aap to munfik ho nabike jamaneme bhi aap jaise log the please please aap ghar vapsi karo

  • @smitkadu5504
    @smitkadu5504 10 місяців тому +1

    Waqf Act pe unka nazariya kya hai zara yeh bhi toh puch le...

  • @user-bp4db2yq3x
    @user-bp4db2yq3x 2 роки тому

    Absolutely right, from India

  • @danishhakeem4154
    @danishhakeem4154 3 роки тому +1

    Secularism ka ye maqsad konse awr kiske book mein hai?

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому +1

      www.britannica.com/topic/secularism

  • @atulgupta2152
    @atulgupta2152 3 роки тому +1

    Pls make video on partition of india

  • @williammarloweyeats1111
    @williammarloweyeats1111 3 роки тому +1

    Plz sir make video on Dr Ali Sharirati of islam his thoughts. As I heard he was a marxist.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому

      Sure. Why not. He was a socialist but he was not a Marxist.

  • @dextermatrix3452
    @dextermatrix3452 3 роки тому +1

    make video about Qanon and explain . thank you

  • @mrjunaid3681
    @mrjunaid3681 3 роки тому

    Good video 👍👌

  • @RD-pp9ds
    @RD-pp9ds 3 роки тому +2

    Sir you are taking what they say on face value!
    If you listen to offical BJP statements, they sound as sweet and as progressive as these statements by some ulemas!
    Secularism for Indian ulemas mean freedom to have 4 wives, give triple talak, have sharia courts!
    I too am against modi and bjp but please don't try to secularise Indian ulemas and maulanas in western sense!
    They are as bad as pakistani ulemas or as good if you think otherwise!

  • @Saifullahkhalid85
    @Saifullahkhalid85 3 роки тому +1

    Sir Pakistan man b to Religious freedom hay but ap agr chahty pakistan Secularism nazriye pay chaly to ye apka or rub ka mamala hay

  • @shaistamominstudio242
    @shaistamominstudio242 3 роки тому +1

    Well done

  • @geetaarth7142
    @geetaarth7142 3 роки тому +1

    In jamaton me kaion ko secularism tab yad aaya jab Jinnah inhen marane ke liye Hindustan me chhod gaye. Inki kismat se Congress ek secular party thi aur Hindustani itane khunkhar nahin the. Phirbhi ye jamatain Jinnah ke pas ray leni gayi ki ab kya karain. Jinnah ne direction di ki tum Muslim religious parties bane raho, jabaki Maulana Azad ne unhen secular party, Congress ko join karane ki salah di thi. Aaaj Pakistan me 30 % se do tin % non Muslim hain. Bankiyon ko markat ke bhaga diya. Jabki Bharat me Muslim ka % dugana ho gaya hai. Political Islam ne mulku ko two-nation theory ke base par banta hai ya vahan problem khadi ki hain.

  • @hasnainfareed8555
    @hasnainfareed8555 2 роки тому

    jis mazhab ki base p ap log riyasat c deen ko alehda krna chahty hain wo dusry incomplete deen hain na k Deen Islam, ye ek mukammal Zabta e Hayaat h r is main har kisi k haqooq darj hain,hamain un ko practice main lana h,(asal masla rule of law na hone ka h,na k rules ko change krne ka Dear Doctor sab).

  • @user-rp8cc3us4l
    @user-rp8cc3us4l Рік тому

    You missed the point that being secular is beneficial when in minority and when in majority you have to give rights to the minority. We have to come out of bigotry.

  • @armankhokhar3507
    @armankhokhar3507 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks sir...
    Lekin yahan Pakistan main log mazhab ko nishana banaty hain .... Jis ki wajah se humare nazdeeq is ki definition aisi ho gai...

  • @adv.fidahussainwazir2902
    @adv.fidahussainwazir2902 3 роки тому +3

    Sir, you are good in political philosophy but you can never apply it principles to shariah.
    Secularism: ulema dislike in Pakistan bcz it is going to be true Islamic state. Support to secularism in India bcz Muslim are minority.

  • @Muhammad-xg8fp
    @Muhammad-xg8fp 3 роки тому +1

    Ap Sharia or secularism ma kis ko choose karogay

    • @mahbubrm2148
      @mahbubrm2148 2 роки тому

      Their is no contradiction between the two hence their is no need to choose .

  • @fidahussain-qd3ol
    @fidahussain-qd3ol 3 роки тому +2

    madrisa system or cast system ko khtam hona chaea
    in k hoty hue koi b mulk society kabi taraqi ni kr sakti

  • @ishaqkhan4492
    @ishaqkhan4492 3 роки тому +2

    Reyasat mazhab sy juda nhy hoskta

  • @mehrajqureshi7136
    @mehrajqureshi7136 3 роки тому +5

    Love ur lectures sir .....from srinagar

    • @naseerwani278
      @naseerwani278 3 роки тому

      Where were do u think kashmiri left stand on jandk dispute... And their views about ladakh and jammu

    • @rajkumartripathi1973
      @rajkumartripathi1973 3 роки тому

      Hi brother🙋🙋🙋

  • @naturegirl4803
    @naturegirl4803 3 роки тому +2

    What I have read about secularism is different from your narrative. Secularism emerged in west against the dominance of religious dogmas and interference with rationality and later used in different settings and orders to suit their environment. Though the secularism narrated by you is good for all human beings and Muslims too but the tolerance without the name of secularism had been in practice in the state of Madina at prophet (pbuh) time in Islamic history.
    Moreover, this jamat e hind no good for Muslims in India.

    • @khizerliam9776
      @khizerliam9776 3 роки тому

      How are the secular ideals from West different to what described here in this video?

    • @naturegirl4803
      @naturegirl4803 3 роки тому

      @@khizerliam9776 west separates religion from state altogether while here secularism means justly and equally treating the believers of all religions while practicing one's own and that is farce in reality.

    • @khizerliam9776
      @khizerliam9776 3 роки тому

      @@naturegirl4803 that is the natural culmination of it.when you are going to leave out religion from legislation you get separation of religion and state and if you do mix the two then by definition you will be creating different classes of people based on their religious Identity and that's what is described in this video,watch it properly....you can never have secularism (of any defination) if you wish to involve religion in legislative processes neither you can attain equality in any meaningful way...

    • @naturegirl4803
      @naturegirl4803 3 роки тому

      @@khizerliam9776 the interpretations by different Islamic scholars build different discourses for people in Muslim world and people get convinced to their understanding and mental capacity. While the true meaning lies in Quran. Nevertheless Quran gives own standard and criteria for understanding life without the neo developed word like secularism.

    • @mehreenbukahri6118
      @mehreenbukahri6118 3 роки тому

      Riyasat e medina i guess current government ka lollipop he hai

  • @BilalAfzal-rb5ro
    @BilalAfzal-rb5ro 3 місяці тому

    What about ethnicity?

  • @ahmednaeem1815
    @ahmednaeem1815 3 роки тому +1

    Idhar minorities kam hain muslim ziada hai lakin odhar dosra bara mazhab islam hai

  • @muhummadsaud3722
    @muhummadsaud3722 3 роки тому +1

    subscribe kiya hua h boss .

  • @RajaAfaqIltaf1
    @RajaAfaqIltaf1 3 роки тому +1

    Good ho gaya G

  • @simple6138
    @simple6138 Рік тому

    I have heard the opposite. Principles of Islam conform those of secularism.

  • @irfanahmed2101
    @irfanahmed2101 Рік тому

    there is different context here in India, here secularism is just a saving from hindu rashtra, here BJP wanted to impose hindu laws in muslim personal things, that's why here in India we support secularism, here in India there is laws prevalent in our contexts that discriminate on the basis of religion, like quota, citizenship law etc etc,

  • @alikotlaa
    @alikotlaa Рік тому

    اگر کوئی لبرل سیکولر ریاست بناے اور اس میں کسی ایک مذہب کی تعلیمات کے خلاف چلا جائے تو اس کی اجازت ہے،اس کو استحقاق ہے،لیکن مذہبی ریاست اپنے فیور میں کوئی قانون بنائے تو اسے استحقاق نہیں؟کیا یہ منصفانہ بات ہے؟

  • @bhnuc
    @bhnuc 2 роки тому

    Maulana wo bhi secular. Aapko india ke musalmano ka secularism ke liye pyar hai kyonki hindu abhi 80 % hain. Agar kal ko hindu 50% se kam ho jaayein to inki language kya hogi is mamle par ye to sab jaante hi hain. 😇

  • @MrHitchfan
    @MrHitchfan 3 роки тому

    Don't you think these religious figures are taking such a stand at a time in india , where if you utter anything about their religious would get easily trolled or called a kind of terrorist. The same ulemas would have taken an overtly religious stand and invoked the prowess of their God. Also don't you know that political stand is taken by parties or religious groups purely based on numerical strength? The true intent of politicians is known only when they have the power to rule or when they the power to dictate it.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  3 роки тому

      the video is not about their intentions but about the definition of secularism.