This is like if a long-boarder in surfing tried to judge a short board based on how good of a long board it is. Two completely different genres of riding in the same sport.
Based on their name (New Schoolers), their attire, and the way they ski, they obviously focus first on park performance and then on powder (freeride), and lastly on piste. I like it even though I never focus on park performance and don't care about it. Gives a new prespective versus the majority of the content out there. Their focus is on freestyle skis that have some other limited uses. Their choices are great skis if your preference is at higher speeds (about 30+ mph) to more slide down the mountain rather than carve. With that said... New Schoolers need to add much more context to their videos. I found it impossible to carve the Bent 100 at higher speed (40+ mph). The tails are worthless (way too much of a double rocker shape). They should have explained it as one of the best carvers they tested (at slow to moderate speeds) for a ski that is also very foregiving and useful in the park. I guess I would say the opposite of their focus regarding all mountain skis would be the Nordica Unleashed 98. While it is a twin tip and functional for switch and park use (demanding in the park per Jeff at Ski Essentials), the primary benefits are on piste (long effective edge) and in the trees and powder less than 6". That is why I love the Unleashed skis... Their natural state is to be a great carver but then you can consciously (with a little effort) make them playful and moderately smeary off piste. The choices by New Schoolers are the opposite of that. My own criticism is that they should accurately explain their starting point with their choices.
This has the vibes of road biker in lycra moaning about how a downhill bike would be to heavy for their use. You said it yourself, you don't do much touring, you don't ski in the park, you don't do freeride. These guys are just trying to have some fun, don't be so dogmatic. Also, NS community has been there for over 25 years, it's a part of skiing history by now. Even though you come from a race background, there are other ways of approaching the mountain. Shock and horror, carving might not be the main priority. Someone skiing 50/50 park/offpiste would of course consider this when buying a new pair. Although I will credit you in taking the lesser dogmatic approach in saying that they might enjoy carving if they tried a narrower ski. As an aging park rat I am willing to extend my hand to by saying yes, carving is also fun. Skiing is about having fun after all, isn't it?
@@RicketySkiReviews Thanks for taking the time to address my comment! I seldom comment, but felt the need to raise my voice for all the park rats out there. Fair take on the carving part. I guess racing and park/freestyle can be set up as a venndiagram where the overlap in the middle is where we find sloppy carving and high risk low reward jumping. This is however also where a lot can be learned, and the fun begins!
Newschoolers audience is the opposite of your audience. I daily center mounted blackops 118s what matters to me in a ski is very different from what matters to you.
Kinda what I hate about the ski community at times, some people give very opinionated/biased advice to the point where they make other perspectives look flawed/incorrect. Fun skiing doesn’t look the same for everyone and that’s ok.
As someone who's snowboarded for a long time and recently picked up a pair of twigs. I think the optimal all mountain ski is 102 underfoot. Park skis have been getting wider, more stable, big long carves feel like you're longboard surfing, better variable performance. It's just such a fun size
New Schoolers have been online for quite a while. Surprised you have never heard of the, climb out of your foxhole much?? Just kidding, but judging "park rats" by your criteria is really showing your bias's. You could argue there should be another word besides "skiing" for what they do on snow. (showing my bias's too)
I think these are "all mountain" for their target audience, which seems to be park and freeride. Kinda makes sense because I can see these skis being used all mountain in these styles. That said, it's super confusing and they should just use different terminology.
I feel like east coast skiers (you) have a tendency to judge skis based on the awful east coast snow conditions and groomer skiing and not what the skis are made for
It's all good, I grew up in Northern Vermont, but have been in Idaho for 16 years now. My Dad's back east and he thinks my daily driver 90mm width skis are "powder skis" lol so I guess it's all relative
@@RicketySkiReviews I was at least close, an east coast transplant! still you are just operating on a completely different perspective and use of skis from the newschoolers audience which is park/freestlye/freeride based. my perspective is extremely biased to blackops 118s and I will never be able to enjoy any skis the same after those lol
I agree on helmets BUT when I ski spring in Southern Colorado probably only 30% wear helmets. In the spring sometimes I do go without a helmet and it is more enjoyable for me in that type of warm weather. I believe in safety but I also am a huge believer in individual rights.
Being a forum dweller at newschoolers and being a very different skier from you, i must say that you are not looking at other aspects of skiing than your own. Newschoolers is mainly a park fucused forum. And recent trends in park skiing shows wider skis (95-110mm underfoot) and generally softer skis. We don’t typically care about the groomer preformance the same way you do for your needs.
Sure I agree both types of skis are valid, but for the majority of skiers who just search "best all mountain skis" It tends to be narrower. And more importantly, carving is an important part of all mountain skis. They even cover that aspect of the ski in their reviews. But having skis that wide can work against that carving responsiveness. Which is a big deal for alot of all mountain skiers.
@@RicketySkiReviews i don’t think they made the reviews with the majority in mind. They were aiming towards the more playful and freestyle oriented riders, which have become more common than groomer skiers. Also, all mountain does mean that it can ride the whole mountain right? So why not have it rip powder and hit the park on the way to the lift? Carving might not be the strongest side of all these, but for the freestyle skier it is not as important to be thrown into the next turn, we need a more stable edge to edge that is easy to butter and slash.
My prior assumption was that a Newschoolers ski test/review was going to have the perspective that under 90mm underfoot doesn't exist (unless it's basically center-mounted), and they expect their target audience to mostly share that opinion. Not even having a ski under 100mm still surprised me, but glad to see solid reviews. I wonder if the reason they're giving these super wide skis a total pass on their carving performance (or lack thereof) is the fact that if there's not fresh powder, the next best thing on the hill for them is park skiing anyway, rather than carving like those of us who have gotten bitten by the carving bug. The opportunity cost of prioritizing powder performance just isn't that high if you haven't experienced the exhilaration of good carving technique. That said, I'm told that launching yourself off jumps provides a decent amount of exhilaration too, so...
The reason that carving isn't our highest priority is because it's only one facet of the many different ways to have fun on a ski (moguls, trees, powder, aerial + grind tricks, etc.). It's not the freaking end-all, be-all. For me personally, the piste is just a medium to get from one mogul field/glade to another. Zipperlining moguls is just more fun to me than carving.
@@Tanner731 Lol, of course they can carve "fine", but they're just boring to carve. Like, most of them are so boring that I get why people prioritize the ability of a ski to do anything besides carving. If the conditions are really firm, there's no reason I'd pick my Nordica Enforcer 104s over my Thunderbirds. I'd rather go cross-country skiing than carve on a wide ski.
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 Totally, I can 100% understand that perspective, and I've gone back and forth in terms of how much I prioritized carving performance. When I was living in Montana, I definitely treated the groomed runs more like they were just a means of transportation to the interesting terrain, and I think this perspective makes even more sense for anyone who's saving their days off work for when there's fresh snow and not skiing in firm conditions that much. Like I said, I think Newschoolers seem to be appropriately reviewing skis to their target audience in this regard, where carving performance just seems to be the least-prioritized attribute.
@@StartCodonUST I think carving is a little dull to begin with so I'm biased but a short radius carve ski seems so boring compared to making huge turns on a big radius pow ski
Okay, what would you recommend for an advanced Dad skiing with kids learning and with friends doing everything looking for a daily driver. Live in Utah and will ski all conditions. I've tried the Unleashed 98s and the Elan Playmaker 101s. I didn't like the Playmakers as they weren't great in the crud at the end of the season. The unleashed 98s were fine. I've got my eyes set on the Clack Crows Atris. What do you think?
Atris is a lot of fun. The big contextual knock which you should have no issues with, is out in the NE it needs a lot of runway to really open up and come alive. BC surprised me with their build quality and there’s really no gimmicks. What I love about their skis too is after riding the Atris, I knew its baby brother the Camox, was a ski that would do all I needed to as a dad ski and I was relatively shocked by the great edge hold. I’m 5’7” 140lb on the 174.2cm Camox. In Utah you’d be better with the Atris for better floatation and crud busting. And you won’t have the knee strain that can come with a lot of turns on hard pack/ice. Definitely some good deals on last year’s skis too. Best of luck!
@@Rakingclaw4 Do you think it's a good choice? Should I demo a different ski? I'm just getting back into skiing to teach the kids and am overwhelmed with how many choices there are and everyone seems to have different opinions. You seem to have a genuine opinions as opposed ot other reviews I've watched. Much appreciated.
Hey, Great question, this will be featured in our next video! Short answer is that it depends on if you want your new skis to add to your quiver or replace something you already have? I love the Atris, but they're pretty aggressive off trail and fun at higher speeds, so you may consider that since your skiing with kids. Are these older kids that shred, or kids you're typically waiting for? a ton of different factors, but you're on the right path with that ski. I would recommend checking out my channel I have a couple videos on the Atris from me and Zach.
@@RicketySkiReviews I've watched your Qst 98 reviews as well as the Skiessentials reviews. For what I'm looking for would you lean towards the QST 98 or the Atris? Much appreciated. Also, do you ever come down to Utah to ski?
I love your channel, and you know why ? Because you are dissing others how they ski, but you can't ski either, that's really very funny to me. You talk about carving/skiing in theory very well, but when i see your carving style, sorry it's bad. Following your advice, i bought a QST 106, now I'm a little bit worried 😅. Thank you for your amazing videos, and advice !!! Keep the fire burning Greetings from the Alps and don't take it to serious, you are young, you can still work on your style 😉
I love my ARV 116 JJs. They are a great POW ski for those deeper days. Very fun, easy, and playful. Even after the snow gets mostly skied off on piste, the skis feel like they have air suspension and you are kinda floating above the chop rather than powering through it. I guess I enjoy being a lazy POW skier.
@@res_ipsa-REX I have older armada JJs and dont think the chop performance is as good as my much heavier blackops 118s but there isn't a better spring slush ski out there, so fun its almost as good as a powder day!
In my opinion, skis that are 85 - 95 mm under foot are better suited as “All Mountain” skis . . . like the Solomon QST 92. I own a pair of Atomic Bent 100s that work well for me, but I also weight 160 lbs and they don’t noddle out on me. These work well whenever I”m spending more time off piste. Hey Elliot, have you ever reviewed the Volkl Mantra M5?
@@P.A.U.L. Actually, Mammoth Mountain is my home resort. I ski on my QST 92 skis on firm days. I have the Atomic Bent 100, Salomon QST 106 and Bent 120's for the good days.
“Wow what a sick carve! Here’s my number” -no girl ever. The NewSchoolers crowd wants to drop cliffs, slash pow, flip jumps, rip through trees, and spin off rails. Groomers are boring and no one cares about carving on NS. This guy was well aware of that when he made the video too but did this video as clickbait.
Did you actually watch the video? Also, most people buying "all mountain" skis care about carving. Otherwise, they're looking at freestyle or powder skis.
I watched the first 9 minutes because people are cooking you in the NS threads and I wanted to see if there was any validity to what they were saying. The people who care about carving with an all mountain ski are not the ones on NS and looking at their reviews for guidance. I think you knew that and made this for clicks.
Well, if you watch longer, I thought they did a good job assessing the skis, but these are very wide for "all mountain skis". If anything I just think new schoolers mislabeled the list bc its a heavily searched term. I also react to other reviews, like curated etc. I don't follow new schoolers. This video just happened to cross my radar since I primarily review all mountain skis myself.
"Works in the park, works in the pow" is a red flag that the review isn't going to provide anything useful. Every ski I've owned has sucked at something, meaning it has a specific use case. That's the information that would be useful.
I know some breck patrollers who use the sender 110s as daily drivers. Insane to me. Really contributes to the patrol can’t ski stereotype 😂. (They’re actually really good though.)
Thanks for watching everyone! Let me know your favorite all mountain skis!
This is like if a long-boarder in surfing tried to judge a short board based on how good of a long board it is.
Two completely different genres of riding in the same sport.
Unc is a D1 freestyle hater
Based on their name (New Schoolers), their attire, and the way they ski, they obviously focus first on park performance and then on powder (freeride), and lastly on piste. I like it even though I never focus on park performance and don't care about it. Gives a new prespective versus the majority of the content out there. Their focus is on freestyle skis that have some other limited uses. Their choices are great skis if your preference is at higher speeds (about 30+ mph) to more slide down the mountain rather than carve. With that said... New Schoolers need to add much more context to their videos. I found it impossible to carve the Bent 100 at higher speed (40+ mph). The tails are worthless (way too much of a double rocker shape). They should have explained it as one of the best carvers they tested (at slow to moderate speeds) for a ski that is also very foregiving and useful in the park. I guess I would say the opposite of their focus regarding all mountain skis would be the Nordica Unleashed 98. While it is a twin tip and functional for switch and park use (demanding in the park per Jeff at Ski Essentials), the primary benefits are on piste (long effective edge) and in the trees and powder less than 6". That is why I love the Unleashed skis... Their natural state is to be a great carver but then you can consciously (with a little effort) make them playful and moderately smeary off piste. The choices by New Schoolers are the opposite of that. My own criticism is that they should accurately explain their starting point with their choices.
This has the vibes of road biker in lycra moaning about how a downhill bike would be to heavy for their use.
You said it yourself, you don't do much touring, you don't ski in the park, you don't do freeride. These guys are just trying to have some fun, don't be so dogmatic.
Also, NS community has been there for over 25 years, it's a part of skiing history by now. Even though you come from a race background, there are other ways of approaching the mountain. Shock and horror, carving might not be the main priority.
Someone skiing 50/50 park/offpiste would of course consider this when buying a new pair.
Although I will credit you in taking the lesser dogmatic approach in saying that they might enjoy carving if they tried a narrower ski. As an aging park rat I am willing to extend my hand to by saying yes, carving is also fun. Skiing is about having fun after all, isn't it?
This comment will be featured in the next video, keep an eye out!
@@RicketySkiReviews Thanks for taking the time to address my comment! I seldom comment, but felt the need to raise my voice for all the park rats out there.
Fair take on the carving part. I guess racing and park/freestyle can be set up as a venndiagram where the overlap in the middle is where we find sloppy carving and high risk low reward jumping.
This is however also where a lot can be learned, and the fun begins!
Newschoolers audience is the opposite of your audience. I daily center mounted blackops 118s what matters to me in a ski is very different from what matters to you.
Kinda what I hate about the ski community at times, some people give very opinionated/biased advice to the point where they make other perspectives look flawed/incorrect. Fun skiing doesn’t look the same for everyone and that’s ok.
@@ellisandral9267 yep, my dad wouldnt get along with the skis I like and I think I would only like his skis in the moguls
As someone who's snowboarded for a long time and recently picked up a pair of twigs. I think the optimal all mountain ski is 102 underfoot. Park skis have been getting wider, more stable, big long carves feel like you're longboard surfing, better variable performance. It's just such a fun size
New Schoolers have been online for quite a while. Surprised you have never heard of the, climb out of your foxhole much?? Just kidding, but judging "park rats" by your criteria is really showing your bias's. You could argue there should be another word besides "skiing" for what they do on snow. (showing my bias's too)
I think these are "all mountain" for their target audience, which seems to be park and freeride. Kinda makes sense because I can see these skis being used all mountain in these styles. That said, it's super confusing and they should just use different terminology.
The name newschooler pretty much describe who they are and who their target audience are.
fair point
I feel like east coast skiers (you) have a tendency to judge skis based on the awful east coast snow conditions and groomer skiing and not what the skis are made for
I live and Ski in Idaho
@@RicketySkiReviews hahahaha my bad you seem very eastcoast to me with the "im a racer" and love of skinny skis
It's all good, I grew up in Northern Vermont, but have been in Idaho for 16 years now. My Dad's back east and he thinks my daily driver 90mm width skis are "powder skis" lol so I guess it's all relative
@@RicketySkiReviews I was at least close, an east coast transplant! still you are just operating on a completely different perspective and use of skis from the newschoolers audience which is park/freestlye/freeride based. my perspective is extremely biased to blackops 118s and I will never be able to enjoy any skis the same after those lol
In all fairness he skis Bogus; they don’t get absolutely massive amounts of snow for a west coast mountain.
I agree on helmets BUT when I ski spring in Southern Colorado probably only 30% wear helmets. In the spring sometimes I do go without a helmet and it is more enjoyable for me in that type of warm weather. I believe in safety but I also am a huge believer in individual rights.
100 being the wide end of the range for you is crazy, I rarely ever ride anything under 100
Wide skis are so fun, I ride 106 underfoot daily and love it. I am in utah tho
Being a forum dweller at newschoolers and being a very different skier from you, i must say that you are not looking at other aspects of skiing than your own. Newschoolers is mainly a park fucused forum. And recent trends in park skiing shows wider skis (95-110mm underfoot) and generally softer skis. We don’t typically care about the groomer preformance the same way you do for your needs.
Sure I agree both types of skis are valid, but for the majority of skiers who just search "best all mountain skis" It tends to be narrower. And more importantly, carving is an important part of all mountain skis. They even cover that aspect of the ski in their reviews. But having skis that wide can work against that carving responsiveness. Which is a big deal for alot of all mountain skiers.
@@RicketySkiReviews i don’t think they made the reviews with the majority in mind. They were aiming towards the more playful and freestyle oriented riders, which have become more common than groomer skiers. Also, all mountain does mean that it can ride the whole mountain right? So why not have it rip powder and hit the park on the way to the lift? Carving might not be the strongest side of all these, but for the freestyle skier it is not as important to be thrown into the next turn, we need a more stable edge to edge that is easy to butter and slash.
My prior assumption was that a Newschoolers ski test/review was going to have the perspective that under 90mm underfoot doesn't exist (unless it's basically center-mounted), and they expect their target audience to mostly share that opinion. Not even having a ski under 100mm still surprised me, but glad to see solid reviews. I wonder if the reason they're giving these super wide skis a total pass on their carving performance (or lack thereof) is the fact that if there's not fresh powder, the next best thing on the hill for them is park skiing anyway, rather than carving like those of us who have gotten bitten by the carving bug. The opportunity cost of prioritizing powder performance just isn't that high if you haven't experienced the exhilaration of good carving technique. That said, I'm told that launching yourself off jumps provides a decent amount of exhilaration too, so...
The reason that carving isn't our highest priority is because it's only one facet of the many different ways to have fun on a ski (moguls, trees, powder, aerial + grind tricks, etc.). It's not the freaking end-all, be-all. For me personally, the piste is just a medium to get from one mogul field/glade to another. Zipperlining moguls is just more fun to me than carving.
wide skis carve fine, skill issue.
@@Tanner731 Lol, of course they can carve "fine", but they're just boring to carve. Like, most of them are so boring that I get why people prioritize the ability of a ski to do anything besides carving. If the conditions are really firm, there's no reason I'd pick my Nordica Enforcer 104s over my Thunderbirds. I'd rather go cross-country skiing than carve on a wide ski.
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 Totally, I can 100% understand that perspective, and I've gone back and forth in terms of how much I prioritized carving performance. When I was living in Montana, I definitely treated the groomed runs more like they were just a means of transportation to the interesting terrain, and I think this perspective makes even more sense for anyone who's saving their days off work for when there's fresh snow and not skiing in firm conditions that much. Like I said, I think Newschoolers seem to be appropriately reviewing skis to their target audience in this regard, where carving performance just seems to be the least-prioritized attribute.
@@StartCodonUST I think carving is a little dull to begin with so I'm biased but a short radius carve ski seems so boring compared to making huge turns on a big radius pow ski
Okay, what would you recommend for an advanced Dad skiing with kids learning and with friends doing everything looking for a daily driver. Live in Utah and will ski all conditions. I've tried the Unleashed 98s and the Elan Playmaker 101s. I didn't like the Playmakers as they weren't great in the crud at the end of the season. The unleashed 98s were fine. I've got my eyes set on the Clack Crows Atris. What do you think?
Atris is a lot of fun. The big contextual knock which you should have no issues with, is out in the NE it needs a lot of runway to really open up and come alive. BC surprised me with their build quality and there’s really no gimmicks. What I love about their skis too is after riding the Atris, I knew its baby brother the Camox, was a ski that would do all I needed to as a dad ski and I was relatively shocked by the great edge hold. I’m 5’7” 140lb on the 174.2cm Camox. In Utah you’d be better with the Atris for better floatation and crud busting. And you won’t have the knee strain that can come with a lot of turns on hard pack/ice.
Definitely some good deals on last year’s skis too. Best of luck!
@@Rakingclaw4 Do you think it's a good choice? Should I demo a different ski? I'm just getting back into skiing to teach the kids and am overwhelmed with how many choices there are and everyone seems to have different opinions. You seem to have a genuine opinions as opposed ot other reviews I've watched. Much appreciated.
Dynastar 108 from newschoolers review best ski 😊
Hey, Great question, this will be featured in our next video! Short answer is that it depends on if you want your new skis to add to your quiver or replace something you already have? I love the Atris, but they're pretty aggressive off trail and fun at higher speeds, so you may consider that since your skiing with kids. Are these older kids that shred, or kids you're typically waiting for? a ton of different factors, but you're on the right path with that ski. I would recommend checking out my channel I have a couple videos on the Atris from me and Zach.
@@RicketySkiReviews I've watched your Qst 98 reviews as well as the Skiessentials reviews. For what I'm looking for would you lean towards the QST 98 or the Atris? Much appreciated. Also, do you ever come down to Utah to ski?
Is it possible to change your camera's focus from auto to manual?
I don’t think he is smart enough to figure it out
Rustler 9 for my daily driver.
Sender 110 Free is an inspiring ski in the steep and deep. Is it winter yet?
I love your channel, and you know why ?
Because you are dissing others how they ski, but you can't ski either, that's really very funny to me. You talk about carving/skiing in theory very well, but when i see your carving style, sorry it's bad. Following your advice, i bought a QST 106, now I'm a little bit worried 😅.
Thank you for your amazing videos, and advice !!!
Keep the fire burning
Greetings from the Alps and don't take it to serious, you are young, you can still work on your style 😉
“Every time I try to get out… they pull me back in!”
Solomon qst 92 has been so nice for me. I have armada 106’s as well but I love the 92’s
I love my ARV 116 JJs. They are a great POW ski for those deeper days. Very fun, easy, and playful. Even after the snow gets mostly skied off on piste, the skis feel like they have air suspension and you are kinda floating above the chop rather than powering through it. I guess I enjoy being a lazy POW skier.
@@res_ipsa-REX I have older armada JJs and dont think the chop performance is as good as my much heavier blackops 118s but there isn't a better spring slush ski out there, so fun its almost as good as a powder day!
In my opinion, skis that are 85 - 95 mm under foot are better suited as “All Mountain” skis . . . like the Solomon QST 92. I own a pair of Atomic Bent 100s that work well for me, but I also weight 160 lbs and they don’t noddle out on me. These work well whenever I”m spending more time off piste. Hey Elliot, have you ever reviewed the Volkl Mantra M5?
You ski on the east coast or something? Wont catch me on a ski skinnier than 100 underfoot
@@P.A.U.L. Actually, Mammoth Mountain is my home resort. I ski on my QST 92 skis on firm days. I have the Atomic Bent 100, Salomon QST 106 and Bent 120's for the good days.
Helmets did not exist until it became a business 😮.
Opinion on the enforcer 104 2024?
“Wow what a sick carve! Here’s my number” -no girl ever.
The NewSchoolers crowd wants to drop cliffs, slash pow, flip jumps, rip through trees, and spin off rails. Groomers are boring and no one cares about carving on NS. This guy was well aware of that when he made the video too but did this video as clickbait.
Did you actually watch the video? Also, most people buying "all mountain" skis care about carving. Otherwise, they're looking at freestyle or powder skis.
I watched the first 9 minutes because people are cooking you in the NS threads and I wanted to see if there was any validity to what they were saying.
The people who care about carving with an all mountain ski are not the ones on NS and looking at their reviews for guidance. I think you knew that and made this for clicks.
Well, if you watch longer, I thought they did a good job assessing the skis, but these are very wide for "all mountain skis". If anything I just think new schoolers mislabeled the list bc its a heavily searched term. I also react to other reviews, like curated etc. I don't follow new schoolers. This video just happened to cross my radar since I primarily review all mountain skis myself.
@@RicketySkiReviews You must be an east coast guy or something
that implies Newschoolers had it in the first place 😂😂😂
"Works in the park, works in the pow" is a red flag that the review isn't going to provide anything useful. Every ski I've owned has sucked at something, meaning it has a specific use case. That's the information that would be useful.
I ski park and pow on the same ski and even do slack country on them so yes there is skis that do it all.
I know some breck patrollers who use the sender 110s as daily drivers. Insane to me. Really contributes to the patrol can’t ski stereotype 😂.
(They’re actually really good though.)
All mountain is such a joke.
Including park skiing in the category of all mountain skis isn’t fair to the skis or the viewers. It’s a disservice to everything skiing,lol.
@@GrampyScott all these old heads don’t understand what Newschoolers means
These are called all-mountain skis, is the park not part of the mountain? lmao
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 no. The skis for a park are quite different.