Milmoo below brought up two good tips for this build. For bossing if you don't want to bother with debuffing and using the totem you can just use Eye of winter with Unleash, Scattershot, and Withering Touch to apply wither for you. I'm personally running into mana issues on bosses so I took the Unleash off and am still getting max withering stacks every cast. If you are running into mana issues on bosses and/or your bosses still take more than a few casts to kill you should still be using essence drain as it's damage per cast and damage per mana both outweigh hex blast for single target. If you can afford a "From Nothing Diamond" with the explicit "Passives in Radius of Unwavering Stance can be allocated without being connected to you tree" or "Passives in Radius of Bulwark can be allocated without being connected to you tree" you can get the entire Hale Heart tree which is a massive boost to health regen for 5 passive points. To find these on the market use this link www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/KLpbJvqU5.
Hey man, good vid, been running this build for the last week and its a blast. Couple of ideas that may help. For applying wither, Eye of Winter with withering touch, scattershot and unleash will get you to max stacks with one cast. Also havent really seen anyone use this but a From nothing jewel with either Bulwark or Unwavering Stance allows you to grab the whole Hale Heart cluster and seen them realtively cheap on trade. Happy blasting!
i was playing spark demon form and the ramping damage was low on few stacks of demon form. i switched over to this version and now my dps is respectable! seems like the chaos/DoT carrys you on few stacks of demon form compared to spark and its lightning damage.
Yeah the spark build that sorcs run rely pretty heavily on archmage for damage. Spark has really low base damage so even with the big multiplier of demon form is hard to scale it unless you increase it's base damage.
At what level do folks feel this build start working well? I'm throwing mad amounts of fire left right and center and personally just love chaos damage so I've been eyeing something like this for a while now.
I know people have leveled demon form builds so should work whenever. It's probably easier to level minions or something and switch into this. You also don't get hexblast till a bit later in the campaign.
Did you find any way to deal with poison and bleed damages in high tier maps? Didn't die to it yet but I feel like having 220hp is a huge weakness against these, I usually skip or roll the maps with these attributes.
Bleed doesn't apply if you don't take actual health damage (in which case you're already dead). I've rarely had issues with poison but if you're worried about it you can wear an antidote charm.
one question please where do you get all the spirit from ? when i turn demon form i have 5/65 only and thats only with blasphomy + despair without arctic or grim feast
you will have 100 spirit once your complete the campaign, the rest you will get on an amulet. While leveling, assuming you have hexblast, blasphemy alone should be fine since it will allow you to hexblast. Once you have 100 spirit I'd turn on Grim Feast and leave arctic armor till after you buy/find an amulet with spirit
Great idea, I've been trying to figure out how to make this all work. It looks like there is some more problem solving to be done though. I like that you're addressing boss fights, as nearly every build you see on the UA-cams only shows them clearing trash mobs.
@@BonkGaming210 I just ran into a thing with Blasphemy. I had it working in Demon Form with one curse and one additional gem inserted. Then I added another slot, added another curse, and BAM it doesn't work anymore. I tried returning to the single curse, and still can't get it working again. I know it's because I'm losing my scepter when I transform, but can't figure out why it worked previously in Demon Form.
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot Despair is 60 spirit per curse. If you're running heightened curse it's a 140% increase to cost. Just make sure you have enough spirit to run everything without the added spirit from the scepter. Also, just to cover all the bases, you need to turn on spirit gems by right clicking the spell icon in your skills window. You can also turn things on and off to run with certain weapon sets if you expand the details of the skill
@@BonkGaming210 Yuuup, all that I knew. I have it turned on, as I did when it worked before I upgraded the gem. I think it was a bug working in my favor when it was allowing me to run Blasphemy with curses in Demon Form.
Hi, I was just wondering if there was a reason not to take chaos inoculation to set life to 1? Seems like it would be good to remove life regen requirements but I might not be seeing something. Edit: nvm, I just found that demon form doesnt work with that skill
Why Hale Heart and not Resilient Soul? - Resilient Soul - 20% increased Life Regeneration rate and 5% of Damage Taken Recouped as Life - Hale Heart - 15% increased Life Recovery rate
I don't think I mentioned anointment in the video but they are there on the written guide. Life Recovery should be multiplicative with life regen making Hale Heart a better option but it is currently bugged and not multiplicative. That being said, if you get a From Nothing Diamond for either Unwavering Stance or Bulwark you can take the entire Hale Heart tree so you don't need to anoint it and can just anoint Resilient Soul
@@BonkGaming210 " Life Recovery should be multiplicative with life regen" Ah, i was not sure what recovery exactly does but if it would take life regen multiplicative then its better. (bad that it is bugged right now) I will try to get a Diamond but they are expensive right now. Thanks.
I cannot enter demon form with blasphemy already active. I've tried googling this and either get someone with the same problem (unsolved) or people saying make sure it's active on both weaponsets (it is, but their problem seemed to be blasphemy deactivating when entering demonform, i cannot enter it at all, it just makes a UI noise and does nothing). I have to turn OFF blasphemy, activate demon form and then manually re-active blasphemy and i'm fine... Except if demonform runsout I have to manually do this again. Do you have any idea what my issue is? It isnt a spirit problem either, I dont even have weapons equipped and have 70 spirit. Ty!
Vitality reserves spirit doesn’t it? If you already had all of your spirit reserved then you wouldn’t be able to activate any ability with vitality socketed. This explains why disabling blasphemy would let you transform. Probably not a bug but it is confusing
if i may ask, what is the need for life to be as low as possible? im playing a spark version and i have 2200 life regen, life regen negates the debuff from demon up to 540 stacks, i see here around 150 your life starts dropping off
I don't think that kind of regen is possible without using Mask of the Stitched Demon which is abusing a bug with demon form that currently exists in the game. To answer your question though, lowering your HP lowers the damage that demonflame does to you down to the minimum of 1 hp/s.
Shouldn't be too hard to convert the build for spark. Candlemass in act 1 and act 1 cruel are where you get additional HP (+20 and 8% respectively) and if you are min maxing the build he should be avoided. If you've already completed the campaign and got the bonuses it's not that big a deal.
Hey man, nice video! Thanks for sharing it. Just one question: in this case Ritualistic Curse is supporting another support gem (Despair) instead of supporting Blasphemy directly, right?
You take the Pyromantic Path (demonflame replaces mana) and state that 90% Max Fire Res is essential but dont mention how you got 10 additional max res. I'm assuming that's all on Jewels aside from 1 point on the tree. That upgrade is a pretty hefty one if so.
Yeah for the pyromantic version of this build. It's still a WIP so I haven't made a video for it or anything but i say right below the skill tree that you need to get max fire res from jewels.
I personally leveled minions got annoyed with their AI and such and switched to demon form during mapping so i had some currency to buy some items. If you want to play demon off the rip the same general strategy applies in terms of gearing and such. HP regen keeps you in demon form longer and ES is your buffer if you want to keep your HP low. The cheapest unique in the build is ghostwrithe but you won't be able to get one until you have a few exalt.
Hi thanks for this build now what really interests me is which LVL can you play this build? I'm really fed up with the Minions and can't run any higher and die a lot. I'm currently LV 75. Would love to play this build. I don't have the chest armor yet.
You can play demon form all while leveling if you really wanted but I didn't switch till I was in maps as I was previously playing minions. I wouldn't say there is some level requirement to play just need to proper gear aka a ghostwraithe and at least 1 ming but they are going down in price so 2 shouldn't be too bad and life regen on belt, boots, helm, and neck.
Make sure it isn't disabled in your skill menu and make sure you have enough spirit WITHOUT your weapons as you aren't affected by your weapons while in demon form
Maybe a dumb question but how do i get that much spirit in demon form? You lose all your spirit from your scepter so my blashpemy doesnt stay up when i enter it
I'm not sure how demon form plays while leveling as I leveled minions but you can just use ed/contagion and minions until you get all your spells or follow a leveling build. This is more of an endgame guide as it requires a few uniques to work
You can run Essence Drain + Contagion all the way until lvl 41, which is the earliest you can unlock Hexblast. Or, you can level using minions, and then just respec when you’re able.
Would this build work with 10 Max Demonflame if you don't want to deal with the health issues? Possibly put more points in damage in the passive tree instead.
I think the biggest issue is that you can't find as much damage as uncapped demon form gives you anywhere else. What health issues are you trying to avoid with the build?
@@BonkGaming210 Finding enough regen isn't that big of a deal but managing health pots constantly kinda sucks. I was just wondering if 10 Max would also work and just spec more damage in the passive tree to keep DF up full time.
@@MissnL1nK The build the way i have it you health pot heals your ES you can't heal your health at all. Once demonflame damage overpowers your health regen you just go to 1 HP and revert out of demon form then recast it. You can definitely make a capped demonflame build work it will just be slower.
I am trying to get this build to work, however, every time I turn into demon form I lose my hex aura & my dog and not sure what I am doing wrong 😅 I cant atctive any of my spirit stuff on demon form
Eternal Youth gives more life regen along with all of it on our gear to keep us in demon form longer, the downside is our energy shield no longer regens but flasks instead fill our energy shield back up. To counteract that negative....if we are full health, which can happen up until the demonflare stacks finally start ticking our health down faster than our regen can keep up, the life regen rolls over and lets our energy shield constantly be refilling. So what this comes down to is...extra life regen, more demon form, life regen regens our shield constantly now, and then we have flasks as backup to keep our energy shield high once demonflare stacks start getting high enough. This does mean that you cannot use flasks to try to stay in demon form longer and get up to say 200 stacks like most guides try to have you do, but that's a dumb way to play anyways because you get run out of flask charges real quick doing that if you don't have a good flask.
Zealots Oath makes your excess health regen apply to your ES and Eternal Youth makes your health flask apply to your ES instead of life. Neither node is required for the build to work and taking Eternal Youth means if you take a poison large enough to over power your health regen you can't flask to keep yourself alive and without an antidote charm you'll just die. Eternal Youth only really helps you on bosses where Grim Feast isn't keeping your ES constantly overcharged.
Probably? Just buy the gear you need first and once you have a full set then respec. I switched from minions with like 50ex but it was a bit rough to start until all my gear was situated. I'm can do t18s and I don't even have a 6 link still
i have problem my regen is 427 my life 308 and i have stack 10 how to push up, i droped Mask of the Stitched Demon Feathered Tiara, it seams stack but i dont know why this demon form stuck at 10, maybe i need link 6 some gems?? Or maybe I need to make max ascendancy? 7-8 point in tree, I'm rly don't know why not move this stack up, help me 😊
You probably have Mastered Darkness selected in the ascendancy passive tree, that caps your stacks at 10, that tallent is there for leveling only. take it out.
Poison shouldn't kill you unless you are fighting mobs that have a poison on hit affix. If you don't want to have to think about it you can just run an antidote charm
@BonkGaming210 i have Only 10 demon stacks. I don't know how to improve. I have only 6 points, ascendancy level 78. I don't have good items, but two mings rings and this unique chest. I need to somehow increase spirit and resistances.
@@greegp7400 You are forcing the 10 stacks because you have the ascendancy in it. You need to let it be uncapped if you want to ramp up the spell damage as per the build guide in the description.
@BonkGaming210 now i understand I need buy two new mings ring becouse my both are corrupt and I can rise up health, in the demon form I have 330hp and probably life reg per sec 27 or more
@@greegp7400 Mings can be corrupt and not be an issue, in fact eventually you will want to corrupt them to remove more HP. Sounds like your issue is you don't have enough life regen per sec. For reference I have 245 life regen per sec atm
@@Mountainandmolehill Oh gotcha. 279 HP sounds about right without a corrupt Ghostwrithe and Corrupt Ming's. You should be able to do maps pretty easily with that amount of stacks
I didn't run it till maps after leveling as minions. I'd recommend getting through the campaign and then switch once you have your ghostwraithe and at least 1 ming's heart
@@BonkGaming210 what if hypothetically im loaded and can afford any amount of gear needed, is there anything stopping me in terms of levelling like specific nodes i would need?
@@BonkGaming210 i absolutely despise minion infernalist and im tired of my other characters so i saw this build and really wanna put it into motion so if theres anyways i can level as Demon Lady ill make it happen
I am half running it at level 30. I can’t keep demon form up 100%. I don’t have hex blast yet (level 41). I just got blasphemy online. Don’t have enough spirit to run 2 curses yet but I want to. I just use minions and fire spells, if I get a rare mob or big group I pop demon form to melt them down. I can keep it up for about 40-50 stacks and be fine. I’ve done 60 but it’s risky while fighting and watching health. Ghostwrithe helps a lot. I didn’t know about the ring until watching this video, so I’m gonna get that next. I have life regen on basically all my gear that can, and I’m always looking out for upgrades on that as I go. Also the +60% energy shield at top of passive tree is a big help. Now I’m just looking for ways to get more spirit. I want to run 2 curses with blasphemy and be able to auto apply curses then hexblast. I’m not sure how to get more spirit if I’m running ghostwrithe (so no spirit from chest as an option). Blasphemy with 2 curses costs 120. Then if you want grim feast that’s more spirit.
@@L3M0NPLEDGE If you can get the uniques and find some basic regen gear while leveling you could make it work. You'd have to figure out what spells you'd want to run since hexblast and blasphemy aren't available for awhile. Maybe some elemental skills or something?
I leveled as a minion build and then respecced while I was mapping so I don't know how the experience would be leveling. I think you can play the whole campaign as this build and it would be fine, maybe a bit quirky. It would probably be easiest to play minions with ED/Contagion until you can get blasphemy and demon form.
@@BonkGaming210 where can I change this option? I looked it up and apparently it’s a bug if you’re on PS5 that demon dog dies when you shapeshift. But id still like to know where that setting is that you’re talking about?
@@Grey14 If you expand out a skill to look at it's stats there are three checkboxes at the bottom and it says "Used with weapon set". The one with the claw is for shapeshifted
@@BonkGaming210 That's when I'll actually play. Just waiting on occultist or chaos weaver whatever they name it. I just hope they don't do her dirty like POE1 version. Almost her entire identity is on the tree or on a unique. and the nerfs.
@ im noob so i think i dont understand the build. So what peace of build make me deal more dmg? I dont have the complete build and just have 1 of the unique ring but indont make dmg. I have all resistances caped 4k energy shield 300 live. Idk sorry for the big text
@@tangao12 The damage comes from stacks of demonflame from being in demon form. You need life regen to sustain demon form so your demon flame can stack high.
Demonflame does .5% of your max HP per second per stack down to a minimum of 1 damage per second per stack. .5% of 200 is 1 so it's the minimum amount of damage you can take per stack. Lower HP won't benefit you at all though it is fine if your HP is lower. Demonform also gives 17% spell damage per stack of demonflame. So to stay in demon form as long as possible and stack the spell damage as high as possible we need to take the lowest damage per second we can so our regen can keep us alive.
The written guides are better for people to use as a reference for the build as I can actually update them. The video talks about using dark effigy and after only a few hours of the video being out i changed it to eye of winter.
It's also supposed to make your energy recharge apply to life instead.. but I presume the constant demon flame damage prevents the recharge from starting. Awesome build though, this has completely reinvigorated me to play witch. Currently sitting at 333 HP so need to find some better mings and ghostwrithe to get closer to that magic 200hp..
I wouldn't build this, they will almost certainly change it to % life AND energy shield as almost everything else like this has, and this will be unplayable.
While I do get the feeling this will get nerfed in some way it won't get nerfed how you describe as it would even make the 10 demonflame version unplayable. Let's relax with the doom and gloom Edit: I actually changed my mind and don't think there is anyway this is gonna get nerfed as comparatively to other builds we aren't even that strong.
@@BonkGaming210 It's not doom and gloom, it's just what will happen. Also it makes no sense that it would make 10 demonflame unplayable since you could just play it pure life.
To get high demon form stacks you need to have as close to 200 max HP as possible and as much HP regen as you can. So you need life regen on the 4 pieces that can roll it (Boots, Belt, Amulet, and Helm) as well as, as you've said, ruby jewels with life regen
@@BonkGaming210after a lot of time I only managed to get to 80 stacks now.. is that ok for now for mapping t7-8? is 90 life recovery per sec from regeneration not good enough? What should I aim for? Thnx for help
@@dvdzvc I imagine you'll be fine in those maps but only 1 way to find out! For reference I can get to like 220ish stacks and have 245 life regen and 242 max HP
@@BonkGaming210how do u have so much hp regen?even with for me near max hp regen rolls (20) that puts me around 130ish how do u have like more than a hundred?Pls help! I have all but 1 ruby slots filled but they’re all 11% too poor for 15
@@dvdzvc Amulet can roll up to low 30hp/s and should be flesh catalysted when you have a decent one and anoint with resilient soul. After that it's all jewels. I also have a "From Nothing Diamond" that lets me take the whole Hale Heart tree.
Milmoo below brought up two good tips for this build. For bossing if you don't want to bother with debuffing and using the totem you can just use Eye of winter with Unleash, Scattershot, and Withering Touch to apply wither for you. I'm personally running into mana issues on bosses so I took the Unleash off and am still getting max withering stacks every cast. If you are running into mana issues on bosses and/or your bosses still take more than a few casts to kill you should still be using essence drain as it's damage per cast and damage per mana both outweigh hex blast for single target.
If you can afford a "From Nothing Diamond" with the explicit "Passives in Radius of Unwavering Stance can be allocated without being connected to you tree" or "Passives in Radius of Bulwark can be allocated without being connected to you tree" you can get the entire Hale Heart tree which is a massive boost to health regen for 5 passive points. To find these on the market use this link www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/KLpbJvqU5.
Hey man, good vid, been running this build for the last week and its a blast. Couple of ideas that may help. For applying wither, Eye of Winter with withering touch, scattershot and unleash will get you to max stacks with one cast. Also havent really seen anyone use this but a From nothing jewel with either Bulwark or Unwavering Stance allows you to grab the whole Hale Heart cluster and seen them realtively cheap on trade. Happy blasting!
These are very good tips! I'll be sure to include these into my written guides and probably make a pinned comment with community tips
Sadly had to pay 4 divs for bulwark one but still worth it imo
@@zenmeteor9474 I bought mine for 3 div a few hours ago and now there are 2 on market for 2 divs
@@BonkGaming210 it's 10 divs on the market now.
@@deianthedon yeah everything is getting expensive 😣
i was playing spark demon form and the ramping damage was low on few stacks of demon form. i switched over to this version and now my dps is respectable! seems like the chaos/DoT carrys you on few stacks of demon form compared to spark and its lightning damage.
Yeah the spark build that sorcs run rely pretty heavily on archmage for damage. Spark has really low base damage so even with the big multiplier of demon form is hard to scale it unless you increase it's base damage.
At what level do folks feel this build start working well? I'm throwing mad amounts of fire left right and center and personally just love chaos damage so I've been eyeing something like this for a while now.
I know people have leveled demon form builds so should work whenever. It's probably easier to level minions or something and switch into this. You also don't get hexblast till a bit later in the campaign.
Did you find any way to deal with poison and bleed damages in high tier maps?
Didn't die to it yet but I feel like having 220hp is a huge weakness against these, I usually skip or roll the maps with these attributes.
Bleed doesn't apply if you don't take actual health damage (in which case you're already dead). I've rarely had issues with poison but if you're worried about it you can wear an antidote charm.
You can use unleash on contagion, make the casting real good.
I just cast it and then hexblast the mob so it dies and spreads is everywhere.
one question please where do you get all the spirit from ? when i turn demon form i have 5/65 only and thats only with blasphomy + despair without arctic or grim feast
im lvl 43 btw just changed to this build
you will have 100 spirit once your complete the campaign, the rest you will get on an amulet. While leveling, assuming you have hexblast, blasphemy alone should be fine since it will allow you to hexblast. Once you have 100 spirit I'd turn on Grim Feast and leave arctic armor till after you buy/find an amulet with spirit
@@BonkGaming210 ty sir
Great idea, I've been trying to figure out how to make this all work. It looks like there is some more problem solving to be done though. I like that you're addressing boss fights, as nearly every build you see on the UA-cams only shows them clearing trash mobs.
Always gotta be evolving the build! Yeah I wanted a video that showed more or less everything in a short video
@@BonkGaming210 I just ran into a thing with Blasphemy. I had it working in Demon Form with one curse and one additional gem inserted. Then I added another slot, added another curse, and BAM it doesn't work anymore. I tried returning to the single curse, and still can't get it working again. I know it's because I'm losing my scepter when I transform, but can't figure out why it worked previously in Demon Form.
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot Despair is 60 spirit per curse. If you're running heightened curse it's a 140% increase to cost. Just make sure you have enough spirit to run everything without the added spirit from the scepter. Also, just to cover all the bases, you need to turn on spirit gems by right clicking the spell icon in your skills window. You can also turn things on and off to run with certain weapon sets if you expand the details of the skill
@@BonkGaming210 Yuuup, all that I knew. I have it turned on, as I did when it worked before I upgraded the gem. I think it was a bug working in my favor when it was allowing me to run Blasphemy with curses in Demon Form.
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot Sounds like it if you were able to run more than your spirit would allow
Hi, I was just wondering if there was a reason not to take chaos inoculation to set life to 1? Seems like it would be good to remove life regen requirements but I might not be seeing something.
Edit: nvm, I just found that demon form doesnt work with that skill
The latest update seems to nerf the ES interactions with Ming's Heart and Ghostwrithe. How do you deal with this?
Latest patch didn't nerf any of the item interactions on the build, all my stats are the same.
Why Hale Heart and not Resilient Soul?
- Resilient Soul - 20% increased Life Regeneration rate and 5% of Damage Taken Recouped as Life
- Hale Heart - 15% increased Life Recovery rate
I don't think I mentioned anointment in the video but they are there on the written guide. Life Recovery should be multiplicative with life regen making Hale Heart a better option but it is currently bugged and not multiplicative. That being said, if you get a From Nothing Diamond for either Unwavering Stance or Bulwark you can take the entire Hale Heart tree so you don't need to anoint it and can just anoint Resilient Soul
@@BonkGaming210 " Life Recovery should be multiplicative with life regen"
Ah, i was not sure what recovery exactly does but if it would take life regen multiplicative then its better. (bad that it is bugged right now)
I will try to get a Diamond but they are expensive right now.
Thanks.
I'm looking to respec my minion witch to this. How many life regen/sec are we going to need?
Somewhere around 150 should be a very solid starting point. Shouldn't have any issues always having a demon form available
@@BonkGaming210 Thanks!
I cannot enter demon form with blasphemy already active. I've tried googling this and either get someone with the same problem (unsolved) or people saying make sure it's active on both weaponsets (it is, but their problem seemed to be blasphemy deactivating when entering demonform, i cannot enter it at all, it just makes a UI noise and does nothing). I have to turn OFF blasphemy, activate demon form and then manually re-active blasphemy and i'm fine... Except if demonform runsout I have to manually do this again. Do you have any idea what my issue is? It isnt a spirit problem either, I dont even have weapons equipped and have 70 spirit. Ty!
Glad you got it figured out
Vitality reserves spirit doesn’t it? If you already had all of your spirit reserved then you wouldn’t be able to activate any ability with vitality socketed. This explains why disabling blasphemy would let you transform. Probably not a bug but it is confusing
Yep vitality requires spirit probably why he had a problem
I’m guessing you rely on a weapon or off hand for spirit. That was my issue.
if i may ask, what is the need for life to be as low as possible? im playing a spark version and i have 2200 life regen, life regen negates the debuff from demon up to 540 stacks, i see here around 150 your life starts dropping off
I don't think that kind of regen is possible without using Mask of the Stitched Demon which is abusing a bug with demon form that currently exists in the game. To answer your question though, lowering your HP lowers the damage that demonflame does to you down to the minimum of 1 hp/s.
I love this build, i'll try to adapt with spark since i have one full linked with my sorc.
btw, which passives should we avoid during the campaign?
Shouldn't be too hard to convert the build for spark. Candlemass in act 1 and act 1 cruel are where you get additional HP (+20 and 8% respectively) and if you are min maxing the build he should be avoided. If you've already completed the campaign and got the bonuses it's not that big a deal.
Hey man, nice video! Thanks for sharing it. Just one question: in this case Ritualistic Curse is supporting another support gem (Despair) instead of supporting Blasphemy directly, right?
That is correct
You take the Pyromantic Path (demonflame replaces mana) and state that 90% Max Fire Res is essential but dont mention how you got 10 additional max res. I'm assuming that's all on Jewels aside from 1 point on the tree. That upgrade is a pretty hefty one if so.
Yeah for the pyromantic version of this build. It's still a WIP so I haven't made a video for it or anything but i say right below the skill tree that you need to get max fire res from jewels.
How do i get rid of the life reduction on lvl 100 demon stacks? i have 264 total life and 141 life regen per second. thankful for any advice :)
Sounds like you need more life regen either via gear with more life regen per second on it or jewels with %increased life regeneration rate
@@BonkGaming210 thank you for a quick response! i love the build so far :). i noticed i had low life regen on the helmet. ill try swapping it first :)
run mask of the stitched demon
@@thomasmoore6117 Rely on mask of the stitched demon if you want but it will be fixed in the future as it is currently a bugged interaction.
Noob here. I was under the impression that demon form HAS to specialize in fire, buy chaos build can work? 😮
You can actually cast any spell school. Demon form has no major bias toward anything except spells
just started and the demon form is what made me buy the game. Any beginner tips to make begin easier to be able to reach this?
I personally leveled minions got annoyed with their AI and such and switched to demon form during mapping so i had some currency to buy some items. If you want to play demon off the rip the same general strategy applies in terms of gearing and such. HP regen keeps you in demon form longer and ES is your buffer if you want to keep your HP low. The cheapest unique in the build is ghostwrithe but you won't be able to get one until you have a few exalt.
Hi thanks for this build now what really interests me is which LVL can you play this build? I'm really fed up with the Minions and can't run any higher and die a lot. I'm currently LV 75. Would love to play this build. I don't have the chest armor yet.
If you're mapping you can play this. Just buy the gear you need first and then respec.
What level you recommend to switch to this build?
You can play demon form all while leveling if you really wanted but I didn't switch till I was in maps as I was previously playing minions. I wouldn't say there is some level requirement to play just need to proper gear aka a ghostwraithe and at least 1 ming but they are going down in price so 2 shouldn't be too bad and life regen on belt, boots, helm, and neck.
@@BonkGaming210 I'm level 22 and have regen on every slot I can...can't really maintain demon form too long lol.
@@ItsMeKiet Yeah you won't be able to super stack it like you do in maps and end-game, it's more of a button you press to kill rares and bosses.
why does despair not activate via blasphemy while in demon form for me? am i missing something
Make sure it isn't disabled in your skill menu and make sure you have enough spirit WITHOUT your weapons as you aren't affected by your weapons while in demon form
Maybe a dumb question but how do i get that much spirit in demon form? You lose all your spirit from your scepter so my blashpemy doesnt stay up when i enter it
You should have 100 from the campaign and then you can get some from your amulet. You can run the base of the skills without any spirit on amulet
@@BonkGaming210 Thanks for the answer, wasnt far enough into the campaign to run it yet but now it works and im liking it!
@@MrNilion Gotcha, that makes sense. Have fun!
What skills to run as a starter? When making the build, because I don’t have all of the skills. I’m level 18 at the moment
I'm not sure how demon form plays while leveling as I leveled minions but you can just use ed/contagion and minions until you get all your spells or follow a leveling build. This is more of an endgame guide as it requires a few uniques to work
You can run Essence Drain + Contagion all the way until lvl 41, which is the earliest you can unlock Hexblast. Or, you can level using minions, and then just respec when you’re able.
Would this build work with 10 Max Demonflame if you don't want to deal with the health issues? Possibly put more points in damage in the passive tree instead.
I think the biggest issue is that you can't find as much damage as uncapped demon form gives you anywhere else. What health issues are you trying to avoid with the build?
@@BonkGaming210 Finding enough regen isn't that big of a deal but managing health pots constantly kinda sucks. I was just wondering if 10 Max would also work and just spec more damage in the passive tree to keep DF up full time.
@@MissnL1nK The build the way i have it you health pot heals your ES you can't heal your health at all. Once demonflame damage overpowers your health regen you just go to 1 HP and revert out of demon form then recast it. You can definitely make a capped demonflame build work it will just be slower.
Your damage will be considerably nerfed compared to the uncapped version
I can’t use dog on ps5 it dies when I go to demon form 😢
F Console bugs
I am trying to get this build to work, however, every time I turn into demon form I lose my hex aura & my dog and not sure what I am doing wrong 😅 I cant atctive any of my spirit stuff on demon form
Yeah console has this bug atm, hopefully GGG fixes it soon
Hi, i have the Same Problems, do you have fix it?
Just go in and apply the buff also on the weapon set two it fixes it i had this problem on steamdeck
@@Der_Dicke_auf_dem_MTB
I am going through the tree and i am not understanding much about zealots oath and eternal youth
Eternal Youth gives more life regen along with all of it on our gear to keep us in demon form longer, the downside is our energy shield no longer regens but flasks instead fill our energy shield back up. To counteract that negative....if we are full health, which can happen up until the demonflare stacks finally start ticking our health down faster than our regen can keep up, the life regen rolls over and lets our energy shield constantly be refilling.
So what this comes down to is...extra life regen, more demon form, life regen regens our shield constantly now, and then we have flasks as backup to keep our energy shield high once demonflare stacks start getting high enough.
This does mean that you cannot use flasks to try to stay in demon form longer and get up to say 200 stacks like most guides try to have you do, but that's a dumb way to play anyways because you get run out of flask charges real quick doing that if you don't have a good flask.
Zealots Oath makes your excess health regen apply to your ES and Eternal Youth makes your health flask apply to your ES instead of life. Neither node is required for the build to work and taking Eternal Youth means if you take a poison large enough to over power your health regen you can't flask to keep yourself alive and without an antidote charm you'll just die. Eternal Youth only really helps you on bosses where Grim Feast isn't keeping your ES constantly overcharged.
Can I start it with 200 EX and one 6-link? Must be able to do T15 at least ^^
Any way merry Christmas!
Probably? Just buy the gear you need first and once you have a full set then respec. I switched from minions with like 50ex but it was a bit rough to start until all my gear was situated. I'm can do t18s and I don't even have a 6 link still
Managed to get my hands on a ghostwrithe with sockets. Any suggestions on what runes to put in?
You'll get the most total resist from soul cores of citaqualotl but they cost a few ex each
you can insert your own sockets with artificer orbs
i have problem my regen is 427 my life 308 and i have stack 10 how to push up, i droped Mask of the Stitched Demon Feathered Tiara, it seams stack but i dont know why this demon form stuck at 10, maybe i need link 6 some gems??
Or maybe I need to make max ascendancy? 7-8 point in tree, I'm rly don't know why not move this stack up, help me 😊
You probably have Mastered Darkness selected in the ascendancy passive tree, that caps your stacks at 10, that tallent is there for leveling only. take it out.
@deianthedon yes thank you resolve my stupid blind eyes , ❤️
@deianthedon 300 stack can reach, and slowly my hp go down, good for bosses 🙂
How do you deal with Poison ? I sometime got one shot by poison when demonflame stacks were high
Poison shouldn't kill you unless you are fighting mobs that have a poison on hit affix. If you don't want to have to think about it you can just run an antidote charm
What dps you have in demon form i reach only 14k and tier 7-8 not good at all for me i need more res
Are you using capped demon form? I can get up to around 220 stacks which puts hexblast's sheet DPS at 140k
@BonkGaming210 i have Only 10 demon stacks. I don't know how to improve. I have only 6 points, ascendancy level 78. I don't have good items, but two mings rings and this unique chest. I need to somehow increase spirit and resistances.
@@greegp7400 You are forcing the 10 stacks because you have the ascendancy in it. You need to let it be uncapped if you want to ramp up the spell damage as per the build guide in the description.
@BonkGaming210 now i understand I need buy two new mings ring becouse my both are corrupt and I can rise up health, in the demon form I have 330hp and probably life reg per sec 27 or more
@@greegp7400 Mings can be corrupt and not be an issue, in fact eventually you will want to corrupt them to remove more HP. Sounds like your issue is you don't have enough life regen per sec. For reference I have 245 life regen per sec atm
Hello i want u ask why u no lost hp on 120 stack flame?
With low max HP and high regen you can out regen the damage from demonflame for quite awhile.
I still get knocked out of demon form. I wonder what I am doing wrong.
Are you running out of health? If not that than are you trying to use a non-spell ability or attacking using the spell your weapon provides?
I’m running out of health. I think I’m getting up to 130 stacks. My health is stuck at 279. I think I’ll need an amulet to get it lower.
@@Mountainandmolehill Oh gotcha. 279 HP sounds about right without a corrupt Ghostwrithe and Corrupt Ming's. You should be able to do maps pretty easily with that amount of stacks
how to survi chaos damage ? am new idk if low life will die with chaos ???
Chaos damage doesn't pen ES just deals double damage to ES
@BonkGaming210 thank you sir ! i will try ur build next year !!! HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎉🎉🎉
@@SMALLBUPS7 Happy new year!
whats the soonest i can run this? like whats the prerequisite to be able to have this come online, my infernalist is 30 atm
I didn't run it till maps after leveling as minions. I'd recommend getting through the campaign and then switch once you have your ghostwraithe and at least 1 ming's heart
@@BonkGaming210 what if hypothetically im loaded and can afford any amount of gear needed, is there anything stopping me in terms of levelling like specific nodes i would need?
@@BonkGaming210 i absolutely despise minion infernalist and im tired of my other characters so i saw this build and really wanna put it into motion so if theres anyways i can level as Demon Lady ill make it happen
I am half running it at level 30. I can’t keep demon form up 100%. I don’t have hex blast yet (level 41). I just got blasphemy online. Don’t have enough spirit to run 2 curses yet but I want to.
I just use minions and fire spells, if I get a rare mob or big group I pop demon form to melt them down. I can keep it up for about 40-50 stacks and be fine. I’ve done 60 but it’s risky while fighting and watching health.
Ghostwrithe helps a lot. I didn’t know about the ring until watching this video, so I’m gonna get that next. I have life regen on basically all my gear that can, and I’m always looking out for upgrades on that as I go. Also the +60% energy shield at top of passive tree is a big help. Now I’m just looking for ways to get more spirit. I want to run 2 curses with blasphemy and be able to auto apply curses then hexblast. I’m not sure how to get more spirit if I’m running ghostwrithe (so no spirit from chest as an option). Blasphemy with 2 curses costs 120. Then if you want grim feast that’s more spirit.
@@L3M0NPLEDGE If you can get the uniques and find some basic regen gear while leveling you could make it work. You'd have to figure out what spells you'd want to run since hexblast and blasphemy aren't available for awhile. Maybe some elemental skills or something?
would it be possible to get list of gems / skills u would use while leveling ?
I leveled as a minion build and then respecced while I was mapping so I don't know how the experience would be leveling. I think you can play the whole campaign as this build and it would be fine, maybe a bit quirky. It would probably be easiest to play minions with ED/Contagion until you can get blasphemy and demon form.
@@BonkGaming210 tyvm ill try it out
This build also good for bosses?
@@greegp7400 It's fine. I've done 2 Breachstone bosses without any issue. Some of the other classes are definitely faster
Any persistent buff works with demon form in my PS5....
I tried putting clarity on my demon form and it didn't work 🤷♂️
Why does my infernal hound go away when I enter Demon Form?
Not sure. Maybe you have it set to deactivate when shapeshifted?
@@BonkGaming210 where can I change this option? I looked it up and apparently it’s a bug if you’re on PS5 that demon dog dies when you shapeshift. But id still like to know where that setting is that you’re talking about?
@@Grey14 If you expand out a skill to look at it's stats there are three checkboxes at the bottom and it says "Used with weapon set". The one with the claw is for shapeshifted
@ It just says “Skill is not valid for this weapon set” for every aura buff I have while in demon form. I’m not sure why either.
@@Grey14 I've heard there are some console bugs with spirit stuff, not sure if you're on console or not
How are you using blas in demon form? All my spirit gems turn off while in demon form.
I think console has some bug where they can't turn on stuff in demon form, that's what I've been hearing at least
Only the dog doesn’t work in demon form for console. For the spirit stuff you need to make sure you activate it in weapon slot 2 as well
@@DarthReaper Thanks, I don't know anything about console stuff only what I hear.
Idk if it the same for console but steamdeck its all fixed with weapon sets activation
how can u have 120fps constantly --- i have 3070ti and i7-11700kf OC >_
🤷♂️ Better gaming chair probably
im using you build but i have problem with extraction any thing im doing bad
Extraction? If you're dying to expedition make sure you aren't giving the mobs chaos immunity or giving them poison on hit without an antidote charm
@@BonkGaming210 o sorry my fault , we need atlest life reg , i love you build ;)
Is there no profane bloom equivalent in game yet?
Nope, hexproof is a bit of an issue. I'm guessing last ascendancy is gonna be chaos focused
@@BonkGaming210 That's when I'll actually play. Just waiting on occultist or chaos weaver whatever they name it. I just hope they don't do her dirty like POE1 version. Almost her entire identity is on the tree or on a unique. and the nerfs.
@@inthatcaseable Only time will tell!
What weapons u use?
I don't wear any since you don't get any of the weapon bonuses while in demon form
@ im noob so i think i dont understand the build. So what peace of build make me deal more dmg? I dont have the complete build and just have 1 of the unique ring but indont make dmg. I have all resistances caped 4k energy shield 300 live. Idk sorry for the big text
@@tangao12 The damage comes from stacks of demonflame from being in demon form. You need life regen to sustain demon form so your demon flame can stack high.
Ehh I think max stack with more health life recoup and pyro pact is for sure better
porque no los dos
i dont understand why hp need to be 200
Demonflame does .5% of your max HP per second per stack down to a minimum of 1 damage per second per stack. .5% of 200 is 1 so it's the minimum amount of damage you can take per stack. Lower HP won't benefit you at all though it is fine if your HP is lower. Demonform also gives 17% spell damage per stack of demonflame. So to stay in demon form as long as possible and stack the spell damage as high as possible we need to take the lowest damage per second we can so our regen can keep us alive.
@@BonkGaming210 thanks dude
You should really put chapters in your video for easy look up
The written guides are better for people to use as a reference for the build as I can actually update them. The video talks about using dark effigy and after only a few hours of the video being out i changed it to eye of winter.
Does ritualistic curse stack with magnified effect for blasphemy?
Yes it should. I'm running it on contagion but you could put it on blasphemy if you wanted
wanna ask why eternal youth doesnt works?
What do you mean it doesn't work? All eternal Youth does it let you heal your ES with your life flask
It's also supposed to make your energy recharge apply to life instead.. but I presume the constant demon flame damage prevents the recharge from starting.
Awesome build though, this has completely reinvigorated me to play witch. Currently sitting at 333 HP so need to find some better mings and ghostwrithe to get closer to that magic 200hp..
@@Paradoxfoxx Correct about the health recharge. Make sure your ming's are qualitied with flesh catalysts
Cant get that ring for the life of me 😭
gotta buy em!
I've been stalking the trade website all day, but my guild leader just surprised me and bought me two last night!
@@JusticeEqualityTM76 Nice congrats
I wouldn't build this, they will almost certainly change it to % life AND energy shield as almost everything else like this has, and this will be unplayable.
While I do get the feeling this will get nerfed in some way it won't get nerfed how you describe as it would even make the 10 demonflame version unplayable. Let's relax with the doom and gloom
Edit: I actually changed my mind and don't think there is anyway this is gonna get nerfed as comparatively to other builds we aren't even that strong.
@@BonkGaming210 It's not doom and gloom, it's just what will happen. Also it makes no sense that it would make 10 demonflame unplayable since you could just play it pure life.
@@stochastic42 ok 🙂
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@@BonkGaming210 so sorry i was wrong didnt see the jewel thing THIS BUILD IS GOOD THX
@@arshar3416 No worries, have fun!
t8
What's t8?
tips on how to get alot of demon stacks? i can only get to 30-40 before my hp runs out do i just need more hp regen? like the ruby gems? sry am noob
To get high demon form stacks you need to have as close to 200 max HP as possible and as much HP regen as you can. So you need life regen on the 4 pieces that can roll it (Boots, Belt, Amulet, and Helm) as well as, as you've said, ruby jewels with life regen
@@BonkGaming210after a lot of time I only managed to get to 80 stacks now.. is that ok for now for mapping t7-8? is 90 life recovery per sec from regeneration not good enough? What should I aim for? Thnx for help
@@dvdzvc I imagine you'll be fine in those maps but only 1 way to find out! For reference I can get to like 220ish stacks and have 245 life regen and 242 max HP
@@BonkGaming210how do u have so much hp regen?even with for me near max hp regen rolls (20) that puts me around 130ish how do u have like more than a hundred?Pls help! I have all but 1 ruby slots filled but they’re all 11% too poor for 15
@@dvdzvc Amulet can roll up to low 30hp/s and should be flesh catalysted when you have a decent one and anoint with resilient soul. After that it's all jewels. I also have a "From Nothing Diamond" that lets me take the whole Hale Heart tree.