We are going to see a resurgence of the media center/PC in the home. Instead of console gaming people are going do these small form factor boxes that offer better value long term.
Once Ryzen drop their new G series CPUs next year like the 5600G & 5700G that you can game on I think we are really gonna see some small builds and some nice cases to go along as well .
can confirm I would much rather have a desktop computer connected to a TV for a media center... gives me way more control over what I watch and how I watch it
I have ROG G20, and it seams that the successor (G21 Huracan) and this new ROG G22 both have the same flaw that may be a big deal in the lifespan of the device - custom motherboard. This means that if in the future, if something breaks or you will want to upgrade CPU - you won't be able to as you can not replace motherboard to a new one (to use newer type of CPU socket) as again - this PC seems to be using an Asus custom made motherboard (and not the standard off-shelf ITX mobo). The other flaw is fan & cooler - which is again "model specific design". It was also the case with G20 an G21 too. After like 3-5 years it is very likely that fans will get louder as bearings will be worn out. You could try to oil it, but in case of G20 & G21 - the oiling point is welded shut, so the only way is to try to find a specific design replacement part. And you can not use standard of-shelf part. You have to be lucky and get asus replacement part. I already replaced fans on my ROG G20 once and I have a spare set waiting, as the ones that are in my PC are starting to get louder.
Running an Intel Beast Canyon i7 NUC with a 4070 stuffed into it. Best gaming machine I've ever owned and a huge fan. Was sad to hear Intel moving out of NUC's so I'm very happy to see a vendor pickup the torch and continue with small form factors that can take full sized GPU's. Looking forward to seeing how much further they can push the segment.
Same. Was thinking of getting one. But Intel pulled out. Asus announced this line before Intel announced they were stepping back. Interesting to see if they stay with this line or take up the Nuc moniker going fwd or do both. Was worried about temps with this line but seeing how they nerfed the wattage the temps are surprisingly cool
Would be nice if Asus offered one of these pre-built SFF / HTPC units with a Radeon RX 7800 XT so you can get out of paying the green team tax. Was checking out the market for these small pre-builts but ended up getting a HP Z2 G9 mid tower a couple days ago cause the deal was just too good to pass up 😅.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't care for anything that's not using a CPU with 3D V-cache now. For me, it's a must-have and allows you to extract the most out of whatever GPU it's paired with. This PC with a 7800X3D would slay!
There is not a single game that makes use of a 7800X3D at any reasonable resolution when paired with the current high end GPUs, so it's completely overkill atm
@@gracelandtoo6240 "Not a single game" so you've checked every game in existence then? In GPU-limited scenarios it wouldn't make a big difference, sure, but ideally you want the CPU to not be the bottleneck so you're utilizing every bit of graphical power the GPU can muster.
You crank these vids out like a machine! Would you please give us a run down of what your process is for configuring all these SFF and mini pc's? I suspect you have a small SSD you plug into the demo systems out of sight, but if not I would love to hear how you do this so fast! I am building a mini pc for emulation gaming and plan for 2 others for the house and for travel. It would be great to understand your build process and put your best practice into my own. Thanks!
Well that's not cheap. I just built myself a 13600K minii pc with 120mm water coolling, 32GB DDR4 3600, 2TB PCE 4 SSD, 650W used EVGA sfx psu, Aliexpress Erying B760i motherboard, ZOTAC 4070 GPU in an Aliexpress 12l mini itx case. I made my own plexi side panel so a I can fix my 120mm radiator. It was 1350 USD, brand new stuff except the power supply.
This is what I been looking for :) small form factor pre-built rigs. I wish I was tech savvy enough to turn the hand me down pc I got into a small form factor plex server but I haven't a clue how to do it 🫠 because I'd love to set my dad up at the house to watch all of his favorite shows and movies but then I could get a small form factor rig for work :)
Swapping the CPU for a more power efficient AMD solution, having 64GBs of RAM, an orange case and enough money in my account, I would buy this. Thanks for a good video on this cool system.
Even The small foot print gaming pc are beautiful and POWERFUL too, that Asus mini gaming pc looks an AMAZING. By the way i'm interested of Aya Neo Flip KB and DS so would you do a video about of Aya Neo Flips? 😮
Thanks for this! honestly there's almost nobody else showing the insides of this, and asus doesn't give much info. Even their website doesn't mention there is a 2nd m.2 slot, i was only able to find that from reviews oddly.
RTX 4070 or AMD 7800 XT are two of the GPUs I'm looking at purchasing to replace my GTX 1080 TI. I decided to hold off as I'm hearing Nvidia has a 4070 Super planned with 16 GBs of ram planned for next year. There's a $250 dollar gap, along with a double digit performance gap between the 4070 and 4070TI. If the 4070 Super comes out at $600-650, that would be my next purchase to replace the old Gawdfather of raster GPUs.
@@qs3850 1080 TI was beast for It's time. Still a damn impressive 1440P GPU. It can do Ray Tracing in some titles, it's slow. Most titles the feature is turned off. With that said, it's connected to a 65 inch 4K OLED. Without DLSS and FSR being what it is, the card has fallen behind. I think it's only as fast a RTX 3060 or RX 6650 XT. So it's time, and I'm also glad I purchased high-end with 11 gigs of ram. Only now 11 gigs is starting to faulter in newer titles. CPU upgrade next year as well. Either upgrade the platform or go from my 8700K to the 9900K on the used market.
I've noticed Prime, that you have fair bit of audio misalignment in your content. I wonder if there's software out there to help catch that type of thing?
Thanks for the vid. Looked at this before but was reluctant for temps but this thing is running much cooler than expected, and unless you're s pro-gamer is plenty powerful to game on considering this thing has a small foot print on your desk. Wonder if they took that cooling system and beefed it up for a larger system
Hi, great video, keep up the hard work. also someone in Asus G22 page's comments mentioned that it's impossible to access bios in this pre-build case. can you confirm it? thanks in advance.
The Lat-Long on the top of the case points to the ASUS LiGong Building. That's a nice touch. Neither ASUS' e-store, Amazon, or Newegg seem to list the type of cooler and all of the listings use stock photos. That's a huge "F". From what I can see on ASUS' product page, there are just as many fail points between the two cooling types: 3 fans and a heatsink vs. two fans, 1 pump, and a heatsink. This looks like a nice little gaming box. I have a friend who really loves this form factor, sadly he's perpetually broke and will never be able to afford this.
I like the idea of a external GPU. But if you have that, either you could go micro PC OR a PC with lots of expansion port capabilities. Raid system, Pci-e for extra SATA or USB or Sound or lots of things. Yep 1 PC to do everything but small kinda means it does it all either poorly or OK or not at all.
Running mostly on 4k ultra doesn't stress the cpu as much. That could be the reason why cpu is chillin. Edit: I noticed that on Cyberpunk Gpu util is around 80% so it probably was limited on power.
I'm sorry but the Spider-Man Miles Morales settings you said cannot be right. Either it's not running at 4K or the settings are very different. Other benchmarks show that the RTX 4070 runs this game at Very High and no upscaling at about 60fps.
All near perfect .... but max 32 gb sodimm ram.... there is always one spec thats wrong. 2023 maximum 32 gb ram. This could be such a small and nice iray rendering machine. Asus please add more ram capacity for the next models. Thank you ETA PRIME!
When you say up to 32gb of ram do you mean 32gb per bank slots or 32gb is the max the PC can take? I saw on some sites with 64gb RAM options so kinda confused cause actual RIG site just says 32gb
so this is full on, desktop parts in a SFF case, with regular GPU. is there any good recommendations for a full desktop SFF without GPU? i would like to buy a SFF with full desktop parts for now, and invest in a GPU later. why? i can probably get away with onboard video for gaming/CUDA for now. but would want a GPU card later for faster compilation and don't want to spend the money on it now.
minisforum makes an entire motherboard fully populated and ready to plug in. Just need a case. Its got an open PCIE slot. In fact ETA has a build with it on teh channel
Got this tonight the exact model as ASUS ROG G22CH / ROG G22CH-BBI74070-CB (Intel Core i7-13700F Processor/1TB SSD/32GB RAM/GeForce RTX4070). I just want to add more storage/nvme is it easy? or does it tells the limit on how much you can add? tia
I have a question what monitor do you recommend for this PC that cost from 200 to 300 dollars ? And what type of usb cables are compatible for Xbox series S controller ? (For example usb c cable). Just to let you know I never owned a PC.
for $300 get a good reviewed 1440p 165hz monitor. as for the series s controller you can use built in bt wireless or use any usb c to usb a or c cable.
I'm really fond of small pcs. This one truly has a behemoth power.
We are going to see a resurgence of the media center/PC in the home. Instead of console gaming people are going do these small form factor boxes that offer better value long term.
Once Ryzen drop their new G series CPUs next year like the 5600G & 5700G that you can game on I think we are really gonna see some small builds and some nice cases to go along as well .
I certainly hope so
can confirm I would much rather have a desktop computer connected to a TV for a media center... gives me way more control over what I watch and how I watch it
And torrents are coming back too because streaming platforms offer less and less and now they're trying to push ads.
@@westsenkovec
Just be sure to pipe the torrent connections through vpS either before or after vpN.
I have ROG G20, and it seams that the successor (G21 Huracan) and this new ROG G22 both have the same flaw that may be a big deal in the lifespan of the device - custom motherboard. This means that if in the future, if something breaks or you will want to upgrade CPU - you won't be able to as you can not replace motherboard to a new one (to use newer type of CPU socket) as again - this PC seems to be using an Asus custom made motherboard (and not the standard off-shelf ITX mobo). The other flaw is fan & cooler - which is again "model specific design". It was also the case with G20 an G21 too. After like 3-5 years it is very likely that fans will get louder as bearings will be worn out. You could try to oil it, but in case of G20 & G21 - the oiling point is welded shut, so the only way is to try to find a specific design replacement part. And you can not use standard of-shelf part. You have to be lucky and get asus replacement part. I already replaced fans on my ROG G20 once and I have a spare set waiting, as the ones that are in my PC are starting to get louder.
Running an Intel Beast Canyon i7 NUC with a 4070 stuffed into it. Best gaming machine I've ever owned and a huge fan. Was sad to hear Intel moving out of NUC's so I'm very happy to see a vendor pickup the torch and continue with small form factors that can take full sized GPU's.
Looking forward to seeing how much further they can push the segment.
Same. Was thinking of getting one. But Intel pulled out. Asus announced this line before Intel announced they were stepping back. Interesting to see if they stay with this line or take up the Nuc moniker going fwd or do both. Was worried about temps with this line but seeing how they nerfed the wattage the temps are surprisingly cool
Finally! I got this a month ago and absolutely love it.
Which model did you get?
Yeah, which exact model did you get?
How ya liking it since
Thank You. Please Don't care about stupid comments some posted about Your Channel. It Is very informative and useful and Always up-to-date.
Reminds me of my Nuc 9 extreme - which makes sense seeing as how asus is currently carrying the Intel torch
Hard carry
Would be nice if Asus offered one of these pre-built SFF / HTPC units with a Radeon RX 7800 XT so you can get out of paying the green team tax. Was checking out the market for these small pre-builts but ended up getting a HP Z2 G9 mid tower a couple days ago cause the deal was just too good to pass up 😅.
This setup is VR ready.
I have one of these in my vewlix arcade cabinet. Fits perfect and stays really cool.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't care for anything that's not using a CPU with 3D V-cache now. For me, it's a must-have and allows you to extract the most out of whatever GPU it's paired with. This PC with a 7800X3D would slay!
There is not a single game that makes use of a 7800X3D at any reasonable resolution when paired with the current high end GPUs, so it's completely overkill atm
@@gracelandtoo6240 "Not a single game" so you've checked every game in existence then? In GPU-limited scenarios it wouldn't make a big difference, sure, but ideally you want the CPU to not be the bottleneck so you're utilizing every bit of graphical power the GPU can muster.
You crank these vids out like a machine! Would you please give us a run down of what your process is for configuring all these SFF and mini pc's? I suspect you have a small SSD you plug into the demo systems out of sight, but if not I would love to hear how you do this so fast! I am building a mini pc for emulation gaming and plan for 2 others for the house and for travel. It would be great to understand your build process and put your best practice into my own. Thanks!
As always very good content
... and very clean looking with no clutter. He reminds me of Dave2D's videos, but slightly cleaner. Regardless, as always, very good content!
Wow this thing is heck of beast power i like it
Oh this cooling system looks interesting because I've seen a YT Video about a guy who built many ducts to the CPU and GPU. The Tems went 14°C down.
A small but one of the most expensive PCs
wow, thank you ETA PRIME! I will check it out, looks amazing
A slight cooler reconfiguration would allow 2-3 fans up the top.
This makes me want to throw my 3070 Trident away, I love it. Will wait for the RTX 5000 series PC before making any upgrade.
Impressive performance.
I just really like the case.
Well that's not cheap. I just built myself a 13600K minii pc with 120mm water coolling, 32GB DDR4 3600, 2TB PCE 4 SSD, 650W used EVGA sfx psu, Aliexpress Erying B760i motherboard, ZOTAC 4070 GPU in an Aliexpress 12l mini itx case. I made my own plexi side panel so a I can fix my 120mm radiator. It was 1350 USD, brand new stuff except the power supply.
They really took up the NUC line. This form factor is almost like the NUC13 Extreme kit
This is what I been looking for :) small form factor pre-built rigs. I wish I was tech savvy enough to turn the hand me down pc I got into a small form factor plex server but I haven't a clue how to do it 🫠 because I'd love to set my dad up at the house to watch all of his favorite shows and movies but then I could get a small form factor rig for work :)
Swapping the CPU for a more power efficient AMD solution, having 64GBs of RAM, an orange case and enough money in my account, I would buy this.
Thanks for a good video on this cool system.
the idles on intel are more efficent
@@sggsquadpresents I tend to use my computer.
Even The small foot print gaming pc are beautiful and POWERFUL too, that Asus mini gaming pc looks an AMAZING. By the way i'm interested of Aya Neo Flip KB and DS so would you do a video about of Aya Neo Flips? 😮
Thanks for this! honestly there's almost nobody else showing the insides of this, and asus doesn't give much info. Even their website doesn't mention there is a 2nd m.2 slot, i was only able to find that from reviews oddly.
Damn this PC is indeed really nice! Better that DIY!
Fractal ridge with 7800x3d and 4080 has been my sff build. Will never go back to a full size tower.
RTX 4070 or AMD 7800 XT are two of the GPUs I'm looking at purchasing to replace my GTX 1080 TI. I decided to hold off as I'm hearing Nvidia has a 4070 Super planned with 16 GBs of ram planned for next year. There's a $250 dollar gap, along with a double digit performance gap between the 4070 and 4070TI. If the 4070 Super comes out at $600-650, that would be my next purchase to replace the old Gawdfather of raster GPUs.
1080Ti or nothing
@@qs3850 1080 TI was beast for It's time. Still a damn impressive 1440P GPU. It can do Ray Tracing in some titles, it's slow. Most titles the feature is turned off. With that said, it's connected to a 65 inch 4K OLED. Without DLSS and FSR being what it is, the card has fallen behind. I think it's only as fast a RTX 3060 or RX 6650 XT. So it's time, and I'm also glad I purchased high-end with 11 gigs of ram. Only now 11 gigs is starting to faulter in newer titles. CPU upgrade next year as well. Either upgrade the platform or go from my 8700K to the 9900K on the used market.
Hmm.... deciding...only gonna get one.
This same exact model....the HX77G or the Legion Go. 🤔 What do you guys think? Bad
@@Arnell_Mediocrity_Longlegion go is a fail I wouldn’t buy until they fix all the issues
@@Donfrasl 😯 Besides the 🔊 loud fan, what else is wrong with it? 🤔
I've noticed Prime, that you have fair bit of audio misalignment in your content. I wonder if there's software out there to help catch that type of thing?
He's rushing to get these videos done and doesn't proof watch them.
I would absolutely LOVE this one
Thanks for the vid. Looked at this before but was reluctant for temps but this thing is running much cooler than expected, and unless you're s pro-gamer is plenty powerful to game on considering this thing has a small foot print on your desk. Wonder if they took that cooling system and beefed it up for a larger system
Hi, great video, keep up the hard work.
also someone in Asus G22 page's comments mentioned that it's impossible to access bios in this pre-build case.
can you confirm it?
thanks in advance.
The Lat-Long on the top of the case points to the ASUS LiGong Building. That's a nice touch.
Neither ASUS' e-store, Amazon, or Newegg seem to list the type of cooler and all of the listings use stock photos. That's a huge "F".
From what I can see on ASUS' product page, there are just as many fail points between the two cooling types: 3 fans and a heatsink vs. two fans, 1 pump, and a heatsink.
This looks like a nice little gaming box. I have a friend who really loves this form factor, sadly he's perpetually broke and will never be able to afford this.
Yes yes yes
Finally we have a review on g22ch
You are one of the best and trusted UA-camr and we the viewers wish that you keep GTA v for APU builds also ❤
Wake up baby, new ETA Prime.
I like the idea of a external GPU. But if you have that, either you could go micro PC OR a PC with lots of expansion port capabilities. Raid system, Pci-e for extra SATA or USB or Sound or lots of things. Yep 1 PC to do everything but small kinda means it does it all either poorly or OK or not at all.
Awsome video
Looks great. USB4 ?
Running mostly on 4k ultra doesn't stress the cpu as much. That could be the reason why cpu is chillin.
Edit: I noticed that on Cyberpunk Gpu util is around 80% so it probably was limited on power.
Love the video.
Gee what a catchy name. Rolls off the tongue and easy to remember 😆😂🤣
Ohhhh awesome...😁😁😁👍👍👍
I really wish I could get one
Absolute beast -> Anything in this channel
Why did you change the thumbnail? The old one looks sick.
I got one love it.......... was using gaming laptops. This is better and looks good!
Please review the Chatreey TANK Mini PC with Thunderbolt 4! I think they granted your wish since the G2 Edge didn't have Thunderbolt. 😂
Hmm.... deciding...only gonna get one.
This same exact model....the HX77G or the Legion Go. 🤔 What do you guys think? Bad
I would take the hx if you have a 1k budget but defo this if you have a bit more money
@@unamdeenapanray10 Much appreciated 🙏🏽💯
Only cost about 3k usd in Denmark :)
I bought one of those msi trident pc console things years ago. Just not worth it when something fails or when your ready to upgrade.
Two videos daily?!! 🤔💯👏👏💯💯💯👏
Did you review the SZBOX FN60G yet? I am confused a bit about this mini PC and would like to see your review first.
I'm sorry but the Spider-Man Miles Morales settings you said cannot be right. Either it's not running at 4K or the settings are very different. Other benchmarks show that the RTX 4070 runs this game at Very High and no upscaling at about 60fps.
Wow! I like, I like!!!!
I really need a cheap easy to build min home theater PC
Wish I had got this instead of my tower, it's heavy AF.
0:55 - 0:57 the voice over interrupts itself, very jarring lol
I like the pc but the one thing I don’t like is how loud it is. Is there any way to lower the fan noise
Sound overlap at 0:57.
Would this bad boi fit an RTX 4080 Dual Fan Noctua OC Edition?
Might somebody hurry up and "clean room" reverse spec the nice case design, kindly? 👍
Thank you, ETA Prime.
Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
too bad they don't sell barbones kits. i rather like the sffpc case and cooling system.
I wish they were providing a version build with i3/i5 with 3060/4060
I have this
All near perfect .... but max 32 gb sodimm ram.... there is always one spec thats wrong. 2023 maximum 32 gb ram. This could be such a small and nice iray rendering machine. Asus please add more ram capacity for the next models. Thank you ETA PRIME!
Seriously thinking about getting this as i love sff builds, do you think its worth it?
Have you taken a look at the Peladn Mini PC? I am curious what you think of it?
Looks like Intel NUC Extreme Raptor.
Will there be a video on Minisforum’s bd770i board?
i ordered the i9 version
this looks an awful lot like the NUC9 Extreme layout
I still can't believe GTA 6 is going to be announced ...its just wow...we made it
We will have made it when the game is on a storefront! But it's nice to know we're in the home stretch
someone in my country is selling the case only of this. Can I build a PC inside of it using standard PC parts?
this thing really stays this cool ?
How does it perform in fpss in Cyberpunk at 4K, Ultra? Is it better than Nuc Dragon Canyon?
They doesn't sell this outside US and on the website only shows 3060Ti option :(
Add city skylines 2 bench
Hey mate many specs were wrong! BT is 5.2 or 5.3? Max 32GB 4800mhz and i9 13900k?
Division 2 can work on these mini PC brother
Hey so, is a RAM upgrade possible for these towers?
When you say up to 32gb of ram do you mean 32gb per bank slots or 32gb is the max the PC can take? I saw on some sites with 64gb RAM options so kinda confused cause actual RIG site just says 32gb
so this is full on, desktop parts in a SFF case, with regular GPU. is there any good recommendations for a full desktop SFF without GPU? i would like to buy a SFF with full desktop parts for now, and invest in a GPU later. why? i can probably get away with onboard video for gaming/CUDA for now. but would want a GPU card later for faster compilation and don't want to spend the money on it now.
minisforum makes an entire motherboard fully populated and ready to plug in. Just need a case. Its got an open PCIE slot. In fact ETA has a build with it on teh channel
I love how ETA PRIME is doing his part to fight Climate Change! :D
Got this tonight the exact model as ASUS ROG G22CH / ROG G22CH-BBI74070-CB (Intel Core i7-13700F Processor/1TB SSD/32GB RAM/GeForce RTX4070). I just want to add more storage/nvme is it easy? or does it tells the limit on how much you can add? tia
That's not small, that's SMALL SMALL!!
POCKET SIZED!
POCKET ROCKET!
LIGHTWEIGHT ZOOMIES!
Super weak hardware for 10L case by custom SFF standards.
Would be ok 7L or fantastic 5L build.
Hello, which model and manufacturer is the motherboard? Is it the "Asus brand B760 I"
₹2 lakh! Ouch.
(2 lakh= 200k)
Premium as hell.
Anyone know what live wallpaper he is using?
Hello. Does G22CH support xmp for installing ram kit with highed sleed?
What is that controller and how do I get it??
could a 4090 fit inside? i just bought one of these
I have a question what monitor do you recommend for this PC that cost from 200 to 300 dollars ? And what type of usb cables are compatible for Xbox series S controller ? (For example usb c cable). Just to let you know I never owned a PC.
for $300 get a good reviewed 1440p 165hz monitor. as for the series s controller you can use built in bt wireless or use any usb c to usb a or c cable.
None of the "buy" links work. This thing is either not released yet or out of stock everywhere.
It's not out yet, this guy only shows off systems that aren't out yet.
Soooo how much would this cost?
How would this do for virtual pinball with an Atgames pinball system.
Wow