I would love to see more tutorials on rough terrains with passenger! Posture, weight balance, hand position of pillion, sand and gravel etc., etc.. Thanks for great content!
Bret, had I heeded this video every time, I could have avoided a broken mirror, a heated discussion and a tired, cranky pillion. I'm glad to have watched it and knew this would be an effective solution. It is our standard loading procedure now.
Passenger first mount is the way I used to roll. I'm glad it's being suggested as the best way to go; And I'd recommend the same thinking for street only rides as well.
I couldn't have agreed more... My pillion experience has helped me so much to be a better, sharper and a more considerate rider... I wish this video was longer though... Got me interested!!!
Awesome. My dad finally got himself a bike yesterday after many many years of wanting to get back into it, an earlier model Triupmh Tiger 955i, we went for a ride yesterday it being my first time pillion but I have done a small amount of riding as well. My dad is much much smaller than me, hes about a foot shorter and 60kg lighter so it was a new experience for him as well and my god was it just the best experience I've had in a long while! I'm so happy for my dad and excited for our adventures to come :)
Great tips! For the last three years, since I started riding with my GF, she always climbed up the wrong way, as you describe, and a KTM 1190R with bags is a high mountain to climb up. We didnt know ant better than that. THANK YOU !!!
Hi Bret, excellent videos - thank you for doing these for us. I always strongly recommend to friends that ride motorcycles with a passenger to have an intercom in rider and passenger helmets, not only better safety by warning each other of pending events like "I need to accelerate quickly" but also makes motorcycling far more enjoyable to the passenger and builds better team work. A point that seems to be missing from this video.
My girlfriend used to fall asleep until we started tackling the dirt roads. Now she loves the alt route instead of the boring highways. Gonna try that tip about sitting the pillion down first
Thanks great video. I’ll show my wife. We’ll practice soon. Today was my first day riding in the rain. Home safely. Thanks to videos you and other riders produce. Thanks KLR James
Ha! Bret, Terri and I are super stoked about this topic! I think we were the inspiration from this weekend. You gave us some great direction and after Terri (bad knee) got herself mounted on the GS, I tried to mount up in the rider position and I needed some work on my balance. We worked on it on Sunday and it went a little pear-shaped, but we're working on it. We really appreciate you spending time with us this weekend on it; it was the highlight of the show for us.
Oh, thank you so much for this video! I was searching passengers adv riding tips so long with no results. Hope you can make some more videos. Like: how should passanger stand while me standing, how to feel balance, How to hold better in balance and so on.
Great tip on the mounting - unexperienced will even understand the center of the bike better that way and might have less fear that the bike will drop down with them.
What a great, new spin on ADV riding! Not much out there for tips on riding off road two-up. I'm sure it's quite the challenge but like you said, I'm sure it can be quite rewarding. Now this is a way of bonding with ones special someone I'd like to try. However, I can also see it leading to a fair amount of screaming... Guess I've found another quality way of screening for the right woman!
Thank you! I've been looking for a technique that wouldn't require the driver to have both feet flat. As a new rider, I intend to get more comfortable with driving solo first, but this is a vid to re-watch when the time comes.
This is a real important topic, I was always looking for such a topic for how the pillion can get over an adventure bike with all the luggage attached... Thank you so much for covering this topic. Also plz see if it is possible to make a video on adventure bikes and short rider...
1:21 Fun tip I was taught in training: Never place your helmet on the ground directly, use your gloves to act as a mat to prevent dust and dirt getting in to your helmet
Interesting, I like that method for a passenger getting on a bike. I will have to try it on my RT. I have a passenger who stands off the centerline a bit when getting on the bike and thankfully she is small enough that it doesn't pull me over much. If we were loaded up it might be a different story. This should help that.
Very interesting, I would love to see a video with even more details about the passenger interaction with the driver.I heard talk about it but never seen a video about it.Good job like always on your videos.
Great vid! It would be really helpfull to shoot another one to disclose more about various typical and non-typical situations during riding with passenger!
Thank you so much for this video, there is not much information about adventure biking with passenger, seems as adventure riders are all lone riders. I would like more videos involving this topic.
MOTOTREK I showed this boarding technique to my girlfriend and we decided to give it a try (we always have panniers on our bike) and it was just perfect, she feels more comfortable getting on the bike this way, and I feel more confident since I have to do less effort to keep the bike upright. Now we always try get on board this way. Thank you so much for this simple but yet practical tip.
Great Video... help me a lot.... simple, short... I would like to see more recommendations for a passenger. I love to ride with my partner in life, but we are both inexperienced rides.... thanks..
Charles Lwyer At the MSF Basic Rider Course, we got told a simple tip that works wonders: Tell the passenger to look over your shoulder depending on which side you are turning. For example, if you are turning right, your passenger should look over your right shoulder, and if left, over your left shoulder. They were referring to street riding, so I am not sure it works at all on dirt. That is all I can tell you, it is not much, but definitely works. Hope it helps you out.
Once you get a feel for the bike's center and balance, there is no "wrong side". Practice mounting from the high side like Bret demonstrates in the video and you'll learn quickly.
Hi I have been watching your channel for some time now and I have really learned a lot thanks keep up the good work. My wife goes all most every where with me on the back of my bike ( 1200 GS ) and we ride well together on pavement. I have yet to go off road with her yet. My question is. Is how different is riding off road with a pillion from riding off road on your own ? Do you both stand up on the pegs and the passenger do the same as the rider ? should she just lift off the seat when you are coming to a large bump/hole or do you treat her weight as luggage and ride as if you were solo ? A video on this would be awesome. Thanks in advance Drake. UK
I watched this video before setting off on a weekend trip... Started using the mounting tips for the passenger instead of the usual hold on... By day two the side stand snapped 😭😭😭 on a positive the passenger leaning while getting the bike of the stand was helping before it snapped
Hi Mototrek. I'm a fan and subscripber but I think this one is really bad advice. I've been trying this tip on my last trip with a fully loaded F 800 GS. My passenger always felt she was left hanging dangerously waiting for me, and finally on the 4th time the bike tipped over the side stand when I was getting on. Moreover, the side stand was not built to hold that much weight, and this could really cause some permanent damage to the bike (besides, of course, tipping on the ground).
Would love to have more videos about pillion riding, I'm not sure what advice to give to my wife when things get a bit gnarly, stand up with me, be dead like luggage. Standing up she might not be able to predict what I'll do and do the opposite.. Would be great to hear from someone who has experience..
You are the BEST on providing so may valuable tips, I live in California and like to know how to register for your classes on how best to ride heavy bikes like my new 2019 BMW GS1250A.
My girlfriend and I could really use more info on this topic. You mention standing up and leaning together but there are no mechanics presented. One thing I would REALLY like to be able to do is stand up and ride with her on the back but she says it's a no go. How does it work? It's not even shown here.
Some experienced adventure riders claim that you should not ride off road with passenger. And that it’s almost impossible and dangerous! But i want to. Are they wrong?
i want to know what must passanger do when the rider get stand up on his peg, because they ride on gravel, did passanger stand up to or just take a sit
Bret I have seen in this and other videos that you seem unconcerned with the amount of weight that you are putting on the side stand. Are they really that robust that they can withstand that amount of weight?
Adventure bikes need a good backrest for passengers. I have been taking my electra glide places it doesn’t belong just so my wife can stay comfortable on all day rides or multiple day rides. What I want is a touring bike with a little better ground clearance and long suspension travel. Why hasn’t anyone built us a bike like that. I have been wanting an adventure bike but my 51 year old wife needs something to lay back into.
That's not to far from what I was thinking. If you're a good enough rider to work as a team your likely good enough to just ride another bike. Is there some benefit I'm not seeing to riding 2 up?
Does anyone use this technique? It worries me that everything depends on the rider balancing several hundred kilos on their right leg/foot while kicking back the side stand with the left, especially on slippery surfaces.
I would love to see more tutorials on rough terrains with passenger! Posture, weight balance, hand position of pillion, sand and gravel etc., etc..
Thanks for great content!
Nice play... i love how the dialog set me up to expect Christina to be the passenger. Love it... well done.
Yes! More passenger videos like this please! Always look forward to your videos.
we will... a lot of interest from this one
Yes, please. This video feels like incomplete. Looking forward learning more tips and tricks driving adventure trips with passenger.
Cool, never thought of having the passenger mount first that way.
Bret, had I heeded this video every time, I could have avoided a broken mirror, a heated discussion and a tired, cranky pillion. I'm glad to have watched it and knew this would be an effective solution. It is our standard loading procedure now.
Passenger first mount is the way I used to roll. I'm glad it's being suggested as the best way to go; And I'd recommend the same thinking for street only rides as well.
Excellent tips. Passengers on the road requires some teamwork, but on trails even more so.
Nicolas Solberg true
I couldn't have agreed more... My pillion experience has helped me so much to be a better, sharper and a more considerate rider...
I wish this video was longer though... Got me interested!!!
Awesome. My dad finally got himself a bike yesterday after many many years of wanting to get back into it, an earlier model Triupmh Tiger 955i, we went for a ride yesterday it being my first time pillion but I have done a small amount of riding as well. My dad is much much smaller than me, hes about a foot shorter and 60kg lighter so it was a new experience for him as well and my god was it just the best experience I've had in a long while! I'm so happy for my dad and excited for our adventures to come :)
That's great!!
MOTOTREK thanks! I was impressed by the timing lol
Great tips! For the last three years, since I started riding with my GF, she always climbed up the wrong way, as you describe, and a KTM 1190R with bags is a high mountain to climb up. We didnt know ant better than that. THANK YOU !!!
Excellent!
Jaime Errasti you are welcome
Best how-to video for passengers on the internet!
Hi Bret, excellent videos - thank you for doing these for us. I always strongly recommend to friends that ride motorcycles with a passenger to have an intercom in rider and passenger helmets, not only better safety by warning each other of pending events like "I need to accelerate quickly" but also makes motorcycling far more enjoyable to the passenger and builds better team work. A point that seems to be missing from this video.
My girlfriend used to fall asleep until we started tackling the dirt roads. Now she loves the alt route instead of the boring highways. Gonna try that tip about sitting the pillion down first
falling asleep on a motorcycle seems terrifying
Thanks great video. I’ll show my wife. We’ll practice soon. Today was my first day riding in the rain. Home safely. Thanks to videos you and other riders produce.
Thanks KLR James
Good luck, James!
Another concise and informative video. I loved the tip about the passenger getting on first. 👍👍👍
Thanks, Brian. It works!
Ha! Bret, Terri and I are super stoked about this topic! I think we were the inspiration from this weekend. You gave us some great direction and after Terri (bad knee) got herself mounted on the GS, I tried to mount up in the rider position and I needed some work on my balance. We worked on it on Sunday and it went a little pear-shaped, but we're working on it. We really appreciate you spending time with us this weekend on it; it was the highlight of the show for us.
you were...
Oh, thank you so much for this video! I was searching passengers adv riding tips so long with no results. Hope you can make some more videos. Like: how should passanger stand while me standing, how to feel balance, How to hold better in balance and so on.
We're planning more passenger videos.
As always your videos are crisp and to the point. Thanks a lot for making these videos for us!
You're welcome!
Great tip on the mounting - unexperienced will even understand the center of the bike better that way and might have less fear that the bike will drop down with them.
Thanks!
What a great, new spin on ADV riding! Not much out there for tips on riding off road two-up. I'm sure it's quite the challenge but like you said, I'm sure it can be quite rewarding. Now this is a way of bonding with ones special someone I'd like to try. However, I can also see it leading to a fair amount of screaming... Guess I've found another quality way of screening for the right woman!
Glad we can help, Todd!
Is it weird this video is SO ROMANTIC to me?
Sheen Hunter yes
That was an excellent video as usual, straight and to the point.
Thanks!
Thank you! I've been looking for a technique that wouldn't require the driver to have both feet flat. As a new rider, I intend to get more comfortable with driving solo first, but this is a vid to re-watch when the time comes.
i would like to see more how a passanger should move on off road adventures! :O
MotorosVandor agreed.
Agreed.
My very first thought also. Sure would like to see various technical bits: Standing together, going uphill/downhill and turning all while standing.
yep +1
ok ok ok.... we will add more passenger videos to our list
WOW. That is some beautiful background scenery. Complemented with some great tips. Thanks MotoTrek. Keep being inspiring. 😊
Thanks! We're spoiled with green forests here in the pacific northwest.
This is a real important topic, I was always looking for such a topic for how the pillion can get over an adventure bike with all the luggage attached... Thank you so much for covering this topic.
Also plz see if it is possible to make a video on adventure bikes and short rider...
Short rider = good video idea!
@@MOTOTREK Hi i have never been pillion before i am looking for my first time and always wanted to go on back of a woman ride
@@MOTOTREK is christina available at all to take a first timer at all
1:21 Fun tip I was taught in training: Never place your helmet on the ground directly, use your gloves to act as a mat to prevent dust and dirt getting in to your helmet
Interesting, I like that method for a passenger getting on a bike. I will have to try it on my RT. I have a passenger who stands off the centerline a bit when getting on the bike and thankfully she is small enough that it doesn't pull me over much. If we were loaded up it might be a different story. This should help that.
Very interesting, I would love to see a video with even more details about the passenger interaction with the driver.I heard talk about it but never seen a video about it.Good job like always on your videos.
I need more of this! Riding the Chilean Patagonia this summer with my girlfriend! Thanks a lot!
Nice, more of this; especially specifics about standing and helping with traction.
Yes. We'll make more passenger videos.
Wow, I never thought this to be a possibility. Thanks so much. When I get a big bike I will try as you showed.
That was a magical and creative opening!
A very interesting perspective of being a passenger. Some very good tips
Great vid!
It would be really helpfull to shoot another one to disclose more about various typical and non-typical situations during riding with passenger!
We will, Vitalii.
Good tips and Video, Great to Christina riding like a pro since we all rode with Shane Watts in Lebanon. You guys Rock!!
Thanks!
Very nice, reframing your role here as the passenger 👏
Great video! Now... I just can't imagine how would the passenger stand up, care to demonstrate?
I mostly ride solo.
Thank you!
I was thinking the same thing! it sounds like it would be difficult to do without leaning a lot into the rider.
I was thinking hands on pilot shoulders, but that seems a little sketchy
Rômulo Almeida they just stand with hand on drivers hips. Not the shoulders. It isnt too bad actually. My wife does it all the time
Hi, excellent tips. I would love to learn more about ride with a passenger. Thank you
We're planning more passenger videos, Josenivaldo.
Good job Bret!
Thanks!
Excellent tips, thank you .
Love the short presentations
Glad you like it, John!
Thank you so much for this video, there is not much information about adventure biking with passenger, seems as adventure riders are all lone riders. I would like more videos involving this topic.
More passenger videos are coming, Santiago!
MOTOTREK I showed this boarding technique to my girlfriend and we decided to give it a try (we always have panniers on our bike) and it was just perfect, she feels more comfortable getting on the bike this way, and I feel more confident since I have to do less effort to keep the bike upright. Now we always try get on board this way. Thank you so much for this simple but yet practical tip.
best method i have seen yet, should have small section at rider training. Really enjoy your vids mate, keep it up.
Great Video... help me a lot.... simple, short... I would like to see more recommendations for a passenger. I love to ride with my partner in life, but we are both inexperienced rides.... thanks..
Charles Lwyer At the MSF Basic Rider Course, we got told a simple tip that works wonders: Tell the passenger to look over your shoulder depending on which side you are turning. For example, if you are turning right, your passenger should look over your right shoulder, and if left, over your left shoulder.
They were referring to street riding, so I am not sure it works at all on dirt.
That is all I can tell you, it is not much, but definitely works.
Hope it helps you out.
So useful , thanks very much for sharing.
Please make more videos on Long ride with passenger. And tips for passenger ~
GO CHRISTINA!!!
:)
Great video!
Good stufff. Was expecting more concrete advise like the one mentioned in beginning,
Thanks!
Hmmm, I'll have to give this a try next time I take a pillion. Seems challenging to me to board the bike from the "wrong" side.
Once you get a feel for the bike's center and balance, there is no "wrong side". Practice mounting from the high side like Bret demonstrates in the video and you'll learn quickly.
Very good tip thanks
Definitely learned something there. More on this subject please.
Please make another more detailed video about this topic (two people on adv bike) :)
my life was horrible without first seeing rste video hahah
Hi I have been watching your channel for some time now and I have really learned a lot thanks keep up the good work.
My wife goes all most every where with me on the back of my bike ( 1200 GS ) and we ride well together on pavement. I have yet to go off road with her yet. My question is. Is how different is riding off road with a pillion from riding off road on your own ?
Do you both stand up on the pegs and the passenger do the same as the rider ?
should she just lift off the seat when you are coming to a large bump/hole or do you treat her weight as luggage and ride as if you were solo ?
A video on this would be awesome.
Thanks in advance Drake. UK
I watched this video before setting off on a weekend trip... Started using the mounting tips for the passenger instead of the usual hold on... By day two the side stand snapped 😭😭😭 on a positive the passenger leaning while getting the bike of the stand was helping before it snapped
Great points
Hi Mototrek. I'm a fan and subscripber but I think this one is really bad advice.
I've been trying this tip on my last trip with a fully loaded F 800 GS. My passenger always felt she was left hanging dangerously waiting for me, and finally on the 4th time the bike tipped over the side stand when I was getting on.
Moreover, the side stand was not built to hold that much weight, and this could really cause some permanent damage to the bike (besides, of course, tipping on the ground).
Would love to have more videos about pillion riding, I'm not sure what advice to give to my wife when things get a bit gnarly, stand up with me, be dead like luggage. Standing up she might not be able to predict what I'll do and do the opposite.. Would be great to hear from someone who has experience..
We're planning more passenger videos, Nico.
Thanks thats very informative, I have been doing the opposite for so long !!!
You are the BEST on providing so may valuable tips, I live in California and like to know how to register for your classes on how best to ride heavy bikes like my new 2019 BMW GS1250A.
Www.TourUSA.us or www.pssor.com
My girlfriend and I could really use more info on this topic. You mention standing up and leaning together but there are no mechanics presented. One thing I would REALLY like to be able to do is stand up and ride with her on the back but she says it's a no go. How does it work? It's not even shown here.
So if my understanding is right, you have to put your passenger in a bag, thank you for the tip !
Great video, thanks.
You're welcome.
great tip, we want to to that the next time excytly as it shows in this video, thanks a lot
Thank you for the video!
Thanks brett!
Good technique demonstration, wanted to check are you performing any adventure riding training in India
Thanks, Tarun.
Where in India are you?
Email us at info@mototrek.net for training info.
Another gooder !
Thanks, Bobby!
Great tip
Thanks, David.
I love it!
Ha. I knew the bag would have a person exit the moment the camera frame switched to the zipper pull.
Yerim ben sizi.. Bu ne uyum kardeşimm...9))) What a wonderfull couple and passenger smooth behaviour. lovely
that intro cracked me up :D:D:D
Some experienced adventure riders claim that you should not ride off road with passenger. And that it’s almost impossible and dangerous! But i want to. Are they wrong?
Lots of people do it, Roman, but it can be riskier.
Can you give us any more pillion adv riding techniques? Please? Pretty Please with a cherry on top?
Nice tip, I'll try it with my son tomorrow. Let the wife at home 😁
my suspension is soft and set for just me.. when my pillon and gear are loaded up you really have to lean er over to get that side stand up...
Bret, please may I ask which cases were on that Tiger? Are those Bumots?
i want to know what must passanger do when the rider get stand up on his peg, because they ride on gravel, did passanger stand up to or just take a sit
Bret I have seen in this and other videos that you seem unconcerned with the amount of weight that you are putting on the side stand. Are they really that robust that they can withstand that amount of weight?
Rick Stenson the way I mount the bike I unweight the side stand even when I mount from the lowside. A detail best taught in person
Rick Stenson ua-cam.com/video/bArxh0UV_98/v-deo.html
Adventure bikes need a good backrest for passengers. I have been taking my electra glide places it doesn’t belong just so my wife can stay comfortable on all day rides or multiple day rides.
What I want is a touring bike with a little better ground clearance and long suspension travel. Why hasn’t anyone built us a bike like that.
I have been wanting an adventure bike but my 51 year old wife needs something to lay back into.
Tip #1: Get your own #&$* bike! Hahaha. Just kidding! Great vid as usual. Would love to see how two-up riding standing works.
That's not to far from what I was thinking. If you're a good enough rider to work as a team your likely good enough to just ride another bike. Is there some benefit I'm not seeing to riding 2 up?
And what about dismounting ? In what order do you sujets ?
Lost count of the number of bags I have opened and I have yet to find a cute strawberry blonde inside any of them :-)
1:25 step up onto my Africa Twin like that and over it would go toward you to the right !
I'm gona show the first 10 seconds of the video to the wife 😆 🤣 😂
How does the passenger stand up with the driver? Waist grab? Shoulder?
Yes I want to know this too. Obv can't just stand and not hold on
Hello, anybody knows the part number for those rear/passenger foot pegs ? Or an alternative? the rubber in the original ones is slippery.
Wait, what?! The rider is a lady and a mans on the back?! Mind blown!
(Just joking XD)
wow. may i know whats the height of the lady rider? tnx
Dang he threw her on the ground lol
Does anyone use this technique? It worries me that everything depends on the rider balancing several hundred kilos on their right leg/foot while kicking back the side stand with the left, especially on slippery surfaces.
Nice way to get your pillion passenger legs toasted, not everyone rides a BMW.
👌
Hi bro
Cbr 150r pillion
Long tur posebal
If could only convince my wife to ride with me 😩
1980
Not happy with the fact I have to watch cameltoe harriest ads to get to your content🤔
bike more stable without rider? LOL. nonsense.
Please explain.