The room stands for roughly 70% of the sound quality. Many overlook this fact and spend alot of time and money on equipment while better sound could be had with pretty modest (correctly done) room treatment..
i used this kind of panels in the back with a baffle wall behind it. cut out space for the surround backs and fitted them in there. now i have a flat surface with 20cm basotect behind it... works fantastic without taking to much energy. the room got much bigger soundwise. it almost sounds like the backwall is 3 meters away from seating position and not 1,5m physicaly. highly recomend for side and back walls... also for the roof! but i suggest to put at least 10cm of fiber or basotect behind it to treat the lower mids aswell.
They also make suggestions to furr out the wall and put rockwool or rigid fiberlass batts behind panels for better bass trapping, but still allow some diffusion from the wood slats.
The room has a ton of combo panels (two different types) behind the fabric including where these were installed. There's not a lot of straight up absorption in the room, Only where needed.
Congratulations on the dedicated room. Do you have measurements with all the acoustic treatment as of today? Can you put the .mdat file to see the acoustics of the room? It's just curious to see the ETC,Filtered IR,Waterfall,Spectrogram,RT60 ( Topt,T20,T30 ).
Hey Juan, yeah i've done those but they'd have very little value on the channel as hardly anyone cares about that info. Treat the room with the proper mix, place subs and seats properly and it all falls into place.
@@hometheatergurus Thanks for answering. In my particular case, it is what I look at the most, for me the well-tuned acoustic treatment and the more powerful and customizable room calibration are the 2 most important parameters in the final result. Claro is having the best possible location of the speakers and listening point. I will be attentive to your channel in case one day you talk about the material used in your acoustic treatment (for example, the value of the air flow passage of the filling used in your panels) and corresponding measurements.
Sure as Lexa said you just use acoustic fabric but man I'd hate to covers these panels up. It's hard to capture how good they look in video/pics but in person they really look awesome.
There's a lot more nails that it may look like in the video. Probably 9 brads per upper panel (12" wide section). But no they don't move. I have 1/2" plywood back there that i'm nailing into. Brad nails are used for trim and likely what was used to install all of the trim in your very own house.
Is it recommended to put this behind the TV? I was thinking about aesthetics and improving sound quality. My intention is to put 2 on wall speakers beside the TV because the house is prewired.
Ha.. I guess I could do a finished house walk through and show it off but I still have a few things to do this year. Kitchen backsplashes, Living room feature wall, hall book shelves..
@@hometheatergurus Tell me about it, I've been on with my current house renovations/build for over 3 years now 🤮& this summer I need to completely rip off the roof including all of the timbers etc & re-build it so yet more fun times ahead. I'm just finishing my gym now & the home cinema build starts next year though so just gotta keep thinking of that to get me through it
Theater drapes aren't really a valid treatment. They'll kill the upper frequencies but only extend so low in frequency. Killing upper frequencies aren't always a good thing.
@@Tearial311 ahh Yeah 3d diffusers. I thought you means combo slat panels in plastic. I've never seen those in plastic and of course plastic doesnt absorb.
@@hometheatergurus Cool, removing a few would help to trick our ears intonot picking up where the reflections are coming from but im sure it still sounds great :) There is plenty of info on the net about binary slat absorbers which is pretty interesting to learn. Another great video though. I followed your REW instructions a few years ago and your videos still hold strong to this day and I see people often suggesting them on forums
@BoredSilly thanks. I'm actually familiar with binary slats and they are great. I try to make videos that will be relevant for the long term and it's great to be able to help improve peoples rooms. That REW video was a beast to make.
The room stands for roughly 70% of the sound quality. Many overlook this fact and spend alot of time and money on equipment while better sound could be had with pretty modest (correctly done) room treatment..
Completely agree!!!
looks great. I think folks most need help with how you map out where to locate your panels.
Thanks. I actually have a 4 part series on just that. See the channels videos.
i used this kind of panels in the back with a baffle wall behind it. cut out space for the surround backs and fitted them in there. now i have a flat surface with 20cm basotect behind it... works fantastic without taking to much energy. the room got much bigger soundwise. it almost sounds like the backwall is 3 meters away from seating position and not 1,5m physicaly. highly recomend for side and back walls... also for the roof! but i suggest to put at least 10cm of fiber or basotect behind it to treat the lower mids aswell.
yeah it looks so good in room. There is extra absorption behind it and I also showed in the video the specs with and without adding more.
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They also make suggestions to furr out the wall and put rockwool or rigid fiberlass batts behind panels for better bass trapping, but still allow some diffusion from the wood slats.
Yep, that is mentioned in the video as I did that in my room and discussed why.
Would love to understand the methodology related to placement/your theater’s acoustics and did you do a comp EQ from before and after?
yeah same. maybe he just found his room sounded too dead and it needed some diffusion?
The room has a ton of combo panels (two different types) behind the fabric including where these were installed. There's not a lot of straight up absorption in the room, Only where needed.
Look in the videos about 3 years back. I did video series on different panels and what to use where.
Very nice 👍🏻
Thanks!
Congratulations on the dedicated room.
Do you have measurements with all the acoustic treatment as of today?
Can you put the .mdat file to see the acoustics of the room?
It's just curious to see the ETC,Filtered IR,Waterfall,Spectrogram,RT60 ( Topt,T20,T30 ).
Hey Juan, yeah i've done those but they'd have very little value on the channel as hardly anyone cares about that info. Treat the room with the proper mix, place subs and seats properly and it all falls into place.
@@hometheatergurus Thanks for answering.
In my particular case, it is what I look at the most, for me the well-tuned acoustic treatment and the more powerful and customizable room calibration are the 2 most important parameters in the final result.
Claro is having the best possible location of the speakers and listening point.
I will be attentive to your channel in case one day you talk about the material used in your acoustic treatment (for example, the value of the air flow passage of the filling used in your panels) and corresponding measurements.
Looks great!! Do you have a favorite movie scene that you love to demo in your theater?
Thanks. Not really a movie scene but my favorite demo is the Atmos demo "Leaf".
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I have all those Dolby Demos, too. I like them because they are short and sweet.
Can u put them behind the wall fabric or would that be a bad idea
as long as that fabric is acoustically transparent, i feel like this would be a viable option too. I've been thinking about that myself
Sure as Lexa said you just use acoustic fabric but man I'd hate to covers these panels up. It's hard to capture how good they look in video/pics but in person they really look awesome.
the bass doesnt shake them off? only using the brad nailer.... very impressive and looks very nice
There's a lot more nails that it may look like in the video. Probably 9 brads per upper panel (12" wide section). But no they don't move. I have 1/2" plywood back there that i'm nailing into. Brad nails are used for trim and likely what was used to install all of the trim in your very own house.
How much of the Walls should be covered Can i cover all my Walls with those panels?
Is it recommended to put this behind the TV? I was thinking about aesthetics and improving sound quality. My intention is to put 2 on wall speakers beside the TV because the house is prewired.
Is there a home gym tour on the cards? 😜
Ha.. I guess I could do a finished house walk through and show it off but I still have a few things to do this year. Kitchen backsplashes, Living room feature wall, hall book shelves..
@@hometheatergurus obviously all the boring house stuff gets done after the home cinema & gym 💪😅📽
@@northeastcorals haha... Yeah I'm definitely in the "I don't wanna" stage of the house upgrades.
@@hometheatergurus Tell me about it, I've been on with my current house renovations/build for over 3 years now 🤮& this summer I need to completely rip off the roof including all of the timbers etc & re-build it so yet more fun times ahead. I'm just finishing my gym now & the home cinema build starts next year though so just gotta keep thinking of that to get me through it
What are right places to put those in bedroom home theater
See the channel videos and look back a few years ago. You'll find a 4 part series covering types of panels and the last one gets into placement.
Looks like you brad nailed them to insulation panels underneath? Is that rigid enough/solid enough to hold the nails?
I have 1/2" plywood behind the insulation. I planned for this in the build.
Does these work as good as the traditional theater drapes?
Theater drapes aren't really a valid treatment. They'll kill the upper frequencies but only extend so low in frequency. Killing upper frequencies aren't always a good thing.
@@hometheatergurus Understood. 👍
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Use the code HTGURUS for 10 percent.
Just use GIK impression series and much easier and sound better.
I make my own with wood, and it sounds excellent. The plastic stuff they sell online make me cringe
Plastic.. I haven't seen that stuff.
@@hometheatergurus auralex makes plastic diffusers
@@Tearial311 ahh Yeah 3d diffusers. I thought you means combo slat panels in plastic. I've never seen those in plastic and of course plastic doesnt absorb.
Yep you get plastic slats that look like wood but obviously have no help whatsoever
A binary pattern would have been much better as it provides far less localization
This panel identifies as slat... 😎
@@hometheatergurus Cool, removing a few would help to trick our ears intonot picking up where the reflections are coming from but im sure it still sounds great :) There is plenty of info on the net about binary slat absorbers which is pretty interesting to learn. Another great video though. I followed your REW instructions a few years ago and your videos still hold strong to this day and I see people often suggesting them on forums
@BoredSilly thanks. I'm actually familiar with binary slats and they are great.
I try to make videos that will be relevant for the long term and it's great to be able to help improve peoples rooms. That REW video was a beast to make.