I think Halloween Kills is on par with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2022 in that they're both some of the worst slasher requels in history. HK has great kills, soundtrack, amazing flashback sequence, and atmosphere. But everything else was so loser. This movie is just so... like we live in a post-Scream era, you'd think the characters would be more aware. Not in terms of meta horror commentary but just not making stupid decisions 🙄 like why was no one aiming for Michael's head in that last scene when they're beating him up?
I'm pushing back on your push back on Halloween 2 (2009): in addition to being punk rock, Rob’s camera is a thing of beauty. Just watch that swooping tracking shot as Loomis and his assistant walk into his lecture through the lobby. And then we get his brutal shaky cams of poor Annie’s death and the Rob’s intimate and painful close-ups of Laurie cradling her dying body. Rob writes his own rules in Halloween 2 and tells a tale of brutal family reconciliation. But I still loves ya!
@@DavidJackson-vj2oi The white horse in dreams can symbolize power, purity and peace, the latter in particular is what I felt the movie was ultimately about, Michael, like Frankenstein’s monster, is, I believe, seeking peace by reuniting his family...in the big sleep. Hey, I ain't saying it isn't wacky, but it worked for me!
@@DavidJackson-vj2oi I think that's the point, tho: the only way Michael knows how to reunite his family, which includes himself as a child, is by killing everybody.
I still defend Hereditary. It gets a lot of hate. People joke about the ending with the Burger King crown...hehe. Oh well, it's their opinion, that's fine. I don't get the praise for Cabin in the Woods either. It's not horrible. Could have been so much better. I don't get Thor's death scene. Why was it filmed in a way to shock us? We knew what was going to happen. Didn't they show us the force field earlier? Oh well, Thor falls to his death into CGI land.
That scream fact was really true. I mean Scream 4 did not have enough Gale, Dewey and Sidney but Scream 5 said Go die and gave us like 1% of the film to see them
I’m entirely impressed that people participated in this with some interesting takes for you to make a funny video. I was surprised you actually roasted the hell out of some people with such a straight face lol. - On a side note, I just remembered a hidden gem of a horror movie not too many people talk about but one I remember as being VERY good. It’s called High Tendion (2003) and I’d absolutely love to hear your thoughts on it one day!
A couple of what I consider hot takes: Halloween 1, 2, and H20 is the best trilogy this franchise will see. The weaknesses that are in the newer ones, as good as they are, aren't ever going to allow them to match up to the level of satisfaction we had seeing Laurie chopping Michael's head off at the end. Friday the 13th would have been a forgotten slasher much like The Burning had they not chosen to do a sequel. It simply wasn't good enough to stand on its own. Child's Play 3 is underrated and is a pretty solid sequel. People tend to pigeon hole horror into a formula and that is why elevated horror is so polarizing. The 2000s was not the weaker decade for horror. That belongs to the 90s. Scream and I Know What You Did Last Summer came in to save the decade at the end, but before that the 90s were dry after Candyman. Even most of your high impact slasher baddies had mediocre if not terrible sequels and had it not been for Wes Craven, we wouldn't be where we are.
Hell no Sam from trick or treat is a top tier horror character. He has one awesome movie. The reason he isn't as popular is because he didn't get an initial theatre release. He may not be as popular but he is definetly on the same level as some of the most popular horror icons
Scream is a teen Horror bore . Can't do it .I like the original and Scream 4 . The rest MEH. Esp the new one it was them trying to recreate the original. And it's not even close . I gave it a 1 out of 5
You have a new subscriber. Not that it matters, as meeting me is a overrated experience, but you can thank the merkins for this. I sure do! I share MANY of your opinions about horror films and look forward to seeing more of your content!
Genuinely freaked when you read & agreed with my opinion of Insidious over the conjuring.. I was instantly obsessed with the first Insidious and anxiously waiting for the series to continue.. With The Conjuring, I saw the first film twice when it came out, and honestly didn’t care much for it .. I only recently watched the second & third (still haven’t made it to the Annabelle films, and other spin-offs) I just think that the insidious franchise is some of James Wan’s best in terms of plot and scare factor.. the conjuring never made me flinch while Insidious had me terrified that the red face demon was lurking in my bedroom corner for days Much love to you and this channel 🤍🖤
Even though Robert Englund and the Freddy character are iconic, but the movies don’t scare me anymore and other than the original and part 3 the rest are hard for me to watch.
@@ashleyburchettajleefanlove4683 fair enough. Freddy Vs Jason’s not bad, I forgot this. I would have to see The Dream Master again, I haven’t seen it in a while.
The only movies people tend to call overrated are ones that are widely loved by the masses. Isn’t that the definition of overrated? Also, I think it’s possible to think something is overrated yet respect the legacy and success of the film. Just my 2 cents. I feel bad about the heated argument we got into last time lol
Overrated means “rated or valued too highly” so it depends on the actual quality of the movie. And that’s a fair point I agreed that I think Halloween as a movie is a little overrated. But the legacy is not, the film was made under standards of a bygone era, and I think a movie and its legacy go in tandem so I generally wouldn’t describe Halloween as overrated
Even though this isn’t as much of an unpopular opinion. I’m never cared for the TCM franchise I only enjoyed the first installment & 2003 remake. I don’t like 2016 The Witch wasn’t my cup of tea. David Cronenberg body horror films have also never been my cup of tea; besides The Fly, The Brood, VideoDrome. I found most of his film very hard to rewatch you’d gotta be in a certain mood to be invested. Jackie Earle Haley is an outstanding Freddy very menacing creepy & brings the villain character out.
To use your own words, you can't say a movie isn't a masterpiece just because you didn't like it ;) You can't compare scientific facts like gravity (that's something absolutely real whether we as humans agree or not) to a movie's quality, and sadly, that's something humans do way too often. We don't like our own tastes challenged and not agreed by others, so we cling to words like "objectively" to try to pass our own judgement as fact. I love what I love, other people love what they love. I rarely qualify any movie as bad, even if I hate it, because for someone else it could be the best thing ever
You completely miss my point. There’s a reason why people can get a masters degree in film. There are objective truths about film. It has nothing to do with entertainment value or how much you like something which is what you’re talking about right now
Totally agree with you about F13 remake, really enjoy that movie. Outside of Adrienne King and Betsy Palmer, I like the original less and less (and they killed a rat snake, something I can’t forgive). Also love part 5💪🏼
Friday the 13th Part 4 to 6 is my favorite movies of the series. I know a lot of people say 4 and 6 are their favorite but I feel like 5 is the perfect middle for them.
Your roast of my comment about 80s horror was actually the point I was trying to make 😛 I feel a lot of horror fans put 80s horror on this pedestal, like every film from that decade was a masterpiece, but the reality is there were just as many hits and misses as any other decade.
Seen this vid was up when I got to work this morning, waited all day to get home and watch it, totally worth it 👍🏻 I didn’t get roasted much 😅. But I feel I can genuinely engage in a good horror discussion here, even if I hard disagree with yours and other users opinions. Unlike reddit and a few fb horror groups I’m in, always just the same generic shit there. Trying to find somewhere to have good discussions about ideas and opinions on horror films, horror genres etc. is proving to be nearly impossible. Last but not least, may I recommend a film, if you have not seen it. It’s an Aussie horror film called The Loved ones, from 2009. Takes a while to get going, but the acting from the psycho girl, her dad and especially the guy, who is the main victim, Is top notch.
Glad you feel that way! I have seen The Loved Ones and that style of movie is just not for me. There’s a lot that’s done well in it but I’m not big on torture porn body horror type stuff. I mean I love the Saw franchise, but for the plot 😬
@@HauntedHippie All good, I’m never too sure what Aussie films get seen elsewhere. Or if they get talked about, only ever see the obvious more well known ones like The Babadook and Wolf Creek being discussed. As for Saw, I’ve never bothered to watch anymore after 2, for what ever reason 🤷🏼♂️😂
I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but I hated Midsommar at first. Like, hated it. However, the more I sat with it after watching, I started to get it and it made more sense and I actually love it now. First watch though, no. Absolutely not.
omg we really have so many of the same opinions and taste!! loooove the ring, chucky used to scare me when i was little and watched all of those movies recently as well! also love halloween 2018! i loved this video keep killing it
I feel both Rob Zombie films in the Halloween franchise are the best. I feel both are masterpieces. They gave Michael the "Batman Begins" treatment, and it worked and was very well received at the time. I don't see much room for objective criticism, obviously tons for subjective.
When talking about a medium that people can get a masters degree in, there’s always room for objective criticism. So you can feel that way all you want but it’s just not true lmao. Neither of those movies have ever been well received. The first one just made money so the studio decided to make a second.
@@HauntedHippie I do recall the 1st being well received by most horror fans. I just don't know if degrees can't quite quantifiy the right to say what's objective. Not to say you don't make a great point of thought. Not saying your wrong, perhaps you're right, but I feel these movies still hold up, at the least they have continuity which has been lacking in the franchise till late. I could probably argue forever on objectivity and subjectivity in movies and music, but again, great point to bring up, even if we disagree. Just discovered your channel, will continue to watch. 👻
This was a fun video, you should do more of these in the future. I of course have some unpopular opinions myself, here's a few of them. Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors I don't like it as much as most people, I hated Nancy getting killed off for no reason, and the whole thing with Freddy's mother and the holy water felt pointless because he comes back in a sequel. I'm okay with the new Halloween movies doing away with the brother sister angle, because it always felt corny and if you go back and watch Halloween 2 it didn't even make sense in the context of that movie, the reveal just comes out of nowhere with zero build up, I also don't care for most of the sequels.
heeeyy!! hehe you included some of mine!! 💅🏻💅🏻 i’m glad you agree that shudder has some fairly bad original films lol, but i honestly might get it again to watch those FIRE documentaries/docu-series and shows!! 😍✨ edit- i actually just thought of the most unpopular horror opinion i have: i love jumpscares in horror even if they are poorly done i just LOVE the feeling after getting spooked heheh :)
Oh come on, of freaking course the Rob Zombie's Halloween films are no means academy-award winning horror movies. Those films are horrendous. Same goes to Halloween 3: Season of the Witch, which can go screw off forever and will always be my least favorite Halloween film. Anyways, about the big three horror movie icons being A-tier, I feel that Chucky would fit perfectly at the top along with Krueger, Voorhees and Myers. Speaking of the horror movie killers, I heard that there might be a possible crossover of Child's Play and A Nightmare on Elm Street, simply called "Child's Play on Elm Street" following the success of Freddy vs. Jason. I REALLY hope that comes to fruition.
My unpopular opinions, come and roast me I prefer Carrie 2013 over the original, it's one of my favourite books, I felt it did it more justice. I enjoy RZ Halloween 2 (the theatrical cut anyway) it's a guilty pleasure. I like RZ as a director but can agree Halloween is out of his element. Friday 13th Part 2 is my favourite Friday film, in fact I only rewatch the first 2 in the franchise. Blair Witch 2: Book Of Shadows (despite the weird choices the studio forced in) is underrated and ahead of its time. All 6 of the Milla Jovovich Resident Evil films are my ultimate guilty pleasure, I can't defend them they're just fun. Saw 6 is my favourite Saw film, love the traps, the story and the callbacks to past films including the return of Shawnee Smith.
Nightmare 2 and 5 aren't bad and 3 is overrated (still a fav). Wes Craven was wrong about not wanting sequels. Freddy is least scary in New Nightmare. The best Friday the 13th movies are the ones everyone hates because they actually tried something different. Most of the Friday movies are boring. As much as Halloween did for slashers, it's boring as hell and that Shatner mask isn't scary. Chucky is actually scary. The fact that he is small makes him scarier because he's stealthy. I don't care for the new wave of supposed great horror. Most of them bore me. I don't think horror is scarier when you see less of the monster and hate when shit is too dark to see anything. Like I really wish they had some well lit scenes in rhe 1st Nightmare because the makeup is so good.
Wow what a great look! Like a new and improved version of 'Elvira: Mistress of the Dark' (I love that movie!). Also young lady, you've got great friggin' taste! I like how you speak your mind and you don't 'go with the flow'. If you don't like something, "bugger to that!" (British accent there). 'The Boy Behind the Door' OMG, that movie was 'BRUTAL!'. Maybe because it centers on two kids and you kinda feel more empathy for what happens to them and you want them to survive. It was really good. As for 'The Exorcist', I'd say it's a great movie (I'm of the older generation), but it doesn't come close (imho) to 'The Omen' in terms of the sheer terror you feel. Maybe it's something to do with the gruesome death scenes (hats off - no pun intended, to one of the best on-screen decapitations ever). Or it could be the fact that the Oscar winning score was so eerie and atmospheric, or that you actually get to see the very personification of the Devil's child on screen. Do you know any other movies where they show the death scene from different angles? I can only think of one at the moment, 'The Fury' from Brian De Palma with Cassavetes' death (very visceral!). You need to get a list together for the most brutal death scenes and I'd include 'Casino' which isn't a horror movie and 'Rise of the Footsoldier'.
Absolutely LOVED this ROAAAAST !!! You ended me but I forgive you lmaoooo . I honestly agree with you when people hate on popular movies when their stories are super well built , I understand hating on a popular film like Friday the 13th but come on hating on hereditary and saying is overrated is meh. Kylie I WOULD love to see a ranking from them ring franchise ( from ringu 1998 until rings 2017 ) omg omg
If the Exorcist is overrated, then I don’t see how Hereditary cannot be overrated. They are around the same quality, with the slight edge to Hereditary. I love both of them. I’ve also heard that people laugh at both of them so they have that in common Edit: also my point wasn’t that Scream doesn’t understand horror, but that it did not understand it as much as it think it does. They miss a couple of things, with the two movies don’t really understand like sequels in Scream 2, and *especially* Scream 3 which doesn’t understand how trilogies work at all. Also the “rules” of horror films aren’t really super accurate with the exception of Halloween. It definitely get the spirit and understanding of the fans right, but the tropes in slasher films aren’t so black and white.
@@HauntedHippie I haven’t seen either movie in years so I cannot speak exactly but I saw them at around the same time and I didn’t find much difference in quality. I guess maybe Hereditary was more shocking with the kid dying, and a bit more scary, but both are movies that are carried by the actors, which is very rare in horror movies, so I think they at least share that in common. You don’t need to write reason why I’m wrong, you are probably more knowledgeable than I am and I’m ill prepared for a debate. However, when you said you saw it as a comedy, I was kinda confused, because I’ve heard that used for Hereditary a lot. I remember my friend telling me about people laughing in the theater.
Some good takes, I guess mine would be that Death proof is a great film. I don't get why it has so much hate. Also hereditary is insanely influeneced by this film kill list which I kinda think that it deserves more appreciation.
@@HauntedHippieI don’t have to if anybody thinks that the remake is better than the original 1984 movie or the remake Freddy is more intimidating than the original you’re stupid and honestly don’t understand what made the original Freddy so iconic you need to watch the movies over and over again to understand
I think Hereditary was a good movie, I enjoyed it. That being said, I don't think it was as scary as people made it out to be. I was disappointed on that front. Maybe if I hadn't heard all this crap before I saw it and went in blind I'd feel differently but here we are 🤷🏼♀️
Love the explanation about agreeing on certain basic principles, objective reality. Gotta have some common ground or else like you said, you get 2 + 2 equals 5, and people will stand by that
John Carpenter's Vampires is my favourite vampire film. Probably the best in my opinion (Afflicted is close behind that, and Redwood is close behind that one). I heard the sequels were dogshit, but I haven't checked those out, so I've got no concrete opinion on those. Maybe I'll end up enjoying them more, but who knows. Furthermore, zombie movies are boring.
For me Scream 4 is the worst Scream (but a good one. I think it's a pretty consistent franchise) because those merits you mention (How great is Jill and its brilliant social commentary) only exists in the climax of the movie. BEFORE that, Jill was boring. All the new characters were totally forgetable (except Kirby), no intense chases, no clever kills. The pretitle sequence is so fun the first time you watch it, but that's it. The movie was about Jill, not Sidney. If Jill were Gale's cousin, the story would be the same. The last 30% of Scream 4 is fantastic, the previous 70% is mediocre at best. That's why I see it as the weakest one. I think it has its fans because it was the first Scream for a new generation, that's it. And the best part is at the end, so it leaves you with a good taste.
I do agree it's not that exciting for a good portion but like you said it is a consistent franchise so it's not bad. I think that 3 is the worst just because of the voice changer having anyone's voice say anything
@@lance6689 I quite like the voice gadget. It makes that Ghostface unique. I love Scream 3. I love the Hollywood setting, Cotton's sequence, it's the only one with only adults in the cast (no more teens), memorable scenes, a cool mystery about Maureen Prescott, it talked about #metoo many years before (and produced by Harvey Weinstein... oh the irony). I think it's much better than Scream 4. But yes, Scream 4 is good too. I love all of them.
I’m not a fan of the Evil Dead movies besides Evil dead 2 dead by dawn I’d found the overall Subplots, Action , the effects to be very campy, dated, silly for its own good. Besides some folks hating on Hereditary which is on my top 50 horror films of all time, you felt the dramatic tension, the characters Annie, Peter, Charlie, Steve the overall experience while unlawful things was happening around them. so for folks calling it overrated they don’t care for Ari Aster filmmaking style. which is fine but it felt so enriching to me & love it. After watching A quiet place 2 id tend to agree on the rules of logic just falls out the window, while making some of the most dumb decisions possible. While I’d still found it entertaining and Cillian Murphy, Emily blunt gave solid performances. It doesn’t have the same impact as the first.
I love you're responses not a afraid to speak the truth dropping truth bombs . I know that your and my thoughts and opinions are pretty much dead on. I just don't get why people take everything so serious now a days people freak out because you got a different opinion then there's. I find everything is one-sided nowadays. People stop freaking out over movies there movie and fictional characters get over it. Anyways that was my rant love you Haunted hippie
Halloween 3 is a better movie than a few of the others and evil dead is not a remake it doesn't have the same characters as the original, the cabin my be the same and the necklace and the tree scene may be but not a remake and not as good as the original. The phantasm franchise is my favorite, the tall man is the best horror villain.
@@HauntedHippie yeah most people don't realise that but I think you should make a video on it. By the way new fan here, love what you do and all the best on your upcoming short movie. 😇
I absolutely hate the term 'elevated horror' because it implies that the genre is generally low brow (something the old white Hollywood elites running the oscars seem to agree on) and that them being highly artistic is a newer phenomenon. Horror is and always has been the most artistically vast, creative, progressive and empathetic genre though. Even in the very beginning Frankenstein was ahead of it's time and got a whole new dimension to it's themes through the man who played the 'monster'. Or the racial commentary in Night of the Living Dead. Pasolini's Salò is still one of the best and important anti-fascist movies ever made and has staggering amounts of detail in it's depiction and deconstruction of that cancer of an ideology. And movies like Possession 1981 or Tetsuo The Iron Man would fit right in with A24's other horror stuff if they were made today. Long rant but horror is the most important genre and I stand by that.
i see where your coming from on rob zombies Halloween not being a masterpiece. But in general everybody has there own masterpieces in there own minds. Tbh I used to think RZ Halloween was a masterpiece but as i grew older and my mind matured and movie taste expanded I don't think that anymore.
Maybe it´s just me, but i really think that Kylie look alot like Wednesday from The Addams Family in her black outfit. I think that it is important for people to have different opinions, without other people being disrespectful to them, and it seems like that is the case with most of the people watching your videos Kylie. I have probably said this before, but i don´t mind saying it again. I would love a collab between you and people like James from Deadmeat, Cody Leach, Zach Cherry and Sarah from PossessedBy Horror. But i really enjoy your content Kylie, and your honest but respectful opinions. :)
Kylie, you sort of explained why I consider Sam to be A-tier. Look at all the merch out there and you’ll see Michael, Jason, Freddy, Chucky, then who else? Pennywise? I see lots of Sam merch. And he’s extremely popular in spite of having 1 appearance, and that appearance is non-theatrical at that. Yeah, merch isn’t the entire story, but I think it’s telling.
@@HauntedHippie Awesome discussion! I just replied to your IG post about this topic. Bet you didn’t think my A-Tier list would take such a dark twist!!
7:09 I thought my comment would get more hate but glad you agree cause yea I love Halloween 1978 and watch it every Halloween, but I’ve heard some call it the greatest horror movie of all time, even the scariest horror movie which it isn’t
My unpopular horror opinions are topped by my insistence that I found the movie "Get Out" predictable and cringy. Apparently, you can't have that opinion and you must constantly praise that film.
After hearing nightmare on elm Street , exorcist ,evil dead not liked and no good etc i had to stop watching just incase someone said The thing or The shining no good lol 🤣
I discovered your channel during the pandemic and quite often would just hit play, go amongst my day with you pontificating in the background.... but it wasn't until this video that I truly fell deeply madly and non-obsessively in love with you...
Being roasted by Haunted Hippie dressed as Wednesday Adams is kind of an honor. 😄
I think Halloween Kills is on par with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2022 in that they're both some of the worst slasher requels in history. HK has great kills, soundtrack, amazing flashback sequence, and atmosphere. But everything else was so loser. This movie is just so... like we live in a post-Scream era, you'd think the characters would be more aware. Not in terms of meta horror commentary but just not making stupid decisions 🙄 like why was no one aiming for Michael's head in that last scene when they're beating him up?
LOL I have never been able to watch any Chainsaw sequels except Tobe Hooper's #2.
Fair point!!
Just no
I liked HK, but I agree, how have any of them not though about chopping his head off?!?!?
HK makes Texas Chainsaw 2022 look like a great film in comparison.
I found the Exorcist 3 very underrated hidden gem for the franchise has interesting intriguing character development dynamic in the plots.
I'm pushing back on your push back on Halloween 2 (2009): in addition to being punk rock, Rob’s camera is a thing of beauty. Just watch that swooping tracking shot as Loomis and his assistant walk into his lecture through the lobby. And then we get his brutal shaky cams of poor Annie’s death and the Rob’s intimate and painful close-ups of Laurie cradling her dying body. Rob writes his own rules in Halloween 2 and tells a tale of brutal family reconciliation. But I still loves ya!
But why would micheal have visions of his mother on a horse?
@@DavidJackson-vj2oi The white horse in dreams can symbolize power, purity and peace, the latter in particular is what I felt the movie was ultimately about, Michael, like Frankenstein’s monster, is, I believe, seeking peace by reuniting his family...in the big sleep. Hey, I ain't saying it isn't wacky, but it worked for me!
@@stephenvelez9710 peace and uniting his family? I can apprecite your interpretation of it, but he's stabby.( It wasnt hes dreams)
@@DavidJackson-vj2oi I think that's the point, tho: the only way Michael knows how to reunite his family, which includes himself as a child, is by killing everybody.
H2 is the best Halloween movie and it’s not even close.
Unpopular opinion
Movies can't be objectively good or bad. If a movie is entertaining, then it's good.
I think they meant to say " Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 is the second best Rob zombie directed Halloween film."
I was 17 when Scream 4 came out it's a favorite of mine along with the others
In my opinion I think the first Scream and Scream 4 is better the Scream 2022 but great video
I still defend Hereditary. It gets a lot of hate. People joke about the ending with the Burger King crown...hehe. Oh well, it's their opinion, that's fine.
I don't get the praise for Cabin in the Woods either. It's not horrible. Could have been so much better. I don't get Thor's death scene. Why was it filmed in a way to shock us? We knew what was going to happen. Didn't they show us the force field earlier? Oh well, Thor falls to his death into CGI land.
That scream fact was really true. I mean Scream 4 did not have enough Gale, Dewey and Sidney but Scream 5 said Go die and gave us like 1% of the film to see them
I do agree about Scream 4 motive being ahead of it’s time.
I’m entirely impressed that people participated in this with some interesting takes for you to make a funny video. I was surprised you actually roasted the hell out of some people with such a straight face lol. - On a side note, I just remembered a hidden gem of a horror movie not too many people talk about but one I remember as being VERY good. It’s called High Tendion (2003) and I’d absolutely love to hear your thoughts on it one day!
A couple of what I consider hot takes:
Halloween 1, 2, and H20 is the best trilogy this franchise will see. The weaknesses that are in the newer ones, as good as they are, aren't ever going to allow them to match up to the level of satisfaction we had seeing Laurie chopping Michael's head off at the end.
Friday the 13th would have been a forgotten slasher much like The Burning had they not chosen to do a sequel. It simply wasn't good enough to stand on its own.
Child's Play 3 is underrated and is a pretty solid sequel.
People tend to pigeon hole horror into a formula and that is why elevated horror is so polarizing.
The 2000s was not the weaker decade for horror. That belongs to the 90s. Scream and I Know What You Did Last Summer came in to save the decade at the end, but before that the 90s were dry after Candyman. Even most of your high impact slasher baddies had mediocre if not terrible sequels and had it not been for Wes Craven, we wouldn't be where we are.
agree on most of this!
Hell no Sam from trick or treat is a top tier horror character. He has one awesome movie. The reason he isn't as popular is because he didn't get an initial theatre release. He may not be as popular but he is definetly on the same level as some of the most popular horror icons
The word overrated is overrated.
now THIS is the truth ✨
Scream is a teen Horror bore . Can't do it .I like the original and Scream 4 . The rest MEH. Esp the new one it was them trying to recreate the original. And it's not even close . I gave it a 1 out of 5
We're not all living in the same objective reality 2: Electric Boogaloo
Scream is terrible, wouldn't watch that trash again.
@@jeeperscreepers8902 Lmao ok Mr I wanna be different
30 days of night is an underrated vampire flick
That person said that Halloween tour was A masterpiece doesn’t deserve to live
Unpopular Opinion: Scream Resurrection is better than the first 2 seasons and I enjoy it more than Scream 4 and 5 🤷🏽♂️
Season three was really good. Good kills
Thank you! Jackie Earle Haley does not deserve the hate. People need to leave Rorschach alone!
You have a new subscriber. Not that it matters, as meeting me is a overrated experience, but you can thank the merkins for this. I sure do! I share MANY of your opinions about horror films and look forward to seeing more of your content!
Ok, gonna watch The Night Comes For Us. Thanks, stranger!
Edit: were these all American movies? If so, meh.
Genuinely freaked when you read & agreed with my opinion of Insidious over the conjuring.. I was instantly obsessed with the first Insidious and anxiously waiting for the series to continue.. With The Conjuring, I saw the first film twice when it came out, and honestly didn’t care much for it .. I only recently watched the second & third (still haven’t made it to the Annabelle films, and other spin-offs)
I just think that the insidious franchise is some of James Wan’s best in terms of plot and scare factor.. the conjuring never made me flinch while Insidious had me terrified that the red face demon was lurking in my bedroom corner for days
Much love to you and this channel 🤍🖤
Even though Robert Englund and the Freddy character are iconic, but the movies don’t scare me anymore and other than the original and part 3 the rest are hard for me to watch.
I wrote this too fast, remove the ‘Even though’ and I will sound less like a crazy person.
I don’t agree with that opinion
@@ashleyburchettajleefanlove4683 fair enough. Freddy Vs Jason’s not bad, I forgot this. I would have to see The Dream Master again, I haven’t seen it in a while.
The only movies people tend to call overrated are ones that are widely loved by the masses. Isn’t that the definition of overrated? Also, I think it’s possible to think something is overrated yet respect the legacy and success of the film. Just my 2 cents. I feel bad about the heated argument we got into last time lol
Overrated means “rated or valued too highly” so it depends on the actual quality of the movie. And that’s a fair point I agreed that I think Halloween as a movie is a little overrated. But the legacy is not, the film was made under standards of a bygone era, and I think a movie and its legacy go in tandem so I generally wouldn’t describe Halloween as overrated
I love all horror but 80s horror will always be my favorite
i love how i can't type one sentence without a typo :') thanks for including my opinion in the video tho!
Even though this isn’t as much of an unpopular opinion. I’m never cared for the TCM franchise I only enjoyed the first installment & 2003 remake.
I don’t like 2016 The Witch wasn’t my cup of tea.
David Cronenberg body horror films have also never been my cup of tea; besides The Fly, The Brood, VideoDrome. I found most of his film very hard to rewatch you’d gotta be in a certain mood to be invested.
Jackie Earle Haley is an outstanding Freddy very menacing creepy & brings the villain character out.
To use your own words, you can't say a movie isn't a masterpiece just because you didn't like it ;) You can't compare scientific facts like gravity (that's something absolutely real whether we as humans agree or not) to a movie's quality, and sadly, that's something humans do way too often. We don't like our own tastes challenged and not agreed by others, so we cling to words like "objectively" to try to pass our own judgement as fact. I love what I love, other people love what they love. I rarely qualify any movie as bad, even if I hate it, because for someone else it could be the best thing ever
You completely miss my point. There’s a reason why people can get a masters degree in film. There are objective truths about film. It has nothing to do with entertainment value or how much you like something which is what you’re talking about right now
Totally agree with you about F13 remake, really enjoy that movie. Outside of Adrienne King and Betsy Palmer, I like the original less and less (and they killed a rat snake, something I can’t forgive). Also love part 5💪🏼
Friday the 13th Part 4 to 6 is my favorite movies of the series. I know a lot of people say 4 and 6 are their favorite but I feel like 5 is the perfect middle for them.
Your roast of my comment about 80s horror was actually the point I was trying to make 😛 I feel a lot of horror fans put 80s horror on this pedestal, like every film from that decade was a masterpiece, but the reality is there were just as many hits and misses as any other decade.
Straight up facts. I don’t find it to be the best decade of horror at all
woah woah woah!! WHO DOESNT LOVE SLAPPY FROM GOOSEBUMPS?? he’s honestly like one of my favourite fictional characters! 💔😩
Seen this vid was up when I got to work this morning, waited all day to get home and watch it, totally worth it 👍🏻 I didn’t get roasted much 😅.
But I feel I can genuinely engage in a good horror discussion here, even if I hard disagree with yours and other users opinions. Unlike reddit and a few fb horror groups I’m in, always just the same generic shit there. Trying to find somewhere to have good discussions about ideas and opinions on horror films, horror genres etc. is proving to be nearly impossible.
Last but not least, may I recommend a film, if you have not seen it. It’s an Aussie horror film called The Loved ones, from 2009. Takes a while to get going, but the acting from the psycho girl, her dad and especially the guy, who is the main victim, Is top notch.
Glad you feel that way! I have seen The Loved Ones and that style of movie is just not for me. There’s a lot that’s done well in it but I’m not big on torture porn body horror type stuff. I mean I love the Saw franchise, but for the plot 😬
@@HauntedHippie All good, I’m never too sure what Aussie films get seen elsewhere. Or if they get talked about, only ever see the obvious more well known ones like The Babadook and Wolf Creek being discussed. As for Saw, I’ve never bothered to watch anymore after 2, for what ever reason 🤷🏼♂️😂
You killed This Fit 🔥 🔥 😭🖤🙌🏽🙌🏽
One hour photo : robin williams
Is brilliant.
Edit : Alice sweet Alice is also criminally unheard of
I couldn’t finish alice sweet alice :( one hour photo was really disturbing
I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but I hated Midsommar at first. Like, hated it. However, the more I sat with it after watching, I started to get it and it made more sense and I actually love it now. First watch though, no. Absolutely not.
omg we really have so many of the same opinions and taste!! loooove the ring, chucky used to scare me when i was little and watched all of those movies recently as well! also love halloween 2018! i loved this video keep killing it
Yooo love to hear it!!
I feel both Rob Zombie films in the Halloween franchise are the best. I feel both are masterpieces. They gave Michael the "Batman Begins" treatment, and it worked and was very well received at the time. I don't see much room for objective criticism, obviously tons for subjective.
When talking about a medium that people can get a masters degree in, there’s always room for objective criticism. So you can feel that way all you want but it’s just not true lmao. Neither of those movies have ever been well received. The first one just made money so the studio decided to make a second.
@@HauntedHippie I do recall the 1st being well received by most horror fans. I just don't know if degrees can't quite quantifiy the right to say what's objective. Not to say you don't make a great point of thought. Not saying your wrong, perhaps you're right, but I feel these movies still hold up, at the least they have continuity which has been lacking in the franchise till late. I could probably argue forever on objectivity and subjectivity in movies and music, but again, great point to bring up, even if we disagree. Just discovered your channel, will continue to watch. 👻
This was a fun video, you should do more of these in the future. I of course have some unpopular opinions myself, here's a few of them.
Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors I don't like it as much as most people, I hated Nancy getting killed off for no reason, and the whole thing with Freddy's mother and the holy water felt pointless because he comes back in a sequel.
I'm okay with the new Halloween movies doing away with the brother sister angle, because it always felt corny and if you go back and watch Halloween 2 it didn't even make sense in the context of that movie, the reveal just comes out of nowhere with zero build up, I also don't care for most of the sequels.
heeeyy!! hehe you included some of mine!! 💅🏻💅🏻 i’m glad you agree that shudder has some fairly bad original films lol, but i honestly might get it again to watch those FIRE documentaries/docu-series and shows!! 😍✨
edit- i actually just thought of the most unpopular horror opinion i have: i love jumpscares in horror even if they are poorly done i just LOVE the feeling after getting spooked heheh :)
Hahaha that’s a really good unpopular opinion I don’t think I’ve seen that one before
I agree with a lot of this but if Hereditary is an objectively good film, Psycho is an objectively good film.
Oh come on, of freaking course the Rob Zombie's Halloween films are no means academy-award winning horror movies. Those films are horrendous. Same goes to Halloween 3: Season of the Witch, which can go screw off forever and will always be my least favorite Halloween film.
Anyways, about the big three horror movie icons being A-tier, I feel that Chucky would fit perfectly at the top along with Krueger, Voorhees and Myers.
Speaking of the horror movie killers, I heard that there might be a possible crossover of Child's Play and A Nightmare on Elm Street, simply called "Child's Play on Elm Street" following the success of Freddy vs. Jason. I REALLY hope that comes to fruition.
Oh man I’m too ready for this
An honor to have you
My unpopular opinions, come and roast me
I prefer Carrie 2013 over the original, it's one of my favourite books, I felt it did it more justice.
I enjoy RZ Halloween 2 (the theatrical cut anyway) it's a guilty pleasure. I like RZ as a director but can agree Halloween is out of his element.
Friday 13th Part 2 is my favourite Friday film, in fact I only rewatch the first 2 in the franchise.
Blair Witch 2: Book Of Shadows (despite the weird choices the studio forced in) is underrated and ahead of its time.
All 6 of the Milla Jovovich Resident Evil films are my ultimate guilty pleasure, I can't defend them they're just fun.
Saw 6 is my favourite Saw film, love the traps, the story and the callbacks to past films including the return of Shawnee Smith.
These are all interesting!! Saw 6 is tied with the first movie for my absolute favs of the franchise. I think it’s pretty underrated
@@HauntedHippie Thank you, glad you agree about Saw 6.
It's Videos Like This That Makes Me Love Your Content, Channel & The Horror Community In General. You Look Adorably Victorian ✨🥰✨
To be honest, I’m kinda glad that you didn’t roast me in this video lol
Nightmare 2 and 5 aren't bad and 3 is overrated (still a fav). Wes Craven was wrong about not wanting sequels. Freddy is least scary in New Nightmare. The best Friday the 13th movies are the ones everyone hates because they actually tried something different. Most of the Friday movies are boring. As much as Halloween did for slashers, it's boring as hell and that Shatner mask isn't scary. Chucky is actually scary. The fact that he is small makes him scarier because he's stealthy. I don't care for the new wave of supposed great horror. Most of them bore me. I don't think horror is scarier when you see less of the monster and hate when shit is too dark to see anything. Like I really wish they had some well lit scenes in rhe 1st Nightmare because the makeup is so good.
Wow what a great look! Like a new and improved version of 'Elvira: Mistress of the Dark' (I love that movie!). Also young lady, you've got great friggin' taste! I like how you speak your mind and you don't 'go with the flow'. If you don't like something, "bugger to that!" (British accent there). 'The Boy Behind the Door' OMG, that movie was 'BRUTAL!'. Maybe because it centers on two kids and you kinda feel more empathy for what happens to them and you want them to survive. It was really good. As for 'The Exorcist', I'd say it's a great movie (I'm of the older generation), but it doesn't come close (imho) to 'The Omen' in terms of the sheer terror you feel. Maybe it's something to do with the gruesome death scenes (hats off - no pun intended, to one of the best on-screen decapitations ever). Or it could be the fact that the Oscar winning score was so eerie and atmospheric, or that you actually get to see the very personification of the Devil's child on screen. Do you know any other movies where they show the death scene from different angles? I can only think of one at the moment, 'The Fury' from Brian De Palma with Cassavetes' death (very visceral!). You need to get a list together for the most brutal death scenes and I'd include 'Casino' which isn't a horror movie and 'Rise of the Footsoldier'.
sweet videos, keep up the great work. idk if you've done it but would love to see a review of the og hellraiser .
Absolutely LOVED this ROAAAAST !!! You ended me but I forgive you lmaoooo . I honestly agree with you when people hate on popular movies when their stories are super well built , I understand hating on a popular film like Friday the 13th but come on hating on hereditary and saying is overrated is meh. Kylie I WOULD love to see a ranking from them ring franchise ( from ringu 1998 until rings 2017 ) omg omg
If the Exorcist is overrated, then I don’t see how Hereditary cannot be overrated. They are around the same quality, with the slight edge to Hereditary. I love both of them. I’ve also heard that people laugh at both of them so they have that in common
Edit: also my point wasn’t that Scream doesn’t understand horror, but that it did not understand it as much as it think it does. They miss a couple of things, with the two movies don’t really understand like sequels in Scream 2, and *especially* Scream 3 which doesn’t understand how trilogies work at all. Also the “rules” of horror films aren’t really super accurate with the exception of Halloween. It definitely get the spirit and understanding of the fans right, but the tropes in slasher films aren’t so black and white.
The exorcist and hereditary aren’t comparable. They’re incredibly different quality-wise and from entirely different eras of film making standards
@@HauntedHippie I haven’t seen either movie in years so I cannot speak exactly but I saw them at around the same time and I didn’t find much difference in quality. I guess maybe Hereditary was more shocking with the kid dying, and a bit more scary, but both are movies that are carried by the actors, which is very rare in horror movies, so I think they at least share that in common. You don’t need to write reason why I’m wrong, you are probably more knowledgeable than I am and I’m ill prepared for a debate. However, when you said you saw it as a comedy, I was kinda confused, because I’ve heard that used for Hereditary a lot. I remember my friend telling me about people laughing in the theater.
@@thomasffrench3639 comedy is completely subjective so I can’t discount someone experiencing the movie that way 🤷🏽♀️
@@HauntedHippie fair enough, it just kinda irked me a bit.
Some good takes, I guess mine would be that Death proof is a great film. I don't get why it has so much hate. Also hereditary is insanely influeneced by this film kill list which I kinda think that it deserves more appreciation.
I love Halloween kills 😊❤
Original Freddy is far more scary and Intimidating than 2010 Freddy that remake was trash everything about it was terrible
To you lol
@Haunted Hippie I understand that everybody has their opinions but you need to have facts to have opinions
@@ashleyburchettajleefanlove4683 and you didn't state a fact
@@HauntedHippieI don’t have to if anybody thinks that the remake is better than the original 1984 movie or the remake Freddy is more intimidating than the original you’re stupid and honestly don’t understand what made the original Freddy so iconic you need to watch the movies over and over again to understand
I think Hereditary was a good movie, I enjoyed it. That being said, I don't think it was as scary as people made it out to be. I was disappointed on that front. Maybe if I hadn't heard all this crap before I saw it and went in blind I'd feel differently but here we are 🤷🏼♀️
Love the explanation about agreeing on certain basic principles, objective reality. Gotta have some common ground or else like you said, you get 2 + 2 equals 5, and people will stand by that
Couldn’t have said it better
Can’t wait to see if mine is in the video ! This will be an amazing video as always !
John Carpenter's Vampires is my favourite vampire film. Probably the best in my opinion (Afflicted is close behind that, and Redwood is close behind that one). I heard the sequels were dogshit, but I haven't checked those out, so I've got no concrete opinion on those. Maybe I'll end up enjoying them more, but who knows.
Furthermore, zombie movies are boring.
For me Scream 4 is the worst Scream (but a good one. I think it's a pretty consistent franchise) because those merits you mention (How great is Jill and its brilliant social commentary) only exists in the climax of the movie.
BEFORE that, Jill was boring. All the new characters were totally forgetable (except Kirby), no intense chases, no clever kills. The pretitle sequence is so fun the first time you watch it, but that's it. The movie was about Jill, not Sidney. If Jill were Gale's cousin, the story would be the same.
The last 30% of Scream 4 is fantastic, the previous 70% is mediocre at best. That's why I see it as the weakest one. I think it has its fans because it was the first Scream for a new generation, that's it. And the best part is at the end, so it leaves you with a good taste.
I do agree it's not that exciting for a good portion but like you said it is a consistent franchise so it's not bad. I think that 3 is the worst just because of the voice changer having anyone's voice say anything
@@lance6689 I quite like the voice gadget. It makes that Ghostface unique.
I love Scream 3. I love the Hollywood setting, Cotton's sequence, it's the only one with only adults in the cast (no more teens), memorable scenes, a cool mystery about Maureen Prescott, it talked about #metoo many years before (and produced by Harvey Weinstein... oh the irony). I think it's much better than Scream 4.
But yes, Scream 4 is good too. I love all of them.
I’m digging that look with the pony tail and red nails yes mam get it Kylie heheh
I’m not a fan of the Evil Dead movies besides Evil dead 2 dead by dawn I’d found the overall Subplots, Action , the effects to be very campy, dated, silly for its own good. Besides some folks hating on Hereditary which is on my top 50 horror films of all time, you felt the dramatic tension, the characters Annie, Peter, Charlie, Steve the overall experience while unlawful things was happening around them. so for folks calling it overrated they don’t care for Ari Aster filmmaking style. which is fine but it felt so enriching to me & love it. After watching A quiet place 2 id tend to agree on the rules of logic just falls out the window, while making some of the most dumb decisions possible. While I’d still found it entertaining and Cillian Murphy, Emily blunt gave solid performances. It doesn’t have the same impact as the first.
The exorcist is my favorite horror film but i dont find it scary. Are both these statements an unpopular opinion?
I don’t think they’re unpopular haha
@@HauntedHippie Lol i rarely hear that the exorcist is their favorite. I find that its very dramatic and tense, rather than scary
Friday the 13th part 2 is the best of the franchise
I love you're responses not a afraid to speak the truth dropping truth bombs . I know that your and my thoughts and opinions are pretty much dead on. I just don't get why people take everything so serious now a days people freak out because you got a different opinion then there's. I find everything is one-sided nowadays. People stop freaking out over movies there movie and fictional characters get over it. Anyways that was my rant love you Haunted hippie
Halloween 3 is a better movie than a few of the others and evil dead is not a remake it doesn't have the same characters as the original, the cabin my be the same and the necklace and the tree scene may be but not a remake and not as good as the original. The phantasm franchise is my favorite, the tall man is the best horror villain.
Get out's plot is very similar to skeleton key. Just the races are reversed.
Huh I never even thought of that but it’s true.
@@HauntedHippie yeah most people don't realise that but I think you should make a video on it. By the way new fan here, love what you do and all the best on your upcoming short movie. 😇
@@toikutoassumi8381 Aw thanks so much! Welcome!
I absolutely hate the term 'elevated horror' because it implies that the genre is generally low brow (something the old white Hollywood elites running the oscars seem to agree on) and that them being highly artistic is a newer phenomenon.
Horror is and always has been the most artistically vast, creative, progressive and empathetic genre though.
Even in the very beginning Frankenstein was ahead of it's time and got a whole new dimension to it's themes through the man who played the 'monster'. Or the racial commentary in Night of the Living Dead. Pasolini's Salò is still one of the best and important anti-fascist movies ever made and has staggering amounts of detail in it's depiction and deconstruction of that cancer of an ideology.
And movies like Possession 1981 or Tetsuo The Iron Man would fit right in with A24's other horror stuff if they were made today.
Long rant but horror is the most important genre and I stand by that.
You almost said Asstmospheric. 🤣
i see where your coming from on rob zombies Halloween not being a masterpiece. But in general everybody has there own masterpieces in there own minds. Tbh I used to think RZ Halloween was a masterpiece but as i grew older and my mind matured and movie taste expanded I don't think that anymore.
I’m coming from a place where I studied film for 4 years and have a degree so I feel comfortable with my declarations lol
Maybe it´s just me, but i really think that Kylie look alot like Wednesday from The Addams Family in her black outfit. I think that it is important for people to have different opinions, without other people being disrespectful to them, and it seems like that is the case with most of the people watching your videos Kylie. I have probably said this before, but i don´t mind saying it again. I would love a collab between you and people like James from Deadmeat, Cody Leach, Zach Cherry and Sarah from PossessedBy Horror. But i really enjoy your content Kylie, and your honest but respectful opinions. :)
Thank you! I’d love to collab with those people!
I hate a quiet place :/ both 1 and 2, just don't like em' and I'm gonna see a quiet place 3 but still don't enjoy
OMG I'M IN THE VIDEO I'M THE SCREAM 2022 GUY I THINK
I agreed with you halloween ll 1981 is better than 78 and scream 4 was okay but it's at the bottom for me too.
Respect your opinion but Scream 4 was so ahead of it’s time and brought something fresh to the franchise
Sweet! New content !!! Wooo sending good vibes , stoked to watch 😎 ✌🏽
Kylie, you sort of explained why I consider Sam to be A-tier. Look at all the merch out there and you’ll see Michael, Jason, Freddy, Chucky, then who else? Pennywise? I see lots of Sam merch. And he’s extremely popular in spite of having 1 appearance, and that appearance is non-theatrical at that. Yeah, merch isn’t the entire story, but I think it’s telling.
That’s a super good point 👀
@@HauntedHippie Awesome discussion! I just replied to your IG post about this topic. Bet you didn’t think my A-Tier list would take such a dark twist!!
Who tf doesn't love evil dead 2 ??? Lol
Hereditary is so damn boring I fell asleep . True story tried watching it twice can't do it .
Unpopular opinion: Scream franchise is in decline. :(
Awesome video!!
I have one it may be very very unpopular opinion but Halloween 78 isnt that good in my opinion
As soon as i saw someone bash SCRE4M I clicked fast af on the thumbnail
7:09 I thought my comment would get more hate but glad you agree cause yea I love Halloween 1978 and watch it every Halloween, but I’ve heard some call it the greatest horror movie of all time, even the scariest horror movie which it isn’t
Im not poo pooing on your comment, for me its the scariest
Scariest is going to be super subjective. It’s still one of the few that give me any sort of reaction.
Love this.
The conjuring movies, super overrated in my opinion
Hahaha! I made it in the video!
Scream 3 is worst in franchise. Done. Not even a debate.
I like grainy films.
Rob zombies Halloween 2 is a masterpiece of shit
HAHAHA
My unpopular horror opinions are topped by my insistence that I found the movie "Get Out" predictable and cringy. Apparently, you can't have that opinion and you must constantly praise that film.
I mean kudos if you could predict the ending! I was hella surprised hahah
Awesome hun
After hearing nightmare on elm Street , exorcist ,evil dead not liked and no good etc i had to stop watching just incase someone said The thing or The shining no good lol 🤣
Halloween 1 by rob zombie is the best.
I discovered your channel during the pandemic and quite often would just hit play, go amongst my day with you pontificating in the background.... but it wasn't until this video that I truly fell deeply madly and non-obsessively in love with you...
I'm gonna say it.....Freddy's Revenge is a good movie.
Agree I thought it was unique to the franchise and Freddy was probably one of the darkest versions in Freddy’s Revenge.
Jaws 2 is better than the original
Thanks 4 ignoring my comment, :(
I got like 200 responses I’m not going to get to every single one
I assumed it was chronological order but nevermind, that's okay