Hitchens VS Religion (Part 4/5)

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  • Опубліковано 22 чер 2007
  • Hitchens destroys Religion in 7mins.
    Part 1 of this series:
    • Hitchens OWNS Religion...

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  • @philhellenes
    @philhellenes 17 років тому

    REALLY enjoyable. Thanks for the trouble you've already gone to, and please post more when you get the chance. :)

  • @Nilgard
    @Nilgard 13 років тому

    Thanks for the uploads, always nice to see Hitchens in action :-)

  • @Shilpusuresh
    @Shilpusuresh 17 років тому

    This is truly the best video. Thankyou for taking care to point it out, I've put it on my channel too. Hitchens sums it up perfectly. EXCELLENT!

  • @Pronghorn22
    @Pronghorn22 17 років тому

    Thanks for posting these videos.

  • @nadinejoyce1203
    @nadinejoyce1203 2 роки тому +1

    Heartbreaking to hear those fatal coughs.💔💔💔💔💔💔

  • @heir2lecter
    @heir2lecter 17 років тому

    Thank you one and all for uploading anything(!) regarding Mr.Hitchens, he is a breath of fresh air. As an atheist living in Ireland(a country raped by religion and it's figureheads/class system/close minded-ness) I love to listen to anybody with an opinion that hasn't been spoon-fed to them through priests/rabbis/reverends/whoever

  • @tapiwakay
    @tapiwakay 15 років тому

    (PART 1)adknerr. You spoke some wise words right there. It all makes sense! Nice job
    I'm not sure where you are from but it is nice to know there are people who care about us. I say us because i was born in Africa, Zimbabwe to be exact.

  • @Robin_Nixon
    @Robin_Nixon 9 років тому +1

    Which makes you feel better? 1) Returning a purse you find containing $100 to an old lady because God wants you to do it? 2) Returning the purse because you feel bad for the old lady's loss and you want to make her feel better and not go hungry?

  • @discoverngc
    @discoverngc 17 років тому

    this guy is great.thanks for posting this.

  • @TheDrunkardHu
    @TheDrunkardHu 17 років тому

    awesome video. thanks for allowing other people to see it. keep up the good work.

  • @DeletedDelusion
    @DeletedDelusion 17 років тому

    Hey XJediHowieX,
    Thank you for putting this interesting stuff up.

  • @LarcheOsborne
    @LarcheOsborne 14 років тому

    Thanks for the heads-up. I met some of that type myself when I served in the military. I will visit his home page and see his uploads. I begin to tire of his high school debating tactics (and lack thereof). Thanks again.

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi 13 років тому

    Hitchens and Dawkins together as a team would make formidable debate team. Hitchen's for his excellent moral expose of Christian theology, and Dawkins for his scientific and factual arguments.

  • @Tapecutter59
    @Tapecutter59 15 років тому

    I'm an atheist, many years ago I drove cabs for a living, even though driving a cab is piss poor wages it's common for cab drivers to return wallets and purses as I did on a couple of occasions. The company policy was to return peoples possesions and charge them by metering the trip. I never had to mention the charge since like Mr Hitchens the people who I returned it to enthusiastically shoved money into my pocket, even when there was nothing more than credit cards in the purse.

  • @mnkwazi
    @mnkwazi 17 років тому

    Very good point. I must add that if you question after joining or want to leave the THREATS intensify.

  • @dstpfw
    @dstpfw 17 років тому

    Good job. Well executed.

  • @maarakailet1
    @maarakailet1 16 років тому

    Wow! I don't know who Hitchens is but the accent makes this already piercing and articulate dialog dead sexy.

  • @DammitSteve
    @DammitSteve 17 років тому

    the guy he was debating (olasky) is a nice fellow, but he was utterly destroyed. Love the Hitch - keep posting!

  • @spinners123
    @spinners123 13 років тому

    If you are not saved watch this!If your are watch this and decide how you feel!

  • @RileyCourter
    @RileyCourter 17 років тому

    Fulfilling, xJediHowieX, you are simply awesome.

  • @Djsouthpaw1987
    @Djsouthpaw1987 16 років тому

    thursdaysrecords:
    thats the best damn thing i've read all year =)
    i take my hat off to you ;)

  • @xJediHowieX
    @xJediHowieX  17 років тому

    I am uploading more right now! There will be 5 parts in total. And you Phil, are most welcome.

  • @xJediHowieX
    @xJediHowieX  17 років тому

    most welcome. Watch all 5 parts! They are great!

  • @deloford
    @deloford 13 років тому

    haha good work.
    watched this whole debate way back and remember thinking how Hitchens performs far better against worthy adversaries (Olasky is to his credit an accomplished and intelligent man) because he does not resort into name calling and pithy one liners, this is surely one of his most supreme performances and back in 2007 he seemed healthier. Just hope his chemo does the trick.

  • @shade1978x
    @shade1978x 14 років тому

    Actually, my lack of faith opens up a world of fascination to me. I find the universe and its grand immensity and complexity incredibly fascinating and I don't need to arbitrarily inject an invisible supernatural force into the equation.
    I look at the pores on the skin on my son's face and marvel at just how fortunate I am to be experiencing life at all, much less as a high form of intelligent life. And I have a great deal of practical hope in humanity that we'll survive into the far future.

  • @4R45H
    @4R45H 13 років тому

    2:09
    madness?
    THIS!
    IS!
    SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • @keeyaaw
    @keeyaaw 17 років тому

    he gets in some major pwnage in the last minute.

  • @xJediHowieX
    @xJediHowieX  17 років тому

    I am uploading 10mins of Hitchens opening as I type. I plan on doing 2 more parts that will follow sometime next week.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    I never said they were particularly religious, I simply stated that Kim Jong II has made religious figures out of both himself and his father.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Shouldn't that read 'Disobediance to parents can lead to execution at the hands of others, while your parents hold you down'?

  • @DammitSteve
    @DammitSteve 17 років тому

    yeah he was way out of his element, and it didn't help that Hitch happened to have one of his best nights that night - probably the most impressive filmed debate I've seen of him since the new book.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    One of my favourite things to do when a theist proclaims that our morality (etc) comes form god or the bible is to ask them where the bible for lions, gorillas and penguins come from since they live in social groups. Its quite fun watching them try to justify it.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Actually in world war 2 Germany went to war initially with small european countries. it broke out into a large scale war once France and Britain became involved, the US didn't become involved until later, when Japan forced them into the conflict.
    The point I was making, that you completely missed (or ignored), was that Germany never persued war against the US.

  • @xtrashed
    @xtrashed 15 років тому

    Notice how no country which is over 40% Catholic has a high HIV rate with the exception of Lesotho, a tiny country which is completely land-locked by Protestant/pagan South Africa. The prevalance of HIV in a nation is determined more by geography than religious demographics. Southern and south-east Africa has far higher infection rates than the rest of the continent, including numerous highly Catholic countries in central Africa.

  • @xtrashed
    @xtrashed 15 років тому

    If the hypothesis that Catholic doctrine spreads HIV and AIDS, we would expect to see increased infection rates in countries that contain more Catholics. Instead, we find decreased HIV rates in Catholic-dominated countries (although the trend is not statistically significant). The idea that Catholic teaching encourages the spread of HIV is not confirmed by the demographics.

  • @JimShadyUK
    @JimShadyUK 16 років тому

    Of all the anti-religion videos I've seen on UA-cam from Hitchens, Harris, Dawkins et al, this has to be the most devastating and powerful one yet. Hitchens at his eloquent and logical best.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Can I just point out also that its unlikely that Kim Jong sees religion as a danger since he's established both himself and his father as religious figures who the people have to worship, not choose to, have to.

  • @Tracywithafacey
    @Tracywithafacey 14 років тому

    I find it baffling how one book controls so many peoples lives

  • @kalsolarUK
    @kalsolarUK 15 років тому

    I agree...both sides need hearing whatever your beliefs.

  • @ggaabbee11
    @ggaabbee11 14 років тому

    I think it's safe to say moonlightbateman won't leave his faith in the close future. Though i'm with you eals

  • @Vislav
    @Vislav 15 років тому

    Pure logic and knowledge.
    And best ownage ever!
    You definitely can't argue with hitchens, only thing you can do is to feel completely dumb.

  • @TheProudIslamist
    @TheProudIslamist 17 років тому

    ComradeAgopian: No, that is my day job.

  • @jinkusmelus
    @jinkusmelus 14 років тому

    "By telling someone they are just an animal, do not be surprised when they act like animals."
    They act like animals even if you tell them they were made in god's image...
    "Atheism breeds intolerance and hatred by devaluing humans."
    Wrong. This is the one life you will get, trillions of other people could have been alive in your place, but it was you who were lucky. Your life is precious and valuable.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Can I just point out that in this quote he never says anything about being anti-religion or atheist or anti-theist, he only talks about christianity (christ followers), which is not the only religion.
    Adolf once more - "Why didnt we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good?"
    If he did change his beliefs, that's nothing unusual, most people change their beliefs during their lifetimes.

  • @CelestialWoodway
    @CelestialWoodway 15 років тому

    In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
    - Autobiography of Mark Twain

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Actually up until the British destruction of the French fleet (to prevent it from falling into the Nazis hands) the US had been seeking peace terms with Germany, when that happened Roosevelt finally began giving Britain the aid it needed. Roosevelt didn't want to get involved in an unwinnable situation so wanted tos ee proof that Britain was commited to the conflict with the Nazis before extending any aid, and in case Britain fell he wanted to be on, at least, amiable terms with Germany.

  • @bermudaguy1
    @bermudaguy1 13 років тому

    I think I'd fuckin get out of there if I were the guy who's gonna talk next!

  • @Mattnesss
    @Mattnesss 14 років тому

    @moonlightbateman You probably also think sucking the air out of something as "filling it with vacuum" and and the empty sheet of paper is "a sheet full of emptiness".

  • @TheProudIslamist
    @TheProudIslamist 17 років тому

    "Do not utter lies about what your own tongues say is permissible or forbidden, and thus invent lies about [what] God [has or has not said]. Surely, those who invent lies about God will not succeed."
    Qur'an, 16.116
    Skurkc - pwned.

  • @TheProudIslamist
    @TheProudIslamist 17 років тому

    . . . This is clear from the thousands of prophets in Islam who brought guidance in languages other than Arabic.

  • @TawntheAtheist
    @TawntheAtheist 17 років тому

    I always had the impression that Hitchens was a bit baser and rude than Dawkins or Harris, but after watching that I am thoroughly impressed. I might buy his book sometime... ;)

  • @requiemdexter
    @requiemdexter 15 років тому

    I've heard the entire thing. Olasky doesn't utter a single compelling argument.

  • @xtrashed
    @xtrashed 15 років тому

    The ten countries in continental Africa with the highest percentage of Catholics are:
    1) Equitorial Guinea (93.52% Catholic / HIV rate 3.4%)
    2) Burundi (65.25% Catholic / HIV rate 2.0%)
    3) Lesotho (53.62% RC/ 23.2% HIV)
    4) Congo (50.49% RC / 3.5% HIV)
    5) Angola (50.04% RC / 2.1% HIV)
    6) Democratic Rep. of Congo (49.45% RC / 1.2-1.5% HIV)
    7) Rwanda (47.92% RC / 2.8% HIV)
    8) Gabon (46.42% RC / 5.9% HIV)
    9) Uganda (42.28% RC / 6.7% HIV)
    10) Zambia (28.22 RC / 15.2% HIV)

  • @zombiemouse
    @zombiemouse 17 років тому

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  • @drdirs
    @drdirs 16 років тому

    You could make compelling arguments for religion from other perspectives, but that doesn't mean his points aren't strong.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Just a quick fyi, Hitler was a Roman Catholic, Stalin believed in a creator (he only opposed religion because he wanted power for himself) and Mao was a Taoist, a quick google search would have informed you of all this.

  • @Minidrags
    @Minidrags 16 років тому

    nice quote 'drunkengekko' where you get it from?

  • @ddtninja
    @ddtninja 16 років тому

    it's just so they can have the part with Ownage and stuff like that on the preview pic

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    If christians are so happy then why do they need the comfort of an invisible friend?

  • @easyas314
    @easyas314 13 років тому

    I stand and applaud you Mr. Hitchens!

  • @bluecobalt27
    @bluecobalt27 16 років тому

    It's about time the creationists realized that of all the 'evidence' they like to wheel out, the Old Testament is the most rickety of all. There must be a war crime referenced on every other page.

  • @Sal1981
    @Sal1981 17 років тому

    Wow, and I thought Richard Dawkins was tough in The God Delusion. Hitchens absolutely demolishes any "rationale" religion thinks it has.

  • @adknerr
    @adknerr 15 років тому

    I'm absolutely on your side about promoting and distributing contraception, I'm not sure if using the 'babies born with HIV' is a good argument for why it should be used. In developed countries with proper medical practices and facilities the transfer rate of HIV from the mother to child is like 1 in 50 versus 1 in 3 just from childbirth. After that, breastfeeding also then infects even more.
    I'm guessing fixing this discrepancy is better and less contraversial... but obviously more expensive

  • @StridentLobster
    @StridentLobster 16 років тому

    Kind of like "Who're you gonna call?"

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Personally I wouldn't call a threat like eternal torture agreeing to disagree, 'come over to my side or be tortured forevermore' goes a lot further than disagreeing.
    Though I will say that you're only the second theist I've spoken to on UA-cam who hasn't resorted to that after only a few comments, so kudos on that.

  • @xJediHowieX
    @xJediHowieX  17 років тому

    Well said. Couldn't agree more. Idiocy of the highest order.

  • @shade1978x
    @shade1978x 14 років тому

    Thats a common tactic by the religious; taking their misunderstanding of the natural world and proposing supernatural agency when one isnt needed. And all animals possess emotional intelligence. Its advantageous in the evolutionary process. Theres been many instances where animals have been observed exhibiting altruistic behavior. It isnt exclusive in humans. Religion seeks to grant humans a larger role in the Universe than we have to make believers feel special, which is the ultimate goal.

  • @unclexbob
    @unclexbob 16 років тому

    If it doesn't matter, than I guess your argument is even more moot than it appeared on the surface

  • @LarcheOsborne
    @LarcheOsborne 14 років тому

    Human civilization has been around at least five-thousand years. Private property is at least that old. It is likely much older as humans have wandered the globe much long (perhaps 200 thousand years). We have discovered stone age graves where individuals are buried with their private possessions. Even the Neanderthal did this. They too had private property. Note that this is before 2000 BC.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    I'm curious to know where you're going with this.
    Btw, the particles name is Higgs boson, not Higgs boson God particle. God particle is the nickname that the media has christened it with (since they needed something snappy and attention grabbing), not something that the scientists named it.

  • @LarcheOsborne
    @LarcheOsborne 14 років тому

    Also, those killed were murdered for political reasons Communist states believed that history was determinist in nature. The rulers of Communist states believed, just as many Christians, Jews, and Muslims do today, that they were working for an end and that end justified the means.

  • @guitarcar911
    @guitarcar911 13 років тому

    @highlanderdurp no the music at the start of the video is fine, its the music while hes talking, its really distracting

  • @lilscottyurine
    @lilscottyurine 16 років тому

    "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
    -Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782
    Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
    -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

  • @PhilipMcAdam
    @PhilipMcAdam 10 років тому +1

    There is a very profound statement and it has been proved true so many times. If you want good people to wicked thing add religion to the argument. What other system leave women as second class being. I find that alone so abhorrent and also the vatican is a completely male orientated organisation and this should not be allowed in these modern times. He is also correct about the cab driver leaving back the wallet. It should have not need religion for people to instinctively know that leaving it back is the correct thing to do.

  • @rios9000
    @rios9000 16 років тому

    There's no need to flash "Ownage" from time to time. We can all what's going on.

  • @unclexbob
    @unclexbob 16 років тому

    Find me a peer reviewed paper that says "the universe evolved from nothing".
    Just one. You should be able to produce that, yes?

  • @nadinejoyce1203
    @nadinejoyce1203 2 роки тому

    Articulating against religious madness for future generations

  • @unclexbob
    @unclexbob 16 років тому

    the scientific answer is "we don't know"
    Theists pretend they know, but they are guessing.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Care to provide some backing for that statement?

  • @xtrashed
    @xtrashed 15 років тому

    God Bless

  • @julzabro
    @julzabro 15 років тому

    perfect!

  • @MaxamillionGat
    @MaxamillionGat 16 років тому

    pwned score 1 for sanity

  • @LarcheOsborne
    @LarcheOsborne 14 років тому

    Don't worry, kid, you are not making me look bad. All I needed to do was prove that private property was older 2000 BCE, or have you forgotten what we were talking about? Oh, and you are yet to explain why I should send you all my possessions.

  • @unclexbob
    @unclexbob 16 років тому

    What would you like me to explain then? Links to sites that can educate you about what i'm talking about? I can supply those....

  • @LarcheOsborne
    @LarcheOsborne 14 років тому

    I have degrees in both law and history. Humans had to form basic rules of conduct as they formed the first living cultures. Morals were originally determined by the world of a chief, When early shamans introduced religions rules, they were most likely in agreement with a chief. And the first shamans did not follow a Judaic-Christian god.

  • @StridentLobster
    @StridentLobster 16 років тому

    As every other American's family was, somewhere between 0 and 5 generations ago, on average.

  • @aoxomoxoa88
    @aoxomoxoa88 15 років тому

    I'm on Hitchens side and I don't need to hear the "other side", cause I just know it will be "bollocks".

  • @rysw19
    @rysw19 14 років тому

    @moonlightbateman
    first of all, dawkins is simply pointing out the shear beauty, elegance, and unimaginable scale of our universe. i'm sure you know that he is an outspoken atheist (as well as a highly intelligent man). you seem to imply that just because he sees inescapable beauty in the way that the universe came to be -- the way that definite, natural laws all work in harmony to give rise to such a vast and wondrous universe.

  • @adknerr
    @adknerr 15 років тому

    Ok, it's all completely clear now. The arch-angel came to Mohammed and explained to him the idea of a 'something which lings' which, firstly doesn't explain how man was FIRST created and secondly is ludicrous to believe that the higher powers gave us some snippet of information without any background of knowledge on how to understand what exactly the 'thing that lings' is. We had no concept of microbiology at this point in time. Would have been nice for them to have shared that, no?
    -Drew

  • @xJediHowieX
    @xJediHowieX  17 років тому

    3 on my channel now. 2 more to come.

  • @shade1978x
    @shade1978x 14 років тому

    Unfortunately, whether or not something is boring or popular doesn't determine whether it's true or not. Death, disease and destitution certainly aren't popular but we're all intrinsically susceptible and bound to them.
    And there's just as many non-believers as there are Hindus or Muslims. Not that that matters.

  • @DrunkenGekko
    @DrunkenGekko 16 років тому

    Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful...
    Nice vid btw

  • @arisp21
    @arisp21 14 років тому

    @moonlightbateman not more than tall buildings or bridges can..
    they dont make you jump.they simply allow you to.

  • @tomrv107
    @tomrv107 17 років тому

    Fair enough - my mistake.

  • @eals524
    @eals524 14 років тому

    Yes, and how each different sect of christians tell you that all the others aren't true christians and if you don't follow their interpretation of the bible you're going to be tortured for all eternity after death, that's really a beautiful thing...

  • @xJediHowieX
    @xJediHowieX  17 років тому

    lol very good.

  • @xtrashed
    @xtrashed 15 років тому

    Of countries with high HIV rates, those with relatively high numbers of Catholics (e.g. Mozambique) are all located in the south/south-east.
    Sources for statistics:
    catholic-hierarchy . org/country/sc3.html
    avert . org/subaadults.htm
    (remove the space before and after the urls)

  • @xJediHowieX
    @xJediHowieX  17 років тому

    next 2 days probably.

  • @kingsolo7073
    @kingsolo7073 11 років тому

    thats your religion hitchens, the belief you dont need it.

  • @rysw19
    @rysw19 14 років тому

    @moonlightbateman
    i have no idea how you could think that an atheist believes in "nothing." obviously, an atheist can also be a proponent of other beliefs (e.g. an atheist can be an existentialist, someone who believes that we as conscious beings are endowed with the responsibility to make our own meaning of life -- there is no logical contradiction between those beliefs).