TOTAL TEARDOWN! BLOWN UP Dodge Viper 8.3L V10 Engine, What Let Go?

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • Due to the overwhelming success of both my LS7 and 6.1L SRT8 bad engine tear downs, I've made a video taking part a 2005-2006 Dodge Viper 8.3L V10 Engine. This engine is actually out of an SRT10 ram, and was bought as a core with completely unknown issues.
    Edit: the chrysler comment was in response to people saying I hate Chrysler engines in my other videos. I don’t, all cars can be trash if you tread them as such!
    I hope you enjoy the video and process. This is a regular part of our business and I feel like others would enjoy it!
    There will be MORE! I've got a couple of K20 engines, and some Gen5 LT V8 Engines in the pipeline, so don't forget to subscribe!
    -Eric

КОМЕНТАРІ • 971

  • @pauln6150
    @pauln6150 3 роки тому +195

    Adam Sandler tearing apart Mopars!! I’m binge watching all these vids.

    • @pops71
      @pops71 3 роки тому +2

      ROTFLOL!!!

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 3 роки тому +4

      "Turkey for you an' turkey for me ... can't believe Tyson gave the girl VD..."

    • @VenturiLife
      @VenturiLife 3 роки тому +3

      He even talks a bit like Adam Sandler which makes it extra funny.

    • @williamthielen2172
      @williamthielen2172 3 роки тому +2

      @@VenturiLife Did you catch the Miles Davis reference??

    • @geoffrey5161
      @geoffrey5161 3 роки тому

      Hahaha Gold

  • @Draxindustries1
    @Draxindustries1 3 роки тому +154

    Hone the bores, new set of rings, new cam & lifters, new bigend/main bearing shells +1 cylinder head and you'll have a fully working engine again for very little outlay..

    • @superjeffcentola4945
      @superjeffcentola4945 3 роки тому +22

      Plus with the dent in one of the pistons he gets a little extra displacement 😂

    • @artfranz2273
      @artfranz2273 3 роки тому +9

      Don’t know why you wouldn’t fix that head, don’t see why a machine shop couldn’t pop in a new seat, new valve, new piston in that hole, new cam n lifters, new rings, bearings, disclose all you did to it and sell it as a used/ rebuilt, whatever you want to call it.

    • @Backyardmech1
      @Backyardmech1 3 роки тому +4

      He has a block and functional bottom end. Do a 9L upgrade to it. Heads to an extent can usually be reworked into condition.

    • @anonimous2451
      @anonimous2451 3 роки тому +8

      Hone the bores? That's what rookies or rob shops do. It needs a proper stepped bore resurfacing done. A hone is not accurate enough to do a matching bore per cylinder and you end up with unbalancing. A performance engine will not do well like that. The grocery getter, sure for a while to prolong its life, but, unbalanced loading wrecks cranks. I've seen honed engines that are more than .010 even up to .040 out of balance with the other cylinders. Then peeps wanna know why the grocery getter is running so crappy......Cause your shade tree mechanic gave u the hook up honey and F**ked u in the process.
      A performance engine like the Viper Engine (smirks) needs everything in total balance, and re-building one should be done by first machining the block. Then weighing each piston to exacting micrograms so each cylinder matches. In this case I would say that competition cam contributed to its early demise. I dare ya to ask me how I know this, besides the Mopar hemi cam crushing lifter problem and oil issues that only DODGE can fix but has never tried. By the time folks figure that out the problem is well past the warranty period and Chrysler/Dodge/Ram is great at ducking the real problem. Sh*t Design !! This issue was not present before the MDS was created. No they did not Re-engineer the engine, just slapped on some worthless MDS crap to meet emissions so they could still flex their muscles as one o the baddest rides off the showroom floor. If you was a smart cookie, you would take it immediately after the warranty expires and have that MDS Delete done. OR turn off the auto drive on auto trannies and leave it fully non-MDS driven. Meaning NO CYLINDER DEACTIVATION FOLKS..................that kills these engines. Before MDS the RAM Hemi was a beast and lasted a long time........notwithstanding the Transmissions issues with Automatics in the 90's and 2000's.

    • @Draxindustries1
      @Draxindustries1 3 роки тому +9

      @@anonimous2451 You have no idea, a quick hone /deglaze beds in New rings. That's all this engine needs. Suggesting one bore hone could put other cylinders out of balance is ridiculous, just how much does a deglaze remove do you think? A very very insignificant amount, that's how much.
      Youre way is going way over the top for a perfectly rebuilt engine which could be put back together for very little outlay. It does not need thousands of dollars thrown at it.

  • @SiriusC1024
    @SiriusC1024 3 роки тому +205

    Trigger wheel is in the center of the crank for a more accurate reading. The same vibrations that a harmonic balancer handles will add error to the crank position sensor. In the center the magnitude of vibration is reduced.

    • @garyschulz7768
      @garyschulz7768 3 роки тому +41

      Exactly right. The reason they put it there is because it is less subject to all the flexural and torsional harmonics that make the pickups on an LS motor less accurate. It is the best place for it! Very important on engines with "long" crankshafts.

    • @toddw.9845
      @toddw.9845 3 роки тому +6

      Exactly Right!

    • @spacejamgoliath
      @spacejamgoliath 3 роки тому +6

      I figured there was some rational behind it. Cool to know

    • @jonbar140
      @jonbar140 3 роки тому +12

      See I went to school for this and I didn't know that. It's stuff like this that makes shade-tree Chevy/Ford boys say "Oh see this is why Mopar sucks." It's annoying how many people think they know more than these engineers.

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  3 роки тому +29

      I knew there was a reason and to be fair, it doesn’t really matter to me. It’s just some of the early 2000’s Chrysler’s and mid 2000’s gm engines when they switched from 16 to 32 or 24x to 58x really make interchanges difficult and it’s not an easy part to swap.

  • @douglasblair7007
    @douglasblair7007 3 роки тому +71

    When I was a youngster, back in 1961/62 I worked for a man named Jack Germany in Milan, Tn. Jack made a living driving an old Ford ton and a half around west and central tennesse picking up performance engines from wrecking yards and bringing them back to his shop where I, as a 13/14 year old helped tear them apart for performance parts - cams, pistons, cranks etc. jack took the parts somewhere down in Texas for resale. This series bring back a lot of memories. Also remembered burning out coils for the copper wiring using salve motor oil. Ugh!

    • @Duckingg
      @Duckingg 3 роки тому +4

      Milan huh? Such a cool little town. Would you have known Ted Baker? He was my grandfather and was really into his old cars. Would tell us stories about racing his plymouth lol.

  • @idunno_guess
    @idunno_guess 3 роки тому +32

    Based on the oil pan, this engine appears to have come out of an Ram SRT-10. This is a Viper engine, but it did not come out of a Viper.

    • @Howie262
      @Howie262 3 роки тому +3

      Good observation.
      I also noticed the engine mounts were different from what I’ve seen.

    • @picax8398
      @picax8398 3 роки тому +5

      It hurts either way

  • @christ2290
    @christ2290 3 роки тому +5

    They put the trigger wheel in the middle to mitigate front-to-back crank twist under load messing with timing as much. Basically gets half of the margin of error instead of a full cranks' worth of twist under load. I'm sure we're talking fractions of a degree, but some engineer must've deemed it worth the effort for timing accuracy.

  • @ScottDLR
    @ScottDLR 3 роки тому +288

    Would really like to see the inside of that 6.3 AMG.

    • @Phil-D83
      @Phil-D83 3 роки тому +6

      Those fail a lot, especially in the c63 amgs

    • @Joshuabryabt-gf6sc
      @Joshuabryabt-gf6sc 3 роки тому +3

      Yea those are junk, you'll see why if he does a video

    • @vj8452
      @vj8452 3 роки тому +5

      Watch the channel called:“ Motoren Zimmer“

    • @my1993lexus
      @my1993lexus 3 роки тому +6

      Those stupid head bolts (pre-update) caused too many unnecessary failures. With the correct head bolts they're great. (edit: typo)

    • @kbcarroll
      @kbcarroll 3 роки тому +11

      @@my1993lexus and then later the cam adjusters, cams, and lifters. what a shame, because when they work they're a work of art

  • @davidcrouch3226
    @davidcrouch3226 3 роки тому +136

    Math is easy when there are 10 cylinders: the metric system of engines!

    • @gerardjones7881
      @gerardjones7881 3 роки тому +4

      12 is easier to subdivide than 10.
      I'm going metric, inch by inch.

    • @QBRX
      @QBRX 3 роки тому +11

      That's 11/64ths correct.

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 3 роки тому +1

      I’ve seen a video where Harley fans had to add 2 measurements, the one having 1/4s and the other 1/16s (or they like). They never figured out how to add them up.

  • @Jessicas2CarGarage
    @Jessicas2CarGarage 3 роки тому +46

    FYI-valve covers and oil pan are magnesium. Some other parts may be too.

    • @tobiwonkanogy2975
      @tobiwonkanogy2975 3 роки тому +1

      scrape some off and light it on fire . easy test XD

    • @MrJacksjb
      @MrJacksjb 3 роки тому +9

      @@tobiwonkanogy2975 Easier test is a little vinegar on it will bubble if it is magnesium.

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28 3 роки тому +25

    The trigger wheel is in the center of the Viper engine because it fires on two cylinders at a time, and that harmonic can be transferred to the ends of the crank a lot easier than it will cause issues in the center of the crank.

    • @Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies
      @Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies 2 роки тому

      "Fires on two cylinders at a time"??? That's total bullcrap, it certainly does not. If you're interested, the firing order is 1-10-9-4-3-6-5-8-7-2.

  • @MrJeffcoley1
    @MrJeffcoley1 3 роки тому +4

    I love the contrast between the tender loving care of a build video and the speed and violence of a tear down video.

    • @MrJeffcoley1
      @MrJeffcoley1 3 роки тому +1

      "We must speak in hushed tones lest our words nick the journal."
      "It ain't comin' off pound it with a hammer."

  • @Wrenchen-with-Darren
    @Wrenchen-with-Darren 3 роки тому +40

    I vote to see a cummins teardown..
    At least part of it. Maybe 2 part series?

    • @Chiraq312boi
      @Chiraq312boi 3 роки тому +1

      Deboss garage has what you’re looking for

  • @Arthagnou
    @Arthagnou 3 роки тому +5

    the timing sensor is placed in the center due to deflection (bending) of the crank during load...or the crank twists slightly from end to end under load so the best place for a LONG crankshaft would be in the middle as the best location to find the average timing position.

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  3 роки тому +4

      That makes sense on an engine this long, and my gripe isn’t so much with this particular engine but with 3.7/4.7

    • @Arthagnou
      @Arthagnou 3 роки тому +4

      @@I_Do_Cars as far as other flaws found in the engine....the consistent flaw with Mopars with the valve guide dropping is ...pretty lame...I totally give you that

  • @OneCupOfCoffee204
    @OneCupOfCoffee204 3 роки тому +4

    Great channel. There's something therapeutic about watching an engine being torn down and finding the source of the damage.

  • @juvandy
    @juvandy 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for putting these up- really cool stuff. I'm in Australia and would love to see someone do these with some of the newer diesel engines being used in utes. Since 2012 or so they all have exhaust gas recirculation valves, which help to burn off extra nitrous oxides. The problem is, they cause a large buildup of soot in the intake manifold, especially if you don't drive the engine at hot operating temperatures frequently/long enough. There is a huge debate online over whether this buildup actually causes damage to the engine or if it just chokes it of air. For a lot of people, it means you have to get the intake manifold removed and cleaned out every 20-50K kilometers. Would be great to see the cylinders and heads of those engines to see what the wear looks like over time.

  • @CamAteUrKFC
    @CamAteUrKFC 3 роки тому +1

    The lobe is directly related to the dropped valve seat. Since the valve seat was holding the valve out, there was no pressure form the return spring against the pushrod, then the cam follower. This created slap action against the face of lobe and caused a groove.

  • @marlobreding7402
    @marlobreding7402 3 роки тому +9

    Answer! They put the crank angle sensor in the middle to average out the twist of a long crankshaft, Timing.

    • @JxH
      @JxH 3 роки тому

      Compensating for crank flex (if even required) could be done in software these days. And perfectly too. No need to take the hardware approach.

    • @marlobreding7402
      @marlobreding7402 3 роки тому

      @@JxH the only problem with correcting any deflection is that it will require an additional angle sensor.

    • @jeffjob8265
      @jeffjob8265 3 роки тому

      @@JxH well this engine is still using only 2 values per cylinder.... like in a car from the 1960’s... if that should tell you anything about Chrysler’s “technological capabilities” lol. They could have made an engine with nearly half as much displacement make similar power as this engine. It doesn’t make any sense.

    • @Deezle_Gaming
      @Deezle_Gaming 3 роки тому

      @@jeffjob8265 But it wouldn't have the torque curve. They whole idea of the viper is that it was a simple, raw car.

    • @jeffjob8265
      @jeffjob8265 3 роки тому

      @@Deezle_Gaming yes but they also somehow managed to make a v10 sound bad. (In comparison to every other v10 vehicle out there)

  • @JxH
    @JxH 3 роки тому +4

    @7m: Outside "...keep 'em covered..." Covering might keep the rain out, but it won't prevent condensation (cold overnight, humid morning). Condensation leads to moisture accumulating in various nooks and crannies, depending on air flow and thermal mass; as well as lack of drainage.

    • @benupde1979
      @benupde1979 3 роки тому +1

      This guy’s bias won’t let him see the common sense. He deals with likely thousands of LS engines daily, and occasionally a Chrysler product, but Chrysler is the one with issues and is junk. Right. The 6000 GM engines you blast through daily aren’t junk at all?

  • @richardj163
    @richardj163 3 роки тому +8

    Love the tear down videos! How these engines wear and fail is very interesting.

  • @jonbar140
    @jonbar140 3 роки тому +2

    Not a Mopar man, but I always liked that they did crazy stuff. Making a new viper in an economic crisis, 700+ hp SUV, convertible truck, V-10 super truck? Sure why not it's only money, what the worst that could happen? Way more interesting than say Ford making a mustang SUV and Chevy making 10+ stupid crossovers.

  • @stevennunez6013
    @stevennunez6013 3 роки тому +14

    My wife over heated our 13 pilot it dropped the valve came out of the head
    She hit a turkey that ran into the road
    Our dash cam recorded everything the insurance company paid for everything

  • @Airman..
    @Airman.. 3 роки тому +53

    Get 1 piston 1 cam new lifters set new bearings set
    Send head to a machine shop for overhauling.
    Make $$

    • @gamescents3719
      @gamescents3719 3 роки тому +1

      Did you forget about the rust

    • @Midnight_Rider96
      @Midnight_Rider96 3 роки тому +25

      @@gamescents3719 that's surface rust, a light ball hone and that block is ready to go!

    • @Arthagnou
      @Arthagnou 3 роки тому +5

      to sell it as just parts means "I hate money"...

    • @Airman..
      @Airman.. 3 роки тому +2

      @@gamescents3719 non a good hone cant fix

    • @Airman..
      @Airman.. 3 роки тому +2

      @@Arthagnou exactly

  • @Mattie_LIGHT
    @Mattie_LIGHT 3 роки тому +8

    I caught your channel a few weeks ago. I like your work and your UA-cam video "business" model. Keep up the good work. I see great success with UA-cam in your future!

  • @nevadadan4113
    @nevadadan4113 3 роки тому +11

    Here's the NUMBER 1 reason why I love watching you.... no arrogance! Most guys are complete douche bags, which is why I hang out with my wife. :)

  • @codylapoint
    @codylapoint 3 роки тому +7

    That head is easily repaired. I have fixed a lot of the 4.7 HO heads that have dropped seats. I normally will just take a small punch and peen a little bit of the aluminum around the seat to hold it in. They fall out when they get overheated, so you may want to check every is still straight and true.

    • @mikearmstrong4303
      @mikearmstrong4303 3 роки тому

      It’s funny how he shits on the parts that only fail when you decide to continue driving when the dummy light and gauges tells you not to. 5 years working at Chrysler and another 5 independent and I have never seen one drop a seat without overheating.

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot 3 роки тому +1

      @@mikearmstrong4303 I've seen a dropped seat without overheating... Mid-2000s MOPAR stuff just drops seats. It is what it is.

  • @MightyWhiteofYou
    @MightyWhiteofYou 2 роки тому +1

    I’m inspired. I been an electrician for 23 years and I’m sick and tired of it. I’m going to start doing what you’re doing. Minus the UA-cam; I don’t have the personality for it . Thank you

  • @TakingSou1s
    @TakingSou1s 3 роки тому +19

    PLEASE DO THE CUMMINS MOTORS. The content you put out is amazing and has helped me in so many ways. Thanks a lot.

  • @jenskapmeyer2579
    @jenskapmeyer2579 3 роки тому +2

    I like your serious, dignified way of giving us interesting content. Thanks for sharing!

  • @solarstar567
    @solarstar567 3 роки тому +3

    love these vids, its cool watching someone with technical skill take these amazing engines apart.

  • @Joe-co4sq
    @Joe-co4sq 3 роки тому +2

    The wear on the cam can be from roller lifter failure. Common on the 5.7 Hemi. Also if the connecting rods are fractured the caps should be put it back on the rod they came off. Keep that block. It will go up in value every year.

  • @keithhill8409
    @keithhill8409 3 роки тому +9

    Letting a Dodge Viper sit outside long enough to rust a cylinder should be a crime

    • @brucecowgill7672
      @brucecowgill7672 3 роки тому

      It was out of a SRT10 RAM but still...

    • @1S1KC0DM4N
      @1S1KC0DM4N 3 роки тому

      @@brucecowgill7672, it literally says Viper on the valve covers. The dude even says it’s a Viper motor

    • @SocietyUnplugged
      @SocietyUnplugged 3 роки тому

      ​@@1S1KC0DM4N When you pop the hood of an SRT10 RAM you'll see Viper on the valve covers. The SRT10 RAM was marketed as the pickup truck with a Viper engine. What makes it even more confusing is that the engine (ZB Phase 1) name/code is related to car model, not the engine itself. This mandates to call the SRT10 RAM engine a Viper engine and that's why 'the dude even says it's a Viper motor'.
      Technically they are the same engine, they only differ to fit properly in the engine bay (engine mount, exhaust manifold, oil pan and wiring).

  • @MAGGOT_VOMIT
    @MAGGOT_VOMIT 3 роки тому +2

    That's the second dropped valve-seat i've heard about in an SRT-10 Ram. The other one was from a missed shift and he only had to replace/repair the head and 1 piston and was good to go. This engine isn't destroyed by no means. Lets see your favorite after a dropped valve seat at high revs. 😂😂😂 Awesome teardown vid!!

  • @charliedee9276
    @charliedee9276 3 роки тому +3

    I laughed when you looked in and proclaimed yes, it is a Chrysler, I knew it had a dropped seat before you showed it. I have a 4.7, that's how I knew..

  • @hdrenginedevelopment7507
    @hdrenginedevelopment7507 3 роки тому

    That cam looks like what happens when you follow the "one viscosity fits all" recommendation in the owner's manual, and also use a modern API SN oil with hardly any EP Zinc/Phosphorus additives in an older performance engine. If you're going to run a performance engine or any engine you are going to consistently go ham on, run an oil weight on the heavy side of manufacturer's recommendations, and use something with better ZDDP levels than modern emissions warranty oils have, or add 3 or 4 oz of Lucas ZDDP break in additive to get that EP lubrication performance up. Nothing else in the engine will care, but your valvetrain will definitely thank you.

  • @akio2589
    @akio2589 3 роки тому +3

    In my experience, engines (even Chrysler) don't drop valve seats unless they're (significantly) overheated.

    • @benupde1979
      @benupde1979 3 роки тому

      He also fails to realize aluminum heads expand at a different rate and amount than the hardened steel valve seal insert and overheating would certainly cause a valve seat to drop.

  • @DrBroncanuus
    @DrBroncanuus 3 роки тому +2

    floating pins....?...I've learnt something new today ...thx....always loved the Viper

  • @countrychevy1995
    @countrychevy1995 3 роки тому +3

    Currently doing a cam swap on my 5.7 hemi. 60k miles and it was starting to eat five lobes. I pulled it apart because of a misfire which turned out to be a bent push rod.

    • @electronicengineer
      @electronicengineer 3 роки тому

      I'm no engine expert, but knowing what you now know, could you possibly increase the oil pressure on your engine's oil pump to possibly help keep more oil flowing to the camshaft, lifters, and valvetrain? May not be possible, but if you could up the oil flow somehow, it might help... Again, just a thought as I'm no engine builder. Fred

    • @countrychevy1995
      @countrychevy1995 3 роки тому

      @@electronicengineer that thought hasn't even crossed my mind. I'll have to look into that. I know you can up the oil pressure on an LS engine by modifying the oil pump. Since the hemi and the LS have some similarities, you might be able to do the same to the hemi. I will definitely figure that out for sure.

    • @electronicengineer
      @electronicengineer 3 роки тому +1

      @@countrychevy1995 I hope that it will help you out and you won't be making a habit out of rebuilding your engine's valvetrain. Good luck. Fred

    • @patrickwayne3701
      @patrickwayne3701 2 роки тому

      Fred, methinks you know more than you're letting on about..... the 5.7's have a great big Ole glaring FU in the design phase of their cam and lifter oiling. They ONLY get oil on the cam lobes from sling off the crank and rods at higher speeds. That's why the cop cars and pickups that idle allot are the ones eating cams and roller tappets like candy.

  • @Tarkov.
    @Tarkov. 3 роки тому +1

    There's something therapeutic about watching you tear apart these motors.

  • @Junkyardnedreck
    @Junkyardnedreck 3 роки тому +6

    I love how simple these engines are, good ole American push rod engines

    • @heikopanzlaff3789
      @heikopanzlaff3789 3 роки тому

      And I like my Mazda engines what are not overcomplicated but hardly ever fail ... Come on a valve - seat and a broken cam ? Never had any of this neither both...

    • @jdrok5026
      @jdrok5026 Рік тому

      @@heikopanzlaff3789 Mazda engines don't fail? Yeah right lol they aren't good man sorry Mazda isn't good.

  • @petermichael4316
    @petermichael4316 3 роки тому

    I like watching you tear down an engine! You are a nice host and
    Your videos are very educational.
    When are you planning to tear down the Cummings?

  • @ab-cd456
    @ab-cd456 3 роки тому +25

    "If peeing your pants is cool" nice Billy Madison reference!

    • @Mr.Thermistor7228
      @Mr.Thermistor7228 3 роки тому +2

      wow i was thinking he looks exactly like adam sandler especially from the side profile lol

    • @KM-rx7hz
      @KM-rx7hz 3 роки тому

      @@Mr.Thermistor7228 me too

  • @spoolindsm127
    @spoolindsm127 3 роки тому +1

    The Adam Sandler of engine teardowns

  • @Drinnan
    @Drinnan 3 роки тому +6

    Loving these tear downs. Keep em coming

  • @BigHeinen
    @BigHeinen 3 роки тому

    Wow what an opportunity! One new stock piston. Polish the crank. Rebuild the heads, valve job, all new bearings, rings, and a cam/lifters. Boom! Of course new oil & water pump, basic stuff but this is a runner!

  • @mikekerr6747
    @mikekerr6747 3 роки тому +10

    I enjoy watching you tear down engines and I wish you would sing the lunch lady song, I'm kidding, but seriously you look like Adam Sandler

    • @7s29
      @7s29 3 роки тому

      🤣👌

  • @azsunnin
    @azsunnin 3 роки тому +2

    Great vids Eric. Takes me back 50 years to when I was a dumb kid rebuilding with help from a friend. Every bolt set was put in a paper lunch bag and labelled so I knew where it went for rebuild. If I may suggest...always keep the camera on your hands when taking apart so we can see what you're doing. Taking out the pistons on this one was finger tapping until ya got back to where we could see. Liked and subscribed. :)

  • @michaelg589
    @michaelg589 3 роки тому +5

    The Miles Davis comment made me laugh. Nice one 😆👍🏻

  • @tylerexperience8704
    @tylerexperience8704 3 роки тому

    I’m happy this monster is saved from being scraped, hone the bores, new bearings, new piston, cam, valve seat, this thing would be a smacking machine!

  • @S.Matt240
    @S.Matt240 3 роки тому +6

    I need to put that in my 240. That would be fun. I'm trying to trade it for a foxbody right now though

    • @YaseenAli-zn9ej
      @YaseenAli-zn9ej 3 роки тому

      Dang that would be insane. That engine is massive tho. Might be a tight fit. I got an S14 with an RB25. Ima do forged internals and everything soon.

    • @S.Matt240
      @S.Matt240 3 роки тому

      @@YaseenAli-zn9ej Yeah, I don't think it would fit. Lol
      I just went from a LS6 to LS7 in my s14 and the LS in general doesn't leave much home either. I think 10 cylinders would be outta the question

    • @EJ257IHI
      @EJ257IHI 3 роки тому

      Why don't you get a Toyota 4.0L V8 ?

    • @S.Matt240
      @S.Matt240 3 роки тому

      @@EJ257IHI Over LS or RB??

  • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 3 роки тому +2

    Great job, well done! I've seen worse pistons sent out the door but that cam was done!

  • @JOMaMa..
    @JOMaMa.. 3 роки тому +3

    The seat failing is from overheating and most likely from not allowing the engine to cool during pulls

  • @djsonicc
    @djsonicc 3 роки тому +5

    My first thought when I saw this is why is one of the Jonah brothers doing engine teardown?

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 3 роки тому

    I was critical in another video of yours, but this time, I am being super positive:
    Your audio - Dude, you're frigging KILLING the audio portion of your presentations. For being in an echo-laden shop with hard surfaces everywhere, you audio is 100s of times better than even VERY popular UA-camrs. Whatever that lav mic is, I'd like one! Best automotive-style video sound production since I joined YT in 2011.

  • @davidjohnson8474
    @davidjohnson8474 3 роки тому +11

    That year Chry they had bought the wrong valve seats from a Manuf.

    • @wymple09
      @wymple09 3 роки тому +3

      From what I've seen over the years, to the detriment of my wallet, Chrysler has used a lot of substandard stuff for many years. This guy spends his time tearing down bad engines, and his view of Chrysler is just what I would expect.

    • @davidjohnson8474
      @davidjohnson8474 3 роки тому

      @@wymple09 yup! I have an 05 magnum rt hemi with 190000 miles on it. The other thing that Chrysler I didn't like what they did was running the temp of the engine at 210 to 220deg! If people run them at 180 to 195 I've seen no dropped seats. I've owned mine since New and raced the heck out of it and only issue I've had was a bad lifter and broke a rear gear on the line at the strip

    • @wymple09
      @wymple09 3 роки тому

      @@davidjohnson8474 There is a lot of speculation that the hemi needs RPMs to keep oil thrown up on the lifter areas because of the radical pushrod angles, and it's good for those engines to get used hard. Grandma's grocery getter & fleet cop cars that idle a lot have the problems, not the hotrods.

    • @benjaminwayneb
      @benjaminwayneb 3 роки тому +2

      @@wymple09The cam and lifter failure rate on our Police fleet 5.7's is close to 100%. Very common failure. They also mushroom the valve tips, screwed if they idle and screwed if you drive them hard.

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot 3 роки тому +1

      Many years they had this problem.

  • @frankvalencia4206
    @frankvalencia4206 3 роки тому +1

    Im glad youtube suggested this. Keep up the cool videos. Look forward to watching more

  • @JayRobin
    @JayRobin 3 роки тому +4

    Please do the M156 teardown!
    Any of the cummins would be cool too.

  • @georgelaramore6529
    @georgelaramore6529 3 роки тому +2

    timeing is more consistant at the center instead of picking up the signal at either twisting end of the crank.

  • @jimmy_olds
    @jimmy_olds 3 роки тому +8

    Jeez. Guess with 20% more cylinders in a Chrysler that guarantees 20% more chance of a failure🥴

  • @Skunkman001
    @Skunkman001 3 роки тому +1

    Hemi's, Vipers and 3.6L Have that common cam problem. Hemi's have the rollers go out in the lifters. 3.6L the rocker rollers will get play and cause a misfire code. And I DO work at a Chrysler dealership as a tech.

  • @antfbi
    @antfbi 3 роки тому +2

    The drop valve! I got flash backs to the late 90’s escorts

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot 3 роки тому

      Heh, had someone try to blame a shop I worked at when his 1.9 was tapping hard and misfiring after an oil change. Was a dropped and broken valve seat.

  • @Geeds69
    @Geeds69 3 роки тому +5

    Hey, if peeing your pants is cool, then consider me Miles Davis!

  • @waiting4aliens
    @waiting4aliens 3 роки тому +1

    I would have stopped at the second head and sold the engine as an easily rebuild able core. Good video

  • @williamnichols429
    @williamnichols429 3 роки тому +12

    Chrysler could take a lesson from Japanese motorcycles. Key the seats into the head during casting!!!

    • @operator8014
      @operator8014 3 роки тому +7

      Hahaha! Chrysler learning. Funny joke.

    • @jeffjob8265
      @jeffjob8265 3 роки тому +1

      @@operator8014 yeah they still make new engines with only 2 values per cylinder. I mean wth, this motor is a perfect example. You could build an engine with half as much displacement and create similar power output as this thing using 4 values per cylinder. I don’t understand anything they do lol.

    • @meterdoogles
      @meterdoogles 3 роки тому

      @@jeffjob8265 Its because the Americans who adore these cars only care about displacement. They just want BIG everything, regardless of whether or not it's good.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 3 роки тому

      @@jeffjob8265 Compared to European car engines, this and the 7 litre Corvette engine look a really old and simple design. I can’t believe they still have pushrods rather than a overhead cam. Is it the same engine design being used for decades? They probably wouldn’t pass emissions requirements in Europe with such a design, even the smallest and cheapest cars now have dohc, variable valve timing, fuel injection and turbocharged to get past the emissions.

  • @NickM20985
    @NickM20985 3 роки тому +1

    Dude sick! I’d love to see the Cummins tore down. I thought for a second I was watching Adam Sandler tear down engines for a second.

  • @trplpwr1038
    @trplpwr1038 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for not putting in some stupid electro music in the background!

  • @pospc2
    @pospc2 3 роки тому

    You got any dream job. I enjoy pulling engines apart and seeing what went wrong.

  • @_BAD_MERC_
    @_BAD_MERC_ 3 роки тому +4

    CHRYSLER;
    Corporate
    Headquarters
    Recommends
    You
    Start
    Learning
    Engine
    Repair.

    • @bobbbobb4663
      @bobbbobb4663 3 роки тому

      Very nice. Now for the bonus round: Stellantis.

  • @jarmstrong2843
    @jarmstrong2843 3 роки тому

    The three videos I have seen so far, all the engines seemed so clean inside.... no oil on the parts, no sludge, no nothing than a milkshake inside a cylinder.

  • @BelowAmbient
    @BelowAmbient 3 роки тому +9

    wow lots of Chrysler hate... Evidently you don't know the history of LA engines which are massively overengineered

    • @loganamurray64
      @loganamurray64 Рік тому

      “Massively over engineered” and yet still massively gutless

    • @johnfilmore7638
      @johnfilmore7638 Рік тому

      @@loganamurray64 compared to what, your fanboi BMWs with an o-ring on the alternator coolant channel, when it leaks the engine grenades?
      Let's see your fanboi German engines they used to last and now they're claymore mines in a car.

    • @loganamurray64
      @loganamurray64 Рік тому

      @@johnfilmore7638 Lmao, I quite dislike BMW's actually, they're the actually overengineered cars, hence my putting "overengineered" in quotations initially. The Chrysler LA engines are pushrod V8's, about as simple as it gets, regardless I went along with buddy's story and mentioned how theyre gutless (because they are) and I stand by that. Don't worry about BMW's, I agree with ya, they do so many things that just make you wonder why, doesn't change the fact those LA's are underpowered as hell

  • @Map71Vette
    @Map71Vette 3 роки тому +1

    For what it's worth, that engine is out of a Ram SRT10 truck. The deep oil pan is a giveaway. The viper engine pans are flat bottom. Also, I wouldn't necessarily knock Chrysler quality as you never know what that engine was put through. A lot of guys like to really push those engines, especially the truck ones, so entirely possible it might have had a blower or heavy tune in it that could have spiked temps and dropped the seat. You can only design for so much stupid.

  • @raybeattie985
    @raybeattie985 3 роки тому +1

    I really enjoy watching the tear downs..but please get a pro engine stand and a good autopsy table to put parts on..it will make your life easier with a good work space!

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  3 роки тому

      I’ve torn down a few hundred engines in the last couple of years. If it were something I’d be putting together I would absolutely devote the time to putting the engine on a stand. There’s always room for improvement of course!

  • @larryjohnson7591
    @larryjohnson7591 Рік тому

    Always wanted to see inside a Viper motor. Thank You.

  • @kevinvoyer5053
    @kevinvoyer5053 10 місяців тому

    That timing wheel placed in the middle of the crankshaft, is because the engineers wanted the balance even from front to back. That way they didn’t have to make cuts at both ends.

  • @irwfcm
    @irwfcm 3 роки тому +1

    I'd love to see a teardown of that 6.7 Cummins!

  • @robertsmith5557
    @robertsmith5557 3 роки тому +1

    Great and interesting show. Keep up the snippets of humour. Its good to chuckle. Thanks.
    Australia.

  • @gedungisphoopnuchle9121
    @gedungisphoopnuchle9121 3 роки тому +1

    Those valve seats usually don't drop unless it was running overheated.

  • @TAMELESSTGR
    @TAMELESSTGR 3 роки тому +2

    This was cool, plan on watching more, thanks

  • @davidk4940
    @davidk4940 3 роки тому

    I just subscribed. You are the coroner of engines. The patient got sick, the doctor (mechanic) tried to save them but....oh well...they found their way to your table. Awesome life cycle.

  • @tenkkutn
    @tenkkutn 3 роки тому +2

    Turned me into Miles Davis.
    Ah, I see you are a man of culture

  • @JL-dz8sj
    @JL-dz8sj 3 роки тому +2

    Nice heated m12 Jacket, one of the best things I’ve ever bought

  • @chrisretired5379
    @chrisretired5379 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome videos, thank you ! All of your videos have no music, that alone is fantastic, and helps to attract / retain viewers 💝

  • @iburnpurplekushable
    @iburnpurplekushable 3 роки тому

    Wanna see more of those k series motors! I’ve broken down a few but it’s always fun to see what went wrong

  • @jppagetoo
    @jppagetoo 3 роки тому

    A good friend of mine is an automotive quality engineer. He worked for several OEM parts suppliers. He told me long ago... never buy a Chrysler, they will accept parts the other manufacturers would reject instantly.

  • @tundramanq
    @tundramanq 3 роки тому +1

    The Mopar cam/lifter oiling issue has been known for years on several V8's also.

  • @thetilemaniac
    @thetilemaniac 3 роки тому

    When my 2001 burban 5.3 goes I will send it to ya for a video. It's sitting at 386,000 miles, owned since new, only put a water pump and some valve cover gaskets. Drive it at least a 100 miles a day. Honestly can't believe it's still trucking

  • @bearsfan2085
    @bearsfan2085 3 роки тому +1

    “God math is easy when there is 10 cylinders” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jamesmcdonald2680
    @jamesmcdonald2680 3 роки тому +1

    I think they put the trigger wheel in the center of the crank so that however much crankshaft whip there is won't be "seen" as much by the CAS.

    • @Miguelmedina22
      @Miguelmedina22 3 роки тому

      That's what I was thinking with the crank being pretty long

  • @mosninx
    @mosninx 3 роки тому +1

    By the looks of that oil pan will probably be out of a SRT10 ram truck..👍enjoying your tear down videos Buddy

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  3 роки тому

      Nailed it! Since this was the first type of this engine I’ve had in I really didn’t know what I was looking at until I ran part numbers. Thanks!

  • @keithlewis9106
    @keithlewis9106 3 роки тому

    I work at Chrysler, they place a Viper engine in a truck here , horse power like crazy, the rough was the tires would break lose and spin easy .

  • @MakeYourVision
    @MakeYourVision 3 роки тому

    I absolutely shocked: 2005-2006 years, not so long ago, and Dodge/Chrysler products 8.3l V10 pushrod engine with 2 valve per cylinder. Like in 50's! It's amazing and incredibly how they did it.

  • @tomf4547
    @tomf4547 3 роки тому

    I got an old Ducati single cylinder 10hp engine to fire up after years of neglect. I was straddling it in my old narrowboat. Wow I jumped outta there so quick, the noise was terrible 🤣

  • @johnplato4976
    @johnplato4976 3 роки тому

    Hey, I'm not the only person to use the handle end of a ball peen hammer to bump the rod loose from the caps. Always worked for me until the end of the handle gets ugly over time from tight rod bolts.

  • @Rogueginger69
    @Rogueginger69 3 роки тому +2

    No mass produced engine experiences 0 failures.

    • @member57
      @member57 3 роки тому

      But Chrysler experiences a lot... 😂

    • @Rogueginger69
      @Rogueginger69 3 роки тому

      @@member57 Chrysler always has the most reliable engines, takes notes son. Any La Mopar small block will last forever especially 318's. Now if you want the most reliable engine ever made then thank Chrysler for the mighty Slant Six. And the viper v10 and the Hellcats 6.2 v8 our the most powerful and reliable modern American production car engines. Ford and Chevy have millions of recalls on all sorts of cars for their unreliable engines and transmissions. At least my Chrysler recalls are for simple little problems like the tail gate on the Ram not always locking lol.

    • @member57
      @member57 3 роки тому

      @@Rogueginger69
      Fiats are rolling junk. Don't care about most powerful. The slant six days are long gone, fiat is now a shadow of it's former self. Every fiat owner I know has had there fiat ingest their valve seats. Every single one. Days of chrysler are bygone. There is zero reliability after 100k miles on a fiat engine. It will eventually eat it's own valve seats. The only long lasting reliable engine put in a fiat is the Cummins, that is because somebody else makes it.

    • @Rogueginger69
      @Rogueginger69 3 роки тому

      @@member57 I'm talking about Mopars not Fiats. I'm just saying Chrysler has always had some of the most reliable engines. These Hellcat engines out here these days are one of the most incredibly tough and reliable engines ever made for a production car. And I do care about power that's why I choose Mopar.

    • @member57
      @member57 3 роки тому

      @@Rogueginger69
      That are built by FIAT (FCA). Wouldn't own one if someone gave me a hellcat equiped product, I would sell it to a sucker like you. I believe I read somewhere that the hellcat equiped vehicles have the highest warranty work percentage of any vehicle manufactured, I'll see if I can find that source. What's the point in building the "most powerful" if it can't stay out of the shop? Why do you think Chrysler has been dumped by 2 major corporations. Warranty work was killing them. Fiat is on the way to dumping them soon too. In the 90s and 00s it was transmissions, now days their engines and chassis are the problem. How many dodge trucks crab walk going down the road? I get behind one and just shake my head. Being a FCA tech is job security.
      Just think of this, when rodders mentions an engine swap, what engine do 99% of people think of? I'll give you a hint, it isn't a mopar... Virtually nobody swaps in a mopar unless it's a hellcat or a 12v (which isn't even mopar). The days of Chrysler building bulletproof reliable cars are long gone since the 70s, don't even get me talking about the K-cars...

  • @dontheplumber9338
    @dontheplumber9338 3 роки тому

    Typical Chrysler, I have a 02 Pt Cruiser with a 2.4 N/A motor. Have you ever done a teardown on one? Would love to see that video. Keep up the good work. 😎

  • @Boatfisherz1
    @Boatfisherz1 2 роки тому

    Gen 1 and 2's Viper had great engines. I've never liked the Gen 2s and 3s for their looks and the lower quality of mid 2000 US made cars. I will say, I'm not surprised that there are some issues with this engine. If you know Viper owners, you'd understand why the many engines have wear. They drive them hard most of the time.

  • @jefferylara7679
    @jefferylara7679 2 роки тому

    Your new videos are definitely more refined in quality💯

  • @stringslider
    @stringslider 2 роки тому

    I remember when the Viper came out when I was a teenager. My brother and I went to the Dodge dealer to stare at it. They wouldn't let us sit in it. Haven't been near one since..

  • @Jkapp3000
    @Jkapp3000 3 роки тому

    Film the tear down of the M156 for sure. Would love to see the cam adjuster condition as well as the tappets and cam lobes. The bottom end will likely be a normal year down. Also if it’s an early W204 156 engine would be cool to see if it has stock head bolts and the condition of them

  • @aboyd1988
    @aboyd1988 3 роки тому +1

    I don't care what engine you tear down. I just want to hear you sing Lunch Lady Land while you do it.

  • @steveskare7026
    @steveskare7026 6 місяців тому

    We have a 2011 Kia Rio. 202222 thousand. Still running. This is our 3rd kia. All had high mileage before we sold them.