Expats In Spain Regretting Their Brexit Vote!
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
- A British Expat living in Spain was interviewed by The Express where he described the problems facing Brits living in the country. He also explained how many were celebrating the Brexit win in 2016 but are now saying "I Voted Remain".
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Blaming the Spanish government for a British political decision is unbelievable exceptionalism.
They also blame the Irish government for the same decision, so at least they're consistent
@@michaelkelly339 It's everyone else's fault but their own.
It makes a change from blaming the French and Germans.
And the worst thing is, even when you try to explain it to them, they just stare at you blankly, not capable to understand.
@@Steve_Coates Or the EU in general.
No sympathy with these people whatsoever. They got exactly what they voted for.
Remember, they also voted for punching down on EU citizens in the UK
Many were treated abominably by UK authorities in a disgusting display of bureaucratic ruthlessness
I do like the fact that this moaner is turning on his mates (who are now crypto-brexiters) and claiming they voted to remain
When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time
And they'll have a more than a couple of more nasty experiences/blows to their mindset before the dust has settled.
Sadly, we got it too.
They won, get over it?
mwahahahaha :-)
😂🤣😂 You won! Live with it.🤣😂🤣
Why on Earth would a Brit living in Spain (or any other UE Country, I live in France) be stupid enough to vote leave, is beyond me.
Thats very easy to explain: They see them self as exceptional. All consequences are only for the others, never for them.
Because he is a Brit...
@@rembrandt2323 No , he is English !
@@pablosaintmarr3223 Yea! The U.K. is always England to these people!
I agree entirely (and I live in France as well), but what makes me so angry about all of this is the fact that I and the great majority of British nationals living and working in EU countries weren't allowed to vote against it. How very convenient. When this kind of thing comes up in other countries, it's perfectly normal for their own consulates to provide voting facilities for their nationals living abroad.
I'm an "ex pat" - God I hate that expression, I'm an immigrant - and I never got the chance to vote because I've been living here for more than 15 years. My wife is Spanish which means if I ever want to go back to the Sceptred Isle my wife would not automatically have the right to accompany me.
TBH I avoid these flag wavers on the costas as much as I can because I very easily lose my temper. Many of them break the rules they accuse immigrants in the UK of making.....not integrating, not learning the language and not respecting local culture.
But this guy is right. We've been left hanging especially those who've never taken the trouble to actually register for residence (I've been registered for 35 years). One ex pat told me recently that she had to return to the UK every 3 months now.....when I asked her why she didn't want to register as a resident she told me that that would mean her having to pay taxes here. So, take advantage of all the services and advantages of living here but not contribute a cent.....now where have I heard that before?
Projection. So many times, right wing people are projecting. There is literally a saying at this point about the American right... Every accusation is a confession.
Imagine sitting in another EU country as an 'expat' whooping and cheering at the thought that Brexit meant those 'pesky foreigners' couldn't get into Britain as easily while not for a second thinking it'd apply to you in the country you've moved to. The inflated sense of exeptional self is unbelievable. It honestly makes me ashamed to call myself British. If anyone asks, I'm Scottish and hoping for better days ahead. ❤️
EDIT: I should clarify for those ardently correcting the term in replies, I agree! I included expats in quotations because I recognise Brits do this to avoid calling themselves immigrants. Twas part of the rant, just hope that's clear.
That is the average british Citizen. That is also a Reason kind of no Country likes you as Tourists.
@@rembrandt2323 Thanks God they are out!
Some of the brexit supporting wankers that I argued with got a sexual pleasure at the idea of kicking foreigners out of the UK but were moronicly childish enough to say that EU countries would not do the same to the British.
They are pesky foreigners too 🙂 Reciprocity. Spaniards have it as difficult to live and work in the UK as any other foreigner. Therefore British people are third country citizens in Spain as well. The Spanish government would have loved to keep things as similar as they were before but THIS British government didn't want that. Maybe next British government will rethink this. As a Spaniard who's not even thinking about moving to the UK I'd like that. I don't mind seeing Brits all over our coasts not speaking a word of Spanish and not integrating. They don't bother me. They live their lives and I live mine. But if they want to come to have a better life I wish they could do it.
@@peterebel7899 no, thank the Tories rather than some fictional character. 🤣🤣
OMG, so leaving a Union means that you don't get the benefits of being part of a Union?
Takes a genius, doesn't it?
Well, they were told by Brexiteers that there wouldn't be any downsides. Just a considerable upside.
Now that that turns out not to be true, it's obviously the fault of the EU (who never promised them anything for getting Brexit done).
@@henriikkak2091 very true. They were lied to, made a fool of.
To be fair they also chose to believe the drunkard in the pub instead of the experts, and they didn't care about the big downsides Brexit would supossedly bring to the rest of Europe... They thought they'd be able to extort EU and just now are realising they can't.
They also seem to be trying to avoid responsibility for their vote or make the lier accountable... I want to be a good Christian and forgive them, but they sure make it difficult.
" but , but , but we are British " We are God's chosen ones . Brittania Rules the Waves or should that be waives the rules
"Oh....you won't get me I'm part of the union...till the day I die". Strawbs. Great song.
@@scooby1992 well we have 2 aircraft carriers innit?
I have a British cousin who owned a second home in Spain. His family were ardent Brexiteers, who celebrated like their football team had won a trophy the day after the referendum. Let's just say he's now far from happy. He's sold his holiday home for a considerable loss and I'm struggling not to tell him that he was warned, repeatedly.
Let the hate flow thru you. Tell him what he won!!
This is what hatred of your cousin's neighbor's got them,as a EU citizen I'm jumping for joy like they were with the Brexit result's
I know someone who changed their mind quickly because his inlaws were selling up their home in Portugal to return to England, which meant he couldn't do his illegal tobacco runs and get free accomodation 4 times a year.
These people are classed as adults and get an equal vote to everyone else.
Why struggle?
Go on tell him 12 times a day 😂
I'm grateful to the Brits. No one could teach EU citizens more effectively that "independence from the EU" can only bring harm. Thanks to them, all "exiters" on the continent are now gone. Thank you, Britain. Well done.
Here in Finland we still have a party in the government that wants to leave.
Guess Finns truly are exceptional... In a very embarrassing way.
I don't think that's true. There are still political parties in Italy and other European countries that want to leave the EU
@@michaelb2388 Of course, parties financed by Russia would not change plans to dismantle EU whatever the cost.
The unfortunate thing is it only takes ½ a brain to look at Norway, and see what it costs them to remain outside. Only because of their oil and huge territorial waters has it been a viable option, which they have handled expertly. Nobody else have those kinds of resources, and Norway is even still very tightly aligned with EU legislation to keep the market open.
It then very much seemed there were a lot of people with less than ½ a brain, since they still figured leaving to be the best option.
"Ex-pats" start realizing they are actually immigrants.
@@jerryorange6983 I would say that's pretty racist but given the premise I guess it's only poetic.
@@jerryorange6983 preach
Ex/pats realize they are only foreigners in another country, like every non native is.
@@LarsEllerhorst You missed the point. These "ex-pats" have never thought of themselves as foreigners in the places in Europe they've decided to call home, because of the privilege afforded to them by being part of the EU. They went further and distinguished themselves from immigrants by calling themselves ex-pats instead of immigrants.
@@korisx I didn't miss a point, it is simply irrelevant whether or not an ex-pat thinks he's no immigrant if living in another country, there are plenty of possibilities to remind them of the realities such as the right to freely move around in Europe, that ship has sailed for them.
As a Spanish that have lived my whole life in a city for tourists, and having job after job of having to deal with this kind of entitlement, I am not surprised or sorry.
We are their little colonies that when they have retired or in their vacation they come to enjoy while treating us like crap, so no, I don't feel sorry for any of them that now are crying that my government have to think more about them.
To clarify, I know it sounds bad what I am saying, but I don't hate every tourist, but from my experience there was no other tourist's worst than the British.
Doesn’t sound Bad, U R entitled to Ur opinion and it comes from experience. I’m American and I can see Ur point… BTW Viva Espana! (Apologies I don’t have a tilde). I love Spain, will go back one day… But I ain’t staying and if I did, I’d expect to be an Immigrant and live under the Laws of whatever Country I Immigrated to..
@@Robert-uo6qi And hopefully not bringing with you american entitlement and other stereotypes.....which are as bad as anything the brits comes up with. You appears to be better than that, though.
@@torehaaland6921 I can’t always tolerate my fellow US Citizens arguments, issues, and thoughts here.. So I can for sure understand why We as US Citizens-might be looked down upon in certain circumstances… We have those here that want to Kick the Hell out of each other.. if U can’t treat Ur Family with respect, U probably won’t treat others well.. When in some else’s Country.. U gotta view Yourself as a Guest.. and try to conform a little bit.. at least try.. We have many here who won’t try to get along with each other.. We have Goods and We some Bads about Us..
Las lagrimas de estos gringos me da gracia :,) saludos desde los EEUU
@@Robert-uo6qi yeah the colonizers didn’t feel like guests, just ask any native person, they were pretty entitled to land and manifest destiny.
Here in Spain, every time we heard him tell a British man that Spain would sink without British immigrants and that nothing was going to change, he gave us a fit of laughter. They did not realize that the vast majority of British immigrants were retirees with a low economic level and did not meet the minimum financial requirements to obtain a visa, but the wrong behavior did not end there when they were offered to regularize their situation. It was discovered that they were in an irregular situation and the majority were "Under the radar" and could not be regularized. summing up KARMA and SCHADENFREUDE.
Exactly.
...And I love the fact that _karma_ came and b - slapped them in their faces... 😉👍
I would love to retire to Spain and would learn the language . I love going on holiday there and ignore the idiots who say ' we should boycott EU countries because they are picking on us '. I am more than happy to spend my money on holiday and love the people and culture . Please dont think all of us Brits are like these leave voting idiots who have screwed it up for the rest of us .
@@scooby1992 Boris picks and chooses facts as they serve him and throws smoke on the facts that don't serve him. As an American who just survived a Trump administration... please do better than we did. We have to hold these capricious brats accountable sooner or later.
A couple of years a go I spent some time in Malaga, the vast majority of the beggars in the city were of British origin.
It's hard to feel even remotely sorry for these people. Honestly what did they expect
"They couldn't have anticipated how badly it would affect them" - except that everyone on the Remain side warned them about exactly how it will affect them and they chose to call it "Project Fear"
I hear they had a nicer bus though..so you know....
but.. but... the foreigners!
@@thetruth9210 Your hate towards Irish doesn’t make you look very good, and it kind of makes your whole argument invalid.
Watching this today and clearly things are even worse now.... They're still at it. I explained the crisis in the nhs amongst other things, they said we'll I didn't know this would happen. Yes they did I told them! They're all full of cr*p
Wanting to leave the EU whilst living in Spain, you could not make it up.
Almost as funny as Rees-Mogg moving his business to Dublin, and Farage's kids applying for German passports...
@@thetragicyouth They did have a German mother.....
@@taw6528 But they were born in the UK though weren't they?
Glad we left.
@@shellyseymore6249 doesn’t matter, right of birth/blood, in a lot of countries you can get nationality with even just a grandparent
This guy totally looks like he has no clue what I had to do as a Spaniard to get my settle status in the UK, and yet afirms the Spanish gov is being unfair to Brits in Spain. The level of ignorance and lack of facts of these Brexiteers is honestly overwhelming.
The fact that the UK makes it very difficult to get settled status despite all the evidence (Wind rush etc) they feel that the Spanish Government should make an effort for them to make little Britain in Spain.
One couldn’t make this nonsense up.
Hi from Ireland 🇮🇪 Daniel. Question for you: is there much anti European sentiment in the UK at present? If so, do you think that it has intensified since brexit, and have you experienced any issues yourself?(I hope you haven't had to experience anything like that mind). Sorry, genuine question I'm just curious (and horrified by the direction the UK seems to be heading). Stay safe and well.
@@eoindee7007 As a Spaniard living in the UK for many years, I can assure you that there is a majority (especially in England) who, for a reason that is very difficult to understand in a modern and integrated Europe, are xenophobic and racist people. Although I consider myself an integrated person, I work hard and pay my taxes, I sometimes listen how people call me (us) "Manuel" or Diegos ... or mañana, mañana ... they have prejudices and feelings of superiority.
You only have to see which is the best-selling press and the most voted party in this country.
I have friends who live near Algeciras, their local municipio ran meetings for Brits to explain how to apply for residency, what documents were required etc. and provided translators to help English speakers with the forms. Seems more than fair to me.
@@iberiano-ls2rvI am English and I agree with you Angel . Please be assured that we are not all like that and you are most welcome here and actually we have an aging population so we need workers from outside the UK to come here , but so many of my fellow countrymen dont see it that way .
Anybody who voted leave and is now suffering the consequences gets zero sympathy from me. They ruined things for everyone, I hope it makes their lives very difficult.
Thank you, this is exactly how I feel.
People like this make my blood boil. Nothing but self pitying selfish twats the lot of them. Not sorry for the damage they have caused to the economy or the freedoms they stole from the youth. Oh no, just sorry as their actions have come back to bite themselves. They had all the information, I bet they were laughing in Spain drinking their sangria laughing about how they were going to show the Europeans who the boss was. I can't stand them. They deserve everything they get.
There's a Qoute in Predator II: "The Door... swings in both Directions."
I love that this guy refers to the government as the "English government" as a Scot I want to distance myself as much as possible from Westmonster as possible.
I was going to make a similar comment but yours is a lot more polite.
As a Hampshireman I want to distance myself from Westminster as much as I can but I do not have the luxury you claim to have.
I think it's more likely he doesn't know the difference between 'England', 'Britain' or 'the UK'.
best comment!
@@Fordnan It is the British government by the English for the English.
Honestly, I can't feel bad for these people. You voted leave, *while living abroad, making use of the rules you are voting against* and now it's unfair because you are effected? That's an Olympic level of brain gymnastics.
and why should they have had a vote affecting the country I live in whilst living in an EU country .?
Affected
& their brains are still on the gym mat, TheTurtleOwl.....
@@scooby1992 because they obviously are British citizens! It's like that in the whole EU - you can travel freely, but national votes (except for "unsignificant" local votes) can only be attended by citizens. It has up- and downsides, but I think it's the only way though, otherwise other (EU) countries could easily interfere with any vote, just by sending people over to vote in their (=country of origin) favor. It's not the best system, but it makes sense for the majority of a country, which usually are people with a passport fitting the country they're living in. :)
@@scooby1992 Ability to vote
is part of citizenship. Oh I forgot the UK doesn't have any codified rights for the queens subjects.
Brexiters: We didn't think ending freedom of movement would end freedom of movement.
Also Brexiters: Don't call us 'thick'.
was watching a news night interview between 2 working class leavers from a town up north, and 2 educated remainers from london, the leaver moaned about immigrants coming to pick the veg and asked the leaver "do you think we are thick?" to be fair he didnt say yes but explained that they were lied to, i bet inside he was thinking "oh yeah, definately"
@@kevinwillis6707 Might have been even more fun if one of the remainers had suggested that leavers pick the vegs themselves.
They absolutely wanted to end freedom of movement. Just not for them.
In the US we use a joke to refer to this:
"Well, I didn't think they'd eat MY face" says the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating Human Faces party.
@@kevinwillis6707 definitely...
I'm simply astounded that it didn't occur to brexit voting Brits in Spain, as foreigners living in an EU member country, that their choice would also take away their freedom of movement. As a Brit living in Germany, that was the first thing I thought of when I saw the referendum result on TV. It was also the first issue I took steps to solve by applying for German citizenship. Within 6 months I was a German citizen with a German passport and a guarantee of freedom of movement throughout the EU.
But that's behaving like a mature adult! 😁
I had only recently returned from living and working in Germany fo r 25 yrs . I couldn't understand why people thought it was good idea and the fact that Farage was promoting it just made it even more ludicrous that they would go for it. The only thing more ludicrous is the fact that they still refuse to accept they fcuked up even when presented with the evidence. As my old drill instructor used to say " You can't educate pork !"
@@MantasNan LOL! Best reply comment to me ever! So you don't think I know what "kaput" means? Or "auf wiedersehen"? Or "danke schön" or "Autobahn"? That's already 4 German words which most people know without knowing German.
Dude, I speak English, German and Ukrainian fluently. And I can hold a relatively complex conversation in French, Italian or Spanish.
I daresay, as an obvious brexiter, you have difficulty speaking even English.
IMMIGRANTS not Expats they are IMMIGRANTS !!!!
And now they are illegal IMMIGRANTS
Ha Ha, Max referred to them as ex- pats, he is also an IMMIGRANT!
Economic migrants
Think Max did clear that distinction between expats and immigrants at the end of the video, and absolutely agree they are immigrants
@@mrpaulie45able Quite easy to google the meaning of ex-patriate.
Now they know how us "remoaners" feel. Listening to them telling us "They won".
I say to them “you won, get over it” 😂
@@adamlee3772 or Brexit is done. You are now happy
@@adamlee3772 I would say "Enjoy it while you are still high" 😂
@@YannR34 no. I was lambasted. “You lost, get over it”
Well things are changing.
@@caterthun4853 no. I was lambasted. “You lost, get over it”
Well things are changing.
What ever they thought they won, they should get over it! No sympathy for them.
There was a caller on a phone in earlier who was shouting that the Labour party lost and they should get over it and that they should stop their current witch hunt regarding Johnson.
Its the same mentality which proves that they don't understand what democracy means. They think they won a dictatorship when the referendum result and Johnson's election win in 2019 occured.
Angry misguided fools.
They voted against immigration, abd never realized that calling yourself and expat don't make you any less of an immigrant.
Absolutely it was always about “immigration” the brexidiots never realising that they too were immigrants in a different country, the delusion was and is astounding.
God, these people make me sick! What is it about Brexit do they not understand, the rules about living in an EU country from a non EU country have been in place for years. It’s the U.K. governments fault, not the EU countries
A lot of 3rd country rules were even proposed by UK.
They only understand what their bias and ignorance wants them to.
It's the British voters' fault too. It could be said that they were deceived but I don't think that the average British voter is stupid enough to be deceived if they don't want to be deceived.
Michael Kelly Unfortunately I think they are also although I now live in France I was in the U.K. At the time of the referendum and I was talking to some people in a pub who I vaguely knew and they were all going to vote Brexit to 'stop the immigration and asylum seekers' and they felt it would give us a stronger bargaining position in Europe as they would be begging us to stay as they needed the UK and it's money more than we needed Europe.
I am afraid they believe everything that disgusting rag The Daily Express feeds them about the 'Spanish Government picking on poor old British expats ' because of Brexit '., instead of the truth that as a non EU country we dont have any of the benefits of membership anymore .
I live in Spain and I’ve had all my documents in order for many years. Nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing all these leave voters who have been living under the radar here now suddenly complaining. This guys point in Spain not making it easy, sorry that’s all rubbish, Spain had made it abundantly clear from day 1, even before that, many still didn’t bother to get all their things in order by the extended deadline. Balls to them. These people are an embarrassment.
Bang on the money. That's exactly what happened.
I have lived and worked in France for nearly ten years we were given plenty of notice of what we needed to do to stay because we've not worked under the radar and been as honest as we can about our income we had no problems getting our residents card the only worry was the driving licence situation which was held up due to the UK governments delay in aching agreement but all of us living in the EU had the same problem.
Most of us knew Brexit was a bad idea but there are still a few people we know here who voted for Brexit, the same ones who are now moaning about not being able to bring stuff back fro the UK without paying duty or the second home owners who now cannot spend four or five months here at a time.
Kick `em all out. They can live behind the walls of Fortress UK and scream about how unfair the world is.
I live in Spain too and was acutely aware - with others - what Brexit would mean for us. Zero sympathy for these people.
I've lived in Spain for nearly 20 years. Had my ID card sorted out first, then they gave me that stupid green piece of paper. I was one of the first to get the TIE. Is was easy to get and fairly self explanatory
yes, Spain need tourists and their money... what they don't "need" is unregistered English migrant retirees who don't pay a dime in Spain but use the facilities and public services
And make problems: drunks fights, vandalism, etc.
@@CBOANDALUCIA I'd hope that the retirees don't get drunk and fight. "I'll kick your dentures in" just doesn't ring right.
They make house payments and they spend their money locally. By contrast, retirees on a pension bring in a steady stream of foreign currency and don't require infrastructure like extensive transportation networks, schools and colleges, and don't require the host economy to create jobs for them.
@@jdrancho1864 Everyone that lives in any place may or may not contribute . The problem is that the English thought foreigners living in their country were milking their system, but when they are foreigners living in another country, they see themselves as wealth creators bringing prosperity.
@@jdrancho1864 Except they go to the British shop owned and operated by a Brit and filled with British goods instead of going to the general store owned and operated by a Spaniard and filled with mostly Spanish goods. So that steady stream of currency is limited to the profit and wage taxes of the British shop.
Well nobody said the people voting for Brexit were intelligent, literally NOBODY
I'm not usually a schadenfreude type of person but I remember watching a news report during the Brexit vote where a couple were talking (quite proudly) about having voted to leave. They'd flown in that morning especially to vote from their home in Spain ! Happy to see these fools, who have denied the rest of us the opportunity to do what they did, now getting their comeuppance. Not inconvenienced enough in my opinion.
I on the other hand am totally a Schadenfreude type of person especially where brexit brits are concerned. Or should I say brexit english , the rest of us had more sense than t believe the scunner Farage.
The Spanish government doesn't have to make it easy on expats. All that the Spanish government has to do is treat expats as a non EU citizen. As an Italian living in the UK for the last 30 years and always working, the UK government didn't make it easy for me to obtain a settled status. Three times I had to apply as there were gaps in their tax records proving my 30 year residence (I had 30 years of continuous employment). On the third try all tax records were found (a miracle....not 🙄). I accepted these headaches so expats should not expect the Spanish government to give them special treatment.
Your wife got off that easy because she is married to a Brit.
When I was informed about all these insane hoops I would have to go through to reach settled status, I just thanked and went back to Belgium/Flanders. I think that was just the intention of Brexit, that people like me would leave.
My job as a certified networksystem-admin is now done by some English bloke. That's life... oh... wait. I'm still doing this job! They don't seem to find some English bloke willing or capable to do it, neither can they find somebody willing to move to the UK. So now I'm doing this job, remotely from Brussels as contractor, as a side-gig for about thrice my former payrate. I can't really complain about how things went for me. My plan was to stay in the UK for about 6 to 8 years. May stay was cut short by about one year.
My heart goes out for all my fellow Europeans who thought having no choice but to agree to the English terms and conditions.
@@thetruth9210, who is the truth... and who is "we" because there isn't a week I get some message from a headhunter wanting to lure me back to the UK.
Fact is... I'm no mercenary. I just wort in Europe. Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin, Munich, Brussels... there is no difference for me because I speak German, French, Dutch and English. You aren't a mercenary when you move from London to Newcastle, why would I be when I'm moving from London to Brussels?
Fact is... I only work in Europe. Freedom of movement. No discrimination, no Visa, no troubles. I come, work for a few years, pay my taxes, be a good little citizen till I'm bored of the city, then I look for something else.
You aren't Europe anymore. I don't buy from Britain, due to customs, I don't visit due to visa-shit and I won't work in Britain anymore, because getting the shit together is more trouble then you are worth. Simple as that.
I mean, even Polish truckdrivers and Romanian butchers think that you're more trouble then you're worth.
@@thetruth9210 "The only question now is which country will be next to leave or will the whole thing collapse Greek style?"
It looks like the next country leaving is Scottland leaving the UK. And the next to collapse the Greek style seems to be little England: Too much governmental spending and declining GDP and tax revenues. You may still defend your illusional Brexit and hope for the EU to crumble, we are on the continent past worrying about the UK and the Brexit results. If it wasn't for the benefit of peace in Ireland a No Deal and cutting you off from any cooperation would have been the best, just letting you enjoy your self inflicted misery alone. You can fool yourself about the great benefits of Brexit, meanwhile we carry on with our vision of an united Europe. Your new immigration doctrine allows EU citizens still to apply for well paid jobs in the UK, if anybody bothers to work there, but the low paid and low skilled jobs are now for the English peasants. Well, maybe after those glorious trade deals with Australia and New Zealand your unemployed farmers may find a temporary job harvesting in Poland or Germany for the next summer season.
@@thetruth9210 I am just enjoying the shitshow running in the UK, it's better than Monty Python and the Tories are like the in the movie Life of Brian: The PFJ and JPF together. You seems to be one of those extreme Brexiters, well enjoy the short victory until reality bites you into your ass.
@@thetruth9210I just realize those leave voters are complete morons and nationalistic xenophobes. This is the essence of all Brexiters delusions. You revealed only your own bias, Britain Britain over all in the world, like the Nazies. Only your Brexiter government turned out to be worse than every Italian government in the past and present, but it's just idiots representing idiots. If you don't know already, the whole continent, maybe even the whole world is laughing about the shitshow you are running there. I can only hope some people haven't lost their common sense and take over. For the Scottish I whish them succcess to break from the oppressive rule of the English, it's really time to end English rule over Scotland and give them back control about their own fate.
I love it when people make a choice and later on don't like and whine about the consequence of their choice. Time to be a grown up and deal with it.
I love it when people you know voted for brexit now try to claim they never did and never would have voted for brexit.
It's worse than that even. The Consequences where clear before the vote. Literally nothing that happened since then was in any way suprising.
They just claim they voted for something that wasn't even on offer. I had it the other day, someone claiming they had been lied to. I explained that they were perfectly able to see the promises couldn't possibly happen, even with just half an evening of research. They voted to take my rights away based on their own personal ignorance. They deserve what they get.
I remember not long after the Brexit referendum someone predicted that, as the bad consequences of Brexit would become more and more apparent, there would be fewer and fewer people willing to admit that they voted for Brexit. Now it’s happening. I bet in a decade or so a survey will find that only 10-15% of the population actually voted for Brexit. 😉😄
@@pansepot1490 - I think you could probably count the amount of people who publicly advertise they voted Brexit ...... just on one big red bus......
When Churchill said, "The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter." He was specifically referring to British voters...
Ermm ENGLISH voters if you don't mind .... We Scots voted to remain , however as usual our wishes were ignored in order to pander to the english inselaffen !
They keep calling themselves “expats”. The true sign of exceptionalism
True sign of stupidity.
Didn't Theresa May have a proper term for such people?
Imagination
there imigrants surely
Indeed. They are just migrants but the word can’t come out of their mouth as it would seem too degrading. My my my are they living in another planet??
Of all the Brexit voters, the ones who live in other EU countries have always been the biggest mystery to me. I'm a British citizen who has lived in Germany for the past 17 years. The first time I heard of Brexit being suggested, my first thought was that my right to be here would be negatively affected. The freedom to make one's life in any EU country, and to have almost as many rights in that country as a citizen, is one of the major advantages of one's country belonging to the EU. It's amazing that anybody could be using that right, and then cheerfully vote to get rid of it.
Ich stimme zu! Also I love living in Germany and I would never take that privilege for granted. As a South African I looked at the UK voting to leave and was left dumbfounded to say the least.
Still, the Brits are immigrants in my eyes, just like I am an immigrant in Germany. If you move to any country with the right attitude and give them their due respect, you will not have a hard time.
Prost!
I feel very sorry for Brits who live in the EU who voted remain and I also feel sorry for anyone aged under 23 who didnt have a vote ( research has shown that younger people are generally more likely to have voted remain ) .
@@scooby1992 Research also shows that people who where 18 to 25 at the time did not care enough to go vote .
Cheerfulness is easy for the stupid.
We all know..this was a vote to stop immigration into the uk,but it’s brown immigration most people don’t like,don’t these people that voted leave know that as a citizen of the commonwealth.. these people who they don’t like…have a right to apply and if successful settle here..same idiots who change their vote fro Labour to Tory…they don’t like it now..
You reap what you sow. People should take responsibility for voting for Brexit.
British "expats": they won't treat us like any other immigrants.
Spanish people: Sostén mi vermú.
Underrated comment lol
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My Polish wife and I emigrated to Poland in November of 2019, yes we saw this mess coming.
The day after we arrived my wife made sure I was registered with the authorities for healthcare and settled status among my other things and I have complied with all laws and legal requirements required of me, I've even taken a Polish driving test!
p.s. I also regard myself as a migrant to Poland not an expat.
Same story for me in Spain. It's just a case of fill out the paperwork you are required to and get on with life as required. (Income taxes etc). Not exactly surprising or complicated.
Please tell me how you learned Polish!
@@InAMinMaths The pillow case is the best teacher ...
@@InAMinMaths You can take the polish driving test in English. I know because I'm preparing for it.
Good for you.
You mean British immigrants in Spain? Expats still means immigrant. Brits are not above the immigrant label.
It's not just them that use it, American's do too.
I haven't looked up the dictionary definition but one of my primary school teachers nearly fifty years ago when asked what expat was said it applied to anyone who settled in a country other than the one they were born in not just Brits who settled elsewhere. I'm not being devicive just before Brexit for example I would have referred to a French person living and working in the UK as a French expat.
@@Lucretia9000 it depends where they are in Switzerland they are immigrants and without any rights to benefits if they want anything they have to pay...Americans are just immigrants ..when they say expats everyone corrects them in the spot ( here your immigrant not expat )
Agree these people aren't expats, but those two words don't mean the same thing that's why they're different words.
@@marsnz1002 I am married to a Pole and we live in Spain, I don't use the term immigrant, not for myself nor for my wife's family and friends in the UK, she, they and I made use of freedom of movement, as we had every right to do under EU law. However, she remains a user of FoM as Poland remains a member of the 27 but I AM now an immigrant because I have lost FoM as the UK is now a third country. Point being that FoM gave the right to live anywhere you wanted, to live/work/retire etc...you didn't have to make applications to immigrate to a country so, technically, you were not an immigrant.
Of all the average Brexit voters who may have felt hoodwinked by their vote, the one group for whom I have no sympathy whatsoever are the ex pats, living in France or Spain, who voted to stop French and Spanish ex pats living in Britain.
The british immigrants I think you mean.
Ironically I suspect there are more Brits living in France and Spain than the other way around ( not counting young French or Spanish people working in hospitality or medical or care work ) . My view towards expats / immigrants who moved away from the UK for a ' better life and climate ' AND who voted leave is ' oh dear , how sad , never mind ' .I do feel sorry for the many who voted remain as well as the 99 % remain vote by the people of Gibraltar who knew which side their bread was buttered economically living on the door step of Spain .
They were told over and over BEFORE the vote what would happen, but instead of listening they smothered themselves in their ignorance and were proud of it. They are getting exactly what they deserve and I hope the EU has no forgiveness in this situation.
The thing is, Spain already made a special residency permit for them to stay (back then). All they had to do was requesting it. It was specially tailored for them, a very simple and quick proccess, and they still failed to apply for it.
I'm a Scottish guy living on the Greek island of Rhodes, I've been here for 13 years. Believe it or not, there are some Brits here on this island who flew home to vote leave in the referendum. They were able to do that because many of them were 'living' in the UK when it suited them, for example to use the NHS and in some cases even collect benefits, and then living on a Greek island when it suited them. Those of us who have been here officially and who are residents of Greece were not legally entitled to a vote in the referendum.
So now that we have had Brexit, British residents of Greece have been issued with a new biometric residency card as a result of the withdrawal agreement. In order to get this card, you simply had to go to the immigration office with your old 'cardboard' residency card, plus proof of residency for 5 years such as tax returns, bills, house rental contract and such, get your prints taken at the police station, then wait for your new card to arrive.
This residency card enables us to remain in Greece, although we have lost our freedom of movement to other EU countries. The people who have had a problem with this process are mainly the people who didn't bother with the original paper residency card from years ago when they came here. As the guy in this video says, some came here off the plane as if they were going down the street, sit down at the nearest bar and saying "now I live in Greece" without bothering with any of the formalities. You were always required to have a residency card if you were here for more than 3 months.
Many of these so-called "ex-pats" were simply withdrawing money from the ATM as a way of living, money from the UK in the form of a pension, money from renting out their house or in some cases, money from collecting benefits in the UK such as disability benefit. In other words, they didn't need to work here and therefore didnt need to have an AFM (a national insurance number) or a residency card. So the people who didn't bother with these requirements are the people now facing a serious problem getting the new and required biometric residency card, when will be checked at airports when they come and go from Greece.
As I mentioned in the beginning, some of these "ex-pats" actually voted for Brexit and quite happily sit here whining about the number of foreigners in their country and unashamed display straight out racism and xenophobia. They sit in little "El Dorado" style cliques, with their fellow "ex-pats", having little to do with Greece or Greeks, bitching about foreigners and backstabbing people they don't like.
Now these same people are complaining about the result of Brexit, saying things like "look at what the Greeks are doing to us" when it is *they* who have helped cause this situation and took their former freedom of movement for granted. My local 'clique' of ex-pats in my village here on Rhodes don't like me, partly because I am Scottish and apparently not "one of them", partly because I have always done things properly and have always had all my required documents for Greece, and partly because I refer to myself as a foreigner, not an "ex-pat".
These dreadful people, who, in my view, shouldn't be living in a foreign country at all, are exactly the kind of people who give my genuine English friends a bad name abroad. Cheap flights from mainly Northern England coupled with total freedom of movement and little checking by the authorities had previously allowed this situation to occur. This will no longer be the case & one unexpected benefit of Brexit here is that we will no longer have any of these dreadful xenophobic racist union-jack-waiving ignorant arseholes coming here.
I will say that although I am very pro European, as are most Scots I know, and although I have my biometric card and am allowed to remain in Greece, I am heartbroken at losing my freedom of movement to the rest of Europe at the hands of, frankly, stupid people. My daughter in Scotland will not be able to do what I have done without emigrating to Greece, which is like emigrating to any other country, it is an application, not a right.
Finally, just a few weeks ago, as I walked past a local outdoor bar which had 8 of my beloved ex-pats sitting there getting pissed on wine, I overheard a couple of them commenting about me, that "Scots git", as I walked past. So to honour my own highland tradition of hospitality, I walked over and offered them a free ride to the airport when the day comes that they have to leave. I also reminded them that Hypocrisy and Xenophobia are both Greek words and happily advised them the best thing they could do is "feck off back" to wherever they came from.
As I say, we get on very well. 🙂
I am so sad for my children and yours. You are absolutely spot on with the scenario of living the life of a scammer and free loader, while moaning about the foreigners in the uk and accusing them of doing precisely what they were doing. No contributions, but expecting it all. Yet somehow they thought (and think) it is different. 🏴🧿🏴
Thank you... that was very interesting for this US citizen to read.
Alban Abú!
Man, I feel sorry for the situation those leavers put you in. Maybe Scotland will break off from the UK and be free one fine day ...
@@johnsnow5264 And they have put themselves in this situation too, John. A possible solution is an IQ test before voting.
No sympathy at all for anyone who thought Brexit was a good idea, I saw this coming in 2016 hence I voted for remain. We were always going to be easier, safer and richer as members of the European Union. Going it alone has damaged our Country on the world stage. Which will take a Generation to recover the mess, if we are lucky.
We will never recover. There are trading blocks formed and forming around the world because it is economically advantageous. We will continue to fall behind while we burn any relationships we once had with the EU. Winning aint what it use to be in the good old days.
@@colinsixhitter3303 Indeed. The Trading Block is the new Empire. To be fair they did think they could use the Commonwealth as a Trading Block....not that that's realistic.
Brexiteers, or the gammons, believe/want to believe their prostitutes when they tell them they're are incredibly interesting , and "the best lover they ever had" lol. All nonsense of course, but to them, believing in the deception makes them feel oh so good, very special too.
@@colinsixhitter3303 The Tories want to join the North American trading block.
Expect to see even more US culture in the UK and for US corporations to get more contracts with the NHS in England.
US corporations already own Boots and Lloyds Pharmacies.
While Boris Johnson makes the media look at his antics, legislation is going through Parliament to set up more NHS privatisation by stealth and reduce our right to protest against it and anything else.
No. I don’t think the mess will ever be recovered
The ones who didn't apply for settled status in Spain are irregular migrants who avoided taxes in the UK by claiming to be residents in Spain and yet never declared residency in Spain either.
Bingo. Most of them living in the Costa del Crime.
"Ex pats" is such a ridiculous term. Why not call them immigrants, because that is what they are? Why do they get a special word to make them seem like they are not the same as every other immigrant, when in fact they are exactly the same.
Yes, what a surprise- being British outside of Britain makes you a foreigner just like everyone else from another country. And what a surprise that being in the EU had advantages that are now lost forever to Brits.
I've been saying that a long time. Everyone's an immigrant.....except them.
@@56postoffice : Just want to point out that immigrants from the United States also call themselves ‘ex-pats’. But I acknowledge that it might be a bit arrogant of British immigrants to think themselves equal to Americans. The UK was once the world’s only superpower, but that was in Victorian times.
If they stay over 3 months, illegal immigrants. Ain't Project Fear a bitch?!?
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I am starting a campaign to call all immigrants expats. Polish expats, Syrian expats, Afghan expats, Pakistani expats...
@@olmostgudinaf8100 Love it!
Living for years and years in the british "ghettos" in the costa, never bothered to register or pay any taxes but using spanish infrastructure, abusing the European Health Card which was never meant for long term residents, using spanish health services and clogging the waiting lists, never bothered to learn the language, being protected by spanish police, any job cash in hand. Drinking in british pubs, buying british products and living under the radar
Of couse it is difficult for them, what it should take at most 100 euros and a couple of visits to a "gestoria" to get the paperwork in order and gain "residencia" it turns into a bureocratic nightmare, because for the spanish authorities, they do not exist, there is no paper trail, no official communications, no documents, no registration in the local council or GP, no national identity card or tax registry.
It is not "them spanish being difficult with us because of brexit", what they pretent to do is impossible from the legal point of view
Exactly. Just exactly that, and it's our Gov fault!? C'mon, hypocrite! I swear I was nearly to scream that to the screen, a part of
my family are British and I must to face this kind of SOB constantly, maked fun of me when they tough I can't understand them, and much, much more thinks like this.
You nailed it. That's what it is.
Another way of tax evasion...now coming to daylight due to Brexit. 😜
That is exactly 100%right
This is the truth of it. I moved to Valencia 15 years ago and since the first day paid taxes here, registered here etc etc and have had zero issues. It's not that they are into tax evasion. It's a dumb belief that they are "ENGLISH!" and therefor they are above certain rules and regulations in another country as their British passport entitles them to special treatment wherever they go. Disillusion idiots.
Two years ago I met an older British couple in Spain who lived there for many years and I had to translate for them to Spanish people. They lived in a British bubble (and left it for a day) in Spain and didn't bother to learn some Spanish. It was a very painful situation for all involved. But they want to live there permanently and get free healtcare. They should have asked for the Spanish citizenship but how do you do that if you don't master the language? You don't do that in English, be serious.
If all the people in your country who now claim to have voted “remain”, you would have defeated Brexit and still been in the EU. ExPats indeed!- Rich
It nust shows how prescient James O'Brien was. He said a whole _three years ago_ that it will be like reverse Woodstock: no one will admit to ever voting Leave.
@@olmostgudinaf8100 it is happend before .. you can't find anybody in Germany who's granfather was a nazi.
I DEFINITELY voted Remain & am now Rejoin fk the idiots !
@@speedy7040 - Great point! People can be lulled by a lie. Of course after 1933, it was less than prudent to be anti-Nazi, but I think most were probably like the citizens of GB-secure in the knowledge that they were somehow “special”. The fact that they use the term ex-pats instead of foreigner only shows that to be true- Rich
I moved to Australia in 2015 from England and am mighty happy I have avoided this fiasco. Most Brits here call themselves expats and have no issue in describing the UK as ‘home’ even when they are Australian citizens and have lived here for decades with no intention of returning to the UK to live.
Labels are important. I self-describe as an immigrant and that surprises even the Aussies I know. More than one has responded ‘you’re not really an immigrant’ by which I know they mean that I am not the same as immigrants from Asia. The inherent racist undertones is pretty clear.
EXpats your Fucking Immigrants as well..
I'm a kiwi and had a Welsh flatmate who used to go to a pub nearby where there were pretty much nobody but Brits. Almost all working class, retired or close to it, tradesmen or middle range clerical, who spent most of their time talking about British subjects. Created the impression in me that for working class emigres from Britain, the love of their homeland is in inverse proportion to their proximity to it.
As a Brit who moved to Germany 40 years ago I refer to myself as an, ``Economic Immigrant´´ . Just a shame everybody tries to forget the UK with 4 Million Unemployed purposely created by the Tories, and then voted for Boris and Brexit!
Britain was at the zenith of their wealth after 40 years of EU membership, I blame the Asians though, they voted for Brexit because Priti Patel told them that once the Poles were out they could flood the UK with Curry Cooks!
@nogent4213 Australia is NOT a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant country.
Australian's today are mixed ethnicity and religiously.
WASP - White Aryan Supremacism Perpetrators, or so it would seem.
My two strongest memories of the day after the vote to leave. Loads of people saying they regret voting to leave as they didnt realise it would mean 'X' . Also the utter gobsmacked shock of people who thought the UK was going to hand the EU a list of demands and swan off to financial glory, while giving them the fingers with all their membership benefits intact.
I get about and have never since 2016 have I heard ANYBODY say they regret voting leave in and around Yorkshire and the rest of my extended family that live in the North West ,politics these days is rarely spoke about in pubs ,as people talk about their own problems and certainly not figures in the news like Boris ,if they do it"s usually about how many kids he has or likely to have without worry to his finances !.
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The people who I know voted to leave seem to fall into one of two camps; either they now keep very quiet about their choice, OR they lie and say they voted to remain.
Beautifully said.
@MsCheesemonster13 how do you know they voted leave if they lie and said they voted remain
Why on earth would a British person living in the EU vote leave??? What could they possibly have thought they had to gain?
Totally agree with the point about "expats". I lived in the UK for 50 years and was never, in the spoken word or in print, ever referred to as anything other than an Irish immigrant. I now live in Bulgaria amongst other "expats" or immigrants, depending on where you were born and your sense of entitlement.
Totally agree. Was born and raised in UK to mixed Irish/European immigrant family. As long as I can remember I was reminded I was from an "immigrant family". It's a county that can really make you feel unwelcome. I left as soon as I could.
O'Neill lovely name, what County did you hail from?
@@MrSham61 Kilkenny, Left when I was three years old though :)
I have lived more than half my life in England and never felt really welcome. When I first visited in the mid 60s there were still signs saying No dogs, no black no Iriah.
@@PanglossDr Yes I remember those even up to the early 80's... outside a few pubs and gyms in New Cross and on the Old Kent Road.
Not happy to say I predicted exactly this reaction long before the vote was taken, British exceptionalism laid bare.
"it won't apply to us WE are British doncha know?"
the sheer bloody arrogance of these people, they honestly believed they could vote for the UK to kick out 'bloody foreigners' without it having any impact on them, I have sympathy for the British immigrants in the EU who voted remain, as for those who voted leave and are now complaining because it's affecting them, cry me a river.
Next prediction I made was that their 'fellow Brits' would be resentful towards the "ex pats" as they begin to come 'home' and require housing, and benefits here. mark my words,
PS, another prediction I made was that, just like in Germany after the war it soon became hard to find a German who admitted to supporting the Nazis, so will it also become hard to find anyone who admits to voting leave, it's happening already.
Don't deny yourself the pleasure of a "i told you so ". Enjoy it. Wallow in it . They said so often that they know what they where voting for
@@nadinefeiler9204 OH you can be assured I NEVER miss a chance for a good old "I told you so" after all 'they' didn't mind the constant "you lost get over it" (even though as a supporter of democracy I accepted the result from day one I didn't LIKE it, I thought/think it was utter madness) lots of my friends now resent me for being right all this time, brexit has certainly shown some of the darker sides of some of my friends... and ex friends.
It's not "British" exceptionalism (Scotland didn't vote for Brexit), it's English exceptionalism, pure and simple (H.T.F. Wales voted for Brexit is beyond me, talk about biting the hand that feeds!).
It's not British exceptionalism (Scotland didn't vote for Brexit), it's English exceptionalism, pure and simple though HTF Wales voted for Brexit is beyond me - talk about biting the hands that feeds!
What it was and is, is British arrogance, the, " We are special, they wouldn't dare treat us migrants ( NOT Ex Pats ) like any other foreigners." I live in Greece and follow the rules here for over 26 years now, I class myself as a migrant !
Why not go for citizenship? I assume you speak Greek by now. Took me under 2 years.
@@conradpreen2368 Don't want to give the UK Gov' an excuse to stop my State Pension !
I think this will be something momentary. In fact, I even have a pretty rough theory but I don't want to go deeper but it fits perfectly. and I think curves are coming to screwed levels for everyone. I hope I'm wrong. but the drums of war are getting louder at many points.
No, it was arrogance and ignorance of these people living in Spain.
@@baltasarmelchor935 Ukraine is contentious.
The Spanish government even made a special regulation so british inmigrants who were already stablished in Spain before the brexit could retain their residency. An exception was tailored specifically for them. How can he say the Spanish government hasn't made it as easy as the British government. What has done the UK government for spaniards to stay living and working in the UK?
Ladies and Gentlemen, an English Johnny foreigner living in Spain deluded into believing he's an "expat".
In his case 'expat' = twat.
As an Spaniard: Brexiteers thought "they depend on us, they will have to adapt and let us come and go as we wish", but they didn't account for one thing: if not to Spain (or Southern Europe in general), where are you going to go? Every other destiny is still more expensive than coming to Spain, even after having to go through the legal hoops to come here. And an infraestructure adapted to cater to the British tourist already exists. And we are the nearest to you. And you already have the homes here. So if not here, where were you going to go? It turned out the power was in our hands, not yours.
So, while there was some initial fear in the tourism industry, it turned out it wasn't that bad (at least until corona came). Meanwhile, Spaniards with no interest in or dependance on tourism that still live on tourist areas hoped for the disappearance of the "rude british tourist", a very much hated stereotype in Spain.
Yeah, maybe all those brexiteers shot themselves in the foot.
I am English and love visiting Spain for holidays . I love the country , the people and the climate and I voted to remain in the EU . . These people who lived in Spain who refused to properly register or pay taxes or learn the language and voted ' leave ; are an embarrassment to me .I just wanted you to know that not all British people are like them .
When having coffee in Southern France. I did my best at ordering coffee with my non existing French. Two English ladies sat at next table and talked loudly in English to the French waitress kept repeating the order. To my embarrassment. Then complained to each other other that she should speak English. The waiter at next table was English and told them that they did not serve such rude people. They left I ordered another coffee in my French and smiled
generally I agree, but one thing that Spain needs to be careful of is that Portugal (ie Algarve and Madiera) is significantly less onerous for non-EU citizens to immigrate to as pensioner (or for work) vs Spain. Spains income requirements for a non lucrative visa is over €27k pa vs under €12k pa in Portugal. Spain prohibits any work (even remote work OUTSIDE Spain, simply insane!) vs Portugal which allows work including remote work or within Portugal. 5 yrs residence in Portugal is enough to get a full Portugese citizenship and passport while in Spain its 10 yrs. All of which means alot more Brits will migrate to Portugal and so will their pensions and investments.... Also Spain has a terribly inefficient and overly bureaucratic government, with WAY TOO MANY LAYERS of govt and FAR TOO MANY bureaucrats. They could easily do with half of all the paper pushers and seat warmers wasting time and taxpayers money... dont expect Brussels to bail Spain out without some serious reforms to Spains bloated ineffective bureaucracy. Case in point, I live on an island with 90k residents, and there are 13 municipal govts, for under 100k population!! utterly ridiculous.
A lot of English are not that bright
@@robertgalloway3771 A lot of people are not that bright.
"They couldn't have anticipated it" Really, how thick do you need to be? .......
Not EXPATS. They are IMMIGRANTS to Spain. The immigrants they despise for going the other way 🙄
They got what they voted for. The fact that they didn't add up the two plus two to realize what the consequences were going to be is very unfortunate but also something that anyone with half a brain would have been able to predict.
The greatest argument against democracy is the the dumb having a majority
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The US writer H L Mencken put it well: Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
@@Cashdummy Great line and so very true unfortunately.
Ah yes, but you're giving these muppets far too much credit. Brain cells completely missing in their case, let alone half a brain!
@@salubrious Unfortunately that seems to be true for half the world's population (and also explains how the idea of Brexit ever managed to become a thing).
The fact that he keeps referring to "England" rather than the UK speaks volumes.
Can't say that I'm surprised. As a Canadian, I can't retire in Spain, I can only spend limited time there with medical insurance. Otherwise, I could apply for landed status which is a large bureaucratic process. The UK is now in the same boat, they purposely left the EU on a racially charged, mis informed referendum campaign.
But that‘s the infuriating thing - it *wasn‘t* mis-informed (although definitely it was xenophobic, if not outright racist). That information was easily out there, and even common sense would tell you how dumb it was to be a UK immigrant in Spain, voting to leave the EU. Anyone who wails about misinformation now was wilfully ignorant, and I don‘t forgive that.
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There is so much knowledge out there yet ppl still choose to be ignorant & arrogant. The media decides what you 'know' if you're not smart enough to find out yourself.
@@burningmisery And even with no information out there, I truly believe that common sense should have been enough for this particular consequence. I‘m genuinely surprised such dumb, xenophobic people still exist. I thought they‘d really died off by now.
It wasn’t misinformed, I was someone who supported the stay movement and not just because of free movement but because these leaver bums don’t do manual labour, we need workers, instead they expect the world handed to them on a silver platter, now we all have to suffer a little but I hope they suffer the most. We warned them too.
@@lornarettig3215 I agree and it was repeated a lot about expats. Heard it so many times. So many arguments for staying in even in the case of thinking the EU is not good, it just made zero sense and they were told (zero exit plan predicted mess? Zero ability to change from inside? Not being able to exist in a vacuum and still having to deal with them like norway does, but without a vote?)
Someone told them facts were lies and went on about sovereignty.
*They couldn't have anticipated how badly it would affect them*
Yeah right, while the remainers and the rest of EUROPE told them how exactly it would affect them.
Yep - I anticipated exactly how badly it would affect them!!!! The hypocrisy and stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me.
They are even telling lies to themselves to try to cover up their own foolishness
It means they only recently discovered that is was foolish.
Imagine doing something obviously stupid. Having millions of people explaining to you why it is foolish. Dismissing all of this and replying with even more foolish 3 word slogans. And then, after it happens. Suprise, it turns out to be foolish.
If I messed up so big, I would try to cover it up too^^
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remember when daughter of immigrants Patel smiled and said "ive stopped freedom of movement" and the brexitliars cheered.
This made me chuckle.
To xenophobes, racists and bigots: doesn't feel too great to be unwelcome and unwanted does it?
I'm afraid I have no pity for Brexit voters; you got what you deserve. The only downside (colossal downside), is that you took 'Remoaners', like me, down with you.
Exactly.
Well put.
You would have spoken differently with all those boats coming from France coming ashore, of that camp across in Calais happily drop in and claim citizenship.
It's not Xenophobic to want to protect your culture, nation, borders. That's being patriotic.
And even his dumb EU mindset of going everywhere and claiming citizenship rights is a EU idiocracy we definately can do without.
@@ShannaNL Not well put.
@@ShannaNL LOLz, the UK still claims that by resetting 25k refugees over a decade and a half it did more on that front than any other EU country. The fun part of Brexit is that the UK can no longer return refugees that have passed through an EU country to get there. Even funnier is the fact that refugees who have been made to feel welcome are quicker to integrate into British culture than any British immigrant in an EU country would, I'd like to present the current second generation refugee and all-round British exceptionalist the xenophobic home secretary Pritler Patel as a prime example. Oh, and before whinging about the country being full, GB has 707 people per square mile and the Netherlands over 1150, yet somehow they managed to resettle 25k refugees in 2019 and 2020 combined. In all honesty GB should be ashamed of its refugee record, especially considering its colonial history and willingness to meddle in other countries militarily. For years British governments have been happily throwing rocks at hornets nests while safely ensconced behind the safety barrier of the Dublin regulations, but those days are gone. I wonder how long it will take for the English to build refugee housing facilities solely in Wales and Scotland...
Maybe the British living in Spain didn't know that this is an European Union country member since 1986, I spend a few months in the cloudy island back in 2004 and some people asked me if Spain was in Africa , I obviously said yes. I wish all the Brexiteers they enjoy their vote, you did us all a favor.
A couple of things:
1- That "expat" thing is xenophobic garbage and must go. They are immigrants like everyone else in a situation similar than theirs.
2- The Spanish authorities just required from them what is necessary as they are now residents in Spain from a third country, and did it with months in advance. They can keep their exceptionalism to themselves.
Expat expat expat expat. Such a beautiful word - Expat
@@denisss6837 Not sure, as a Spaniard it sounds like "spud" to me.
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In my country "patte" (pronounced like ex _pat_ ) is a very, very vulgar word for a woman's breasts.....
Yep. All I had to do was keep the bureaucracy correct and fill out the same paperwork as any other person who required it. Was really simple to be honest.
As a European immigrant in Vietnam, I agree.
As a Brit who lives in Germany and integrated with the local people, learned the language and even gained dual nationality, all I can say about "Ex Pats" living in Spain and NOT having integrated is, shut up get on with what you voted for.
Would you repeat that in German please?
I'm the same, but I have the impression that the Brits in Germany are both more dispersed throughout the country and have made the effort to learn German. The ones in Spain, however, are a different breed entirely.
I'm also eternally grateful to the German government for giving me citizenship.
@@MisterBrain Not all of us lol! But yes I avoid the ghettos on the coast as if they were leper colonies. They make those of us who has integrated look bad. The good thing is that 99% of the Spanish population can tell the very clear difference between those of us who integrate and those who don't.
@@MisterBrain If you have dual citizenship, it will soon be possible for Priti Patel to strip you of your British nationality, no questions asked. The Bill is now going through parliament. Vote Tory for more of the same.
I wasn’t aware that Germany allowed dual nationality. That’s a big surprise to me. However it is one I’m now going to look into.
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha! "Be careful what you wish for and more careful about what you vote for."
Ditch that term "Expats" please. Nobody in Britain refers to residents from the EU, the Caribbean, Africa, India, Pakistan, China, as "Expats". They are "immigrants", "foreigners" and often "bloody" ones.
Brits resident in Spain, such as me, are in exactly the same category. I resent people pretending otherwise. (I'm a remainer by the way, but only nominally as I was, bizarrely one could a argue, barred from voting in the EU referendum. So much for democracy!) As for difficulties since Brexit, there are relatively few if you were smart enough to get all your paperwork done before the end of the transition period. Expecting Spain to be more accommodating now is ridiculous. They didn't vote Brexit.
How dumb is it that, British immigrant people living and working in the EU are voting to leave EU..😂🤣..Can anyone pls tell the benefits of Brexit??
Except if you believe it wont be applied to your self.
The benefit is that Brexit means Brexit :-))
And don't call them stupid, because they knew exactly what they voted for^^ LOL
Are you sure that guy has a job where he is?
A back-to-traditional blue passport?
It's interesting because we moved to Spain in Sept 2020 and rushed our residency applications through in time for 31st Dec 2020. We had no problems, Spanish officials were helpful even congratulated us and welcomed us as residents on completion ofbthe applications. The problem seems to be with people who lived here already, or were half here and half in the UK, thinking they simply had the right to stay in Spain without processing their residency applications before the 31st Dec deadline. We know lots who left it until 2021 before finding out their automatic rights no longer existed and that the goalposts for finances, etc., all moved after that Brexit deadline. Since everyone was talking about it constantly up to that date and beyond, it's hard to understand how these people buried their heads in the sand, ignored the deadline and now feel betrayed. Too much sun is my guess.
A lot of those Brexiter types in Spain were living under the radar, not paying tax or NI. That caused them problems at the transition as they couldn't prove residency. Their problem and I'm not sorry for them. They brought it on themselves.
Too much sun, or too much The Sun?
@@Nosregni You just got my "best comment of the day" award!
Two words , ' British exceptionalism ' or more accurately possibly ' English exceptionalism '. they honestly thought ending Freedom of Movement only meant stopping ' Jonny Foreigner ' coming to the UK from the EU and not British ' expats ' staying in their English speaking ghettos on the Costas .
Too much Express, as well.
"the way it's been handled... bad management..." Even the interviewee needs to give his head a wobble.
We warned them.
We told them.
We said this would happen.
I know there are many who were gutted... I'll just bet they've got themselves sorted out, and I'd lay any money these people haven't prepared.
No sympathy.
None, especially as they don't have the sheer courtesy to admit they got it wrong.
Especially the part how easy the brits made it for people from Spain to live in the UK ... er what ?
Is that the reason why now the UK desperately tries to get HGV Drivers and other people like butchers to the UK with temporary visa ?
As a Scottish guy living in Italy wading through the bureaucracy of becoming Italian, it makes me happy that some of the people who voted for Brexit are suffering even just a little.
There is a guy I know here who has dual British and Irish citizenship and he voted for Brexit knowing that it would never effect him.
Can you imagine walking into your local golf club and telling the secretary that you no longer wanted to be a member however you still wanted to have a round of golf there if and when you felt like it !!
And probably parking in the club captains cars space at the same time.
@@johnholkham2420 Hi I remember years ago at College doing a Social Care Course the tutor explaining the A,BC's ie Anticedents Behaviour and Consequences this is how we left the EU. The Anticedents was the build up of anti EU talk among the Press,MP's and other Media outlets. The Behaviour was the bus with £350m to the NHS every week plus the queue of Turkish immigrants waiting to swim the channel and the Consequences are no £350m no queues from Turkey and the shambles of NI,higher costs, shortage of drivers, nurses,Care staff doctors etc etc what a mess at least here in Scotland we just might have other options 🏴
Excellent analogy. "I'm special ("so f. special") me, ergo, normal/regular/sane rules DO NOT APPLY in my case!"
They thought freedom of movement would only be restricted one way 🤣. Great to see people having to live with the consequences of their racism.
These are the worst lot of winners that I’ve ever seen. To think that you actually got what you voted for and then whine when you get it. You were told what would happen and you stuck your head in the sand and called us alarmists and fear mongers. I have no more f’ks to give for these people.
The only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. A brexiteer in other words.
IT IS CALLED BEING IGNORANT.
The guy says the "spanish and English " governments.
We Scots voted decisively to remain.
You missed that Max.
Amazing how many of those that voted to leave , had already left . 👏👏
100% correct!! excellent video. I am a Canadian "expat" living in Spain since 2017. I see no reason at all why Brits should have ANY special treatment vs other non-EU expats living here.
The only ones who think they should get special treatment are those Brits living in Spain who didn't do the paperwork they were constantly told to do.
@@thetruth9210 Brits are whining about having to follow the same rules that are applied to all other non EU expats.
@@larrybxl5406 no, a small number of Brits who live in Spain and didn't bother registering are whining. The vast majority of Brits living in Spain are not whining and got on with what they needed to do to stay in Spain as long as they like.
@@cplcabs the 'small number' of Brits doing the whining make ALOT of noise!!
@@larrybxl5406 no they don't, no one is listening to these people apart from a few remainers. This story was out long before this video was posted and it was shown then that these people were at fault and as such no one is interested.
The British immigrants in Spain were just like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Semantic is important, why they keep on calling the expat when they are British in another country when they call any other person who get in the uk migrants? Those are British migrants. See the consequences of not listening to those who told you what will come.
I lived in Thailand for six years and would never consider myself an expat because I worked in a school, spoke as much Thai as I could, and never went to touristy places. The self-proclaimed "Expats" out there are really just ghetto dwellers, whom you rarely see outside their Anglicised domain of bars, strip-joints and air-con condominiums.
@@martynjones8560 I have to agree with you as a french person who lived 18 years in the uk and now a migrant in Germany who is looking to move to another European country taking full advantage of the freedom of movement.
For me, your headline amounts to good news and brings a smile.
Well said! Any British person lives or works anywhere in theEU who voted for Brexit has to look hard qt themselves and say "I must be more responsible for my vote".
How arrogant of this individual to think the Spanish government owes him anything? He needs to pack his bag and go back to England
I started planning my escape on the tick of the hour that the referendum results were announced. Not needing a crystal ball to foresee the coming shitshow, I researched my opportunities for departure. During that time ,the best advice i was given regarding escape to the European mainland was 'make sure you are allowed to' . After holidaying on the island of Gran Canaria for around 20 years, and realising that was my home I succesfuly gained my TIE. now live happily as an immigrant in a small town with my Canarian neighbours, pay your taxes and learn the language.
I want to live in Spain but it’s become considerably more difficult because of these fools who didn’t realise what they had. I have absolutely zero sympathy for anyone who voted leave and is now experiencing hardships but I have a special loathing for these ones.
We will be moving next year end , I have my Irish overseas birth papers in front of me right now , just filling in the forms.
I've had fun with that expat/immigrant distinction for years working behind a consular desk with some of those choice Brits who decided to make small talk by voicing their opinions about the "all the immigrants coming over". Always good to ask... Who do you mean. The French? The Italians? Other Brits? They don't like it when you point out they are immigrants too because it leaves them very little else to distinguish other than the colour of skin....
Brexit was one of the most stupid things that the Brits ever did to themselves. How does removing yourselves from a huge trading block and imposing all sorts of restrictions on yourselves HELP your situation? All it was was an effort to exhibit racist and bigoted ideals while not SEEMING to be so. It was POORLY thought out, IF thought out at all. But hey, YOU voted for hurt yourselves, make travel far more difficult and decimate your economy, YOU get to live with that. Enjoy!
Well they clearly didn't think the restrictions would apply to them but applies only the poor immigrants and goods coming into Britain to take their lunch!
@@rusticbox9908 Exactly. It was a racist, xenophobic thing to do and it's costing them. As it should. Such stupidity should be rewarded with pain and suffering.
It is intended to help the wealthy ERG vultures! So that makes it ok for the rest of the country to suffer! 🤬
@@thetruth9210 That's only because it's less worse than being killed in the country they fled from! You know that - but as a Tory you have to resort to ANY excuse to justify Brexit! "The Truth" it ain't! "Lies" it IS!
@@thetruth9210 : I never said that!
I read about Brexit with horror from across the pond (US) and knew how bad it'd be for Britain... it doesn't cease to amaze me how many people can be fooled by con-men and act against their own self-interest (both UK & US at that time). But if I was to visit Britain, I'm sure I would be kicked out of cities and villages by telling them I could see what would happen, why couldn't they?
One of the things which amazed me the most was that Brexiters managed to paint the pro leave vote as the patriotic one. Complete twist of reality.
Would it be too simplistic to suggest that the vote for Trump and the vote for brexit had similar roots: racism and xenophobia?
There are alot of run down towns in Northern England and also in parts of Wales that have suffered from the decline of traditional industries which havent been replaced . Governments of all colours are responsible , but especially the Gvt of Margaret Thatcher , a woman who didnt believe in community spirit and was happy to let those with no qualifications sink into a state of unemployment and drug abuse . The last Labour Government did try their best with various initiatives such as sure start but these areas also had a lot of development money from the EU spent on them . These areas almost all voted to leave the EU and I think it was about kicking Eastern European migrants out who were allegedly ' taking their jobs ' , even though they were doing work we didnt want to do ( and unemployment is much lower now ) . It is true that the UK as a rich country paid more into the EU than we got back , but the Single Market made trading across borders with our biggest export market easier so helped with economic growth . As far as I know the UK Government has not promised to match the spending the EU used to make in these areas .
it depends on how pretty you are
Its actually great for the UK. The UK now is not paying billlions into the EU and receiving little to nothing for it and also does not have the EU controlling it. The UK has more trade agreements in place than the EU with more to come, the UK has a back door to the worlds biggest trading bloc in the world (which is not the EU by the way) and will become a member of it soon, exports to the EU are at pre pandemic/Brexit levels, trade with non EU countries is higher than it has been for decades (since the EU came into existence 30 odd years ago) etc etc.
The person in this old video being interviewed is just a short sighted fool who basically didn't do the correct paperwork to remain in Spain or is a criminal (a number of criminals emigrated to Spain to escape the authorities).
They emigrated to another country and acted like they were some kind of 19th century British colonials in India. Going so far as insisting on calling themselves expats because of the contempt they have for anyone they can call immigrant or migrant. So of course they didn't believe it would affect them, they think they are Expats never they despised immigrant or migrant.
There are zero Brit "expats" in the Little England ghettos across Spain. But there are many hundreds of thousands of mono-lingual Blighty-born foreigners holding blue British passports produced by a Dutch company at its printing subsidiary in Belgium.
I thought they were printed in Tczew, Poland
"We got exactly what we voted for, and we're very angry about it"
'Retardism', in a nutshell.
I voted remain, as I could see the benefits of being a United Europe. Also, my husband is Polish, so many leave voters we convinced my husband was “safe” because he was married to me, a British Citizen. However when I explained the immigration complexities most were shocked that my husband had no protections other than settled status.
Least he has the right to live , work and retire in 27+1 countries.
Sadly, this right has now been denied to you and probably your children. Brexit . So unbelievably sad
@@hugogreen4916 He sure does, and as you say sadly those rights have been denied of me and our son! When we do retire it’s likely to be Canada or New Zealand!
With the Nationality and Borders bill, your husband is sadly no longer safe.
This just proves the point that Brexitiers didn't know what they were voting for.
They did. They just never thought that outside the UK, they would be on the receiving end.
They don't care how much damage it causes as long as Priti Patel can smile at the fascist laws that she keeps putting through parliament.
No, it proves that these people who are living in Spain are just entitled fools. In the main, those who voted for Brexit knew what they were voting for and that is what they are getting. Brexit is proving a success with the fact that the UK now has more trade deals in place than the EU with more to come, exports to the EU are at pre pandemic/Brexit levels, trade with non EU countries is higher than it has been for decades, we have a back door to the biggest trading bloc in the world which we will soon be a part of, we are no longer under EU control, we do not have to pay billions into the EU any more and get little back and so on.
@@cplcabs Don't panic. Your coke dealers only going to be 20 mins late tonight.
@@TheVicar i don't have a coke dealer, but you obviously do if you are judging others by your low standards. You clearly dislike facts.
He still wants to blame the Spanish government. 😂
I remember years ago the British ambassador in Spain spreading his opinion the Spanish government has the duty to take care nothing will change for those "expats".
He could look at the positive of this ,
He is at least lucky he isn't living under the most corrupt government in history here
@@chrismurphy6070 Yeah, but that would run counter to the typical Brexiteer mindset: angry, embittered and whiny.
a classic xD
The fact that he blames any government shows his stupidity.
I have been living in Belgium for 25 years. I was not allowed to vote in the referendum. I broke my foot 3 days after the referendum but I went to the commune (town hall) in a wheelchair to apply for Belgian citizenship. I got it and I’ve been a proud Belgian ever since. I have two passports UK and Belgian.
They deserve everything they voted for!
If they had properly paid their taxes, followed the regulations of that country, they wouldn’t have a problem. As exceptionals they don’t have to fulfill obligations of another country, do they?