Forge welding with Filip Ponseele: the double cleft weld! (2020)

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  • Опубліковано 22 вер 2020
  • Belgian Blacksmith Filip Ponseele demonstrates a double cleft weld in mild steel. The flux used is Quartz sand.
    The two bars are upset, then tapered and cut to form two clefts. The two clefts are then pushed together to hold the two bars together.
    After fixing together, the clefts can be forge welded together.
    Email: TechnicusJoe@gmail.com
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  • @grandadz_forge
    @grandadz_forge 3 роки тому +3

    Sir Ponseele has a wealth of knowledge that is enjoyable to soak in. Thanks Joey

  • @wyattkindler496
    @wyattkindler496 3 роки тому +38

    It would be interesting to cut the bars right in the middle of the weld to see if there's any inclusions where the bars initially came together

  • @jolllyroger1
    @jolllyroger1 3 роки тому +4

    It's always a pleasure watching a craftsman play his craft.... this one knows what he is doing

  • @demastust.2277
    @demastust.2277 3 роки тому +3

    I really really love Filips choice in hammer style. French patterns are lovely.

  • @sirtalkalotdoolittle
    @sirtalkalotdoolittle 3 роки тому +2

    I have no idea how this showed up in my recommended videos, but I'm glad I watched it.

  • @MrDukaman
    @MrDukaman 3 роки тому +6

    Awesome weld. Ever time I watch him I learn something Thank you joe and flip .....Paul⚒🔥👍

  • @Fire_And_Iron
    @Fire_And_Iron Рік тому +2

    Excellent video.

  • @alexnosheds
    @alexnosheds 3 роки тому +4

    Incredible archival work you two are doing. Inspiring!

  • @motd8931
    @motd8931 3 роки тому

    I love these videos you do with Filip. Learning a lot. I'm still in awe he got that slug out while it was still yellow!

  • @mrmyorky5634
    @mrmyorky5634 3 роки тому +2

    It's fascinating to watch someone who is clearly a highly skilled blacksmith forge welding a butt joint. Thank you sir, it made a refreshing change after watching a growing number of cowboy You-Tubers pretending to be real engineers.

  • @jaredbradley4095
    @jaredbradley4095 3 роки тому +3

    While watching this all I can think about is a got arthritis from fishing and this guy is going like a champ 😂. Awesome craftsmanship

  • @robertwolfe3868
    @robertwolfe3868 3 роки тому

    Really enjoying your videos with Filip. Thanks.

  • @NeilGraham.I.M.F
    @NeilGraham.I.M.F 3 роки тому +1

    Again thank you for sharing, great to watch a master at work

  • @bentoombs
    @bentoombs 3 роки тому +3

    That was one of the coolest forge welds I've seen. 🤟 🔨On!!

  • @CosmoStas_IkonoStas
    @CosmoStas_IkonoStas 3 роки тому +2

    Hello from Quebec!! Thank you for sharing!

  • @knifethrower9733
    @knifethrower9733 3 роки тому

    Love this guys work, living the dream

  • @lewerim
    @lewerim 3 роки тому

    I love this channel.
    Your guest moves with great speed an authority. A very confident Smith.
    And he has a stellar moustache. So, there's that. :)

  • @douglasfathers4848
    @douglasfathers4848 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Joey really enjoy watching Filip at work he makes it look so easy.
    So thanks for sharing mate, (:

  • @AnthraciteGari
    @AnthraciteGari 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful demonstration, excellently filmed. Very nice.

  • @keltheblacksmith9271
    @keltheblacksmith9271 3 роки тому

    Y’all are having way too much fun!

  • @brysonalden5414
    @brysonalden5414 3 роки тому

    Thanks for making a fairly difficult weld look so easy!

  • @mtyson9004
    @mtyson9004 3 роки тому +1

    Very cool gentlemen! Thanks for sharing and God Bless you guys!

  • @louislarose6613
    @louislarose6613 3 роки тому

    Great welds ! Good instruction ! Awesome video !

  • @andreymetko3320
    @andreymetko3320 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting, thank you! Hello from Russia!

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      Thank you very much Andrey . Garaso Kind regards Filip Ponseele

  • @davidebkct
    @davidebkct 3 роки тому +1

    I had the pleasure to met Filip in Stia (italy) years ago! What a wonderful person he is!

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      Ciao Davide, spero tuto bene . Piacere Filip Ponseele

    • @davidebkct
      @davidebkct 3 роки тому +1

      @@filipponseele7346 Tutto benissimo, ci rivediamo presto a Stia! 👍👍

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidebkct Dio volete Mi manca Stia

  • @LinusGustafsson
    @LinusGustafsson 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, what a treat, thank you both!

  • @TheIrishAmish
    @TheIrishAmish 3 роки тому

    Smashing good stuff gentlemen!

  • @anthonyhendrikx6175
    @anthonyhendrikx6175 3 роки тому

    A master of the craft !!

  • @DulishusWaffle
    @DulishusWaffle 3 роки тому

    Wonderful. Thank you for your videos!

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. 3 роки тому

    Joey great video love these videos

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 3 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed your video so I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe 3 роки тому

    Lovely work!!!

  • @fredericmartin8758
    @fredericmartin8758 3 роки тому +1

    C'est mon métier et je vous remercie car c'est clairement une excellente technique.
    La prochaine soudure en bout j'essaye comme ça.
    Merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo.

  • @russellsmith3825
    @russellsmith3825 3 роки тому +6

    It would be interesting to examine the weld with x-ray or ultrasonic to see if there were any voids in the middle of the joint when finished

  • @tructieptinvui1248
    @tructieptinvui1248 3 роки тому

    Very good. Well done, see you guys

  • @drason69
    @drason69 3 роки тому

    This is awesome!! Very cool Sir 👍

  • @markspc1
    @markspc1 3 роки тому

    Beyond awesome !

  • @lArtisanBrasseur
    @lArtisanBrasseur 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Vraiment un beau vidéo ça!

  • @patriciusvunkempen102
    @patriciusvunkempen102 3 роки тому +1

    excellent technique i will try especialy with quartz sand

  • @juliocesarruiz3368
    @juliocesarruiz3368 3 роки тому

    Excellent job 🙏👍🇲🇽

  • @herbievanbeveren1314
    @herbievanbeveren1314 Рік тому +2

    Very Nice!!

  • @MSArts11134
    @MSArts11134 3 роки тому +1

    Nice work sir

  • @antoner1386
    @antoner1386 3 роки тому +4

    Ah yes... The old "scissor weld". One of my favorite

    • @BrookieCooki84
      @BrookieCooki84 3 роки тому +2

      This is the comment I was looking for. Lol.

    • @mattp6355
      @mattp6355 3 роки тому +1

      The weld lesbians made popular

  • @tinmanx2222
    @tinmanx2222 3 роки тому

    Great hammer control.

  • @hvforge9147
    @hvforge9147 3 роки тому

    Great stuff.

  • @ademdogan7213
    @ademdogan7213 3 роки тому +2

    Fier d'avoir un compatriote de cette classe.

  • @andrejohnson6731
    @andrejohnson6731 3 роки тому +5

    That double cleft looks tricky. So informative! I appreciate the shout out from Filip. But we are not Québéquiens, rather Québécois 🤓

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +4

      Mes excuses.Je ferai mieux la prochaine fois

    • @andrejohnson6731
      @andrejohnson6731 3 роки тому +3

      Filip Ponseele merveilleuse démonstration de vos talents de forgeron, Mr Ponseele. Mille merci 😊

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +3

      @@andrejohnson6731 De rien Toujours le bien venue chez moi

  • @patrickhance7211
    @patrickhance7211 3 роки тому

    Nice 👌 da's nogal ne krak de Filip.mooi gefilmd Joey ⚒️🔥⚒️

  • @dozer1642
    @dozer1642 3 роки тому

    That anvil is amazing.

  • @absmith666
    @absmith666 3 роки тому

    Great video thanks. Joey, would you consider that joint as strong as modern forms of welding?

  • @tac0ninja76
    @tac0ninja76 3 роки тому

    The next sand bender! Flying sand.

  • @erniebeswick7675
    @erniebeswick7675 3 роки тому

    I could watch flip all day

  • @gilauth6791
    @gilauth6791 3 роки тому +1

    Very Very GOOD The technique The artisans The camera work.What a team .Soon you'll received I am convinced some reconnaissance for your remarkable contribution in propagating vanishing human knowledge .Not to mention your multicultural dimension English Dutch or Flemish?¿? French Italian way to go .
    Oprecht Bedankt Tot Ziens
    du Québec

  • @bagheadbaby
    @bagheadbaby 3 роки тому

    Verry nice!

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge 3 роки тому

    I saw your thumbnail, and had to think for a second

  • @catherineasselin7986
    @catherineasselin7986 3 роки тому

    Meci beaucoup pour ses vidéos !!

  • @alakererani6524
    @alakererani6524 3 роки тому +4

    i was curious if there was a specific purpose or reason for the various welds, applications and such. also what would be good reading material for finding more info? love these videos

  • @ThePsychodad69
    @ThePsychodad69 3 роки тому

    Did u do a flex test?
    Would it work over length?
    Thinking about packing or dropping some stuff out on a piece of land, this could save a bunch.

  • @chrisosh9574
    @chrisosh9574 3 роки тому +2

    I am guessing this weld gives twice the surface contact area of a normal scarf weld so that in theory it should be stronger and have less chance of a fail.
    It's great that you both speak such good English

  • @Uncle_Matt_
    @Uncle_Matt_ 3 роки тому +7

    I’m calling this the scissor weld

  • @dave_in_florida
    @dave_in_florida 3 роки тому +1

    wunderbar

  • @tucsonmclean5138
    @tucsonmclean5138 3 роки тому

    To be honest...I never fast forward this video..... It was a joy watching u work....forge welding is not something I've seen up close you made it look easy....it's to bad my country don't promote these skills... would have love to learn this from some one...... forging..or blacksmithing..or whatever it's called

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 роки тому +1

    I'd like to see the smithy at the technical school where he teaches.
    I wonder if the container labeled Sable (french for sand) was an old fire bucket.

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      No it's from an old kitchenset with soap, soda and sand , to clean pots and pans

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      the school i teached at has gasfires from Angele. Different aproch of forging

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 3 роки тому

    So, thats the function of the mouse hole, holds tallow for greasing punches! That genius, the old fellas were pretty clever!

    • @TechnicusJoe
      @TechnicusJoe  3 роки тому +1

      No. It's a handling or "porter hole" in British English. It from when the anvil was forged, moving it about with bars, since its too big to use any type of tongs.
      The hole can be used to put grease, though that is not its original function.

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      It was the blacksmith from the village of Poesele near Aalter who put his grease there.His name was Adiel Afschrift, a fine craftsman

    • @paulorchard7960
      @paulorchard7960 3 роки тому

      Ok, mystery solved, I have one mouse hole, small though, about 65 kg, my bigger anvil does not and I know without any doubt it is cast steel! Thats why I was curious! Smart idea to use it for grease, as long as the anvil is not too close to the forge. Thankyou both for clearing that up, I’m loving these traditional welding videos, very interesting and expanding my knowledge!

  • @MrRick693
    @MrRick693 3 роки тому

    My golfers elbow, tennis elbow in the other, carpal tunnel in both hands, and my arthritis is saying fuck this. My job is hard enough. Just watching this makes me hurt lol

  • @thomasbroking7943
    @thomasbroking7943 3 роки тому

    Love watching these forging videos. I hope one day to get a chance to make something. I see you throwing the sand into the fire, would it be any good to have sand on top ov the table you pound on?? I think you could keep pounding it and all the sand will be on the hot spot. Great video

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      I think you mis the purpose of using sand. It's put on when the metal is nearly melting to protect it from oxygen and to make the metal flowing when melting Kind regards

    • @thomasbroking7943
      @thomasbroking7943 3 роки тому

      @@filipponseele7346 i have no idea at all. Thanks

  • @kabalankaman8770
    @kabalankaman8770 3 роки тому

    sir you a lot of tongs any kind and really lov it to see oh yeaaaaahhhh

  • @cojones8518
    @cojones8518 3 роки тому +2

    Nice weld, but wouldn't it be easier to fit up and less chance of voids if the insides of the "mouths" were beveled? IE cut with a blunt(ish)hardy.

  • @AlphaNerd132
    @AlphaNerd132 3 роки тому

    Wouldn't this method trap air in the center of it? or is the whole idea to get both Vs to bottom out on each other?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      the gap insures tight fitting and surfacewelding around the bar. No air involved

  • @wizzlefits
    @wizzlefits 3 роки тому

    I bet using different steels & several types of welds on a small scale, would make for an interesting "damascus".

  • @Fruckert
    @Fruckert 3 роки тому

    Anvil grease?

  • @Theodinsson
    @Theodinsson 3 роки тому

    Are there any particular proportions to respect for the upsetting or is this something that can just be estimated?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      Once you have mastered blacksmithwelding you can upset less material, if not upset enough so not to be sorry when you fail and lost to much metal

    • @Theodinsson
      @Theodinsson 3 роки тому

      @@filipponseele7346 thank you Filip!

  • @20mcarroll02
    @20mcarroll02 3 роки тому

    Man I would love to go apprentice under him

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 3 роки тому

    No wonder we invented oxyacytlene and arc welding. That was a lot of work and took a long time

    • @dustin1203
      @dustin1203 3 роки тому

      ...oxy, welding, and beer. Myself, I think Joey would have made quicker work of it.

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      Took to long?????

  • @scruffy6151
    @scruffy6151 3 роки тому

    👍👍

  • @1873Winchester
    @1873Winchester 3 роки тому

    I do that too, say centimeters when I mean millimeters

  • @rich2583
    @rich2583 3 роки тому

    What would these welds be used for?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      This shape makes a bigger weldingsurface and so a stronger welding. Used in churches to connect arches with wallanchors. Wrought iron improved with forging and welding

  • @nathanaelwendel883
    @nathanaelwendel883 3 роки тому

    He looks like someone wearing a spy disguise

  • @erikcourtney1834
    @erikcourtney1834 3 роки тому +1

    How long has he been smithing. It has definitely been a long time. He’s good and fast

  • @oldtrio1
    @oldtrio1 3 роки тому

    forge welding

  • @dyingwish914
    @dyingwish914 3 роки тому

    Beautiful work but is the point of this weld

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      More surface so a stronger weld(for wallanchoring)

  • @courtneykachur9487
    @courtneykachur9487 3 роки тому

    What is the “chemical makeup” of the flakes that fly off like skin when you hit it yellow hot? And what do you call that stuff? Also, is it useful or just trash?

    • @craigslitzer4857
      @craigslitzer4857 3 роки тому

      I dunno what the chemical makeup is, but I think most people call that "scale"

    • @andrewkirkham3452
      @andrewkirkham3452 3 роки тому +1

      Craig Slitzer it’s ferric oxide - fe2o3

    • @andrewkirkham3452
      @andrewkirkham3452 3 роки тому +1

      As for uses, it’s can be used for glazing pottery, and also as an oxidiser

  • @jlszesny2471
    @jlszesny2471 3 роки тому +1

    I've never been able to weld low carbon steel to low carbon steel without sparking heat.
    and people said thats just how it works with low carbon to low carbon welds.
    buuuut, you're constantly welding stuff without sparking heat...
    is there a secret or sweet spot before it begins to spark?
    cause I've tried to find it but I couldn't even get a single tack weld without some sparks coming off it...

    • @veteranironoutdoors8320
      @veteranironoutdoors8320 3 роки тому +4

      Sounds like you are bringing your pieces up to heat too quickly. The outside gets hot but the core never reaches welding temperature. So when you pull your piece out of the fire the core saps the heat and keeps you from welding at all but a sparkling heat

    • @alex0dell592
      @alex0dell592 3 роки тому +2

      I’ve found that sparking heat is too high.what I watch for is when the steel begins to look wet and when it is indistinguishable from the coals. The best welds in mild steel are at that heat. I also usually do two welding heats and sometimes three. Flux at an orange to yellow helps.

    • @jlszesny2471
      @jlszesny2471 3 роки тому

      @@veteranironoutdoors8320 so far I thought I had brought the pieces up to heat slowly enough..maybe not
      I'll try to be very slow and even next time.

    • @jlszesny2471
      @jlszesny2471 3 роки тому

      @@alex0dell592 im using charcoal and I usually have the steel completely covered so im going mostly blind by feel and experience.
      but I'll try to see if I can bring it up to heat while leaving a small window for me to look at the steel surface.
      thx

  • @murataflytunov223
    @murataflytunov223 3 роки тому

    Как производится сварка в горне, чем защищается зона контакта?

  • @pianochannel100
    @pianochannel100 3 роки тому

    The sound when you're splitting the bars with the chisel is such a sharp bang. You must have to smack fairly hard?

  • @ronthacker211
    @ronthacker211 3 роки тому

    Don't see why there would not be a void in the center?!?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      Weldingheat makes the inside melt aswell so no void

  • @ztheblacksmith
    @ztheblacksmith 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, that anvil rings like a bell hope y’all were wearing ear protection!

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      I added a magnet today so wait for the next time to HEAR the difference

    • @ztheblacksmith
      @ztheblacksmith 3 роки тому +1

      Filip Ponseele 👍

  • @grigorijneskaju8029
    @grigorijneskaju8029 3 роки тому

    Почему это у меня в рекомендациях?

  • @juanvenegasgallegos7145
    @juanvenegasgallegos7145 3 роки тому

    Les presento a Einstein en un taller de forja

  • @clarkstevens2711
    @clarkstevens2711 3 роки тому

    That was really cool to see but on your next videos it would be nice if you turn the sound down with your hammering it is hurting my ears so I did it on my end but I could not hear you speak

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому

      hello i installed a magnet so that should solve that problem.Thank you for your intrest. Kind regards

  • @michaeltuckerman6983
    @michaeltuckerman6983 3 роки тому

    Really enjoyed the video just had to turn my volume down the reign of that Anvil is just too annoying

  • @tarachandkhobragade6097
    @tarachandkhobragade6097 3 роки тому

    July under by keep on is

  • @piessevauxmathias3495
    @piessevauxmathias3495 3 роки тому

    kunnen we zijn smidse bezoeken ? Je parle anglais et français mais mon flamand n'est pas très bon :/

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +2

      C'est pas grave on vous garde quand meme. Toujours le bien venue chez moi

    • @piessevauxmathias3495
      @piessevauxmathias3495 3 роки тому

      @@filipponseele7346 je viendrai avec plaisir dans ce cas ! Ou peut on vous trouver ?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 роки тому +1

      Le village de Knesselare près de Aalter

  • @manin10
    @manin10 3 роки тому

    Benny Hill does Blacksmithing!😁

  • @satan4409
    @satan4409 3 роки тому

    It’s like two girl’s scissoring

  • @nickhale117
    @nickhale117 3 роки тому +1

    @2:28 before you wreck yourself

  • @hujiko44745278184
    @hujiko44745278184 3 роки тому +1

    poggers

  • @DV-ld8gp
    @DV-ld8gp 3 роки тому

    It’s cool and everything but it’s all so extra.

  • @Sassenhaim
    @Sassenhaim 3 роки тому

    Sounds English is dutch🤣😂

  • @undakovabrotha
    @undakovabrotha 3 роки тому

    “It’s like two snakes trying to rat one another” I thought of 69😏