Thank you for showing us all on UA-cam the proper way of Cleft welding steel. You are a Master blacksmith, second to none !!!! Keep on showing us more Sir. Good day and stay virus free too. VF
That was really cool. I love watching people who know how to teach, you gain so much more knowledge because they know how to give you the information that really matters. Would he be willing to be a regular on your channel? You guy's are seriously good at blacksmithing 👍👍👍👍👍
I’ve found it easier to do a cleft weld in the fire. Align the pieces how you want them and when it’s up to the proper temperature hammer the end of the male cleft bar into the female cleft, and that tacks them well enough to withdraw as one unit from the fire and finish welding on the anvil. I don’t know if that would work on heavy bars though. I suppose you could repeat driving the male cleft into the female cleft a second time at welding heat to really get them stuck for a heavier bar.
Interesting process and explains how a forged eye I have was done. The shaft was split, the eye formed and end of eye inserted back into the bar and welded. The bar is mild steel and it makes a beautiful eye. Thank you.
Wow. Herr Ponseele ist ein toller Lehrmeister. Die Schweißnaht ist fast nicht sichtbar. Danke dass du das mit uns teilst. Ich bin echt froh, dass du keine Fahrräder baust😁. Das #Dropforging wird langsam international. Wenn das bei uns passiert, sagt man es war zu schwer, aber niemals zu heiß für den Schmied. I'll Catch you next time, for shure. Gruß aus Bavaria.👍
Looks like serious competition for you, Joey! Would like a demonstration of a tri-joint (for a trivet). Don't know if it's correct, but the way I do it is to start with one piece upset slightly in the center, then bent to 120°. Then bend the second piece into a stubby 'j' to fit around the 120° bend. The second piece needs to start out a bit longer than the first piece before preparing it. Or is it better practice to bend the first piece into a 360° with a gap between the long ends (like a tuning fork)?
Silly question: How precise do the two ends have to be in relation to each other? Better way of asking: how sloppy can the parts be and still weld without getting too mad at it?
Thank you so very much. First time I've had this method described step-by-step. At what point did you apply the flux? New to the forge, still learning.
Thank you! For me (still a bloody beginner) this is a brilliant lesson. Clear proper English, calm, all in its order - far better than any school lesson in a today`s class room!
His anvil has more of a bell ring to it... It is the first pleasant sounding bell-style ring I have ever enjoyed hearing. Most other bell style rings sound terrible. His is attractive. If in a town, in ancient times, this ring would likely attract business
Add a few fluxes and trace elements to that quartz sand and bring it to about 2650 Fahrenheit and you get quartz crystal chemistry glass for high end chemist experiment no surprise it works as a flux for forge welding.
Ive never used wrought iron but does the fact the the wedge part developed a bit of "fish mouth" affect the weld here? With steel, you risk collecting a bit of scale here and weakening the weld, especially in a gas forge..
the quartzsand is applied when the iron bars surface appears to look like sweathing. It melt around it and protect hte surface from dirt and oxigen. The prpre weldingtemp. looks like ceamy fresh milk'yellowisch)
I am a creature of logic. Your videos with all the tech specs and speaking on the mechanics of what's happening is great. I learn so much from your vids. Thank you sir.
OK so I like the theory better than a scarf weld one. Yet at the end, it looked as if you could see cold shuts. Still, I doubt that the weld will ever fall apart. It lookes similar to how hard steel is wedged into an axe bit and that works.
the colds shuts are cameraerrors(there waren't any not with old stock iron). you're right about the type of welds. common practice in all fields of blacksmithing
@@TechnicusJoe sorry Joey, maybe what I see at 13:04 and 14:46 are lines or othet artifacts, but to my untrained eye they look like cold shuts. Remember I am only a beginner. I am still trying to figure out what works. Scarf welds seem complicated. This method appears easier to understand. You guys have been blacksmithing a long time. I mostly get cold shuts when I am knocking the head off a railroad spike. Or at least I think they are cold shuts. How can I tell for sure?
@@markmoreno7295 hello, practice daily on small stock,upset enough so you have material enough for 2 or 3 weldingheats to forge down to your startingmeasure of the bars you use. Succes
Joey If possible I would like to see you do something really cool as a weld. I'm not sure what you would call this weld. But I'll try to explain what I mean. It's a flanged rod that is forged welded onto a thick flat plate. I liked your anchor demo, that was awesome. The way you added iron to the main shaft to build up your weld gave me this crazy idea. I've tried my best in making a divot and fullering the sides. Either it's not hot enough or I move to much material and the weld won't take. If you could, or would like to work into your busy shop time I'd be greatly appreciative. Thank you for doing what you do for all of us amitures out here. Bruce
Bruce, could you email me a drawing of the weld you are trying to do? Maybe I can take a video of doing that weld, if it is a doable weld. Email: TechnicusJoe @ Gmail. com
Filip Ponseele : I'm guessing by the fact you did not answer the question, either you don't have a good answer, or it must be a secret, only known by "black smiths". Maybe you're just a snob, and because I'm not a "black smith" I don't have any right to an opinion, let alone, asking a lay question. Either way you are rude. Hope you day is better tomorrow.✌️👌
@@grumpyg9350 It's difficult explaining something about this craft if you can't put it in to practicxe. But i'll try. The touching of the anvil is all about keeping your rhytm and to give your underarm some rest,and also to look how your piece is coming in shape. . No secret and now Snob(55 years old,39 years of forging) Have a fine week Gut woch
congrat for the video Joey !!! very nice !!! i never forget when i visit Filip few years ago and he teach me forge welding . beautiful moment in is shop .
I wonder if they quench iron in human blood to give it extra power where this guy is from. Those hammers look very old. They could have been used in battle. Each life they took will increase the quality of the end product. Weapons that are forged with at least a 3 or 4 soul hammer and quenched in fresh blood will thirst for another taste and maintain a very sharp edge, almost like there is a force preparing it for the next feasting. Well done sir.
It's funny to me how what used to be a working mans skill is now a hobby for rich people. Either that, or there is some kind of blacksmith market demand I never heard of that akes them tons of money, as they all seem to have power hammers.
Was that a power hammer on Joey van der Steeg's channel?!
Never thought I'd see the day.
Jokes aside this is pretty cool.
Haha, in fact it's glowing hot!
That's not a power hammer. That's Quint.
Thank you so much for bringing this back!
"There's nothing wrong with a little disaster." I believe that's my new life motto.
Do not overdo it,
Lol
What a treat! I was pleased to see this video with my morning coffee, thank you and Filip.
Thank you, Stan!
Thanks JOEY for showing that there is more than one way to forge weld .
and Filip is a true gentleman so thank you Filip for the demo .cheers.
Thanks, Doug!
Thank you Mister Fathers
Thank you for showing us all on UA-cam the proper way of Cleft welding steel. You are a Master blacksmith, second to none !!!! Keep on showing us more Sir. Good day and stay virus free too. VF
Thank you and likewise for you
Awsome work as ever Filip, thanks for the two years, teaching me to forge, it was an fantastic experience.
Hello Paul thanks mate
Wow. That was really impressing. I'm hoping, one day, I will have those skills myself and be able to pass it to future generations.
So much experience, so much knowledge. Thank you for sharing all the little details of this trade!
Cheers!
Made it look easy. That's one fine looking anvil.
That was really cool. I love watching people who know how to teach, you gain so much more knowledge because they know how to give you the information that really matters. Would he be willing to be a regular on your channel? You guy's are seriously good at blacksmithing 👍👍👍👍👍
I’ve found it easier to do a cleft weld in the fire. Align the pieces how you want them and when it’s up to the proper temperature hammer the end of the male cleft bar into the female cleft, and that tacks them well enough to withdraw as one unit from the fire and finish welding on the anvil. I don’t know if that would work on heavy bars though. I suppose you could repeat driving the male cleft into the female cleft a second time at welding heat to really get them stuck for a heavier bar.
We kept the bars short inorder to demonstrate on the anvil. But bigger stock we do as you say directly in the fire Kind regards Filip
Filip Ponseele well that’s good to know that’s how you do it with bigger stock! Thank you!
Male and female lol
Antonprojects boy are you gonna be in for a giggle when you find out about pipe fittings.
@@veteranironoutdoors8320 nipples and sockets, it doesn't get much dirtier than that when it comes to shop talk and let's not get started on files.lol
That was a freakin beautiful thing to watch ! you sir have mad skills !!!
Thank you ! Great video, fantastic instructor!! Amazing channel!
Wow. I would love to spend a day or two with a Smith like that. Your very lucky Joey Learn from the best. Awesome video. Thank you .... Paul 🔥⚒👍
It was a fantastic time at Filip's forge!
Interesting process and explains how a forged eye I have was done. The shaft was split, the eye formed and end of eye inserted back into the bar and welded. The bar is mild steel and it makes a beautiful eye. Thank you.
Great craftsman. Awesome video. Thank you !
Wow that is a gorgeous forge weld
Wow. Herr Ponseele ist ein toller Lehrmeister. Die Schweißnaht ist fast nicht sichtbar. Danke dass du das mit uns teilst. Ich bin echt froh, dass du keine Fahrräder baust😁. Das #Dropforging wird langsam international. Wenn das bei uns passiert, sagt man es war zu schwer, aber niemals zu heiß für den Schmied. I'll Catch you next time, for shure. Gruß aus Bavaria.👍
We have a simular saying in Belgium. Thank you
The demonstration was fun to watch but always teaches me
Great videos gentleman
You made it look easy! Great teaching about the cold manuverig rehearsal. Grazie Maestro
Grazie a te lontano in Italia. Sempre benvenuto a casa mia.
Very interesting video, I would like to see more of those welds in the list. Thanks for this.
Thank you!
The most diffcult weld with the two bars and 2 triangles will be uploaded in due time!
@@TechnicusJoe Yeah, the four piece weld looks difficult to keep everything in place until you have stuck it together.
How well does this method work on mild steel?
Loved this tutorial!
It's the same but harder and easier with BORAX. Succes
That was a pleasure to watch, thankyou both.
Our pleasure
Looks like serious competition for you, Joey! Would like a demonstration of a tri-joint (for a trivet). Don't know if it's correct, but the way I do it is to start with one piece upset slightly in the center, then bent to 120°. Then bend the second piece into a stubby 'j' to fit around the 120° bend. The second piece needs to start out a bit longer than the first piece before preparing it. Or is it better practice to bend the first piece into a 360° with a gap between the long ends (like a tuning fork)?
Joey in belgie. Daarmee dat da hier zo regent! 😁 nice work as always and learned something new.
Ja ik heb de regen van Nederland meegenomen! :P
Je sais pas ce que tu utilises comme caméra mais tes images et tes vidéos sont sublimes merci.
Oh yeah !!!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Very informative.
Thank you!
That is nice.
Silly question: How precise do the two ends have to be in relation to each other?
Better way of asking: how sloppy can the parts be and still weld without getting too mad at it?
What make is the power hammer?
A 63 kg DEMOOR. early 1960. a fine hammer. Belgian quality
Out of curiosity- why was the receiving end thinned out while drawing the bar and then its bulk increased by upsetting, before the V cut?
Very Nice. You don't see any colour changes at the so that means a perfect weld? Is that how you judge the quality of the weld?
Very nice!
Interesting video I like the Enfield firing pin pointer
Is that realy from an Enfield gun?? i found it years ago at a scrapyard. Good quality steel
What are the advantages of this weld?
Because it's rather a lot of work.
Great video btw :)
It's stronger because there is more weldingsurface.Used for wall ankers and spindleaxes for weavinglooms
@@filipponseele7346
Thanks:)
Very educational video.
Beautiful
very nice video
This was wonderful to watch. Would you ever attempt to do this weld in mild steel? Is it possible?
Yes, I have done it in mild steel before. You have to bring down the welding heat a little as the modern mild steel is not the same as wrought iron.
Great. Just great.
Thank you so very much. First time I've had this method described step-by-step. At what point did you apply the flux? New to the forge, still learning.
We used sand as a flux.Sprinkle it when in fire nearly meltingpoint(sweeting like )
Can cast iron and steel be forge welded together?
what's the point of that given that one can arc weld it these days?
To keep the tradition alive and for correct restaurationwork
👍
oh nice, he's using a hofi hammer :D
It's a hammer forged by Julien Puy
@@TechnicusJoei dont mean the french pattern hammer for the light work.
@@riAN1337 I know. The hammer you mean has been made by Julien Puy.
@@TechnicusJoe ah ok, sorry joey, looked like a hofi to me.
too much talking...
Just showing what you do is not enough. You need to explain. Thank you
Thank you! For me (still a bloody beginner) this is a brilliant lesson. Clear proper English, calm, all in its order - far better than any school lesson in a today`s class room!
This guy has a great speaking voice! I could listen to him speak all day
You know, with these kinda forge welds... That scene in lotr where the elves are reforging anduril doesn't look QUITE so stupid.
well... it IS still pretty stupid, it is still a recipe for disaster
@@yyeetmax2849 But "There's nothing wrong with a little disaster".......
I remember that scene.
they just laid the sword pieces side by side,
without overlapping and hammered from the top.
and the hammer technique, uffa XD
Nice video, very instructive. A Canadian watching from Québec. :)
Merci!
His anvil has more of a bell ring to it... It is the first pleasant sounding bell-style ring I have ever enjoyed hearing. Most other bell style rings sound terrible. His is attractive. If in a town, in ancient times, this ring would likely attract business
Very informative video. Great to watch a master at work
Add a few fluxes and trace elements to that quartz sand and bring it to about 2650 Fahrenheit and you get quartz crystal chemistry glass for high end chemist experiment no surprise it works as a flux for forge welding.
Fantastic accent when speaking English!!
Thanks for sharing. Looks great nice work.
Filip is awesome. I hope he / you make more videos featuring him
Very good teaching!!
Another great video, Joe. Thank you for sharing your visit with this wonderful gentleman.
Brilliant work, absolutely amazing job. Thanks for explaining it for us.
Un gran maestro:con el fierro y el martillo
Grazias segnor
Mastersmith👍👍
That piece of advice in 7:55 can be applied to so many things!
Ive never used wrought iron but does the fact the the wedge part developed a bit of "fish mouth" affect the weld here? With steel, you risk collecting a bit of scale here and weakening the weld, especially in a gas forge..
Arg! Now here I am at baby steps wanting to RUN! Always something interesting, Joey. Thank you Joey and Smith Filip.
the qaurts sand this was added after joining points was heated yes ??
the quartzsand is applied when the iron bars surface appears to look like sweathing. It melt around it and protect hte surface from dirt and oxigen. The prpre weldingtemp. looks like ceamy fresh milk'yellowisch)
Really good content! Nicely done. I did not expect to hear "Quebec" in one of your video haha. Cool :)
I am a creature of logic. Your videos with all the tech specs and speaking on the mechanics of what's happening is great. I learn so much from your vids. Thank you sir.
Thank You!
OK so I like the theory better than a scarf weld one. Yet at the end, it looked as if you could see cold shuts. Still, I doubt that the weld will ever fall apart. It lookes similar to how hard steel is wedged into an axe bit and that works.
the colds shuts are cameraerrors(there waren't any not with old stock iron). you're right about the type of welds. common practice in all fields of blacksmithing
What exactly do you see as cold shuts? I don't see any in the video.
@@TechnicusJoe sorry Joey, maybe what I see at 13:04 and 14:46 are lines or othet artifacts, but to my untrained eye they look like cold shuts. Remember I am only a beginner. I am still trying to figure out what works. Scarf welds seem complicated. This method appears easier to understand. You guys have been blacksmithing a long time. I mostly get cold shuts when I am knocking the head off a railroad spike. Or at least I think they are cold shuts. How can I tell for sure?
@@markmoreno7295 hello, practice daily on small stock,upset enough so you have material enough for 2 or 3 weldingheats to forge down to your startingmeasure of the bars you use. Succes
Great demonstration and great video. I'd like to see more of Mr. Ponseele.
I love wrought iron. Would love to see more videos with wrought iron
Very nice
Left handers look so unwieldy and weird when they work and that's coming from a left hander... haha
really Sir?? try looking to this film in a miror and tell me what you think then Kind regards
Wow, something new for me. thank you.
Joey
If possible I would like to see you do something really cool as a weld.
I'm not sure what you would call this weld. But I'll try to explain what I mean.
It's a flanged rod that is forged welded onto a thick flat plate.
I liked your anchor demo, that was awesome.
The way you added iron to the main shaft to build up your weld gave me this crazy idea.
I've tried my best in making a divot and fullering the sides.
Either it's not hot enough or I move to much material and the weld won't take.
If you could, or would like to work into your busy shop time I'd be greatly appreciative.
Thank you for doing what you do for all of us amitures out here.
Bruce
Welds are never COOL they are always HOT(haha)
Bruce, could you email me a drawing of the weld you are trying to do?
Maybe I can take a video of doing that weld, if it is a doable weld.
Email: TechnicusJoe @ Gmail. com
@@TechnicusJoe
Sure,
Why do you strike the anvil with your hammer, so much? I find the sound annoying.🙉
Dear Grumpy, do you forge yourself?
Filip Ponseele : No. Does that make a difference?
@@grumpyg9350 of course it does end of that
Filip Ponseele : I'm guessing by the fact you did not answer the question, either you don't have a good answer, or it must be a secret, only known by "black smiths". Maybe you're just a snob, and because I'm not a "black smith" I don't have any right to an opinion, let alone, asking a lay question. Either way you are rude.
Hope you day is better tomorrow.✌️👌
@@grumpyg9350 It's difficult explaining something about this craft if you can't put it in to practicxe. But i'll try. The touching of the anvil is all about keeping your rhytm and to give your underarm some rest,and also to look how your piece is coming in shape. . No secret and now Snob(55 years old,39 years of forging) Have a fine week Gut woch
Dit was nog eens een leerrijke video knap Joey ⚒️🔥⚒️
Bedankt, Pat!
I want to know how a Belgian picked up a cockney accent.
And apprently forge-welding is a lot like bbq.
Thanks to television and friends in the U.K
What do you mean like bbq?? Dont burn your meat??
This video is a masterpiece! Thanks a lot for the upload.
Thank you!
Outstanding. Do you have more videos to share.
Yes, more will come.
Awesome video guys!
congrat for the video Joey !!! very nice !!! i never forget when i visit Filip few years ago and he teach me forge welding . beautiful moment in is shop .
Bonsoir Julien tout va bien?? tu as vu ton marteau??
@@filipponseele7346 , oui !! il vous va a ravir !!! au plaisir de vous revoir en Belgique ou par cher moi ! vous ete le bien venu .
Merci Julien. Comment va ta petite famille? @@SuperBRUTALdeluxe
@@filipponseele7346 , ça va !! on fait aller au mieux !! tout évolue .
Awsome
Great Video!
Thank you, John!
I wonder if they quench iron in human blood to give it extra power where this guy is from.
Those hammers look very old. They could have been used in battle. Each life they took will increase the quality of the end product. Weapons that are forged with at least a 3 or 4 soul hammer and quenched in fresh blood will thirst for another taste and maintain a very sharp edge, almost like there is a force preparing it for the next feasting. Well done sir.
It's funny to me how what used to be a working mans skill is now a hobby for rich people. Either that, or there is some kind of blacksmith market demand I never heard of that akes them tons of money, as they all seem to have power hammers.
For me personal ' it's been my job for nearly 35 years. NO hobby a well loved job