Audi S3 owner here. I watched the whole video, looks like 315 is the way to go. I am deep down this rabbit hole of sound deadening, watching a guy do his Taco. But it's all the same thing. Sound deadening is oddly fun. So, butyl rubber, foam, then the MLV... Running out of space, I am.
CCF doesn't provide any sound deadening. It is used as a decoupler when used with MLV (mass loaded vinyl). So it's CLD tiles then CCF and lastly MLV. The CLD tiles reduce resonance and vibrations of the vehicle. The CCF prevents MLV vibrating against the vehicle. The MLV is what prevents road noise from entering the vehicle. The MLV is the only of the 3 materials that requires 100% coverage for effectiveness. The other two materials (CLD and CCF) do not 30% to 50% is all that is needed.
Yeh - my OCD won't let me skip any surface, so I'm almost at 100% with closed cell on top. I also stuffed my tailgate with loose closed cell foam which made a huge difference. I'm at the stage of re-installing the interior now. It a huge job but I plan on keeping the car for the duration.
Honestly, I am not concerned about the noise. Im looking more for the insulation properties. Should I still put on the first layer or should I just skip that? If space allows for it, I would also add some wool insulation into the bigger gaps
Definitely a noticeable difference. I’ve been working on adding some sound deadening little by little to help reduce road & wind noise from my Taco and will be moving onto the closed-cell layers soon. Glad to see/hear that this next step improves upon the first layer. Thanks a bunch 👍🏽
I'm starting to build my campervan. Do you have any experience using only the Noico Red only for sound deadening? and do you have any videos showcase by how much it decreases heat?
@@Tacomaholic I'm not sure just how much engine and road noise comes through the ceiling. Our Tacomas have a foam backed cloth covering on it. I'm not sure if the ceiling is necessary. I'm not sure how much wind noise comes through the ceiling either.
@@TacomaholicI have no idea how to remove & reinstall a headliner without destroying it. I've seen it done before by trained experienced professionals that make it look easy though.
Hey man! I'm a huge fan of your channel and have a cool video idea that would be super helpful for us 2nd gen tacoma owners who are thinking about lifting our trucks for the first time. You could make a video going into detail about all the parts you used to achieve your bilstein 5100 3 inch lift and talk about the pros/cons and what you would do differently if you had to do it all over again. Im sure this video would get tons of views and would help out a ton of people as well!
Absolutely, but the sound-deadening and insulation will be better if using the other butyl material too. Not sure on the floor panel yet ... but if I do it will be last.
This is what I’ve been wanting to do for a long while. Especially now that I have a Dog again. It gets pretty damn hott in the Coachella Valley, Palm Springs/The Monument aka Joshua Tree National Park & 29 Palms USMC area. 125-135 F. Is the norm summatime temp. It cost money though and with all the bone money after food, ima outa clams to shell out. No dough, no bread.
For shits and giggles if you had put a double layer of that sound deadner then that noico red I guarantee you your audio would have def sounded different. Bcuz the audio for before and after sounded pretty much the same.. it’s irrelevant to us as to hearing the diff but it’s for you to make sure you do here a difference.. I know I’ve seen a lot of comments where people are deterred from buying the products even after one says” I can tell the difference even if the audio didn’t pick it up” then ive see other videos where people use the digital meters to show the diff in sound . I know from personal experience especially since I sound proof old school rides . New cars are pretty good on being quiet for the most part so it’s up to us that are car enthusiast to make are dream cars sound and look beautiful lol … Good work though a lot don’t understand how much work is put in how many hours.. I was doing my old school everyday but only so many hours at a time bcuz I’m in AZ and right now it’s summer and man it’s hot especially if your in a vehicle putting things in . It took me a better of 11 hours from doing the front all the way to the back twice it sucked but after putting down 2 layers and then the Noico it’s pretty quiet, not to mention and this is where people mess up and or get dissatisfied or disappointed bcuz they thought one thing and it wasn’t up to par, but got to remember do the doors too lol … you do all that then your def gonna cut sound out … Again good job it was a funny video 👍🏼
@@Tacomaholic So your motor doesnt twist. It helps put power down better and makes your engine and truck run and feel more planted. I've noticed it helps off reading and especially when mudding and you want to put your foot down and or rock crawling you dont get that sudden shake. That's just my opinion man, still love the videos tho.
Hey which fire extinguisher do you have in the cab? I had one last year that leaked when it got too hot out, but it was one of those single use can style extinguishers. Not exactly professional grade, but better than nothing I guess.
I've got this one on the back wall molle panel ( amzn.to/2LUD8QU ) and this one under the front of the driver seat ( amzn.to/3eivFHv ). Both stay in the truck year round and haven't had any issues with them leaking.
Several reasons: I'm not running back seats which block a ton of road noise ... and the sound deadening makes the upgraded stereo system sound better too.
I went from driving a 2000 4x4 Quad Cab Dakota to a 2007 Tacoma Prerunner Access Cab back in 2013. First thing I noticed was how loud the Tacoma was comparted to the Dakota - a huge difference. After about month I couldn't take it any more, so I completely gutted the cab. Over a weekend I did a two step process using butyl rubber composite mat (B-Quiet Ultimate) followed up by a noise barrier composite (B-Quiet) VComp. Yes, it was a lot of work, but the sweat was worth the reward that pays off every time I drive my truck. Would I do it again? Yes even at 65, I would do it again.
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Audi S3 owner here. I watched the whole video, looks like 315 is the way to go.
I am deep down this rabbit hole of sound deadening, watching a guy do his Taco. But it's all the same thing.
Sound deadening is oddly fun. So, butyl rubber, foam, then the MLV... Running out of space, I am.
CCF doesn't provide any sound deadening. It is used as a decoupler when used with MLV (mass loaded vinyl). So it's CLD tiles then CCF and lastly MLV. The CLD tiles reduce resonance and vibrations of the vehicle. The CCF prevents MLV vibrating against the vehicle. The MLV is what prevents road noise from entering the vehicle. The MLV is the only of the 3 materials that requires 100% coverage for effectiveness. The other two materials (CLD and CCF) do not 30% to 50% is all that is needed.
In the middle of doing the same to my Land Cruiser. It's a ton of work, but so far the results are awesome.
Awesome! Are you going all out and doing the entire cab? I still need to get to my ceiling and floor.
Yeh - my OCD won't let me skip any surface, so I'm almost at 100% with closed cell on top. I also stuffed my tailgate with loose closed cell foam which made a huge difference. I'm at the stage of re-installing the interior now. It a huge job but I plan on keeping the car for the duration.
How Well is it working insulation wise
Huge improvement as far as blocking road noise is concerned.
I have a 2008 Tacoma and dynomat the entire cabin, made a huge difference.
Will this insulation set up still work if you are using the back seats?
It might fit but you really don't need that insulation if the rear seats are still installed.
@@Tacomaholic good to know. Thank you for your response.
Just the back wall made a huge difference. I may do this to my rig.
Honestly, I am not concerned about the noise. Im looking more for the insulation properties.
Should I still put on the first layer or should I just skip that?
If space allows for it, I would also add some wool insulation into the bigger gaps
That first layer would still help a little but the closed cell foam is better for heat/cold insulation.
Ccf does not cut down road noise. You need mass loaded vinyl, along with CLD
Definitely a noticeable difference. I’ve been working on adding some sound deadening little by little to help reduce road & wind noise from my Taco and will be moving onto the closed-cell layers soon. Glad to see/hear that this next step improves upon the first layer. Thanks a bunch 👍🏽
Great stuff. I used similar in my car and it made a huge difference. Thanks for recommending.
Can’t wait to do this. As of now I have subs behind the seats but really want to try under the seats with a custom box and all noico sound deadening
A subwoofer? Or that looks like a weld it in impervious gun safe! And I thought you had something cool it’s just a speaker☹️
I'm starting to build my campervan. Do you have any experience using only the Noico Red only for sound deadening? and do you have any videos showcase by how much it decreases heat?
No I've only used mine with the other Noico stuff.
Did it on my 2015 Tacoma and it sounds amazing! The headliner I dis with butal however the sound difference is noticeable. Awesome video B!
Thanks Glenn! I'll be pulling the headliner enough.
Would you recommend this for the doors or would the 150 mil be better
It seems like the most important part would be the floorboard, firewall, then the back, wall then doors.
Don't forget the ceiling. I'm just being lazy about tackling that one.
@@Tacomaholic I'm not sure just how much engine and road noise comes through the ceiling. Our Tacomas have a foam backed cloth covering on it. I'm not sure if the ceiling is necessary. I'm not sure how much wind noise comes through the ceiling either.
@@troy3456789 The ceiling will help with wind noise and blocking heat mostly.
@@TacomaholicI have no idea how to remove & reinstall a headliner without destroying it. I've seen it done before by trained experienced professionals that make it look easy though.
@@troy3456789 I need to get mine done soonish so I'll do a vid for it.
Noticeable difference.
Hey man!
I'm a huge fan of your channel and have a cool video idea that would be super helpful for us 2nd gen tacoma owners who are thinking about lifting our trucks for the first time. You could make a video going into detail about all the parts you used to achieve your bilstein 5100 3 inch lift and talk about the pros/cons and what you would do differently if you had to do it all over again. Im sure this video would get tons of views and would help out a ton of people as well!
Thanks for watching Luke!
You did mention ur looking to reduce heat gain especially when you do your headliner? Would be awesome to knock out both of those issues at once.
Oh yeah. Doing the headliner should make a huge difference for both sound-deadening and heat insulation.
Did you tackle the headliner yet?
Not yet but will probably do that in early Spring.
Can i just use this foam and not the metal diamond material? Ill wait for the headlinder video. Plus are you considering the floor panel as well?
Absolutely, but the sound-deadening and insulation will be better if using the other butyl material too. Not sure on the floor panel yet ... but if I do it will be last.
I can't wait for the headliner video. That's the one interior area that I'm not that confident about..
Lol yeah going to be a pain pulling that down.
That subwoofer box sure takes up a lot of gear storage space.
It does, but there's still plenty of room on the interior molle racks and other places for interior storage. Worth it for how amazing it sounds.
@@Tacomaholic That's just me, I don't even turn my radio on.
People explaining what size the bolts are or which socket to use lol.
This is what I’ve been wanting to do for a long while. Especially now that I have a Dog again. It gets pretty damn hott in the Coachella Valley, Palm Springs/The Monument aka Joshua Tree National Park & 29 Palms USMC area. 125-135 F. Is the norm summatime temp. It cost money though and with all the bone money after food, ima outa clams to shell out. No dough, no bread.
For shits and giggles if you had put a double layer of that sound deadner then that noico red I guarantee you your audio would have def sounded different. Bcuz the audio for before and after sounded pretty much the same.. it’s irrelevant to us as to hearing the diff but it’s for you to make sure you do here a difference.. I know I’ve seen a lot of comments where people are deterred from buying the products even after one says” I can tell the difference even if the audio didn’t pick it up” then ive see other videos where people use the digital meters to show the diff in sound . I know from personal experience especially since I sound proof old school rides . New cars are pretty good on being quiet for the most part so it’s up to us that are car enthusiast to make are dream cars sound and look beautiful lol … Good work though a lot don’t understand how much work is put in how many hours.. I was doing my old school everyday but only so many hours at a time bcuz I’m in AZ and right now it’s summer and man it’s hot especially if your in a vehicle putting things in . It took me a better of 11 hours from doing the front all the way to the back twice it sucked but after putting down 2 layers and then the Noico it’s pretty quiet, not to mention and this is where people mess up and or get dissatisfied or disappointed bcuz they thought one thing and it wasn’t up to par, but got to remember do the doors too lol … you do all that then your def gonna cut sound out … Again good job it was a funny video 👍🏼
Yeah the audio on the video doesn't really give an accurate in person representation.
It's all shits and giggles...until someone giggles and shits
😂
i night the 3 layer stuff from NVX. as far as i know, it's the least expensive triple layer stuff u can get. $79 for 20 sq ft
Thanks. I have 2 boxes arriving tomorrow!
Would be great, but I do not have the kinda patients it would take to do that. Thanks.
When are you gonna do motor mounts on your tacoma bro
What do I need to do to the motor mounts?
@@Tacomaholic
So your motor doesnt twist. It helps put power down better and makes your engine and truck run and feel more planted. I've noticed it helps off reading and especially when mudding and you want to put your foot down and or rock crawling you dont get that sudden shake. That's just my opinion man, still love the videos tho.
Hey which fire extinguisher do you have in the cab? I had one last year that leaked when it got too hot out, but it was one of those single use can style extinguishers. Not exactly professional grade, but better than nothing I guess.
I've got this one on the back wall molle panel ( amzn.to/2LUD8QU ) and this one under the front of the driver seat ( amzn.to/3eivFHv ). Both stay in the truck year round and haven't had any issues with them leaking.
@@Tacomaholic Thanks man!
Does it stink?
No smell at all
REALLY?? Why waste all that time? The car can't be that noisy to begin with. Are you driving a baby in the car? Just seems like a lot of work.
Several reasons: I'm not running back seats which block a ton of road noise ... and the sound deadening makes the upgraded stereo system sound better too.
I went from driving a 2000 4x4 Quad Cab Dakota to a 2007 Tacoma Prerunner Access Cab back in 2013. First thing I noticed was how loud the Tacoma was comparted to the Dakota - a huge difference. After about month I couldn't take it any more, so I completely gutted the cab. Over a weekend I did a two step process using butyl rubber composite mat (B-Quiet Ultimate) followed up by a noise barrier composite (B-Quiet) VComp. Yes, it was a lot of work, but the sweat was worth the reward that pays off every time I drive my truck. Would I do it again? Yes even at 65, I would do it again.