@@AidanMillward Max is another good guy. Greg was the nexus for the drivers off the track and the vibe was great. The boys, even Montoya, all hung out. but on track they competed hard. Everyone loved Greg.
@@AidanMillward If I remember correctly that it was indeed Max Papis who seemed the most saddened by the terrible fate that met Greg Moore that day at Fontana California. This memory was from an interview with Max at Greg's funeral. Maybe you could do an episode of your excellent "What If" series with Greg Moore as the subject. PS; I absolutely Loved the video with Jimmy Clark as the subject in your "What If" series.
@@optionrush5050 Very true, but Greg was an absolutely fearless Lion who just couldn't sit Fontana out. His passing shocked and saddened the racing world in 1999.
For people who don’t know: 1999 was the nadir of Roger Penske’s organization in open-wheel racing. Under Mercedes-Benz management, the bulk of Ilmor’s resources were going toward the Formula 1 program with McLaren, and their CART engine was falling behind in development. Meanwhile, Penske’s chassis program was getting progressively worse, to the point where the team gave up on their own cars in mid-season in favor of buying some Lolas. Keep in mind that Lola was in such financial trouble after their failed attempt at F1 in 1997 that Carl Haas, who controlled Lola’s distribution business, refused to field their cars for his own team. Penske spent most of the year fielding only one car for Al Unser Jr., whose descent into alcoholism was becoming apparent by then. At Laguna Seca, they entered a second car for Gonzalo Rodriguez, who was killed in a crash caused by a stuck throttle at the Corkscrew. It was already announced that Penske would field Reynard-Hondas for Gil de Ferran and Greg Moore in 2000; then Moore, too, was killed at the season finale in Fontana.
Thanks for the details on this. Undoubtedly a low point for Penske racing. Amazing they collected themselves and came into Indycar so strong a few years later.
@@GPLaps Not even a couple of years: de Ferran won the CART championship the very next season, but that might not be the most remarkable part of the turnaround. Lola was as good as dead in 1998: they had one customer in CART (who was at the back of the grid every race) and no money to put into chassis development. With the infusion of cash and technical support from Penske (who had just managed to design a car that was completely undriveable, mind you), Lola was back to building race-winning chassis in 2000...and Penske didn’t even race Lolas in 2000. What happened at Penske in the late ‘90s is completely inexplicable, and I still haven’t seen an account of those couple of years that gets to the heart of it.
Honestly, Sim Racing has the potential to be a fantastic tool in automotive and motorsport documentaries, especially for cars whose real-world footage is either limited or riddled with licensing red tape.
Its honestly amazing the impact that Greg Moore had on people. It speaks volumes to his legacy that even so many years after his passing the mere sight of that forsythe Indycar gets fans of a certain age waxing nostalgic. Maybe it was the red gloves, or the fact that the commentary team kept pushing him as a young future champion, or even just that he wore glasses like me, but he was 10 year old me's favorite driver. I learned a hard lesson that year, but I definitely still remember Greg Moore, and im glad that seemingly so many others do to.
He was young, marketable and full to the brim with talent on ovals and road courses... A lot of people saw him going to F1 including Penske, who signed him up for the next season. Sadly he never got the chance to show what he could do in the very best of equipment. Not that the Player's team didn't have some top notch stuff of their own....
I remember my old man telling me when I was younger that he didn't like Indycar because "it was borderline suicidal". Today I understand what he meant but I'll be damned if it doesn't make some of the most intense racing in the world! 🏎️
rally and motorcycle racing was worse . but there is something about the intense speeds that grabs peoples attention . today there hasnt been an oval fatal crash in 10 years
@@AlistairMaxwell77 Justin Wilson died 2015 and Vegas ˋ11 isn’t just 10 years ago. And in the last few years a hand full of drivers came close. Dixon was just a few inches away from crushing his head.
I'm watching CART races at the moment, since the official site uploads them regularly. I was an avid F1 fan at the time but still would stay up late (although in school) and watch the races in Eurosport. Some of the best racing ever. Am i right to say that we want a series out of this? No, we NEED a complete series!
I think the last couple of seasons in CART, with the changes that they made to the car, both aero and push to pass button, made for some of the best open wheel racing on the planet. It didn't have the history, culture, and famous road circuits of F1, but it had made changes to facilitate more passes in the braking zone, which ironically F1 adapted years later. I loved CART and like many, mourned its merger with IRL, even though I understood the economics.
2 comments 1- Spotter for AC, look for crew chief add-on. 2- look for the mod CART Extreme for Automobilista. Graphics aren't as good as Assetto Corsa, but AI is better and you can have rolling starts. AC AI is just meh...
All you need is the ABC crew getting excited over that duel. I can hear Parker Johnstone explaining aero push already and Paul Page going whoa. Good times and yes, they did have spotters from 95 onwards, but was explained in the 95 New Hampshire broadcast at that time, they weren't like NASCAR spoters. By 2000 they were more like NASCAR spotters in that they would tel drivers if they were clear or if there was a car down there. In 99/200 ABC had a delay on the radio broadcasts (thanks JPM in part?) which led to the imortal quote of: Due to the...eloquence of the CART drivers. Read: JPM's at it again guys, gotta put adelay on this.
@@armorgeddon Not really, the series and networks had to in order to comply with FCC regulations so they could avoid getting ABC/ESPN slapped with fines for what the FCC thought at the time ws obscenities. CART's hands were tied on that front, but scanners were very, very much uncensored. And doing some research, CART wasn't the only series that had a delay for that reason too, so it's not like CART were the sole ones at it. ABC were very much into the habit of playing the radio transmissions during the races, think back to 1995 when, IIRC, it was brand new to open the radio channels and put the driver/team chatter on the air. Even F1 delays the radio traffic as of now, and I'll absolutely agree that F1's made infinitely more mistakes than CART ever did, both within and after the same timeframe
@@jacekatalakis8316 Ah yes, I heard about such rules in US TV, but to my knowledge those didn't apply to subscription cable networks which I thought CART was shown on. The mistake count battle between F1 and CART would be very close for sure, but F1 was in a much stronger position to survive all the mistakes and it still does today despite an even more incapable management running it now.
The US 500 that Tony Kanaan won... that was the Michigan race where Max Papis led a good chunk and was looking like his first victory until he ran out of fuel right? He was my fav CART driver as a kid and it broke my heart to see him lose that one. I recall them saying he lost telemetry data at some point in the race and the television coverage shared his radio where he was in tears from coming so close to winning with such a tumultuous career.
Saddly no, the race starts on the back straight with a standing start and comes around to start the first lap. Its not perfect but it gets the job done.
@@GPLaps is that just how this track was built, or is this a fairly “easy” thing to adjust in the track files? Might have to start asking for devs to start implementing this, looks awesome.
@@GPLaps can you send me here the link to download the file please? I didn't find it in the Facebook group, but I would love as a fan of CART to have it in my Assetto Corsa. Thank you!
I felt a pang of sadness the moment your video snapped to Greg Moore’s car. I do remember an Indycar game from 2005 on the PS2. It was pretty decent for what it was back then.
I loved the Reynards of the 1990's. Sleek, fast and competitive. It would be great if IndyCar would use this style template for the next Gen car!!! Another Great post GPLaps. Thank you for all of your tech knowledge and sharing this with your fans.
Man late 90s CART was peak - I hate that the split killed it. Such strong talent in those fields, the mix of different tracks was totally unique, and it was such a competitive championship - lots of competitive teams and drivers, the different chassis/engine/tire combinations...all of it was peak peak racing. Feels like Indycar is only now approaching that level again - but now we have standardized chassis/tires, and only a couple mega-teams that are truly competitive. Hope the series continues to improve
Great driving and great video! Still have my purchased new, boxed versions of ICR (1993) and CART Racing (1996), and of course, Indianapolis 500 The Simulation (1989).
I took the opportunity to see CART live on track in 2001 when they visited germany. This should have been one of the happiest days of my life and partially it definitely was! The date was september fifteenth. I can't even describe my feelings and the vibe going on there in those days. They of course canceled all the pre and after show celebration stuff they planned. Seeing and hearing(!) these guys and their cars directly in front of me was incredible! And then I saw Zanardi spinning out of the pit exit and got hit by Tagliani. I was not far away from the point the accident happened. This day still gives me all sorts of emotions.
I was there, too, and can really imagine your feelings. It was emotionally a very strange event because of what had happened in the US some days before, the good times my dad and I had once we arrived in the Lausitz area and really enjoying the race (seeing US open wheel oval racing right in front of my eyes in Germany was surreal) including having nice strangers incl. one Zanardi fan sitting with us in Turn 1 and then the moment of Zanardi loosing the car right in front of us followed by the horrific accident and us back in the hotel constantly checking the sport pages on German Teletext hoping to read some good news about the drivers involved. In the end I was tired was couldn't sleep well. It also overshadowed a great win by Bräck.
Amazing mod. Had some 1992 skins painted for it, but lost my HD with them. Had the Valvoline from Al Unser Jr, MGD from Rahal (title winner) and the Ganassis.
Just brilliant!! As a Brit it was Nigel Mansell that got me into CART racing and the 1990's was just immense for Indy Car...Rahal, Unser, Luyendyk, Boesel, Fittipaldi, Andretti, Gordon, Tracy and of course Mansell...
Great, fantastic video! Thanks for that! Please do more CART races! I remember seeing Gregs fatal race live, it still makes me very sad, till this day!
idk if you own rfactor 2 or not but i know you normally showcase older car sim content and on the steam workshop for rfactor 2 a f1 1967 mod v0.6 is on there rn
I remember catching Indycar in the 90s on some cable TV channel. I was immediately hooked because I thought the cars looked amazing. Most of the motorsport coverage in my country was F1 and Rally, but seeing those cars they looked like spaceships. I grew up and oval racing never really became my thing but I still adore the aesthetics of Indycar as well as the road races. I think the latest chassis with the Aero is one of the sexiest open wheelers racing today.
1990s CART was by far the best racing has ever been... best cars, great drives, rivalries electric broadcasts, Interesting schedules, and most importantly a series that was proper competitive.
Indy 1995 from Papyrus what a game! That studio was made of brilliant people. Indycar racing grabbed my attention when Mansell went there and won the championship. 90s cars were in fact tremendous stuff but also very dangerous.
You never appreciate Oval Racing until you actually get into a car and do it. That's what Indycar was built upon and that's what it should have become. History can change things for sure but I'm glad we can look back on things like this.
@@Dethmeister I'd be more worried about having any time or space to do anything if anything went wrong. That was a definite problem at a place like Dover for the IRL. There's a reason USAC Indy Car only went to that place once, back in 1969.
@@Villoresi , Dover is just a mile and Texas is 1.5 miles. IRL is different than CART. IRL races at Texas because they are slower than CART was. CART cancelled the race at Texas because of high speeds and g-forces that exceeded human tolerance that left most drivers dizzy and disoriented and could possibly cause them to black out with prolonged runs.
@@Dethmeister The initial comment is about doing it in AC, and so I took your reply to be facetious. In the context of the sim, traffic and being able to take evasive action seemed more relevant here. I know why the 2001 CART race was cancelled. Sustained loads that high were causing the beginning stages of black-outs for drivers. The odd thing is, the fastest lap from the abandoned CART event was a 22.542, but in 1998, the fastest lap from either IRL event was a 22.972. So the difference in pace wasn't always necessarily that great. Not to mention, why weren't the IRL guys having issues, at least that we particularly heard about?
@@Villoresi , Maybe most of the IRL speed was on the straights but the CART package allowed them to go faster on the banks. I remember Andretti said his neck and spine were compressing and he never felt anything like it before. But yeah Assetto Corsa doesn't simulate black outs like flight sims lol.
That was a stunning race! I liked champ cars back in the day, more than any other racing series, player also IR2 and Cart PR... This simulation 20 years earlier I would have killed for! Please more content like this! Would be awesome ;-)
I'm working on fixing the SimDream 1995 cars using the VRC mod. It's coming along okay, and I've been really enjoying it. I can send a link with what I have so far if you want.
@@GPLaps They aren't done, and they still have the bad conversion graphics, apart from some minor CM fixes. But they are a lot of fun, and hopefully I can get the oval cars working better as well.
I would be interested as well please. I also bought their 1998 carset before I knew about their dubious reputation. :( It would be cool to have more proper physics applied to that carset as well. It currently seems like an improper CART Factor rF1 conversion.
Superb video, I remember staying up in the UK and listening to these races on the radio, finding whatever footage I could; I didn't realise how well AC could do it. By the way, check out the Crew Chief app for all your spotter needs, it's a must have with anything that should have radio contact with the pits
It was on TV on channel 5 when it first launched after the soft core porn they used to show around 10 o clock at night. Ahh red shoe diaries. The time when a 5th channel on TV seemed revolutionary despite it being crap. I remember they used to show all sorts of American sports, ice hockey, American football, motorsports, major league soccer, South American football. Obviously they only showed it cos no one else wanted it and it was what they could get to fill the air time but I enjoyed watching alot of that stuff having never had access to any of it before. It was novel lol
You absolutely nailed it.... modern day racing sims have been ignoring open-wheel oval racing. Some of the oldest and fondest memories are of oval racing in Indycar Racing 2.
I also have this mod and the oval tracks for Assetto Corsa. I enjoy doing similar races on many of the Ovals and Road/Street tracks Indycar raced trhoughout the past years. Only thing I wish AC 1 game had is rolling starts. Too bad, would of made it a better game. I do have the same thing for RFactor 2, and it does have rolling starts. Thanks for the video. take care.
Hi, another awesome vid! But I got a question for you in a point I need help as you use refuel in AC. I'm doing offline races from vintage era, last year did all the 1970 World Sports Championship with half distance but I'm getting a annoying problem. The AI pit for fuel and change tires, but the time they spend is the same from the changing tires, and not the correct time for refuel. As an example the Porsche 917k takes approximately 60 seconds to fill the tank with 120L, the time to change tires is 20 seconds. When I pit my time is exactly the time to refuel (60s), but AI takes 20s. When watching onboard with racing essentials app active I can see that when the AI touches the pit stall the got instantaneous refuel, it goes from nothing to full automatically. I've searched a lot about AI in Assetto Corsa, but didn't find nothing related with the refuel time being wrong, or that the refuel being made automatically and doesn't respect the time set in the ai.ini. Have you got this issue either? Does you know how to troubleshoot or a workaround? It would be greatly appreciated! 😞
This was the best series in the world at the time and I got to watch it all. This really brought back some awesome memories. Need this in my life again
AC is so ridiculously malleable, I think even Kunos didn't realize what they had on their hands originally. Basically anything is possible in this thing, and with things like CSP I wouldn't be stunned if you could incorporate the actual CART rules somehow.
I’ve only just started racing these cars and they are magnificent, the ovals are good, but the street tracks are incredible, the long beach t21 in these cars is amazing. Great vid btw!
Man - considering Greg Moore was headed to the Penske seat that eventually went to Helio - can't help but wonder if he could've been a 4-time Indy champ as well....
I was at the 98' Michigan was where sadly 3 spectators lost their lives. Thankfully I was sitting in Turn 1-2. Gregg Moore got his 1st win. The speed & sound those cars made was absolutely awesome. Racing, in general, of today as lost its luster. I don't follow nascar, f1 nor indycars anymore tho I religiously followed them all in the 90's & 00's but they aren't the same minus my shock & awe while watching the 1st 10 laps of Vegas in 2011 before the race was cancelled due to losing Wheldon but if racing was like that, I'd tune in every single week but everyone is a pussy in todays age & why I only watch sprint car racing. The big 3 pavement series are dead to me until they change something
Maybe a tutorial on how to install.. and download these mods... I got lost in a sea of confusing links.... Sucks, because this is my favorite era of open wheel....
Assetto Corsa has yellow flags. They don't work right on an oval? Also why no damage? There was only that one crash and Assetto Corsa has bland crashes anyway. No pieces and wheels that fly off cars in crashes, so little disruption to other cars.
Interesting fact: this track didn't have a fence down the whole backstretch in 98' nor did the fence arch over onto the track allowing a tire fly in the stands a kill 3 people in 98'
Is it possible to get this mod on a console version of assetto corso? I’m looking into getting this game mainly for this mod lol. Not sure if I could get away with a console version or need the pc version
I'd love to see these cars slung around some of the street circuits they didn't get a chance to, like Sao Paulo (2010-13), Las Vegas (2007), and I hope Nashville gets modded fairly quickly, as that one looks pretty decent as well.
Apparently 5G is about the maximum Indycar drivers endure normally although I'm not sure about this corner specifically. Kenny Brack survived 214G in a crash which is the highest ever recorded with survival.
Drove the hell out of IndyCar2 back then. On a 19" VGA monitor, with a flight control yoke and rudder pedals. (tons of Nascar2 on same rig). Good times... Gotta say, the AI is much, Much, MUCH better here... heheheh
"The AI in this video were all given individual ratings that spanned from 99% for the fastest cars and 88% for the slowest." Can you please explain how you did this? Thanks
Man, this is good stuff! I'd be very curious to see what these cars could do at Pocono. And there are some of the newer street circuits these didn't get to run on where I think they could put on quite a show as well, such as Las Vegas (2007) and Sao Paulo (2010-13). And while some might want to hang me as a heretic for this one, I think the 2006-07 iteration of the San Jose street circuit was pretty good. They'd gotten the kinks sorted out from 2005, and it was a simple, quick course with a few decent overtaking opportunities around its fairly short lap.
Greg was just incredible, his feel on ovals was uncanny. Thanks for showing his car.
Had the privilege of chatting to Max Papis last year and he had nothing but nice things to say about him.
@@AidanMillward Max is another good guy. Greg was the nexus for the drivers off the track and the vibe was great. The boys, even Montoya, all hung out. but on track they competed hard. Everyone loved Greg.
@@AidanMillward If I remember correctly that it was indeed Max Papis who seemed the most saddened by the terrible fate that met Greg Moore that day at Fontana California. This memory was from an interview with Max at Greg's funeral. Maybe you could do an episode of your excellent "What If" series with Greg Moore as the subject. PS; I absolutely Loved the video with Jimmy Clark as the subject in your "What If" series.
In memory of Gerg Moore
Should’ve not risked it with that broken wrist
In memory of Greg Moore, Gonzalo Rodriguez and all the other pilots that are racing in Heaven
@@optionrush5050 Very true, but Greg was an absolutely fearless Lion who just couldn't sit Fontana out. His passing shocked and saddened the racing world in 1999.
@@slayer80 both shocked me as a kid back then
*greg
When IndyCars sounded and moved like rocket ships.
For people who don’t know: 1999 was the nadir of Roger Penske’s organization in open-wheel racing. Under Mercedes-Benz management, the bulk of Ilmor’s resources were going toward the Formula 1 program with McLaren, and their CART engine was falling behind in development. Meanwhile, Penske’s chassis program was getting progressively worse, to the point where the team gave up on their own cars in mid-season in favor of buying some Lolas. Keep in mind that Lola was in such financial trouble after their failed attempt at F1 in 1997 that Carl Haas, who controlled Lola’s distribution business, refused to field their cars for his own team.
Penske spent most of the year fielding only one car for Al Unser Jr., whose descent into alcoholism was becoming apparent by then. At Laguna Seca, they entered a second car for Gonzalo Rodriguez, who was killed in a crash caused by a stuck throttle at the Corkscrew. It was already announced that Penske would field Reynard-Hondas for Gil de Ferran and Greg Moore in 2000; then Moore, too, was killed at the season finale in Fontana.
Thanks for the details on this. Undoubtedly a low point for Penske racing. Amazing they collected themselves and came into Indycar so strong a few years later.
And then Gil snatched the 2000 and 2001 championships. Great comeback.
@@GPLaps Not even a couple of years: de Ferran won the CART championship the very next season, but that might not be the most remarkable part of the turnaround.
Lola was as good as dead in 1998: they had one customer in CART (who was at the back of the grid every race) and no money to put into chassis development. With the infusion of cash and technical support from Penske (who had just managed to design a car that was completely undriveable, mind you), Lola was back to building race-winning chassis in 2000...and Penske didn’t even race Lolas in 2000.
What happened at Penske in the late ‘90s is completely inexplicable, and I still haven’t seen an account of those couple of years that gets to the heart of it.
raynard got caught up in f1 and went broke as well . the moral of the story is f1 ruins everything .
@Joe bloggs man what's wrong with you
I never thought sim racing videos could be so stylish and polished. Your music and narration and everything is 👌
Honestly, Sim Racing has the potential to be a fantastic tool in automotive and motorsport documentaries, especially for cars whose real-world footage is either limited or riddled with licensing red tape.
Its honestly amazing the impact that Greg Moore had on people. It speaks volumes to his legacy that even so many years after his passing the mere sight of that forsythe Indycar gets fans of a certain age waxing nostalgic. Maybe it was the red gloves, or the fact that the commentary team kept pushing him as a young future champion, or even just that he wore glasses like me, but he was 10 year old me's favorite driver. I learned a hard lesson that year, but I definitely still remember Greg Moore, and im glad that seemingly so many others do to.
He was young, marketable and full to the brim with talent on ovals and road courses... A lot of people saw him going to F1 including Penske, who signed him up for the next season. Sadly he never got the chance to show what he could do in the very best of equipment. Not that the Player's team didn't have some top notch stuff of their own....
I see CART I click subscribe.
Watched this series religiously as a kid.
RIP Greg Moore
I remember my old man telling me when I was younger that he didn't like Indycar because "it was borderline suicidal". Today I understand what he meant but I'll be damned if it doesn't make some of the most intense racing in the world! 🏎️
I'm going to use his description if I may.
There was a 20 year period in F1 where an average of three drivers died per season before they started taking safety seriously.
rally and motorcycle racing was worse . but there is something about the intense speeds that grabs peoples attention . today there hasnt been an oval fatal crash in 10 years
@@AlistairMaxwell77 Justin Wilson died 2015 and Vegas ˋ11 isn’t just 10 years ago. And in the last few years a hand full of drivers came close. Dixon was just a few inches away from crushing his head.
@@Fivecorr Wickens was real close too a couple years ago
I'm watching CART races at the moment, since the official site uploads them regularly. I was an avid F1 fan at the time but still would stay up late (although in school) and watch the races in Eurosport. Some of the best racing ever.
Am i right to say that we want a series out of this? No, we NEED a complete series!
All in!!!
I think the last couple of seasons in CART, with the changes that they made to the car, both aero and push to pass button, made for some of the best open wheel racing on the planet. It didn't have the history, culture, and famous road circuits of F1, but it had made changes to facilitate more passes in the braking zone, which ironically F1 adapted years later. I loved CART and like many, mourned its merger with IRL, even though I understood the economics.
2 comments
1- Spotter for AC, look for crew chief add-on.
2- look for the mod CART Extreme for Automobilista. Graphics aren't as good as Assetto Corsa, but AI is better and you can have rolling starts.
AC AI is just meh...
You can find a mod of CART 1998 for rFactor 2 in Steam Workshop
The Irish Super Sub himself,
Robert O'Moreno!
#redglovesrule. Rest in Peace, Greg.
CART
2023 should be your year then, an official Indy car game will be released in 2023
All you need is the ABC crew getting excited over that duel. I can hear Parker Johnstone explaining aero push already and Paul Page going whoa. Good times and yes, they did have spotters from 95 onwards, but was explained in the 95 New Hampshire broadcast at that time, they weren't like NASCAR spoters. By 2000 they were more like NASCAR spotters in that they would tel drivers if they were clear or if there was a car down there. In 99/200 ABC had a delay on the radio broadcasts (thanks JPM in part?) which led to the imortal quote of:
Due to the...eloquence of the CART drivers.
Read: JPM's at it again guys, gotta put adelay on this.
I thought it was due to Paul Tracy who was foul mouthed as well and one of my f****ng favorites
Delaying radio transmissions is just one of thousands of mistakes CART made.
@@armorgeddon Not really, the series and networks had to in order to comply with FCC regulations so they could avoid getting ABC/ESPN slapped with fines for what the FCC thought at the time ws obscenities. CART's hands were tied on that front, but scanners were very, very much uncensored. And doing some research, CART wasn't the only series that had a delay for that reason too, so it's not like CART were the sole ones at it. ABC were very much into the habit of playing the radio transmissions during the races, think back to 1995 when, IIRC, it was brand new to open the radio channels and put the driver/team chatter on the air. Even F1 delays the radio traffic as of now, and I'll absolutely agree that F1's made infinitely more mistakes than CART ever did, both within and after the same timeframe
@@jacekatalakis8316 Ah yes, I heard about such rules in US TV, but to my knowledge those didn't apply to subscription cable networks which I thought CART was shown on. The mistake count battle between F1 and CART would be very close for sure, but F1 was in a much stronger position to survive all the mistakes and it still does today despite an even more incapable management running it now.
Loved the battle with Montoya. Makes me want to load up AC again.
The US 500 that Tony Kanaan won... that was the Michigan race where Max Papis led a good chunk and was looking like his first victory until he ran out of fuel right? He was my fav CART driver as a kid and it broke my heart to see him lose that one. I recall them saying he lost telemetry data at some point in the race and the television coverage shared his radio where he was in tears from coming so close to winning with such a tumultuous career.
Just wanted to echo others' desire to see you do a similar excellent review of the CART Extreme mod for Automobilista please. 🙏🏼
Wait a minute -- was that a rolling start in AC? If so, how?
Saddly no, the race starts on the back straight with a standing start and comes around to start the first lap. Its not perfect but it gets the job done.
@@GPLaps is that just how this track was built, or is this a fairly “easy” thing to adjust in the track files? Might have to start asking for devs to start implementing this, looks awesome.
The ever versatile AC
@@GPLaps can you send me here the link to download the file please? I didn't find it in the Facebook group, but I would love as a fan of CART to have it in my Assetto Corsa.
Thank you!
I wanna see a full 500 miles race with damage turn on, that would be quick and chaotic... maybe a challenge
absolutely yes!
I felt a pang of sadness the moment your video snapped to Greg Moore’s car.
I do remember an Indycar game from 2005 on the PS2. It was pretty decent for what it was back then.
That game was made by Codemasters, who now make the F1 games. The game wasn't very good...
wasn't it that really stupid arcade game that plays like burnout with indycars
You should totally set up a series for these that would be so awesome to run a championship in these
Thanks for this, I literally just downloaded this car yesterday and it’s fantastic especially around long beach, really feels fantastic
This was just what I needed so a huge thanks👍 should of had crew chief on though 😉
I am a huge f1 fan but this video has made me really appreciate oval racing. It is truly a different challenge.
F1 fan here. Have to admit the 90's IndyCar cars are without any doubt the most beautiful four wheels vehicle ever designed
I sat in that car. It was in an Edmonton garage believe it or not.
I loved the Reynards of the 1990's. Sleek, fast and competitive. It would be great if IndyCar would use this style template for the next Gen car!!! Another Great post GPLaps. Thank you for all of your tech knowledge and sharing this with your fans.
Man late 90s CART was peak - I hate that the split killed it. Such strong talent in those fields, the mix of different tracks was totally unique, and it was such a competitive championship - lots of competitive teams and drivers, the different chassis/engine/tire combinations...all of it was peak peak racing.
Feels like Indycar is only now approaching that level again - but now we have standardized chassis/tires, and only a couple mega-teams that are truly competitive. Hope the series continues to improve
Great driving and great video! Still have my purchased new, boxed versions of ICR (1993) and CART Racing (1996), and of course, Indianapolis 500 The Simulation (1989).
I saw Gil de Ferran's 1999 Portland winner at a museum in Kentucky a few months ago and it looks just as good as the models in-game
we never even knew what we had :/
I took the opportunity to see CART live on track in 2001 when they visited germany. This should have been one of the happiest days of my life and partially it definitely was! The date was september fifteenth. I can't even describe my feelings and the vibe going on there in those days. They of course canceled all the pre and after show celebration stuff they planned. Seeing and hearing(!) these guys and their cars directly in front of me was incredible! And then I saw Zanardi spinning out of the pit exit and got hit by Tagliani. I was not far away from the point the accident happened. This day still gives me all sorts of emotions.
I was there, too, and can really imagine your feelings. It was emotionally a very strange event because of what had happened in the US some days before, the good times my dad and I had once we arrived in the Lausitz area and really enjoying the race (seeing US open wheel oval racing right in front of my eyes in Germany was surreal) including having nice strangers incl. one Zanardi fan sitting with us in Turn 1 and then the moment of Zanardi loosing the car right in front of us followed by the horrific accident and us back in the hotel constantly checking the sport pages on German Teletext hoping to read some good news about the drivers involved. In the end I was tired was couldn't sleep well. It also overshadowed a great win by Bräck.
@@armorgeddon See, I even forgot who won if I'm honest.
Sublime racing discipline. Pity that it's dead now (apart from the 500, and nightly Texas race, which really doesn't feel like it).
Amazing mod. Had some 1992 skins painted for it, but lost my HD with them. Had the Valvoline from Al Unser Jr, MGD from Rahal (title winner) and the Ganassis.
Greg Moore starting alongside Richie Hearn...Richie spun a few laps before Greg on the same turn 2 at Fontana...
Just brilliant!! As a Brit it was Nigel Mansell that got me into CART racing and the 1990's was just immense for Indy Car...Rahal, Unser, Luyendyk, Boesel, Fittipaldi, Andretti, Gordon, Tracy and of course Mansell...
#RedGlovesRule Greg Moore was ace
Great, fantastic video! Thanks for that! Please do more CART races! I remember seeing Gregs fatal race live, it still makes me very sad, till this day!
IDK why, but seriously got chills when it faded to the Greg Moore livery.
Yea
Not to be "that guy" but these cars should have The Hanford Device on them
For 1999 yes, but as I understood it in this video the modders targeted the 1995 season with this generic car shape.
Since you don't have a spotter, did you consider turning on the virtual rear mirror to compensate? Great vid.
Not a massive fan of turn left racing but this was a great video!
This brings back memories of being a little kid 6 years old watching the first race at fontana. Amazing mod.
You just keep hitting the highlights! That’s some of the best oval racing I’ve seen out of AC, didn’t think it could be done.
We should organize a texas CART firehawk 600 for the 20th anniversary of the race that never was!
I would tune in for that! That would be cool.
Love watching your historic races, your running commentary and knowledge of the other drivers is great
idk if you own rfactor 2 or not but i know you normally showcase older car sim content and on the steam workshop for rfactor 2 a f1 1967 mod v0.6 is on there rn
Thanks for this one. Again Im learning more about racing history in US.
Thanks for using #99 RIP
I remember catching Indycar in the 90s on some cable TV channel. I was immediately hooked because I thought the cars looked amazing. Most of the motorsport coverage in my country was F1 and Rally, but seeing those cars they looked like spaceships. I grew up and oval racing never really became my thing but I still adore the aesthetics of Indycar as well as the road races. I think the latest chassis with the Aero is one of the sexiest open wheelers racing today.
Can you do a full season of this!?
1990s CART was by far the best racing has ever been... best cars, great drives, rivalries electric broadcasts, Interesting schedules, and most importantly a series that was proper competitive.
Indy 1995 from Papyrus what a game! That studio was made of brilliant people. Indycar racing grabbed my attention when Mansell went there and won the championship. 90s cars were in fact tremendous stuff but also very dangerous.
You never appreciate Oval Racing until you actually get into a car and do it. That's what Indycar was built upon and that's what it should have become. History can change things for sure but I'm glad we can look back on things like this.
Should do the race that did not happen... CART at Texas Motor Speedway.
But the g-forces!
@@Dethmeister I'd be more worried about having any time or space to do anything if anything went wrong. That was a definite problem at a place like Dover for the IRL. There's a reason USAC Indy Car only went to that place once, back in 1969.
@@Villoresi , Dover is just a mile and Texas is 1.5 miles. IRL is different than CART. IRL races at Texas because they are slower than CART was. CART cancelled the race at Texas because of high speeds and g-forces that exceeded human tolerance that left most drivers dizzy and disoriented and could possibly cause them to black out with prolonged runs.
@@Dethmeister The initial comment is about doing it in AC, and so I took your reply to be facetious. In the context of the sim, traffic and being able to take evasive action seemed more relevant here.
I know why the 2001 CART race was cancelled. Sustained loads that high were causing the beginning stages of black-outs for drivers.
The odd thing is, the fastest lap from the abandoned CART event was a 22.542, but in 1998, the fastest lap from either IRL event was a 22.972. So the difference in pace wasn't always necessarily that great. Not to mention, why weren't the IRL guys having issues, at least that we particularly heard about?
@@Villoresi , Maybe most of the IRL speed was on the straights but the CART package allowed them to go faster on the banks. I remember Andretti said his neck and spine were compressing and he never felt anything like it before. But yeah Assetto Corsa doesn't simulate black outs like flight sims lol.
This was excellent, I like driving the 500 in ps4 but going to try this. Your intro was the best. Thanks
Proud/old enough to say I was at the inaugural US 500. Jimmy Vassar FTW
That was a stunning race! I liked champ cars back in the day, more than any other racing series, player also IR2 and Cart PR... This simulation 20 years earlier I would have killed for!
Please more content like this! Would be awesome ;-)
2:06 *happens* me: *cries*
I'm working on fixing the SimDream 1995 cars using the VRC mod. It's coming along okay, and I've been really enjoying it. I can send a link with what I have so far if you want.
definitely sounds interesting, shoot me an email id love to check it out!
@@GPLaps They aren't done, and they still have the bad conversion graphics, apart from some minor CM fixes. But they are a lot of fun, and hopefully I can get the oval cars working better as well.
I would be interested as well please. I also bought their 1998 carset before I knew about their dubious reputation. :( It would be cool to have more proper physics applied to that carset as well. It currently seems like an improper CART Factor rF1 conversion.
I don't know what it is, but mid 90s CARTs look just most delicious.
Superb video, I remember staying up in the UK and listening to these races on the radio, finding whatever footage I could; I didn't realise how well AC could do it.
By the way, check out the Crew Chief app for all your spotter needs, it's a must have with anything that should have radio contact with the pits
Which radio station in the UK covered these races?
It was on TV on channel 5 when it first launched after the soft core porn they used to show around 10 o clock at night. Ahh red shoe diaries. The time when a 5th channel on TV seemed revolutionary despite it being crap. I remember they used to show all sorts of American sports, ice hockey, American football, motorsports, major league soccer, South American football. Obviously they only showed it cos no one else wanted it and it was what they could get to fill the air time but I enjoyed watching alot of that stuff having never had access to any of it before. It was novel lol
You absolutely nailed it.... modern day racing sims have been ignoring open-wheel oval racing. Some of the oldest and fondest memories are of oval racing in Indycar Racing 2.
I also have this mod and the oval tracks for Assetto Corsa. I enjoy doing similar races on many of the Ovals and Road/Street tracks Indycar raced trhoughout the past years.
Only thing I wish AC 1 game had is rolling starts. Too bad, would of made it a better game.
I do have the same thing for RFactor 2, and it does have rolling starts.
Thanks for the video. take care.
If only AC had gestures too , you could've given Montoya the finger like Moore did in real life
Hi, another awesome vid!
But I got a question for you in a point I need help as you use refuel in AC.
I'm doing offline races from vintage era, last year did all the 1970 World Sports Championship with half distance but I'm getting a annoying problem.
The AI pit for fuel and change tires, but the time they spend is the same from the changing tires, and not the correct time for refuel.
As an example the Porsche 917k takes approximately 60 seconds to fill the tank with 120L, the time to change tires is 20 seconds. When I pit my time is exactly the time to refuel (60s), but AI takes 20s. When watching onboard with racing essentials app active I can see that when the AI touches the pit stall the got instantaneous refuel, it goes from nothing to full automatically.
I've searched a lot about AI in Assetto Corsa, but didn't find nothing related with the refuel time being wrong, or that the refuel being made automatically and doesn't respect the time set in the ai.ini.
Have you got this issue either? Does you know how to troubleshoot or a workaround?
It would be greatly appreciated! 😞
This was the best series in the world at the time and I got to watch it all. This really brought back some awesome memories. Need this in my life again
AC is so ridiculously malleable, I think even Kunos didn't realize what they had on their hands originally. Basically anything is possible in this thing, and with things like CSP I wouldn't be stunned if you could incorporate the actual CART rules somehow.
What I wouldn't give for a proper modern game about CART
I’ve only just started racing these cars and they are magnificent, the ovals are good, but the street tracks are incredible, the long beach t21 in these cars is amazing. Great vid btw!
Man - considering Greg Moore was headed to the Penske seat that eventually went to Helio - can't help but wonder if he could've been a 4-time Indy champ as well....
I was at the 98' Michigan was where sadly 3 spectators lost their lives. Thankfully I was sitting in Turn 1-2. Gregg Moore got his 1st win. The speed & sound those cars made was absolutely awesome. Racing, in general, of today as lost its luster. I don't follow nascar, f1 nor indycars anymore tho I religiously followed them all in the 90's & 00's but they aren't the same minus my shock & awe while watching the 1st 10 laps of Vegas in 2011 before the race was cancelled due to losing Wheldon but if racing was like that, I'd tune in every single week but everyone is a pussy in todays age & why I only watch sprint car racing. The big 3 pavement series are dead to me until they change something
CART was losing to the IRL back in 1999, sponserships started to pull out of CART,
Maybe a tutorial on how to install.. and download these mods... I got lost in a sea of confusing links.... Sucks, because this is my favorite era of open wheel....
It's a miracle more people didn't die, honestly. Open-wheel at 250mph, JESUS.
Also, does the ai_default.ini go in the track\ai folder or just the track folder? Thanks
That looks like MIS. That's home track. About 30min from my house.
Good night, this mod is paid correct? and is it complete, championship structure and everything?

Hello young man, where can I find your version Michigan oval track?
Thank you
Fantastic mod of one of the most exciting and fastest types of motor racing ever. Great video!
Assetto Corsa has yellow flags. They don't work right on an oval? Also why no damage? There was only that one crash and Assetto Corsa has bland crashes anyway. No pieces and wheels that fly off cars in crashes, so little disruption to other cars.
Interesting fact: this track didn't have a fence down the whole backstretch in 98' nor did the fence arch over onto the track allowing a tire fly in the stands a kill 3 people in 98'
250 mph with concrete walls, no SAFER barriers back then
How did you do the flying Start in Assetto Corsa? I thought this is impossible for this game :O
"Moreno" doest half look like he is wearing Blundell's helmet...
Is it possible to get this mod on a console version of assetto corso? I’m looking into getting this game mainly for this mod lol. Not sure if I could get away with a console version or need the pc version
How did you do a rolling atart
Start**
The track has no texture, bumps ect. Other than that, looks fun.
Definitely take these to Indy and see just how fast they’d go
This car is so much fun to throw around a street circuit like long beach or belle isle also the car is the reynard 99i
I'd love to see these cars slung around some of the street circuits they didn't get a chance to, like Sao Paulo (2010-13), Las Vegas (2007), and I hope Nashville gets modded fairly quickly, as that one looks pretty decent as well.
Can’t even imagine the g force during turn 3 would be nuts a least 5
Apparently 5G is about the maximum Indycar drivers endure normally although I'm not sure about this corner specifically.
Kenny Brack survived 214G in a crash which is the highest ever recorded with survival.
First year at Texas everyone was blacking out from the sustained G.
@@Skreezilla Yeah, I think the cumulative G-load was at least 6 in the turns, which as a momentary thing is fine, but not sustained.
Sooo cool! The handling... the 90's fell!
No cautions? Ya lost me...
Hey Jake, I joined the group @fb.
How do I get to the Michigan Superspeedway? Search under "Topics" ... or "Announcements" ?
Greetings from overseas!
Hi there, it was in one of the posts in that group, but from a while back
hi gp how did you get a rolling start in assetto corsa??
Indycar Legends does simulation.
Amazing. it looks better than automobilista
Drove the hell out of IndyCar2 back then. On a 19" VGA monitor, with a flight control yoke and rudder pedals. (tons of Nascar2 on same rig). Good times... Gotta say, the AI is much, Much, MUCH better here... heheheh
Moore would have won 30 races I bet.
"The AI in this video were all given individual ratings that spanned from 99% for the fastest cars and 88% for the slowest." Can you please explain how you did this? Thanks
I believe you can set the AI skill spread in the settings.
Man, this is good stuff!
I'd be very curious to see what these cars could do at Pocono.
And there are some of the newer street circuits these didn't get to run on where I think they could put on quite a show as well, such as Las Vegas (2007) and Sao Paulo (2010-13).
And while some might want to hang me as a heretic for this one, I think the 2006-07 iteration of the San Jose street circuit was pretty good. They'd gotten the kinks sorted out from 2005, and it was a simple, quick course with a few decent overtaking opportunities around its fairly short lap.