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Finn McKenty is a fan of whatever drives engagement on his channel.
This one. I stopped watching him a long time ago because he has a history of flip flopping
That guy is a clown, he was just projecting himself 😂
I'm a Japanese BM fan. I'm watching it with an automatic translation, so I don't think I'm understanding the content accurately, but I think there are more videos reacting to BM recently in order to get more views. Many of them are very unpleasant, just stating opinions with little content, and then they post another video at the recommendation of the comment. It doesn't have to be a particularly enthusiastic fan, but I get annoyed when I see the idea of showing a situation that I'm not even impressed by to people who are lured by the word "BABYMETAL" and trying to get them to play it. I think this video is one of those things. Also, thank you for your valuable interview as always.
Well, well, well...either he is finally ready to admit that he "is into nerdy metal and finds those girls attractive" or his opinion changes depending on who he is talking to and why, lol
lmao
Or BM brings likes/upvotes whoever mention them, so clickbait strategy!
Nothing but *projection* coming from that dude and the lobotomites in his echo chamber of a chat.
If what sold was sensual or physical, believe me there would be much more popular idol bands.I have literally known groups that go on stage only in bikinis to attract attention and only stay at presentations of 15 people. Babymetal is the complete opposite and I think no fan looks at them that way. It is clearly evident that he is neither a fan of the group nor knows anything about Japanese musical culture.
Agreed
There were definitely creeps but its less common today it seems. I remember back in 2014, i was still in highschool and people were being weird in the comments wanting to marry Su
The Idol thing is really confusing me at all, and i dont know whats real happen in japan. but i never heared any sexual thing about babymetal, from europeans or japanese either
The whole topic is weird. You're some kind of a pervert if you're attracted to women? Since when?
I don't really want to give him much attention. I'll gladly admit understanding Babymetal is no easy task, most of us had their own WTF moment. But if you don't know why something is popular that's fine, but don't jump to the conclusion because they are pretty girls... because then in the last case it might be because you see them this way and that could be problematic.
The reason I like Babymetal and not some group of 'western girls' is because of their cultural influence, including singing technique. (not to mention how their image is not sexual at all, unlike most western female artists).
It's the same reason why I like Bloodywood, because of their own cultural influence (and obviously they both deliver a LOT of live energy).
Also explains the popularity of The HU (and why I already knew of some of the Mongolian metal bands before The HU got popular).
Edit: I see you now also mentioned Electric Callboy that also have that live energy.
Yeah, this is the same guy that said Su lip syncs during concerts, and when he ws called out on it he said that he never said that. Then Babymetal fans showed him the video where he says it and he still denied it. He is just doing this to drive traffic to his channel.
The only people I’ve ever heard talk about su, moa, and momo with any sexual connotations are people who are not fans
Ngl he's probably the one who sexuallyze them in his head, ofc people do, but that's cuz they are sick
Exactly. Had same reaction by others " You like them because they are Young and pretty". No I fucking love Babymetal because they make great music and it it feels good and gives positive vibes. Over 20 Years I listened metal and I am tired of doom and gloom shit. That wars who is more darker and more hardcore. With Babymetal I am just having fucking awesome fun.
How the table turn now. I think he do this because of the trend of Japanese music keep rising and he don't wanna lose a traffic
Yeah he is losing a lot of traffic is channels pretty much dying. But he claims he's been over there. But I think the sudden change the tune is a lot of us in this particular form and GG have pretty much went on the attack as soon as that video posted so maybe he could be responding to that backlash too
who would sit and listen to a song that they hate because someone is beautiful/handsome? being cute sure helps since they are idols
The simple explanation is that when someone only sees women as sexual objects, with no other possible value, they assume that everyone else sees them that way too.
well well well, the guy that not too long ago spoke about people only listen to japanese music becuause "they fetishize the japanese" is now a fan? meh, sorry, not convinced what he's talking
I think anyone is allowed to be a fan of Babymetal. But I'll make an exception for him.
I wouldn't believe Finn McKenty if he told me rain was wet. Everything he does is for clicks. He threw together that last video about Japanese metal without doing any real research just to rile people up, and I'm sure it worked. Now he sees his chance to capitalize on the popularity of Babymetal, so now he's magically a fan. Will he backtrack on the crap he said about BAND-MAID? Only if it suits his purposes.
I agree unfortunately
@@Dicodec I made sure to post the link to that video in the comments of his new bullsh*t video.
Yeah guys a waste of time
Yea he clickbait’s and rage bait’s everything and his chat is one of the worst echo chambers I’ve ever had the misfortune of seeing
I agree with you. I want to send him a message to get a refund on my time. I have the receipt in my view history.
After all the stuff he said before... I don't believe a word he says.
He has (at least) four previous videos about BABYMETAL on his channel (with lip-syncing accusations, etc.). If you read the comments on those videos, most of them are against his opinions and theories... which is hilarious. Now he just wants more clicks. That's all.
His comments are like that but his chat is a toxic echo chamber
@@robdurfee6861 Yeah, a classic. I guess it's easier to act like that in a context where your comments "disappear" after the live. He's promoting this attitude after all.
Dude saying the girls are not into this kind of music, they're not metal girls, he lost me in that moment smh
I'll give the dude the benefit of doubt, but at the end of the day, I'm here for their music and their live performance. Genuine or not, haters can label me what ever they want haha. Not gonna affect how I enjoy music.
Right on. I will take his video at face value. It was a fair video. 🖖❤
Maybe when he dived into the babymetal history he had a change of heart how the group struggled to be who they are now and they can do and prove that babymetal is not just a phase
I was really surprised by his new video as well since I remember the negative things he said earlier on about BM (as you showed in the clip). I find it suspicious tbh.
You either die Pat Finnerty, or you live long enough to see yourself become Finn McKenty.
I think it's really important that we don't forget his credentials. Remember, he used to watch anime in the 90s . . .
lol
If he ends up promoting them it's good enough for me, as for sexualisation - just silly :) How many female groups /bands do you see wearing dresses down past their KNEES? 😂 Only one I know of. They've never intentionally been sexualised - and I'd say about 90% of the female performers/singers etc usually include that as part of their image, which I'm not a huge fan of - anymore than I'd like to see a male band strutting around in cod pieces 😐
Oderus Urungus was doing that in the 90s my friend
Realistically speaking sex sells, especially in a male dominated genre as metal. There is nothing wrong with that either. In the case of babymetal, they might not be dressed like the K pop idols, but they are dressed sexy in a subtle way. Lets not bullshit ourselves, back in 2000 Lacuna Coil and Nightwish got everyone's attention and subsequently sold tons of album because they were fronted by cute young european girls.
And the male equivalent, lets operate in reality.
@@maciejnowak666 Nightwish got attention not because of sex but because it married Metal and classical. It was epic.
The sheer talent, hard work, and determination that you see in their live performance is what drew me in the first place. It literally blew my mind that these tiny girls can control a group of metal heads. How can you not respect that? The light shows, the musicianship, the choreography, the singing, it's all amazing every single time. Somehow those three girls have the energy to go back and do it again and again across the globe. Also, I'm not going to lie and say I don't find the 3 of them attractive, because I do. They have such beauty about them that extends way beyond their physical looks, a beauty that most people wish for.
This guy is all BS. He's pushing anything for clicks. He's still arguing the BabyMetal fans are fascinating out of fetish for young girls. He's basically already prejudging the BM fans or out J-Rock/Metal girl band fans aren't in them for their music but other reasons. I had written this guy off long ago. Just cut him off on the "not to be recommended" list and move on. Don't give him any more click than he so not deserved.
"Oh I got a sponsor, I need to think of a content that would get potential large views, coz that might also generate potential clicks and sales. Right! I'll do one for Babymetal coz well I'm somehow a "fan" and "some" of their fans are too into these chicks that they'll likely watch and read every single video or article about them, I'll make it clickbaity but U'll say mostly nice things"
That's likely just the core purpose of that video he made.
Bullshit. Finn is beyond redemption for me...
You guys are quick!
I know nothing about music but i feel there's something in j-rock/metal that just hits differently and i love it. Yes i'm into some female-only bands but my favorite group is "my first story" that only has dudes in it. I don't understand why when it comes to japan people think it's creppy to like it ??? And we also should not find girls hot? wtf
A lot of people have hatred for anything japanese.
this guy is the worst , why some people follow him , I just don't get it
They’re of age as far as I know - Finn McKenty 👀
Followed Finn for awhile, and knowing that he has a youtube “bully” persona, i can believe that he might not hate them off youtube, he hates/dislikes a lot of popular bands on his youtube persona to tick people off and gain clicks, im not the biggest believer that he is in fact a fan but i appreciate him for doing a positive video on Babymetal since he has a big audience/platform.
Finn is just another UA-cam poser.
I LOVE BabyMetal..and do not think of the girls sexually at all... They are just FANTASTIC performers... they are more adorable then sexually attractive...But if they weren't GREAT performers with GREAT songs I would never watch them...Also I have done drum covers of MANY BabyMetal songs.
Oeople simply startet realize that zhesrcgirls have their oen fandom. This mives the importance significantly . Those are Fans that otherwise not see youre Band. Anothervimporzant point, their Band is only a backup Band.
I think he did a good video. Everyone has the right to change their opinions. He has a big platform and more exposure. I agree to an extent his original premise of his first video. And yes "Babymetal stans" are real
It only took one video to drive me away from McKenty. I don't listen to anything he says even if it coincides with my own views.
I freak out when he say in an other video that people liked Kanami (guitarist of Band-Maid) because of sexual things 😤.... I think he has a problem or doing it just to get views.
There's a typo in your title, Alan. It's "Finn McCuntyPRMBA." Don't trust shysters.
lol
Finn's projection is clearly showing.
Hey buddy! If we were all just watching bc of some weird Asian fixation;
- 1: we truly chose the most respectably clothed group of all time and
- 2: Asian porn exists. So what would we be watching live videos and mvs for?
One way to measure some of what he says is to compare videos to only audio, say youtube (Subscribers) vs spotify (listenerss). Obviously the point is, given that the music pretty good does the fact that the group in question is visually agreeable make a substantial additional incentive to follow the group. Clearly, yes, it makes a difference. How much does it make a difference is the
question. I like watching "live" performances since it gives one a little more insight as to whether they really are skilled.
Yeh I'm not sure either with Finn, ofc I'd like to believe it's genuine...
He said in a couple of earlier videos that if you liked Babymetal you're a PDF file who fetishizes Asian women, so even the clip you showed was him walking things back a little. I mean, the PDF file thing was probably a joke, but the thing about saying BM fans fetishize Asian women wasn't. He went from "You're a PDF file downloader who only likes BM because they're Japanese schoolgirls and you have an unhealthy fetish for Asians" to "Well this music is well written but not for me and you're not a PDF file downloader but you just like them because they're good looking" to "I'm a fan" and his reason is because "Oh well, I heard their music at a music store while on a honeymoon and became a fan" which doesn't check out because he's already listened to a number of their songs by now and I'd think if he liked their music, he'd have become a fan sooner.
I didn't like them at first either, but I wrote them off without really listening to their music. It was only when I actually listened to it later that I started to like it. I don't think he's being honest here, but whatever. I know he's got a son on the raise and bills to pay, so I won't give him too much flak for it.
I’m just speculating, will see what he says on his other channel. But for now. I just think Finn is a harmless grifter, probably fucked up, has insecurities of his own, and made the mistake of catering to the wrong crowd (IDZ) not realising that within a year, Babymetal would be making themselves comfortable once again on the UA-cam throne. I think he is honest this time about his (closet) interest in BM but chose to bring it up now because the fate of his channel lies in the balance and he probably recognises that BM are about to be making some huge power moves and is deciding to jump on the train now while he still has the opportunity.
But I might just be giving the dude too
much credit. He is a business mind like me and sounds like he has helped a lot of people make UA-cam channels so I doubt the guy is an idiot.
@@jaegermeister798 Meh. I don't like rewarding dishonesty, simple as.
I appreciate how you at Dicodec have stayed focused on the music, the energy, and the joy found in BabyMetal. In my memory, I have only two memories of you commenting on how the women look (who WOULDN'T want to see Moa's smile?), and I never felt it to be inappropriate. Yes, they are attractive, and that helps them, for sure. But there are many attractive women performers out there, none of whom make me smile at all, while the energy and joy coming from Momo/Su/Moa/Yui simply cannot be missed. They are smile-inducing beings. I have also always been grateful that Koba has clearly chosen NOT to sexualize them. Their dresses are elegant and dramatic. When they were girls, their Tutus were cute and fun, not sexy.
I listened to Babymetal for like 5 years before I found out they had these videos online. Friend from Japan slipped the cd into the deck in my car and that was that for me.
From the title of his video it seems like Finn wanted to make something controversial. He touches on the points that some naysayers would use and then basically said they don’t matter “anymore” but I think a lot of people would say none of that stuff ever mattered. So, in the end a much ado about nothing, he may have strong opinions but he’s never going to say them on the internet and I’m not going to assume if he has them or not.
This guy’s a fool!
Dude is done for me since i saw that video, good for him if he enjoy BM now and he's fan, Fox God bless him but i pass.
What an absolute grifter.
If you dont know, he did the exact same thing with black metal and walked back everything. He's been clowned on by extreme metal circles for ages for being basically a metal keemstar. There is a lot of history with it of how inconsistent he is and how he is quite simply doing it for clicks
I mean Finn says people wouldn’t feel the same about Western women in a band that people don’t particularly find attractive and what’s funny is that’s exactly what I do with Kittie. I love their music and have listened to them since their debut single “Brackish”. I’m not saying unattractive to the general public, it’s just to me personally but I still jam the hell out of their tunes. He just does and says edgy things for views but his chat swallows it all up and spew dumb toxic rhetoric consistently. I refuse to believe the chat is filled with self-referential trolls just being “ironic”. I’ve seen the same in too many other chats to be convinced otherwise. It’s mostly why I just don’t care for Twitch enough to watch anymore. I’m sorry for going off on a tangent🤣
Who follows this guy?
Maybe his Vietnamese wife was watching him make this video.
I'd have to go back and watch that first video, then this. It's been a while, but from what I remember, this doesn't sound that different from what he said before. But I could be wrong.
I still disagree with the idea that the only way one could like music from Japan is because of some fetish. Yes, I am sure that applies to some people, but painting everyone with the same brush would be wrong.
I am an 80s/90s style punk rock and hip-hop/rap listener for the most part. So yeah, I like what I have heard from Otoboke Beaver, Shonen Knife, and Dizzy Sunfist. But I heard them before I ever saw them. I had no clue where they were from.
Outside those, I like some Band-Maid. I hear some punk in several songs, but they do have some that I don't hear any punk in and still like. And I dig Atarashii Gakko (especially when they throw in some hip-hop). With those two groups, I much prefer the live videos I have seen of them (official or fancams) as they seem to be having a blast performing. And I find that infectious. And I wouldn't even know of either of them if it wasn't for random reaction channels autoplaying into one of their songs.
If I am being honest regarding Finn's first video, for all the sample songs he used, I would instantly change the station if they came on the radio-even Band-Maid. No matter where they were from. So I guess it's good Thrill wasn't the first thing I heard.
I love BABYMETAL because girls try to out macho the guys in the metal scene and it looks too tryhardish (I know its not a word) but they created a genre where the girly girls can still be girly and metal at the same time! I love me a shredding metal song but I also love hyper girly pop music. So when BABYMETAL came along, my brain EXPLODED! Also, this guy is weird, lol. His assumptions are "eh"
Thank you Diodec for always having the girl's back🖤
I wasn't sure whether or not to watch the PMBA vid, so I was glad to see video from Alan about this. I remember when Billy the Babymetal Hater (best remembered as the guy who posted a 9 or 10 minute crying fit about how Babymetal was destroying metal) posted a retraction where I thought he was pretty genuine and humble about being wrong about them, and actually ended up liking their music. FMcG - as others have said - just seems like a guy who likes to rage bait until it's inconvenient. I have no idea how to check YTers analytics, but I wonder if slamming fans of Japanese music so continuously made him take a hit in views and likes and whatnot.
I don't care what he thinks. I just know i love the girls and their music
In zheory yes, Sakura FKuin girls had at least zheir agents at their sides who rhey could trust, but the problem is already even Su was alread checked. For each member of the Karen Girls were already testen for their voice acting capabilities. They made for each if the girls their own characters, if they were goidvthese characters would become bigger roles, if not then the characters would disappear. And even these girls were better prottected then all the idols zhat were working ib countless vars where tey sang from backup tapes.
These are the points when you start tovrealize what it meant if Koba devided that he would only tell them the truth
In a way this lead to the reason why he cruvified Su in Legend 1997. He simply remembered this old information that the girls weren't really interested in their position as an idol. It simply is significant zhat an older Stagehand simply earns more money since he is older. Itnis simply expected that he knows more.
Well the idol industry is confusing and in fact was a danger escpecially for girls. But with Kingslayer and Leave it all behind they have reached totally new levels.
They have never been in danger, if anything they are a lot safer than other girls their age
@@chrisharris1522 Yes and no. The big Problem of the idol industry is zhe prove oressure. You know how weird the idol industry is, if you see 15vseiyuus ( japanese voice actresses of the japanese Anime industry start to fight for the Single male voice actor. And then you are pretty fast in the not so Well known industry secrets. Do you know why so many girls want to become idols while no one wants be an idol? You are normally payed by age. The older you are the less .oney you earn. In many partsvit is so weird that if you are twenty you normally get bundles. If you reach this stage the probability is high that yo will end your career in the adult Entertainment industry. The Sakura Gakuin girls were already stagesvabove zhe problems of normal idols. Zhe talent agency Amuse is Well known in the whole industry they give you valid advise. So Su , Yui and Moa always heard from Amuse that Koba's plan's were normally not validly financed. But he had his own ideas likevI don't care about the minimal Qualifikation Model that was behind Sakura Gskuin. Koba had o problem with the q.5 year age difference between Su, Yui and Moa. That was one of the reasons why he was fighting for them like a lion, He wsnted to Qualifying Su forbseveral levels on the stage, she or better he needed these Qualifikations. She had to know what these different peoples were doingbin thr background
Great reaction, your doing a great job of identifying them. I'm embarrassed by how long it took me to be able to reliably tell young Yui and Moa apart
lol So fast man
I was practicing for my gig when this gem popped up lol
@@Dicodec Again dude misspelled it was Pooped out :D
@@marekbarycz4397 truuuuueeee
I get what you are saying, but to defend Finn for a moment, his two channels the punk rock NBA and the finn show are two different things. the NBA one is a bit more serious and analytical, perhaps even more objective. Where the Finn ones hes fucking around and taking the piss out of this and that. Its part actual opinion and part getting a rise out of the audience. The new video today, i dont think its disingenuous. Doesnt matter if it is either, its a fairly good summary. If someone comes across the video, i dont think they will be taken for a ride.
He did talk shit about Bandmaid, i believe also Fear and loathing in las vegas. Meh, whatever.
But lets be real, pretty japanese girls do help get their foot in the door. Quality music will retain the audience. Objectively speaking Moa turned out to be very gorgeous.
I am one of the few BM fans who found his takes infuriating but I also advocate for the guy to. He has a business and he had a huge fuck up starting with Babymetal in that Poppy/BM video. I hope good things will come of this video and Finn might be motivated to “cater” to a less toxic crowd that will bring in new content. Whether you like the guy or not, he is going to drive up traffic and conversations around BM and that’s all I ultimately care about.
I know he took a crap on people who are fans of Babymetal and band maid. But I guess first of all he doesn't understand the culture over there even though he's claimed in video year ago that he has been there. I know a lot of people I work with don't understand the culture. I have taken several trips over there and I was stationed at Atsugi i for 2 years. But a lot of us who are musicians like the music regardless of whether there's videos or not some of us actually have to work for a living and drive a huge garbage truck so I have to listen to the music not watch it. The fact that they're taking modern heavy metal and hard rock and adding things like Hiroshi scale to it is totally remarkable considering it's refreshing to hear something different than the stale Hard Rock and metal scene that has not changed in the last 20 years. And yeah anybody who is a nu metal fan he's not a fan of that music either
I also share some critics from BM, I mean I really like OG BM best lineup probably the golden era of BM. Think new BM wasn't for me though.
It mostly comes from western missunderstanding. Some people will get it , some won't. I just love happiness that Babymetal oozes of. I listen to it and I am happy. I watch them and I Am even more happy. This guy needs to go outside of his country and understand other cultures, preferably to Japan to understand that we as westerners are not always right. I can't understand people who are so much in to being a fan of metal that everything out of their taste must be bad. How can you even judge music? I like it you not, thats it. Is color red bad because I like it and somebody else does not.
I am sure guy is just driving it to get some more clicks.
I couldn't finish watching that guy's video. All the insults and misinformation was driving me crazy.
Well, you only had to look at Moa's reaction. Normally they always complained about gatekeepers and thst they are not respected. Now you didn't hear anything. Any agent would kill his charges for words against Babymetal. They have proven that they can be free meal Tickets.. they have their own music, they have their own fandom. Any cooperation with them might move many people.
YES! It is absolutely impossible to underestimate the uniqueness of BABYMETAL, or the talent of Su-METAL, or the talents of musicians and the production genius of Koba-METAL. Impossible. Because it will be like a pathetic attempt to scratch the ice of Antarctica with a nail. My humble opinion.
He doesn't understand the creative strategy Koba is using with the lore and the type of creative music he can create using the lore. There is a certain level of understanding to 'get' Babymetal, and he just doesn't get it. He is too...how do I say it...set in the way albums should be set up and done. So in effect, that video IS saying he is still set in his ways and maybe after his initial reaction, he is slowly learning how the Japanese creative thinking process is. And here is my comment about him saying if this were a western band, would it be just as popular. Probably not, because western music labels aren't creative enough to take a chance on something like this. All they want is something that is a sure fire to make them money. The japanese music industry is not the same, heck, their whole entertainment industry is geared towards the art, not always the money.
Anyways, I took it with a grain of salt, as maybe it's his way of trying to recover from that initial reaction. People are gonna love Babymetal in their own way and in their own time. People are gonna hate Babymetal in their own way and in their own time. I think he hates it that Babymetal is doing things no other band has or can do. I think a bit of jealousy is in there, maybe because his favorite bands aren't as popular as Babymetal. Who knows. His tone comes off as a reluctant fan, always trying to explain away why Babymetal attracts people.
How I feel about it? I feel he is just trying to appease BM fans. But he didn't do a good job of it.
You have great content, Alan, and always fun to watch your videos. Thanks again for your insight.
they could be making a lot more money than they are, I can never get a t-shirt because they always sell out the same day they release them if they wanted to make more money they can just not do the limited runs on all their merch
@@chrisharris1522 exactly right. Japanese businesses don't like to keep inventory because storage space is a premium and expensive. So they only produce enough to ensure they sell everything. Then if there is continued demand, they will produce another limited lot to sell. That's why their Blu-rays always have several waves of lots created at a time.
If he thinks of babymetal fans that way maybe he himself is the problem cause there is barely anyone that thinks that way lol
The other video was taken from his livestream and posted on his other channel. In his livestream he likes to troll the audience, make fun of metal fans, and just be sarcastic all the time. He himself said on the stream that everything he says on the streaam is a joke and should not be taken seriously. This new video is on the Punk Rock MBA channel where he presents more polished and carefully crafted videos which supposedly are meant to be taken more seriously.
Ahhh ok I get that but man I thought I was good at picking up on sarcasm. I definitely thought he was being sarcastic but at other times it really doesn’t seem like that.
@@Dicodec I'm sure he toned down and cleaned up his statements on the new video. It's hard to tell what he really thinks.
I mean I think they're pretty, but just because someone is pretty doesn't mean I want to have sex with them. It is a kind of mentality. Some people can't separate pretty from sex. I don't know why. Issues I guess. I liked them originally because I thought it was a great concept. Also I liked k-pop and metal already so that helped.
And even if I wanted to have sex with someone, I don't think that's wrong if we're all adults. As long as you realize they're humans and not objects. There's nothing wrong with sex in and of itself, and there's nothing wrong with liking someone because they're pretty. Unless they're bad people but that's different.
I don't think anyone would deny that the ladies of BlackPink are hot, and they're Asian, but I am not a fan as I don't care for their style of music. It's all projection.
At this current moment it is my opinion that Finn Mckenty is a grift. But sense this is over something as inconsequential like music (as opposed to something like politics for example), I can look past that if they do a good hustle. Others have said though, the Punk Rock MBA is a more “objective” focused channel of his and is meant to present an accurate overview of bands and the music scene. So if he is “bad” at his grift and reports something inaccurate, people will call him out which is what happened during his Babymetal/Poppy video, to which he proceeded to drop the ball even harder with following videos. A lot of people across the metal community don’t like the guy. But you can’t deny him deciding to make this video will ultimately result in good. Will see what Finn has to say on his other channel if the conversation comes up, but as far as a Punk Rock MBA video, he did a pretty good job. He went into better detail than I would have originally expected and even brought in some honestly good references from the fanbase. I cannot deny it was a well researched and professionally made video personal feelings aside.
I will give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
I see Babymetal disbanding, but not as a break up, but as a way to grow up. Here's why.
Momo is older than Miko (Metalverse), has J-Pop and K-Pop experience, already is in Babymetal and her english is fluent, giving her an edge when dealing with overseas' media. Babymetal's interview at Sick Sick World is proof of that. I said that in a more elaborated way, but it's pretty much that.
Miko already has star power, she flirts with her eyes and already performs as something different than the other girls, that are only dancers, as far as I know. It's gonna be interesting to join Babymetal at Momo's side, after Su and Moa went solo in proper time. I actually see Su going solo, and Moa recruiting an all-female band.
Considering the girls in Babymetal are not babies anymore (Momo is 21, Su is 26 and Moa is 24), and the wheel (Idol projects inside Amuze Entertainment) needs to keep spinning, what makes more sense at least to me, both business and music wise, is this: Current Babymetal formation turning into 3 different projects (Su's solo career, Moa's band and Momo fronting Babymetal, with Miko and another girl by her side. They're probably gonna draft her from Sakura Gakuin, too. And another girl fronting Metalverse after Miko joins Babymetal.)
I see no beef on the disbanding of the current main trio, and the transition to a new one going as smoothly as possible, with a lot of Miko features. Western fans already got familiar with the way idol industry works, and they will understand. Matter of fact, a lot of Metalverse fans are already Babymetal fans, and they're eager to see how things are gonna work out.
I don't wanna see Babymetal breaking up, but I do wanna see Kawaii Metal to grow as a genre.
I don't think BABYMETAL will disband anytime soon, they are putting way too much effort into collabs that are high profile. To me that means they are trying to expand their reach. I do get what you are saying though, maybe they will do a slight name change down the line, but that would destroy brand recognition. Who knows though.
@@Dicodec yeah. Who knows? But this is probably something to generate at least some debates.
Amuze has the money and structure to put everything together as I described, to do something completely different or to keep things as they are.
Either way, I will accept everything Koba-Metal delivers, no matter what. He's doing the right thing for 10+ years.
I disagree on the disbandment idea, at least not anytime soon. Let's look at the facts:
1). The name: ベビーメタル (Bebīmetaru, Babymetal) is just a play on words with ヘビーメタル (Hebīmetaru, Heavymetal). Nothing to do with their age when they started, and refers to the birth of a new metal. And there is weight in that name at the moment, so I doubt they'll change it.
2). Su, Moa, and Momo just became an official trio and spent the entirety of last year on tour together, and their chemistry is better than ever.
3). They had an opportunity to disband during their hiatus, Su-metal even spoke about the thought of this (which I believe Alan covered some time ago), but she and Moa decided to continue forward.
4). Moa herself has stated that she has no desire to take lead.
5). Babymetal today is very established, broken through all the "nay-sayers" and has had their most intense touring year. Given the gals are in their early to mid-20s, and in their prime (both in age and popularity) it makes zero business sense to disband them. This is the time where Amuse can truly make all the money from Babymetal after a decade of hardwork to get them there.
6). It will make much more sense to let Miko front her own group, and develop that along side Babyemtal.
7). This would be a much better argument 5 to 10 years from now, when Su's in her 30s, and most likely seriously thinking of starting a family, and needs to scale back activities.
Just my 2-cents, but as the saying goes, OTFGK lol.
@@Ganimal83 Your cents are as valid as mine. I'm giving and taking, and that'sfine by me.
And I guess I didn't express myself properly, but poorly explained later. I don't mean to actually disband the project.
But I do see them in a few years going on different projects, and also Babymetal as a band still going.
They can either focus on the current formation (kepping things as they are, with Su, Moa, Momo and the band going as strong as ever)
Or focus on the main idea behind the music (keepíng the things kawaii, young and full of energy, with that maiko charm of kids singing about kids stuff)
Either way they're destined to greatness on a global level.
@@vernonharrison4832 I surely hope Amuze allows them to do so.
he's just bullshit. I like babymetal,
1. I like the music
2. I like the stage layout
3. I like the way SUZUKA sings
4. I like the sound of the back singer and the backing track (the scream or growl part) which is not too overacting in my opinion
and many more.
People saying you listen to a group because they are cute are fk morons...
I mean, I have AUDIO TRACKS on my phone, so what the hell cuteness has to do with that?
I can't see them through an audio
I like Finn. Don't care what he thinks about J-rock.
Some of babymetals songs actually slap. Also those girls are in their mid 20s so whatever. But honestly the choreography and fact that the girls are just idols singing what their told with no actual attachment tothe music makes me kinda hate it...
The girls have writing credits to couple of their songs and they have said in interviews that Su-metal especially has some input in how certain songs should sound like so no they are not writing the music themselves but it's also not like they have nothing to do with the songwriting and have no attachment to the songs they make. You really can't be a part of a project for almost 15 years and have zero attachment to the stuff you perform.
Babymetal aren't just idols. They are now international metal performers. Adding the word 'just' before describing something is a way of trying to reframe something in a more simpler way to make a following criticism seem more valid. The girls aren't pop performers they give 110% in live gigs.
Why would you hate something for such little reason anyway? The London symphony orchestra don't write the music they play. Pavarotti didn't write Nessun Dorma.
Also they have music written for THEM rather than just doing cover versions of songs not written for them which makes the artistic ownership of the song theirs, it's what the writer intended.
The writer wants credit but usually will never perform it themselves, because they have gifted it to someone else to make it their own.
I'm not telling you what to like BTW. Just questioning this idea of not liking something because a certain condition hasn't been met.
Sorry, but this is bullshit. Koba was not so stupid , he made surevthatvhis girls knew he was fascinated by it. He showed them wherecand ehy hecadded and implemented certain motives. In fact we know that 3spevially Moacis exzremly interestedvin metal, New motives and so on. She spends her free time with listening to metal, sure this might be isefull at a latervdate when she can intervonnect certain bands with their songs. Butvfor her a big motive for her Ambition is, to show other girls their way into metal. And we know that especially for her the restart of Babymetal was extremly intetesting. Suddenly they had bigger and bigger numbers of children in their concerts. Especially in yjapan they had observed that they suddenly attracted huge numbers of female Fans. You might Notizen thst comparedcto othercgroups they are wearing extremly conservative Outfits. The simple reason is, they like it if their fans Co.e costumTed as Babymetal. Due ro their conservative Outfits their fans dont have so many worries to wear it on the Streit. And now they found so many childre in their audience because mommy and daddy are Babymetal Fans. So they grew up with Babymetal misic and so they don't feel frightened by them. And you have no idea howvtheyvwork their smaller venues. Moa and Momo havevadditional purposes. Audience intera tion. They startcslowöy, but at the end of zhe show you start to sing for your life. When they are finished you are also finished. This is something you don't feel in normal metal concerts
And you have no idea how many female fans they have. Pur devurity was quite worried if they had enough female staffvat hand. Your ideas about udols don't work with female fans.