Real Lawyer vs. Movie Lawyer | Lawyer Reacts to A Few Good Men, 12 Angry Men, & Erin Brockovich
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I get asked a lot about whether being a practicing attorney is like being a lawyer on TV. Like most people, I love watching legal movies and courtroom dramas. It's one of the reasons I decided to become a lawyer. But sometimes they make me want to pull my hair out because they are ridiculous.
Today I'm taking a break from teaching law students how to kick ass in law school. This one is just for fun.
In this video I tackle some of the most famous courtroom scenes in Hollywood history including A Few Good Men, 12 Angry Men, The Dark Knight, and Erin Brockovich. Great dramas, but BAD lawyering. They are preposterous, but I still love watching them.
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Review Drop Dead Diva!!! :D
i'd like to see ya review some episodes of the TV series "Bull" if ya don't mind?
I'd love to see your opinions on the movie From the Hip.
you should tacke the "Exorcism of Emily Rose". one of the most interesting law dramas i've seen
One correction. It was Henry Fonda in 12 Angry Men. Henry was the father of Jane and Peter Fonda.
My favorite thing about 12 angry Men is that, no matter whether or not it's legally sound or whatever, it managed to create an incredibly compelling drama that had me glued to the edge of my seat for like an hour and half, with nothing but 12 guys in a room having a debate. Excellent writing and cinematography and acting
...and that also leads to a lower production budget!
Six Angry Guys
I like the characters to. How even the most stubborn people can eventually be convinced. Like the juror who has the octagonal glasses, I remember winston saying "What can you do against the lunatic who is smarter than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and persists in his lunacy", all you can do is keep giving them, and hope he listens, which luckily he did.
Not allowed to yell in court..... Well there goes every law movie ever
except To Kill a Mockingbird
Getting to yell in court was the whole reason I applied to law school. There goes that career...
@@heartandtroll9993 you could hypothetically yell during a closing argument. If you notice, he said something like "you won't see yelling LIKE THAT in court".
Edit: capitalization for emphasis
If you can’t stand up in the middle of the court room, point your finger straight at the prosecution and yell “OBJECTION!” Then really what’s the point of being a lawyer?
@@DavidHackGomez95 you don't have to use caps for emphasis, just put asterisks on either side of the emphatic phrase to make it *bold.*
I was in a production of "12 Angry Men". Sadly, the production budget would only allow for 6 jurors. So we had to be twice as angry.
6 REALLY angry men
6 irate chaps
Thankfully my play had 12 ppl. It was really fun tho
Thank you so much for taking part of making an amazing movie. Still one of the movies that help spark interest in law for me
And since the jury was divided among 3 genders, the 2 remaining men had to be a total of 6x times as angry.
I wanna say that everyone should see 12 Angry Men, it is a fantastic movie, easily worth spending the time to watch it in it's entirety and maybe even a second watching to see the beautiful irony of each scene.
There was a remake with De Niro. I prefer the black and white personally.
and it's Henry Fonda not Peter
It's a great great movie indeed.
I've seen it several times over the years. I prefer the black and white version too.
@@mikegarza8648
No, there wasn't. De Niro wasn't in the 1997 remake. That one was a made for TV version with Jack Lemmon and George C Scott as Jurors 8 and 3, respectively. I think both versions are fantastic, and have their pros and cons.
Objection: You didn't play the line "You can't handle the truth!"
in hes defense nobody can handle the truth of what the military do so it was a fare statement an not applicable to the case.
@@ridanann Nah, it was Jessep's cowardice and inability to take responsibility for causing the death of a Marine under his command.
@@VideoMask93 u form an base level opinion becoz u cant form the roof lol
@@ridanann Wat.
@@VideoMask93 u cant mandible the tooth lol
A good lawyer knows the law
A great lawyer knows the judge
My lawyer's first priority is preventing himself from being charged.
His second priority is keeping me from being charged... And I'm fine with that.
And a world-class attorney knows the law, the judge, has the rhetorical skill of Cicero, and an understanding of the human condition of C.S. Lewis.
The Supreme court has ruled anyone can practice the law and no state can license it yet the BAR association (a lawyers union no different then a middle ages masons guild) has crafted legislation in direct contradiction with both Common law and the Constitution.
@@WBush-uc9pe he must not be a very good battery...
Actually It's Denny Crane of Crane, Poole, & Schmidt.
If a man with a lower jaw like you would have told me he was threatened with a gun in court and punched the guy I'd believe every word.
I saw the scar on his jaw and was sort of ready to buy it...but it'd be all over the news if it had happened.
He looks like a guy that would do that, real manly man.
He got me
Yeah more outragrous court things have happened before barely anyone heard of lol
I actually believed him at first.
Am I the only one who has no intention of being a lawyer or is in any way related to the profession but still watches his videos and pays attention to his legal expertise?
Same. And on top of that I'm from a country with a completely different legal system
LaMorito what country and how is the legal system there?
Same. And also I'm from Finland. It's a different legal system as well. But alot of these rules and laws are still followed, since mostly they are just logical. Only sometimes I notice something that is really fundamentally different. Like indeed the duty to help when someone is in danger, and you clearly can help.
yes it's still interesting
@@aliyah2393 I'm from Colombia...it has issues
This was a random video suggestion but I loved it
@Teilyn me neither but I feel better for knowing it for some reason lol
Same here.
Ditto
same and same....
Same!!
OBJECTION! You can't just say you punched a witness and not give details!
At least he didn’t get acid thrown on his face like in the comics.
Overruled!
I think he was trying to be sarcastic. I was thinking that he was serious my first briefing too, until I thought how in the world a gu could sneak a gun into court. The fact that this is representation of court in media must have been so obviously fake to him that he thought he didn't have to comment on it, just make a joke, but little did he know that we are so ignorant of actual court that some of us took it seriously. Lol
And then I unpaused and heard the, "I'm kidding," very quietly. Lol
I wondered: If that DID happen, would you get in trouble for punching the witness?
How many people believed him for a second when he said he did the same thing Harvey Dent did in court?
At first I was like nah then the pause I'm like oh shit he did, then he said jk I'm like aw
@@RollerDerbyHigh my exact reaction
Yeah had to downvote for that clickbait... was hoping for a juicy story... he also didn't comment on the scene itself... FAIL
I wasn't sure but I knew how he worked in civil cases not criminal law
@@RollerDerbyHigh that was a roller coaster of emotions and I liked it
this man should win every case. based alone on that amazing jaw.
The fact he liked this comment has me dying😂😂😂😂
Ray Rice Ever hung out with a lawyer? A lot of trial lawyers are funny as hell.
I've no doubt that it certainly helps.
a jawyer basically
4 20th like
So, Real Lawyer vs Reel Lawyer?
Ahh, I see what you did there.
Well done sir.
A+
Excelente.
Top marks.
D. James Stone:
“I have never once seen a witness admit to the crime or the civil act that they are accused of on the witness stand.”
He must have never played a single case of Ace Attorney then.😀
So true!! lol
But Ace Attorney has also been adapted into an anime, so he could watch that as well ^^ Maybe make a comparison if they have improved anything?
The thing about Ace Attorney though is that it’s based of of the Japanese court system.
@@Hoshi-Hana There's also a live action movie.
@@Compucles Really? :D Nice!!!
Has anyone told you you have a very angled, superhero-like jawline? I expect him to leave the courtroom, rip his shirt open and fly off to the next case.
Little known fact, he is actually blind so he has no idea about his jawline compared to superheroes.
However, he seems to navigate somewhat poorly. He keeps falling down stairs and such. Always coming into court with black eyes, bruised knuckles, and various facial lacerations.
@@generalkenobihellothere7389 you're so fucking random lmao.
@@sethkauffman9915 name included
Don’t worry, I got the reference.
Well, there is a famous blind Super Hero who also happens to be a lawyer...
Actually laughed out loud when he made the joke about punching someone in court after they drew a gun on him.
and it was a civil case!
@@gabrieleriva651
PUNS
A lot of crazier stuff had happened in court, so I actually believed him for a moment.
He went back to watching the clip, so i was like.. how can you just flaunt over that.. i want backstory shees.. then he told us it was a joke 😂
OBJECTION: HENRY Fonda is in 12 Angry Men, not Peter Fonda (sorry if this has been brought up before)
Just seeing this, but yep. Peter Fonda is famous for "Easy Rider" and "Ulee's Gold". Not "Twelve Angry Men".
Henry Fonda > Peter Fonda.
He's not a very good student of films and actors if he confused the father with the son.
LOL I picked that out also....
@@nolanboles8492would be worse if he mixed up with the daughter
I like how he keeps telling us lawyers are "never going to have a Perry Mason" moment and then the lawyer in the Alex Jones case actually got to have a Perry Mason moment. Glorious. We all should go watch that again.
I actually believed him when he said he punched a witness in court!
... darn lawyers can lie right in my face and I believe them :/
That is literally their job
@@michaeladams3762 not lie, convince.
LegalEagle to play Two Face in the next Batman film?
ArduinoBen Convincing is a necessary part of lying.
would it be legal to punch the witness in such a situation? id guess it is a act of self defense?
5 seconds in the video: "...and I also punched the witness."
Me: "I like this guy already."
I like that he said that with a straight face. I ALMOST believed him.
@@melanie.notmel Yep, his training in lies and deception is complete. 😄
I did not *technically* believe him. I simply chose to believe him.
Though if that actually would happen in court, I think it would be justified to punch the witness.
@@noahcarroll4944 I don't know what to think, but I sure hope it would be.
"I keep forgetting you were sick the day they taught law at law school." I love that line. I use it all the time just insert whatever job fits the bill.
Objection for A Few Good Men... It's military trial, not civilian trail. There are different standards, in some ways. First and foremost, guilty until proven innocent. I know from experience.
Exactly, UCMJ is VERY different than civilian law
Military trials allow you to go buck wild?
@@mscoash
Buck wild
Yeah, the UCMJ itself is unconstitutional.
@@xuexxiong Oh yeah I've heard some very nasty things about military tribunals.
I served as foreman on a criminal jury (here in Canada) and it completely changed my perspective on news reports of criminal trials - we tend to judge as outside of observers based on the likelihood that someone committed a crime, but when you need to positively confirm each required element of a crime it gets a lot more complicated. It was a very impactful and life changing experience.
React to Better Call Saul
Yup, he said it. I back it too.
MXXMM third this
React to Chuck on the witness stand! React to the episode "Chicanery"
Yes, the pie scene.
Yes i back it
“That’s hilarious”
Doesn’t crack a smile
the most lawyer thing to happen
I've noticed a lot of americans tend to do that. I don't get it at all, if it's that hilarious, just laugh..
I do that as well sometimes.
It's more a statement of quality, and sometimes I'm not laughing even though it's hilarious because I don't want to drown out the epic hilariousness of it.
@@w1ck3ds1ck It's like acknowledging the quality of the humor even though you personally don't find it funny enough to laugh at.
@@Monkeynuts502 If that's the case then why say anything at all? You don't have to always let everybody know what your opinion is.. I just find it to be pointless and annoying, that's all.
I am not a law school student and I don't know how I ended up getting this video recommended to me, but this was incredibly interesting. I definitely want to see more like these. In fact, an episode-by-episode review of Suits would be amazing.
Agreed. The fact that they don't seem to have a specialty is especially amusing.
Facts!
Objection! I just watched Suits last episode of 9th season.
But then again, I'm actually thinking about rewatching it, so, if this real lawyer would follow your suggestion, count me in. Watching the series and these videos in parallel, yes, it would be so much fun!
As a law student I have been eager to see a lawyer's outlook on legal dramas, just to show the vast contrast between fictional and real law. Maybe analyse a scene of 'Suits' in the next video?
Thank you kind sir.
Glad you liked it. I've never seen a full episode of Suits. Will have to give that a look.
YESSSS. great show. it'd be fun to see how it lines up with reality! :)
LegalEagle Suits is okay. I feel the Good Wife has great, well written dialogue. You will likely enjoy both.
It's an awesome show, but maybe not great for the legal things. Would be cool to see.
So cool Love the Tube!
*stabs knife in table*
Juror: that's mahogany!
@Eamonn Deane hunger games
break it down are you kidding me? It's hand carved mahogany..
Hand-crafted by prison inmates!
zombiepixlez gamer at least it’s not cocobolo
zombiepixlez gamer You killed me with this reference😂
I was a reporter who covered the court system in Iowa, and I remember one of the admonitions the jurors were given was never visit any of the locations discussed at trial. To my knowledge, nobody ever did, but I keep thinking about the mistrial that would have caused if it were discovered jurors had gone to the scene of the incident.
I'm just curious, why are they not allowed to go to the scene of the crime or any of the locations concerning the trial?
@@beno1996ac #1, it's trespassing. They can't be on someone's property without their permission. And #2, there's the potential that it could taint the scene. Also it's as if you're investigating the case yourself, which isn't fair to the defendant.
@@amwfan88 Honestly, it's not really fair to either side, is it? Investigating for yourself circumvents the process of entering evidence and all the regulations put on evidence to try to keep the trial fair. the jury is only supposed to be a finder of facts (not finder of evidence)
@@Twisted_Code That's true as well.
That's right. There is a case being tried again now because a member of the old jury took pictures of the crime scene to share with his peers during trial.
I feel like if UA-cam ever tried to copyright strike you, they would lose. Instantly.
If they ever do, could you make a rebuttal video to help other channels out?
Harrison Ressler You can watch the H3H3 videos about their lawsuit to see how that goes when the content is being used properly under fair use. I would recommend the video where the first mention they’re being sued, I think it’s called “We’re being sued!” and then the video where they talk about winning their case, I forgot what that one was called but it was probably something like “We won!” In fact, in some, I’ve noticed it on at least one, of the videos on this channel you can see in the description box it’ll say that he’s using the copyrighted content under fair use and then he cites some rulings, including the H3H3 ruling. But I don’t know how familiar he is with copyright law specifically but it certainly would be interesting if he did ever have to go to court for a copyright case over a false claim of infringement. Though since he uses movie and tv clips in videos like these, I would imagine he would be up against some very expensive lawyers representing the companies who own the rights to the movies and shows.
@@CrippledMerc none of them sue youtubers, they simply make a claim and automatically all revenue from that video belongs to them. Even if the youtuber wins the appeal (for which the "owners" of the copyright have 30 days to reply) the potential of the video is gone, since by that time it had most of the views. Then there are copyright strikes where if you get 3 of them they basically just delete your whole channel and you're gone...
The real sad and shitty thing about this is that youtube doesn't even check if the claim is true in any way, there are many youtubers who got their videos demonetized simply by some random "studio" claiming they used 4-5 seconds of their music, even tho they don't hold any rights to it. In other words, youtube has a really shitty policy where they'll throw any content creator under the bus just so they won't have even a chance of having problems with the big boys...
@@MrCrniVrag Someone got a copyrightstrike for showing his own music lol
@@penthactussoul I would not be surprised tbh...
@@penthactussoul theratbrat was it?
I would really enjoy a video dedicated to 12 angry men, definitely a favorite movie
I had to watch that for my poli sci class and we were going into corona quarantine. For a while, all I could think about was that awful towel.
Yeah, it was a brilliantly written movie. It's something you don't see very often in this day and age. I'd love to see it analyzed thoroughly by an actual lawyer.
That short pause of silence before he said "...im kidding." Had me dying XD
Erin Brokovich is one of my favorite films, glad to see it's fairly accurate, especially cause it was based on a true story. The two clips you used are my favorites in the movie, Julia Roberts has so much fire in this film. 😂
Erin herself is still fighting for the masses, although Ed Masrey has since died.
Best line:
There called tits, Ed
I said hi to a lawyer once
He said I was out of order......
and demanded fries with his burger
You're out of order? He is out order! He is out of order! This whole world is out of order! They are out of order!
Shadow Moon - You reminded me of a Comedy Movie where a Crazy Motorcycle Cop is screaming at traffic on the freeway, telling some car from the nearby gas station, “YOU! ...ON THE FREEWAY! ...PULL OVER AND LET ME SEE YOUR LICENSE AND REGISTRATION!
I said hi to a lawyer once and he said hi back.
A couple days later I got a bill in the mail for 93$
Lol
saw a lawyer in front of a broken vending machine once. He said it was out of order
I didn't know Deadpool is a lawyer!
kirby march Barcena no that is two face
kirby march Barcena I see what you did there
PAKTRA PRODUCTIONS no, he meant the guy talking looks like Reynolds. I too thought that while looking at the thumbnail.
I don't think he really looks like him. Also, why would you automatically choose Deadpool lol?
Gosh i'm not the only one then, his twin is a lawyer!
22:25 "So funny story: that actually happened to me and I also punched the witness. I'm kidding."
_Correct, I was there. He grabbed the weapon and pulled the witness into a vicious headbutt that knocked the hostile adolescent unconscious. After that, he highfived the bailiff as the judge swooned and nonchalantly called the next witness._
Then everybody clapped
Actually curious if that happened. But I like a good story
0:50 - Chapter 1 - A few good men
12:40 - Chapter 2 - 12 angry men
15:50 - Chapter 3 - And justice for all
19:35 - Chapter 4 - The dark knight
22:40 - Chapter 5 - Erin brockovich
@4:01 in civilian court yes you can’t be responsible over another’s actions, but the chain of command in the military means non-commissioned subordinates under a commissions officer are solely responsible, which is why Jack Nicholson’s character is getting grilled so hard; he IS responsible for the actions and whereabouts of his men.
Not to mention RICO
"I lay an order and I know everyone would follow that order"
That is what army is, you follow the orders of the person above you, if you refuse to do an order or it turns out you did not do it yea that person will get punished
@@paradoxzee6834 yes but I’m talking about duty of care and legal liability.
LE: "You're never going to see these kind of 'perry mason' moments in court."
Alex Jones: "So, I took that personally."
The funny thing about his joke about also having to take a gun from a witness and punch them is he looks very similar to Aaron Eckhart, who plays two-face LOL
MaLLinz289 haha I was hoping someone else noticed that too. For a few seconds I was so confused after he said that kuz he looks just like him lmao
Are you really currently working a full time Lawyer career, recording, editing, and managing a UA-cam channel, all while maintaining that, "slightly older, salt and pepper but more handsome Harvey Dent from the Black Knight" look all at the same time? If so, I think I just became convinced energy and willpower vampires exist.
Well, there's these wonderful people called assistants who can do those things for him.
I mean, he's been a lawyer for 10 years, and he seems like a pretty smart guy, so I'm sure he has the funds and brains to just hire an editor for these things :P
@@megamage911 Or he has the funs to hire people to help him with his job so he can do this as a hobby
I'm sure he pays someone to edit his videos
im a full time college student and i can film edit and upload a video in like a day if i have to! it is a lot of work but definitely viable as a hobby for any profession
Just so you are aware, "A Few Good Men" is a fictionalized account of an actual event. One of the two accused marines tried to sue the movie studio to get some money claiming it was his story in 1993(?).
I had never heard this and I love this movie. great to know, thank you.
The story is messed up. They murdered a guy for reporting illegal things they were doing and none of them got even a month in prison.
That's a bloody nice suit!
That a nice _bloody_ suit!
He's also got a bloody nice face!
CommentCop Badge#666, yeah, I know! I got a good jaw but that thing is a god level jaw.
It's a law suit
Objection! That was Henry Fonda in 12 Angry Men, not Peter.
FourthDerivative - nor was it Jane
Damn, what a stud. This guy looks like a movie lawyer.
Look like the guy on -Ant Man
Money will do that
My father and I were watching the OJ simpson trial live back in the day. He had 35 years as a prosecutor and criminal defense attorney experience at that point, simply said "Good attorneys (like OJs attorneys) go to court and get their client off. Great attorneys, make sure their client never goes to court on the first place".
OBJECTION!
Badgering the witness doesn’t involve badgers??
No unless you are talking about a Honey Badger, which is actually more related to the Canadian Wolverine than the gentle Giant European Badger.
I know, what's up with that? Court sure would be more interesting.
Badgers? Badgers? We doan need no stinking Badgers!
No badgers, but there do often involve bears, vipers, monkeys, and mockingbirds.
I don't go to law school, nor do I have any sort of desire to become a lawyer. However, I find your videos really interesting. Keep up the good work. I've subscribed.
"I have never once seen a witness admit to a crime on the witness stand..." Well yeah, but you never had Colonel Nathan Jessup on the witness stand before did you?!
If someone punches you in court, are you allowed to punch back?
I'd assume you're permitted reasonable force. Just like self-defence anywhere else. If they punch you, and they're in the box, you'd be expected to just step back out of range, since they can't pursue you, and allow the Balif's and the like to deal with restraining them if necessary. If they somehow pulled a gun, you'd be permitted to punch them to get the gun off them.
No, but you can yell "Objection, he moved to strike!"
This devolved into puns and they're incredible
Isn't that the Bailiff's job? Lol
Depends on if you want to be in contempt of court.
I'll admit, I was worried when I saw 'real lawyer reacts to fictional stuff', because tbh, the idea that fiction doesn't portray real life, especially legal systems, all that accurately isn't news. So part of me was just expecting somebody sitting there going 'no, no, no, no' for half an hour, but your Phoenix Wright video turned me around. You explain so many interesting things about legal... stuff, things I was ignorant of, that it's just fascinating to hear you hold forth on why something is inaccurate, and what would be a more accurate version, etc. Really great stuff, good clear presentation even for a layperson like me to take in.
The one that hooked me was the Liar Liar reaction. I guess I found the concept of a lawyer reacting to a guy magically forced to tell the truth to be a funny juxtaposition. Told myself before it started I was only there for that specific segment, since I figured a lawyer was probably boring, but I stayed for the whole video, then I started watching his other reacts and subscribed.
Ah, the 50’s. When you could bring illegal switchblade into court with you.
at least in movies
I've personally seen that happen in the early 2010s in a court of similar authority...
What fascinates me even more as an European is that a switchblade can be illegal in the US. Or is it just illegal in the sense that you are not allowed to bring one into court? ^^
@@Peter_Parker361 they are illegal in most states.
@@Peter_Parker361 They are legal in about 40 of the 50 USA's states, but generally you aren't supposed to bring weapons into government buildings. In the movie's case it seems as though he wasn't supposed to own one, so I would bet it was illegal in that state rather than it just being barred from the court.
I remember writing a critique of 12 Angry Men for a government class, and I brought up the point of Henry Fonda's character bringing new evidence into the jury room. So I was glad you mentioned that.
I would love to watch you react to Drop Dead Diva. My wife watches this thing, and it's got the most mind-numbingly horrendous court scenes ever; but she refused to believe that none of that stuff could ever work.
Minor quibble @ 13:41.
That's not Peter Fonda. It's Henry Fonda.
I really enjoy this channel. These videos are informative and entertaining. Kudos to all involved.
I truly enjoy each and every video you do. The difference with this particular case is that it’s a military tribunal vs a regular trial. While there was much dramatization in this case it is important to recognize the differences. 12 Angry Men is my favorite movie of all time. The version you cover is much better that the 1990s version but it’s good too.
You are exactly right. This past year I had a huge poster of this movie in my office, because the Brigadier General JAG Lawyer (he's been in the White House with several presidents and argued some of the most famous US military court cases) who was the technical legal advisor on this film had two of these posters, one in my office and one in his next to my office. As he shared with me he was on the set several months coaching all of the actors in how to conduct themselves and portray these scenes accurately.
ok so military trial is not the same as civilian trial, unless you have done both, I would suggest attending one to see the differences. Again, this is a military court preceding with the Uniformed Code of Military Justice being the governing document. Asking if someone followed your orders, or in this case believed they followed the orders, is a common question in a Courts Martial. It shows whether or not Jack Nickleson is capable of command and also what sort of command climate he supports. Huge issues because as Tom is trying to pen him in to one of two scenarios; 1 - he is incompetent as a commander and his troops are acting on their own accord which no commander wants to admit and firmly places blame on next in command Kiefer Sutherland ; or 2 - you are the best commander, your orders are always followed, and he gave the order for the "code red" because no one would take orders into their own hands.
Also, yes normally witnesses don't ask questions, in a military court that happens more often.
@@duganj001 were you JAG or did served on a CM? Or just bored enough to read the MCM as a hobby?
During my time in the Navy at one command, I worked with JAG and was present in the courtroom numerous times. I also helped a several sailors out when they had to go to courts martial and gave them info that most of the JAG lawyers don't give to their clients. Most JAG treat the job like a fast food restaurant worker would. I have also been on the stand a few times as a witness.
Thanks for that clarification, makes sense.
@@duganj001 So based on your time in JAG do you think A Few Good Men is accurate.
He brings up a good point in the "12 Angry Men", probably not meaning to do so. When the switchblade was introduced. "A good defense lawyer..." When 75% (US Court figures) of the population is reliant on a defense attorney overloaded beyond belief. How many times, would their lawyer saunter down to a local pawn shop to look for evidence?
I hope they'd check Amazon and ebay for a couple minutes at least.
Too bad there was no e-shopping back in the 60s
Switchblades were only recently illegal, and most extant blades would have been made legally in factories. An average defense lawyer would have pointed this out, and put the burden of proof on the prosecution to show that there were not thousands more in NYC.
This dude looks like he could be John Krasinski's older brother lmao
I just saw A Quiet Place. So I'll take it!
12 Angry Men has always been a favorite movie of mine, thanks for providing a bit more insight on it.
An attorney told Me once that the first thing a person learns in law school is: don't ever ask a question You don't, already, know the answer to.
Is that the case?
Thank You for the good videos.
Ok who else low key wanted to see Suits reviewed on here hahaha
i love Suits!
Seems like he/they did review suits already.
"real lawyer reacts to suits"
Low key? This is why I subscribed. To see how honest Suits was. Er... yeah. Ok. I dont mind they decided to pad the episode with discovery war that shouldn't have happened. not bad otherwise.
He reviewed Suits.. it didnt go well for Suits.. apparently lying to your partners about whether a lawyer can legally be a lawyer isnt good.
Objection: Henry Fonda NOT Peter Fonda
I was like what
16:20 "And he says, 'My client is guilty.' A couple problems with this."
Objection : you looked at a few good man through the US legal system but is it not different from the military justice system? I am a vet and I know that the two systems are different and that both operate differently through different laws and procedures. Could you do a video in the future of the difference and the similarities between theses two legal systems.
This is an excellent point.
I was going to comment on Mr (for lack of actual title) Stone's assessment regarding whether Colonel Jessup knew what was in Lieutenant Kendrick's mind when given the order. The thing about the military is that orders are expected to be obeyed without question (ESPECIALLY with the Marine Corps). It is ingrained in our training. To question an order is tantamount to saying "F you" to a judge, and to disobey an order is to say "I F'd your daughter" to a judge.
So, when Jessup says Kendrick was clear ("crystal") on the order, that was the expectation. There is no room for questioning and disobeying.
I was just about to bring this point up myself. Obeying an order is 100% expected of anyone in military service, and *not* obeying an order is a literal criminal offense as stated in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. What was happening in that scene wasn't to get the witness to speculate, but to establish that the Colonel had no reason to believe that his orders would be disobeyed.
The whole thing with the epic scene between Cruise and Nicholson was that Colonel Jessop was, for all intents and purposes, gravely insulted by literally everything that Lieutenant Kaffee did, said, and represented. Sure, it's an overused trope in TV and movies where the "bad guy" loses it and admits his crime on the stand, but I think the writers and director did such a good job of actually setting up a plausible scenario for exactly that kind of rare event. Kaffee staked his life and career on being able to anger Jessop so much that he'd lose it like this. I could go on to unravel Jessop's seething hate of Kaffee (and lawyers, and the Navy, and anyone less macho than he is), but... well, the movie does that already. It's a central theme of the movie. Jessop did what he did because he hated Private Santiago for being so weak to begin with.
Did Kaffee badger the witness? You bet your ass he did, and the court should have smacked him down for it. Would Jessop's seething hatred come to the surface like that anyway? Why not? He openly shows contempt for Kaffee at every single turn. All Kaffee really needed to do was test his patience enough and, well, exist as a prissy Navy lawyer who's never so much as won an argument, let alone any kind of real fight.
And of course, it's a movie. Everything in it exists for drama's sake. They bend a few rules for that.
I totally get what the movie was setting up (& your very good explanation of it) but any senior ranking officer would see through that & played the jag like a puppet master.
Definitely differences btwn military & civilian court systems (hey, a video request, Mr. Legal Eagle!), and a good Hollywood moment but no O-5 or above would be that foolish.
Well, no competent O-5 pr above.
React to Phoenix Wright.
OBJECTION!
No trial by ambush pretty much rejects the entire game.
holycrapitsachicken Still worth seeing a real lawyer check it out.
As much as I love the Ace Attorney games, doing Phoenix Wright is a terrible idea. I read a lawyer that covered the first game after I finished it, and she mentioned repeatedly that the Japanese court system is very different and sometimes incomprehensible to a Western audience, so it's bad context.
Frostbyte Pretty much. Unless this guy is versed in Japanese law, him reviewing Ace Attorney would be no different than a high school kid reviewing it.
Wait. Your name is D. James Stone? You have a badass name, bro.
Yes it is
Just got this randomly recommended, don't know why but great video.
Objection: prejudicial. "some other murderer" in 12 angry men implies that my client is a murderer and there is just a different one who committed this one.
Is this the how carefully you choose your words in court, counselor?
Debatable. I just watched the original and yes, the boy is -technically- a murderer.
He was found guilty for juvenile murder at the age of 15 and served his time. But given that "the boy" is a young man of 19, his juvy records should be sealed an inadmissible...
So I guess he is a non-murderer who murdered someone?
@@Maninawig see Ed Kemper
Anyone else sad he didn't play out the scene of a few good me when they arrest the colonel. I would have liked to know how realistic that part was.
“When did you stop beating your wife”
“I never beat my *wife* ”
but if there is a moment in the history of the couple where one party smacked the other on film or camera to theoretically kill an insect or as a joke. If that party is trying to downplay the incident as not indicative of abuse and that party tries to be honest they couldn't say that. or if it happened once in the previous week and never before that.
@@lawtonaaj "beating" has a very particular connotation that is apparent to everyone. No one would interpret a playful smack on the arm or an accident caused in the course of killing a bug to be a "beating."
The safest way out of this question is to ask them to define what they mean by beating and then when they give an answer you respond to that.
"Define beating?"
"Hitting or striking"
"Ive never done that."
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE WIFE!
Funny thing: here in Colombia, once the Prosecutor yelled to the witness and the judge, and... noting happened! Even though the judge has the power to arrest him. I think the judge, as an authority, doesn't make respect itself, is a national phenomenon :/
he wasn't the prosecutor but the defense attorney. he was a public defender who was assigned the case through corruption. the whole trial was a shame trial to get the judge, his client, off a 1st degree rape charge.
He should watch Pheonix wright.
Phoenix Wright is the pinnacle of legal legitimacy.
An angry twitter mob is a more balanced and level-headed court than the one from Phoenix Wright, and that fact should terrify you. It probably has fewer physical assaults too!
*Parrot cross-examination intensifies*
Channeling a ghost to appear as a witness is actually a pretty common legal practice
"Ghost that never lies, did you witness the events that took place on that fateful day? You did, Well how interesting. And do you see the culprits or culprits in this courtroom today? You do! Well would you kindly point out him or them out for this court? ...DON'T POINT AT ME YOU JACKASS!"
I'd like to see a Legal Eagle episode that deals with the preparation for the case in A Few Good Men.
12 Angry Men is such an underrated movie
Underrated? It´s the 5th best movie of all time at imdb.com
You know it's good when it's over and you just need to show it to everyone and see if everyone has seen it. Wonderful movie, and remarkably well filmed
The Russians did an interesting remake.
I never got why it’s called “12 angry men”
More like “12 sweaty men, one douche, one devils advocate, shy nerdy type, old man, and one guy pretending to be Atticus Finch”
Wait he should do to kill a mockingbird next!
radbarij very true. Given the whole thing was set during the summer month and the fans were constantly on
"obstreperous witnesses" -- thanks for introducing me to a new word! (it means noisy and difficult to control)
Yea. It's extremely nerve racking to be on the jury and there are some very strict rules. Thanks for taking time to do this :) It was extremely enlightening about some major movies!
I was hoping to become a lawyer and yell 'Objection!!' all the time like Phoenix Wright
You're pretty much halfway there already, the most important thing is to yell "Objection!" at every opportunity even when your own witness answers truthfully or when the judge orders you to put your clothes back on and get down off his bench.
i think the real question here is how often does hollywood ask real lawyers for references and opinion when making this kind of films
only if facts and reality don't get in the way of a good story.
Well, going by his reactions of "This is pretty realistic, but" to quite a few things, I'd say they do a pretty good job with it, then doctor it up with drama to keep it interesting for the average person.
Hollywood producers spend tons of money on experts of all kinds of fields.
Those experts are then almost completely ignored by the Director because reality gets in the way of their cinematic vision.
Philadelphia 1993 one of the best lawyer movies ever. I would love to see you react to it.
Objection: you said the jurors name was Peter Fonda... His name is Henry Fonda
Objection: Henry Fonda.
Objection sustained. Peter Fonda? Really??
Objection: The coin from the Dark Knight is heads on both sides, hence the "I make my own luck" statement. Dent was not leaving the decision up to chance. He was just pretending to do that to flirt with Rachel.
"So funny story that also happened to me in court and I also punched the witness." Lmfao omg my soda almost came out my nose
Please Lawyer Legally Blonde, with Reese Witherspoon!!
"The evidence is circumstantial" is to lawyers what "Yeah, but that's just a theory" is to scientists.
I was at a lecture on evolution by a guest speaker at university that was open to all students and in the Q&A at the end a theology student did the whole "Darwin's Theory of Evolution is still only a theory though; noone's proved it in 150 years". The speaker casually walked over to the 4th floor window, opened it and said "Newton's Gravitational Theory is even older. Care to jump?"
I practice mostly bird law
Well... filibuster.
What about Suits TV series?
That's a great idea. Are there any good episodes that I should react to?
LegalEagle That famous scene between the attorney and the investment banker! 😂
There are many great episodes in the series but lets start with season 1 episode 1. It would be nice if you could explain and analyse the character of Mike Ross and Harvey Specter and to what extent do they depict real life lawyers.
you should take a look at "The Good Wife" too
You should definitely have a look at ep. 14 of season 5, where Harvey cleverly traps the person who is testifying against Harvey's right hand (Mike Ross).
My dream come true - legal analysis of courtroom drama !!! Many thanks !
Had to like on the dude's first line, "I also punched the witness".
"However the judge is not going to allow the attorney and the witness to talk over each other because it's impossible for the stenographer to record two voices at the same time and that simply muddies the record which is the last thing you want because you have to have a pristine record in order to take an appeal from the trial. The record has to be extremely clear."
" Crystal? "
" Crystal. "
What would be cool is if the organic line of questioning ended up like
" So the radio was playing 'why can't we be friends?'..."
" 'Why can't we be friends?' "
" 'why can't we be friends?' "
" Why can,t we be friends was playing on the radio?"
Then there's be an objection of repetitiveness allowing the lawyer to say "I apologize your Honor, I got a little lost. Could the stenographer read the last minute on record please?"
"Not allowed to yell in court."
"OBJECTION!!" There go the Ace Attorney games
Yes, I'm not stupid, I know that those games are not legally accurate since they use a strange legal system and stuff and yadda, 'tis was a joke.
'tis but a joke. 'tis is instead of it is not just it
Its not a "strange legal system", Ace Attorney follows Japan Court even though it takes place in America
They cross-examine a parrot at one point in the Phoenix Wright games.
They’re a bastion of legal authenticity 👍😂
I just noticed how often he blinks and now I can't stop seeing it XD
Dammit. Thanks for that smh
Not just him, literally everyone on tv except the reporters, you’ll never stop seeing it
Thanks, you ruined it for everyone.
It might be because the light from the setting causes his eyes to dry out more often, or he has a dry eye or tear ducts problem so he needs to blink more often to keep them wet
That's cool you picked the 12 Angry Men (Henry Fonda's version) Great job! Lots of fun!
13:41. That’s Henry Fonda. Peter Fonda is his son. Easy Rider, etc.
Do an episode on "Defending yourself in court: Things you need to know"
(for lesser charges)
Scorch428 "I'm asking for a friend..."
He'd probably recommend getting a lawyer. Even lawyers get a lawyer when they are accused of a crime.
I was wondering if you could do this for the tv series Bones. It’s primarily a crime procedural but there are two really good episodes with a heavy courtroom focus: 01x08 “The Girl in the Fridge” and 03x13 “The Verdict in the Story”.
I don’t know how legally accurate they were but they were devoid of most of the theatrical flair Hollywood usually lends to courtroom drama scenes.
The episodes are mostly self contained so you wouldn’t have to watch anything extra.
The courtroom scenes in Bones are usually outlandishly unrealistic
thedexterbros Admittedly I’m not a lawyer but as far as I can see the Bones court scenes usually are greatly concerned with the validity of evidence, the presentation of that evidence and how each side interpretes the same evidence to support different arguments which as far as I’m aware is more or less the essence of what a court of law is meant to do. I don’t know if their presentation is in any way accurate but even if as you say it is wildly outlandish isn’t that kind of the point of this channel? A real lawyer reacting to how goofy tv law practises are? Bones being inaccurate as you say should be a mark for why he should do a video on it not why he should leave it alone.
@@quinnsinclair7028 I'd love to see it too! Would drive him nuts. Can think of one unrealistic bones scenario off the top of my head-- there's a courtroom scene where the defense lawyer is cross-examining Angela and plays Angela a recording of Angela's own voice confessing to a murder to prove how easy it is to digitally alter someone's voice. It took the whole prosecution, Angela, and the FBI off guard. A: In reality that recording would have had to been presented in discovery as evidence SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE ANYONE OFF GUARD DURING TRIAL and B: that type of evidence, if it can even be considered evidence, usually wouldn't be allowed to be introduced during a cross-examination. It's just one of many examples. There are several episodes wherer the whole case might be dismissed because Booth didn't read Miranda rights to the suspect he arrests. I'm actually a big fan of Bones but they do have a very low concern for procedural reality.
thedexterbros I do remember that, it’s from the gravedigger trial right?
Admittedly no tv show can do completely accurate court drama or it would be extremely boring but at least in the two I brought up I think they were reasonably accurate if only because those trials had a major focus on jury perception and and the interpretation of specific evidence rather than the usual flourishes that Hollywood uses to spice up courtroom scenes.
Ooh yes!
Judge: YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER!
I'M OUT OF ORDER, I'M OUT OF ORDER, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER, THIS WHOLE COURT ROOM IS OUT OF ORDER!, Again Sorry I Couldn't Resist, And I Never saw the Film.
@Clippy Oh Yes Thank You For Catching That, The Judge is Using the Contraction for You Are Isn't he, I'll Edit that Right away, Thanks.