The person responsible for editing these videos deserves a freaking reward. I am re-watching many of your videos multiple times a month just for the insane editing and the incredible music. Pure perfection.
Amazing video as always, hardly any flaws, but the one thing I will REALLY miss is the voice-intro's you did like with Ragnaros, BWD and Dragon Soul.. The voice-acting and epic building music always got me with Paragon. Can you bring that back please? :
Dream Paragon is amazing. They do not rave about world firsts like other guilds we know (Blood Legion, etc.). I really love you Paragon!! Keep up the great work! And get them world firsts in 5.2!!! GL!!
It's intimidating how cleanly this is performed, in comparison to other empress heroic kills, this one is the neatest. Add phases are so perfect it's out of this world in comparison to BL and Methods'.
It is great to see that Blizzard finally stopped diminishing the value of 10 man raids. Some of fights will always be harder on 25 while other on 10 man mode, but in general 10 man is as challenging as 25! Therefore, only jelly people can say that this world first does not count! Grats on kill, I enjoyed every sec of video!
I think they had someone back then who did the videos who's not with them anymore. And he simply knew how to work with music. Everything after Ragnaros hc is just fraps with random music and bam rendered.
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very nice video :) I love this contrats between the calm of the music and an epic fight ^^
i agree with you in the points that the fights are still the same length and have the same things, however, with 25 man, you also have to look out for things such as gearing up, and placements around the room. there are fights where if you stand a certain distance away from other people you could kill and wipe the raid. when in 10 man there is a lot more area to move around in and work with. so 25 man is still fairly tough
Hey Fraggoji, would you be so kind to upload a list of all ur addons u r using right now?! I love ur ui. greetings from germany and keep going on with that good work
They did away with that for a reason. It forced 25man progression guilds to raid 10man, and it made recruiting harder for because the 25man loot was significantly better than 10man.
Thats why 14/15 of the top guilds are all 25man, even the guilds in those 14 who run alt 10mans have said alot of the fights are simply more challenging in 10man. As you no longer can have every class in a 10man. Some utility or cooldown could be lost. But either way world first is world first.
While i agree. This should be considerd a world first. 25mans Are still and always will be harder from a raiding perspective, to get 25 well cordinated and realible , often u need 30 raiders. and Thats why paragon switched to 10man, because they lost so many of there raiders after DS that they wouldnt of been able to do as well in the 25man as previous teirs.
My brilliant diction is truly lost upon you. However, I never played Burning Crusade or Vanilla and I started at Wrath. And I'm still on wrath, never left since... I just found private servers.
does anyone know what addon Lappe (the resto druid) is using that tracks his buff? It's to the right of his character, and it looks like DBM bars but they're tracking buffs.. Thanks in advance!
And i think from watching the full video, the Music made the fight seem easy if that makes sense, But i know i will never encounter this fight on heroic.
Thats correct. I said this too. But its not okay to say that 25 ist harder than 10 man and 25-man-versions are the "real" progress. Its both completely different and every version has its harder part (do you say it this way in english ?). So its hard difference between them. I think blizzard should get greater plattforms and harder 25 bosses so it would be more balance between the two modes.
Hi, i have 2 questions. Firstly, what kind of a number indicating the bottom of the interface. if it is the revenge, which is the name of the addon thanks for the answer
You probably did it at 35% debuff on bosses then, because pre-nerfs, a lot of guilds were doing it with 4 healers, there is a huge difference between doing a boss fight pre-nerfs and post-nerfs.
It's definitely the music and the lack of nerd screams. I could also use the fact that 25m = a lot more shit going on, but i wont since i don't want to start a 10vs25 debate.
Our guild made World Last on Sire Denathrius. We recorded Paragon and Exorsus-like music video. If you like this kind of content (good music + boss lines + nerdscreams), you can watch it: ua-cam.com/video/O3dTzk93OPU/v-deo.html
More dps per player equals more output needed per player. 10's just aren't on par with 25's in difficulty. Not to mention having to stay at range of other people as many encounters need. You must be new to raiding if you think 10's have an average lower ilvl. Less people=less of a chance of people still running around in previous tier or blues. More loot per player means little.
I wanna make a better explanation for you. Blizzard nerfed 10 man mode of ToT cause Bosslife relation was not as planned 1/3 of 25 man version. So imagine you have a boss with 30m life in 10 mode it will have 90m in 25-mode right ? so in 10 mode you have 5 dd's to nuke 90m life that must be 15 in 25-man version right ? that means you have 8 healers. But you only need 6-7 that means 1-2 DPS FOR FREE! that players could hang around doing nothing to get 25 as hard as 10-mode
I agree, but they shouldn't be on the same ranking. They should be considered as two different brackets (like in arena). Paragon got world first, sure. But for 10man. I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this, seeing as this is paragon's yt channel and it's most likely filled with fanboiiiis
The person responsible for editing these videos deserves a freaking reward. I am re-watching many of your videos multiple times a month just for the insane editing and the incredible music. Pure perfection.
totally agree, I love the editing
Dear Paragon, please return to the raiding scene. The game needs you. Badly.
Paragon can't change so bad present WoW. Sadly.
still watch this now and then... love it.
Fantastic music
u guys will be missed, im sad :'(
i come here for the music nowadays :D Great choice!
It's the UI and the music, where did all the golden hans zimmer music go and the ability to hear the boss RP screams was great
Amazing video as always, hardly any flaws, but the one thing I will REALLY miss is the voice-intro's you did like with Ragnaros, BWD and Dragon Soul.. The voice-acting and epic building music always got me with Paragon. Can you bring that back please? :
Dream Paragon is amazing. They do not rave about world firsts like other guilds we know (Blood Legion, etc.). I really love you Paragon!! Keep up the great work! And get them world firsts in 5.2!!! GL!!
I got to agree with you there. I think it is a mix of the UI and the music. But it is really nice to see a POV of Fraggoji. Still a nice video.
Got this info from Paragons forums -> Tank UI discussion
Bartender (action bars)
WeakAuras (tracking all the buffs & debuffs)
BigWigs (bossmod)
Prat (chat)
Omen Threat Meter (threat meter)
OmniCC (cooldown tracker for action bars)
Shadowed Unit Frames (unit frames)
SexyMap (a better looking minimap)
Tidy Plates:Threat Plates (nameplate add-on)
TipTac (tooltip add-on)
SatrinaBuffFrame (hiding blizzard's default buff frames)
MikScrollingBattleText (combat text)
Grid (raid frames)
This Encounter became simplified before that World First - So be it. Congratulation.
Not one, but two Thomas Bergersen pieces. I'm ecstatic!
It's intimidating how cleanly this is performed, in comparison to other empress heroic kills, this one is the neatest. Add phases are so perfect it's out of this world in comparison to BL and Methods'.
I'm an american and i love blood legion but Paragon has been number one guild in the world soo many times you gotta respect them.
It is great to see that Blizzard finally stopped diminishing the value of 10 man raids.
Some of fights will always be harder on 25 while other on 10 man mode, but in
general 10 man is as challenging as 25! Therefore, only jelly people can say that
this world first does not count!
Grats on kill, I enjoyed every sec of video!
I think they had someone back then who did the videos who's not with them anymore. And he simply knew how to work with music. Everything after Ragnaros hc is just fraps with random music and bam rendered.
very nice video :) I love this contrats between the calm of the music and an epic fight ^^
Two steps from hell - Lost in Las Vegas
It's a good one but the epic music suits you more.
The casual era already began with the release of LFR
Lappe playing Resto, like a boss.
Yeah! World first LFR is something to be really proud of!!
i agree with you in the points that the fights are still the same length and have the same things, however, with 25 man, you also have to look out for things such as gearing up, and placements around the room. there are fights where if you stand a certain distance away from other people you could kill and wipe the raid. when in 10 man there is a lot more area to move around in and work with. so 25 man is still fairly tough
the music, too 'calm and smooth' for an epic fight
Will always love you guys!
Whoever you are, Spe, you win the intertubes.
I like how he hesitate to press the Charm Coin Roll.
Loved the Lappe battletag after kill: "fu boss"
The music in this one's Fantastic!!
At the end... Rolling!... gold...
Nice choice of music! :)
Hey Fraggoji, would you be so kind to upload a list of all ur addons u r using right now?! I love ur ui. greetings from germany and keep going on with that good work
It's the lack of 15 other people in the raid.
amazing, you have just beaten the hardest boss so far in game, here is your 28gold reward....o.O
Paragon actually wrote an artical about how much easier 10 m is that 25 m and I would like to point out up until mop they were a 25 m guild.
He uses (I think) shadow unit frame, tellmewhen; bartender; and grid for his UI .
i think the most epic videos, with the most epic music are those vom t11 and t12 content (sry my english is very bad :-P)
Go on their website, there is a section about players's UI
Just look at Lappe's mana, he was completely oom. Basically all the healers
I find it funny how the token at the end says 'YOU WON! 28gold50silver', Urm, im pretty sure thats a lose!
They did away with that for a reason. It forced 25man progression guilds to raid 10man, and it made recruiting harder for because the 25man loot was significantly better than 10man.
Thats why 14/15 of the top guilds are all 25man, even the guilds in those 14 who run alt 10mans have said alot of the fights are simply more challenging in 10man. As you no longer can have every class in a 10man. Some utility or cooldown could be lost. But either way world first is world first.
Gz Method for clearig it all!!! 25-man is the real deal, if you don´t got the balls for it go 10-man!!!
Fucking epic music
for me Putricide 25hc vid and LK 25hc vid have the best music from all paragon vids :) but t11 and 12 are also nice
While i agree. This should be considerd a world first. 25mans Are still and always will be harder from a raiding perspective, to get 25 well cordinated and realible , often u need 30 raiders. and Thats why paragon switched to 10man, because they lost so many of there raiders after DS that they wouldnt of been able to do as well in the 25man as previous teirs.
Lost in Las Vegas - Two Steps From Hell
Where´s Lazeil , did he quit or something . Miss him
That moment, when you have to heal, and got no mana left.
There's a reason why 10's aren't taken as seriously.
I would like to see ur recount or a link to WoL lappe.
there were two 10 mans in TBC, zul'aman and karazhan.
My brilliant diction is truly lost upon you. However, I never played Burning Crusade or Vanilla and I started at Wrath. And I'm still on wrath, never left since... I just found private servers.
does anyone know what addon Lappe (the resto druid) is using that tracks his buff? It's to the right of his character, and it looks like DBM bars but they're tracking buffs.. Thanks in advance!
that resolution too good
There you go. Even you know it.
And i think from watching the full video, the Music made the fight seem easy if that makes sense, But i know i will never encounter this fight on heroic.
WHY IS MY HEAD MOVING TO THE MUSIC!?!?
Thats correct. I said this too. But its not okay to say that 25 ist harder than 10 man and 25-man-versions are the "real" progress. Its both completely different and every version has its harder part (do you say it this way in english ?). So its hard difference between them. I think blizzard should get greater plattforms and harder 25 bosses so it would be more balance between the two modes.
No nerd screams or boss voices =) Still a good video!
Hi, i have 2 questions.
Firstly, what kind of a number indicating the bottom of the interface.
if it is the revenge, which is the name of the addon
thanks for the answer
You probably did it at 35% debuff on bosses then, because pre-nerfs, a lot of guilds were doing it with 4 healers, there is a huge difference between doing a boss fight pre-nerfs and post-nerfs.
can somebody tell me the add on for his vengence buff?the thing on the buttom of his screen
visions of demise, 10 players vs vision of demise, 25 players.
Enough said. Move along.
Of course. All of them count. 25man Heroic World's First is just harder than 10man Normal World's First.
Paragon.. omg... You're the best!!!
25 and 10man are not comparable whatsoever, both are completely different breeds.
It's definitely the music and the lack of nerd screams. I could also use the fact that 25m = a lot more shit going on, but i wont since i don't want to start a 10vs25 debate.
Its so funny how method / blood legion title their video world first
These guys... they make it look so easy.... /wrists
I actually have nightmares about the number 28
great vid, awesome guys :)
After you, milady.
Have you heard Shek'zeer's voice? Its worse than Sindragosa and Sinestra! They spared everyones ears on this one (=
:P I see where your coming from
It just kinda looks in the way
Paragon now and forever! Might be ten but they're still the best.
what was that giant thing at the end?
What is his action bar add on called??
Most of the people, including my guild, did it with two healers.
Our guild made World Last on Sire Denathrius. We recorded Paragon and Exorsus-like music video. If you like this kind of content (good music + boss lines + nerdscreams), you can watch it: ua-cam.com/video/O3dTzk93OPU/v-deo.html
Gratz!
Upload sha of fear kill please! :)
Maybe it's because there is 15 less people on the screen.
Yo dawg I heard you like Paragons
its mostly the fact that its 10m now, feels more like a 5 man dungen than an actual raid : /
You may not want to accept it, but it's the truth.
Owned :D
The only world first that counts are the 25-man! Always has been and always will be!
Gz Method for worlds first!!!
holy shit another pov apart from lappe
More dps per player equals more output needed per player. 10's just aren't on par with 25's in difficulty. Not to mention having to stay at range of other people as many encounters need. You must be new to raiding if you think 10's have an average lower ilvl. Less people=less of a chance of people still running around in previous tier or blues. More loot per player means little.
I wanna make a better explanation for you. Blizzard nerfed 10 man mode of ToT cause Bosslife relation was not as planned 1/3 of 25 man version. So imagine you have a boss with 30m life in 10 mode it will have 90m in 25-mode right ? so in 10 mode you have 5 dd's to nuke 90m life that must be 15 in 25-man version right ? that means you have 8 healers. But you only need 6-7 that means 1-2 DPS FOR FREE! that players could hang around doing nothing to get 25 as hard as 10-mode
I agree, but they shouldn't be on the same ranking. They should be considered as two different brackets (like in arena). Paragon got world first, sure. But for 10man. I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this, seeing as this is paragon's yt channel and it's most likely filled with fanboiiiis
Can someone tell me the name of the first song please?
lappe playing resto? :(
I think it's because of the music... and they used to add Boss sounds into their videos as well.
and.. oh god the music, it's just not fitting
Power auras or Tellmewhen
Nerd screams man, i seen blood legions and i thought it was awesome at the end :)
it's because the original parson who make the videos quit, so now ther is another person
Since 25-man is the one that counts?