My 28 was stolen 3 years ago. Been using an M12 Milwaukee [my only non-Bosch cordless] to get by and just bought the 34 today. Came to find a review, because I remembered the 28 being so much louder. Thanks for confirming.
Great video. I like my -28 but I've been wanting a 2nd multi tool to leave in my box at the shop because I use them so much and keep my older model at home for personal usage. Been eyeing this model since last year when they were only avaliable in Asia. I think I'm gonna go get one at Lowes tomorrow since they've finally showed up there and are also running a free battery kit deal for them at the moment! I use it as a detail sander for decently long durations more then anything so I'm really looking forward to the vibration and noise reductions!
Thanks for the heads up! Been on the Bosch platform for a while and always wanted the oscillating tool, but it was too chunky in the hand for comfortable use!
Got the 34, was considering the makita brushless but it was hard to argue when i could get makita tool only for $134 at cheapest or bosch $173 with 4ah battery, charger and blade kit...
Awesome video! One question I have being an electrician my main use for it is cutting kitchen cabinets so kick back and bouncing is a big concern as it may cause a damage to the surface. I've been using 12v milwaukee all this years but vibration and lack of power really started to annoy me so I decided to give it to my apprentice and go with 18volt and since I already have bosch batteries and chargers for my cordless drill then these two models are the only option. So my question is which model is better for fine cuts?
@konstantynelim honestly for plunge cutting precision, it comes down to blade selection. I would definitely recommend a curved blade. The bosch, or diablo starlock blades with curvetec are the way to go. Good luck.
So I finally pulled the trigger and grabbed this at my local retail store and what I discovered is that this is basically a Makita with a different housing. Quiet without the blade, but gets loud with blade on just like the Makita brushless model. I hadn't had it to stall yet as the Makita had that problem and I heard some users say they had that problem with the Bosch too. The good news is that the Bosch has a smaller head in comparison to the Makita, so that's a plus. Who ever designed the Makita really needs to get fired as he had no idea that one of the important components of a multi tool is to get into tight corners or confined space, so having a compact head preferably a narrow head plays a huge advantage. The other plus on the Bosch is balance of control/performance and ease of where you are cutting, which the Makita fails to do so due to its oversized head. Makita had control, but performance....is ok and Bosch just seems to do that better. Handle feels just like the Makita and that's not really a good thing because I prefer a thinner handle overall, but I would give Bosch an edge over the Makita as the battery doesn't get in the way (it did on the Makita). BUT! considering the price of the Bosch, I would get that over the Makita any day. As for recommendations, 1. Flex - a true compact design with anti vibration at a reasonable price, 2. Kobalt gen 2- yes, this thing is rock solid as it has the best trigger style control even better than Dewalt and it's quieter in comparison, 3. Metabo HPT gen 2 - quietest and smoothest cutting period, 4. Milwaukee 18v and 12v - just shear performance and cuts anything like butter. I would include Bosch maybe because it seems to come with a lot of accessories/attachments, so it's carefully thought out.
Just FYI, Flex oscillator is nothing else but a rebranded pure chinese Devon 5951. And like with every other pure Chinese product, one should be aware of potential lack of spare parts and a somewhat cheaper quality or underengineered product, which might have yet undiscovered issues.
@@atexnik I have been using Flex for quite some time and they have tools that put other brands to shame. The reason I fell in love with multi tools is all because of Flex. If my memory serves me right, Chervon was one of the first companies to push towards anti vibration for its multi tool at least in America it began with the Skil 18v. Since the introduction of Flex and its anti kickback feature on hammer drills, other brands have started to take that into consideration on future models. I do not know how good the engineering is on Flex tools, but it's certain that it is a step up from Skil, Kobalt and Masterforce. Flex's main competitor is still the big 3. Flex also puts a lot of thought in how they package their stuff by throwing in more accessories that other brands seldom doing.
I have a GOP 18V-28, if possible, please answer, do you also have battery vibration at speed 5 or 6 due to the battery not fitting tightly to the body? Or is it just me who has this problem, on .core batteries this vibration is stronger than on old type batteries, maybe you can tell me how to solve this problem
I bought the 34 a month ago from Aliexpress and found out that the jaws of the gear head mechanism jam in the tool release position,I have to use a flat screw driver to open them,quite annoying.Any idea how to solve that problem whitout having to send it to a repair shop?
@arkangel13th this sounds like a manufacturing defect. It should release the blade easily and lock in a fresh one tightly. If the teeth aren't pinching together to release the blade, it isn't working properly.
@@berndtthomasI own both and the 28 is a pain to run for more than a few minutes at a time. It's boxy to hold and the battery often doesn't leave room for flush cutting.
Do you recommend getting 5Ah battery, given the price delta is negligibly small. Weight wise it seems to be only +20 gram heavier.@@tooltipswithtommy
Also question off topic. My 7 year-old cordless bosch drill lost power (or torque) when in 2nd gear. Brushes look fine. Tried new batteries and no luck. What could possibly cause it?
@konstantynelim I'm not really qualified to answer that, I'm sorry. There's a lot of tech built into tools nowadays that it could be many things. Have you taken it to a service center? I do know a guy that works for bosch if you're in the so cal area?
Probably, only because it's the old style tool. But I don't have the corded one to check. I know somebody who has one, maybe I can check out out for you.
@@tooltipswithtommy After reading a lot of stuff on the internet I think that I'm going to buy or the Bosch GOP 18v-34 that you are reviewing or the Fein 500 as they should be the best ones that limit the vibrations trasmitted to your hand during work. I don't know which it's better between the two, have you ever used the Fein?
@LightsnRoses I have not used the fein, I'm sure it would be very good. They were the first to make oscillating tools, they co-developed starlock with bosch. So you will probably be very happy with it. The cordless one also uses bosch batteries as part of the ampshare alliance. Good luck with whichever you choose.
What is the the battery configuration like? I haven't seen this sideway positioning before and I am not 100% sure if I fully onboard with it. Any perks to having the battery in this position opposed to what other brands opt for which is to have the battery facing the other way around and at times on a slight angle.
I like how Bosch changed it. the weight distribution is pretty much the same, and now you can see how much battery you have left. also it stands upright.
Makita is probably the worst oscillating tool on the market. Bulky, stalls out on you, and vibration and sound is heightened considerably when you are plunging. The big negative is the damn price. Sold the darn thing and got me another brand. Currently own Flex, Metabo HPT, and Milwaukee. When you start thinking about the price point of one Makita oscillating tool, you can get more from another brand and get 2-1/2 for the price of one.
i do like this tool the only thing that i didnt like was that instead of hungary it is made in china and the mechanism feels a little cheaper i hate the chinese bullshit bosch sticker nameplate i feel like that is just a pathetic move on their part BUT the design is way better it is more comfortable to hold and use and the vibration dampening is a huge improvement
I have this tool and I disagree with the cheapness feel, because it does not feel cheap. It feels well made,strong, so ergonomic & nice in the hands. Quality tool.
Agree about the sticker, it reminds me of the old Dewalt entry level 20V tools that somehow are still on sale like the DCD771 and DCF885. I don't own the multitool but own the GST18V-50 Brushless jigsaw and although it's faster, has more features and it's more efficient than the old brushed model made in Switzerland it feels cheap because of the dang sticker instead of the molded raised branding found in all my other tools. Somehow on the Brushless Sander it looks ok but it's a much smaller sticker to begin with and it might have been difficult to implement the raised letters on such a small space so it gets a pass. Build quality on both is stellar despite being made in China, though
@@luisinhoens90 Even self it is made in China, Bosch has a Plant in China, because a lot of the raw materials to manufacture the tools are in China. That plant is run and managed by Bosch Engineers to maintain they high standards and quality. China is world class country that have been making world class, high quality products a long time. So this notion that China makes inferior products has already been debunked long time, otherwise all the top Electronics makers, for eg, globally, would not outsource their labour to China to mass produce their products to sell to people, simple. Much respect.
Makita is now using the Starlock system as well. However, it feels like holding a brick in your hand. I like that the Bosch is more ergonomic.
I've seen that tool it is like a brick.
a 249 dollar brick lol
Just replaced my 28 with this, the reduced vibration is very good , and the new design is more comfortable
Doesn't the quick release lever hit the case on higher speeds?
My 28 was stolen 3 years ago. Been using an M12 Milwaukee [my only non-Bosch cordless] to get by and just bought the 34 today.
Came to find a review, because I remembered the 28 being so much louder. Thanks for confirming.
Great video. I like my -28 but I've been wanting a 2nd multi tool to leave in my box at the shop because I use them so much and keep my older model at home for personal usage. Been eyeing this model since last year when they were only avaliable in Asia. I think I'm gonna go get one at Lowes tomorrow since they've finally showed up there and are also running a free battery kit deal for them at the moment! I use it as a detail sander for decently long durations more then anything so I'm really looking forward to the vibration and noise reductions!
Thanks for the heads up! Been on the Bosch platform for a while and always wanted the oscillating tool, but it was too chunky in the hand for comfortable use!
Thanks for the review .I've had the 28 for a few years ,been a brilliant too , but I'm going to replace it with the 34 .
Finally I bought a tool before you Tommy. I love the new one for all the reasons that you mentioned.
I’ll keep the 28 for now until it breaks, then il get the updated version. Nice review 👍🏼
Thanks
Well, you'll keep it forever then. Godd luck trying breaking down a bosch)
Good review. I plan on adding the new Bosch to my shop
Great! I've the 12v version, Bosch should update them too. Including the lever to switch blades quickly and the EC Brushless motor.
Got the 34, was considering the makita brushless but it was hard to argue when i could get makita tool only for $134 at cheapest or bosch $173 with 4ah battery, charger and blade kit...
Grabbed the 28 at Lowe’s today for $99 apparently they had it mislabeled and weren’t too happy about it but for $99 it was a no brainer.
I just got the 34 at Lowes today for $99.
Awesome video! One question I have being an electrician my main use for it is cutting kitchen cabinets so kick back and bouncing is a big concern as it may cause a damage to the surface. I've been using 12v milwaukee all this years but vibration and lack of power really started to annoy me so I decided to give it to my apprentice and go with 18volt and since I already have bosch batteries and chargers for my cordless drill then these two models are the only option. So my question is which model is better for fine cuts?
@konstantynelim honestly for plunge cutting precision, it comes down to blade selection. I would definitely recommend a curved blade. The bosch, or diablo starlock blades with curvetec are the way to go. Good luck.
So I finally pulled the trigger and grabbed this at my local retail store and what I discovered is that this is basically a Makita with a different housing. Quiet without the blade, but gets loud with blade on just like the Makita brushless model. I hadn't had it to stall yet as the Makita had that problem and I heard some users say they had that problem with the Bosch too. The good news is that the Bosch has a smaller head in comparison to the Makita, so that's a plus. Who ever designed the Makita really needs to get fired as he had no idea that one of the important components of a multi tool is to get into tight corners or confined space, so having a compact head preferably a narrow head plays a huge advantage. The other plus on the Bosch is balance of control/performance and ease of where you are cutting, which the Makita fails to do so due to its oversized head. Makita had control, but performance....is ok and Bosch just seems to do that better. Handle feels just like the Makita and that's not really a good thing because I prefer a thinner handle overall, but I would give Bosch an edge over the Makita as the battery doesn't get in the way (it did on the Makita). BUT! considering the price of the Bosch, I would get that over the Makita any day. As for recommendations, 1. Flex - a true compact design with anti vibration at a reasonable price, 2. Kobalt gen 2- yes, this thing is rock solid as it has the best trigger style control even better than Dewalt and it's quieter in comparison, 3. Metabo HPT gen 2 - quietest and smoothest cutting period, 4. Milwaukee 18v and 12v - just shear performance and cuts anything like butter. I would include Bosch maybe because it seems to come with a lot of accessories/attachments, so it's carefully thought out.
Thanks for that input. All good
Just FYI, Flex oscillator is nothing else but a rebranded pure chinese Devon 5951. And like with every other pure Chinese product, one should be aware of potential lack of spare parts and a somewhat cheaper quality or underengineered product, which might have yet undiscovered issues.
@@atexnik I have been using Flex for quite some time and they have tools that put other brands to shame. The reason I fell in love with multi tools is all because of Flex. If my memory serves me right, Chervon was one of the first companies to push towards anti vibration for its multi tool at least in America it began with the Skil 18v. Since the introduction of Flex and its anti kickback feature on hammer drills, other brands have started to take that into consideration on future models. I do not know how good the engineering is on Flex tools, but it's certain that it is a step up from Skil, Kobalt and Masterforce. Flex's main competitor is still the big 3. Flex also puts a lot of thought in how they package their stuff by throwing in more accessories that other brands seldom doing.
Thank you Tommy
thanks for the "28" "34" meaning
Do you know if it takes the fein blades?
And can you put the blades on any different angles?
it will take any starlock blades, and yes they can be put on in many angles.
I have a GOP 18V-28, if possible, please answer, do you also have battery vibration at speed 5 or 6 due to the battery not fitting tightly to the body? Or is it just me who has this problem, on .core batteries this vibration is stronger than on old type batteries, maybe you can tell me how to solve this problem
Cool tool, and I love the hat!
Thanks for this can u tell me where the new one is made thanks.
china
I bought the 34 a month ago from Aliexpress and found out that the jaws of the gear head mechanism jam in the tool release position,I have to use a flat screw driver to open them,quite annoying.Any idea how to solve that problem whitout having to send it to a repair shop?
@arkangel13th this sounds like a manufacturing defect. It should release the blade easily and lock in a fresh one tightly. If the teeth aren't pinching together to release the blade, it isn't working properly.
How heavy is it with the 4 Ah battery? Is it well balanced with the battery or tilts back to the battery side?
@atexnik it's well balanced with the 4 amp hour, but the 8 will make it back heavy.
Great review！The new model looks much better than the old one, right?
They improved the new one a lot. The only thing the old one will have is a better price.
The old one looks like a proper tool. The new one looks like something you would find in a womans purse.
@@berndtthomasI own both and the 28 is a pain to run for more than a few minutes at a time. It's boxy to hold and the battery often doesn't leave room for flush cutting.
Hi Tommy. On the Bosch GOP18V-34, which battery feels better? 2Amp, 4Amp, or 5Amp etc?
I'm a big fan of the 4 amp hour core battery. I think that's the sweet spot. I'm hoping that bosch does a tabless cell 4 amp hour battery.
Do you recommend getting 5Ah battery, given the price delta is negligibly small. Weight wise it seems to be only +20 gram heavier.@@tooltipswithtommy
@@atexnik i like the fact that the 4 amp hour battery uses the newer 21700 cells. either will work well though.
I assume, you mean the Procore series batteries. @@tooltipswithtommy
Also question off topic. My 7 year-old cordless bosch drill lost power (or torque) when in 2nd gear. Brushes look fine. Tried new batteries and no luck. What could possibly cause it?
@konstantynelim I'm not really qualified to answer that, I'm sorry. There's a lot of tech built into tools nowadays that it could be many things. Have you taken it to a service center? I do know a guy that works for bosch if you're in the so cal area?
If it has brushes, your drill is simply tired. Drills tend to get over stressed while on speed 2.
Time to go brushless.
Does the GOP 40-30 which is the corded variant, transmit more vibration to your hand than this bosch gop 18v-34 ?
Probably, only because it's the old style tool. But I don't have the corded one to check. I know somebody who has one, maybe I can check out out for you.
@@tooltipswithtommy if you can check that would be great
@@tooltipswithtommy After reading a lot of stuff on the internet I think that I'm going to buy or the Bosch GOP 18v-34 that you are reviewing or the Fein 500 as they should be the best ones that limit the vibrations trasmitted to your hand during work. I don't know which it's better between the two, have you ever used the Fein?
@LightsnRoses I have not used the fein, I'm sure it would be very good. They were the first to make oscillating tools, they co-developed starlock with bosch. So you will probably be very happy with it. The cordless one also uses bosch batteries as part of the ampshare alliance. Good luck with whichever you choose.
What is the the battery configuration like? I haven't seen this sideway positioning before and I am not 100% sure if I fully onboard with it. Any perks to having the battery in this position opposed to what other brands opt for which is to have the battery facing the other way around and at times on a slight angle.
I like how Bosch changed it. the weight distribution is pretty much the same, and now you can see how much battery you have left. also it stands upright.
If it doesn't make commen sense, Then it makes No sense at all👍
Lol for minute 4:37
Makita is probably the worst oscillating tool on the market. Bulky, stalls out on you, and vibration and sound is heightened considerably when you are plunging. The big negative is the damn price. Sold the darn thing and got me another brand. Currently own Flex, Metabo HPT, and Milwaukee. When you start thinking about the price point of one Makita oscillating tool, you can get more from another brand and get 2-1/2 for the price of one.
i do like this tool the only thing that i didnt like was that instead of hungary it is made in china and the mechanism feels a little cheaper i hate the chinese bullshit bosch sticker nameplate i feel like that is just a pathetic move on their part BUT the design is way better it is more comfortable to hold and use and the vibration dampening is a huge improvement
I agree, I have older bosch stuff made in Switzerland, and Germany, and even US. I'll never get rid of them.
I have this tool and I disagree with the cheapness feel, because it does not feel cheap. It feels well made,strong, so ergonomic & nice in the hands. Quality tool.
Agree about the sticker, it reminds me of the old Dewalt entry level 20V tools that somehow are still on sale like the DCD771 and DCF885.
I don't own the multitool but own the GST18V-50 Brushless jigsaw and although it's faster, has more features and it's more efficient than the old brushed model made in Switzerland it feels cheap because of the dang sticker instead of the molded raised branding found in all my other tools. Somehow on the Brushless Sander it looks ok but it's a much smaller sticker to begin with and it might have been difficult to implement the raised letters on such a small space so it gets a pass.
Build quality on both is stellar despite being made in China, though
@@luisinhoens90 Even self it is made in China, Bosch has a Plant in China, because a lot of the raw materials to manufacture the tools are in China. That plant is run and managed by Bosch Engineers to maintain they high standards and quality. China is world class country that have been making world class, high quality products a long time. So this notion that China makes inferior products has already been debunked long time, otherwise all the top Electronics makers, for eg, globally, would not outsource their labour to China to mass produce their products to sell to people, simple. Much respect.
well I just bought a 28 and now I’m not sorry I did, I’ll take the Hungarian model over the China model despite it’s drawbacks