If you have never read the book, or listened to the audio book, the depth of Milo's black market dealings are pure comedic genius. They really hacked up the book to make the movie work, lol.
@@wookinooki9023 .......The book is infinitely better than the film. Character development is far deeper and broader, the story line goes into much more detail and the film version completely omits a number of very important sections of the book. To be totally honest, you could never ever do justice to Heller's masterpiece - although this is still an excellent film in its own way.
It's 2 different planes. The wrecked plane is in place as they begin the take. The plane coming in for a landing touches down and then takes off. The camera move is timed so that it's gone when they pan to show the wreckage. Still seems kind of dangerous and very ballsy to pull off.
@@MiguelCruz-oz7km being 1970 there were a lot of good pilots floating around still from all the wars. With WW2, Vietnam, Korea, there were definitely some prior service military pilots with serious time and experience in the seat available then.
Do not disregard that the aircrew landing that B-25 in the background are having the worse day of their lives as Milo and the CO are having a conversation of breakfast eggs.
I’ve only seen the new catch-22, didn’t realize Milo’s new actor had captured the old one so well, or that they’d used the same visual and audio tricks in the old one, it’s so obvious from this clip!
@@KB4QAAthose aren’t mutually exclusive Minderbinder was at least partially based on the head of General Motors who once said “What’s good for GM is good for America” and he went on to become one of the early pieces of the military industrial complex
Ben Hur might take a few points off, but apart from that this is the finest cinematic sequence ever. Well, there's that scene in Lawrence of Arabia, that dance in the carpark in West Side
Martin Balsam was a great actor. He could play anything, comedy, drama, and was as reliable as a Swiss watch. Not a movie star, but a great nuts-&-bolts actor who really knew his trade.
Because he buys them at 5 cents a piece with the military’s money but sells at 2 cents a piece, pocketing 100% of the profit. So he’s selling what he received for free.
He's very enterprising. He even sells loads of high quality silk to the highest bidder. The bomber crews robbed of their parachutes all got a full share in M & M Company though.
Honestly, I don't think this scene works at all. Satire should be right at the edge of reality, not completely outside it. There's no way any two people who have ever lived are going to carry on a mundane conversation as if nothing is happening while a plane is crashing right in front of them.
It's a visual example of what they are talking about ... to these men, war is profit, nothing else. They don't notice a pilot crashing because they genuinely don't care
Honestly, you live in a fantasy world. Even if these two characters werent obsessed by nothing but profit and greed, would you expect them to rush to the wreck and try to to pull out the crewmen from the fire by bare hands, another explosion almost certain ? This was war, dude - this was not a car accident.. and they´ve all been through such tragic events on daily basis.
The significance of him being a government employee is insignificant because ALL the characters are government employees. If there where other characters who were civilians with whom Milo's character could be contrasted - maybe a civilian character who is a "good" capitalist, for example - then perhaps you would have a point. But as it stands in the context of the story, he is distinguished from all the other soldiers (all the other characters in the story world) by his capitalist ideology and behavior and not his job. All the other characters do not exploit their positions at the expense of their brothers in arms for the sake of profit, which is why most people see this character as a serious critique of capitalism as an ideology not merely a system of organizing an economy.
@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Yes "shares" such as with "shares of stock," which are the fundamental of unit of raising capital and a system of capitalism. So it's definitely reasonable to read this character as a representation of the corruption of the military industrial complex.
@@trentclarkson9655 On the other hand, he was the one who provided real eggs for his comrades, not the military industrial complex. The money to pay for those eggs was simply embezzled from the Army via clever subterfuge, and the Army never missed it, being itself funded by the money printer. Nothing here for any upstanding socialist to object to! Would we prefer that the pilots fly on an empty stomach? Are they not worth a few pennies for fresh eggs instead of powdered? Who is being harmed by Milo's little enterprise?
If you have never read the book, or listened to the audio book, the depth of Milo's black market dealings are pure comedic genius. They really hacked up the book to make the movie work, lol.
He's pretty great in the Hulu series. From what I can tell the Hulu series really gave this movie justice, though I haven't read the book
Milo really scammed all of Europe...
hacked up?
@@wookinooki9023 .......The book is infinitely better than the film. Character development is far deeper and broader, the story line goes into much more detail and the film version completely omits a number of very important sections of the book.
To be totally honest, you could never ever do justice to Heller's masterpiece - although this is still an excellent film in its own way.
This in one shot. Amazing. This film although as not as good as the book is a technical marvel.
*B-25 Crash lands right next to them and explodes on the runway.*
*The two continue talking casually as if nothing happend.*
Classic satire
Milo always creeped me out with how charming he was despite all the FUBAR happening around him.
Then you may enjoy Cannes Man about a conniving movie producer.
Sometimes I get replies on comments I've made years ago just to remember that I even made a comment at all lol.
I guess I'm late to this party.
Glad you're doing well and hope you enjoy the movie
Bro made a come back after 8 years
@@jaigracejjoy Hello, from the future.
What a classic scene.
that plane crash is impressive! i am sitting here wodnering how they did it, before CGI! stuff like this in old movies amazes me
It's 2 different planes. The wrecked plane is in place as they begin the take. The plane coming in for a landing touches down and then takes off. The camera move is timed so that it's gone when they pan to show the wreckage. Still seems kind of dangerous and very ballsy to pull off.
@@MiguelCruz-oz7km Adding the extra explosion that knocks off the hats is a great touch.
the burning B25 was the worst of the 18 i think they had, flew it fm mexico, with gear down and sacrafuced it for this scene
Really...you couldn't come to the conclusion that there were 2 planes?
@@MiguelCruz-oz7km being 1970 there were a lot of good pilots floating around still from all the wars. With WW2, Vietnam, Korea, there were definitely some prior service military pilots with serious time and experience in the seat available then.
Do not disregard that the aircrew landing that B-25 in the background are having the worse day of their lives as Milo and the CO are having a conversation of breakfast eggs.
Worst day and last day of their lives
That's the point of the clip. That's the whole joke. We get it. Do you?
Those pilots are just pawns. The two men talking are higher pieces, with Milo possibly being the queen.
I’ve only seen the new catch-22, didn’t realize Milo’s new actor had captured the old one so well, or that they’d used the same visual and audio tricks in the old one, it’s so obvious from this clip!
The new one is hack in my opinion
Starting at about 00:54 in this video: GREAT WORK on the part of that B-25 Mitchell pilot...👍
Milo...the perfect personification of the military industrial complex
No, Personal Profiteering.
@@KB4QAAthose aren’t mutually exclusive Minderbinder was at least partially based on the head of General Motors who once said “What’s good for GM is good for America” and he went on to become one of the early pieces of the military industrial complex
Milo needs his moustache!
Ben Hur might take a few points off, but apart from that this is the finest cinematic sequence ever. Well, there's that scene in Lawrence of Arabia, that dance in the carpark in West Side
Story.
Which scene in "Lawrence of Arabia" are you referring to?
@@ronstero The ululating from the clifftops scene.
I'm reading this book and I'm currently at this bit.
Nessimess "what's good for the Syndicate is good for the country. and everyone has a share in the Syndicate".
Same here
Martin Balsam was a great actor. He could play anything, comedy, drama, and was as reliable as a Swiss watch. Not a movie star, but a great nuts-&-bolts actor who really knew his trade.
Of course, Milo lost it all when he invested in Egyptian cotton that he couldn't unload.
Chocolate covered cotton! The men have to like it!
"Where's my parachute?!"
He made a deal with the Germans. They would take his cotton if the bomber squadron would just bomb their own base in return.
That was a very dangerous scene for both great actors
1:00 Hilarious they're discussing a business venture oblivious to the background scene.
Sure there's death and destruction happening, but there's money to be made.
I still don't understand how he turns profit from selling at lost those eggs, but anyway WE ALL HAVE A SHARE....
Because he buys them at 5 cents a piece with the military’s money but sells at 2 cents a piece, pocketing 100% of the profit. So he’s selling what he received for free.
@@cosettelias4888 Also free logistic.
He's very enterprising. He even sells loads of high quality silk to the highest bidder.
The bomber crews robbed of their parachutes all got a full share in M & M Company though.
He did have his own planes bomb the airfield as a mercenary for the enemy.
We all have a share.
Milos grammar is perfect.
And this youngsters is a classic example of irony and satire.
Yes, the modern movies spell everything out to a T and don't allow you to think or feel any emotion during the film that comes from within.
Ironically, Jon Voight BECAME "Milo" in later life. With a big dose of "Arfy".
nah. ad hominem. try again.
@@plasticweapon True, Milo was at least sane. Voight is now a cult member.
@@mashah1085 and you're not?
@@plasticweapon No, I'm not.
@@mashah1085 yes, you are. you just don't know it.
Movie is OK but read the book first....Its sooooo much more enjoyable
Where tf did the egg go
Vsauce, Michael here. This is a fresh egg.
Pure genius.
what's even better is that it explodes in front of them and then drive away as it burns behind them! HA!
This movie was so prophetic.
Milo is an American god.
One long take.
Where is his moustache
Where's his Sharia Law?
Is he related in anyway to the evil Cobra character: Dr Mind bender
I like eggs
Honestly, I don't think this scene works at all. Satire should be right at the edge of reality, not completely outside it. There's no way any two people who have ever lived are going to carry on a mundane conversation as if nothing is happening while a plane is crashing right in front of them.
It's a visual example of what they are talking about ... to these men, war is profit, nothing else. They don't notice a pilot crashing because they genuinely don't care
Honestly, you live in a fantasy world. Even if these two characters werent obsessed by nothing but profit and greed, would you expect them to rush to the wreck and try to to pull out the crewmen from the fire by bare hands, another explosion almost certain ? This was war, dude - this was not a car accident.. and they´ve all been through such tragic events on daily basis.
@@steveblundell7766 Sure they noticed (like: good, the plane cleared us) .. but yep, sure they didnt care one bit
And you, sir just hit the nail on the head
Funny that they made Milo, a schemeing money-grubbing weasel a Gentile.
Too much, LOL!
You forget what he really is. A govt employee.
The significance of him being a government employee is insignificant because ALL the characters are government employees. If there where other characters who were civilians with whom Milo's character could be contrasted - maybe a civilian character who is a "good" capitalist, for example - then perhaps you would have a point. But as it stands in the context of the story, he is distinguished from all the other soldiers (all the other characters in the story world) by his capitalist ideology and behavior and not his job. All the other characters do not exploit their positions at the expense of their brothers in arms for the sake of profit, which is why most people see this character as a serious critique of capitalism as an ideology not merely a system of organizing an economy.
@@trentclarkson9655 theres nothing capitalistic about a syndicate. thats what it is in the book, everybody has a share should be a hint.
@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Yes "shares" such as with "shares of stock," which are the fundamental of unit of raising capital and a system of capitalism. So it's definitely reasonable to read this character as a representation of the corruption of the military industrial complex.
@@trentclarkson9655 On the other hand, he was the one who provided real eggs for his comrades, not the military industrial complex. The money to pay for those eggs was simply embezzled from the Army via clever subterfuge, and the Army never missed it, being itself funded by the money printer. Nothing here for any upstanding socialist to object to! Would we prefer that the pilots fly on an empty stomach? Are they not worth a few pennies for fresh eggs instead of powdered? Who is being harmed by Milo's little enterprise?
Milo was total Republican in the movie...and total Republican today.
To the rest of the world he's just a typical American entrepeneur.