Who Made the Spider's Curse? (Zelda Theory)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- The House of Skulltula from the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time has forever been one of the creepiest parts of the entire game-- since it is a house filled with a family of cursed half-human, half-spider abominations, after all. In the years since the game's release, there have been no shortage of theories and guesses regarding the family's curse; but what about who cursed them to begin with? Join me as we discuss in this year's Halloween special!
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Which Zelda game has the most scares? (BESIDES Majora’s Mask lol)
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Tw prinnces
Probably Skyward Sword. Those Silent Realms... 😬
my birthday was yesterday lol. poggers
@@thatlittleratinyourcloset7612 congrats!
Happy birthday!
"Pay no attention to the figure standing behind you" Me:*continues to ignore son's existence because Bandit told me to*
Oh noooooo 😜
@@BanditGames its pronounced (Ha-ten-o) not hat-teno
@@BanditGames you indeed said hateno wrong the guy above me is right
@@jimmicks8185 Does it matter Mr. English???
@@devonthemonster3932 loll give him a breakk. we all pronounced it wrong as well as purahs name. the only reason we all know it now is bc of the demo lol
"one finds themselves very thankful they only exist inside video games"
Australia: *profused sweating*
The skulltulas are actually supposed to be based on a genus of spiders, from Australia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephila
Nice but don't forget Scorpios
Yeah I feel like these huge spiders are the norm there. Maybe it’s good to set the place on fire every once and a while to clean out the bigger spiders
Actually I live in Australia and it's not 100% desert only western Australia is a desert and there are a lot of spiders and snakes but they aren't big
My friend says when we was in the army in the middle east he saw a spider in a shower stall so big all he could think was "it's a zelda spider".
probably thinking of Camel Spiders (AKA Sun Spiders or Solifugae). They're a mix between Scorpions and Spiders, an order of their own under the Arachnida class. But even if they were full on spiders they aren't close to the largest spiders, which is the South American Goliath Birdeater. Camel Spiders are a couple(2-3) inches large with long bodies where-as the goliath spider looks like someone just scaled up a normal looking spider, at 4.75~ inches tall and legs that can reach out roughly 12 inches.
@@ShrtStfflp Yeah exactly. I knew they weren't normal spiders, but a cross with scorpions and spiders makes sense.
Oh boy lol
MNB: Pay no attention to the figure standing behind you...
Me: *turns around to glance at giant plushie* It's just Yoshi.
Yoshi brings terror though... Ths IRS will be at your door soon. Be careful.
lol
I have a taco plushie so....
Mine was a link poster 😂 I said “aaahhhh a hero”
I just gotva box of pringles behind me.
The Spider Demon theory in interesting. I feel that the Skulltula curse is actually is not a twisted wish, but a punishment from the demon, or whatever it is. If the family is as greedy as you say, then they could have tried to swindle something from the Spider Demon.
Perhaps they knew about the curse, but thought that killing the golden spider would undo it, not knowing the spider had 100 offspring scattered all over the world.
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I was just thinking the same thing. They made the deal with a spider, and when it came to collect they murdered it causing this twisted cursed effect. To be freed of the curse they must either pay what is owed or see that the entire golden species is rendered extinct
What about them making a deal with some unknown being only to be punished by the goddess. just sayin
I think it’s secret option C, "an unknown being". Neither "poes" nor "Hateno statue" strike me as convincing, and a forced conclusion based only on characters we know is not beneficial in any way. Though it might be another character we know but just can’t think of right now.
I think poes is unlikely for the same reasons you listed; because the OoT curse required the killing of golden Skulltulas. It just feels forced. And the "Hateno statue" isn’t any better, as the statue not only doesn’t do dirty deals with Link but also flat out denies Link of using its services if doing so would weaken him beyond three hearts and a standard stamina wheel. I think the statue is a chaotic being that likes messing with people and making bank by tricking people into using its services, but I don’t think it’s malicious. It‘d be another thing if you could die by trading away more of your health or stamina than you start with, but sadly that isn’t the case.
There is that one bat that keeps cursing Link in 2 games.
"pay no attention to the figure standing behind you"
Jokes on you, my bed's against a wall 😂
Yeah nobodys standing behind me, I got the top bunk of a bunk bed and I'm up against the wall with my giant botw poster
I am also lying on my bed which is against a wall.
the statement still stands...behind you!
Lol same
Silly Blue Valor!
*That wasn't a wall at the time.*
Me at the beginning of the video: I'm not scared of spiders.
Also me 5 seconds into the video:ksnficndkdbricndkdbtkdnf
Ikr
A shapeshifter. Both Poe’s an skulltula are naturally occurring enemies in the Zelda universe. The shapeshifter appears before them. Or baits their greed with stories of wealth. Then makes the devils deal with them cursing them in the long run.
One thing that intrigues me about this theory is that one very specific party was not brought up as a possibility: The Shiekah themselves.
We've already established that the Stone of Agony is accepted as a pairing to the Lens of Truth, a Shiekah artifact, so for it to have come into the possession of this family means one of two things:
- They bartered for it
Or more likely...
- They stole it
We know well that the Shiekah are more than capable of accessing darker magics, it's sort of their thing. Would it be so out-of-reach to believe that the Shiekah could've tracked them down and cursed them for their greed?
That might leave the question, why does the family still have the stone then, why didn't the Shiekah take it back? A possible answer is that they left it with them to remind them of what their greed had earned them, and the cost of their curse. Perhaps to give them a chance to redeem themselves and gift it to someone willing to break their curse, if they could hope to find someone like that. Who would be brave and kind enough to see them and want to help them, after all?
There is another theory that the grottos are shelters that various inhabitants of Hyrule had set up during the war that claimed the lives of Link's parents, the family was using the stone/shard of agony to track down other people's shelters and steal their rupees that they were keeping in their shelters.
I think that other theory supports your theory that the Shiekah, themselves, may have placed the curse upon the family. Whether the family bartered for, or stole the stone/shard of agony, they were probably punished by the Shiekah for misusing their artifact to rob innocent people who were just trying to take shelter and survive the war.
They removed the stone of agony from the 3DS version and I'm sad
if the sheikah are involved it possible in twilight princess Jovani stole from the hidden village
@@tanandalynch9441 That's because they replaced it with the Shard of Agony, due to the 3DS lacking a rumble feature.
I was literally thinking about this yesterday as a Halloween themed theory, haha! Glad to see someone dig into it! Great work MNB!
The father of the group literally said they were like that because of the “Spider’s curse”, which would lead you to believe that it was some sort of spider that cursed them. If it was something else, you would think the wording would have just been “spider curse”, but he gave it a possessive intonation from (possibly) an actual spider.
Maybe Gohma had something to do with it...
Sorry… Gohma?
@@yaboi8130 main boss in the great Deku tree
@@Wariors_World I was trying to set up a gohma nuts joke but it’s fine you can ruin an 8 month joke in waiting 😒
@@yaboi8130 well i didnt know. And also, if it's been eight months, the joke won't land lol
@@Wariors_World you ruined everything. Who doesn’t know gohma?
There is another option. The Zelda universe already has a being of pure greed.
Uncle Rupee.
In the really weird japanese only spinoff Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, Uncle Rupee is a deity who makes a deal with the lead, he turns him into a tingle and gets him to do services for him all with the promise of unlimited wealth. You find out in the end of the game that his deal is a lie and had you completed your end he would have turned you into a slave in his little world.
This isn't that different from the deals brokered with Giovanni or the spider house. Offers of unlimited wealth that ultimately resulted in a ghastly changed form.
Great theory. I like it.
Me: *Watches video at 11pm woth headphones while my roommate is trying to sleep*
MNB: "Pay no attention to the figure behind you"
Me: "I'm against a wall on the third floor. I'm impressed if someone is watching over my shoulder. Stay warm, it's cold out."
Klaton, from BotW, must be related to the Skulta Family in OoT, and Klaton is interested in understanding monsters because his ancestors were turned into monsters.
*Kilton.
It is possible, though unmentioned so canonicity isn't there, that there was a part of the contract that they ignored and that was the result of it. For example, the spider was mentioned at the end. What if one of the conditions of the contract is to either worship or pay a tribute of some kind and defaulted on it?
"Pay no attention to the figure standing behind you"
Hah! Jokes on you. I'm laying in bed, my back against the mattress!
Unless, the underside of my bed is....
Oh no....
I had the same exact line of thought XD
Oh yeah it exactly what it is😏
Did you know that spiders only curl up when they die because they use blood to move their legs not muscles like us, so essentially they are just boner bugs
Edit: also the demon of hateno village sounds more likely than the other two
I mean... You're not wrong 😂
B O N E R. B U G S.
Wooooooow
"Don't worry hun, they aren't spiders. They're bones bugs" lol
I actually find spiders kinda cool. Yes, they’re disgusting, and I‘d run for dear life if I saw a spider even only as long as my pinky, but they’re still kinda cool; because spiders are THE symbol of power, fear and cruelty in their weight class.
Spiders are the sharks of their surroundings. Sure, there is the occasional bird or lizard who is having a feast, and even other insects or spiders, but generally, like sharks, spiders are the top predator in their environment. Which is also why, if you scale them up to massive sizes, they are so imposing; A giant fly or giant ant are not nearly as imposing as a giant spider, as with a giant spider you can immediately tell that it considers everything smaller than itself, which includes you, as prey.
Pretty much, I don't really get why people disrespect predators so much these days. Like they just do what they do, which is powerful and should be understood. I won't ever 100% oot despite it being my favourite game EVER because I find it out of adult Link's character to hunt down spiders for no reason then money. That's more like something Ganon would do lol.
@緑ヒーローの仮面
Ok like that's a reasonable way to think, cos I love spiders and it's so irritating how every human hates them, the spiders being enemies in Zelda sort of ruins parts of the games for me due to how weird it is that a natural predator acts as a villain like wat y
@緑ヒーローの仮面
I wanna see skulltullas too tbh, not as threats or anything, just as animals like you know, boars or deer or lizards from botw. I like the whole 'overcoming fear' idea, but surely saving or helping the spiders is more of an overcoming deed than just killing them bcuz of fear. I think there's hope for spiders in future Zeldas, but I'm still disappointed at the weird skulltulla quest in MM and oot. After all, Link is supposed to be good, so the spider quests didn't really make much sense in oot and MM lol
The spiders from Skyrim are my worst nightmare >
@@luthiamoonlightfrqc2905
People who hate spiders for no reason are mine m8
“Pay no attention to the figure behind you”
Dude, if there was someone behind me, they would either have to be inside my couch, or in my backyard in the rain/snow
Okay for tale sake let just say it a snowman
"Arachnophobia Warning"
Well, looks like I'm not going to be watching or listening to at least some of this.
I arachnophobic
This is the best day ever. First Zeltik then NBC, Hyrule Gamer and now YOU!
Don’t forget monster maze
@@josephjoestar699 MM did one as well. Fuck! I need another beer!
there's also SuperZeldaGirl :)
@@josephjoestar699 my comment was posted before he uploaded
@@puline397 Good lord. You got me drunk last night. All your fault. You put the beer in my hand when you told me about another channel.
Bandit: "It's halloween. How deep can I get my voice?"
Underrated
I always figured the Shiekah, Royal family or one of the many Goddesses within Zelda, cursed them for their apparent greed being the richest family of Hyrule
I was going to say, you don't have to be a thief to be greedy. They could have just been the richest family in the world, even richer than the Royal Family, and having that much well while there are still people that sleep outside in your kingdom, that's enough for me as a goddess to punish you with a curse
@@SeanLaMontagne my exact point, with as much wealth as they have/had they were apparently greedy with their ways, but hard to truly say, I wish Zelda games shared more details on the vagueness of certain topics, such as this one, or at least hinted toward them in other games with a bit more details, but outside of Ocarina of time the family isn’t mentioned, though I’m aware there are two cursed in Majoras Mask, but with it being basically it’s own land it’s unluckily they’re from that family and cursed for the same reasoning
as soon as you hear mnb's deep and creepy voice, you know its gonna be a good video
He truly is a great horror story teller
@@maddiearnold1308 imdeed
Believe it’s the spirit in the horn statue
Thats what she said.
@John Marinelli she in this case is a magic pixie dream girl.
“Pay no attention to the figure standing behind you...”
Excuse me while i vacate my body 😱
I think the answer is obvious, its cause by the most suspicious, creepiest, character in all of Zelda... Tingle.
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I'm actually thankful for the warning because I actually have a fear of spiders.
But you know what...I also love Bandit's videos so I braved the overwhelming sense of dread and fear and watched this video 😂
I literally just finished collecting the last 6 skulltulas on my OOT 1.0.
Fourth possibility, they hunted/killed the Golden Spiders for their gold, possibly to extinction which is how they got to become rich. Their greed however was rewarded by them being cursed and transformed into skullettas themselves as punishment, and the tokens were transformed into Skullettas or something along those lines.
in summary: don't ever make a deal with the devil
Or spider gods
Or zunt
Everyone gives the demon statue a bad rap however she never let's you go below 3 hearts because it'll kill you so she's not that bad
But you can have both Max hearts and Max stamina, so he's lying to you
It's a boi
The theory with the demon of Hateno Village sounds the most compelling to me. The other ones have the least likelihood to me, not enough supporting evidence for them.
MNB: Pay no attention to the figure standing behind you...
Me: turns around to see my dog with a knife in its mouth.
that wasn't a joke BTW.
Why did your dog have a knife?
@@hollymaccharles1315 it's something she doses, I think she thinks it a toy or something. I don't know how she keeps getting them but she does.
@@prtfdc2 Yo you need to hide your knives better!
@@insertnameornoun6637 yeah, but she also can kitchen
cabinets
your dog's just emulating her heroes, Sif from Dark Souls and Amaterasu from Okami
The figure standing behind me got upset I was ignoring them and started crying :(
MNB! You're brilliant again! Thanks for the great Halloween-themed theory! Keep up your great work!
MNB: Pay no attention to the figure standing behind you.
My Girlfrind: WHAAT? 😢
Your voice sent chills down my spine. Good video man. I think the golden skulltuala might work best since the family is greedy, so they probably heard of the golden skulltula, stole a picture, then moved to kakariko to find it. As for Jovani, it's probably the demon statue, since there's nothing about a skulltula in Jovani's case, and why would the family turn to skulltula while he was made into a statue?
MNB: pay no attention to the figure standing behind you
Me, violently turning around: 👁 👄 👁
I think they eventually give you the Giant's Wallet when you free the entire family. I always wondered why they were cursed and who put the curse on them.
Notice how the father looks a whole lot like the thief that snatches the old lady's bag in Majoras Mask.
I could have sworn the thief in Majoras Mask was the counterpart to a guy running around in castle town
@@williamdrum9899 Yeah,the guy smiling and running around. I remember
My theory in that the family was cursed by the Hylian equivalent of Mammon the embodiment of greed. To cement the idea, in Helluva Boss Mammon has a spider motif.
Maybe it was the goddess Hylia. Only one person could lift their curse. To travel all over Hyrule and even through time to completely defeat them all. And being able To get all the tools needed to access them all (the hookshot to get into the forest temple for example).
Imagine if it’s just the sheika, or even impa. Like, they took the stone of agony (out of greed) and impa or some other sheika cursed them to become what lives in dark caves underground, a skultulla. Idk it’s just a thing i came up with right now.
The golden spider picture theory is interesting but I don't think it should count because it was added by Grezzo and not Nintendo. I think that it's like the carvings in hyrule castle in twilight princess. This is just my opinion.
I have arachnophobia but it was very calming to see the non violent friendly Skulltulas cause those scare the shit out of me lol
Off topic, but your voice is so nice and really calming! Even when you're talking about creepy stuff X3. I often watch your videos to relax, so, thank you for making your content!
Dude, you have the best voice for this sort of creepy video. Gave me chills! Also made me think that you'd be great at ASMR lol
Today has been such an awesome day. All my fav ZeldaTubers uploaded spoopy videos and this is just the icing on the cake 😍😋
Always nice to see a new video from you and tbh i never noticed the spider picture in kakariko
I've been a proponent of the Horned Statue being behind the spider's curse and Jovani ever since BotW came out.
I live on an island where spiders can get as big in diameter as my torso. Scares me every time i see one hangin in a tree but LOZ has trained me to maneuver past them 😅
I wouldn't be surprised if the demon of hateno village was locked into a form not it's own and had the ability to shape shift, making it more dangerous. Seeing that Link is trading stamina for health, I wonder if they were trading their health for gold.
I think the demon idea would be the most interesting but I think the golden spider theory is more likely. It would be really cool if they were all connected but I'm not sure there is enough evidence to say that they're related so I'm thinking Poes and the demon are less likely ideas.
I think the Golden Skulltula possibility is the most likely, simply by wording that the father says, "the Spider's curse" not the spider curse, its possessive, its proper, a curse by a specific spider, which I think lends credibility to the skulltula picture on the wall.
Maybe the golden Skulltula isn't a being but an object. The golden spider picture 9:02 could be an artefact, which the family raided (maybe even from the Sheikah?), which burdens a curse and a blessing. Whatever the skull of the golden Skulltulas touches will turn into gold.
The family touched various objects with the skull and hoarded the golden objects, like rocks, chairs, tables and so on in their house, so they piled their actual furniture to have more room. The blessing is to turn everything the spiders skull touches into gold.
But if you use the spider artefact for exactly 100 times, it turns everything it changed to gold into a golden skulltula spider. The golden chair, table, rock and everything else changes its form into a spider, fleeing across the world.
Now everyone tried to turn something into gold but the father was the most greediest, turning more then 50 objects into gold just for the sake of it. The golden spider artefact started shining and turned everyone who used it into a spider, maybe vanishing after that, maybe returning to its original place where it got stolen? Or maybe getting stored at a secret place in the house?
After releasing the curse this time the family will be more cautious to not get cursed again. After all they know how the curse works now, right?
On a side note, your videos are always amazing but it seems like the quality on this one (especially the intro) was on another level. Keep up the amazing theory vids 🥰
Don't forget not all Sheikah have red eyes or white hair. Blue eyes have been seen in people such as Rola, Pikango, Jerrin, Granté and Robbie. However, none have been seen with red/brown hair, so I'd say they are Hylian.
I think that it wasn't actually a change fate, but that the spider god thing saw that they were greedy and stealing for wealth, but when they asked him for more money, he cursed them instead to punish them for there greed. Nice video mnb!!!
Just sticking with Ocarina of Time here, not the remake with the added picture, I always chalked their curse up to them grave robbing from the Sheikah. That's why the Stone of Agony was in their possession. They were treasure hunters and businessmen. They could never get enough. They just kept searching for relics and valuables. Until they found Kakariko Village and started grave robbing from them. One day they took a little too much, and were cursed by the dark magic that still exists in that area.
On a separate note, I have always seen a resemblance between the rich family and the Happy Mask Salesman. Maybe there is a family connection through a side branch of the family, but the Salesman seems to be in the same kind of business as the rich family. He collects masks and seeks unusual magical powers such as the Song of Healing. He also managed to find Majora's Mask, which is said to be from a clan of dark magic users, which I always understood to be a reference to the Sheikah. I'm not saying Majora's Mask cursed the family, because I don't see anyone wielding it for that purpose before Ocarina of Time. Rather I see them being cursed by the same dark power that Majora's Mask was able to harness. Both dark magics are from the Sheikah, or at least it's the same dark magic that the Sheikah dabbled in.
There are other types of curses. Link can be cursed to the point where he cannot wield his sword. Link was also cursed to take the form of a Deku Scrub. Zelda I was cursed to sleep forever, and only the Triforce parts were powerful enough to break it. Ganondorf cursed the Deku Tree, Jabu Jabu, and Zora's Domain. The potion shop hag makes a medicine out of a forest mushroom that she believes will sustain the creepy guy in the Lost Woods. So it is likely that those who don't know how to defend against dark magic or are susceptible to it through their own dark impulses will end up cursed by it if exposed to places or things where such magic exists. Like Pamela's Father.
In Majora's Mask, is the swamp spider house. The mask of Truth was hidden in it and cursed. Considering who made the mask, I'm inclined to believe the sheikah probably had some hand in the curse of both games. Hell, even in Twilight Princess. We know from sharp and flat that sheikah can become Poe after death. And we know from breath of the Wild that there are some who aren't exactly upstanding citizens
Spider-Man Spider-Man does whatever a spider can! I have never thought this would work for a Zelda game so well...
I’ve always wanted to see this idea brought back as driders
in a game series where lion-headed centaurs exist and are hard as balls to kill depending on the game, the last thing that should happen is a spider-based *taur creature
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Yh I'm fed up of innocent predators in zelda being the bad guys although the series ethics directly contradicts this. I'd rather see a lion or spider in botw2 than a stupid monster creature
0:51 "it swiftly and acurately swoops down"... to knock you back and deal exactly a quarter heart of damage
I really enjoyed your theory and the video! And there is acually a spider house in Majora's Mask and when you lift the curse, the man tells you how he was cursed. Since Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask have some similar characters, maybe they were cursed in a similar/the same way
Oh! Congrats on 100 k! Been here since 60, and boy did you’re channel grow quick.
My theory is that the family were worshiping a demon, stealing, using dark magic, and Hylia just got fed up with it and created her own kind of demon that she could control. She promised them riches beyond their wildest dreams, and when they agreed, she made them look like the disgusting things they were becoming. She blurred the memories that the residents had of them, not erasing them, just making it so that they couldn't remember their names, yada yada. So Link could find them one day. She left the spider picture, so they family could be reminded of what they had become.
This is late but I like this
Well, joke's on you, dude, because my back is right up against the wall.
Oh yeah... are ..... you....sure👀
I am terrified of spiders? Yes. Did I listen to the arachnophobia warning? No.
No regrets. Awesome vid!
Mate, MNB his voice is creepy asf, and i love it !
I think he has one of those voices you could fall asleep to.
I think sometimes his voice is relaxing but sometimes it can sound creepy
If Link didn't help the gold dude from twilight princess then he would have died, someone would have stumbled upon his gold carcass thinking it was a statue and would try to sell it
This has to be one of my favourite theory videos! The whole vibe, the editing and the theory was fantastic!!
At 2:29 after he said "Don't pay attention to the figure behind you," I looked behind me to see my brother standing at my doorway with the hallway light on.
probably found a gold skulltula, the very first OG one, and wanted to capture it since it was solid gold. This is done out of greed and they probably kept said golden spider in captivity, which in turn got their butts cursed into being spiders themselves, and feeling trapped, as a taste of their own medicine
I'm going with the Golden Spider and Poe for each - Skulltula family cursed by a spider, Jovani cursed by a Poe. You have to kill the ones who cursed them in order to free them. Makes sense.
"...and pay no attention to the figure standing behind you."
Me: Oh, so they're in the wall?
So... here's my thoughts.
First off, I wonder if their greed took the form of them not being theives exactly, but not helping when they had the means to. They had wealth and people who could help build or defend the village, but maybe they simply refused to help, thinking that their wealth made them above such things. They didn't want to share what they had.
I wonder if it's similar to a Beauty and the Beast sort of story, where in order to break the curse, they must kill the 100 golden skultulas. But, because of their cursed forms, they can't go out and search for the spiders themselves without the risk of being attacked by heroes, guards and frightened villagers. And because they refused to help others, they're cursed to try to ask others for help but will be refused because of their monsterous forms. People who knew them before their transformations might not help in fear of a monster's trick.
Until Link shows up. The key to breaking their curse isn't wealth or riches or fortune, but tapping into their humanity. Reaching out and asking for help. And at the end, they do end up giving their wealth away in gratitude for Link saving them.
Expanding an idea. They have a face much like Happy Mask Salesman's, and easily could be related. Though what if his goal of "bringing happiness" is an attempt at penance for his family's wrongdoings?
How could it be the happy mask salesman? The curse affected the entire family long before he makes an appearance. If it was his family, he would be a spider thing too
I had a theory (and I may have been influenced by the Majora's Mask version) but I thought it'd be interesting if Link was actually dead. The intro starts with what looks like a light at the end of a tunnel, and Zelda telling Link to wake up. We know that Link was mortally injured before the coma, and those memories you collect could be your life flashing before your eyes. Does this sound dumb or is it old hat?
Maybe it was all of them together. Like Link maybe the demon has an animal form, so he turned into the golden spider. And his normal form is a spirit of some sorts. The demon was doing that until he got in cased into the statue.
(lol sorry for my bad english, it's lake. I just had this idea and wanted to share it)
All I can think of now is "The Horned Statue with spider legs".
*I wish The Horned Statue was a spider.*
While I'm certainly not an expert on the matter, I think i remember a (japanese?) bit of folklore about a man cursed for killing a spider. (Or Maybe rewarded for not doing so?) I feel like there was a punishment aspect to the story though. Possibly related.
Imma need Halloween to come around more often for the voice quality!😌
I'm thinking it could be like the guy in the mummy being eaten by the beatles, the people in the house collected a certain amount of the golden spiders and they came to like and bit each family member cursing them to be like them and partly human and only killing them could release the curse.
I believe the being trapped inside the horned statue of Hateno Village is responsible for the Skulltula Family curse. Mainly because the being says they've made deals involving money and greed before, which lead to their entrapment.
These spiders in twilight ALWAYS scared me as both a kid and even now.
I'm willing to bet that the Skulltula family in Ocarina specifically weren't cursed by an individual spirit or creature per sé.
I think it's more that their greed tainted their mortal form and turned them into monstrous beings, in line with how humans who gave in to selfish desires like jealousy could turn into yokai in Shinto beliefs.
Now that has a more solid basis for explanation.
I agree, but why spiders? They are innocent animals, superior to humans and are respected as kami spirits in shintoism
@@linkthepig4219 it goes both ways actually. A Japanese superstition tells that seeing a spider in the morning brings good fortune while seeing one in the evening brings bad luck.
But as far as Shinto goes, I could only find antagonistic representations in the Tsuchigumo and Jorogumo.
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Yh I really hate parts of shintoism. I AM a shintoist, but the negative representations of boars and spiders is just pathetic, part of the religion that clearly contradicts itself
I think the golden skulltula in the painting is the original form of the hateno demon who uses poes as his servants. The poes being people he made deals with and turned them into ghosts.
I love your videos so much, you are probably my favourite Zelda youtuber
I feel like the face of the Cursed Rich Man is used a lot.
"and pay no attention to the figure standing behind you."
me, taking a shit:
Attempt 5 of watching this video was finally a success. I kept trying to watch it but I always had to leave before I finish
I thought that the family was somehow related to the Happy Mask Salesman when I first played OoT, since there's a strong resemblance with the hair color and facial expression. And when I played MM and found the skulltula quest in that game to get the Mask of Truth, it made me think that the skulltula house was where the Happy Mask Salesman found the Mask of Truth and the curse was put on them by Majora in the hands of the Happy Mask Salesman when they tried to charge him an excessive amount for the mask.
I think the Hateno Statue Demon is most likely, but I also like the idea that they were cursed by the Sheikah. The Kakariko family maybe stole the Stone and that's why they were cursed. Jovani maybe did something to piss off some sheikah and was cursed because of that.
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The ghost salesman could have been the one who cursed the family as well
I think that the second theory is the most logical as I don't think it is really confirmed how long he was hard, as a result for Hylia, for. So he could have easily been around during the events of ocarina of time, like Mr MNB said in the video
Ganondorf is also versed in curses such as the case with the Great Deku Tree, and the exact same Ganondorf participates in all three games.
While Ganondorf himself may not have performed the curse, it would not be out of the question to consider him a 3rd party to the act, because Skulltulas and Poes are both minions of his.