Things You Should Know About the Corrosion Issue on the Jeep WranglerJL and Gladiator JT.

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  • @XXPS60
    @XXPS60 9 місяців тому +6

    Maybe you should consider a review on the POOR electronics all the CDJR vehicles are plagued with. When the radio starts to delaminate all the electronics in the Jeep fail. Not just the radio, heat, air everything goes OUT! Jeep knowes this and has for years. They offer no assistance to the consumer once this happens. It'll cost you up to $1800.00 to repair with no guarantee it won't happen again. STAY AWAY from Jeeps!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  9 місяців тому

      I feel your frustration with your Jeep. I read many similar complaints on Jeep Wrangler Forums and on Jeep FaceBook Club posts.

  • @grizzbuck
    @grizzbuck Рік тому +31

    Thank you for continually keeping this issue known to the buying public! Well done informational video.

  • @mathewdesantis7481
    @mathewdesantis7481 Рік тому +21

    Thanks man for the update on an issue that has been plaguing me with my 2019 rubicon unlimited. So far only all of my hinges were affected. Dealership quickly and quietly painted all 4 doors. Sadly it’s never quite the same as the factory in regards to QC. GOOD TO KNOW THAT ITS NOT JUST A CANADIAN ISSUE. We all bought these jeeps knowing that a June bug would destroy the windshield, and that we were going to pay an arm and a leg to drive this amazing looking vehicle to every gas station but I don’t think anyone thought that we would be dealing with corrosion/oxidation/paint bubbling and flaking after 1 and a half years in my case

  • @tonynicholson2697
    @tonynicholson2697 Рік тому +5

    Thank you Dino! You helped me dodge the Jeep JL paint bubbling debacle. Your videos and articles helped me select the right Jeep Wrangler unlimited for me. Which ended up being a 2016 Jeep Wrangler unlimited 75th anniversary model in black, with only 57,000 KMs.
    I take delivery on the 25th of August 2022!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Tony,
      Awesome! Nice find! You’re going to enjoy it for sure.
      Cheers

    • @marksuslenkov8757
      @marksuslenkov8757 Рік тому

      Hey there! How did you dodge the paint problem?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      I believe he bought a JK instead of a JL.

  • @Technomage1700
    @Technomage1700 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for providing sources. You rock!

  • @lescard3870
    @lescard3870 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for bringing this up. I’ll have to keep my eyes on not only my 2022 but also my 2014

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Les,
      Yes keep an eye on the 2022 for sure as this corrosion issue applies to JLs, your 2014 is a JK.
      Cheers

  • @fordwzrd236
    @fordwzrd236 Рік тому

    Dino, thanks for the info. I learn more from your channel. Thanks for keeping it real.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Mid-Life Crisis Adventures,
      Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad to hear that you find the videos helpful.
      Cheers

  • @ctr_1602
    @ctr_1602 Рік тому +1

    I love how informative this channel is. You kindly breakdown everything nicely 👍🏼. PS I own a 2918 JL Sport but in white so it’s a little less noticeable but it’s there alright

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Thank you for your feedback on the channel. I’m glad you find it informative. Feel free to share!😝
      Sorry to hear you have the dreaded corrosion issue on your Jeep as well.
      I’ve come to believe that only replacement of the offending body panels will fix the issue. My hinges were replaced and there was no further signs of continued corrosion. My doors were repaired/repainted twice and then the corrosion returned again. Now that I’m buying the parameters of the warranty, further repairs would be at my cost. It’s not a great place to be after buying such an expensive new vehicle. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @cindybarrette794
    @cindybarrette794 Рік тому +3

    Thank you so much for the information! The mechanic at the dealer and I found tones of bubbles on my 2019 JL bikini pearl. Sadly though, it’s not all on the aluminum. The dealership and Jeep Canada are taking their sweet a$$ time taking care of the issue that I feel they are playing me out of my warranty. Your links are super helpful. Keep it up as I’m a great fan of yours!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Cindy,
      Thank you.
      I'm sorry to hear of your paint issue, and the warranty hassle.
      I too was dragged through a long time of BS when trying to address this issue on my Jeep.
      I hope the information shared in the video can be of some use to you.
      Good luck.
      Cheers.

    • @marceld6061
      @marceld6061 Рік тому +2

      As long as you have made a claim before the warranty expires, FCA/ Stellantis can take as long as they want but they are still on the hook for the repair. It is based on 'date of claim'.

  • @scottross5977
    @scottross5977 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the follow up and additional info, Dino. 😎👍

  • @georgesebastian6306
    @georgesebastian6306 Місяць тому

    Gino! I am a recent follower. This just popped up in my suggestions probably because of recent searches. My 2020 JLU is in the shop for bubbled paint. At least my dealer is replacing not repairing panels. Last year it was the Hood & hinges. This year it is all 4 doors and 8 hinges. I just got a call from the dealer and they are ordering a windshield frame due to bubbling on it. I will need to keep an eye on the rear gate! You are the best!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Місяць тому +1

      Hey George, thanks for following along. I’m glad you found the corrosion video helpful. Feel free to share to get the information out there. Good luck with the replaced panels, wisdom out there says that is the best way to go.

  • @dougfinn
    @dougfinn Рік тому

    Was planning on upgrading my 2012. Won’t be doing that anymore. Thanks for the heads-up.

  • @WaitWhat-jy9ck
    @WaitWhat-jy9ck Рік тому

    So far I've experienced the corrosion issue on my door hinges and that was repaired by the dealership. I'll be checking the other areas closer for this. Thanks for the information.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Also, in other spots around the edge of your body panels. On mine as one area was repaired, more corrosion later appeared next to it.

  • @danielgale607
    @danielgale607 12 днів тому

    my overland gladiator is in right now getting done.... thanks for the video

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  11 днів тому

      You’re welcome. I’m glad you found the video helpful. Good luck with the job on your Gladiator. Cheers.

  • @randylowden1902
    @randylowden1902 Рік тому +5

    I traded a 2019 JL with a few problem spots. The dealership didn't care. I guess they know they can sell it to somebody who is unaware of the corrosion issue. So far my 2021 shows no signs but I know, it's only a matter of time. I'll get rid of it then. I bet this video opened up a few eyes!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Randy,
      Create thought of it, I would have appreciated it if someone had shared this information with me when I was looking for a vehicle. I hope the video is helpful for somebody.
      Cheers

  • @DUNEATV
    @DUNEATV Рік тому +4

    My 2021 Rubicon is so far so good! 25K hard wheeling miles and it’s been perfect!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey DUNE ATV,
      Awesome. I’m glad to hear. Hopefully it won’t appear on your Jeep. 🤞
      Cheers

    • @DUNEATV
      @DUNEATV Рік тому

      @@CheaperJeeperTV I’m in Arizona…I haven’t seen a Jeep yet with this problem

    • @SMoore-vj7bt
      @SMoore-vj7bt Рік тому

      ​@@DUNEATV as I suspected. As I wrote in my other comment deicing is also horrible for the environment.

  • @Cobracarrera21
    @Cobracarrera21 Рік тому

    Thanks for posting this Dino..Good to know...

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Cobracarrera21,
      You are welcome. It's good to get this information out to potential buyers so that they can be informed. I wish that I was aware of this when I made my purchase.

    • @Cobracarrera21
      @Cobracarrera21 Рік тому

      Just a bit of an FYI as well. We are having similar issues with home plumbing with copper pipes leaking with pin hole size leaks because 2 different metals are used. The copper pipes are attached to the studs using steel clamps which causes the same electrolysis issues over time.. many plumber friends mentioned this and I was surprised to hear.

  • @sunyaray1415
    @sunyaray1415 Рік тому

    Thank you for this informative video.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Sunya,
      You are very welcome. I just felt that this information was important enough to share it with others who could be affected by this.
      Cheers
      Cheers

    • @sunyaray1415
      @sunyaray1415 Рік тому +1

      @@CheaperJeeperTV I watch a few of ur videos Love Love!! ❤️

  • @saintbrando
    @saintbrando Рік тому

    I looked at 5 different 2018 JL to purchase last month,and only 1 out of the 4 was super clean. The other 4 had corrosion or oxidization on all the doors. It was the first thing I noticed but the one I chose is seriously clean. No corrosion at all. Nice video

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Saint Brando,
      At least you're aware and you can keep an eye open for this.
      Cheers

  • @davidshettlesworth1442
    @davidshettlesworth1442 Рік тому

    Thank you for this "Heads Up Video!" I cannot imagine the anger a Jeep owner would feel with only a few years or less time in the Mid Western states of Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, and others that use "deicing chemicals" on their roads! Carry On getting the word out to the citizens.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey David,
      Yep. Very much anger. FCA has been dealing with this in their TSB on vehicles as old as 2013!...I wish people put the word out sooner, so there would be fewer of us that are feeling so burned. I guess having a class action lawsuit out there helps get the word out more. Please feel free to share this information to help others make a better automobile purchasing decision.
      Cheers

    • @SMoore-vj7bt
      @SMoore-vj7bt Рік тому

      Damn glad I prefer warm, arid climates. Deicing is so bad for the environment also. I suggest this is the price you pay for choosing to live where you do and allowing your government to put toxic chemicals on the roads.

  • @ryannewazada2102
    @ryannewazada2102 7 місяців тому

    Great video topic on this matter.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  7 місяців тому

      Thank you. It’s beyond me why major influencers aren’t sharing this helpful information. Please feel free to share to help others.
      Cheers.

  • @bnplaza
    @bnplaza Рік тому

    thank you for your honesty regarding yyour jeep.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey B P,
      You're welcome.
      I just thought someone should let others know about this issue so that they could make an informed automobile purchasing decision.
      Cheers.

  • @MAJORGL0RY
    @MAJORGL0RY Рік тому +8

    I had my 2018 JLUR repaired under warranty. Jeep replaced both front doors and the rear driver door, and had a body shop repair my hood, and tailgate. I was initially very happy with the resolution…UNTIL I found that the door panes they used as replacements DO NOT have any welded seams! Most importantly around the channel that retains the weather stripping. So even though there is weather stripping there the channel that it sits in is not sealed against the door panel. There is anywhere up to 1/8” gap all the way around the bottom of the door. I didn’t notice this until driving down the interstate and wondering where the wind noise was coming from. That and the fact that there is a lot of air leaking into the car. Of course it was going into the winter when I discovered the air leak. I took it back to Jeep, they documented it and was presenting that information to Jeep for resolution. I didn’t get a response until late spring. So I had to use gaffers tape to seal the gaps to keep out the winter air and kill the wind noise for the winter! Jeep’s response was that “there was nothing wrong with the door panels…that’s how they make them now”. WHAT?! So I asked them how in the world will that keep water out of my vehicle is I were to ford a water crossing that came up over the bottom door sill? Crickets. Then I was later told that they will no longer work on the issue as they have completed the repair and there is nothing wrong with my doors. Where’s the middle-finger emoji?! Cause that’s what they gave me.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Wow. That’s brutal!!! Sorry to hear about your experience.
      Like I said in other replies, I wish I was aware about this issue before I purchased.

    • @peterodriguez5636
      @peterodriguez5636 10 місяців тому

      Please what Phone number of Chrysler Jeep did you contact
      I have called 3x & gotten Dealers 8 that for not inspect or give you a repair shop

  • @jasonward2686
    @jasonward2686 Рік тому +14

    I had worked as a body tech and a painter at a Jeep Dealer in Maryland for years. The only way we allowed to repair this issue was with brand new body panels. If the panels are repaired and not repaired they have wind up with a high repair failure rate. We did a couple Jeep Wranglers, GC’s a month. The parts supply issues during the pandemic did slow our pace a bit since we couldn’t get new doors for awhile.
    If a place is only repairing the panels find another place!!!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +2

      Hey Jason,
      That’s valuable information.
      FCA however will not fix it now due to my high kilometres in the Jeep. If I was in the US, their warranty is unlimited miles, so I’d be able to push for warranty work and maybe new panels.

    • @clifforddodson5459
      @clifforddodson5459 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the info.

    • @brianfiore9024
      @brianfiore9024 Рік тому

      Jason, is there a requirement to replace or is it left to the discretion of the facility? I'm looking at buying an 18 Rubicon in the next few weeks (it's trade coming to my favorite dealer) and want to know how to address this with the GM there. He's a stand up guy and I want to work out an understanding about the path forward if/when I have issues with it, should I decide to buy it. Thanks in advance!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +2

      @@brianfiore9024 My hinges got replaced on the second reoccurring corrosion incident, and so far they have not corroded again. The doors were simply repaired, upon the second reoccurring of corrosion, and now corrosion on my doors has reappeared for the third time. This would lead me to believe that the only solution would be to replace to corrupted parts, with clean ones. I have heard where a dealership replaced the persons doors. I hope this is helpful.

    • @gt5426c
      @gt5426c Рік тому

      @@CheaperJeeperTV I think you have cause to state that the issue was never properly fixed and they are still liable for the repair. You raised issue while the vehicle was under warranty and it was not correctly fixed.

  • @FLHTdriver
    @FLHTdriver Рік тому

    Another great video! I have seen this issue on aircraft "ALOT". And its extremely hard to get rid of it once its started. This is a really bad issue when aircraft sit outside when near salt water. One of the only ways to get it so stop is a solution of Alumiprep-33 now called BONDERITE C-IC 33 AERO before paint primer. I use the word stop when I should have said slow. If the dealer is just using primer when BONDERITE C-IC 33 AERO is needed as a base coat before primer its going to come back and relatively quick. Cleaning aluminum is really impossible since it develops a surface corrosion / oxidation within minutes after the surface is touched by air. I know this is an issue on Jeeps but you can use de-salt cleaner for boats that works well at flushing the crust of road salts off of the surface. Sorry did not mean to steal your info just wanted to add to it.

  • @brianadams6204
    @brianadams6204 Рік тому +21

    My wife and I are in the same boat with her 2019 Jl every hinge and the front of the hood have bubbling it's insane to pay $42k dollars for this too happen in only 3yrs of ownership.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      And like mine, keeps coming back after two repairs already!!!

    • @imghost6296
      @imghost6296 Рік тому +3

      I paid $67,000 right jeep JL wrangler unlimited Rubicon and my jeep was housed in my garage and only had 5400 original miles on it to this day. It took me a year and a half of fighting with Jeep corporate until they finally relented and agreed to fix my jeep. Then I had to go to 11 different jeep dealerships before I could find one that agreed to fix the problem since all the other jeep dealerships were all pain are their own pockets for each Jeep repair that they made even though it was Fiat Chrysler who fucked up an allowed the vehicles to be released and sold the customers anyway. Fiat Chrysler is most definitely negligent on this and every other recall that I’ve underwent since I’ve owned my jeep. I’ve done Chrysler‘s advertising for the last 35 years and I refused to buy a Chrysler up until I purchased my jeep because of the shitty quality. When I saw my jeep I fell in love with it and bought it off the lot only to be told by the dealership that they could’ve sold it 10 times over since I purchased it to other customers.
      Chrysler is famous for punting They’re problematic vehicles down the road the only way to hold Chrysler responsible is to get in their face and call corporate every single day until They agree to correct and mediate the problem that they created in the first place. If you are Chrysler I would simply pay for high-end materials in the first place instead of constantly cutting corners they wouldn’t constantly be in this position. It’s exactly why Daimler decided to pull out of the deal with Chrysler from the very beginning. Mercedes is known for their quality and they did everything they could to bring up Chryslers quality however Chrysler‘s management and ownership are absolute assholes they continue to do things the old ways which is they only care about profit over people. It’s a shame that they’ve scammed so many people are their money. This is the last jeep I’ll ever own I’d much rather buy a Ford bronco, a G wagon, A hummer or any other 4 x 4 other than a vehicle made by Fiat Chrysler ever again

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Wow. You clearly feel strongly about your buying experience. I can’t say I blame you after spending such money on a “new” vehicle only to be saddled down with problems.

    • @americanpatriot8996
      @americanpatriot8996 Рік тому

      Is it just me or your background music sounds like a 1970’s porno

    • @JeepTJWheelin
      @JeepTJWheelin Рік тому +2

      @@imghost6296 Lesson learned. I will never buy any Jeep after '06. They are absolute garbage.
      Jeep
      Born: 1941
      Died: 2006
      It was a good run, but it's over. At least we have CJ's, YJ's and TJ's that we can restore and maintain that will last.

  • @oceanwinds2584
    @oceanwinds2584 5 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for this video. My 07 Jeep JK had this issue. I never fixed it. I have a 2021 Wrangler Rubi with no issues so far. If/when it does happen, I will fix it myself. Knowing it won’t perforate…I feel better.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  5 місяців тому

      I agree, it’s good to keep a positive spin on it, in that the aluminum will only corrode, making the paint flake, and not will not disintegrate as rust would do to steel. Cheers

  • @betweenthepines4000
    @betweenthepines4000 Рік тому +1

    I used to service and repair aluminum fuel trailers. This is the perfect example as to why our manufacturers don't paint the barrels. It allowed our wash team to acid bath the trailers and remove any surface corrosion after winter. I know it’s different on cars but damn this sucks. Hope my 22’ JT has been addressed on this issue.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey there BetweenThePines,
      If you hear that they have done anything different, please share with us the link. Thanks

  • @marcklemens9152
    @marcklemens9152 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Hope to see you at Canada Jeep show!,

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Marc,
      I am actually on my way there now!!.See you there.
      Cheers.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      What a great show!!!!! I have lots of things to share with viewers in next weeks video!!!

  • @carlenebrooks3589
    @carlenebrooks3589 Рік тому

    I am in Canada with a 2019 Sahara 4 door and JUST noticed this issue yesterday. I am Very disappointed. This is my first Jeep and I was hoping to have it for a long, long time. I do love everything about a Jeep and have wanted one since I was a teenager. Now upon further digging I am noticing this corrosion all over from others. You are correct in saying that even if you go with a different brand the same may occur mainly because most companies are switching to aluminum as opposed to steel. I do somewhat regret not getting a 2018 JK when I was looking at the time. I really love the LEDs and the front grill of the JLs (what was my deciding factor). Now with only 49K kilometres at 4 years old my Jeep has corrosion around the hinges and down by the drivers bottom door. I am questioning when I go to my dealer if I should just demand new doors and not just repainted. From reading previous it appears by touching up the repairs as in your video the bubbling comes back. It leads back to prep prior to the door being painted. Oh what to. So frustrating

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Carlene,
      That's what I believe too. If the doors are already contaminated or improperly primed, the corrosion will creep around and appear over time. Mine were "repaired" twice, and the corrosion appeared again on the same doors, buy just slightly in a different position, so given I am over the warranty limit in kilometres, they refuse to repair it saying it isn't in the area of the previous repair... The hinges corroded twice, they replaced them, and the new hinges have not shown any signs of corrosion. I wish they replaced the doors like they did the hinges. I AM aware of someone who had his doors replaced.
      On my painted doors and other repaired panels, the dealer did an absolutely horrendous repaint job. It is so disappointing.
      I am not sure how to launch a class action lawsuit in Canada, but maybe should investigate that.

  • @Cobracarrera21
    @Cobracarrera21 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if adding a rubber gasket in-between the door hinge and the body of the door would stop the 2 different metal electrolysis issue.. as mentioned before this is a issue I just learned about in home plumbing where 2 different metals are used and small pins hole occur over time and cause leaks. Many copper pipes are affixed to studs using steel clamps.. I had a few leaks happen and was told by many plumbers about this electrolysis issue occurring there as well.. 2 different metals can cause this.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Maybe that addresses the corrosion around the hinge, but it also occurs elsewhere on body panels nowhere near the steel bolts.
      Whatever the reason, if FCA wont address this, given that the TSB addresses vehicles with aluminum panels since 2013, wary buyers may want to know when considering a purchase.
      Cheers

  • @petemarron6677
    @petemarron6677 Рік тому +2

    Not sure what a keelomiter is , but I feel for you. I'm glad I have a TJ

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Pete,
      I kilometre is .6 miles. In a lot of ways the JL is a huge upgrade from earlier models of the Wrangler, but the JLs corrosion issue is something new buyers need to take into account.
      Cheers.

  • @markmilostan2493
    @markmilostan2493 Рік тому

    I have two small areas on my hood color black. 2018 JL. Was really surprised. This is good.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Mark,
      Good luck getting it looked after under warranty.
      Cheers

  • @mylesl2890
    @mylesl2890 Рік тому +4

    will be very interested to learn the. results of the class action. ...hope we win big

  • @dimitrisvotsaris1817
    @dimitrisvotsaris1817 5 місяців тому

    thanks for your VERY useful videos but I'll ask you: but what about your tyres DURATRAK? I should like to know your opinion.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  5 місяців тому

      Hey Dimitris,
      They were great!!! I would recommend them.
      Cheers

  • @marauderhot
    @marauderhot Рік тому

    My aluminum boat and my hot water heater both have sacrificial zinc anodes, I wonder if they were attached to the aluminum body panels if that would help.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey David, are those parts submersed in water to aid in the process?

  • @craigversetti5700
    @craigversetti5700 8 місяців тому

    My 19 JLU has had the doors ( all 4 ) painted twice , the hinges as well now is back again on two doors 4 hinges the hood & tailgate !!!! After all the time and money dumped into it i almost have it back to stock . TRADING IT IN !!! it seems to be somewhat rare in my area since there's only a handful of Jeeps in the clubs we belong to so im hoping i can find a 23 Gladiator that won't give me the same issues but we know the hand you shit in fills up way before the other hand doors with hopes & wishes so ill prob ger screwed again with the new one !!! Great video thanks here is luck to all is keep owners !!!!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  8 місяців тому

      Hi Craig,
      I understand why you still want to have a Jeep. Googling luck.
      Cheers.

  • @EverydayATV
    @EverydayATV Рік тому +1

    I did a video on this same issue on our ‘19 Rubicon several months back. Waited 4 months for the appointment and then the body shop had it for 4 weeks. Only saving Grace was that they provided us with a Grand Cherokee loaner. We just got it back. They repainted the hood and all 4 doors. The paint looks as good as factory but if it comes back, we are dumping it. It’s a tots joke that Jeep can’t seem to correct the underlying issue.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Well I wish you the best. I loved my Jeep but after the corrosion came back for the third time and being out of warranty I moved on and bought another brand’s pickup truck. It’s a shame. Jeep won’t get business from me again.

  • @frogthefrog
    @frogthefrog Рік тому

    Is this happeniing to ALL types of exterior colours?
    I'm asking because I remember Honda having a flaking paint issue that affected certain coloured paints.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      From what I have read on forum posts, nobody has determined if it is just happening to certain colours. Sorry I don't have more on that.

  • @jagers4xford471
    @jagers4xford471 Рік тому

    Perfect sales pitch for a new Bronco. Thanks, this news made up my mind.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Jager,
      I did
      Mention in the video that getting an other type of vehicle may have its own issues, so…keep that in mind when deciding what to get. I just thought that given this information about the corrosion issue, some people might appreciate knowing about this. Feel free to share this to help others.
      Cheers

    • @MOPERY609
      @MOPERY609 Рік тому +1

      LOL , guess you never looked into the issues with those piles of shit.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      @@MOPERY609 Hey mike, I thought I did, but didn't come across any mention of FCAs aluminum panel issues. Thats why I wanted to put the word out there about this...feel free to share.

    • @MOPERY609
      @MOPERY609 Рік тому +1

      @@CheaperJeeperTV I was referring to the new broncos, wait until the op reads about the 2.7 engine failures.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Ahhhh! Ok!!!

  • @ronniecopeland831
    @ronniecopeland831 Рік тому

    Great information video, glad I still have a JK. 🥂 Dino🥂

  • @Daddio69er4p
    @Daddio69er4p Рік тому

    My 2020 Gladiator with less that 30,000 miles my hood is doing it but there going to fix it you know why it's under Warranty good video and God bless

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Robert,
      Keep an eye on it. It may come back, as mine has twice already. The hinges had been replaced, and the corrosion did not come back there. The doors were just repaired and corrosion is appearing now for the third time. I guy I know heard about had his doors replaced. I'm thinking that is the solution. Replacement with panels not contaminated or panels properly primed. Just a guess from what i am seeing.
      Cheers

  • @marauderhot
    @marauderhot Рік тому

    I live in the Mojave Desert very dry. Any idea if there is a problem in the dry areas?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      David, I'll have to go check the incidents reported in the forums to say with certainty.

  • @edwarddilellio6051
    @edwarddilellio6051 Рік тому +19

    Thank you for the info. You have helped me decide to get the 4Runner instead. Had a 2000 Toyota Tacoma years ago. Rust/frame issue. The Tacoma was 10 years old, 115k miles on it. Toyota bought the truck back from me at 150% street value with an apology from Toyota. Shame that Jeep lost me today as a customer. C'mon Jeep, repeat customers is where the $ is!!!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +5

      Hey Edward,
      I frequently compare in my mind how Toyota handled that situation in comparison to how FCA addresses issues now. I made this video because I wished someone shared this with me when I made my purchasing decision.
      Cheers.

    • @edwarddilellio6051
      @edwarddilellio6051 Рік тому +5

      @@CheaperJeeperTV Funny thing...I own a 1976 Jeep CJ7 in near mint condition. Still have the original keys and the Jeep still has the American Motors emblem on the back. They truly don't make them like they used to.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +2

      Wow. That sound nice. 👍

    • @gtamantube
      @gtamantube Рік тому +3

      Ahh you missed out on a lot of fun taking the top down; we have a 4Runner too and while very reliable it is also very boring; we keep it around paid off for an extra car but I don’t grab it on purpose

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Рік тому +3

      @@gtamantube it ain't fun if it don't work.... Modern wranglers are trash....... Last Real and reliable wranglers we're the TJ generation, and you can make a strong argument as the best one of all time..........modern Wranglers are middle American Mercedes Benz...... All Bling bling no go go..........

  • @masterbilllauer8531
    @masterbilllauer8531 Рік тому +1

    Does Rustolium Paint, & or Rino Liner Paint, help so No rust... Will show up on JL, & or JT, Jeeps???

  • @tmw1955
    @tmw1955 Рік тому

    Hi Thank you for the info I have a 2021 JL Wrangler no issues yet but I will keep a close watch on everything Im thinking of getting the vehicle undercoated with Krown hoping it will help some with the underneath at least Thanks again keep the vids coming

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey tmw1955,
      You may want to check out my Rustproofing related videos. Tips, and DIY.
      Keep in mind that Krown is a good product, but it doesn't warranty your frame from rust. Check out the warranty. I even called them to verify it.
      Cheers

    • @tmw1955
      @tmw1955 Рік тому +1

      @@CheaperJeeperTV Hi Thanks for the reply good to know & I will check out your vids on rust proofing Not sure what to do though just want some extra protection Pretty sad what FCA is doing considering the amount of money we pay for these vehicles hoping the class action lawsuit does some good for al the owners Anyway have a good day take care

    • @robertzimmerman3980
      @robertzimmerman3980 Місяць тому +2

      I had my 2020 Rubicon undercoated and still got the paint issues on the hood and doors !!! I’m 73 years old and this my 14th Jeep, first on was a CJ 5 and never had any problems until I got the Rubicon ! Have had in twice noisy lifers and replaced the cam phazer also !

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Місяць тому

      Sorry to hear you’ve been inflicted with the corrosion issue in your Jeep.

  • @williamh6547
    @williamh6547 Рік тому

    I definitely agree, I mean you expect the paint to last as long as you have the car, unless you scratch it or whatever. I will point out that more times than not it's the prepping of the metal before painting which is the issue, all metals must have the oils removed through degreasing before priming etc, when this is not the case, gassses form and begin to bubble the paint. Yeah so for me, I paid over 80,000 for mine, paint better last till I mess it up 👍👍

  • @RoseMaryLopez
    @RoseMaryLopez Рік тому

    My dream vehicle is Jeep Wrangler! I only got it 6months ago but broke down 3 times since I got it because of
    over heat , second was December and after two weeks death wobble again I have extended warranty but the things that need to get fixed is not covered paid $3k out of my pocket for repairs now is it time to let it go?
    PS it’s a Jeep wrangler 2014 has 96k Mileage when I got it.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey RoseMary,
      That will have to be your decision. Everyone has a different threshold for different things.
      My Jeep has this corrosion issue, and it doesn't bother some people, but for me, the prospect of continually dealing with flaking paint due to aluminum body panel corrosion was enough for me to sell and move on. I work too hard for my money to repeatedly throw it at a vehicle for repeated repairs, when it isn't necessary.
      In your case you seem to have recurring mechanical issues, and for some people, they pay for repairs and endure the inconvenience because they are hooked to the vehicle, but others might move on to something more reliable, and also more affordable.
      So...you have to decide, is there something about the Jeep you want so bad that you're prepared for possible more repair costs and inconvenience, or could there possibly be another, more reliable vehicle, that you might also still enjoy?
      Should you decide to move on, at least the resale on the Jeep Wrangler is relatively higher than on other vehicles.
      You can see what I ended up doing in this video...ua-cam.com/video/Ts71M5ibA2U/v-deo.html
      I hope this was helpful. Good luck with your decision.
      Cheers

  • @patrickbuick5459
    @patrickbuick5459 Рік тому

    I may have serious body rust and perforation on my 2004 TJ, but I keep finding videos like this as ammunition to repair, not replace!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Patrick,
      Its a lot of money to put out on a new vehicle, and if someone had shared what they knew about the TSB, it would have been certainly appreciated.
      I just felt that people should know about this issue so that they can make better informed purchasing decisions.
      Feel free to help others and share.
      Cheers.

  • @mikerobbins5049
    @mikerobbins5049 Рік тому

    My Jeep is a 2018 as well but I’ve never had a issue with corrosion . We do use salt on the roads during winters but we don’t have that much snow so mine has been exposed very little to the salt. Another reason might be that mine is garage kept.... Thanks for the info.....

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      I'm glad you're in good shape with respect to corrosion issue...fingers crossed it won't appear later. Cheers.

    • @bjornironsides6474
      @bjornironsides6474 11 місяців тому +1

      In this case, salt has nothing to do with it. It happens under the paint. Good luck!

  • @johnriegert9599
    @johnriegert9599 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice overview. Think this issue is growing exponentially. More and more cannot get warranty repair for months and even after all this time, no clear indication that Jeep has corrected the issue. The damage on my 3 YO 4Dr is extensive, 8 months waiting time for repair and will only get crushed if I try to get out from under from under it beforehand . Stuck. Love my Jeep but this has killed my enthusiasm. Class action lawsuit is not enough. Nice work on the video.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback on the video. I totally understand how you feel. Even though I had the corrosion repaired/repainted on my body panels, it kept coming back. It seems, from what I am reading on FB posts, the offending pieces must be replaced, and some are getting that done. I wish I was made aware of this before I bought. It surprises me that other UA-camrs aren’t discussing this. Feel free to share the info on this issue to help others.
      Best of luck.

  • @tobisreallifeskillswithtobi

    Thanks for sharing this! I do have the paint bubbling up as well and went to two Jeep dealers and both said if it is not corrosion I need to pay it to make me feel bad to avoid any work within those 5 years. I do have a Jeep Wrangler from 2020. I contacted FCA and they told me the following:
    "I have reached out to Dependable Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and spoke with Body shop Manager [...] regarding the matter. [...]. Alex advised your claim was submitted on your recent visit with them and the claim was rejected due to being outside of the basic (3years or 36/000 miles) warranty. [...]
    The corrosion warranty on your Jeep is for 5 years Unlimited miles which covers sheet metal panels that get HOLES from rust or other corrosion.
    Alex advised he can go ahead with the repair; however_ , once they get down to the metal if there is no corrosion and the issue is surface rust, the repair would be customer pay as surface rust would fall under the basic warranty which has expired."
    So what should I do? I am so disappointed and struggle at the moment with how to proceed. Any advise?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hi Toni,
      I can do a video on your case alone. Did you say they suspect surface “rust”? For starters, on your 2020, the body panels and hinges are aluminum and aluminum doesn’t rust. It corrodes. They should know this and use proper terms to address what is going on. I believe if there are no breaks in the paint then it’s hard to think of this as anything other than the aluminum oxidizing…corroding…which will NOT perforate the panel as long as that Jeep is in the road. That’s one of the main premises behind the Class Action lawsuit in the US launched against FCA in regards to this corrosion issue. Given you are in the US, I’d look the law firm up and get in on that.
      This is such a shame.
      Good luck.

    • @tobisreallifeskillswithtobi
      @tobisreallifeskillswithtobi Рік тому

      @@CheaperJeeperTV The last sentence is cop&paste from FCA's customer service: "once they get down to the metal if there is no corrosion and the issue is surface rust, the repair would be customer pay as surface rust would fall under the basic warranty which has expired."
      So let me ask the question, maybe I misunderstood. I only see bubbles above the hinges of my rear door (trunk door). Those bubbles, are those considered corrosion? It is so annoying that I will sell the car as soon as I have it back. I'm so annoyed with Jeep and those issues no one is really interested in fixing :(

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      I'm sorry you're experiencing the same issue as many others who have posted here, in forums and in FaceBook groups. I just don't see how it can be "any" kind of rust, as aluminum doesn't rust. You need iron(Fe) as found in steel panels to get rust.
      One might think that when the Jeep gets fixed, that is the best time to sell it for a decent resale value.

    • @richh5824
      @richh5824 Рік тому

      Lemon law laser asap

    • @bjornironsides6474
      @bjornironsides6474 11 місяців тому

      @@tobisreallifeskillswithtobi aluminum corrosion is not surface rust so you might have a shot.

  • @stevenpeterson659
    @stevenpeterson659 10 місяців тому

    I am also experiencing it in my JL around the front window by the hinge there.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  10 місяців тому

      Ah. Sorry to hear about that. I hope you get some resolution to the matter that is satisfactory to you.

  • @LuisPerez-13
    @LuisPerez-13 Рік тому

    Dino, the Jeep warranty you mentioned about corrosion is the standard one, extended? was something you got or pay extra... Time to look for mine...

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Luis,
      The warranty information was shared with me by a dealership service manager, and from what I read online. You're best to verify it with your dealership. If I find online collaboration, I'll add it to the description section and pin it in a comment as well.
      Cheers.

    • @LuisPerez-13
      @LuisPerez-13 Рік тому +1

      @@CheaperJeeperTV Sounds good... thanks

  • @RedJeepGladiator
    @RedJeepGladiator 10 місяців тому

    i think you addressed my question at the end, it won’t get ‘worse’ or actually start chipping / ‘rust-out’… than what it is, am i right? wonder what the worst cases look like … or what they will look like in 5 years… dealerships don’t have me sold on a permanent fix and the hassle and risk of causing new imperfections makes me lean towards just living with it… still interested to know how bad it can get and or worst case scenarios *edit* my bubbles are at the bottom right side of the tailgate, just noticed today while detailing …

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  10 місяців тому

      It won’t perforate, but I have seen pictures on Facebook of others who have gotten worse and the paint begins to chip off. Also, I believe, the only solution to fix it is to replace the offending component.
      Simply repairing/repainting only resulted in it coming back for the throes time for me. Sorry to hear about your rig experiencing the corrosion.
      Good luck.

  • @antonwilloughby2002
    @antonwilloughby2002 Рік тому +3

    Just found some corrosion on the hinges on the tailgate. Not sure what I an going to do yet but still love my JL and would do it all over again regardless.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Anton,
      I certainly can understand how you like your Jeep so much.
      Corrosion flaws in such an expensive and new vehicle, like on many JLs, and JTs is simply inexcusable. Especially in this day and age when the knowledge and practice is out there to do a better job.

    • @antonwilloughby2002
      @antonwilloughby2002 Рік тому +1

      @@CheaperJeeperTV I hear you. I've been fighting with a subtle ticking sound and after a turbo (and wastegate) replacement last year, tick is back and there is a timing chain waiting for me... thanks for all of your work into these videos!

  • @peterodriguez5636
    @peterodriguez5636 Рік тому

    I applied to the action lawsuit
    Thank you!!!

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      You are welcome.

    • @robertzimmerman3980
      @robertzimmerman3980 Місяць тому

      Could you please send me the link for this class action lawsuit ?! Thanks

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Місяць тому

      Here it is. In fact this link and others are in the description section of the video.
      www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/jeep-wrangler-corrosion-warranty-lawsuit.shtml

  • @fordwzrd236
    @fordwzrd236 Рік тому

    Hey Dino. Big John from Pittsburgh. Heck, I’m upset. I have corrosion on every door. I worked for Ford for 20 years here in Pittsburgh. I’ve seen first hand the bodyshop antics and I would hesitate to take my Jeep to any bodyshop. Living without a vehicle for weeks would be impossible. So now what do I do? Wish I would have bought a Toyota.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey John,
      If I could, I would trade mine in on a Toyota. I know it's not a popular decision for those watching this channel, but the bad corrosion problem on our particular Jeeps isn't something that's going to get better. I fear that every time I look and see another blistering paint area on my Jeep, I'd just get so angry each time. But...I just am not sure myself...I just can't believe that this is what you get after spending all that money on a "NEW" Jeep!

  • @FarmhouseFelts
    @FarmhouseFelts 7 місяців тому

    I feel you. I have 2018 JL and it’s every where on my doors and hinges, and it’s getting worse. I took it in to the dealer, and I was out of warranty by months so they won’t cover it. So now I don’t know what to do as I’m sure it will be thousands to fix. It’s pretty unfair as Jeeps are expensive and my Jeep is mint aside from this stupid bubbling of the paint. I’m interested in the lawsuit to see where it goes. This should be a recall issue. It’s a manufacturing defect that just won’t go away.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  7 місяців тому

      Hello FarmhouseFelts,
      I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing the same issues. There are many people out there who are facing this same issue.
      It will never be a recall, as it technically isn't a safety issue.
      Some people who are beyond warranty have contacted FCA direct, and received "Good Will" repairs to their corrosion. You may want to try that. Many however have reported the corrosion simply returns again.
      If I can try to help ease the frustration a little, corrosion will just make the paint bubble off, at least the panels will not disintegrate like what would happen with rust on steel panels.
      You'll lose money now if you trade it in. If it's mint and looked after well, you could consider keeping and enjoying it, and later when you learn where and how a proper repair can be done, pursue that option?
      As they say, "Misery Loves Company", and as such you may wish to learn more on this new Facebook group;
      "Jeep JL Corrosion Warranty Information"
      facebook.com/groups/975754000356535
      Cheers

  • @dougfinn
    @dougfinn Рік тому

    I was all prepared to trade in my 2012 on a new unlimited. Thankfully I found your video in time. I’ll sell my 2012 and look at a Toyota or Nissan truck.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey dougfinn,
      I'm glad you found the information in the video helpful. Good luck with your pick.
      Cheers.

  • @jamiemayer
    @jamiemayer Рік тому

    I have a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Mojave the metal in the rear bumper where the hooks come out is completely rusting out from last winter I haven't looked at it recently I figured I'm going to wait right before the warranty is up have them fix that also the door bolts that you take off to pull the doors off they're not black anymore they're turning white just awful

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Jamie,
      That sounds like a good plan. In fact, I'd make sure in advance that the dealership understands and is agreeable with the plan and timing. You'd hate to have left it 'till then, and have problems with them honouring it.
      Good luck.

  • @grassy-qb6qc
    @grassy-qb6qc Рік тому

    Rust runs deep in the jeep family. Now my family have been jeepers ever since I was a kid. Dad started with a 74 renegade and it was a rusty mess in a few years same thing with his 79 wrangler. He then bought an 88 cj7 the least rusty of the bunch but still rusted around the spring mounts and cracked lol. Then he picked up a 2002 that I currently own and the frame has literally rusted into beside the transmission crossmember and every body mount has major weight reduction plus the driver side front fender has a nice big hole in it. I honestly think that the mid to late 90s jeep wranglers have the best frames.

  • @LTUSATV
    @LTUSATV Рік тому

    The WK2 came out in 2011 and has an aluminum hood and has the same issue.

  • @christ7199
    @christ7199 Рік тому

    I have a 2019 Jeep Sahara. It's starting to corrode! I live in the US, so does this mean I still can take it back to the dealer for repairs?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Yes. I believe from what I have read online on forums and Facebook groups, replacing the corrupt part, be it hinges, door panels, windshield frame, etc, is the only solution. I believe repairing/ repainting will have the corrosion just come back. Good luck. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @jeffdavenport4939
    @jeffdavenport4939 2 місяці тому

    Interesting .. are there Certain years its Worse or Certain Colors ? I have a 2021 Sahara JL , just turned 3 years old . .. Snazzberry .. Northern Virginia

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  2 місяці тому

      I am not aware of any certain colours or years that are worse than others. Sorry.

  • @johnpark7846
    @johnpark7846 5 місяців тому

    are there any serious safety issues with this galvanic corrosion, or is it solely a cosmetic issue?

  • @scottmac182
    @scottmac182 Рік тому

    Reminds of an old saying fools and their money soon part

  • @mrqualityreviewer4752
    @mrqualityreviewer4752 Рік тому

    I have had 3 Jeeps and all have corrosion in some shape or form. I’m surprised they haven’t gotten it earlier I will do a video on this on my Jeep’s

  • @billjeffords1137
    @billjeffords1137 Рік тому +2

    My 2019 HellaYella JLU Sport has fallen victim on 3 of the 4 doors. I’m interested to find out how I can join the Class Action Lawsuit. I did take it back to the dealership and they approved it for “repair” not replacement. The quickest they could get me in was 3 weeks out and they promised me a loaner vehicle. Fast forward to day of drop off and guess what? “We never promised you a loaner, we don’t have any”. The Jeep is my only source of transportation to and from work. I left highly disgusted and angry. Needless to say the corrosion is still there and I’m at a loss of what to do next.
    On a side note I bought a 2005 Ford Expedition new and it did the exact same thing on the aluminum lift gate. Except 3 and 4 inch sections of paint popped completely off. Ford flat out refused to do anything about it.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Bill,
      Sorry to hear about the bad experience. It's good for people to know about this. If you look up articles on the class action lawsuit, the legal firm contact information is provided. You can contact them for information on the lawsuit.
      Good luck.

  • @KingTesticus
    @KingTesticus 11 днів тому +1

    American, 2020 Wrangler 4-dr.
    I noticed it starting on my vehicle in a couple of those same spots.
    My plan is simply to grind it out myself if it ever becomes necessary. I don't care if the paint matches perfectly, as long as the corrosion is arrested.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  11 днів тому

      Cool. Send me picture or videos and I’ll make an episode. Good luck. Cheers.

  • @trainday
    @trainday Рік тому

    Hi, nice video, I got a 2021 Willys never took care of my cars very well, well I wanted a jeep my whole life and now that I'm retired I bought one with my savings lots of money, 50 k. So now I have time to be meticulous with the paint and other upkeep. sapphire blue metallic gorgeous ceramic coated after 1 week then not even a rag has touched this vehicle just gentle washing but alas, last month I'm doing a1 year ceramic maintenance coat and you guessed it, looked at the hood hinge and seen it... W.T.F. I live in fl, no rust here haven't seen any rust, corrosion, or whatever on any vehicle I have had, since I lived up north 30 yrs. ago.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey James, FCA gave me the same retirement present...W.T.F. is right! It's a shame that is is the case, and even worse that hard working people like ourselves weren't made aware of the issue earlier!!! That's why I made this video, to help make others aware of the issue.

    • @bjornironsides6474
      @bjornironsides6474 11 місяців тому

      Rust happens everywhere. Some areas it is faster. All that's needed is exposed metal, air, and moisture. All of that is in Florida. So people that say they've never seen rust either never look underneath or are full of crap.

  • @MissusDoge
    @MissusDoge Рік тому

    I have a 21 JLU. No corrosion issues on mine. That said, I had an 08 Expedition that had the same corrosion problems on the aluminum body panels. It was the result of the aluminum not being prepped properly prior to paint. FWIW, I live in the salt belt.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing.
      I hope you have better luck with your JLU.
      Cheers

  • @johnluhrs3397
    @johnluhrs3397 6 днів тому

    I bought a 2021 used wrangler. Are used jeeps covered in the factory warranty?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  6 днів тому

      Yes. In the US, you have 5 years, unlimited miles I believe.

  • @jeffgillismba9552
    @jeffgillismba9552 Рік тому

    Does this issue apply to 22/23 model years?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Jeff,
      I believe Ive read in the forums and in this video’s comment section that it is still occurring on newer models.

  • @pjfan173
    @pjfan173 3 місяці тому

    Has the newer year models showing the same problems?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  3 місяці тому +1

      There is a Facebook group on the JL corrosion issue, and I believe I have read accounts on Jeeps as new as 2022. There is some mentioned about a zinc shim being applied under the hinges on 2024 models which would serve to Postpone the corrosion perhaps.

  • @lmcgbaj
    @lmcgbaj Рік тому

    2021 JL 4xe. Corrosion appeared 4 months after taking ownership. I am having it repainted now.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey GB,
      Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully it doesn’t reappear as it has been known to happen. Good luck.

  • @dsyncd555
    @dsyncd555 Рік тому

    I just went to the dealer for this today. We'll see what they say in a week.

  • @dallasormandy8600
    @dallasormandy8600 3 місяці тому

    I have an 18 JLU, and I had it repainted 3 times. Now no more warranty?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  3 місяці тому

      In Canada they have a kilometre limit on the warranty so I reached it and they sent me on my way. I am very
      Disappointed in FCA customer service. Not to mention that corrosion issue.

  • @onebridge7231
    @onebridge7231 Рік тому

    This sucks. I didn’t know about it. Thanks for the content. I have a 2020 Gladiator Rubicon and haven’t seen this happen to mine yet. I have 18,000 miles on it and live in Minnesota. I use my apartment’s car wash stall to rinse it down after the roads are salted in winter though. I guess I’ll just get fabric doors since I have the soft top! 🤷‍♂️

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      I hope your Jeep doesn’t end up with the corrosion issue.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      I hope your Gladiator doesn’t get the corrosion issue.
      Cheers

    • @bjornironsides6474
      @bjornironsides6474 11 місяців тому

      unfortunately, washing has little to do with this issue..it happens under the paint.

  • @AudiomateYVR
    @AudiomateYVR Рік тому

    How many kms does your jeep have? What’s their threshold to fix corrosion? I’m having the same issue and am worries they will tell me the same

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Are you in Canada or the US?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      In Canada, it is 3 yrs, or 160,000 kms. However, you have to call the dealership service department to find that out. It isn't published anywhere online to see. Plus, what I was told is in the US, it is 5 years, unlimited miles, but I can't verify that.

    • @AudiomateYVR
      @AudiomateYVR Рік тому

      @@CheaperJeeperTV I’m in Canada (BC). Thanks!

  • @zsbala99
    @zsbala99 Рік тому

    Btw love your Rims.

  • @GoldenK9Campers
    @GoldenK9Campers 6 місяців тому

    I'd really like to know if this issue also plagues jeeps in warmer/drier climates.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  6 місяців тому +1

      I think it does from what I’ve been reading. Check out the FaceBook group called “Jeep JL Corrosion Warranty Information “

    • @GoldenK9Campers
      @GoldenK9Campers 6 місяців тому +1

      @@CheaperJeeperTV Thanks much. I joined the group and posted a question on the southwest region. Also, I sent you an email. Hope to hear from you

  • @glenwhatley7366
    @glenwhatley7366 Рік тому +3

    I'm a certificated airframe and powerplant mechanic and deal with corrosion in aluminum structure on a near daily basis. Corrosion on aluminum structure is worse than corrosion on steel given how fast it can literally turn structure into dirt. I don't know what alloy jeep uses but in aviation the .out common alloys use copper for its high strength and conductivity. We will typically use a chemical conversion coating such as alodine (bond rite now) on top of primer and then paint to reduce chances of corrosion.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Glen,
      Thank you for your informed point of view. FCA should be talking with you. Thanks again. Cheers.

    • @denkn
      @denkn Рік тому +1

      Great to see a certified A&P tech chime in on this. Flying C-130s into Antarctica showed me the aviation industry has this problem well in hand. Would that FCA gather some A&P technicians into the fold to correct this once and for all...

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Dennis,
      Interesting.
      Cheers

  • @tmanguyen2758
    @tmanguyen2758 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video. I find this very cower in a way from the manufacture as their wranglers are not cheap in Canada.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      You are welcome. I hope you found it helpful. No they are NOT cheap and buyers should not have to face this issue so early in ownership.

  • @anthonyviscusi4042
    @anthonyviscusi4042 11 місяців тому

    So what does a Jeep owner do? Replace the hinges with steel one's, get stainless steel screws or put some kind of gasket on the underside of the hinge?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  11 місяців тому +1

      My understanding is that the solution is to replace the contaminated aluminum hinges with new aluminum hinges but also to paint between where the hinges join to the body. I’ve read on many forums also, that people are having their whole door panels and hoods replaced, i.e. any contaminated aluminum parts with new parts in order to stop the corrosion. If you just repair/repaint the offending area, it seems to return, or at least as has been the case for me and others who I have read about on the forums. Good luck.

  • @soundcube9567
    @soundcube9567 Рік тому

    A rust module would help?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Sound Cube,
      With all due respect, my understanding of those is that they are not effective.
      Also, if they were, I'm sure the idea would have been shared by now on the forum for those who have been clamouring about this issue for some time now.
      Feel free to attach any links that suggest otherwise.
      Cheers.

  • @goldandsilverstack3
    @goldandsilverstack3 Рік тому

    Oh man! I need to check my JL I have the same Jeep color you do.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey MetalsGear,
      It happens to different colours.
      I hope you are lucky and not have this issue.
      Cheers

    • @goldandsilverstack3
      @goldandsilverstack3 Рік тому

      @@CheaperJeeperTV yea thanks for making me aware I've had my jeep since June 2019

  • @mckenziefotoworks
    @mckenziefotoworks 5 місяців тому

    My 2019 JL has been at the bodyshop over 7 weeks now. Hood and all 4 doors.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  5 місяців тому

      Sorry to hear that. You have to deal with this as well. Good luck with the repair. Cheers.

  • @vicranger6876
    @vicranger6876 Рік тому

    Corrosion inhibitors have been around for over 80 yrs. or more. No vehicle should ever have a corrosion problem for ever in its life. I asked a GM engineer about corrosion inhibitors and he offhandedly said they just change from yr to yr. I asked why they didn’t stay with one that works by looking at corrosion history of cars on the road. He said, “we don’t ever look back at what worked”.

  • @Lostinthesand
    @Lostinthesand Рік тому +1

    Hi I am no expert but…
    Starting with aluminum boats, Old Land Rovers Series 2 and 3. Aluminum Tanks on motorcycle’s, I was informed of Electrolyses.
    Aluminum is one element and steel, brass, copper are another element.
    When water and salt get between the elements, electrolysis occurs. Rapidly or slowly. With this knowledge, bass fittings and such are not used in direct contact on aluminum boats.
    The British were allegedly reported to use Positive Grounding on British Vehicles to reduce further the electrolysis. (Thank you, John Lucas, the Prince of Darkness!). *** Further research required to verify the Positive Ground ***
    Steel Hinges and Aluminum body panels require more washing with anti salt neutralizer’s after driving on the King’s Highways! Especially in winter with Salt or Mag Chloride being used as de ice on the roads.
    Hope this helps.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey TarktheSharkUSA,
      Thanks for the info.
      My feeling is that the flaw may be in the aluminum body panels. Prep? Priming? Quality?
      Audi owner's vehicles aren't afflicted with this corrosion issue, and I don't believe they wash their vehicles more or anything.
      Cheers.

  • @jeffgillismba9552
    @jeffgillismba9552 Рік тому

    If issue does not degrade structural integrity could a 3M wrap help this situation?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Jeff,
      I can’t say whether or not it can possibly degrade structural integrity or not, but a wrap may help, but they cost a lot of money and the lifting/bubbling of the paint due to corrosion may still show up on the vinyl wrap, I’m not sure. It’s maybe easier just to avoid the problem all together when you consider how much money you have to spend to get into one of these.
      Cheers

  • @andrewheil9835
    @andrewheil9835 7 місяців тому

    I have a Jeep JL 2018. I noticed the same spot had the paint bubblling up. I went to the dealerswhip. They said I had 4 months left on the corrosion warranty. I was also told that since I reported it I was covered. Thing is there were 95 jeeps ahead of me, They said every month they send two jeeps in for repaIRS. I won't get mine fixed until mid 2024. Hopefully it will only be one time.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  7 місяців тому

      So many people experiencing this issue. Such a shame. I hope it works out for you.
      Cheers.

  • @frankconsidine5989
    @frankconsidine5989 Рік тому

    I think some of the problem is that the vehicles are grounded throw the frame and body. Happens to boat trailers that are aluminum and dip them in water with lights plugged in.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Frank,
      Thanks for the info.
      Either way, whatever it is, FCA needs to do as other manufacturers have done and sell vehicles where the paint doesn't blister on the body panels. If they don't care to, at least prospective buyers should be aware of this when making purchasing decisions.

    • @frankconsidine5989
      @frankconsidine5989 Рік тому

      @@CheaperJeeperTV I totally agree they should let you know.

  • @MrLM002
    @MrLM002 Рік тому

    Didn't know about this issue, thanks.
    Dissimilar metal corrosion (also known as galvanic corrosion) is why Land Rovers are known for being rust buckets. Aluminum bodies on carbon steel frames.
    F-150s will be the new Land Rovers.
    I'm sorry your Jeep and other Jeeps have this issue.

  • @kiplutu
    @kiplutu 6 місяців тому

    Yep have the same problem with or 19 jlu on uper front of windshield

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  6 місяців тому +1

      Sorry to hear. Hopefully it can get done under warranty. Good luck.

  • @bendmacmanufacturing2744
    @bendmacmanufacturing2744 Рік тому

    Over a year with my 2021 4xe and no issues with corrosion !!!

  • @jasonlovell3934
    @jasonlovell3934 Рік тому +1

    We don’t see that in Texas. Is it just with the salt from roads?

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Jason,
      I'm not sure of its distribution or that salt is the cause. I believe there are other makes of automobiles with aluminum body panels in areas where there is salt on the roads, and they are not experiencing this problem. From what I've read it possibly is contamination on the aluminum before it gets painted.

  • @marcamorelli2922
    @marcamorelli2922 Рік тому

    We just bought a 2019 with 37k miles and it has corrosion on all 4 doors and my local dealer is telling me the 5 year unlimited miles doesn’t cover corrosion, only if it rusts through, well I guess they don’t understand the difference between rust and corrosion. How can I get them to cover this.
    Thanks
    Marc

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Marc,
      Shame on them!!! I believe they DO know you are right but I think they do t want to do it because FCA doesn’t pay them their going shop rate. You can contact FCA or take it to a better dealer. Sorry to hear.
      FCA may encourage them to do their duty, but you may not end up in their Christmas list. 🤷🏻‍♂️
      Good luck.

    • @marcamorelli2922
      @marcamorelli2922 Рік тому +1

      @@CheaperJeeperTV thanks for the input I will keep trying

  • @brandongilden1680
    @brandongilden1680 Рік тому

    Thanks for the information. I am beginning to look at Jeeps and have not seen the issues you speak of on California vehicles, but I don’t believe we salt our roads, even in the mountain communities. Is salt the only cause, or should I stay clear of JL’s and look to a low mileage JK, or wait for the problem to be solved by FCA? I’d love to see what you and your viewers think. Do the aluminum panels really make a huge weight difference compared to the JK? Does that contribute to improved fuel economy, or is that negligible?
    Thanks for your time.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      Hey Brandon,
      I believe the aluminum does save some weight, but the JL does have the ZF 8 speed transmission which I believe helps with the fuel efficiency as well. I don’t believe that salt is the issue when it comes to T he FCA corrosion issue, as other manufacturers who utilize aluminum body panels aren’t facing this issue. I believe it has to do with the prep or quality of the aluminum by FCA. I’ve been keeping up with the issue by reading posts in FB and forums and I haven’t read about any correction to the process yet. I recently sold my Jeep and couldn’t bring myself to buy another one after having to deal with this issue and after my experience with FCA. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @brandongilden1680
      @brandongilden1680 Рік тому

      Thank you for your quick reply. I will look for something when I hear that the quality issue has been resolved. I would probably be looking to purchase the 6 speed manual trans as, in my experience, are more bullet proof and easier to maintain.

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  Рік тому

      You are welcome. There was an issue with the JL manual. I believe it has been resolved now. Cheers.

    • @brandongilden1680
      @brandongilden1680 Рік тому +1

      Cheers to you as well. Happy travels this coming spring in your new vehicle.

    • @LWRC
      @LWRC Рік тому

      @@CheaperJeeperTV Speakinig of poor quality and workmanship - I bought a brand new 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon at an out of state dealer and drove it back to SoCal. Upon getting home, I noticed a black speck on the paint on the right front passenger door. I thought it may have been road tar as I did drive quite a ways to get back home. I soon realized it wasn't road tar nor any other road grime but it was actually a foreign object that was painted into the door when it was undergoing factory painting! You can't buff it off as it was pretty deep and you can tell this object landed on the door and the paint was sprayed over it - it was done at the factory!!!
      Now you would think that Jeep would have quality inspectors going over every inch of the Jeep before it came off of the assembly line but they missed it! I could easily see it as it was a drak spot on white paint ! ! ! Now I was going to say you'd have to be blind to miss that but if the inspector was actually bline, they probably would have found the flaw through the feel - maybe not if they were wearing gloves!
      Never the less, a huge disappointment. I took it to a local dealer and they said they can repaint the entire door. I thought about it and decided against it since the dealer's body shop paint booth isn't the same as what they have at the factory. And if they screw up the color match, I will have an entire door that is a shade off and will be really noticeable! Now this small defect is only visible if you really look for it so I passed on the dealer's warranty repair!

  • @knowitallandtravel
    @knowitallandtravel 10 місяців тому

    2021 gladiator Rubicon with 17k miles, garage kept like a damn princess and I just found rust on the hood. I am beyond livid

    • @CheaperJeeperTV
      @CheaperJeeperTV  10 місяців тому

      Absolutely! I’m reading online on Facebook groups that the only solution is to have the offending panels of contaminated metal replaced. Many share that the dealers had done this for them. As in my case, the hinges were replaced and the corrosion didn’t return. The other body panels were simply repaired/repainted two times and it returned for a third time. As my warranty ran out. I maintained that since I brought it in while under warranty, and since they hadn’t resolved the issue properly, that they needed to replace the offending panels. Unfortunately for me, they refused. I hope you have better luck.