Maybe you should consider a review on the POOR electronics all the CDJR vehicles are plagued with. When the radio starts to delaminate all the electronics in the Jeep fail. Not just the radio, heat, air everything goes OUT! Jeep knowes this and has for years. They offer no assistance to the consumer once this happens. It'll cost you up to $1800.00 to repair with no guarantee it won't happen again. STAY AWAY from Jeeps!
Thanks man for the update on an issue that has been plaguing me with my 2019 rubicon unlimited. So far only all of my hinges were affected. Dealership quickly and quietly painted all 4 doors. Sadly it’s never quite the same as the factory in regards to QC. GOOD TO KNOW THAT ITS NOT JUST A CANADIAN ISSUE. We all bought these jeeps knowing that a June bug would destroy the windshield, and that we were going to pay an arm and a leg to drive this amazing looking vehicle to every gas station but I don’t think anyone thought that we would be dealing with corrosion/oxidation/paint bubbling and flaking after 1 and a half years in my case
Wow you scared me mister! Only 1.5 years? Just got my jeep 3 weeks ago. So far I've been reading a lot about how to take care of it. Specially getting ready for QC winters. Did you applied a protective product or something?
I had worked as a body tech and a painter at a Jeep Dealer in Maryland for years. The only way we allowed to repair this issue was with brand new body panels. If the panels are repaired and not repaired they have wind up with a high repair failure rate. We did a couple Jeep Wranglers, GC’s a month. The parts supply issues during the pandemic did slow our pace a bit since we couldn’t get new doors for awhile. If a place is only repairing the panels find another place!!!
Hey Jason, That’s valuable information. FCA however will not fix it now due to my high kilometres in the Jeep. If I was in the US, their warranty is unlimited miles, so I’d be able to push for warranty work and maybe new panels.
Jason, is there a requirement to replace or is it left to the discretion of the facility? I'm looking at buying an 18 Rubicon in the next few weeks (it's trade coming to my favorite dealer) and want to know how to address this with the GM there. He's a stand up guy and I want to work out an understanding about the path forward if/when I have issues with it, should I decide to buy it. Thanks in advance!
@@brianfiore9024 My hinges got replaced on the second reoccurring corrosion incident, and so far they have not corroded again. The doors were simply repaired, upon the second reoccurring of corrosion, and now corrosion on my doors has reappeared for the third time. This would lead me to believe that the only solution would be to replace to corrupted parts, with clean ones. I have heard where a dealership replaced the persons doors. I hope this is helpful.
@@CheaperJeeperTV I think you have cause to state that the issue was never properly fixed and they are still liable for the repair. You raised issue while the vehicle was under warranty and it was not correctly fixed.
My wife and I are in the same boat with her 2019 Jl every hinge and the front of the hood have bubbling it's insane to pay $42k dollars for this too happen in only 3yrs of ownership.
I paid $67,000 right jeep JL wrangler unlimited Rubicon and my jeep was housed in my garage and only had 5400 original miles on it to this day. It took me a year and a half of fighting with Jeep corporate until they finally relented and agreed to fix my jeep. Then I had to go to 11 different jeep dealerships before I could find one that agreed to fix the problem since all the other jeep dealerships were all pain are their own pockets for each Jeep repair that they made even though it was Fiat Chrysler who fucked up an allowed the vehicles to be released and sold the customers anyway. Fiat Chrysler is most definitely negligent on this and every other recall that I’ve underwent since I’ve owned my jeep. I’ve done Chrysler‘s advertising for the last 35 years and I refused to buy a Chrysler up until I purchased my jeep because of the shitty quality. When I saw my jeep I fell in love with it and bought it off the lot only to be told by the dealership that they could’ve sold it 10 times over since I purchased it to other customers. Chrysler is famous for punting They’re problematic vehicles down the road the only way to hold Chrysler responsible is to get in their face and call corporate every single day until They agree to correct and mediate the problem that they created in the first place. If you are Chrysler I would simply pay for high-end materials in the first place instead of constantly cutting corners they wouldn’t constantly be in this position. It’s exactly why Daimler decided to pull out of the deal with Chrysler from the very beginning. Mercedes is known for their quality and they did everything they could to bring up Chryslers quality however Chrysler‘s management and ownership are absolute assholes they continue to do things the old ways which is they only care about profit over people. It’s a shame that they’ve scammed so many people are their money. This is the last jeep I’ll ever own I’d much rather buy a Ford bronco, a G wagon, A hummer or any other 4 x 4 other than a vehicle made by Fiat Chrysler ever again
Wow. You clearly feel strongly about your buying experience. I can’t say I blame you after spending such money on a “new” vehicle only to be saddled down with problems.
@@imghost6296 Lesson learned. I will never buy any Jeep after '06. They are absolute garbage. Jeep Born: 1941 Died: 2006 It was a good run, but it's over. At least we have CJ's, YJ's and TJ's that we can restore and maintain that will last.
I had my 2018 JLUR repaired under warranty. Jeep replaced both front doors and the rear driver door, and had a body shop repair my hood, and tailgate. I was initially very happy with the resolution…UNTIL I found that the door panes they used as replacements DO NOT have any welded seams! Most importantly around the channel that retains the weather stripping. So even though there is weather stripping there the channel that it sits in is not sealed against the door panel. There is anywhere up to 1/8” gap all the way around the bottom of the door. I didn’t notice this until driving down the interstate and wondering where the wind noise was coming from. That and the fact that there is a lot of air leaking into the car. Of course it was going into the winter when I discovered the air leak. I took it back to Jeep, they documented it and was presenting that information to Jeep for resolution. I didn’t get a response until late spring. So I had to use gaffers tape to seal the gaps to keep out the winter air and kill the wind noise for the winter! Jeep’s response was that “there was nothing wrong with the door panels…that’s how they make them now”. WHAT?! So I asked them how in the world will that keep water out of my vehicle is I were to ford a water crossing that came up over the bottom door sill? Crickets. Then I was later told that they will no longer work on the issue as they have completed the repair and there is nothing wrong with my doors. Where’s the middle-finger emoji?! Cause that’s what they gave me.
Thank you Dino! You helped me dodge the Jeep JL paint bubbling debacle. Your videos and articles helped me select the right Jeep Wrangler unlimited for me. Which ended up being a 2016 Jeep Wrangler unlimited 75th anniversary model in black, with only 57,000 KMs. I take delivery on the 25th of August 2022!
I traded a 2019 JL with a few problem spots. The dealership didn't care. I guess they know they can sell it to somebody who is unaware of the corrosion issue. So far my 2021 shows no signs but I know, it's only a matter of time. I'll get rid of it then. I bet this video opened up a few eyes!
Hey Randy, Create thought of it, I would have appreciated it if someone had shared this information with me when I was looking for a vehicle. I hope the video is helpful for somebody. Cheers
Thank you for the info. You have helped me decide to get the 4Runner instead. Had a 2000 Toyota Tacoma years ago. Rust/frame issue. The Tacoma was 10 years old, 115k miles on it. Toyota bought the truck back from me at 150% street value with an apology from Toyota. Shame that Jeep lost me today as a customer. C'mon Jeep, repeat customers is where the $ is!!!
Hey Edward, I frequently compare in my mind how Toyota handled that situation in comparison to how FCA addresses issues now. I made this video because I wished someone shared this with me when I made my purchasing decision. Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV Funny thing...I own a 1976 Jeep CJ7 in near mint condition. Still have the original keys and the Jeep still has the American Motors emblem on the back. They truly don't make them like they used to.
Ahh you missed out on a lot of fun taking the top down; we have a 4Runner too and while very reliable it is also very boring; we keep it around paid off for an extra car but I don’t grab it on purpose
@@gtamantube it ain't fun if it don't work.... Modern wranglers are trash....... Last Real and reliable wranglers we're the TJ generation, and you can make a strong argument as the best one of all time..........modern Wranglers are middle American Mercedes Benz...... All Bling bling no go go..........
Thank you so much for the information! The mechanic at the dealer and I found tones of bubbles on my 2019 JL bikini pearl. Sadly though, it’s not all on the aluminum. The dealership and Jeep Canada are taking their sweet a$$ time taking care of the issue that I feel they are playing me out of my warranty. Your links are super helpful. Keep it up as I’m a great fan of yours!
Cindy, Thank you. I'm sorry to hear of your paint issue, and the warranty hassle. I too was dragged through a long time of BS when trying to address this issue on my Jeep. I hope the information shared in the video can be of some use to you. Good luck. Cheers.
As long as you have made a claim before the warranty expires, FCA/ Stellantis can take as long as they want but they are still on the hook for the repair. It is based on 'date of claim'.
Gino! I am a recent follower. This just popped up in my suggestions probably because of recent searches. My 2020 JLU is in the shop for bubbled paint. At least my dealer is replacing not repairing panels. Last year it was the Hood & hinges. This year it is all 4 doors and 8 hinges. I just got a call from the dealer and they are ordering a windshield frame due to bubbling on it. I will need to keep an eye on the rear gate! You are the best!
Hey George, thanks for following along. I’m glad you found the corrosion video helpful. Feel free to share to get the information out there. Good luck with the replaced panels, wisdom out there says that is the best way to go.
I feel you. I have 2018 JL and it’s every where on my doors and hinges, and it’s getting worse. I took it in to the dealer, and I was out of warranty by months so they won’t cover it. So now I don’t know what to do as I’m sure it will be thousands to fix. It’s pretty unfair as Jeeps are expensive and my Jeep is mint aside from this stupid bubbling of the paint. I’m interested in the lawsuit to see where it goes. This should be a recall issue. It’s a manufacturing defect that just won’t go away.
Hello FarmhouseFelts, I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing the same issues. There are many people out there who are facing this same issue. It will never be a recall, as it technically isn't a safety issue. Some people who are beyond warranty have contacted FCA direct, and received "Good Will" repairs to their corrosion. You may want to try that. Many however have reported the corrosion simply returns again. If I can try to help ease the frustration a little, corrosion will just make the paint bubble off, at least the panels will not disintegrate like what would happen with rust on steel panels. You'll lose money now if you trade it in. If it's mint and looked after well, you could consider keeping and enjoying it, and later when you learn where and how a proper repair can be done, pursue that option? As they say, "Misery Loves Company", and as such you may wish to learn more on this new Facebook group; "Jeep JL Corrosion Warranty Information" facebook.com/groups/975754000356535 Cheers
Nice overview. Think this issue is growing exponentially. More and more cannot get warranty repair for months and even after all this time, no clear indication that Jeep has corrected the issue. The damage on my 3 YO 4Dr is extensive, 8 months waiting time for repair and will only get crushed if I try to get out from under from under it beforehand . Stuck. Love my Jeep but this has killed my enthusiasm. Class action lawsuit is not enough. Nice work on the video.
Thanks for the feedback on the video. I totally understand how you feel. Even though I had the corrosion repaired/repainted on my body panels, it kept coming back. It seems, from what I am reading on FB posts, the offending pieces must be replaced, and some are getting that done. I wish I was made aware of this before I bought. It surprises me that other UA-camrs aren’t discussing this. Feel free to share the info on this issue to help others. Best of luck.
I am in Canada with a 2019 Sahara 4 door and JUST noticed this issue yesterday. I am Very disappointed. This is my first Jeep and I was hoping to have it for a long, long time. I do love everything about a Jeep and have wanted one since I was a teenager. Now upon further digging I am noticing this corrosion all over from others. You are correct in saying that even if you go with a different brand the same may occur mainly because most companies are switching to aluminum as opposed to steel. I do somewhat regret not getting a 2018 JK when I was looking at the time. I really love the LEDs and the front grill of the JLs (what was my deciding factor). Now with only 49K kilometres at 4 years old my Jeep has corrosion around the hinges and down by the drivers bottom door. I am questioning when I go to my dealer if I should just demand new doors and not just repainted. From reading previous it appears by touching up the repairs as in your video the bubbling comes back. It leads back to prep prior to the door being painted. Oh what to. So frustrating
Hey Carlene, That's what I believe too. If the doors are already contaminated or improperly primed, the corrosion will creep around and appear over time. Mine were "repaired" twice, and the corrosion appeared again on the same doors, buy just slightly in a different position, so given I am over the warranty limit in kilometres, they refuse to repair it saying it isn't in the area of the previous repair... The hinges corroded twice, they replaced them, and the new hinges have not shown any signs of corrosion. I wish they replaced the doors like they did the hinges. I AM aware of someone who had his doors replaced. On my painted doors and other repaired panels, the dealer did an absolutely horrendous repaint job. It is so disappointing. I am not sure how to launch a class action lawsuit in Canada, but maybe should investigate that.
I did a video on this same issue on our ‘19 Rubicon several months back. Waited 4 months for the appointment and then the body shop had it for 4 weeks. Only saving Grace was that they provided us with a Grand Cherokee loaner. We just got it back. They repainted the hood and all 4 doors. The paint looks as good as factory but if it comes back, we are dumping it. It’s a tots joke that Jeep can’t seem to correct the underlying issue.
Well I wish you the best. I loved my Jeep but after the corrosion came back for the third time and being out of warranty I moved on and bought another brand’s pickup truck. It’s a shame. Jeep won’t get business from me again.
I'm a certificated airframe and powerplant mechanic and deal with corrosion in aluminum structure on a near daily basis. Corrosion on aluminum structure is worse than corrosion on steel given how fast it can literally turn structure into dirt. I don't know what alloy jeep uses but in aviation the .out common alloys use copper for its high strength and conductivity. We will typically use a chemical conversion coating such as alodine (bond rite now) on top of primer and then paint to reduce chances of corrosion.
Great to see a certified A&P tech chime in on this. Flying C-130s into Antarctica showed me the aviation industry has this problem well in hand. Would that FCA gather some A&P technicians into the fold to correct this once and for all...
Another great video! I have seen this issue on aircraft "ALOT". And its extremely hard to get rid of it once its started. This is a really bad issue when aircraft sit outside when near salt water. One of the only ways to get it so stop is a solution of Alumiprep-33 now called BONDERITE C-IC 33 AERO before paint primer. I use the word stop when I should have said slow. If the dealer is just using primer when BONDERITE C-IC 33 AERO is needed as a base coat before primer its going to come back and relatively quick. Cleaning aluminum is really impossible since it develops a surface corrosion / oxidation within minutes after the surface is touched by air. I know this is an issue on Jeeps but you can use de-salt cleaner for boats that works well at flushing the crust of road salts off of the surface. Sorry did not mean to steal your info just wanted to add to it.
I love how informative this channel is. You kindly breakdown everything nicely 👍🏼. PS I own a 2918 JL Sport but in white so it’s a little less noticeable but it’s there alright
Thank you for your feedback on the channel. I’m glad you find it informative. Feel free to share!😝 Sorry to hear you have the dreaded corrosion issue on your Jeep as well. I’ve come to believe that only replacement of the offending body panels will fix the issue. My hinges were replaced and there was no further signs of continued corrosion. My doors were repaired/repainted twice and then the corrosion returned again. Now that I’m buying the parameters of the warranty, further repairs would be at my cost. It’s not a great place to be after buying such an expensive new vehicle. 🤷🏻♂️
Just found some corrosion on the hinges on the tailgate. Not sure what I an going to do yet but still love my JL and would do it all over again regardless.
Hey Anton, I certainly can understand how you like your Jeep so much. Corrosion flaws in such an expensive and new vehicle, like on many JLs, and JTs is simply inexcusable. Especially in this day and age when the knowledge and practice is out there to do a better job.
@@CheaperJeeperTV I hear you. I've been fighting with a subtle ticking sound and after a turbo (and wastegate) replacement last year, tick is back and there is a timing chain waiting for me... thanks for all of your work into these videos!
I have a Jeep JL 2018. I noticed the same spot had the paint bubblling up. I went to the dealerswhip. They said I had 4 months left on the corrosion warranty. I was also told that since I reported it I was covered. Thing is there were 95 jeeps ahead of me, They said every month they send two jeeps in for repaIRS. I won't get mine fixed until mid 2024. Hopefully it will only be one time.
Thank you so much for this video. My 07 Jeep JK had this issue. I never fixed it. I have a 2021 Wrangler Rubi with no issues so far. If/when it does happen, I will fix it myself. Knowing it won’t perforate…I feel better.
I agree, it’s good to keep a positive spin on it, in that the aluminum will only corrode, making the paint flake, and not will not disintegrate as rust would do to steel. Cheers
Hey Pete, I kilometre is .6 miles. In a lot of ways the JL is a huge upgrade from earlier models of the Wrangler, but the JLs corrosion issue is something new buyers need to take into account. Cheers.
Thanks for the video. I was planning to order the 2025 model later on this year when it becomes available to order online. But this Corrosion issue really bothers me, I have been on many forums and it seems there is no real solution for it! 😥
My 19 JLU has had the doors ( all 4 ) painted twice , the hinges as well now is back again on two doors 4 hinges the hood & tailgate !!!! After all the time and money dumped into it i almost have it back to stock . TRADING IT IN !!! it seems to be somewhat rare in my area since there's only a handful of Jeeps in the clubs we belong to so im hoping i can find a 23 Gladiator that won't give me the same issues but we know the hand you shit in fills up way before the other hand doors with hopes & wishes so ill prob ger screwed again with the new one !!! Great video thanks here is luck to all is keep owners !!!!
So far I've experienced the corrosion issue on my door hinges and that was repaired by the dealership. I'll be checking the other areas closer for this. Thanks for the information.
I used to service and repair aluminum fuel trailers. This is the perfect example as to why our manufacturers don't paint the barrels. It allowed our wash team to acid bath the trailers and remove any surface corrosion after winter. I know it’s different on cars but damn this sucks. Hope my 22’ JT has been addressed on this issue.
I bought a 2021 gladiator and on the hood there are 2 spots that are blistering up. 33000 miles. Was told by dealership to get an estimate from the body shop that they use. Had to go back twice.This has been going on for 2 months now and the factory warranty is coming up to the end. The dealership has done what it’s supposed to do,the company isn’t doing what they promised to do.
I feel your pain. Apparently I read online that there is a proper way to repair these things so that it doesn’t return. I’m not sure though. I have to do a little more research in that maybe make another video on the proper way to repair it given that so many are complaining about it returning.
Corrosion inhibitors have been around for over 80 yrs. or more. No vehicle should ever have a corrosion problem for ever in its life. I asked a GM engineer about corrosion inhibitors and he offhandedly said they just change from yr to yr. I asked why they didn’t stay with one that works by looking at corrosion history of cars on the road. He said, “we don’t ever look back at what worked”.
thanks for the vid. i had both my doors and hood replaced last summer from the corrosion on the hinges and along the bottom/leading edges, hopefully it wont happen again. the bodyshop shop said they pre-painted the doors/hood before mounting the hinges and think that will help
I wonder if adding a rubber gasket in-between the door hinge and the body of the door would stop the 2 different metal electrolysis issue.. as mentioned before this is a issue I just learned about in home plumbing where 2 different metals are used and small pins hole occur over time and cause leaks. Many copper pipes are affixed to studs using steel clamps.. I had a few leaks happen and was told by many plumbers about this electrolysis issue occurring there as well.. 2 different metals can cause this.
Maybe that addresses the corrosion around the hinge, but it also occurs elsewhere on body panels nowhere near the steel bolts. Whatever the reason, if FCA wont address this, given that the TSB addresses vehicles with aluminum panels since 2013, wary buyers may want to know when considering a purchase. Cheers
i think you addressed my question at the end, it won’t get ‘worse’ or actually start chipping / ‘rust-out’… than what it is, am i right? wonder what the worst cases look like … or what they will look like in 5 years… dealerships don’t have me sold on a permanent fix and the hassle and risk of causing new imperfections makes me lean towards just living with it… still interested to know how bad it can get and or worst case scenarios *edit* my bubbles are at the bottom right side of the tailgate, just noticed today while detailing …
It won’t perforate, but I have seen pictures on Facebook of others who have gotten worse and the paint begins to chip off. Also, I believe, the only solution to fix it is to replace the offending component. Simply repairing/repainting only resulted in it coming back for the throes time for me. Sorry to hear about your rig experiencing the corrosion. Good luck.
My Jeep is a 2018 as well but I’ve never had a issue with corrosion . We do use salt on the roads during winters but we don’t have that much snow so mine has been exposed very little to the salt. Another reason might be that mine is garage kept.... Thanks for the info.....
I have a 21 JLU. No corrosion issues on mine. That said, I had an 08 Expedition that had the same corrosion problems on the aluminum body panels. It was the result of the aluminum not being prepped properly prior to paint. FWIW, I live in the salt belt.
I am in the uk..4 year old 2019 JL rubicon. Despite the warranty being 5 years, i am tild the paint warranty is only 3 years...the jeep has only done 15k miles, and has blisters on both doors, a wing, under hood and door hinges. Rear door and hinges are ok. My vehicle cost about $70k here...and still zero help from FCA/Stellantis.
Sorry to hear about your Jeep corrosion issue. Canada’s warranty for this is different from that in the US as well. I brought mine in under warranty but it kept returning. It appears some people have actually had offending components replaced and it subsequently did not return. Once beyond the warranty FCA sent me packing. I sold my Jeep to get what I could get for it, but still at a loss as a result of the corrosion issue. There are many any posts about this in Facebook groups and Jeep forums. Not to mention the class action lawsuit filed. I loved the Jeep but can’t put my hard earned money into another one until I learn that this issue has been resolved. Good luck.
I believe that the corrosion would continue to happen under the wrap and bubbling of the paint will occur and possibly be seen through the wrap. I haven’t seen it myself so I can’t say for sure.
@@CheaperJeeperTV So - if you removed the paint, then did the wrap is a better way to phrase my question. I'm just thinking if the paint is the problem ( lack of proper adhesion) then this might be a way around it?
@scottvenable157 I’m not an expert at this however, the aluminum oxide that would build up the surface would preclude the wrap from being able to stick to the panel, I think…
Had our 2020 JL repainted last year, tailgate, hood, all 4 doors and they replace all the hinges including the tailgate hinges. Just noticed most of the corrosion came back on the door hinges and on the bottom of one door. Jeep has only 35k on it. I’m heading Back to the dealer to start the whole process of getting it fixed again tomorrow. I better not have to pay a dime, I’m in Massachusetts.
From what I am reading on FaceBook groups and forums, I believe replacing the offending components is the only solution to keep the corrosion from reappearing. Sorry to hear you have to deal with this too. Best of luck.
@@CheaperJeeperTV We already had the hood tailgate and one door replaced last summer. So far those panels that got replaced show no signs of corrosion. The 2 hinges on the door that got replaced look good too, as well as the hood hinges. All the other door hinges show corrosion as well as two other doors, which I believe were painted and not replaced. So I believe you are right about replacing and not just painting.
Exactly as mine was. For me they refused to do any more dues to my linage saying I was out of warranty. I claimed I had brought it in while under warranty but it kept coming back because they hadn’t repaired it properly. They said to bad so sad, so I ended up selling it at a loss in resale value due to this issue. I’m gutted by it as I loved the Jeep, but the corrosion issue was getting away in me and I thought I should sell it while I could still get something for it.
Found some corrosion on my 2021 Rubicon, all of it involved the hinges! I took it to the stealership and they are looking in to it, its been two weeks and no contact from them. Very disappointed in FCA.
I looked at 5 different 2018 JL to purchase last month,and only 1 out of the 4 was super clean. The other 4 had corrosion or oxidization on all the doors. It was the first thing I noticed but the one I chose is seriously clean. No corrosion at all. Nice video
American, 2020 Wrangler 4-dr. I noticed it starting on my vehicle in a couple of those same spots. My plan is simply to grind it out myself if it ever becomes necessary. I don't care if the paint matches perfectly, as long as the corrosion is arrested.
Thank you for this "Heads Up Video!" I cannot imagine the anger a Jeep owner would feel with only a few years or less time in the Mid Western states of Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, and others that use "deicing chemicals" on their roads! Carry On getting the word out to the citizens.
Hey David, Yep. Very much anger. FCA has been dealing with this in their TSB on vehicles as old as 2013!...I wish people put the word out sooner, so there would be fewer of us that are feeling so burned. I guess having a class action lawsuit out there helps get the word out more. Please feel free to share this information to help others make a better automobile purchasing decision. Cheers
Damn glad I prefer warm, arid climates. Deicing is so bad for the environment also. I suggest this is the price you pay for choosing to live where you do and allowing your government to put toxic chemicals on the roads.
My 2019 Jeep Wrangler JL has corrosion on the hood the doors the hinges the back door it just never ends and it's in the shop right now been waiting for several months to get it in they told me it could take a month to a month and a half to fix it but they did provide me with the rental car Jeep is paying for that and Jeep is also paying for everything that needs fixed thank God
I have a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Mojave the metal in the rear bumper where the hooks come out is completely rusting out from last winter I haven't looked at it recently I figured I'm going to wait right before the warranty is up have them fix that also the door bolts that you take off to pull the doors off they're not black anymore they're turning white just awful
Hey Jamie, That sounds like a good plan. In fact, I'd make sure in advance that the dealership understands and is agreeable with the plan and timing. You'd hate to have left it 'till then, and have problems with them honouring it. Good luck.
Hey Jager, I did Mention in the video that getting an other type of vehicle may have its own issues, so…keep that in mind when deciding what to get. I just thought that given this information about the corrosion issue, some people might appreciate knowing about this. Feel free to share this to help others. Cheers
@@MOPERY609 Hey mike, I thought I did, but didn't come across any mention of FCAs aluminum panel issues. Thats why I wanted to put the word out there about this...feel free to share.
My aluminum boat and my hot water heater both have sacrificial zinc anodes, I wonder if they were attached to the aluminum body panels if that would help.
They drag the body through the tank the E-Coat doesn’t have time to penetrate into the seems, or in Jeeps case they mount the doors to the body while it’s all bear steel. Seen it with my own eyes. Been in the auto business for 44 years if you have further questions
Awesome info! Based on what you know, if a panel hasn’t been prepped/dipped properly, is it possible to correct or repair a panel that has begun to corrode? Thanks.
Ive owned 4 different jeeps now. What sucks is all of them he been overall great vehicles, but most of them have had some weird little issue like this that ruins the whole thing. I actually have not had this problem yet but I just replaced my battery for the second time on a 3 year old Wrangler. As far as I can tell, almost every single JL and JT has a defective battery system that causes them to die in a short time period. What I really dont understand, is the dealership replaced the batteries for free the first time (cost them $350+) and Im pretty sure they would have done it for free again the second time. But by that time I was done with the issue so I rewired the batteries and deleted the auxiliary battery. But, my point is, FCA / Dealers are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to fix these issues, so I dont understand why they dont just issue a recall or actually address the problems from the factory.
Fellow Canadian here. I bought my 2019 last year, used. I didn't know about the corrosion issue at the time. Then I noticed bubbling on the door hinges. They replaced all door hinges and repainted..... only the doors... The color didn't match. the Jeep looked like a popsicle. I fought and they repainted it a second time and this time they blended on the sides. The job wasn't perfect, but acceptable. That was last fall. Fast forward to the 1st week of August 2022, I noticed bubbles on all 4 doors. Not even close to hinges or edges. Just plain in the middle of doors. To me it points to inadequate processes and/or installations to handle aluminum, and contamination. I contacted my dealer, they took pictures. I still have 2 years on my 5 years corrosion warranty and I'm well within the km limit, but it's still a PITA. With the dealer we will be pushing to replace all hinges AND doors. We'll see. Even then, I'm not sure it's a permanent solution since I don't think they solved the problem at the source...
Hey Eric, Sorry to hear that you had the corrosion issue as well. My hinges were replaced but my doors were not. The hinges do not have any signs of corrosion returning. But my doors had corrosion up here now for the third time. So replacement of the doors is at least a chance to get A set of doors that were prepared properly. It’s clear that mine or not, but because I have so many kilometres I am out of luck in this regard. Good luck to you my friend. Cheers
@@CheaperJeeperTV I'll keep you updated but we may decide to wait for spring to start the process. I want to have all the evidence to push for new doors and possible new hinges (again) too just to be sure. So far I don't have any bubbling on the new hinges so maybe you are right. I'll give it some time though... my confidence is pretty low at this point. 😒
I believe wham I called FCA they told me it was 160 000 km and 3 years. I asked them to direct me somewhere online where it is in print and if I recall correctly they said it is t available in print.
Hi I am no expert but… Starting with aluminum boats, Old Land Rovers Series 2 and 3. Aluminum Tanks on motorcycle’s, I was informed of Electrolyses. Aluminum is one element and steel, brass, copper are another element. When water and salt get between the elements, electrolysis occurs. Rapidly or slowly. With this knowledge, bass fittings and such are not used in direct contact on aluminum boats. The British were allegedly reported to use Positive Grounding on British Vehicles to reduce further the electrolysis. (Thank you, John Lucas, the Prince of Darkness!). *** Further research required to verify the Positive Ground *** Steel Hinges and Aluminum body panels require more washing with anti salt neutralizer’s after driving on the King’s Highways! Especially in winter with Salt or Mag Chloride being used as de ice on the roads. Hope this helps.
Hey TarktheSharkUSA, Thanks for the info. My feeling is that the flaw may be in the aluminum body panels. Prep? Priming? Quality? Audi owner's vehicles aren't afflicted with this corrosion issue, and I don't believe they wash their vehicles more or anything. Cheers.
Careful. I read on the forums and have experienced that replaced components so not have corrosion return but components that are simply repainted have corrosion that returns. Good luck.
My 2019 HellaYella JLU Sport has fallen victim on 3 of the 4 doors. I’m interested to find out how I can join the Class Action Lawsuit. I did take it back to the dealership and they approved it for “repair” not replacement. The quickest they could get me in was 3 weeks out and they promised me a loaner vehicle. Fast forward to day of drop off and guess what? “We never promised you a loaner, we don’t have any”. The Jeep is my only source of transportation to and from work. I left highly disgusted and angry. Needless to say the corrosion is still there and I’m at a loss of what to do next. On a side note I bought a 2005 Ford Expedition new and it did the exact same thing on the aluminum lift gate. Except 3 and 4 inch sections of paint popped completely off. Ford flat out refused to do anything about it.
Hey Bill, Sorry to hear about the bad experience. It's good for people to know about this. If you look up articles on the class action lawsuit, the legal firm contact information is provided. You can contact them for information on the lawsuit. Good luck.
Is this happeniing to ALL types of exterior colours? I'm asking because I remember Honda having a flaking paint issue that affected certain coloured paints.
So what does a Jeep owner do? Replace the hinges with steel one's, get stainless steel screws or put some kind of gasket on the underside of the hinge?
My understanding is that the solution is to replace the contaminated aluminum hinges with new aluminum hinges but also to paint between where the hinges join to the body. I’ve read on many forums also, that people are having their whole door panels and hoods replaced, i.e. any contaminated aluminum parts with new parts in order to stop the corrosion. If you just repair/repaint the offending area, it seems to return, or at least as has been the case for me and others who I have read about on the forums. Good luck.
It’s up to you what you do. There is a large Facebook group where you could find out from others how they pursued this through their warranty. Sorry to hear about the corrosion on your jeep. Good luck.
Hey B P, You're welcome. I just thought someone should let others know about this issue so that they could make an informed automobile purchasing decision. Cheers.
Hey Cobracarrera21, You are welcome. It's good to get this information out to potential buyers so that they can be informed. I wish that I was aware of this when I made my purchase.
Just a bit of an FYI as well. We are having similar issues with home plumbing with copper pipes leaking with pin hole size leaks because 2 different metals are used. The copper pipes are attached to the studs using steel clamps which causes the same electrolysis issues over time.. many plumber friends mentioned this and I was surprised to hear.
Hey Bill, What?!?!?! Is this also the dealership where you purchased the Jeep? They won't honour the warranty? That is complete nonsense!!!! They should be ashamed of them selves pulling that stunt!!! There is nothing stated in their substandard warranty that says you have to pay for those packages to be warrantied!! That is absolutely shameful!!!! It is something covered by the warranty...if they won't do it, call FCA or take it to another dealership. I am sure many others would like to know the dealership you're talking about so that they can avoid it.
well I am an engineer and I will tell you this is from improper panel prep. it is also on almost every aluminum bodied vehicle for decades. some of this is also due to improper grounding of the panel. I have a new JT and will keep an eye out but my Mustang hood and Audi deck had the same issue. this is not a jeep thing but a automotive product defect
Absolutely! I’m reading online on Facebook groups that the only solution is to have the offending panels of contaminated metal replaced. Many share that the dealers had done this for them. As in my case, the hinges were replaced and the corrosion didn’t return. The other body panels were simply repaired/repainted two times and it returned for a third time. As my warranty ran out. I maintained that since I brought it in while under warranty, and since they hadn’t resolved the issue properly, that they needed to replace the offending panels. Unfortunately for me, they refused. I hope you have better luck.
I thought lemon law would cover this issue. Pretty sure if the problem was addressed and not fixed lemon law kicks in and has a time limit. Believe they have 1 year or 12 k miles to fix the problem. In illinois but guess each state is different. Does not help if it happens after the 5 year warranty.
Sine the Wranglers are engineered with the concept of doors being removed, it would be nice to have them made out of aluminum including hood and gate to reduce weights which the gas mileage can be increased very noticeably.
Yes, the Wrangler JLs are in fact engineered that way. They just haven't mastered the art of properly painting them so that they don't corrode and have the paint bubble on them I guess. Other manufacturers have I believe.
My dream vehicle is Jeep Wrangler! I only got it 6months ago but broke down 3 times since I got it because of over heat , second was December and after two weeks death wobble again I have extended warranty but the things that need to get fixed is not covered paid $3k out of my pocket for repairs now is it time to let it go? PS it’s a Jeep wrangler 2014 has 96k Mileage when I got it.
Hey RoseMary, That will have to be your decision. Everyone has a different threshold for different things. My Jeep has this corrosion issue, and it doesn't bother some people, but for me, the prospect of continually dealing with flaking paint due to aluminum body panel corrosion was enough for me to sell and move on. I work too hard for my money to repeatedly throw it at a vehicle for repeated repairs, when it isn't necessary. In your case you seem to have recurring mechanical issues, and for some people, they pay for repairs and endure the inconvenience because they are hooked to the vehicle, but others might move on to something more reliable, and also more affordable. So...you have to decide, is there something about the Jeep you want so bad that you're prepared for possible more repair costs and inconvenience, or could there possibly be another, more reliable vehicle, that you might also still enjoy? Should you decide to move on, at least the resale on the Jeep Wrangler is relatively higher than on other vehicles. You can see what I ended up doing in this video...ua-cam.com/video/Ts71M5ibA2U/v-deo.html I hope this was helpful. Good luck with your decision. Cheers
Hey Sunya, You are very welcome. I just felt that this information was important enough to share it with others who could be affected by this. Cheers Cheers
Jason, I'm not sure of its distribution or that salt is the cause. I believe there are other makes of automobiles with aluminum body panels in areas where there is salt on the roads, and they are not experiencing this problem. From what I've read it possibly is contamination on the aluminum before it gets painted.
Rust runs deep in the jeep family. Now my family have been jeepers ever since I was a kid. Dad started with a 74 renegade and it was a rusty mess in a few years same thing with his 79 wrangler. He then bought an 88 cj7 the least rusty of the bunch but still rusted around the spring mounts and cracked lol. Then he picked up a 2002 that I currently own and the frame has literally rusted into beside the transmission crossmember and every body mount has major weight reduction plus the driver side front fender has a nice big hole in it. I honestly think that the mid to late 90s jeep wranglers have the best frames.
Thanks for the information. I am beginning to look at Jeeps and have not seen the issues you speak of on California vehicles, but I don’t believe we salt our roads, even in the mountain communities. Is salt the only cause, or should I stay clear of JL’s and look to a low mileage JK, or wait for the problem to be solved by FCA? I’d love to see what you and your viewers think. Do the aluminum panels really make a huge weight difference compared to the JK? Does that contribute to improved fuel economy, or is that negligible? Thanks for your time.
Hey Brandon, I believe the aluminum does save some weight, but the JL does have the ZF 8 speed transmission which I believe helps with the fuel efficiency as well. I don’t believe that salt is the issue when it comes to T he FCA corrosion issue, as other manufacturers who utilize aluminum body panels aren’t facing this issue. I believe it has to do with the prep or quality of the aluminum by FCA. I’ve been keeping up with the issue by reading posts in FB and forums and I haven’t read about any correction to the process yet. I recently sold my Jeep and couldn’t bring myself to buy another one after having to deal with this issue and after my experience with FCA. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for your quick reply. I will look for something when I hear that the quality issue has been resolved. I would probably be looking to purchase the 6 speed manual trans as, in my experience, are more bullet proof and easier to maintain.
@@CheaperJeeperTV Speakinig of poor quality and workmanship - I bought a brand new 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon at an out of state dealer and drove it back to SoCal. Upon getting home, I noticed a black speck on the paint on the right front passenger door. I thought it may have been road tar as I did drive quite a ways to get back home. I soon realized it wasn't road tar nor any other road grime but it was actually a foreign object that was painted into the door when it was undergoing factory painting! You can't buff it off as it was pretty deep and you can tell this object landed on the door and the paint was sprayed over it - it was done at the factory!!! Now you would think that Jeep would have quality inspectors going over every inch of the Jeep before it came off of the assembly line but they missed it! I could easily see it as it was a drak spot on white paint ! ! ! Now I was going to say you'd have to be blind to miss that but if the inspector was actually bline, they probably would have found the flaw through the feel - maybe not if they were wearing gloves! Never the less, a huge disappointment. I took it to a local dealer and they said they can repaint the entire door. I thought about it and decided against it since the dealer's body shop paint booth isn't the same as what they have at the factory. And if they screw up the color match, I will have an entire door that is a shade off and will be really noticeable! Now this small defect is only visible if you really look for it so I passed on the dealer's warranty repair!
I actually have some Insider understanding of erosion issues faced by all of the major automakers in the United States. I built the equipment that they use that actually controls corrosion. During the manufacturing process, the bodies and accoutrements of the Body and some frame elements are exposed to what's called an ecote system. If the body is left in ecoat for two higher percentage Beyond what they have determined is optimal. They will literally destroy these bodies by the dozens because they know as a fact that they will not corrode for quite a number of years. So they keep this ecoat mechanism to as close to the minimum as possible. Hence the problem. When you add things like aluminum body panels, and then you expose it to the atmosphere, especially in areas that might use salt for their Winter Road clearing efforts. You invite what's called a galvanic response. The galvanic action means that as the body becomes electrically active due to the acids and salts that contact with the differential metals. Aluminum begins to degrade quite quickly. Especially when it's electrically in contact with steel. That is a physics issue that cannot be mitigated easily. The move to using aluminum has been faster than their understanding of how to mitigate corrosion in aluminum. Aluminum corrodes very quickly in its original state. Win side of about 5 minutes it forms a layer of what cannot be seen. But is a very thin layer of corrosion upon it just by exposing it to the atmosphere. It does have a protective element to it. But once you connected to steel it will do its level best to turn into a powder as quickly as possible. That's what we understand witness as corroded aluminum. It turns into a white powder. If they're claiming that they didn't know about this. As the evidence shows that's a batch of crap. They have intentionally tried to walk a razor Thin Line when all they need to do is increase the percentage of time that the vehicle set in ecoat and it will probably mitigate this considerably. But they want these vehicles to degrade as quickly as possible so that you will for some ungodly reason, by another one. Here is an argument you need to make however when you have a corrosion repair. The repair on that spot and anywhere around that spot starts again with mileage. From the mileage that corrosion repair is done it has to in a new at that mileage. Another suggestion. Take some Marvel Mystery oil, some Deep Creek spray lubricant, some automatic transmission fluid, any of these lubricants and spray them on the inside edges of the door panels and the inside corners of all the fenders and Hood and it will do a lot to retard the growth of corrosion because it insulates the panel from the air. It is cheap insurance. I know that you should not have to do it. This is something that the automotive companies could have done for decades. A light spray of oil on the inner and outer portions of the frame underneath the vehicle will help that vehicle last years longer. Given that the rust degradation of the frame is a major safety issue eventually, I am surprised that they have never been required to do such things. Putting on devices on all vehicles that electronically polarizes the body of the vehicle would do wonders for this issue as well. And it would be dirt cheap on the manufacturing level to install such devices. It's not like the vehicle isn't electrically active to begin with which may be part of the problem. Because if it's phased the wrong way it can actually exacerbate the propagation of corrosion.
Could you please learn how to write English properly. Upvoted for being informative, but my lord how can you claim to be educated with prose that bad. Or maybe you tried to write that in a small edit box on mobile? When you people learn that you need a real computer to write with. Stop using those privacy invasion devices for serious communication.
Interesting .. are there Certain years its Worse or Certain Colors ? I have a 2021 Sahara JL , just turned 3 years old . .. Snazzberry .. Northern Virginia
There is a Facebook group on the JL corrosion issue, and I believe I have read accounts on Jeeps as new as 2022. There is some mentioned about a zinc shim being applied under the hinges on 2024 models which would serve to Postpone the corrosion perhaps.
Yes, I believe so. On the 2024s, I believe that they have added zinc shims between the hinges and the doors, and this may slow down the process, perhaps? That is my understanding from what I have read online.
I definitely agree, I mean you expect the paint to last as long as you have the car, unless you scratch it or whatever. I will point out that more times than not it's the prepping of the metal before painting which is the issue, all metals must have the oils removed through degreasing before priming etc, when this is not the case, gassses form and begin to bubble the paint. Yeah so for me, I paid over 80,000 for mine, paint better last till I mess it up 👍👍
I think some of the problem is that the vehicles are grounded throw the frame and body. Happens to boat trailers that are aluminum and dip them in water with lights plugged in.
Hey Frank, Thanks for the info. Either way, whatever it is, FCA needs to do as other manufacturers have done and sell vehicles where the paint doesn't blister on the body panels. If they don't care to, at least prospective buyers should be aware of this when making purchasing decisions.
Hey Sound Cube, With all due respect, my understanding of those is that they are not effective. Also, if they were, I'm sure the idea would have been shared by now on the forum for those who have been clamouring about this issue for some time now. Feel free to attach any links that suggest otherwise. Cheers.
No. It’s everywhere. There’s a huge Facebook group with people from all over complaining about it. A ton of people are on there sharing the grief. I’m hoping your Jeep never develops it. Here is a link to the group: facebook.com/share/g/1ES8evs8dk/?mibextid=K35XfP Cheers
Wow I just bought a 2018 jl wrangler two days ago used with only 48,000 miles paid cash for it too for 27000 and put a 3 year warranty on it,I've bought 3 brand new cars and a truck in the last 4 years and every car I bought new someone smashed into it causing great damage so I traded in on a new one and I have to put down payment only to get hit again,and again,so now I buy a use vehicle at a decent price and now this issue,always something....
I have owned now 2 Dodge Challengers. The Challenger has a poor E-coding issue. My 16 shaker, had to have the good completely replaced, and my current 1320 has a rust bubble under the paint. It's a 2021 with just over 6k miles, and no winter driving. It's not just specific to one brand.. it's a FCA thing they've known for years.
Hey chris, That is one of the premises behind the class action lawsuit I believe, that FCA was aware of the problem and kept it from customers. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
@@CheaperJeeperTV fortunately they've taken care of the issues without a problem for me. It's the dealerships that I've had issues with. At one, I got a rental for the time my 16 was in the shop.. but the current one I go to doesn't offer that..
Thanks for sharing this! I do have the paint bubbling up as well and went to two Jeep dealers and both said if it is not corrosion I need to pay it to make me feel bad to avoid any work within those 5 years. I do have a Jeep Wrangler from 2020. I contacted FCA and they told me the following: "I have reached out to Dependable Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and spoke with Body shop Manager [...] regarding the matter. [...]. Alex advised your claim was submitted on your recent visit with them and the claim was rejected due to being outside of the basic (3years or 36/000 miles) warranty. [...] The corrosion warranty on your Jeep is for 5 years Unlimited miles which covers sheet metal panels that get HOLES from rust or other corrosion. Alex advised he can go ahead with the repair; however_ , once they get down to the metal if there is no corrosion and the issue is surface rust, the repair would be customer pay as surface rust would fall under the basic warranty which has expired." So what should I do? I am so disappointed and struggle at the moment with how to proceed. Any advise?
Hi Toni, I can do a video on your case alone. Did you say they suspect surface “rust”? For starters, on your 2020, the body panels and hinges are aluminum and aluminum doesn’t rust. It corrodes. They should know this and use proper terms to address what is going on. I believe if there are no breaks in the paint then it’s hard to think of this as anything other than the aluminum oxidizing…corroding…which will NOT perforate the panel as long as that Jeep is in the road. That’s one of the main premises behind the Class Action lawsuit in the US launched against FCA in regards to this corrosion issue. Given you are in the US, I’d look the law firm up and get in on that. This is such a shame. Good luck.
@@CheaperJeeperTV The last sentence is cop&paste from FCA's customer service: "once they get down to the metal if there is no corrosion and the issue is surface rust, the repair would be customer pay as surface rust would fall under the basic warranty which has expired." So let me ask the question, maybe I misunderstood. I only see bubbles above the hinges of my rear door (trunk door). Those bubbles, are those considered corrosion? It is so annoying that I will sell the car as soon as I have it back. I'm so annoyed with Jeep and those issues no one is really interested in fixing :(
I'm sorry you're experiencing the same issue as many others who have posted here, in forums and in FaceBook groups. I just don't see how it can be "any" kind of rust, as aluminum doesn't rust. You need iron(Fe) as found in steel panels to get rust. One might think that when the Jeep gets fixed, that is the best time to sell it for a decent resale value.
Maybe you should consider a review on the POOR electronics all the CDJR vehicles are plagued with. When the radio starts to delaminate all the electronics in the Jeep fail. Not just the radio, heat, air everything goes OUT! Jeep knowes this and has for years. They offer no assistance to the consumer once this happens. It'll cost you up to $1800.00 to repair with no guarantee it won't happen again. STAY AWAY from Jeeps!
I feel your frustration with your Jeep. I read many similar complaints on Jeep Wrangler Forums and on Jeep FaceBook Club posts.
Thank you for continually keeping this issue known to the buying public! Well done informational video.
Thanks Dennis!
Cheers.
Thanks man for the update on an issue that has been plaguing me with my 2019 rubicon unlimited. So far only all of my hinges were affected. Dealership quickly and quietly painted all 4 doors. Sadly it’s never quite the same as the factory in regards to QC. GOOD TO KNOW THAT ITS NOT JUST A CANADIAN ISSUE. We all bought these jeeps knowing that a June bug would destroy the windshield, and that we were going to pay an arm and a leg to drive this amazing looking vehicle to every gas station but I don’t think anyone thought that we would be dealing with corrosion/oxidation/paint bubbling and flaking after 1 and a half years in my case
Hey mathew,
Very true.
Very sad, but very true.
Wow you scared me mister! Only 1.5 years?
Just got my jeep 3 weeks ago.
So far I've been reading a lot about how to take care of it. Specially getting ready for QC winters.
Did you applied a protective product or something?
A lot of people apply crown rust proofing, or fluid film. I’ve made a couple videos about that as well. Feel free to check them out. Cheers.
I had worked as a body tech and a painter at a Jeep Dealer in Maryland for years. The only way we allowed to repair this issue was with brand new body panels. If the panels are repaired and not repaired they have wind up with a high repair failure rate. We did a couple Jeep Wranglers, GC’s a month. The parts supply issues during the pandemic did slow our pace a bit since we couldn’t get new doors for awhile.
If a place is only repairing the panels find another place!!!
Hey Jason,
That’s valuable information.
FCA however will not fix it now due to my high kilometres in the Jeep. If I was in the US, their warranty is unlimited miles, so I’d be able to push for warranty work and maybe new panels.
Thanks for the info.
Jason, is there a requirement to replace or is it left to the discretion of the facility? I'm looking at buying an 18 Rubicon in the next few weeks (it's trade coming to my favorite dealer) and want to know how to address this with the GM there. He's a stand up guy and I want to work out an understanding about the path forward if/when I have issues with it, should I decide to buy it. Thanks in advance!
@@brianfiore9024 My hinges got replaced on the second reoccurring corrosion incident, and so far they have not corroded again. The doors were simply repaired, upon the second reoccurring of corrosion, and now corrosion on my doors has reappeared for the third time. This would lead me to believe that the only solution would be to replace to corrupted parts, with clean ones. I have heard where a dealership replaced the persons doors. I hope this is helpful.
@@CheaperJeeperTV I think you have cause to state that the issue was never properly fixed and they are still liable for the repair. You raised issue while the vehicle was under warranty and it was not correctly fixed.
My wife and I are in the same boat with her 2019 Jl every hinge and the front of the hood have bubbling it's insane to pay $42k dollars for this too happen in only 3yrs of ownership.
And like mine, keeps coming back after two repairs already!!!
I paid $67,000 right jeep JL wrangler unlimited Rubicon and my jeep was housed in my garage and only had 5400 original miles on it to this day. It took me a year and a half of fighting with Jeep corporate until they finally relented and agreed to fix my jeep. Then I had to go to 11 different jeep dealerships before I could find one that agreed to fix the problem since all the other jeep dealerships were all pain are their own pockets for each Jeep repair that they made even though it was Fiat Chrysler who fucked up an allowed the vehicles to be released and sold the customers anyway. Fiat Chrysler is most definitely negligent on this and every other recall that I’ve underwent since I’ve owned my jeep. I’ve done Chrysler‘s advertising for the last 35 years and I refused to buy a Chrysler up until I purchased my jeep because of the shitty quality. When I saw my jeep I fell in love with it and bought it off the lot only to be told by the dealership that they could’ve sold it 10 times over since I purchased it to other customers.
Chrysler is famous for punting They’re problematic vehicles down the road the only way to hold Chrysler responsible is to get in their face and call corporate every single day until They agree to correct and mediate the problem that they created in the first place. If you are Chrysler I would simply pay for high-end materials in the first place instead of constantly cutting corners they wouldn’t constantly be in this position. It’s exactly why Daimler decided to pull out of the deal with Chrysler from the very beginning. Mercedes is known for their quality and they did everything they could to bring up Chryslers quality however Chrysler‘s management and ownership are absolute assholes they continue to do things the old ways which is they only care about profit over people. It’s a shame that they’ve scammed so many people are their money. This is the last jeep I’ll ever own I’d much rather buy a Ford bronco, a G wagon, A hummer or any other 4 x 4 other than a vehicle made by Fiat Chrysler ever again
Wow. You clearly feel strongly about your buying experience. I can’t say I blame you after spending such money on a “new” vehicle only to be saddled down with problems.
Is it just me or your background music sounds like a 1970’s porno
@@imghost6296 Lesson learned. I will never buy any Jeep after '06. They are absolute garbage.
Jeep
Born: 1941
Died: 2006
It was a good run, but it's over. At least we have CJ's, YJ's and TJ's that we can restore and maintain that will last.
I had my 2018 JLUR repaired under warranty. Jeep replaced both front doors and the rear driver door, and had a body shop repair my hood, and tailgate. I was initially very happy with the resolution…UNTIL I found that the door panes they used as replacements DO NOT have any welded seams! Most importantly around the channel that retains the weather stripping. So even though there is weather stripping there the channel that it sits in is not sealed against the door panel. There is anywhere up to 1/8” gap all the way around the bottom of the door. I didn’t notice this until driving down the interstate and wondering where the wind noise was coming from. That and the fact that there is a lot of air leaking into the car. Of course it was going into the winter when I discovered the air leak. I took it back to Jeep, they documented it and was presenting that information to Jeep for resolution. I didn’t get a response until late spring. So I had to use gaffers tape to seal the gaps to keep out the winter air and kill the wind noise for the winter! Jeep’s response was that “there was nothing wrong with the door panels…that’s how they make them now”. WHAT?! So I asked them how in the world will that keep water out of my vehicle is I were to ford a water crossing that came up over the bottom door sill? Crickets. Then I was later told that they will no longer work on the issue as they have completed the repair and there is nothing wrong with my doors. Where’s the middle-finger emoji?! Cause that’s what they gave me.
Wow. That’s brutal!!! Sorry to hear about your experience.
Like I said in other replies, I wish I was aware about this issue before I purchased.
Please what Phone number of Chrysler Jeep did you contact
I have called 3x & gotten Dealers 8 that for not inspect or give you a repair shop
Thank you Dino! You helped me dodge the Jeep JL paint bubbling debacle. Your videos and articles helped me select the right Jeep Wrangler unlimited for me. Which ended up being a 2016 Jeep Wrangler unlimited 75th anniversary model in black, with only 57,000 KMs.
I take delivery on the 25th of August 2022!
Hey Tony,
Awesome! Nice find! You’re going to enjoy it for sure.
Cheers
Hey there! How did you dodge the paint problem?
I believe he bought a JK instead of a JL.
I traded a 2019 JL with a few problem spots. The dealership didn't care. I guess they know they can sell it to somebody who is unaware of the corrosion issue. So far my 2021 shows no signs but I know, it's only a matter of time. I'll get rid of it then. I bet this video opened up a few eyes!
Hey Randy,
Create thought of it, I would have appreciated it if someone had shared this information with me when I was looking for a vehicle. I hope the video is helpful for somebody.
Cheers
will be very interested to learn the. results of the class action. ...hope we win big
Hey miles,
Yes. It will be interesting.
Cheers
Thank you for the info. You have helped me decide to get the 4Runner instead. Had a 2000 Toyota Tacoma years ago. Rust/frame issue. The Tacoma was 10 years old, 115k miles on it. Toyota bought the truck back from me at 150% street value with an apology from Toyota. Shame that Jeep lost me today as a customer. C'mon Jeep, repeat customers is where the $ is!!!
Hey Edward,
I frequently compare in my mind how Toyota handled that situation in comparison to how FCA addresses issues now. I made this video because I wished someone shared this with me when I made my purchasing decision.
Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV Funny thing...I own a 1976 Jeep CJ7 in near mint condition. Still have the original keys and the Jeep still has the American Motors emblem on the back. They truly don't make them like they used to.
Wow. That sound nice. 👍
Ahh you missed out on a lot of fun taking the top down; we have a 4Runner too and while very reliable it is also very boring; we keep it around paid off for an extra car but I don’t grab it on purpose
@@gtamantube it ain't fun if it don't work.... Modern wranglers are trash....... Last Real and reliable wranglers we're the TJ generation, and you can make a strong argument as the best one of all time..........modern Wranglers are middle American Mercedes Benz...... All Bling bling no go go..........
Thank you so much for the information! The mechanic at the dealer and I found tones of bubbles on my 2019 JL bikini pearl. Sadly though, it’s not all on the aluminum. The dealership and Jeep Canada are taking their sweet a$$ time taking care of the issue that I feel they are playing me out of my warranty. Your links are super helpful. Keep it up as I’m a great fan of yours!
Cindy,
Thank you.
I'm sorry to hear of your paint issue, and the warranty hassle.
I too was dragged through a long time of BS when trying to address this issue on my Jeep.
I hope the information shared in the video can be of some use to you.
Good luck.
Cheers.
As long as you have made a claim before the warranty expires, FCA/ Stellantis can take as long as they want but they are still on the hook for the repair. It is based on 'date of claim'.
My 2021 Rubicon is so far so good! 25K hard wheeling miles and it’s been perfect!
Hey DUNE ATV,
Awesome. I’m glad to hear. Hopefully it won’t appear on your Jeep. 🤞
Cheers
@@CheaperJeeperTV I’m in Arizona…I haven’t seen a Jeep yet with this problem
@@DUNEATV as I suspected. As I wrote in my other comment deicing is also horrible for the environment.
Gino! I am a recent follower. This just popped up in my suggestions probably because of recent searches. My 2020 JLU is in the shop for bubbled paint. At least my dealer is replacing not repairing panels. Last year it was the Hood & hinges. This year it is all 4 doors and 8 hinges. I just got a call from the dealer and they are ordering a windshield frame due to bubbling on it. I will need to keep an eye on the rear gate! You are the best!
Hey George, thanks for following along. I’m glad you found the corrosion video helpful. Feel free to share to get the information out there. Good luck with the replaced panels, wisdom out there says that is the best way to go.
I feel you. I have 2018 JL and it’s every where on my doors and hinges, and it’s getting worse. I took it in to the dealer, and I was out of warranty by months so they won’t cover it. So now I don’t know what to do as I’m sure it will be thousands to fix. It’s pretty unfair as Jeeps are expensive and my Jeep is mint aside from this stupid bubbling of the paint. I’m interested in the lawsuit to see where it goes. This should be a recall issue. It’s a manufacturing defect that just won’t go away.
Hello FarmhouseFelts,
I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing the same issues. There are many people out there who are facing this same issue.
It will never be a recall, as it technically isn't a safety issue.
Some people who are beyond warranty have contacted FCA direct, and received "Good Will" repairs to their corrosion. You may want to try that. Many however have reported the corrosion simply returns again.
If I can try to help ease the frustration a little, corrosion will just make the paint bubble off, at least the panels will not disintegrate like what would happen with rust on steel panels.
You'll lose money now if you trade it in. If it's mint and looked after well, you could consider keeping and enjoying it, and later when you learn where and how a proper repair can be done, pursue that option?
As they say, "Misery Loves Company", and as such you may wish to learn more on this new Facebook group;
"Jeep JL Corrosion Warranty Information"
facebook.com/groups/975754000356535
Cheers
Nice overview. Think this issue is growing exponentially. More and more cannot get warranty repair for months and even after all this time, no clear indication that Jeep has corrected the issue. The damage on my 3 YO 4Dr is extensive, 8 months waiting time for repair and will only get crushed if I try to get out from under from under it beforehand . Stuck. Love my Jeep but this has killed my enthusiasm. Class action lawsuit is not enough. Nice work on the video.
Thanks for the feedback on the video. I totally understand how you feel. Even though I had the corrosion repaired/repainted on my body panels, it kept coming back. It seems, from what I am reading on FB posts, the offending pieces must be replaced, and some are getting that done. I wish I was made aware of this before I bought. It surprises me that other UA-camrs aren’t discussing this. Feel free to share the info on this issue to help others.
Best of luck.
Thank you for bringing this up. I’ll have to keep my eyes on not only my 2022 but also my 2014
Hey Les,
Yes keep an eye on the 2022 for sure as this corrosion issue applies to JLs, your 2014 is a JK.
Cheers
my overland gladiator is in right now getting done.... thanks for the video
You’re welcome. I’m glad you found the video helpful. Good luck with the job on your Gladiator. Cheers.
I am in Canada with a 2019 Sahara 4 door and JUST noticed this issue yesterday. I am Very disappointed. This is my first Jeep and I was hoping to have it for a long, long time. I do love everything about a Jeep and have wanted one since I was a teenager. Now upon further digging I am noticing this corrosion all over from others. You are correct in saying that even if you go with a different brand the same may occur mainly because most companies are switching to aluminum as opposed to steel. I do somewhat regret not getting a 2018 JK when I was looking at the time. I really love the LEDs and the front grill of the JLs (what was my deciding factor). Now with only 49K kilometres at 4 years old my Jeep has corrosion around the hinges and down by the drivers bottom door. I am questioning when I go to my dealer if I should just demand new doors and not just repainted. From reading previous it appears by touching up the repairs as in your video the bubbling comes back. It leads back to prep prior to the door being painted. Oh what to. So frustrating
Hey Carlene,
That's what I believe too. If the doors are already contaminated or improperly primed, the corrosion will creep around and appear over time. Mine were "repaired" twice, and the corrosion appeared again on the same doors, buy just slightly in a different position, so given I am over the warranty limit in kilometres, they refuse to repair it saying it isn't in the area of the previous repair... The hinges corroded twice, they replaced them, and the new hinges have not shown any signs of corrosion. I wish they replaced the doors like they did the hinges. I AM aware of someone who had his doors replaced.
On my painted doors and other repaired panels, the dealer did an absolutely horrendous repaint job. It is so disappointing.
I am not sure how to launch a class action lawsuit in Canada, but maybe should investigate that.
I did a video on this same issue on our ‘19 Rubicon several months back. Waited 4 months for the appointment and then the body shop had it for 4 weeks. Only saving Grace was that they provided us with a Grand Cherokee loaner. We just got it back. They repainted the hood and all 4 doors. The paint looks as good as factory but if it comes back, we are dumping it. It’s a tots joke that Jeep can’t seem to correct the underlying issue.
Well I wish you the best. I loved my Jeep but after the corrosion came back for the third time and being out of warranty I moved on and bought another brand’s pickup truck. It’s a shame. Jeep won’t get business from me again.
I'm a certificated airframe and powerplant mechanic and deal with corrosion in aluminum structure on a near daily basis. Corrosion on aluminum structure is worse than corrosion on steel given how fast it can literally turn structure into dirt. I don't know what alloy jeep uses but in aviation the .out common alloys use copper for its high strength and conductivity. We will typically use a chemical conversion coating such as alodine (bond rite now) on top of primer and then paint to reduce chances of corrosion.
Hey Glen,
Thank you for your informed point of view. FCA should be talking with you. Thanks again. Cheers.
Great to see a certified A&P tech chime in on this. Flying C-130s into Antarctica showed me the aviation industry has this problem well in hand. Would that FCA gather some A&P technicians into the fold to correct this once and for all...
Hey Dennis,
Interesting.
Cheers
Another great video! I have seen this issue on aircraft "ALOT". And its extremely hard to get rid of it once its started. This is a really bad issue when aircraft sit outside when near salt water. One of the only ways to get it so stop is a solution of Alumiprep-33 now called BONDERITE C-IC 33 AERO before paint primer. I use the word stop when I should have said slow. If the dealer is just using primer when BONDERITE C-IC 33 AERO is needed as a base coat before primer its going to come back and relatively quick. Cleaning aluminum is really impossible since it develops a surface corrosion / oxidation within minutes after the surface is touched by air. I know this is an issue on Jeeps but you can use de-salt cleaner for boats that works well at flushing the crust of road salts off of the surface. Sorry did not mean to steal your info just wanted to add to it.
Awesome. Thanks.
I love how informative this channel is. You kindly breakdown everything nicely 👍🏼. PS I own a 2918 JL Sport but in white so it’s a little less noticeable but it’s there alright
Thank you for your feedback on the channel. I’m glad you find it informative. Feel free to share!😝
Sorry to hear you have the dreaded corrosion issue on your Jeep as well.
I’ve come to believe that only replacement of the offending body panels will fix the issue. My hinges were replaced and there was no further signs of continued corrosion. My doors were repaired/repainted twice and then the corrosion returned again. Now that I’m buying the parameters of the warranty, further repairs would be at my cost. It’s not a great place to be after buying such an expensive new vehicle. 🤷🏻♂️
Just found some corrosion on the hinges on the tailgate. Not sure what I an going to do yet but still love my JL and would do it all over again regardless.
Hey Anton,
I certainly can understand how you like your Jeep so much.
Corrosion flaws in such an expensive and new vehicle, like on many JLs, and JTs is simply inexcusable. Especially in this day and age when the knowledge and practice is out there to do a better job.
@@CheaperJeeperTV I hear you. I've been fighting with a subtle ticking sound and after a turbo (and wastegate) replacement last year, tick is back and there is a timing chain waiting for me... thanks for all of your work into these videos!
Thank you for providing sources. You rock!
Hey Nate,
You are welcome
Cheers
I have a Jeep JL 2018. I noticed the same spot had the paint bubblling up. I went to the dealerswhip. They said I had 4 months left on the corrosion warranty. I was also told that since I reported it I was covered. Thing is there were 95 jeeps ahead of me, They said every month they send two jeeps in for repaIRS. I won't get mine fixed until mid 2024. Hopefully it will only be one time.
So many people experiencing this issue. Such a shame. I hope it works out for you.
Cheers.
Thank you so much for this video. My 07 Jeep JK had this issue. I never fixed it. I have a 2021 Wrangler Rubi with no issues so far. If/when it does happen, I will fix it myself. Knowing it won’t perforate…I feel better.
I agree, it’s good to keep a positive spin on it, in that the aluminum will only corrode, making the paint flake, and not will not disintegrate as rust would do to steel. Cheers
Not sure what a keelomiter is , but I feel for you. I'm glad I have a TJ
Hey Pete,
I kilometre is .6 miles. In a lot of ways the JL is a huge upgrade from earlier models of the Wrangler, but the JLs corrosion issue is something new buyers need to take into account.
Cheers.
Was planning on upgrading my 2012. Won’t be doing that anymore. Thanks for the heads-up.
You are welcome.
Thanks for the video. I was planning to order the 2025 model later on this year when it becomes available to order online. But this Corrosion issue really bothers me, I have been on many forums and it seems there is no real solution for it! 😥
Yeah, I hear you. I'm still a Jeep fan, but the corrosion issue is a real pain for sure. The options from Toyota would be my next go-to consideration.
My 19 JLU has had the doors ( all 4 ) painted twice , the hinges as well now is back again on two doors 4 hinges the hood & tailgate !!!! After all the time and money dumped into it i almost have it back to stock . TRADING IT IN !!! it seems to be somewhat rare in my area since there's only a handful of Jeeps in the clubs we belong to so im hoping i can find a 23 Gladiator that won't give me the same issues but we know the hand you shit in fills up way before the other hand doors with hopes & wishes so ill prob ger screwed again with the new one !!! Great video thanks here is luck to all is keep owners !!!!
Hi Craig,
I understand why you still want to have a Jeep. Googling luck.
Cheers.
2021 JL 4xe. Corrosion appeared 4 months after taking ownership. I am having it repainted now.
Hey GB,
Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully it doesn’t reappear as it has been known to happen. Good luck.
So far I've experienced the corrosion issue on my door hinges and that was repaired by the dealership. I'll be checking the other areas closer for this. Thanks for the information.
Also, in other spots around the edge of your body panels. On mine as one area was repaired, more corrosion later appeared next to it.
I am also experiencing it in my JL around the front window by the hinge there.
Ah. Sorry to hear about that. I hope you get some resolution to the matter that is satisfactory to you.
I used to service and repair aluminum fuel trailers. This is the perfect example as to why our manufacturers don't paint the barrels. It allowed our wash team to acid bath the trailers and remove any surface corrosion after winter. I know it’s different on cars but damn this sucks. Hope my 22’ JT has been addressed on this issue.
Hey there BetweenThePines,
If you hear that they have done anything different, please share with us the link. Thanks
I bought a 2021 gladiator and on the hood there are 2 spots that are blistering up. 33000 miles. Was told by dealership to get an estimate from the body shop that they use. Had to go back twice.This has been going on for 2 months now and the factory warranty is coming up to the end. The dealership has done what it’s supposed to do,the company isn’t doing what they promised to do.
I feel your pain. Apparently I read online that there is a proper way to repair these things so that it doesn’t return. I’m not sure though.
I have to do a little more research in that maybe make another video on the proper way to repair it given that so many are complaining about it returning.
Dino, thanks for the info. I learn more from your channel. Thanks for keeping it real.
Hey Mid-Life Crisis Adventures,
Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad to hear that you find the videos helpful.
Cheers
My 2019 JL has been at the bodyshop over 7 weeks now. Hood and all 4 doors.
Sorry to hear that. You have to deal with this as well. Good luck with the repair. Cheers.
Corrosion inhibitors have been around for over 80 yrs. or more. No vehicle should ever have a corrosion problem for ever in its life. I asked a GM engineer about corrosion inhibitors and he offhandedly said they just change from yr to yr. I asked why they didn’t stay with one that works by looking at corrosion history of cars on the road. He said, “we don’t ever look back at what worked”.
🤷🏻♂️
thanks for the vid. i had both my doors and hood replaced last summer from the corrosion on the hinges and along the bottom/leading edges, hopefully it wont happen again. the bodyshop shop said they pre-painted the doors/hood before mounting the hinges and think that will help
I hope it works out. Mine kept returning 3x before they wouldn’t repair it again under warranty. Good luck.
I wonder if adding a rubber gasket in-between the door hinge and the body of the door would stop the 2 different metal electrolysis issue.. as mentioned before this is a issue I just learned about in home plumbing where 2 different metals are used and small pins hole occur over time and cause leaks. Many copper pipes are affixed to studs using steel clamps.. I had a few leaks happen and was told by many plumbers about this electrolysis issue occurring there as well.. 2 different metals can cause this.
Maybe that addresses the corrosion around the hinge, but it also occurs elsewhere on body panels nowhere near the steel bolts.
Whatever the reason, if FCA wont address this, given that the TSB addresses vehicles with aluminum panels since 2013, wary buyers may want to know when considering a purchase.
Cheers
Thanks for the follow up and additional info, Dino. 😎👍
Hey Scott,
You are very welcome.
Cheers.
i think you addressed my question at the end, it won’t get ‘worse’ or actually start chipping / ‘rust-out’… than what it is, am i right? wonder what the worst cases look like … or what they will look like in 5 years… dealerships don’t have me sold on a permanent fix and the hassle and risk of causing new imperfections makes me lean towards just living with it… still interested to know how bad it can get and or worst case scenarios *edit* my bubbles are at the bottom right side of the tailgate, just noticed today while detailing …
It won’t perforate, but I have seen pictures on Facebook of others who have gotten worse and the paint begins to chip off. Also, I believe, the only solution to fix it is to replace the offending component.
Simply repairing/repainting only resulted in it coming back for the throes time for me. Sorry to hear about your rig experiencing the corrosion.
Good luck.
My Jeep is a 2018 as well but I’ve never had a issue with corrosion . We do use salt on the roads during winters but we don’t have that much snow so mine has been exposed very little to the salt. Another reason might be that mine is garage kept.... Thanks for the info.....
I'm glad you're in good shape with respect to corrosion issue...fingers crossed it won't appear later. Cheers.
In this case, salt has nothing to do with it. It happens under the paint. Good luck!
I have a 21 JLU. No corrosion issues on mine. That said, I had an 08 Expedition that had the same corrosion problems on the aluminum body panels. It was the result of the aluminum not being prepped properly prior to paint. FWIW, I live in the salt belt.
Thanks for sharing.
I hope you have better luck with your JLU.
Cheers
I am in the uk..4 year old 2019 JL rubicon. Despite the warranty being 5 years, i am tild the paint warranty is only 3 years...the jeep has only done 15k miles, and has blisters on both doors, a wing, under hood and door hinges. Rear door and hinges are ok. My vehicle cost about $70k here...and still zero help from FCA/Stellantis.
Sorry to hear about your Jeep corrosion issue. Canada’s warranty for this is different from that in the US as well.
I brought mine in under warranty but it kept returning. It appears some people have actually had offending components replaced and it subsequently did not return. Once beyond the warranty FCA sent me packing. I sold my Jeep to get what I could get for it, but still at a loss as a result of the corrosion issue.
There are many any posts about this in Facebook groups and Jeep forums. Not to mention the class action lawsuit filed. I loved the Jeep but can’t put my hard earned money into another one until I learn that this issue has been resolved. Good luck.
Does Rustolium Paint, & or Rino Liner Paint, help so No rust... Will show up on JL, & or JT, Jeeps???
🤷🏻♂️
So - if it is corrosion and not perforation - would it be better to wrap the jeep instead of trying to repaint it?
I believe that the corrosion would continue to happen under the wrap and bubbling of the paint will occur and possibly be seen through the wrap. I haven’t seen it myself so I can’t say for sure.
@@CheaperJeeperTV So - if you removed the paint, then did the wrap is a better way to phrase my question. I'm just thinking if the paint is the problem ( lack of proper adhesion) then this might be a way around it?
@scottvenable157 I’m not an expert at this however, the aluminum oxide that would build up the surface would preclude the wrap from being able to stick to the panel, I think…
@@CheaperJeeperTV Got ya. Dangit.... I thought I was onto something. LOL Thanks for the quick replies!
Had our 2020 JL repainted last year, tailgate, hood, all 4 doors and they replace all the hinges including the tailgate hinges.
Just noticed most of the corrosion came back on the door hinges and on the bottom of one door. Jeep has only 35k on it. I’m heading Back to the dealer to start the whole process of getting it fixed again tomorrow.
I better not have to pay a dime, I’m in Massachusetts.
From what I am reading on FaceBook groups and forums, I believe replacing the offending components is the only solution to keep the corrosion from reappearing.
Sorry to hear you have to deal with this too. Best of luck.
@@CheaperJeeperTV We already had the hood tailgate and one door replaced last summer. So far those panels that got replaced show no signs of corrosion. The 2 hinges on the door that got replaced look good too, as well as the hood hinges.
All the other door hinges show corrosion as well as two other doors, which I believe were painted and not replaced.
So I believe you are right about replacing and not just painting.
I've had the hinges done 3 times and all the doors twice. Going in for it again and it's all over the place now. It's a 18 JLU.
Exactly as mine was. For me they refused to do any more dues to my linage saying I was out of warranty. I claimed I had brought it in while under warranty but it kept coming back because they hadn’t repaired it properly. They said to bad so sad, so I ended up selling it at a loss in resale value due to this issue. I’m gutted by it as I loved the Jeep, but the corrosion issue was getting away in me and I thought I should sell it while I could still get something for it.
Found some corrosion on my 2021 Rubicon, all of it involved the hinges! I took it to the stealership and they are looking in to it, its been two weeks and no contact from them. Very disappointed in FCA.
I feel your pain.
I looked at 5 different 2018 JL to purchase last month,and only 1 out of the 4 was super clean. The other 4 had corrosion or oxidization on all the doors. It was the first thing I noticed but the one I chose is seriously clean. No corrosion at all. Nice video
Hey Saint Brando,
At least you're aware and you can keep an eye open for this.
Cheers
JEEP and RUST are like Ying and Yang. Always been a thing. I had CJ's and TJ's that you could see the street through the floor.
Yes but this corrosion issue is a little different. Cheers.
American, 2020 Wrangler 4-dr.
I noticed it starting on my vehicle in a couple of those same spots.
My plan is simply to grind it out myself if it ever becomes necessary. I don't care if the paint matches perfectly, as long as the corrosion is arrested.
Cool. Send me picture or videos and I’ll make an episode. Good luck. Cheers.
Thank you for this "Heads Up Video!" I cannot imagine the anger a Jeep owner would feel with only a few years or less time in the Mid Western states of Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, and others that use "deicing chemicals" on their roads! Carry On getting the word out to the citizens.
Hey David,
Yep. Very much anger. FCA has been dealing with this in their TSB on vehicles as old as 2013!...I wish people put the word out sooner, so there would be fewer of us that are feeling so burned. I guess having a class action lawsuit out there helps get the word out more. Please feel free to share this information to help others make a better automobile purchasing decision.
Cheers
Damn glad I prefer warm, arid climates. Deicing is so bad for the environment also. I suggest this is the price you pay for choosing to live where you do and allowing your government to put toxic chemicals on the roads.
My 2019 Jeep Wrangler JL has corrosion on the hood the doors the hinges the back door it just never ends and it's in the shop right now been waiting for several months to get it in they told me it could take a month to a month and a half to fix it but they did provide me with the rental car Jeep is paying for that and Jeep is also paying for everything that needs fixed thank God
Wow. Hopefully they do a nice job. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers.
I have a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Mojave the metal in the rear bumper where the hooks come out is completely rusting out from last winter I haven't looked at it recently I figured I'm going to wait right before the warranty is up have them fix that also the door bolts that you take off to pull the doors off they're not black anymore they're turning white just awful
Hey Jamie,
That sounds like a good plan. In fact, I'd make sure in advance that the dealership understands and is agreeable with the plan and timing. You'd hate to have left it 'till then, and have problems with them honouring it.
Good luck.
Perfect sales pitch for a new Bronco. Thanks, this news made up my mind.
Hey Jager,
I did
Mention in the video that getting an other type of vehicle may have its own issues, so…keep that in mind when deciding what to get. I just thought that given this information about the corrosion issue, some people might appreciate knowing about this. Feel free to share this to help others.
Cheers
LOL , guess you never looked into the issues with those piles of shit.
@@MOPERY609 Hey mike, I thought I did, but didn't come across any mention of FCAs aluminum panel issues. Thats why I wanted to put the word out there about this...feel free to share.
@@CheaperJeeperTV I was referring to the new broncos, wait until the op reads about the 2.7 engine failures.
Ahhhh! Ok!!!
My aluminum boat and my hot water heater both have sacrificial zinc anodes, I wonder if they were attached to the aluminum body panels if that would help.
Hey David, are those parts submersed in water to aid in the process?
I have a 2019 jlu and jeep is trying to get out of fixing my paint corrosion issue l. Had it in before warranty ran out
Sorry to hear about the corrosion issue that you’re dealing with. Good luck.
I have two small areas on my hood color black. 2018 JL. Was really surprised. This is good.
Hey Mark,
Good luck getting it looked after under warranty.
Cheers
They drag the body through the tank the E-Coat doesn’t have time to penetrate into the seems, or in Jeeps case they mount the doors to the body while it’s all bear steel. Seen it with my own eyes. Been in the auto business for 44 years if you have further questions
Awesome info! Based on what you know, if a panel hasn’t been prepped/dipped properly, is it possible to correct or repair a panel that has begun to corrode?
Thanks.
Ive owned 4 different jeeps now. What sucks is all of them he been overall great vehicles, but most of them have had some weird little issue like this that ruins the whole thing. I actually have not had this problem yet but I just replaced my battery for the second time on a 3 year old Wrangler. As far as I can tell, almost every single JL and JT has a defective battery system that causes them to die in a short time period. What I really dont understand, is the dealership replaced the batteries for free the first time (cost them $350+) and Im pretty sure they would have done it for free again the second time. But by that time I was done with the issue so I rewired the batteries and deleted the auxiliary battery. But, my point is, FCA / Dealers are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to fix these issues, so I dont understand why they dont just issue a recall or actually address the problems from the factory.
It is costing them in reputation as well, which defies logic as to why they just don’t resolve this issue.
Fellow Canadian here. I bought my 2019 last year, used. I didn't know about the corrosion issue at the time. Then I noticed bubbling on the door hinges. They replaced all door hinges and repainted..... only the doors... The color didn't match. the Jeep looked like a popsicle. I fought and they repainted it a second time and this time they blended on the sides. The job wasn't perfect, but acceptable. That was last fall. Fast forward to the 1st week of August 2022, I noticed bubbles on all 4 doors. Not even close to hinges or edges. Just plain in the middle of doors. To me it points to inadequate processes and/or installations to handle aluminum, and contamination. I contacted my dealer, they took pictures. I still have 2 years on my 5 years corrosion warranty and I'm well within the km limit, but it's still a PITA. With the dealer we will be pushing to replace all hinges AND doors. We'll see. Even then, I'm not sure it's a permanent solution since I don't think they solved the problem at the source...
Hey Eric,
Sorry to hear that you had the corrosion issue as well. My hinges were replaced but my doors were not. The hinges do not have any signs of corrosion returning. But my doors had corrosion up here now for the third time. So replacement of the doors is at least a chance to get A set of doors that were prepared properly. It’s clear that mine or not, but because I have so many kilometres I am out of luck in this regard. Good luck to you my friend.
Cheers
@@CheaperJeeperTV I'll keep you updated but we may decide to wait for spring to start the process. I want to have all the evidence to push for new doors and possible new hinges (again) too just to be sure. So far I don't have any bubbling on the new hinges so maybe you are right. I'll give it some time though... my confidence is pretty low at this point. 😒
Hey Eric,
Yep. That sounds like a good plan. For sure keep me posted.
Cheers
@@CheaperJeeperTV i am also in toronto, sorry, what is the corrosion warranty in Canada? Is it 5 years 100000km?
I believe wham I called FCA they told me it was 160 000 km and 3 years. I asked them to direct me somewhere online where it is in print and if I recall correctly they said it is t available in print.
Hi I am no expert but…
Starting with aluminum boats, Old Land Rovers Series 2 and 3. Aluminum Tanks on motorcycle’s, I was informed of Electrolyses.
Aluminum is one element and steel, brass, copper are another element.
When water and salt get between the elements, electrolysis occurs. Rapidly or slowly. With this knowledge, bass fittings and such are not used in direct contact on aluminum boats.
The British were allegedly reported to use Positive Grounding on British Vehicles to reduce further the electrolysis. (Thank you, John Lucas, the Prince of Darkness!). *** Further research required to verify the Positive Ground ***
Steel Hinges and Aluminum body panels require more washing with anti salt neutralizer’s after driving on the King’s Highways! Especially in winter with Salt or Mag Chloride being used as de ice on the roads.
Hope this helps.
Hey TarktheSharkUSA,
Thanks for the info.
My feeling is that the flaw may be in the aluminum body panels. Prep? Priming? Quality?
Audi owner's vehicles aren't afflicted with this corrosion issue, and I don't believe they wash their vehicles more or anything.
Cheers.
We got a 2020 wrangler. Getting 4 doors and hood fixed I hope April 4
Careful. I read on the forums and have experienced that replaced components so not have corrosion return but components that are simply repainted have corrosion that returns. Good luck.
My 2019 HellaYella JLU Sport has fallen victim on 3 of the 4 doors. I’m interested to find out how I can join the Class Action Lawsuit. I did take it back to the dealership and they approved it for “repair” not replacement. The quickest they could get me in was 3 weeks out and they promised me a loaner vehicle. Fast forward to day of drop off and guess what? “We never promised you a loaner, we don’t have any”. The Jeep is my only source of transportation to and from work. I left highly disgusted and angry. Needless to say the corrosion is still there and I’m at a loss of what to do next.
On a side note I bought a 2005 Ford Expedition new and it did the exact same thing on the aluminum lift gate. Except 3 and 4 inch sections of paint popped completely off. Ford flat out refused to do anything about it.
Hey Bill,
Sorry to hear about the bad experience. It's good for people to know about this. If you look up articles on the class action lawsuit, the legal firm contact information is provided. You can contact them for information on the lawsuit.
Good luck.
Is this happeniing to ALL types of exterior colours?
I'm asking because I remember Honda having a flaking paint issue that affected certain coloured paints.
From what I have read on forum posts, nobody has determined if it is just happening to certain colours. Sorry I don't have more on that.
Great video. Hope to see you at Canada Jeep show!,
Hey Marc,
I am actually on my way there now!!.See you there.
Cheers.
What a great show!!!!! I have lots of things to share with viewers in next weeks video!!!
So what does a Jeep owner do? Replace the hinges with steel one's, get stainless steel screws or put some kind of gasket on the underside of the hinge?
My understanding is that the solution is to replace the contaminated aluminum hinges with new aluminum hinges but also to paint between where the hinges join to the body. I’ve read on many forums also, that people are having their whole door panels and hoods replaced, i.e. any contaminated aluminum parts with new parts in order to stop the corrosion. If you just repair/repaint the offending area, it seems to return, or at least as has been the case for me and others who I have read about on the forums. Good luck.
I am having this issue with my 2022 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4xe. I don’t know what to do. Corrosion is on my hood and door hinges.
It’s up to you what you do. There is a large Facebook group where you could find out from others how they pursued this through their warranty. Sorry to hear about the corrosion on your jeep. Good luck.
Great video topic on this matter.
Thank you. It’s beyond me why major influencers aren’t sharing this helpful information. Please feel free to share to help others.
Cheers.
thank you for your honesty regarding yyour jeep.
Hey B P,
You're welcome.
I just thought someone should let others know about this issue so that they could make an informed automobile purchasing decision.
Cheers.
Thanks for posting this Dino..Good to know...
Hey Cobracarrera21,
You are welcome. It's good to get this information out to potential buyers so that they can be informed. I wish that I was aware of this when I made my purchase.
Just a bit of an FYI as well. We are having similar issues with home plumbing with copper pipes leaking with pin hole size leaks because 2 different metals are used. The copper pipes are attached to the studs using steel clamps which causes the same electrolysis issues over time.. many plumber friends mentioned this and I was surprised to hear.
My dealer told me because I didn't get the under coating and paint sealant package. They were not going to cover the damage.
Hey Bill,
What?!?!?! Is this also the dealership where you purchased the Jeep? They won't honour the warranty? That is complete nonsense!!!! They should be ashamed of them selves pulling that stunt!!! There is nothing stated in their substandard warranty that says you have to pay for those packages to be warrantied!! That is absolutely shameful!!!!
It is something covered by the warranty...if they won't do it, call FCA or take it to another dealership. I am sure many others would like to know the dealership you're talking about so that they can avoid it.
@@CheaperJeeperTV Gladstone dodge in Gladstone Missouri
well I am an engineer and I will tell you this is from improper panel prep. it is also on almost every aluminum bodied vehicle for decades. some of this is also due to improper grounding of the panel. I have a new JT and will keep an eye out but my Mustang hood and Audi deck had the same issue. this is not a jeep thing but a automotive product defect
I agree. Thank you so much for the feedback. Cheers.
Whats the best way to check for proper grounding of the panels?
I'd really like to know if this issue also plagues jeeps in warmer/drier climates.
I think it does from what I’ve been reading. Check out the FaceBook group called “Jeep JL Corrosion Warranty Information “
@@CheaperJeeperTV Thanks much. I joined the group and posted a question on the southwest region. Also, I sent you an email. Hope to hear from you
2021 gladiator Rubicon with 17k miles, garage kept like a damn princess and I just found rust on the hood. I am beyond livid
Absolutely! I’m reading online on Facebook groups that the only solution is to have the offending panels of contaminated metal replaced. Many share that the dealers had done this for them. As in my case, the hinges were replaced and the corrosion didn’t return. The other body panels were simply repaired/repainted two times and it returned for a third time. As my warranty ran out. I maintained that since I brought it in while under warranty, and since they hadn’t resolved the issue properly, that they needed to replace the offending panels. Unfortunately for me, they refused. I hope you have better luck.
I thought lemon law would cover this issue. Pretty sure if the problem was addressed and not fixed lemon law kicks in and has a time limit. Believe they have 1 year or 12 k miles to fix the problem. In illinois but guess each state is different. Does not help if it happens after the 5 year warranty.
@russbrown9286 Or if you’re in Canada. 🤷🏻♂️
@CheaperJeeperTV that sucks if they were working on a known problem and it was not fixed even after the 5 years 100 k. Unreal !!!
@russbrown9286 I know!!! It was gut wrenching.
thanks for your VERY useful videos but I'll ask you: but what about your tyres DURATRAK? I should like to know your opinion.
Hey Dimitris,
They were great!!! I would recommend them.
Cheers
Thank you for the video. I find this very cower in a way from the manufacture as their wranglers are not cheap in Canada.
You are welcome. I hope you found it helpful. No they are NOT cheap and buyers should not have to face this issue so early in ownership.
Sine the Wranglers are engineered with the concept of doors being removed, it would be nice to have them made out of aluminum including hood and gate to reduce weights which the gas mileage can be increased very noticeably.
Yes, the Wrangler JLs are in fact engineered that way. They just haven't mastered the art of properly painting them so that they don't corrode and have the paint bubble on them I guess. Other manufacturers have I believe.
Reminds of an old saying fools and their money soon part
Hey Scott,
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers
Just waiting until the Toyota 4Runner comes out next year. My jeep just spent two months in the body shop
I hear you. Get your name in because I’m thinking there will be quite a wait for them. Cheers.
Yep have the same problem with or 19 jlu on uper front of windshield
Sorry to hear. Hopefully it can get done under warranty. Good luck.
My dream vehicle is Jeep Wrangler! I only got it 6months ago but broke down 3 times since I got it because of
over heat , second was December and after two weeks death wobble again I have extended warranty but the things that need to get fixed is not covered paid $3k out of my pocket for repairs now is it time to let it go?
PS it’s a Jeep wrangler 2014 has 96k Mileage when I got it.
Hey RoseMary,
That will have to be your decision. Everyone has a different threshold for different things.
My Jeep has this corrosion issue, and it doesn't bother some people, but for me, the prospect of continually dealing with flaking paint due to aluminum body panel corrosion was enough for me to sell and move on. I work too hard for my money to repeatedly throw it at a vehicle for repeated repairs, when it isn't necessary.
In your case you seem to have recurring mechanical issues, and for some people, they pay for repairs and endure the inconvenience because they are hooked to the vehicle, but others might move on to something more reliable, and also more affordable.
So...you have to decide, is there something about the Jeep you want so bad that you're prepared for possible more repair costs and inconvenience, or could there possibly be another, more reliable vehicle, that you might also still enjoy?
Should you decide to move on, at least the resale on the Jeep Wrangler is relatively higher than on other vehicles.
You can see what I ended up doing in this video...ua-cam.com/video/Ts71M5ibA2U/v-deo.html
I hope this was helpful. Good luck with your decision.
Cheers
Thank you for this informative video.
Hey Sunya,
You are very welcome. I just felt that this information was important enough to share it with others who could be affected by this.
Cheers
Cheers
@@CheaperJeeperTV I watch a few of ur videos Love Love!! ❤️
We don’t see that in Texas. Is it just with the salt from roads?
Jason,
I'm not sure of its distribution or that salt is the cause. I believe there are other makes of automobiles with aluminum body panels in areas where there is salt on the roads, and they are not experiencing this problem. From what I've read it possibly is contamination on the aluminum before it gets painted.
Rust runs deep in the jeep family. Now my family have been jeepers ever since I was a kid. Dad started with a 74 renegade and it was a rusty mess in a few years same thing with his 79 wrangler. He then bought an 88 cj7 the least rusty of the bunch but still rusted around the spring mounts and cracked lol. Then he picked up a 2002 that I currently own and the frame has literally rusted into beside the transmission crossmember and every body mount has major weight reduction plus the driver side front fender has a nice big hole in it. I honestly think that the mid to late 90s jeep wranglers have the best frames.
Hey grassy,
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers
Thanks for the information. I am beginning to look at Jeeps and have not seen the issues you speak of on California vehicles, but I don’t believe we salt our roads, even in the mountain communities. Is salt the only cause, or should I stay clear of JL’s and look to a low mileage JK, or wait for the problem to be solved by FCA? I’d love to see what you and your viewers think. Do the aluminum panels really make a huge weight difference compared to the JK? Does that contribute to improved fuel economy, or is that negligible?
Thanks for your time.
Hey Brandon,
I believe the aluminum does save some weight, but the JL does have the ZF 8 speed transmission which I believe helps with the fuel efficiency as well. I don’t believe that salt is the issue when it comes to T he FCA corrosion issue, as other manufacturers who utilize aluminum body panels aren’t facing this issue. I believe it has to do with the prep or quality of the aluminum by FCA. I’ve been keeping up with the issue by reading posts in FB and forums and I haven’t read about any correction to the process yet. I recently sold my Jeep and couldn’t bring myself to buy another one after having to deal with this issue and after my experience with FCA. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for your quick reply. I will look for something when I hear that the quality issue has been resolved. I would probably be looking to purchase the 6 speed manual trans as, in my experience, are more bullet proof and easier to maintain.
You are welcome. There was an issue with the JL manual. I believe it has been resolved now. Cheers.
Cheers to you as well. Happy travels this coming spring in your new vehicle.
@@CheaperJeeperTV Speakinig of poor quality and workmanship - I bought a brand new 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon at an out of state dealer and drove it back to SoCal. Upon getting home, I noticed a black speck on the paint on the right front passenger door. I thought it may have been road tar as I did drive quite a ways to get back home. I soon realized it wasn't road tar nor any other road grime but it was actually a foreign object that was painted into the door when it was undergoing factory painting! You can't buff it off as it was pretty deep and you can tell this object landed on the door and the paint was sprayed over it - it was done at the factory!!!
Now you would think that Jeep would have quality inspectors going over every inch of the Jeep before it came off of the assembly line but they missed it! I could easily see it as it was a drak spot on white paint ! ! ! Now I was going to say you'd have to be blind to miss that but if the inspector was actually bline, they probably would have found the flaw through the feel - maybe not if they were wearing gloves!
Never the less, a huge disappointment. I took it to a local dealer and they said they can repaint the entire door. I thought about it and decided against it since the dealer's body shop paint booth isn't the same as what they have at the factory. And if they screw up the color match, I will have an entire door that is a shade off and will be really noticeable! Now this small defect is only visible if you really look for it so I passed on the dealer's warranty repair!
I actually have some Insider understanding of erosion issues faced by all of the major automakers in the United States. I built the equipment that they use that actually controls corrosion.
During the manufacturing process, the bodies and accoutrements of the Body and some frame elements are exposed to what's called an ecote system. If the body is left in ecoat for two higher percentage Beyond what they have determined is optimal. They will literally destroy these bodies by the dozens because they know as a fact that they will not corrode for quite a number of years. So they keep this ecoat mechanism to as close to the minimum as possible. Hence the problem.
When you add things like aluminum body panels, and then you expose it to the atmosphere, especially in areas that might use salt for their Winter Road clearing efforts. You invite what's called a galvanic response. The galvanic action means that as the body becomes electrically active due to the acids and salts that contact with the differential metals. Aluminum begins to degrade quite quickly. Especially when it's electrically in contact with steel. That is a physics issue that cannot be mitigated easily. The move to using aluminum has been faster than their understanding of how to mitigate corrosion in aluminum. Aluminum corrodes very quickly in its original state. Win side of about 5 minutes it forms a layer of what cannot be seen. But is a very thin layer of corrosion upon it just by exposing it to the atmosphere. It does have a protective element to it. But once you connected to steel it will do its level best to turn into a powder as quickly as possible. That's what we understand witness as corroded aluminum. It turns into a white powder. If they're claiming that they didn't know about this. As the evidence shows that's a batch of crap. They have intentionally tried to walk a razor Thin Line when all they need to do is increase the percentage of time that the vehicle set in ecoat and it will probably mitigate this considerably. But they want these vehicles to degrade as quickly as possible so that you will for some ungodly reason, by another one.
Here is an argument you need to make however when you have a corrosion repair. The repair on that spot and anywhere around that spot starts again with mileage. From the mileage that corrosion repair is done it has to in a new at that mileage.
Another suggestion. Take some Marvel Mystery oil, some Deep Creek spray lubricant, some automatic transmission fluid, any of these lubricants and spray them on the inside edges of the door panels and the inside corners of all the fenders and Hood and it will do a lot to retard the growth of corrosion because it insulates the panel from the air. It is cheap insurance. I know that you should not have to do it. This is something that the automotive companies could have done for decades.
A light spray of oil on the inner and outer portions of the frame underneath the vehicle will help that vehicle last years longer. Given that the rust degradation of the frame is a major safety issue eventually, I am surprised that they have never been required to do such things.
Putting on devices on all vehicles that electronically polarizes the body of the vehicle would do wonders for this issue as well. And it would be dirt cheap on the manufacturing level to install such devices. It's not like the vehicle isn't electrically active to begin with which may be part of the problem. Because if it's phased the wrong way it can actually exacerbate the propagation of corrosion.
Hey 44 Hawk,
Thanks for your insight.
Cheers.
And there it is... this is cake taking material, I do enjoy in-depth explanations, much appreciated 👍
Could you please learn how to write English properly. Upvoted for being informative, but my lord how can you claim to be educated with prose that bad. Or maybe you tried to write that in a small edit box on mobile? When you people learn that you need a real computer to write with. Stop using those privacy invasion devices for serious communication.
This is an erosion issue? I thought it was a corrosion issue? Since you have insider information then you must be correct.
Interesting .. are there Certain years its Worse or Certain Colors ? I have a 2021 Sahara JL , just turned 3 years old . .. Snazzberry .. Northern Virginia
I am not aware of any certain colours or years that are worse than others. Sorry.
Over a year with my 2021 4xe and no issues with corrosion !!!
Hey Bendmac,
Sounds good.
Cheers
Has the newer year models showing the same problems?
There is a Facebook group on the JL corrosion issue, and I believe I have read accounts on Jeeps as new as 2022. There is some mentioned about a zinc shim being applied under the hinges on 2024 models which would serve to Postpone the corrosion perhaps.
Will this also be a problem on the 23 and 24 JT ???
Yes, I believe so. On the 2024s, I believe that they have added zinc shims between the hinges and the doors, and this may slow down the process, perhaps?
That is my understanding from what I have read online.
I definitely agree, I mean you expect the paint to last as long as you have the car, unless you scratch it or whatever. I will point out that more times than not it's the prepping of the metal before painting which is the issue, all metals must have the oils removed through degreasing before priming etc, when this is not the case, gassses form and begin to bubble the paint. Yeah so for me, I paid over 80,000 for mine, paint better last till I mess it up 👍👍
Yep!
Thanks for the support !
Cheers
I think some of the problem is that the vehicles are grounded throw the frame and body. Happens to boat trailers that are aluminum and dip them in water with lights plugged in.
Hey Frank,
Thanks for the info.
Either way, whatever it is, FCA needs to do as other manufacturers have done and sell vehicles where the paint doesn't blister on the body panels. If they don't care to, at least prospective buyers should be aware of this when making purchasing decisions.
@@CheaperJeeperTV I totally agree they should let you know.
A rust module would help?
Hey Sound Cube,
With all due respect, my understanding of those is that they are not effective.
Also, if they were, I'm sure the idea would have been shared by now on the forum for those who have been clamouring about this issue for some time now.
Feel free to attach any links that suggest otherwise.
Cheers.
I have a 5 year old American JL and the paint is still like new. I live up north, too. Must be a Canadian thing going on here
No. It’s everywhere. There’s a huge Facebook group with people from all over complaining about it. A ton of people are on there sharing the grief. I’m hoping your Jeep never develops it.
Here is a link to the group: facebook.com/share/g/1ES8evs8dk/?mibextid=K35XfP
Cheers
Wow I just bought a 2018 jl wrangler two days ago used with only 48,000 miles paid cash for it too for 27000 and put a 3 year warranty on it,I've bought 3 brand new cars and a truck in the last 4 years and every car I bought new someone smashed into it causing great damage so I traded in on a new one and I have to put down payment only to get hit again,and again,so now I buy a use vehicle at a decent price and now this issue,always something....
True! Always something. I’m sure you’re gonna have a great time enjoying your jeep however. Cheers.
I have owned now 2 Dodge Challengers. The Challenger has a poor E-coding issue. My 16 shaker, had to have the good completely replaced, and my current 1320 has a rust bubble under the paint. It's a 2021 with just over 6k miles, and no winter driving. It's not just specific to one brand.. it's a FCA thing they've known for years.
Hey chris,
That is one of the premises behind the class action lawsuit I believe, that FCA was aware of the problem and kept it from customers. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers
@@CheaperJeeperTV fortunately they've taken care of the issues without a problem for me. It's the dealerships that I've had issues with. At one, I got a rental for the time my 16 was in the shop.. but the current one I go to doesn't offer that..
Thanks for sharing this! I do have the paint bubbling up as well and went to two Jeep dealers and both said if it is not corrosion I need to pay it to make me feel bad to avoid any work within those 5 years. I do have a Jeep Wrangler from 2020. I contacted FCA and they told me the following:
"I have reached out to Dependable Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and spoke with Body shop Manager [...] regarding the matter. [...]. Alex advised your claim was submitted on your recent visit with them and the claim was rejected due to being outside of the basic (3years or 36/000 miles) warranty. [...]
The corrosion warranty on your Jeep is for 5 years Unlimited miles which covers sheet metal panels that get HOLES from rust or other corrosion.
Alex advised he can go ahead with the repair; however_ , once they get down to the metal if there is no corrosion and the issue is surface rust, the repair would be customer pay as surface rust would fall under the basic warranty which has expired."
So what should I do? I am so disappointed and struggle at the moment with how to proceed. Any advise?
Hi Toni,
I can do a video on your case alone. Did you say they suspect surface “rust”? For starters, on your 2020, the body panels and hinges are aluminum and aluminum doesn’t rust. It corrodes. They should know this and use proper terms to address what is going on. I believe if there are no breaks in the paint then it’s hard to think of this as anything other than the aluminum oxidizing…corroding…which will NOT perforate the panel as long as that Jeep is in the road. That’s one of the main premises behind the Class Action lawsuit in the US launched against FCA in regards to this corrosion issue. Given you are in the US, I’d look the law firm up and get in on that.
This is such a shame.
Good luck.
@@CheaperJeeperTV The last sentence is cop&paste from FCA's customer service: "once they get down to the metal if there is no corrosion and the issue is surface rust, the repair would be customer pay as surface rust would fall under the basic warranty which has expired."
So let me ask the question, maybe I misunderstood. I only see bubbles above the hinges of my rear door (trunk door). Those bubbles, are those considered corrosion? It is so annoying that I will sell the car as soon as I have it back. I'm so annoyed with Jeep and those issues no one is really interested in fixing :(
I'm sorry you're experiencing the same issue as many others who have posted here, in forums and in FaceBook groups. I just don't see how it can be "any" kind of rust, as aluminum doesn't rust. You need iron(Fe) as found in steel panels to get rust.
One might think that when the Jeep gets fixed, that is the best time to sell it for a decent resale value.
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@@tobisreallifeskillswithtobi aluminum corrosion is not surface rust so you might have a shot.