This Mass Shaman Strategy is Absolutely Insane! - WC3

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  • Опубліковано 8 лис 2024

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  • @IAmOHMSS
    @IAmOHMSS Місяць тому +59

    "BATriders have a lot of nightime vision", gotta love the biological attention to detail by old Blizzard

  • @HejiNthe2nd
    @HejiNthe2nd Місяць тому +91

    i highly appreciate your insight after the game (unlike that one twitch dude, who wants you to start the next match). THX a lot, this game was awesome

    • @aihatsuchannel4013
      @aihatsuchannel4013 Місяць тому

      I just wonder, who?

    • @AG_247
      @AG_247 Місяць тому

      ​@@aihatsuchannel4013at 25:37

    • @TofuofLight
      @TofuofLight Місяць тому

      @@aihatsuchannel4013 I think it was just a random twitch viewer that wanted grubby to start a new game asap.

  • @PerennialSash
    @PerennialSash Місяць тому +46

    The post-game analysis was terrific

  • @gorgeouszan
    @gorgeouszan Місяць тому +11

    For everyone that keeps asking "Why does Grubby always kill the critters?" 4:03 is your answer

  • @axlfrhalo
    @axlfrhalo Місяць тому +22

    i really loved the breakdown at the end of the tactic, so intricate

  • @LimitedSource21
    @LimitedSource21 Місяць тому +9

    I have been playing Warcraft 3 since 2005ish since i was a teenager and i was never really good at the game. But watching you making it look so easy and satisfying is just a joy to watch, thanks for all the uploads Grubby!

  • @howimade3309
    @howimade3309 Місяць тому +17

    build a tiny hall near their base then attack their expo ( leave 3 zappers away from their sight) , wait for them to come save it then quickly port over to the tiny hall and kill it....once they walk over to save their main use the 3 zappers on their expo lol. its flawless.

    • @cykeok3525
      @cykeok3525 Місяць тому +5

      A somewhat expensive strategy, even if an effective one :O

    • @TaylorDanson
      @TaylorDanson Місяць тому +3

      Or do the reverse!

  • @yanimustapha4506
    @yanimustapha4506 Місяць тому +1

    Haven't played Warcraft 3 since my teenage years. Recently found your channel and oh wow made me want to play again. Great content and great post analysis subscribed. I've got a lot of videos to binge.

  • @nikosgavrilidi4923
    @nikosgavrilidi4923 Місяць тому +9

    For me bloodlust is the most iconic spell in warcraft universe!

  • @QuietIntroduction
    @QuietIntroduction Місяць тому +5

    When I started playing WC3 in 2002, mass shaman / docs were absolute meta in this mu. And ft ofc.

    • @TofuofLight
      @TofuofLight Місяць тому +2

      ROC casters were broken af. Blizzard super nerfed casters in FT and made more magic immune units to counter them

    • @SpaghettiNoob
      @SpaghettiNoob Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, I remember even in the demo that used to still be up, people would Smurf and go. I loved the casters then

  • @Shnewk2
    @Shnewk2 Місяць тому +1

    That was fun to watch! You had this opponent on the edge of their seat the whole game :) Awesome

  • @illfate757
    @illfate757 Місяць тому +2

    This strategy is not for the weak. Very cool and micro intensive. I always hated going against Mass talons even as far back as in RoC with Mass Talon / Mass AoWs lol

    • @LivingLyfelikeaMuffin
      @LivingLyfelikeaMuffin Місяць тому

      It's because he's not moon. The guy is not even microing his talons that are affected with lightning shield. Normally, you would use cyclone on the blademaster and not really anything else. This strategy is really hard to use.

  • @Milos111Zivkov
    @Milos111Zivkov Місяць тому

    The chaos around the creeping was beautiful

  • @malpuro
    @malpuro Місяць тому

    Grubby's tip on how not to get stressed out is really resonating with my own anxiousness at work

  • @information_handle
    @information_handle Місяць тому +1

    5:57 I did the exact same sound 😂

  • @IAmOHMSS
    @IAmOHMSS Місяць тому

    Great debriefing! Masterful breakdown!

  • @lefter700
    @lefter700 Місяць тому +1

    The looked quite nice overall, but the DR addition realy made it awesome.❤
    WP!

  • @jaymxu
    @jaymxu Місяць тому

    This would work in competition for sure, but as you know, you will really have to be careful about losing a single unit, momentum is also key.

  • @ambion19
    @ambion19 Місяць тому

    That sheep at her kill was great.
    Also, BL bat base harass is killer, 2 bats would get through a moonwell fast

  • @Psihodelia
    @Psihodelia Місяць тому

    The tactic explanation part was just insane

  • @cloackedsword8713
    @cloackedsword8713 Місяць тому

    whenever grubbys yaw opens in the fever of battle i see golden ratios all over the place

  • @deviancepurplehaze6045
    @deviancepurplehaze6045 Місяць тому

    1:50 Best advice of my day!

  • @andrewvader1955
    @andrewvader1955 Місяць тому

    Lightning shield on the Talen's once the hero teleports sounds dirty! bc they are all closured together so closely most would die to fast to save.

  • @lumek4513
    @lumek4513 Місяць тому +3

    4:40 - 100g in reveals for that one poison murloc is defeinitely worth

  • @TheSpyroMiner
    @TheSpyroMiner Місяць тому +1

    epic sheep @4:03

  • @CocacolaBoy83
    @CocacolaBoy83 Місяць тому

    And it's true it's a particular strategy, but with the heroes, especially the blademaster and the shamans I noticed that you always manage to kill some units, so you're always leading the game even if you lose a little money.
    IMO it's a good tactic if well organized, for example plunder ability work?
    the orcs are made to attack🤣

  • @plops993
    @plops993 Місяць тому

    Back when casters were super OP, I used to love massing shaman and witch doctors as orc and just spamming spells

  • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
    @Lucius_Chiaraviglio Місяць тому

    Now I want to see more testing of this strategy.

  • @den.utarbaev
    @den.utarbaev Місяць тому

    This is just beautiful.

  • @廖浩宇-m2r
    @廖浩宇-m2r Місяць тому

    man that mass storm shields on talons feels like psionic storm on hydralisks in sc2 lol

  • @JB-jm6lo
    @JB-jm6lo Місяць тому

    Lighting shield forcing him to break formations made those dotts easy to pick off

  • @Vesdus
    @Vesdus Місяць тому +2

    Dark Ranger was an insane pick. It absolutely carried. It held the team together from the point it was bought until the end of the game.
    Very cool army build.

  • @thijsjong
    @thijsjong Місяць тому

    Imakes sence thatbatriders have good vision at night. Tho7gh it is more likelyecho location.
    I love that real ife lor3 ties into a strategy.

  • @acalisal
    @acalisal Місяць тому

    I love seeing orc caster games and trying to understand if/when they are viable.

  • @heyimvinny11
    @heyimvinny11 Місяць тому

    No tp grub always lol your play style would make my heart rate shoot sky high haha but also two gloves, two circlets plus lust is like bm on steroids

  • @zmeyagosho
    @zmeyagosho Місяць тому

    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!! LUST FOR THE LUST THRONE!!!!

  • @tannersharp643
    @tannersharp643 Місяць тому

    i never realized how clunky the pathing is in this until i played it 20 years later its so frustrating

  • @ranjandas2636
    @ranjandas2636 Місяць тому

    Thnx Grubby for the game..🎉❤

  • @nicooo284
    @nicooo284 Місяць тому

    😮nice tech. Hunter nice player😎

  • @loralada555
    @loralada555 Місяць тому

    What is your favorite Color Grubby in WC3 ? And which Color for which Race? :)

  • @genji7572
    @genji7572 Місяць тому

    LEZZ GOO NEW VID🎉🎉

  • @elpollolocoman119
    @elpollolocoman119 Місяць тому +2

    Dark Ranger third was genius.

  • @znojnyj
    @znojnyj Місяць тому +1

    What if your master turns out to be a baiter

  • @tomasshestakov1379
    @tomasshestakov1379 Місяць тому

    Would it work vs mass driads?

  • @morscoronam3779
    @morscoronam3779 Місяць тому

    For some reason I didn't think silencing wisps would do anything.

  • @pineda12handy-keithdaniell33
    @pineda12handy-keithdaniell33 Місяць тому

    I’m just curious can you beat your enemy without heroes

  • @RNGenius725
    @RNGenius725 Місяць тому

    This guy is so good, you should go pro.

  • @kevinking596
    @kevinking596 Місяць тому

    Does silence stop wisps from detonate?

  • @atomisten
    @atomisten Місяць тому

    cool build. too bad it doesn't work high level cuz night elf imba.

  • @fragmentsofknowledge2142
    @fragmentsofknowledge2142 Місяць тому

    we can find W3 TFT original version ? or we need to buy the reforged version to play it with old graphics ?

    • @perasculac
      @perasculac Місяць тому +1

      you must buy reforged, then in the game you can choose which graphics you want

    • @EjbiRTS
      @EjbiRTS Місяць тому

      You can also buy a cd key online for 13-15eu.

  • @bobmarlej9106
    @bobmarlej9106 Місяць тому +2

    have you ever done mercenary units & heroes only challenge

    • @cathulionetharn5139
      @cathulionetharn5139 Місяць тому +1

      he did heroes only so adding mercenaries would actually be slightly easier

    • @z3yjIn
      @z3yjIn Місяць тому +1

      he did one where he used banshees to control all big camps and one where he was undead killing big camps put them in meat waegon and than rezz them in enemy base with Arthas lv l6

    • @bobmarlej9106
      @bobmarlej9106 Місяць тому +1

      thanks i will look it up guys, seems fun

    • @ambion19
      @ambion19 Місяць тому +2

      He also did one where he possessed the camps and pretended they were normal, then made them run away when the enemy came

  • @thatrabbit6503
    @thatrabbit6503 Місяць тому

    One of the reasons i stopped playing talons even in 1.26

  • @ismaelbarroso8748
    @ismaelbarroso8748 Місяць тому

    Where stream Grubby ? I wanna watch

  • @freyness
    @freyness Місяць тому

    Why does his colors change from purple to blue?

  • @TheSpyroMiner
    @TheSpyroMiner Місяць тому

    afterall its not about APM when it really is apm heavy what grubby is doing

  • @joedalton155
    @joedalton155 Місяць тому +1

    RARARAAA

  • @TheSpyroMiner
    @TheSpyroMiner Місяць тому

    its all about the start isnt it

  • @TheSASNemikarXII
    @TheSASNemikarXII Місяць тому

    HMM cant you put all gold peons on group 1 and spam return resourses? that might be the way to get almost 100% on 4 peons.

    • @Dancyspartan
      @Dancyspartan Місяць тому +1

      Boot the game up and try

    • @cykeok3525
      @cykeok3525 Місяць тому

      The upper limiting factor ("100%") of a gold mine for Orc Peons and Human Peasants is the time the worker must spend inside the mine before he comes out with a bag of gold.
      To fully utilize a gold mine, you must reach this limiting factor with enough workers, such that there is a worker ready to enter as soon as the previous worker exits with a bag of gold. At minimum distance for a Great Hall/Town Hall from the mine, you need 5 workers.
      Meanwhile at greater Hall distances (long distance mining) you need more workers to fully utilize the mine due to increased travel time for each worker, as a larger percentage of their full cycle is spent walking versus being inside the mine.
      And, of course, with more than 5 workers at minimum Hall distance, you'll simply have workers piling up outside waiting for the guy inside to finish mining and come out.
      The point is, 4 Peons simply cannot fully utilize the gold mine, even at minimum Great Hall distance. There will be gaps in time where the gold mine is empty and idle. It has nothing to do with mining AI or player control.
      If that didn't make sense, listen to @Dancyspartan. Go try it.

  • @ryanlee5336
    @ryanlee5336 Місяць тому

    talons need a buff

  • @MulroePhoto
    @MulroePhoto Місяць тому

    book of the dead skeletons don't expire??

  • @SamSam-mn7nu
    @SamSam-mn7nu Місяць тому

    Hello cop

  • @Koala-ez8lj
    @Koala-ez8lj Місяць тому +1

    4:00 Hold on! I would like to think I'm not so newbie to warcraft mechanics and I always knew that invisible creep camps always wake up and attack you when you go close even at night. Am I wrong?

    • @Koala-ez8lj
      @Koala-ez8lj Місяць тому +2

      Or is it because they always have other creeps in their camp that wake them up for them like a rock golem? Because I'm sure that the bandits that are invisible in some maps don't have rock golems

  • @S1nwar
    @S1nwar Місяць тому

    mass caster? is this 2002 again?

  • @jonathandunbar7721
    @jonathandunbar7721 Місяць тому

    gooooooooooooo

  • @TheSpyroMiner
    @TheSpyroMiner Місяць тому

    gggggggggggggg awesome

  • @yaabz680
    @yaabz680 Місяць тому

    Second :(

  • @Shnewk2
    @Shnewk2 Місяць тому

    First!

  • @lukesinclair6217
    @lukesinclair6217 Місяць тому

    why is smurfing so accepted in the wc3 community? Grubs often plays on alts to do ridiculous strats far below his mmr. In this vid he admits that he couldn't implement his idea because bnet was down which would place him against a lower level player...

    • @nikolakosic1703
      @nikolakosic1703 Місяць тому

      I think that when he "smurfs" he plays "shitty", fun strats that give the opponent fair chance of winning. It's not a tryhard destruction of lower level oppos.

    • @serioussilliness2064
      @serioussilliness2064 Місяць тому

      his mmr on that case is lower since his skill is more limited by the challenge. He essentially has to make suboptimal decisions, ergo playing at a lower skill level.

    • @lukesinclair6217
      @lukesinclair6217 Місяць тому

      @@serioussilliness2064 Yeah but as soon as he starts losing he 'adapts' the strat.

    • @lukesinclair6217
      @lukesinclair6217 Місяць тому

      @@serioussilliness2064 copied from below - Yeah but as soon as he starts losing he 'adapts' the strat.

  • @Cannabeknown
    @Cannabeknown Місяць тому

    So what race relies on its shop the most?

  • @serioussilliness2064
    @serioussilliness2064 Місяць тому

    .,.